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Angela Kinsey
When it comes to dog food, you kind of always feel like you have to choose. You have to have food that's fresh and healthy, or do you have food that's easy to store and serve, but it doesn't always feel like it's both?
Jenna Fischer
That's where Sundaze comes in. Sundaze was founded by veterinarian and mom, Dr. Tori Waxman, who was tired of seeing those quote unquote premium dog foods full of fillers and synthetic junk. So she created Sundays. But you don't have to put it in the refrigerator.
Angela Kinsey
No, because they're air dried and it's real food made in a human grade kitchen.
Jenna Fischer
There's no weird ingredients, no fillers. And the best part, you just scoop it and serve.
Angela Kinsey
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Jenna Fischer
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Angela Kinsey
So I've decided something. I want to start wearing scrubs, like in my everyday life.
Jenna Fischer
First off, love this for you. Secondly, please explain.
Angela Kinsey
All right, well, not just any scrubs. Specifically figs. It seems like every Dr. Derm pediatrician I meet with is wearing figs. And it shows. The fit, the colors, the comfort. It's all on point. I want in.
Jenna Fischer
Okay, I see the vision. Figs truly are as cute as they are functional. Soft, stretchy, and breathable. Yet durable enough for long back to back shifts.
Angela Kinsey
Right? Or in my case, grabbing a quick coffee or a grocery run. Sky's the limit, really.
Jenna Fischer
So true. They also come in so many fun colors and flattering styles. You could have a different look every day of the week.
Angela Kinsey
You know I would. And did I mention they also have loungewear, accessories, and even a collab with new balance on comfortable footwear?
Jenna Fischer
No, but I'm glad you did. Figs really does think of everything, don't they?
Angela Kinsey
They sure do. So if you work in healthcare, know someone who does or just want to rock some seriously comfy essentials, head to wearfigs.com right now and use code FIGSRX for 15% off your first order. That's wherefigs.com code figsrx.
Jenna Fischer
I'm Jenna Fisher.
Angela Kinsey
And I'm Angela Kinsey.
Jenna Fischer
We were on the office together and we're best friends and now we're doing the Ultimate Office lovers podcast just for you.
Angela Kinsey
Each week we will dive deeper into the world of the Office with exclusive interviews, behind the scenes details, and lots of BFF stories.
Jenna Fischer
We're the Office Lady 6.0. Hello.
Angela Kinsey
Hey there.
Jenna Fischer
I need an update. A late to the party update. We haven't discussed if anyone finished Heated Rivalry. If Sam started Heated Rivalry.
Sam
I'm one episode in.
Angela Kinsey
One episode in.
Sam
It is incredible. I see the allure. Sorry I'm late.
Angela Kinsey
Oh, well, also, you guys, really quickly, we have a little bit of an Earwolf family reunion. Jordan is here. Our dear Jordan Duffy. Jordan, are you watching Heated Rivalry?
Jenna Fischer
Oh, I have seen it and I
Angela Kinsey
watch it over and over again.
Jenna Fischer
Jordan, my friend who recommended it to me has watched it three times.
Angela Kinsey
Oh, wow.
Jenna Fischer
I watched it like three to five times. It's insane. It's that good. I really love it. I finished it.
Angela Kinsey
I know you did because we were together on our company retreat. You guys, I have to tell you, the next morning I'm like, how'd you sleep? Jenna was like, I was just gonna finish one episode. I had like 20 minutes left, and then it rolled over into the next one. And then all of a sudden you watched til midnight.
Jenna Fischer
I stayed up till midnight because you cannot watch five and six broken up.
Angela Kinsey
You can't. Don't try. I'm not there yet.
Jenna Fischer
When it's time, make sure you leave yourself room to watch both of these episodes. Guys, it started off kind of just like super sexy time, but it ends, like, deeply moving. Am I Right, Jordan? 100%. You're right. Dear God.
Angela Kinsey
All right, I gotta catch up. Matt, how's it for you? Where are you at?
Matt
Well, I got caught up with another late to the party sexy time thing. So I'm a bit on hold with Heated Rivalry, but I started watching Industry.
Angela Kinsey
Oh, I don't know. It.
Jenna Fischer
It's sexy.
Matt
It's also super sexy time in a different way, but some of the same ways as Heated Rivalry. So I got a little caught up with that.
Angela Kinsey
I don't know anything about industry.
Matt
It's about bankers in London.
Angela Kinsey
Sounds hot. Sounds.
Matt
It's very good. I recommend it.
Angela Kinsey
All right, well, there's our late to the party. Why don't we kick off this episode? Lady, today's episode is really fun. We're gonna give you some office news. We're gonna share a little bit about this blackmail webisode featuring Creed Bratton. And of course, we've got some chit chats. Why don't we start with the chit chat?
Jenna Fischer
All right, this One's coming from Carolyn M. In Vermont.
Carolyn M.
Hi, office ladies. This is Carolyn from Vermont. I don't know what cold and flu season has been like in California, but in Vermont, it's been the pits. Whenever we're sick, I like to make soup. I had the pleasure of interviewing Angela and Josh about their cookbook, and the first recipe that I made was the Italian wedding soup that's in the book. I know Angela made that for Josh when he was sick when they were first dating, and now it's our go to recipe when my family is sick. So I was wondering what your go to soup recipe is when you're sick.
Angela Kinsey
I just love this question. I didn't pick it, you guys. I promise. Jenna picked this one, but I did love it. And here's the funny thing. I made Josh this soup, you guys. I destroyed my kitchen because I didn't know how to cook at all at the time, and I had no idea how many steps and how many ingredients. And so my kitchen was a hot mess. But I show up to Josh's apartment with this big pot of soup, and he says that was the moment. He was like, oh, my gosh, I have to marry this woman. She's going to make me soup for the rest of my life. And of course, he is the cook of the family. But I loved this question. Jenna, you. You love soup. Is there one that's your go to?
Jenna Fischer
Well, I have a go to soup, but it's different than the soup I like to eat when I'm sick.
Angela Kinsey
Oh, okay.
Jenna Fischer
So when I'm sick, I just want a chicken noodle.
Angela Kinsey
Yeah.
Jenna Fischer
You know, Although Josh made me some delicious kind of a spin on a chicken noodle that was kind of a lemony chicken orzo that you guys gave me when I was doing chemo.
Angela Kinsey
That's right.
Jenna Fischer
Oh, I loved that. That was great. But my favorite soup to make is a soup that I made up myself.
Angela Kinsey
Isn't that so rewarding?
Jenna Fischer
Yeah.
Angela Kinsey
When you can make soup just like on your own.
Jenna Fischer
Well, I listened to this podcast by Kendra Adachi where she basically says, you can make soup without a recipe, and I'm gonna tell you how. Now, you wouldn't think that you could learn how to make soup without a recipe by listening to a 15 minute podcast, but you can, and I did. She explains, like, pick your veggies, pick your protein, pick your broth, and I'm gonna tell you what order to put it in. Pick your aromatics. Here's how you make soup. And she's like, and you can just Change it up whenever you want. You don't need a recipe. She's so right. So I use a turkey sausage. I use kale, spinach, celery, carrots, onions, garlic, some oregano, a little basil, and a pinch of red pepper flakes. I'll tell you what I don't put in my soup, though.
Angela Kinsey
What?
Jenna Fischer
Bay leaves. Do you remember those?
Angela Kinsey
Yeah. Yeah. Because I've made some soups where you add them at the end, you kind of fold them into the soup at the end, you don't like it.
Jenna Fischer
My mom would always make this veggie soup when I was a kid. And you're supposed to put them in and then you leave them in for, like, a long period of time, I think. And then before you serve the soup, you're supposed to take them out because they're not edible.
Angela Kinsey
No.
Jenna Fischer
Yeah, you take them out.
Angela Kinsey
You take them out. They're just for soaking and the flavor.
Jenna Fischer
Yeah, right. But my mom would always forget to take em out. Oh. So then you'd go to take a bite of your soup, and inevitably someone would end up with the bay leaf, and you'd have to, like, fish it out of your mouth.
Angela Kinsey
This is like finding, like, the baby Jesus in a king cake a little bit. Okay, but. So maybe you don't mind the flavor of bay leaf. Maybe you just don't want to eat it.
Jenna Fischer
Well, I got curious about bay leaves when I knew we were going to have to answer this question, because I was like, what are they and what do they taste like? Because I haven't missed them. So I looked it up, and it says, bay leaves are from the bay laurel tree, and they add aromatic tones to the soup and that the flavor is kind of like herbal tea or a minty clove. And by the way, there are a gazillion Reddit threads and articles dedicated to the question, do you really need a bay leaf in your soup? It's like a whole thing in the soup community.
Angela Kinsey
That's the Internet I'm here for.
Jenna Fischer
Yeah, I read tons of articles about it.
Angela Kinsey
Yeah, well, I don't mind it, but, Sam, anyone else have a soup that they like?
Sam
Yeah, when I'm sick, I like Campbell's bean soup and sprite and saltines. That's the perfect meal.
Angela Kinsey
Do you crush up the saltines in the soup? You don't? Oh, I love that.
Jenna Fischer
Do you dip them?
Sam
Nope.
Angela Kinsey
Oh, on the side. Sam.
Sam
I know, I'm wild.
Angela Kinsey
Gosh, I love a salty cracker crushed up in a soup.
Jenna Fischer
Crushed in it.
Angela Kinsey
Well, you know, you crack It. And I don't want to stick the whole square in my soup. I break it up.
Jenna Fischer
I only like those little oyster round things.
Angela Kinsey
Oh, I love those. In a clam chowder, I get so excited if I'm at dinner with someone and they get clam chowder and they don't want those. I'm like, you gonna eat? Cause pass them over here.
Jenna Fischer
Those are great.
Angela Kinsey
Great, Jordan.
Jenna Fischer
I also like a chicken noodle, but in mixture. I do crunch up the crackers and put them in because they, like, thicken up.
Angela Kinsey
Yes, they do, Jordan. Yes, they do. I see you, Matt.
Jenna Fischer
You wanna weigh in on the soups?
Matt
I do. I'm a big Mexican soup guy, so pozole is my go to when sick. I make it with chicken. Do you all familiar with pozole?
Angela Kinsey
No.
Jenna Fischer
Is it spicy?
Matt
Maybe a little bit, but it's with, like, tomatillos and meat. It's usually with pork, but I make it with chicken. And then you put hominy in, which is like the puffed corn, which is rare but really featured in this dish. And it just. It's amazing. It's like a soup that has that magic in it.
Angela Kinsey
Mm.
Jenna Fischer
That sounds great.
Angela Kinsey
My favorite is the Josh's chicken lemon orzo soup. So you know what, guys? I'm going to share in our stories. Everyone send me their link for their soups. And anyone listening who loves a soup, it'll be in our insta stories. And I'll share Kendra's episode where she talks about soup.
Jenna Fischer
Yeah, because then you can make any soup you want. That's right. All right, well, that was fun. Why don't we take a break, and then when we get back, we're going to discuss some office news and blackmail.
Carolyn M.
Mm.
Angela Kinsey
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Jenna Fischer
You know, a friend of mine who is having a baby, I got her crib from Wayfair, and I went over and I saw it, and it's absolutely gorgeous.
Angela Kinsey
That's such a great gift. Another thing I like is that you can check out the reviews for the different things you want to purchase. There was over 3,000 comments about this one closet system I got, so I really like that part of their website.
Jenna Fischer
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Angela Kinsey
Yes, Dave Rogers has finished them.
Jenna Fischer
He's finished Superfans of the whole series.
Angela Kinsey
Bless his heart. That was a lot of work. That was a lot of work.
Jenna Fischer
I know. He said he spent his whole summer on it.
Angela Kinsey
Yeah. Well, I want to tell you guys how to find them because Dave worked so hard and he did a fantastic job. They're over on Peacock, but I want to tell you how they're labeled. They made this whole graphic. It says the Office Superfan episodes and then in like huge letters it says complete collection.
Jenna Fischer
Because they're done.
Angela Kinsey
Because they're done Mm.
Jenna Fischer
Well, Dave sent me a list of highlights of the new stuff they added, and it's pretty great. I'm gonna just tell you a few. In episode Here Comes Trouble, Andy sings his signature song, faith, at the end. Yeah. So you can see that in the Target, they added back that deleted scene of Thanksgiving at the office. Oh, wow.
Angela Kinsey
So officially, there is an office Thanksgiving moment now.
Jenna Fischer
There is. He said there's also some great ads with Jim and Phyllis and Stanley going to lunch, being at the restaurant, and there's a lot more of Angela and Trevor talking in the van. He said there's also a new talking head from Pam where she talks about taking risks and wakeboarding, which I love.
Angela Kinsey
He said, I want to see that.
Jenna Fischer
I know. I don't even remember doing a talking head about wakeboarding.
Angela Kinsey
Pam, Wakeboard.
Jenna Fischer
Well, I don't know. I haven't gone in to look at the details.
Angela Kinsey
I won't dig into it.
Jenna Fischer
Okay. Also, in episode 12, there is a new cold open that is a deleted scene where everyone is absorbed in their phones. I remember shooting that.
Angela Kinsey
I do, too.
Jenna Fischer
And I know they wrote that because we all used to come to set around this time, and we were all absorbed in our phones, and I felt like it was a little, like, subtle.
Angela Kinsey
Like a dig.
Jenna Fischer
Yeah, like they were making fun of us.
Angela Kinsey
Well, come on. We're old. We all, like, over one summer, switched from flip phones to BlackBerry, and then
Jenna Fischer
we finally got those, like, the very first version of a smartphone.
Angela Kinsey
Yes. And we were like little kids.
Jenna Fischer
I was BlackBerry for a long time.
Angela Kinsey
Same.
Jenna Fischer
I was very resistant to changing because I liked that the keys actually clicked.
Angela Kinsey
Me, too. Like, you felt the resistance when you touched them.
Jenna Fischer
I still hate the, like, typing on my iPhone.
Angela Kinsey
Do you have the setting where it clicks so you hear it?
Jenna Fischer
No.
Angela Kinsey
No.
Jenna Fischer
Do you?
Angela Kinsey
I used to, but it drove everyone crazy around me. But I think it's because it's a holdover from the BlackBerry. I liked the little click, the little sound.
Jenna Fischer
So my problem is two things. When I go to hit the letter N, sometimes I hit the space bar instead, and it bothers me. Or sometimes when I mean to hit the space bar, I accidentally hit the period, and that really messes me up because when I'm trying to Google something or search for something, if I put a period instead of a space, it thinks I want to go to a website, and then it tells me that you're making no sense, lady.
Angela Kinsey
Yeah.
Jenna Fischer
So I still don't like it. I wish the period was somewhere else. I don't know.
Angela Kinsey
Can y' all move the period.
Jenna Fischer
I'd appreciate. How about that for an update that I actually want? You know what update I didn't need is making my screen look like glass. Oh, yeah, I don't want to look at glass.
Angela Kinsey
I also don't like the photo update, like where your photos are kept. It's all different. I don't like it. Oh, Sam, Jordan are nodding. They're nodding. What's happening?
Sam
No, I was nodding with furious agreement.
Jenna Fischer
No, thank you.
Sam
My phone's. I hate it now.
Angela Kinsey
Yeah, I hate it. Yeah, I do remember I have such a strong visual lady of being on set with you and we would want to like, oh, should we answer this email or something? Like, maybe we needed to respond to something and you'd be like, I'll do it. And you are the fastest thumb typer in the world.
Jenna Fischer
Wow.
Angela Kinsey
You just won that award. There's your Dundee.
Jenna Fischer
Okay, I have a few more things to share about the Superfan episodes. Dave said episode Vandalism has a ton of great ads throughout, especially with Pam, Dwight and Clark in the warehouse. He said there is also just more Nate overall, including an ad lib that led to the famous blooper. Frank did it. Did it.
Angela Kinsey
Yeah.
Jenna Fischer
Here is a really good one, though. Episode 17, more Bob Odenkirk.
Angela Kinsey
Really?
Jenna Fischer
He said there's extra scenes of me and Bob and they're really great. And finally, he said the finale has a lot more cool moments, including just some Easter eggs for us of other people who were part of the show. And he said it's really fun to see and maybe fans will also appreciate them, especially now that they know, like, a lot of people's names.
Angela Kinsey
Yeah.
Jenna Fischer
And what their jobs were. Now you can put a face to the name Dave.
Angela Kinsey
I love this list. It's making me all nostalgic. I know, to, like, go back and rewatch. Well, thank you, Dave Rogers, for all of the time you put into these Superfan episodes. I really now have a few I want to go back and watch.
Jenna Fischer
For sure. I have to watch Andy sing Faith. Yeah, that's my number one, I think. All right, well, now we have some news from our Office universe. This Friday on March 20, Lee Eisenberg and Gene Stupnitsky's new show is coming out. You remember these guys? They wrote on the Office for many, many years. They wrote Dinner Party.
Angela Kinsey
They wrote Dinner Party. They also played Leo and Gino.
Jenna Fischer
Yes. They've been on the podcast. Well, you might remember a few years ago, they had that amazing show, Jury Duty. It was a fake documentary About a trial where everybody was an actor except one person was real.
Angela Kinsey
Right. And he wasn't in on it. Everyone else was in on it. He thought it was a real trial happening.
Jenna Fischer
Yes, it was amazing.
Angela Kinsey
Critically acclaimed.
Jenna Fischer
Well, they have a season two and a new concept and it is absolutely brilliant.
Angela Kinsey
It's brilliant. Lee sent Jen and I the trailer and it is hilarious. I'm already hooked.
Jenna Fischer
It's called Company Retreat and the new premise is that cameras are following this newly hired employee at a small business and shortly after he gets hired, the whole company is going to go on a company retreat.
Angela Kinsey
Yes.
Jenna Fischer
And everyone at the business is an actor except for the new employee. You guys, I wrote Lee and I was like, this is brilliant. I feel like this is what it would be like if you could go be transported into an episode of the Office.
Angela Kinsey
Exactly. Like if you were the new employee and you had to go to beach games.
Jenna Fischer
Yes, exactly.
Angela Kinsey
And that's like part of your first week of work.
Jenna Fischer
But one of the brilliant things about it is the owner of the business is about to turn the business over to his son. And the son is just like full
Angela Kinsey
hot Nepo, baby, hot mess.
Jenna Fischer
Hilarious.
Angela Kinsey
But then as the company retreat unfolds, you see all the different personalities of the co workers because they have to do these ridiculous exercises like walk on the hot coals. That type of stuff, right?
Jenna Fischer
Yes.
Angela Kinsey
Not to go back to Beach Games, but I couldn't help but think of that episode as I watch the trailer.
Jenna Fischer
I'm sure it's gonna be amazing. Jury duty was amazing.
Angela Kinsey
No, it's gonna be a big hit. I can't wait to watch it.
Jenna Fischer
So we just wanna wish them congratulations, everybody. You can check it out. The first three episodes debut this Friday, March 20th on Prime Video.
Angela Kinsey
Congrats, Lee and Jean. We love you guys. Well, not on the same level, but Jenna and I actually just had our very own company retreat.
Jenna Fischer
We did. It was a two person company retreat.
Angela Kinsey
It was just me and Jenna. We went to a hotel about, I don't know, like 40min. And we brought our laptops and we just worked and worked. Office ladies. And it was so fun because we also have BFF time mixed in with all that. And we have decided a bunch of fun stuff. But what I want to share today, which is we want to really start hearing from you guys during our second drinks. You know, so many of you write in and you will tell us a favorite moment, a favorite scene, and we thought, what a better way to feature those than in our second drinks. We're going to Call them fan favorite moment. We'll put up some folders as our episodes roll out. Please write in and tell us your favorite scene from these upcoming episodes. So be on the lookout. We're gonna give you prompts in our instastories for whatever episodes are coming out. But we would love to hear your favorite scenes and we're gonna talk about em.
Jenna Fischer
You know, lady, we've just been incorporating all these ways that we get to hear from people now with the fan chitchats and the around the towns and I really like it. I feel like it was really inspired from your trip to the Office convention when we got to hear all the audio from people. And when I was recording people at the stage door in Chicago and we talked about it, we were like, we like this.
Angela Kinsey
Yes. And then I think the other thing that happened is we found out that we could get audio clips on our website.
Jenna Fischer
Yes. That you can upload them.
Angela Kinsey
Yeah, that was a game changer. Shout out to Squarespace. Sorry it took us so long, you guys to get caught up with that technology, but we really love hearing from you and can't wait to hear your favorite moments from upcoming second drinks.
Jenna Fischer
We also have a couple of social media updates for you. First of all, I want you to know that I have updated our links in bio Way to go on Instagram. Angela, you handle all the posting, but my job is the links in bio, so I'm going to do better. Everybody, these links will be more extensive and take you places you want to go. So I just want to put that out there.
Angela Kinsey
Very proud of you.
Jenna Fischer
Thank you.
Angela Kinsey
Very proud of you. And the other thing we're excited to share with you is that we have partnered again with cartoon and radio. You know, they do amazing animation of podcasts and they are going to do the first six episodes from season one of our rewatch of the Office and they're going to do sort of like the highlights of things that we talked about. And they're so fun. They're up on our YouTube page, our Office Ladies YouTube page. And you can watch them and we hope you like them.
Jenna Fischer
Yeah. The cool thing about it is that we were able to add our personal photos. So it's like a 10 minute highlight of each episode. But like for example, in the pilot, we flash up all of our personal photos from the pilot and Angela, I have to share something. So when we were looking for what to share visually from Diversity Day, we talk a little bit about like how great the script was and how I still have my script. And so I Thought, oh, I know. I'll take a picture of my script from Diversity Day so we can flash it up in this video.
Angela Kinsey
Right.
Jenna Fischer
So I went digging for it. And first of all, my script from Diversity Day is on blue paper.
Angela Kinsey
Oh, so that was the second version.
Jenna Fischer
Yes. I was gonna explain. That's how they would distinguish the different drafts of a script. So first they would give it to us on white paper, and then they would either give you a whole new printout on blue paper, or if there were just a few changes, they'd just give you blue pages.
Angela Kinsey
Right.
Jenna Fischer
And then it was your job to go in and take out the white page and put in the blue page for the rewrite. And then the third draft would be pink pages. And then I think it was like yellow, green. And then I feel like it went back to white.
Angela Kinsey
No, I think every once in a while we got to orange. But that was very rare. Yeah, and those were usually loose. They weren't the whole script.
Jenna Fischer
But sometimes by the end of the week, you'd have, like, this multicolored script. Well, anyway, this script was all blue. So I guess they did one big rewrite and they printed it out on blue. I don't have any other color pages. However, at the very end of my script, I have five white pages.
Angela Kinsey
You guys, I want you to know Jenna brought her script in. She's holding it. I'm looking at it. And what did you write on the front of it? Did you write Pam?
Jenna Fischer
Pam. I wrote Pam.
Angela Kinsey
Everyone knows that's your script. That's so cute.
Jenna Fischer
Well, that was the thing back then. Like, if you didn't put your name on it, anyone might pick it up.
Angela Kinsey
It's true.
Jenna Fischer
Well, I was like, what are the white pages at the end? Do you know what it is, lady?
Angela Kinsey
No, what is it?
Jenna Fischer
It's my Pam document. I printed it out, I three hole punched it, and I attached it to the back of my script. And I remember I did that for season of the Office.
Angela Kinsey
Lady. Your theater nerd heart, I know, is
Jenna Fischer
so wonderful, and I'm so excited. I found this because I couldn't find it on my computer. So this is now the only copy I have is this hard copy that I printed and attached to the back of my Diversity Day script. And I have to read you something from it.
Angela Kinsey
I wanna hear all of it.
Jenna Fischer
I mean, I wish I had this for all about Pam Beasley, but here we go. I have this section where I'm really trying to figure out Pam and Roy's relationship. And so I wrote this Prompt. What was your biggest fight? I wrote our biggest fight ever was the time that I told him that if I found out that he committed a murder, that I would turn him into the police, like, if they didn't know who did it and he wasn't planning to turn himself in. He got really, really mad and said that families are supposed to protect each other. And I said, yeah, but not from murder.
Angela Kinsey
He.
Jenna Fischer
What if he was really, really sorry and I could tell that he would never murder someone again? I don't know. I still think I'd probably turn him in.
Angela Kinsey
That's amazing. Yeah, that's amazing. And it's such, like, one of those hypothetical bullshit things that you get in a fight about because the real things aren't working.
Jenna Fischer
Yeah.
Angela Kinsey
So you don't talk about the real things, and then you have all of this stuff about a hypothetical.
Jenna Fischer
Well, I think it kind of touched on a type of disconnect in their, like, fundamental values.
Angela Kinsey
Mm.
Jenna Fischer
You know?
Angela Kinsey
Yeah.
Jenna Fischer
Like, Roy values family loyalty over everything, and Pam sort of is a rule follower and feels like she has a sort of moral obligation to the world that sometimes could supersede the family. Yes.
Angela Kinsey
Yeah.
Jenna Fischer
I was like, that's really interesting. I also wrote, I used to be an illustrator, but Roy told me it was time for us to get regular jobs. I used to just be a receptionist on the side while I drew and tried to get work as an illustrator. I'm artistic, but I've given it up to have a more stable life and job.
Angela Kinsey
That is great, because for me, that fills in that question of, like, why is Pam there? Why is she the receptionist? Why does she seem so beat down in this job on top of everything else? It seems like a real step back for her just being there.
Jenna Fischer
Yeah. I felt like I needed to answer those questions for myself when I started the job.
Angela Kinsey
Theater students out there. How about that background work building your character, Things people don't ever see.
Jenna Fischer
It's true. Well, thank you very much to cartoona for asking us to dig around in our personal photos, because now I have my PAM document back.
Angela Kinsey
That's right. And, you guys, I'll share in our stories where you can find our animated highlights of the first six episodes of Office Ladies.
Jenna Fischer
And you can also find them at the link in Bio.
Angela Kinsey
Oh, yes, because Jenna's updated the link in Bio.
Jenna Fischer
Yes, I have. All right, well, Angela, now I'm very excited. I'm going to turn it over to you. You watched the webisode Blackmail.
Angela Kinsey
Yes, I did, and it is so delicious. It features Creed first of all, I want you guys to know where you can find these. All of the webisodes are on Peacock, but they're labeled a little different. You have to go to the tile that says the office, like the original office, not the superfan versions. And then under that, you have to click on a little tab that says collections. And then under that, scroll down and there's a little thing that says digital series.
Jenna Fischer
I don't want to get in their business, but I guess I do. Why are you making it so hard to find these?
Angela Kinsey
Yeah, you do have to dig. And also we always called them webisodes, so I guess they call them digital series, but that's where they live. And there's a bunch of them and they're fantastic. And today I want to highlight Blackmail. It is a series of four around two minute clips, and you just watch them all in a row. Clip one reveals Creed has decided to blackmail his co workers. The first person he's going to try to blackmail is Oscar. So the opening scene is Oscar watching a video on a laptop of Creed. And then Creed walks in behind him in real time. It's all in the conference room. I want you guys to hear it.
Creed Bratton
If you're watching this video, you've been a very naughty person. I have learned some of your deepest, darkest secrets. And with this knowledge, I have the ability to ruin your world. But it needn't come to that. It's possible I could forget a thing or two. If you're willing to compensate me, I'm 100% serious. Pay me now or I will share this with the world. Are my eyes blue?
Angela Kinsey
Are you trying to blackmail me?
Creed Bratton
Blackmail is an ugly word. I prefer extortion.
Angela Kinsey
Why are you doing this?
Creed Bratton
How much will you pay me to find out?
Angela Kinsey
Creed, this is low.
Creed Bratton
Easy on the sass. We're just two amigos having a conversation. Comprende?
Jenna Fischer
Si, la comprendo.
Creed Bratton
All right, let's switch back to English for a sec.
Angela Kinsey
Just spit it out.
Jenna Fischer
What do you have on me?
Angela Kinsey
So first of all, Creed saying, easy on the sass made my whole day. But what we find out that Creed has on Oscar is a video of Oscar getting picked up from work by his boyfriend. It's so uninteresting. It's so normal. And Oscar just dismisses it and leaves. So now Creed has to move on to someone else.
Jenna Fischer
Well, everybody already knows about Oscar and Gil. I mean, remember after gay witch hunt, they get to leave on like a 12 week vacation paid for by the company, right? So this isn't News Creed.
Angela Kinsey
Exactly. And Oscar just dismisses it.
Jenna Fischer
Yeah.
Angela Kinsey
So now he's gotta move on to Andy, and he hands Andy this green envelope. Andy takes a look inside and completely is thrown. He is shaken by whatever is inside this green envelope. That is sort of the cliffhanger that takes you to clip two. Clip two starts with Andy freaking out. Creed has given him an ultimatum, and he clearly has some good dirt on him. But Andy says, I don't know what to do yet. And then we learn a tough decision that Andy had to make in the past. Let's hear it. I'm freaking out, and I haven't freaked out about a decision like this since I had to choose between Here comes Treble, Treble in Paradise, the Treble Shooters, and the Finger Lake Maestros. That was his decision. He had to pick between these acapella groups. And I just think about our writers sitting there pitching different names for acapella groups, and they're all so amazing.
Jenna Fischer
You know, they spent way too many hours on those name pitches.
Angela Kinsey
Oh, yeah, I bet there's a ton more that we didn't even get to hear. So anyway, Creed is going to keep pressuring Andy, and then Andy just decides he's got to take matters into his own hands, and he is going to make this huge announcement to the bullpen about what Creed has on him. Any guesses, Lady?
Jenna Fischer
I can't think of anything.
Angela Kinsey
I was not prepared for this. He lifts up his shirt to show everyone he has a tattoo on his lower back, and it looks like it's written in sort of a different language. And he shares that it means nard Dog. Kelly starts teasing him, says he has a tramp stamp, and Andy says he doesn't regret it, but he is having it lasered off. So, Lady, Andy, this is his other tattoo. Cause he had nard Dog.
Jenna Fischer
Well, he gets Nard Dog.
Angela Kinsey
Exactly.
Jenna Fischer
So is this webisode between now and when he gets nard Dog?
Angela Kinsey
It's gotta be. But it's just hilarious to me that Andy has such mishaps with tattoos.
Jenna Fischer
Well, this is his snip, snap, snip, snap moment. Then he had a nard Dog tattoo that he got lasered off, and then he went and got another nard Dog tattoo.
Angela Kinsey
Exactly. But remember that trend where people would get different sayings or messages in, like, a different language?
Jenna Fischer
And I don't know the tattoo trends?
Angela Kinsey
What? Sam, are you there? This was. I remember in my improv days, there would be, like, some dude with, like, some type of character type writing on their arm, and it Would mean, like, truth.
Sam
That and tribal tattoo goes in and out of popularity every decade. Yeah.
Angela Kinsey
Yeah.
Jenna Fischer
Do you remember the armband tattoo?
Sam
I do.
Angela Kinsey
Yes.
Jenna Fischer
That Pamela Anderson got the barbed wire.
Angela Kinsey
Yes.
Sam
Those are in style again.
Jenna Fischer
Are they back?
Sam
Yep.
Jenna Fischer
I always liked those.
Sam
That and tramp stamps are officially back
Jenna Fischer
in trampoline Stamps are back.
Angela Kinsey
Well, Andy had one in a language. She wasn't really sure what it was, but it said nard dog. That's the thing. I always was like, if it's not the language you speak and you don't speak that language, how do you know? How do you know what's getting tattooed on you?
Sam
Yep.
Jenna Fischer
You gotta really trust your tattoo artist.
Angela Kinsey
Yeah, you do.
Jenna Fischer
You guys, I have a story of a famous guy. I'm not gonna say who it is.
Angela Kinsey
Oh, come on.
Jenna Fischer
But only because he would tell this story. If we had him on our podcast, he would tell this story.
Angela Kinsey
Okay.
Jenna Fischer
But I was working on a project with him, and he wanted to get a tattoo, and he came to set, and he was, like, talking about what he wanted, and it was, like, a nautical thing, and he had other tattoos, so this wasn't his first. And he was kind of going over it, and then eventually he got it, and he came and he showed it to us, and it was nothing at all, like, what he had kind of been describing to us that he wanted, and it wasn't great. I'm gonna also say, like, it's not that the tattoo work wasn't great, but the design.
Sam
Where on his body was it?
Jenna Fischer
God. I think it was, like, on his bicep.
Sam
Okay, good.
Angela Kinsey
Wait, Sam, why is that?
Sam
I want it to be visible and prominent. Visible and prominent?
Angela Kinsey
Yeah.
Jenna Fischer
It like, short sleeve shirt.
Sam
Good.
Angela Kinsey
Here it is. Oh, my gosh.
Jenna Fischer
And we're all looking at it, and none of us know how to react, and so we're all kind of like, huh? And he goes, I know, I know. And we're like, it's just different than what you said. He goes, I know. I. When I got there and he showed me the drawing, I didn't like it.
Angela Kinsey
What?
Jenna Fischer
But I felt bad, so I just
Angela Kinsey
let him do it tattooed on my body forever.
Jenna Fischer
Yeah, because you felt bad. Cause he was like. He didn't want.
Sam
He didn't want to speak up.
Jenna Fischer
Yeah. He just, like, didn't want to disappoint the tattoo artist. Yeah. And then we were like, dude, it's on you forever.
Sam
Yeah. You got to push back a little.
Jenna Fischer
And he was like, I know. I really regret not saying something.
Angela Kinsey
Oh, my gosh.
Jenna Fischer
What and then we just teased him incessantly about it.
Angela Kinsey
I wonder if he ever got it lasered off.
Jenna Fischer
I don't think so.
Angela Kinsey
Did he pull an Andy?
Jenna Fischer
I couldn't ask him, I guess, but maybe he likes it now. I mean, maybe it grew on him. But, you guys, it looks like something like a nautical logo on the menu
Sam
of a fish restaurant that's at Sharkey's in Redondo Beach.
Jenna Fischer
Something like that. Something like that. Just super basic.
Jordan Duffy
Sure.
Angela Kinsey
I don't know how long it's been since you've spoken to this person, but if you did, out of nowhere, let's say text him and say, hey, remember that random nautical tattoo you got? Did you have it lasered off? What do you think? It's odd. And would he respond?
Jenna Fischer
I'll ask him.
Angela Kinsey
Oh, my God, she's texting right now.
Jenna Fischer
I mean, this is super random. Let's see. The last time we texted was last October.
Angela Kinsey
Oh, that's not bad.
Jenna Fischer
Yeah.
Angela Kinsey
Okay, what is Jordan laughing about? I can hear Jordan laughing.
Sam
I just said I want it to be like, Ben Affleck or somebody with a gi.
Jenna Fischer
Does Ben Affleck still have that giant
Sam
yes on his back?
Jenna Fischer
It's real, right?
Sam
It's a phoenix. Yeah. And it's real.
Jenna Fischer
And that wasn't.
Sam
Nope.
Angela Kinsey
What? I always thought that was for a movie.
Sam
No, it's real, and it is on there full time.
Jenna Fischer
And it's full cop.
Jordan Duffy
Yeah, it's.
Angela Kinsey
Wow.
Sam
Wow.
Jenna Fischer
And so, Sam, you've had tattoos, like, full color. That's a multi.
Sam
That's multiple sessions.
Jordan Duffy
Yeah.
Angela Kinsey
Wow.
Sam
And multiple thousands of dollars.
Jenna Fischer
Do you have any tattoos that you have soured on since you got them, Sam?
Sam
Yes, I have the word truth written in Latin on my left.
Jordan Duffy
Oh, my God.
Angela Kinsey
No, you don't, Sam. No, you don't. I'm telling you right now. There was a guy in my improv days that had truth on his forearm written in, like, Mandarin.
Sam
Well, this is an old thing. They just don't like the placement of it. It's blocking other, bigger tattoos.
Angela Kinsey
Okay, that's amazing. Well, while we wait for Jenna's mysterious famous person with the lame nautical tattoo to get back to us, we are going to move on now to clip three of the Blackmail webisode series. Now, Creed. Andy's sort of big announcement worked. Creed has to move on to someone else. And it's Kelly. He hands Kelly a green envelope. Kelly looks inside, and it's a picture of her kissing a girl. She's completely unfazed. She's like, creed, this is my MySpace profile picture. And she really loves the attention it's getting her. I have to give a shout out right here to the fellows on how we made your mother because they shared with us that they love our old tech call outs during our rewatch of the office. And they have added one. They have one called old ref, which is like an old reference. And I think MySpace is both old tech and old ref.
Jenna Fischer
Yep.
Angela Kinsey
So Creed is going to try again with Kelly because he's desperate now, and he's like, all right, fine. I've got something else on you. And we find out that Kelly skipped work to go to a Jonas brothers concert.
Jenna Fischer
Oh.
Angela Kinsey
And then Kelly caves. She's like, ugh. And Creed lists off his demands. Let's hear them.
Creed Bratton
If you want me to be silent, I'm gonna need a little something from you, Creed.
Jenna Fischer
I cannot lose my job. I have so much credit.
Creed Bratton
I want a helicopter.
Jenna Fischer
I can't afford that.
Creed Bratton
Well, then I want commodities. I want gold. Oil. Political capital. Four leaf clovers. Bones. Information. Uranium.
Jenna Fischer
Do you mean information like facts?
Creed Bratton
No, like gossip.
Jenna Fischer
What do you want to know?
Angela Kinsey
I mean, Kelly can play ball on gossip.
Jenna Fischer
Yeah, well, now he can use what she tells him to blackmail more people.
Angela Kinsey
Exactly. This cuts immediately to Creed walking through the whole bullpen, passing out green envelopes left and right. He gives one to Angela, then he gives one to Meredith. Meredith opens hers and says, who's Pastor Jim? And then Creed's like, oh, wait a second. And he grabs that one and hands it to Angela, and Angela's all flushed. I know.
Jenna Fischer
Did Angela hook up with Pastor Jim?
Angela Kinsey
We don't know. But that's as far as that moment goes. Because then Oscar's like, wait, we've gotta take care of this. Next clip is clip four. So Oscar has dug up a bunch of stuff on Creed, and they all confront him with it in the conference room. There's, like, a list of all sorts of stuff. Two that stood out for me was that Creed introduced the walking snakehead fish to the North American ecosystem. And he has it on good authority that Creed throws raves in the warehouse and is known by partygoers as Papa Smurf. What does that mean? Sam, by the way, if you're known as Papa Smurf at a rave.
Sam
I don't know.
Angela Kinsey
I thought maybe it meant something.
Jordan Duffy
No, I don't.
Angela Kinsey
It could mean that you're like. You give people.
Sam
Like, in all my years of going to raves and doing drugs, I've never been labeled Papa Smurf.
Angela Kinsey
I didn't Think you had been labeled, but I didn't know if at a rave. Listen, all I know about raves is from John Wick movies.
Sam
That's all you need to know. That's all that's going on.
Angela Kinsey
That's where assassins go to, like, run through the crowd.
Sam
Yeah.
Angela Kinsey
Anyway, ultimately, Andy is like, what are we doing, you guys? They look and see that the amount of money Creed is blackmailing them for. Any guesses? What, $6?
Jenna Fischer
What does he want to get?
Angela Kinsey
Wait. He says $6 are the equivalent in postage stamps or canned goods. And Andy's like, this just kind of makes me feel bad. He clearly needs the $6. So they all just cave in and they give Creed the money. It ends with Creed super happy. He's at his laptop, and there's an image on his computer. It's a toy helicopter, but Creed clearly thinks it's a real helicopter. And he takes his $6, and. You guys, he shoves it into the floppy disk feed like he thinks it's going to spit out the.
Jenna Fischer
Like a vending machine.
Angela Kinsey
Yes. And he explains that he's so excited, he's going to fly his new helicopter to Brazil to see the world's largest library.
Jordan Duffy
Oh.
Angela Kinsey
And that is the end of Blackmail. There are some great scenes that I didn't even get into because some of them are visuals. They're so funny, you guys. I really recommend this one. It's a fun watch.
Jenna Fischer
Well, that was delightful, Angela. Thank you for breaking that down for us.
Angela Kinsey
I just thought it was so fun. I loved filming these webisodes, and it was always just a skeleton crew and a group of us on the weekends, and we got to just play around. So it kind of brought me down memory lane.
Jenna Fischer
Well, I haven't heard back from my famous friend, so why don't we take a break? When we come back, we've got around the Town and our office. Question of the week, and maybe also an answer about this tattoo.
Angela Kinsey
I don't know about you, but there's just something about spring. I start spring cleaning, I start organizing, and it kind of makes me want to redo every room in my house.
Jenna Fischer
Well, you know, most of the time, furniture stores are going to make that feel impossible, especially when you see their price tags.
Angela Kinsey
Oh, I know.
Jenna Fischer
Well, thankfully, Bob's Discount Furniture does things a little differently. You can give your room a zhuzh, and it's not going to break the bank. Have you heard about the play Day sectional? My kids love stuff like this. It's a sectional, but it's got built in bookshelves, it has charging ports and it has a pop up sleeper for guests so you can do a movie night. You're charging your phone and then if you don't feel like going to the bedroom, just pop up the bed, have a rest.
Angela Kinsey
I love all of that. So when you're ready to get going on that long awaited home makeover, know that there's a better way to score wow worthy pieces at everyday low prices.
Jenna Fischer
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Angela Kinsey
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Jenna Fischer
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Angela Kinsey
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Jenna Fischer
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Angela Kinsey
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Angela Kinsey
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Jenna Fischer
Prices are based on rating plans that vary by state. Coverage options are selected by the Customer availability, amount of discounts, and savings and eligibility vary by state. We are back. Still no news from my friend, everybody. Sorry to leave you hanging, but now it's time for around the town. Our first bit of news is from Michelle G. In Stratford, Ontario, Canada. Michelle wants us to know Stratford has a lot going on this year. We have been named a top 10 list of places in Canada to visit. We have our chef school running fun courses for anyone to attend. Our theater is in its 73rd year. We have a chocolate tour, a bacon and ale tour, and audio walking tours. We are also dealing with the most snow that we have had in years. Well, Michelle, I'm jealous of all your snow. The skiers in my family have been chasing snow. It's not in any of the usual places this year, so I guess it's come to you.
Angela Kinsey
Well. Well, I just want to go to the walking tours. I mean, a bacon and ale tour.
Jenna Fischer
Bacon and ale chocolate tour.
Angela Kinsey
Mm. Yes, please.
Jenna Fischer
I know.
Angela Kinsey
All right, our next around the town is from Becca B. Becca says every year around National Golden Retriever Day, Golden Colorado hosts an event called Goldens and Golden Thousands, and she put that in all caps. Thousands of golden retrievers, or impostors and their owners gathered to celebrate all of the good boys. Isn't that adorable?
Jenna Fischer
Golden Retriever Day.
Angela Kinsey
Yes.
Jenna Fischer
Oh, my gosh.
Angela Kinsey
I have actually seen on Instagram, like, these golden retriever gatherings where people all get together with their golden retrievers. I know there's several different dog breeds that do this, but it's pretty fricking adorable.
Jenna Fischer
All right, I looked this up. The article says over 5,500 golden retrievers gathered in Golden Colorado on February 7th to enjoy the annual Goldens and Golden celebration. Wow. I want to go.
Angela Kinsey
My friend has a golden retriever, and whenever, like, there's a group of them, like, we'll go on a hike, and then they all, like, say hi to each other. I don't know. It's just so cute, you guys. It looks like they smile, lady.
Jenna Fischer
You have to post about this because I'm looking at this article and the photos are incredible.
Angela Kinsey
Yeah, I've seen on Instagram. It's just. Just amazing. We'll share in our stories. It's way bigger than you could even imagine. I mean, I know we're throwing out numbers, but when you see everybody together, you're like, holy moly.
Jenna Fischer
All right, well, our last bit of around the town comes from Natalie D. In Kansas City, who said, I have been competitive bowling since I was 13 years old. Natalie is now 28. And finally got her first 300 perfect game last week.
Angela Kinsey
Natalie, congratulations.
Jenna Fischer
Thanks to the Office Ladies for providing entertainment on long car rides to tournaments. That is a big deal.
Angela Kinsey
That is a big accomplishment. 300.
Jenna Fischer
My grandpa was a bowler, and I remember when he got his 300 game, it was huge. It was, like, such a big deal. That is how many 12 strikes in a row? Because the 10th frame is three?
Sam
Yeah, I think so.
Jenna Fischer
Wow. Well done.
Angela Kinsey
That is amazing, Natalie. My bowling is. I either get up there and I just roll the slowest moving ball that hits the pins, and it's like, p P. And I get a strike, and everyone's like, what just happened? Or I gutter ball it. Those are the only two. That's my skill set.
Sam
That's incredible.
Angela Kinsey
I know. It's pretty amazing. Sign me up for your team. All right. Up next, everybody, is our Office question of the Week. This comes from Nadia H. In Michigan. Nadia says, hello, Office ladies. I have been wanting to write you all for over a year now, and I am beyond excited that I am now caught up with the podcast episodes and can share how much you two mean to me. The Office is my favorite show. I own all of the DVD box sets, tons of merch, and I even have an office comforter that I use every night. You two are truly some of the most special people in the world, and thank you so much for all the hard work that you put into the Office Ladies franchise. Aw, that's so sweet. Nadia goes on to say, I am a neurodivergent individual who lives in a world that is not always friendly or accepting of people like me. This can be very hard and overwhelming at times, but whenever I listen to your podcast, I feel so heard, seen, and just at peace. I could go on for ages about how much you two mean to me, but in summary, I just want you to know how much I love you both. And the. Nadia sent in a bunch of questions, and one of the ones we want to answer today is, do you guys ever feel weird seeing your face on merchandise or wallpapers?
Jenna Fischer
And she also said, P.S. angela, I love your diary. It's one of my favorite things ever. Aw, Nadia. First of all, we just want to say thank you for all those kind words.
Angela Kinsey
Yes.
Jenna Fischer
I can't even tell you what it means to me that the podcast brings you peace and comfort.
Angela Kinsey
Yeah. And that you feel seen and heard. And we love doing this podcast, and we really love our Office Ladies family. So thank you so much for being part of it.
Jenna Fischer
And also, yes, it is Weird seeing my face on merchandise and wallpapers. I'm not sure I've ever gotten used to it.
Angela Kinsey
It's just weird. And it's. It pops up in the most random places. I think I've shared this before. One time my sister Janet texted me and she was at TJ Maxx and she said, ang, your face is on a shot glass. Yeah. Yeah. It is just really wild. And it has just kept going all these years.
Jenna Fischer
Well, did you hear now they're turning the office characters into Fortnite skins?
Angela Kinsey
I did hear this. My son's told me.
Jenna Fischer
Well, Dwight and Michael are out. Jim and Pam are coming out. I don't know if they're gonna do more. And you know, something I wanna let everyone know is that I found this out in the news. Like, nobody asked me. I didn't have to give permission. I don't get paid anything for it.
Angela Kinsey
Well, none of us do.
Jenna Fischer
No.
Angela Kinsey
The whole entire. Whatever, whoever they feature anywhere doing stuff, we don't get paid for it.
Jenna Fischer
No. Which is also weird because you just feel like your face is everywhere. But I was like, really? I don't get anything for my face as a Fortnite skin? And I guess it's quote unquote, Pam. It's not me. But I'm like. But just. Cause it's my face in a pink sweater. Like, so anytime you take my face and put it in a pink sweater, it's not me, it's Pam. And then I don't get anything for it. NBC gets the money. I find that weird. I'm sorry. I find it weird. I don't understand why we don't get a cut of that.
Angela Kinsey
It is weird. It's just weird every time. Well, you know, it's like sometimes it's just so clearly our face, you know, it's like so like it's literally a picture of us. Yeah. But anyway, Nadia, it is kind of odd. It is. And I think what's always interesting to me is the different ways they find to put our faces on, like this. Fortnite skins and a shot glass or a bath towel.
Sam
Do either of you remember the first thing that you saw your face on? Like when the Office. You know, like season one, season two, like when merch started rolling out.
Jenna Fischer
Oh, gosh. That's a good question. I know that the NBC store in New York had like a Jim and Pam mug or something. And it was around Valentine's Day. And I remember John and I went to New York and we did like a little press thing and we were in the NBC store, and I was like, oh, my gosh, John, we're on this mug.
Angela Kinsey
Yeah.
Jenna Fischer
So maybe that was the first time I saw myself as merch. Okay.
Angela Kinsey
Yeah. I think for me, it was NBC put out these little Valentine's cards.
Sam
Oh, okay.
Angela Kinsey
And it had Dwight and Angela. It had the lady all around, Michael Scott. He's holding up a heart.
Jenna Fischer
Yeah.
Angela Kinsey
And there were these little Valentine's cards you could buy. And I was so tickled by it. I really was just so delighted. And I think the thing, Nadia, I would want you to know, it's like, I love fans that find creative ways to recreate our characters. I love all the fan art so much. And I think sometimes, though, you feel like you're part of some big corporate machine when it's like Fortnite skins. It's different. It's a little different, you know, But I love it. Fans interpretations of the characters on the show. And I love it when people make us stuff and send it to us. It's really cool. But when you're out just walking around somewhere and your face is on, like, a TJ Maxx shot glass, you're like, wait, how did that happen?
Jenna Fischer
I think that's a good point, Angela. I am here for every Etsy shop where a fan has interpreted our characters and made some super cool thing. And usually that stuff is way cooler too. I think you're right. It's like when the big mega corporation is getting a bunch of money because they put your face on something, and then it's just another big mega corporation splitting all the funds. Like, I'd much rather some, like, cool Etsy artist get some moolah.
Angela Kinsey
Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely.
Jenna Fischer
Yeah. So, Etsy, folks, we're here for you. Keep it up.
Angela Kinsey
Yeah.
Jenna Fischer
All right, well, listen, that's all we've got, except we have one more thing.
Angela Kinsey
Did the anonymous celebrity with the lame nautical tattoo get back to you? I've seen you texting over there.
Jenna Fischer
He did. He did. And first of all, he wrote, yes, I still have it.
Angela Kinsey
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Jenna Fischer
And then he said the tattoo artist was so handsome and cool, I didn't want to disappoint him. And then he said I could reveal who he is, and he sent me in some audio. No way.
Angela Kinsey
Oh, my gosh. Exclusive celebrity with lame nautical tattoo is Oliver Hudson.
Sam
Oliver, I would never have guessed.
Jenna Fischer
Here we go.
Jordan Duffy
So I had wanted to get a tattoo for my kids for years and didn't really know what it was. I knew I wanted something Nautical. Because of my love for the ocean. I wanted something a little different, something cool. Not your standard old school anchor. And I went to this guy, won't say his name because I don't want to diss him. He's an incredible artist. Like, there's no doubt. It just wasn't his forte, I guess. Anyway, I went there. He put the stencil on me that he sort of came up with. And it just. I wasn't really feeling it, but he was so cool and extremely handsome and all tatted up that I felt. Felt, like, insecure about making any changes. And I said, well, what if we did this and he did something else and put another stencil on? I was like, yeah. Even though I was like, oh, my God, no. And then I get on the table, four hours later, I have it on my arm, and it looks like a chandelier. It doesn't look like an anchor. Looks like a. A grand chandelier in a beautiful ballroom. But it's on me forever now. And I was depressed for a long time, and now I only get depressed every once in a while.
Angela Kinsey
He's probably like, thanks for bringing it back up. This ruined his week, you guys.
Jenna Fischer
I'm so glad he sent that in, because I just need you to know that is the delight that it is to work with Oliver Hudson. If you just want to have the best, most fun project, you want to hire Oliver Hudson. And he's so talented, too. Like, he's so funny. He's so good with drama. I adore him so much.
Angela Kinsey
And you should share. You guys worked together on Splitting Up Together.
Jenna Fischer
Yes. For two seasons of a TV show. And we ended our show on, like, this giant cliffhanger because we got canceled. We had this big cliffhanger. We were all sure we were gonna get a season three, and then they canceled, and it was such a bummer. I worked on that with Bobby Lee.
Angela Kinsey
Yeah.
Jenna Fischer
Yeah.
Angela Kinsey
Great group, Oliver. Thank you so much. I really need to see a picture now. I don't know if he'd be up for sending us a picture, but chandelier is not the image I had in my head this whole time.
Jenna Fischer
I know maybe I didn't describe it very well. My memory.
Sam
You described it perfectly.
Angela Kinsey
Did I?
Jordan Duffy
Yes.
Jenna Fischer
Okay.
Angela Kinsey
Oh, my gosh, Oliver, thank you. And you know what? You gotta come. You gotta come hang with us on Office Lady.
Jenna Fischer
He really does. It would be the absolute best time.
Angela Kinsey
Well, you guys, that was Office News and Blackmail. We hope you enjoyed it.
Jenna Fischer
Yeah, check out the link in bio for all kinds of cool stuff. Oh, here it is. I'm sorry. He just sent it. He just sent.
Angela Kinsey
I want to see it.
Jenna Fischer
He just sent a photo.
Angela Kinsey
I need to see it. I'm sorry. Turn it around, Sam. Jordan.
Jenna Fischer
It's worse than I remember.
Angela Kinsey
Bird. I'm sorry.
Jenna Fischer
Do you see it?
Angela Kinsey
I do. It's like.
Jenna Fischer
It's like multiple anchors.
Angela Kinsey
It's multiple anchors hanging.
Sam
It's like. It's like adorned with jewels. It's.
Angela Kinsey
It's like multiple anchors hanging off an anchor with like also the letter H.
Jenna Fischer
Well, because he has three fancy navy. So I think it's three anchors. So large, you guys.
Angela Kinsey
So much of his. Can I see? Oh, my God. It's enormous. It's his whole bicep and I like
Sam
if you zoom in, he's grimacing just a bit. Sending it.
Jenna Fischer
Oh, Oliver, I love you so much. I love you so much.
Angela Kinsey
I want to say a quick thank you to Jordan Duffy for coming in today. She is going to be here whenever Sam has to travel or go out of town. Jordan, thanks so much. It was great to see you. It was so great seeing you guys too.
Jenna Fischer
I'm so happy to be helping out when I can.
Angela Kinsey
Yay.
Jenna Fischer
All right, everyone, we'll see you next week.
Angela Kinsey
See you then.
Jenna Fischer
Thank you for listening to Office Ladies.
Angela Kinsey
Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey.
Jenna Fischer
Our senior producer is Matt Beagle. Our audio engineer is Sam Kieffer, and our associate producer is Ainslie Bubaco.
Angela Kinsey
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Jenna Fischer
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Hosts: Jenna Fischer & Angela Kinsey
Special Guests/Contributors: Sam, Matt, Jordan Duffy, listener voice messages
Episode Theme:
A lively and affectionate catch-up where Jenna and Angela share recent Office news, highlight the Season 9 Superfan episodes, break down the “Blackmail” webisode starring Creed Bratton, answer fan mail and stories, and go deep into Office nostalgia, behind-the-scenes tidbits, and a hilarious tattoo story.
This episode is all about community and connection, from listener questions about comfort foods to exclusive Office content updates and hilarious stories from the show’s history. Jenna and Angela balance in-depth breakdowns (notably of the Creed-led Blackmail webisode) with new Office content releases, upcoming projects by Office alumni, and authentic banter — with special participation from their producer Matt, engineer Sam, and guest co-host Jordan Duffy. The tone is personal, playful, and full of “inside baseball” for devoted Office and Office Ladies fans.
(Starts ~05:04)
Carolyn talks about sick season and shares that she makes the Italian wedding soup from Angela and Josh’s cookbook for her family when they're under the weather; asks about Jenna & Angela’s go-to sick-day soups.
Notable Quote:
Jenna: “There are a gazillion Reddit threads and articles dedicated to the question, ‘Do you really need a bay leaf in your soup?’ It's like a whole thing in the soup community.” (09:00)
Angela to share Kendra Adachi’s “no-recipe” soup podcast in Instagram stories, invites fans to send soup links for “soup in stories.” (10:50)
(Starts ~13:19)
Notable Quote:
Jenna: “They wrote that because we all used to come to set... and we were all absorbed in our phones, and I felt like it was a little, like, subtle... like they were making fun of us.” (15:50)
(Starts ~19:23)
(Starts ~21:50)
Notable Moment:
Jenna’s handwritten “Pam” document revealed, detailing Pam’s imaginary biggest fight with Roy and her background as an illustrator, providing deep insight into character preparation. (27:22-29:09)
Deep Dive Segment ~30:05 – 44:48
Angela takes us through the delightfully weird “Blackmail” webisode series (on Peacock as “digital series”), explaining where to find them and breaking down each clip.
Creed’s blackmailing plan begins:
Andy’s scandal:
Kelly’s secrets:
The office fights back:
(36:00 – 44:00, resumes at 58:49)
(48:28 – 52:34)
From Nadia H. in Michigan (53:34 – 58:42)
Q: Do you feel weird seeing your face on merchandise or wallpapers?
This episode is a breezy, interactive recap of all things Office-adjacent in 2026, anchored by Angela and Jenna’s warmth and wit. It’s full of quick pivots between trivia, fan connections, the joy and weirdness of TV memorabilia, and inside baseball few others can provide. The feature on the “Blackmail” webisodes is a perfect tribute to the show’s ongoing legacy, and the deep-dive into personal scripts and memories is a real treat for fans. The tattoo story offers a laugh-out-loud, fittingly human finale.
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Next Week:
More fan stories, Office universe updates, and, if we’re lucky, more confessions about ill-advised tattoos.