Second Drink: Fun Run Part 2

Summary

Office Ladies – "Second Drink: Fun Run Part 2"

Release Date: November 10, 2025
Hosts: Jenna Fischer & Angela Kinsey
Podcast Theme: A behind-the-scenes, episode-by-episode rewatch of The Office by two of its stars/best friends.

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Episode Overview

In this lively installment, Jenna and Angela dive into "Fun Run Part 2," covering the second half of The Office’s season 4 premiere. They reminisce about shooting on location, reveal personal stories from set (including Jenna’s real-life injury), explore the episode’s memorable plotlines—Michael’s rabies fun run, Pam and Jim’s relationship reveal, the fallout of Sprinkles’ untimely death—and answer fan questions about production, wardrobe, props, and more. The chemistry between the co-hosts shines through as they balance genuine affection, playful teasing, and insightful episode breakdowns.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

Filming "Fun Run" on Location & Behind the Scenes

• Returning from Summer Break:
  • The cast was especially chatty and energetic.
    • Angela Kinsey (03:07): “Yeah, I miss our little hangouts between scenes, especially when we're on location.”
• Photo Memories:
  • NBC's photographers captured candid moments, many still online.
    • Jenna (02:37): “Such a sweet one of you and Steve just walking and talking. It really made me miss us.”

The Sprinkles Debate: Who’s to Blame?

• Fan Mail on Blame:
  • Some assert it’s Pam's fault for making Angela visit Meredith, forcing Dwight to care for Sprinkles; others blame Dwight.
  • Angie Z.’s fan email (03:18):
    • “It was definitely Dwight's fault. ... He probably didn't do it right because he wasn't even paying attention...”
  • Angela (04:10): “Well, it is true. I mean, she gave Dwight a whole written out list. All he had to do was look at it.”
• Pam’s Guilt:
  • Jenna (04:02): "I really took on as Pam some of that responsibility after our All About Angela Martin episode."

The Documentary Crew Gets Involved

• Unique Narrative Move:
  • The episode’s documentary crew directly shows Jim and Pam footage of them kissing.
  • Fan Theory (Ashley S.):
    • The crew wants the “scoop” for Brian, the boom guy (04:15).
  • Jenna and Angela debate the implications—why the crew breaks its usual non-interference.

Wardrobe and Props Deep Dive

• Angela’s Mourning Outfit:

  • Angela (05:20):
    • Detailed description including “scrunched high collar” and “poet’s blouse” sleeves.

• Fun Run T-Shirts and Wristbands:

  • Jenna (14:25): “She designed those. We made them ourselves. She said that she just tried to imagine Michael getting on the phone and ordering those T shirts with the ridiculously long name...”
  • The blue color was chosen because it’s universally flattering.
  • Angela wore custom crop pants instead of shorts; wore Keds at first, swapped for true sneakers for running scenes.
  • Angela’s Sprinkles Shirt:
    • Custom made by wardrobe; not kept by Angela.

• Dwight’s Schrute Farms Shirt:

  • Made last minute with a parking lot stencil and spray paint—no art file exists.
  • Demand post-episode led to marketing scrambling for ways to mass-produce it.

• Michael’s “Women’s” Shorts?:

  • Jenna (18:49):
    • Carrie (costumes) insists they weren’t women’s shorts—Steve Carell was just in very fit shape and hard to dress as “unathletic Michael” once in casual attire.

Real Life Injury Shapes Storyline

• Jenna’s Back Injury and On-Set BFF Support:
  • The reason Pam walks (not runs): Jenna broke four transverse vertebrae in her back in May 2007 after falling down marble stairs at a work event in NYC.
  • Angela was there the whole time—at the hospital, staying with Jenna at the Ritz Carlton while she recovered.
    • Angela (27:14): “I didn't leave your side because you had family on the way. ... Every friendship has these milestone moments that you're forever bonded by."
  • Jenna (28:08): “If you're wondering why Angela and I are best friends and will be best friends forever—friends who, catheter, together, stay together.”
• Series Impact:
  • Writers had to work her recovery into the episode; Pam’s laid-back “sassy” demeanor was, in part, a practical workaround.

"Fun Run" Production Challenges

• Hour-Long Episodes:
  • Season 4 begins with four hour-long episodes to fill network space after a network exec’s special request. The writing challenge was making two halves stand alone if rerun as individual episodes.

Notable Quotes

• Jenna (13:06): “Greg said it was a challenge because he had to wrap up the first episode in a way that would make it satisfying for a future viewer to watch it in a half hour form.”

Iconic Scenes and Comedy Highlights

• Pam Reciting the Race Title—Mouthful and All:

  • Jenna (33:49): “I had to memorize that. But I did have it sitting on a piece of paper... I would look at it intensely because that is a mouthful.”

• Rabies Quilt:

  • Phyllis makes a “rabies quilt” as part of fundraising efforts.
  • Available online for real-life purchase.

• Andy’s Nipple Chafing:

  • Fan question leads to Justin Spitzer’s inspiration: bloody post-marathon shirts in real life.
    • Angela (39:05): “Also called Jogger’s Nipple. ... I love a good business name. NipEes. Mr. Nip. Nip Strips.”

• The “Crew Turns on Us” Scene (Angela & Pam):

  • [43:06] They repeatedly crack up during Angela’s grief-stricken cubicle confessional, delaying filming until director Greg Daniels calls for a break.
    • Angela (45:00): “These two gals who are literally laughing so hard they can't speak. And Greg was like, why don't we take a break...Oh no, Jenna, they're turning on us.”

• Pam’s Sassy Transformation:

  • “Happy Pam is a sassy Pam. She gives zero Fs about what's going on around her. She's a totally different person.” (Angela, 11:46)
  • Ignoring Angela’s pain, “Well, I’m more of a dog person.” (Jenna as Pam, 43:55)

• Jim & Pam Go Public:

  • Documentary crew “forces” their hand by showing footage, leading to an adorable, no-denial reveal.

Deleted Scenes and Unseen Moments

• Angela Spits on Bob Vance:
  • In a background scene (unseen in aired cut), Angela spits on Bob when he mentions one of her cats, alluding to a mysterious history between Meredith and Angela’s cats (63:18).

Trivia, Easter Eggs & Deep Dives

• Jan's Nurse Costume:
  • The iconic “nurse” outfit worn by the stripper making the check presentation reappears on Angela’s character in a later Halloween episode (season 7).
  • Real nurse “cross” symbol not allowed by Red Cross—had to invert colors for legal reasons.
• Michael Shirt-Cocking:
  • Hosts riff on the term “shirt cocking” to describe Michael greeting Pam while nude but wearing a shirt.

Physical Comedy & Gross-Out Gags

• Michael’s Carboloading Fail:

  • Shovels fettuccine Alfredo before the race, only to collapse and vomit across the finish line.
  • Steve Carell spit out the pasta for most takes; hot summer day made real eating unbearable.

• Nipple Chafing & Niche Product Industry:

  • Angela’s research uncovers real-world men's nipple-protection products and names.

• Lollipop Sharing:

  • The final scene: Michael gives Meredith a lollipop, then refuses to take it back after she’s used it—improvised by Steve Carell, completed by Kate Flannery “without rinsing it off.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:29 – Hosts reminisce about location filming and cast friendship
• 03:13 – Debate over who’s to blame for Sprinkles’ death
• 04:54 – Fan theory: The doc crew intervenes for Brian
• 05:20 – Angela describes her "mourning" outfit
• 14:25 – Deep dive into Fun Run shirts and props
• 20:12 – Jenna recounts her back injury, Angela recounts hospital experience
• 29:46 – Returns from ad break: Parade and cozy home stories
• 33:11 – Pam answers phones, delivers the race’s absurdly long title
• 35:45 – Phyllis’s “rabies quilt” and a quilting tangent
• 37:43 – Andy’s nipple chafing and real-life inspiration
• 43:06 – “The moment the crew turned on us” (Angela & Jenna repeatedly break)
• 46:58 – Fan “soapbox”: Is Pam indirectly responsible for Sprinkles’ demise?
• 51:40 – Conference Room: Michael plans giant check and rabies doctor
• 57:49 – Michael “shirt cocks” Pam; the logistics of filming the scene
• 66:11 – Michael’s infamous fettuccine carbo-load
• 67:56 – Dwight fires off a real (blank) gun to start the run
• 71:10 – Dwight sabotages Toby’s run with Imodium
• 72:16 – The anti-run trio (Oscar, Creed, Stanley) ditch for a café
• 75:56 – Dwight and Angela’s running dialogue, heartbreak, and performance notes
• 82:03 – Michael’s palm-tree-shadowed, nauseated finish
• 83:16 – Michael & Meredith share (for real) the lollipop

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Behind-the-Scenes Friendship:

  • “Friends who, catheter, together, stay together.” – Jenna (28:08)

• On Pam’s Transformation:

  • “Happy Pam is a sassy Pam. She gives zero Fs about what's going on around her. She's a totally different person.” – Angela (11:46)

• On Costuming:

  • “She [Carrie Bennett] just tried to imagine Michael getting on the phone and ordering those T shirts with the ridiculously long name and insisting all the words be on the shirt…” – Jenna (14:25)

• On Set Challenges:

  • “You have to imagine from my point of view what it’s like to have your tiny blonde head pop up suddenly. It’s very funny.” – Jenna (44:41, on Angela in the cubicle scene)

• On Pam & Jim’s Reveal:

  • “You know what? We’re dating.” – Pam (49:38), perfectly encapsulating “Happy Pam Sass.”

• On Filming the Naked Michael Scene:

  • “Steve was actually wearing like a flesh colored Speedo. It’s still not pleasant to look at, guys.” – Jenna (58:12)

• On Michael’s Fettuccine Finish:

  • “He slowly makes his way across the finish line. And I caught a palm tree.” – Angela (81:56)

• On Angela’s Performance:

  • “She is a mixture of tragically funny and also just heartbreaking…” – Fan letter (76:37)

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Fan Questions, Fun Facts & Behind-the-Scenes Revelations

• “Fun Run” shirts were designed in-house, with blue chosen for universal appeal.
• Steve Carell’s impressive fitness required creative costuming to maintain “Michael’s” less athletic look.
• Ed Helms had to actually tape his shirt for Andy’s nipple chafing gags — quite uncomfortable!
• Deleted scenes included Angela spitting on Bob Vance and Dwight reflecting on forgiveness, paralleling Michael’s accident forgiveness arc with Meredith.
• The “nurse” costume worn by Elizabeth the stripper is the same costume Angela wears in a season 7 Halloween episode.
• All lollipop sharing in the hospital finale was authentic and not rehearsed.

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Closing Thoughts

The episode is a delightful blend of revealing cast camaraderie, detailed production knowledge, and uproarious anecdotes. Jenna and Angela’s chemistry, their depth of memory, and their enthusiasm for both the comedy and artistry behind The Office shine throughout. For Office fans (or curious newcomers), it’s an irresistible blend of nostalgia, laughter, and new insights.

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Next episode tease:
They close out “Fun Run” and look forward to the next rewatch, promising more behind-the-scenes gems.

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Summary prepared for Office Ladies fans and The Office enthusiasts seeking an in-depth, timestamped, and colorfully-quoted highlight of a memorable podcast episode.

Transcript

[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

Welcome back to second drink of Fun Run Part 2. I mentioned this last week. I love these episodes so much. I had such a blast filming My scenes for Fun Run.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, we got to get out of the office. We always enjoyed Sunshine. We talk about that. I really love the pictures from this episode. I have so much, so many. We brought our cameras, but also NBC sent photographers out and they got a ton of behind the scenes moments. They're still on the NBC website. I saw one of Greg talking through a scene with me and John and Angela. There's such a sweet one of you and Steve just walking and talking.

[Angela Kinsey]

It just.

[Jenna Fischer]

It really made me miss us.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, I miss our little hangouts between scenes, especially when we're on location.

[Jenna Fischer]

And this was especially fun because we were coming back from a summer break, so we were all real chatty.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, well, we can't talk about Fun Run and not discuss Sprinkles Rip Sprinkles. Yes. And you know, we got a lot of mail about whose fault it really was for Sprinkles death. We discussed this in our episode all about Angela Martin. We had said maybe if Pam hadn't made Angela go to the hospital in the first place to see Meredith, that Sprinkles would still be alive. But Angie Z. Wrote in and said this. I don't think Pam was responsible for Sprinkle's death. It was definitely Dwight's fault. You can clearly see how much he doesn't care about doing the tasks that Angela asked him to do for her cat. He probably didn't do it right because he wasn't even paying attention when she was telling him how to give Sprinkles her medicine. Most definitely Dwight's fault.

[Jenna Fischer]

I appreciate it. I do. I really took on as Pam some of that responsibility after our all about Angela Martin episode.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, it is true. I mean, she gave Dwight a whole written out list. All he had to do was look at it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Exactly. Well, in this breakdown, we also talk about how the documentary crew pulled Jim and Pam into the conference room to show them footage that proves they're dating. And it got us wondering, why is the documentary crew getting involved when there's so many examples of them not getting involved? Well, Ashley S. Had a theory that I thought was interesting. Ashley says, I figured out why the crew intervened to force a romantic admission out of Jim and Pam while previously leaving Andy to float away at the lake. Guys, it is so obvious they are asking to get the scoop for their boy, Brian.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

Do you think? I mean, at this point, though, aren't they couples friends? No, because Jim and Pam aren't like a couple yet.

[Angela Kinsey]

So. So they're not a couple yet. And Pam Is single, I guess.

[Jenna Fischer]

But isn't Brian married? We don't know when Brian got married. I guess.

[Angela Kinsey]

We don't know. Okay. I mean, Ashley, I think it's a fun theory. It's kind of a stir in the pot kind of theory.

[Jenna Fischer]

It really is.

[Angela Kinsey]

All right, well, I wanted to address this question from Anna M. Anna says, why wasn't Angela's funeral lady in mourning garb mentioned as part of the wardrobe breakdown. It seems like the perfect missed opportunity. Hmm. Anna, you're so right. I can't believe I missed that costume breakdown. So here you go. Angela's morning outfit consists of a black silky camisole covered with a sheer black lace long sleeve blouse with black piping. It has a scrunched high collar and lots of tiny black buttons down the front. And the sleeves have this kind of scrunched poof at the end, like a poet's blouse. Pair that with a black skirt and an updo and there you have Angela's morning outfit.

[Jenna Fischer]

Such great detail by our costume department. Well, one last thing. I wanted to share this deleted Michael talking head because we're going to find out what famous philanthropist Michael says he looks like.

[Angela Kinsey]

This is really funny.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, the charity is having some financial problems. What do I look like to you? Paul Newman. That's actually not a good example because I have been compared to a young Paul Newman. My eyes and my face. And I make my own salad dressing. I mix Newman's Ranch with Newman's Italian, sell it at flea markets for a slight loss. I could make a profit if I changed one of the ingredients to wishbone. But I won't do it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Yeah, he looks like Paul Newman. He has a side hustle of selling mixed salad dressings at a flea market for a loss. What?

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean, lady, Paul Newman is known for his blue eyes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Piercing blue.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. I mean, Steve has like hazel y eyes.

[Angela Kinsey]

I mean, he has nice eyes.

[Jenna Fischer]

Sometimes they look green, sometimes they look brown. To me, they're not Paul Newman's eyes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, don't tell Michael that. But I feel like that's so true. You know, everyone has a friend who thinks they look like someone really famous. And you're like, I don't see it.

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean, it's so reminding me of the love is blind. And the poor woman who said that, people tell her that she looks like Megan Fox. And like the guy on the other side of the wall is like, loses his mind. Like he can never think of dating anyone else in the pods because he thinks he's going to leave with Megan Fox. And I mean, I get some of the resemblance, but I mean, yeah, I don't know what the comparison would be, but I mean, it's just like, it's a big leap.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay?

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean, like, you want to be accurate, especially when you're, like, dating, like in the pods. I mean, but like, I mean, this guy's eyes, like, they, like, literally like a cartoon, they're like ba Going like he can't, like, believe that he's about to hook up with Megan Fox.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, you know what? I want to see Michael Scott on Love is Blind.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, my God, yes, please. You know, there's a whole new season of Love is Blind that was just on, but I haven't watched it yet. I was in Chicago.

[Angela Kinsey]

Should I finally watch it? Should we watch it?

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean, maybe. I don't know. Like, the reunion has aired and I'm. I'm seeing all like the. The funny recreation videos on Instagram. I don't know any of the references. I'm having total fomo. But I don't know. You know, actually. Wait, what? Everyone needs to watch. I can't believe we haven't mentioned this is the paper, which is starting on NBC tonight.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my God, that is right. Holy crap. Okay, so wait, you guys, in case you didn't know, so. So Jenna just said it, but the paper's on NBC, like old school NBC, Monday nights at 8:30 Eastern, starting today. Right now?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes, it starts right now. November 10th, depending on when you're listening to this. So you can now watch it each week on NBC. It's Taylor Swift endorsed.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, My Swifties. Taylor Swift gave it a shout out. Twice. Twice.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, wow, Jenna, we've got lots of stuff to check out.

[Jenna Fischer]

I guess we do.

[Angela Kinsey]

All right, everyone, well, here's our second drink of Fun Run Part 2.

[Jenna Fischer]

I'm Jenna Fisher.

[Angela Kinsey]

And I'm Angela Kinsey.

[Jenna Fischer]

We were on the Office together and we're best friends. And now we're doing the ultimate Office Rewatch podcast just for you.

[Angela Kinsey]

Each week, we will break down an episode of the Office and give exclusive behind the scenes stories that only two people who were there can tell you.

[Jenna Fischer]

We're the Office. Ladies. On your mark, get set, go. Angela, it's a fun run.

[Angela Kinsey]

Wait, I got a carb load a bunch of fettuccine three seconds before I run.

[Jenna Fischer]

Good idea. That's not gonna turn on you.

[Angela Kinsey]

Give me the creamy carbs seconds before I take off on a huge adventure.

[Jenna Fischer]

Guys, it is Fun Run part two. This is the very beginning of season four. Written by Greg Daniels. Directed by Greg Daniels. Let me hit you up with a summary. Last week, Michael hit Meredith with his car, breaking her pelvis. And we discovered, though, that Meredith's trip to the hospital was may have saved her life since it was revealed she had possibly been exposed to rabies and has now received a vaccine. We also found out that Sprinkles died on Dwight's watch.

[Angela Kinsey]

On Dwight's watch.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, this week. This week, Michael organizes a fun run to raise money for rabies in honor of Meredith. And we find out what really happened to Sprinkles.

[Angela Kinsey]

Do you see what I'm wearing in honor of this episode?

[Jenna Fischer]

You're wearing your Office Lady Sprinkles sweatshirt.

[Angela Kinsey]

I am wearing my Sprinkles sweatshirt.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, lady, I did not wear anything in honor of Sprinkles sweatshirt.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, you know what, that tracks for Pam in this episode because she helps like Angela. Let's see. Zero amount. Zero amount.

[Jenna Fischer]

Sorry.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

She's distracted. Because in this episode it's also going to be revealed that Jim and Pam are dating.

[Angela Kinsey]

Listen, one thing I thought of when I watched this episode was, wow, Happy Pam is a sassy pam. She gives zero Fs about what's going on around her. She's a totally different person.

[Jenna Fischer]

Happy sass.

[Angela Kinsey]

Happy sass thing. Happy Pam sass.

[Jenna Fischer]

Happy Pam sass. Well, let's get into these fast facts. Fast fact number one. You know, this episode is technically the second part of the episode that we broke down last week. Right. Because these episodes were an hour long. But if you notice, I feel like these episodes really stand on their own. They kind of both had their own little plots. Right?

[Angela Kinsey]

For sure.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, I talked to Greg about that and he told me that Kevin Riley requested four hour long episodes to kick off season four. So the first four episodes of this season are all an hour long.

[Angela Kinsey]

Kevin loved our show. But. But was there any other reason besides he was like, I want more Office?

[Jenna Fischer]

I think it was just. That would be a big announcement in the press. The return of the Office four hour long episodes. Maybe. Also, they didn't have something for the other time slot, so we were filling two time slots. I'm speculating. I don't know.

[Angela Kinsey]

I like your speculating face and tone. Because my husband does this sometimes when he wants to let the kids down easy. Like it's like, hey, guys, so about those pumpkins that we were gonna get, they. They exploded from the heat. But yeah, well, I was excited that we got these big super sized episodes. It meant that for the supporting cast, some of our storylines would definitely stay in, and that was exciting.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. Well, Greg also told me that Kevin Riley told him they're only going to run in this hour long length once at the beginning of the season. Then we're going to have to rerun them later as half hours. And that's really why they stand alone. Greg said it was a challenge because he had to wrap up the first episode in a way that would make it satisfying for a future viewer to watch it in a half hour form. But he couldn't wrap it up too much for the people who were watching it as a one hour episode. He said it was kind of a writing challenge.

[Angela Kinsey]

That sounds like a challenge.

[Jenna Fischer]

I think he did it, though.

[Angela Kinsey]

I think he crushed it. Greg Daniels, you crushed it fast.

[Jenna Fischer]

Fact number two, lady, is a wardrobe breakdown with Carrie Bennett.

[Angela Kinsey]

I love me some Carrie Bennett.

[Jenna Fischer]

Let's hear it. We got so much mail about the wardrobe in this episode, which makes sense because we're seeing everybody out of their office attire, which Carrie said was always a challenge because she had created these office uniforms for people. So anytime we wore our quote unquote, street clothes, she was like, who are these people in their street clothes? Here's some of the mail we got. Alicia W. And Amanda Mitchenfelder said, did you get to keep your shirts from Fun Run? And Emily Thomas wants to know, did you get to keep a Support the Rabbit wristband? Yeah, I kept both. I kept my shirt and I kept my wristband.

[Angela Kinsey]

I had my wristband for a long time. It's probably somewhere in my scrapbook bin. My T shirt I did not keep. Carrie kept it in case we ever, um, needed Angela Martin to wear it again because we weren't sure how long this mourning process was going to go, you know?

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, we should remind people, Angela, you did not wear one of the famous blue Fun Run T shirts. You wore a shirt with a picture of sprinkles on it. Yeah, because people wrote in about this shirt, too. Angela, Molly C. And Isaiah Johnson asked, where did Angela's sprinkle shirt come from and did you get to keep it? You said you did not keep it.

[Angela Kinsey]

I did not keep it. And Carrie made that shirt. She had that shirt made. And also when I had my wardrobe fitting for this, Carrie and I talked, and Angela would not be in shorts. She would not wear shorts. So that's why I have sort of those little crop pants. And then at first they had Keds for me, and I was like, I can't run in kids. And I Have to actually run.

[Jenna Fischer]

So.

[Angela Kinsey]

So I need an actual sneaker. There you go. There you go.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, Carrie told me about those blue shirts, the famous blue shirts with all the writing on them. So she designed those. We made them ourselves. She said that she just tried to imagine Michael getting on the phone and ordering those T shirts with the ridiculously long name and insisting that all the words be on the shirt, which I think is a very funny way to approach that design.

[Angela Kinsey]

I mean, I thought it was perfect. And honestly, while we're talking about the shirt, what the heck kind of budget did they have for this? Not only did they have bracelets and those T shirts, they had flyers and banners. They had a giant Meredith photo poster and a giant check. What was their budget?

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean, we're going to see when we get to that scene in the conference room that we spend quite a bit of our donation money just throwing the fun run. Carrie also told me that she chose the color blue for the shirts because everybody had to wear it. And blue looks good on everyone. She said she always applies the same logic for photo shoots and promo shoots. Blue just looks best. That's right. Well, let's talk about Dwight. Fan question from Ella Lewis. Why isn't Dwight wearing a Fun Run shirt? I feel like he would have been the most likely to support Michael's ideas, yet he's wearing a Shrut Farms shirt instead of. I think it makes perfect sense that he would self advertise.

[Angela Kinsey]

I agree with Ella. I was surprised that Dwight would not just champion Michael the way he does.

[Jenna Fischer]

Kerry told me that she made this shirt. She literally just used a standard stencil and she spray painted it in that parking lot right before we started shooting. But after the episode aired, NBC marketing department got so many requests for that shirt that they called her and asked her for her art files so that they could mass produce it and sell it. And Carrie was like, don't have an art file.

[Angela Kinsey]

Have a spray painty thing that I made in the parking lot if you want to come get my spray paint stencil.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. She was like, okay. All right. Well, our final question about the clothing comes from Ian MP and Marina Blank. They're asking, is Michael wearing women's shorts for Fun Run?

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, man. They're definitely some kind of like biker short with like the little windbreaker short over it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. Carrie says, no, they were not women's shorts. She said the thing with Steve was that he's actually really fit. And Angela, you and I know this. He was really, really into fitness.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, he got into great shape. We've talked about that for 40 year old virgin. And then he has just made that part of his lifestyle. And I think in this episode, when he gets in his shorts and his T shirt, you can see how fit he is. There's no hiding how fit he is.

[Jenna Fischer]

He has like 0% body fat. And it's very clear. Carrie said it was really a challenge to make him look like Michael. Anytime he was out of his sort of frumpy Michael suit because he just was in such great shape. She said it was just kind of difficult. So there you go.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

That is a costume breakdown.

[Angela Kinsey]

I like it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Thank you so much.

[Angela Kinsey]

I like it.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right, fast fact number three. As you know, in this episode, Jim and Pam do not run. A lot of people run, but Jim and Pam do not. They walk. They go to an estate sale.

[Angela Kinsey]

Jim and Pam don't run. And Oscar and Stanley and Creed take a cab. But Jim and Pam do not run. They walk in the back. They hold hands.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, there was a reason for this.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know.

[Jenna Fischer]

The reason for this is because In May of 2007, we shot this in August. In May, I fell down a set of stairs in New York City and I fractured four bones in my back and I was not allowed to run. So the writers had to write a reason for me to only walk through this episode.

[Angela Kinsey]

That was such a scary night. I was with you.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know you were.

[Angela Kinsey]

That was so scary.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. So here's what happened. It was May, and we were in New York and we were promoting the Office. We were promoting the season finale, and they threw this big party in quotes party. It was a work event at this club called Budokan.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. It was our job to kind of hobnob with advertisers and stuff. It was. We were at work, but it was a fancy work.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. So we're all dressed up, and this club is two floors. So you enter on the upper floor, they had this little bar with drinks, and they were serving these, like, pineappley daiquiri things. And it was sweet. And I was like, this seems great. So I grabbed one. But then to get to kind of the main part of the event, you had to go down this long set of stairs that were marble and they were steep.

[Angela Kinsey]

You guys. They had a really deep pitch to them.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, they're still there. This club is still there. So I'm walking down these stairs. I've basically just arrived. I've taken one sip of my little daiquiri and something happens. My foot slips out from underneath me. And I go crashing down on the edge of these stairs. Hard to add insult to injury, I also threw my drink in my own face, so that was fun. So I'm sitting on the ground, I'm half covered in daiquiri, and I immediately start to feel like I'm gonna vomit or everything gets dizzy. And I remember this bouncer comes over and picked me up, and he was treating me like I was like a boozy, drunken Hollywood starlet. Like he was in no way regarding me with much care. It was like, get her out of there. Get the boozer out. And I was like, I'm not. I don't. But I was all disoriented, you know? So I remember they took me back to the storeroom, Angela. And you were there, and I told you I didn't feel good. And I remember you lifted up the back of my shirt and you said, call an ambulance.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, I was behind you on that staircase, and I saw you go down. It happened in slow motion. Someone had spilt their drink or something on those stairs, and they were marble and they were slick, and you had these wedge shoes on. You turned your ankle and you went down so hard. And you know when you're the person watching something happen, how you're like. Like I didn't know how to stop it. It was all in motion. And, yeah, I'll never forget that night, because your back was. It looked bad. And, yeah, I was scared.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, I don't remember much else after that. I don't remember the ambulance ride, but I know you were with me, Ang. And I remember going in and out at the hospital, and you were by my side the whole time, lady. I know you were there. And I remember they X rayed me. I remember you told me the guy in the bed next to me was handcuffed to his bed.

[Angela Kinsey]

There was a guy in a chair next to your bed, and they brought him in. He was real surly, and they handcuffed him to the chair. And I shut the little curtain around your bed because, oh, dear. And also, I was staying with you, and I was really adamant about it. You know, I was like, she has no family here. You. I am not, like, going anywhere. She's in an emergency room in a city that's not her own. She has no family. And I. You are stuck with me, buddy. So they. They didn't mess with me. And I stayed with you till 4 in the morning. We got you a hospital room, and we knew more details then. And once we got you set up in your room, I went, I was supposed to be on the Today show that morning with Rainn Wilson. We were supposed to be interviewed for the Office, and they had a whole piece about Dwight and Angela. And I asked NBC, you know, I was like, I'm supposed to be on the air in an hour, but I'm in a hospital room with my friend. I can't be there. And they said, don't worry, we'll let the Today show know. So years later, I'm at the White House Correspondents Dinner. I'm sitting at the NBC Today show table, and we talk about. We're just talking about, oh, when was the last time we saw you? And they were like, you were supposed to do the Today show with Rainn Wilson, and you were a no show. And I was like, what? I wasn't a no show. I was with Jenna in a hospital. Didn't they tell you that? They never told them. I just didn't.

[Jenna Fischer]

They never told them why you didn't show up? No. They just thought you were like a flaky actress. This night branded me in this bouncer's eyes as some boozed up actress. And then the Today show the next day, thought you were a flake. And we were like, no, tragedy. Tragedy happened.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. And I've done the Today show now since. But I was like, how many years did they just think I didn't show up?

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, my gosh. Well, you know, I'll never forget the doctor coming in and he said, the good news is you're gonna walk again.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my God.

[Jenna Fischer]

And I was like, that's the good. I mean, that is good news. But that sounds like there's a lot of bad news coming. So as it turns out, I had fractured four of the transverse vertebrae in my back. If you're gonna have a back injury, I guess this is the best one because they heal on their own, similar to a broken rib. And motion is the best thing for you. So. So even though walking and moving was really difficult for me, I was encouraged to do it. Here's a crazy twist to the story. You know, NBC had put us up at the Ritz Carlton for these two days that we were going to do press. They had a deal with the hotel, and the entire cast was put up at the Ritz Carlton. And remember, lady, we asked for adjoining.

[Angela Kinsey]

Rooms and we were so excited. Talk about country mouse come to town. We're at the Ritz, facing Central Park. Two whole nights. We were so excited.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, I couldn't go home. I couldn't leave. So NBC had to pay for me to live at the Ritz Carlton for two weeks.

[Angela Kinsey]

And guess what?

[Jenna Fischer]

What?

[Angela Kinsey]

For the first week, I was with you the whole time.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know you didn't leave my side.

[Angela Kinsey]

I didn't leave your side because you had family on the way. But, you know, they needed a few days to get there, and so I was there. And I just remember that time. And, you know, I think every friendship has these milestone moments that you're forever bonded by, and we've certainly had a few and best friends listening to this out there. You. You know those moments. This was one of those moments when you're helping your friend get on the toilet. Yep. And, Jenna, you did this for me after my C section. You helped me. Like, I remember this. These were. This was one of those BFF moments.

[Jenna Fischer]

We have both been with the other while one has had a catheter.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Do you need your friend to step out while I give you this catheter? Nah, she can.

[Jenna Fischer]

No, I'd actually prefer to hold her hand, please.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

I'd like someone here with me. Yeah. So anybody out there? If you're wondering why Angela and I are best friends and will be best friends forever. Friends who, Catherine, are together. Stay together. All right.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, man.

[Jenna Fischer]

My final piece of this story is simply that I couldn't shower for several days and my hair was so smelly. I'm sorry you had to live with that, Ang. That pineapple. It really turned real gross.

[Angela Kinsey]

I did wet a wash rag and try to dampen your hair with the wash rag.

[Jenna Fischer]

You did. You did. But anyway, guys, that's why Pam doesn't run in this episode. I was healed, but I don't think at this point I was driving myself yet, and I wasn't allowed to run.

[Angela Kinsey]

Your doctor had you on a very specific sort of recovery plan because you do not mess with the back. You don't mess around.

[Jenna Fischer]

But I'm fully healed now. No problems. No residual problems.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, I loved the storyline for Jim and Pam. I thought it made it just really sweet. Like, they just. They were just going to hang out. They weren't going to participate. And then they had this sort of lovely walk, and they got to hold hands, and I thought it worked out great.

[Jenna Fischer]

It worked.

[Angela Kinsey]

It worked.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, guys, thanks for listening to us go down that memory lane. We'll take a break, and we'll be back to really dive into this episode.

[Angela Kinsey]

I have a great Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade story. Do you want to hear it?

[Jenna Fischer]

What is it?

[Angela Kinsey]

When I was interning on Conan o', Brien, Ages ago. You know, they would close some of the roads for the parade. When I was walking to work, I rounded this corner to a street that would normally be a hustle and bustle of people. And there were no cars on it, barely any people, and just all of the big balloon parade float thingies.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, in honor of the parade, Macy's is doing their Parade of Deals. They've got all kinds of great deals. You can get that Dyson Big Ball canister vacuum. Yeah, I'm sorry, is your mom thread not blowing up about this thing? All the moms are about this thing.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes, it is, actually.

[Jenna Fischer]

They've got 30 to 40% off fragrances from Marc Jacobs and Gucci. I mean, I could go on and on.

[Angela Kinsey]

They also have deals on the classic Ugg fluff throw. I love this throw.

[Jenna Fischer]

So listen, this November, take a second and check out all the deals on Macy's Parade of Deals. Shop now@macy's.com or in store. The holidays are coming up. That means a lot of people travel over the holidays, right?

[Angela Kinsey]

A lot. I mean, Thanksgiving is the most traveled holiday in the United States. I believe. I believe.

[Jenna Fischer]

I believe that is true, yes. Okay, well, how about this idea? While you're away, why don't you host your place on Airbnb and make some.

[Angela Kinsey]

Moolah, and then also you're going to have some money for holiday shopping. How about that?

[Jenna Fischer]

I like how you transitioned that into shopping lady.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, here is who this is a perfect fit for. If you're someone who travels frequently, if you have extra space, maybe you're someone that has a seasonal home, or maybe you always go away at the same time of year for, like, a family tradition or work event. This is a practical way to earn money. While you're doing all those things, your.

[Jenna Fischer]

Home might be worth more than you think. Find out how [e-mail] Host lady, our best friendship has gone to a new place. You loved your cozy sofa sleeper so much that I now have one. I know. You influenced me.

[Angela Kinsey]

I did. We are now BFFs that add it to our list. We have the same sofa.

[Jenna Fischer]

We do. I got mine in the green color, though. And I love it, lady. I also got one of their rugs. You know they have rugs.

[Angela Kinsey]

I got a rug, too.

[Jenna Fischer]

And it's washable.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. And it came with that pad that makes it so soft.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. Well, I haven't shared this before, but when we were potty training Maggie, we crated her in my office and she would pee on my rug and now that's the one place that she would always go. So I got rid of that rug, and I now have my cozy rug, which is now washable. I'm very excited.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Cozy makes furnishing your home easy. By furnishing your home with cozy, you don't just get your dream living space, but endless possibilities and peace of mind.

[Angela Kinsey]

Transform your living space today with cozy. Visit c o z e-y.com Cozy, the home of possibilities made easy.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay, we are back. This episode opens with Pam answering the phone. Michael Scott's Dunder Mifflin Scranton Meredith Palmer Memorial Celebrity Rabies awareness Fun run race for the cure. But it's, you know, it's the pro am race for the cure.

[Angela Kinsey]

My favorite thing about that whole moment was how you delivered. They hung up. It's so good. It's so good.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, we got some fan questions about this from Gabriel B. Frank F. Kalos D. Alberto R. And Camille Y. Jenna. Did you have to memorize that long title for the fun run race for the cure, or did you look at a piece of paper every time you said it? No, you guys, I had to memorize that. But I did have it sitting on a piece of paper in front of me. Like, I would look at it intensely because that is a mouthful. That is a lot to have to say.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

But I did memorize it for that scene.

[Angela Kinsey]

And. And it's a mouthful that doesn't make sense. Like, for me, I can memorize something if it makes sense. My brain will piece it together for me. But if it's just like a list, you have to work at it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, that is more difficult, for sure.

[Angela Kinsey]

Like, I. There's no way I could have ever been one of those doctors on ER or whatever. Like on Grey's Anatomy where they're running down the hallway and they got someone on the stretcher and they're like, we need three BPUs and the get the suture sew it up.

[Jenna Fischer]

I think that all the time, when I watch those shows all the time, I think, like, they're just yelling out jargon.

[Angela Kinsey]

They have no idea what they're saying.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, then Michael has an amazing talking head that I really love where he lets us know that a woman should not have to be hit by a car to learn that she has rabies. But here we are.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, you know what, Michael is there fighting for women once again?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes, exactly. Well, then we go out into the bullpen. We're panning around. People are, I guess, on the phones, kind of phone banking, trying to get donations for this cause.

[Angela Kinsey]

He has the whole office doing this. It's unbelievable that any of us had a job after this day. And I love that he walked up and said, hi, Stankley. Like, when is Michael going to learn you can't do bits with Stanley? Stanley doesn't want your bits.

[Jenna Fischer]

He doesn't. He is. Stanley is a bit free person.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, don't bring your bits to Stanley.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, Phyllis is hard at work on the rabies quilt. She holds it up.

[Angela Kinsey]

How many quilts does this company make? I mean, I felt like this was a callback to the depression quilt from safety training. Any wonder Dwight was like, should we do a depression quilt? And Michael's like, no, no time to sew the quilt. Because clearly it's a thing.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's a thing.

[Angela Kinsey]

Put Phyllis on it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, we had a fan question from Mary Halsey. Who made the rabies quilt? Well, guys, it was Phil Shea. I mean, he didn't personally make it, but he had to get someone to make those squares.

[Angela Kinsey]

And.

[Jenna Fischer]

And if you want to buy it, there is a full size version of the quilt online.

[Angela Kinsey]

Get out. Get out.

[Jenna Fischer]

Rabies quilt. The office people are making them. You can buy them.

[Angela Kinsey]

I am going to Google that. I want to see it. You know, my mom's a quilter. You know.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes, Angela. In my notes for today, I literally wrote, angela, your mom quilts. I have several pieces of your mom's quilting.

[Angela Kinsey]

My mom is old school type of quilter where, you know, no machine. She cuts out all the pieces and then she like makes her pattern. She'll use like one of the bedrooms in the house and then she sews that all by hand and she'll do the backing sometimes, you know, with the machine. But she actually purchased in Pennsylvania years and years ago from an Amish family, a wooden quilt rack and every peg. Everything is wooden. There's no metal screws or anything. And she puts her quilt top on there and quilts and I feel like every single one is a piece of art.

[Jenna Fischer]

Since we're talking about quilting, I want to bring up this artist that I love, Bisa Butler. She makes these huge life size quilted portraits that I'm slightly obsessed with. Go to her Instagram page. It's Bisa Butler. They look like paintings, but they're not.

[Angela Kinsey]

I'm going to look at it right now.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay. Look at it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my gosh. They're beautiful.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. I just love her work. Lady. I love it. I can't wait to see it in person one day.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's beautiful. It's art.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's gorgeous. And she was featured in the New York Times as well. She had this. I mean, she's all over the place. She's a big deal. But check it out. Bisa Butler on Instagram.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, you know, we're about to move on to an Andy talking head here about nipple chafing, but did you notice Andy is now sitting at Karen's desk?

[Jenna Fischer]

I did.

[Angela Kinsey]

And also, we didn't mention this last week, but when Karen cleared out, did she take the company phone and the computer? Like, I don't. Everything was gone.

[Jenna Fischer]

Everything. It was all gone. Yeah. Well, we had a fan question about Andy's nipple chafing from Lindsay L. Who said. Who came up with the nipple chafing idea? Was it based off of a personal experience? Well, Greg told me that this was an idea from Justin Spitzer. So I asked him about it, and he said, yes, this was his idea and that he had once handed out waters and blankets to runners who were finishing the Chicago Marathon. And he could not believe how many men were crossing the finish line with blotches of blood on their shirts over their nipples from nipple chafing. He said it sort of. It shocked him and haunted him, and he had been obsessed with it ever since. And he was finally able to write it into an episode. So I think this was very healing for him.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's a real.

[Jenna Fischer]

He was able to take this experience and turn it into art.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, it's a real thing. And of course, I looked it up. Jenna. It's also called Jogger's Nipple. Oh, I had no idea it was such a thing. And it's more common in the winter because nipples are erect then. But there's many ways to prevent it. And one of them is sort of like covering them like this. And there are all kinds of companies that make these. And now there's nipple covers for women. Like, when you don't want your nipples to show in clothing. You know, we've had wardrobe fittings where sometimes they're like, oh, we might need to put something there. But there's a whole other industry for men. And, you know, I love a good name, Jenna. For businesses, I love it. So we've got a few that I found were nip ease. Mr. Nip Nip Strips.

[Jenna Fischer]

Wow. Well, I imagine, I guess because men have hairier chests. Like, what I noticed when Ed was, like, covering his nipples was I just kept thinking, what happens when he tries to take that off because of the hair? Will these companies solve that problem for me? I guess if I'm a man.

[Angela Kinsey]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Jenna Fischer]

Mr. Nip. Was that one of them?

[Angela Kinsey]

Mr. Nip and Nip strips.

[Jenna Fischer]

Nippies, maybe the Nip strips.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, I remember talking to Ed about, like, those. That tape and cotton ball thing that he had to do, and he said it was really uncomfortable. This was not a comfortable episode for him.

[Jenna Fischer]

I don't doubt it. I don't doubt it. Well, lady, now Andy is going to tell Angela how very sorry he is that her cat passed away. This might be leading her maybe toward Andy.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. You know, there's a deleted scene where Dwight and Angela are exchanging instant messages, and Dwight's trying to make amends, and Angela's not having it. She's getting fed up. And she looks over her shoulder towards Dwight, and Andy is directly behind him, and he thinks Angela is looking at him.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh.

[Angela Kinsey]

So I think they're planting little seeds here.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, now you have a talking head, Angela, where you are crying and you're talking about how Sprinkles was your best friend. And you're sharing pictures of Sprinkles because you're including one from the last Halloween.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Where you're just a couple of kittens out on the town.

[Angela Kinsey]

A couple of kittens out on the town.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, lady, we got some mail about this.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. About the photos.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. From Kate Sieber, Mandy Pascal, and Ann Marie Morrison. Did you have to do a photo shoot, or did they just photoshop a cat into your arms?

[Angela Kinsey]

I did a little bit of both. So if you'll notice a few of the photos, like, in particular, there's the picnic blanket one. I'm laying on a picnic blanket. There's a bowl of grapes, and I'm holding the cat. If you notice, I am wearing my outfit from beach games. Oh, yeah, right. So there's a few photos of me in my beach games outfit. Well, Phil Shay pulled me aside and was like, angela, we're gonna need some photos of you with sprinkles for an upcoming episode. So. So that day where we started out for beach games, on the bus in the parking lot, Phil Shea just said, angela, I'm gonna grab you when I can. And we'll just quickly take these. Okay. So the day that we started beach games, before we went to the beach, you know, when we were still leaving Dunder Mifflin, I snuck off with Phil Shea, and we took a bunch of those, and I walked over in my own flip flops, and you can see them in the photo. That's why I'm barefoot Isn't that weird that Angela Martin would be barefoot with the pair of flip flops? And you can see a little eagle on the flip flops because they're American eagle. They're my American Eagle flip flops.

[Jenna Fischer]

That is incredible. Well, I loved you in this talking head so much. You're so good in this whole episode, Ange.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, thanks. Thanks so much. Well, up next, Jenna, we have the scene. It starts at 2402. And I titled this scene the Moment the Crew Turned On Us. Sam, can you play this? I'm having relationship problems. And since you're always having relationship problems, I thought you'd be able to give me some advice.

[Jenna Fischer]

What's wrong?

[Angela Kinsey]

I have this crazy thought that I know is crazy that maybe Dwight killed my cat. When I got home, Sprinkle's body was in the freezer where Dwight said he left her. But all my bags of frozen French fries had been clawed to shreds, so something's not right. The vet's doing an autopsy.

[Jenna Fischer]

Angela, I'm sorry.

[Angela Kinsey]

Did Roy ever kill one of your cats?

[Jenna Fischer]

I'm more of a dog person.

[Angela Kinsey]

Jenna, do you remember us doing that scene?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

We gotta break it down for people. Because literally the director came over and was like, I'm just gonna stop you right now.

[Jenna Fischer]

It was Greg.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know, I know. So I had to pop up over the partition and I start off with like. And then you.

[Jenna Fischer]

That got me right there. I was done. I just started laughing. Just from your head popping over the partition, started laughing. No words have come out yet.

[Angela Kinsey]

And every single time you started laughing, then I would start laughing. And then there were times I would get it together and I'd come up over the partition and you'd already be laughing.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, because I knew what was I knew there. Angela, you have to imagine from my point of view what it's like to have your tiny blonde head pop up suddenly. It's very funny. And we should also mention this scene was scheduled right before lunch.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. And everyone was really hungry.

[Jenna Fischer]

You're always really hungry before lunch because you get called into work at 5am, 6am, but lunch is not until 1, so you are hangry at 1240. Everybody on a set is super hangry at 1240. Even though they're snacks. You want to sit down, you want your 30 minute break, you want to eat a hot meal. And here you have these two actresses who cannot even get one line out.

[Angela Kinsey]

These two gals who are literally laughing so hard they can't speak. And Greg was like, why don't we Take a break. Why don't we give you guys a minute to get it together? And I said, oh, no, Jenna, they're turning on us.

[Jenna Fischer]

And, like, I felt so bad because normally when we would break in a scene, the crew was laughing with you.

[Angela Kinsey]

And other actors would laugh too and be like, you guys. No one was laughing.

[Jenna Fischer]

No, it was just us. We were so tickled to have a scene together. We always were. And this was a comedic scene we got to do. This was funny.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. And I'm surprised we even have one take that's usable because we were laughing so hard. And now let's just take a minute to talk about happy Pam Sass. Because happy Pam doesn't give Angela anything. She's like, oh, can you imagine Angela finally reaching out to Pam, and all she gets is, well, I'm more of a dog person. Are you flipping kidding me?

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, Angela, what do you expect? Anytime Pam has ever tried to comfort or help Angela, Angela just insults her. I think Pam is being self protective. She's having good boundaries, in my opinion.

[Angela Kinsey]

She's got good boundaries and she's getting laid, and she doesn't have time for anybody anymore.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God. That is private. Well, Angela, I will say this. We have a fan soap box, and I think you're going to like it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, I want to hear it.

[Jenna Fischer]

This is from Amy Wagner, Rivka Wasserman, Kayla Kelly, Kalyn White, and Christina Chadbourne. They all wrote in to say this. I hate to break it to you, but Pam is actually responsible for the death of Sprinkles and the breakup of Dwangela. Pam guilts Angela into seeing Meredith at lunch instead of taking care of Sprinkles, which is why Angela has to ask Dwight to do it and why Sprinkles ends up dead.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my gosh, ladies. I had never put that together. You are right. Pam killed Sprinkles.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, that's going a little far, Pam. But Pam killed Sprinkles. Oh, my gosh. You are so mad at Pam right now. Pam is just happy. Why, when Pam gets happy, does everyone turn on her? That's something I've noticed. By the way, when Pam becomes assertive, there in particular are a bunch of men on Twitter who tweet about how they don't like Pam Sassy. Nobody likes assertive Pam. Well, everyone. You're gonna have to live with it.

[Angela Kinsey]

I don't give a crap about assertive Pam. It's sassy Pam guilt trip Pam. I don't give a shit Pam, that I Have issue with.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, I thought you'd like that fan soapbox.

[Angela Kinsey]

I very much like it. Ladies. Thank you. I feel seen.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, speaking of Jim and Pam, they're flirting in the break room right now.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, I titled this scene. Ready?

[Jenna Fischer]

What is it?

[Angela Kinsey]

Part two of our country song Ain't no more Heartbreak in the break room, baby.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. Yes. Happy times in the break room, everyone.

[Angela Kinsey]

Happy times.

[Jenna Fischer]

While the camera crew breaks the fourth wall and they bring Jim and Pam into the conference room and show them footage.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Of them kissing and driving away. This is huge. Why is the documentary crew getting involved? Remember they left Andy floating in a lake, but they pull Jim and Pam aside to show them this footage?

[Angela Kinsey]

They didn't say, meredith, get out of the way.

[Jenna Fischer]

I don't think they saw Meredith. They were focused on Michael. I don't think the documentary crew could have stopped that accident.

[Angela Kinsey]

You know, I mean, there's been many times where they probably should have stepped in and they didn't. Why now?

[Jenna Fischer]

I don't know. But they get Pam to admit that she and Jim are dating.

[Angela Kinsey]

This is another Pam sass moment where she doesn't care. She's like, you know what? We're dating.

[Jenna Fischer]

This is such a cute scene.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's so cute.

[Jenna Fischer]

It has all the feels.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's really cute. And you and John are so good in it. It's a really great jam. Jam moment.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, we had a fan question from Linea B who said, what was it like coming back from the break between season three and four to a new relationship between Jim and Pam? You guys, it was awesome. I had a great time in season four. Pam was happy. I was happy. I just spent all day being happy in a comedy, basically, because I don't know about you, Angela, but I was going to ask you. You have to play this season in a lot of emotional turmoil and mourning. And it takes a toll when you have to play jealousy or you have to play sad. Like. It does take a toll.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, it does. Playing sad takes a toll. Playing angry is fun. Yeah, I will say that because I loved the juxtaposition from this very sweet, cute moment with Jim and Pam to me body checking Dwight by the file cabinet. It's so great. And that whole scene that I have with rain over by accounting where I'm backing my chair into him. We had such a great time with that. That was so much fun.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, that is a really good scene. Dwight seems to think you're gonna feel better after you run the 5k because exercise helps with depression and you're Just like you're not getting it. I'm not depressed.

[Angela Kinsey]

I'm pissed off.

[Jenna Fischer]

You're grieving.

[Angela Kinsey]

I'm grieving and I'm angry.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. So now we go into the conference room. Angela, Jim, Michael, Pam, and Dwight are putting sort of the finishing touches on the fun run plans. And Michael wants a giant check.

[Angela Kinsey]

What is this thing with giant checks? He got a giant check in Product Recall.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Angela Kinsey]

I think. I swear. I think it goes back to when he was a little kid and that owl came to his assembly in a costume with props. This is how you get people's attention, how you get them to care about things. You have big props and costumes and outfits.

[Jenna Fischer]

Why have we not explored Michael's feelings about Carrot Top, the most famous prop comic?

[Angela Kinsey]

I think he loves Carrot Top, and I think he loves. Who's the guy that hit all the watermelons?

[Jenna Fischer]

Gallagher.

[Angela Kinsey]

Gallagher.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, I think you're right. Well, here's what he wants. He wants a giant check even though it will eat up 25% of their funds. He wants a rabies doctor to present the check.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Jim suggests maybe they hire a nurse, like, by the hour, like you would for a party. Michael's like, sounds great. Dwight suggests they just donate the money to Meredith's son's college fund.

[Angela Kinsey]

Dwight is the only person making sense in this meeting.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. Surprisingly, Dwight has the best idea. Jim and Pam are just egging Michael.

[Angela Kinsey]

On, but Michael's like, have you seen that kid? He's not going to college.

[Jenna Fischer]

Exactly.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, I think we should take a break here, Jenna. And when we come back, we might need to talk about a dangling participle.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's an accidental flashing.

[Angela Kinsey]

He did say come in.

[Jenna Fischer]

I agree. Yes. All right, we'll be back.

[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

Well, you haven't even talked about the envelopes, Angela.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my gosh.

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

I know, right?

[Jenna Fischer]

And Amy Poehler?

[Angela Kinsey]

I know. I'M on their website right now looking at it. I mean, they have an acting and performing arts category. They have so many categories. Art and design, business and entrepreneurship, community and government, film and tv, food and drink, games and digital, media, health and wellness, Music, science, technology. They have so many categories.

[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

Jenna, how did you film this? How did. Okay, so Pam is, you know, like going in to tell Michael something. Right. She knocks on the door.

[Jenna Fischer]

She wants to tell him that 5k means 5km, not 5,000 miles.

[Angela Kinsey]

Right?

[Jenna Fischer]

Right.

[Angela Kinsey]

And he says, come in. And she opens the door and he's decided to change into his running outfit in his office.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. And he is nude from the waist down. And Pam is shocked. Well, this was a really interesting scene to film. We had a fan question from Tara Nunez. When Pam walks in on Michael naked, what was Steve actually wearing? Steve was actually wearing like a flesh colored Speedo.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's still not pleasant to look at, guys. Those reactions are honest. Whenever anyone has to wear a flesh covered anything, it's just off putting.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. You kind of look like a, like a Ken doll or a Barbie doll or something. It's very weird. You still are seeing outlines. Right. Anyway, the thing that was difficult here when we were shooting it and we shot this several times because Pam has to get far enough into the room and open the door wide enough that the camera can see Michael. Because in my early takes of this, I can see him. But the camera wasn't catching it because I was reacting too quickly.

[Angela Kinsey]

You're pulling the door shut too fast.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. So the first thing that we did was Greg said, why don't you be looking at the paper longer and like give a look to camera as you're opening the door. Like, can you believe he thinks it's 5,000 miles so that I can get the door open wider for camera to see him almost before I see him. So that's how we ended up fixing that problem. But it was very, very funny we were laughing a lot during this scene, lady.

[Angela Kinsey]

After this aired, a friend of mine and I were talking about this episode, and I'll never forget it because I heard a term I'd never heard before in my life. And they said, this is a thing sometimes guys will do. I don't know where they do it, but it's called shirt cocking.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh.

[Angela Kinsey]

And it's a thing. Okay. And if you look it up, it says it's a shirt cocking is a verb. And it's when a man wears a T shirt but goes naked from the waist down.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh.

[Jenna Fischer]

Listen to this.

[Angela Kinsey]

This practice is a natural outgrowth of Burning man. Events which value radical self expression but are held in clothing optional environments.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh.

[Angela Kinsey]

Mm.

[Jenna Fischer]

I've never been to Burning Man.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, neither have I, but apparently this happens there, guys.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, I've never been shirt cocked either.

[Angela Kinsey]

I've never. I've. I've never been shirt cocked. But beware. It happens.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's a thing.

[Angela Kinsey]

I guess it's a thing in. In the desert, guys, where people get together to have radical experiences.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, Michael Shircock's Pam and Pam tells Jim that the incident is now burned into her brain.

[Angela Kinsey]

Back in the break room. Jim and Pam don't hang out at front reception anymore. They just go to the break room to hang out and have their little conversations.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. Happiness in the break room. The break room is a great place now. Well, Michael knocks on the break room door and enters. He's trying to teach Pam how to properly enter a room.

[Angela Kinsey]

Can I come in?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

And Pam is like, you said, come in. You said come in.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, Pam has a major Pam sass moment. She says, I didn't see where it started, but I saw where it ended.

[Jenna Fischer]

Wow.

[Angela Kinsey]

I couldn't believe that line.

[Jenna Fischer]

Wow. Pam is really just saying anything on her mind now. You're really. I see. You're right. Yeah. She's looking up celebrity porn on the computer. She's sassing Angela. She's sassing Michael.

[Angela Kinsey]

She's not gonna run in your stupid fun run.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's true. Let's get to the fun run, lady.

[Angela Kinsey]

Let's do it.

[Jenna Fischer]

We're in the parking lot. Jan is checking people in. Creed registers. He's very disappointed. There's no prize money.

[Angela Kinsey]

We find out, by the way, that Creed's birthday is November 1st and he's gonna be 82.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know. I'm so ridiculous. That was so ridiculous.

[Angela Kinsey]

Jan tells Pam to stay away from her man. Heard she was peeping in on him.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know. Oh, that Was so fun to do. I love doing that scene with Molora where she's just putting Pam in her place. And Pam is like, I. But you know, guys, Jan is no longer our boss.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

She holds no authority over us. She is just there as Michael's girlfriend.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, I have to tell you something. So all of this is happening while you have this scene between Pam and Jan going on. There is a scene between Bob, Vance, Phyllis and Angela. So in the background where Toby is stretching, Angela's standing there, and Phyllis and Bob walk up and Bob points to her shirt and says, oh, oh, is that. Is that the cat? And he turns to Phyllis and says, is that the one that Meredith? And Phyllis quickly cuts him off and goes, no, no, no. And then Angela spits on Bob.

[Jenna Fischer]

What?

[Angela Kinsey]

And storms off.

[Jenna Fischer]

What is happening in that scene? Did Meredith do something to one of your other cats?

[Angela Kinsey]

I have so many questions. What has Meredith done to one of her cats? It certainly might explain why Angela really does not like Meredith. But man, Angela is. Talk about angry. She says spits at Bob.

[Jenna Fischer]

Wow.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, now Michael welcomes everyone and he gives a speech where he sort of warns everybody of the dangers of rabies. In the background, then Daryl is feeding a peanut to a squirrel. It was such. That is such a random funny joke. That's a very Simpsons esque joke if you ask me.

[Angela Kinsey]

I loved it. And I love. Michael was like, stop. And he's like, but he's so happy.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, then we have Elizabeth the stripper is back. Jackie de Botton, she walks in in this little nurse's outfit to present Michael with the giant check made out to science. Just science.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

$340 to science.

[Angela Kinsey]

Just a piece of cardboard that cost $200 for nothing.

[Jenna Fischer]

And when Michael sees Elizabeth in her outfit, he's like, oh, my gosh. You went back for your degree?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Amazing. Well, I have a little wardrobe tidbit.

[Angela Kinsey]

I think I know your tidbit.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, really?

[Angela Kinsey]

Go. All right.

[Jenna Fischer]

Carrie told me that this nurse's outfit was custom made. And if you notice, she had to make it a red circle with a white cross in the middle. And this is because the red cross does not like their symbol to be used for fictional content. So she could not have a red cross in a white circle. She had to invert it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes, lady. Well, do you know that that is the same costume that Angela Martin wore in season seven? They saved that costume. Season seven, the Halloween episode where we have a costume contest. I wore that outfit. What? Yep. I wore that outfit the exact same One and it was a little too big for me so I had to wear a little lace tank top underneath it. And you know, we'll, we'll get to season seven, but they gave me the chicken cutlets to make everything a little bigger.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yep.

[Angela Kinsey]

Same costume.

[Jenna Fischer]

Wow. I guess in our Dunder Mifflin world this is like a little costume that you could buy. I guess. But Carrie Bennett told me that she made it. There it is. You're wearing it and you can see.

[Angela Kinsey]

It'S this same white cross, the same hat. I just have a tank top because it's a little big.

[Jenna Fischer]

That is crazy.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know. Crazy.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, speaking of crazy, Michael is now downing some fettuccine Alfredo. Just down downing it. He's carbo loading before the run. Is that a thing? Do people carbo load? They do, but like not moments before they run. Right.

[Angela Kinsey]

I looked it up. There's two things happening in this moment. First of all, we have a fakie bag. Catch. Fakie bag. Fakie prop bag. That bag that Dwight is holding is not a real bag. It's one of the ones that doesn't make noise. And here's the thing about carbo loading. So guys, this is something that people will do, but it's recommended that you do it the week before a high. The week before? Yeah. A week before a high endurance activity. Yeah. The reason why you do this carbal load the week before is to boost the glycogen that's stored in your muscles.

[Jenna Fischer]

Right.

[Angela Kinsey]

So you can sort of burn on that while you're doing your high endurance activity. You don't do it minutes before.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's so gross.

[Angela Kinsey]

So gross.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's so gross. A lot of people wrote in asking how much fettuccine Steve had to eat. Pretty much none. I don't know if you noticed, but we cut away before he has to really swallow the fettuccine. They had a bucket there. So he would shove a bunch in his mouth and he would spit it out.

[Angela Kinsey]

Thank God, because It was almost 100 degrees that week every day. And we were outside, hot outside eating fettuccine.

[Jenna Fischer]

Can we talk about the ginormous gun that Dwight shoots off to start the race? Not a starter's pistol, an actual gun with actual bullets in it. Obviously we shot off blanks, but what the heck.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know. So according to Dundropedia, Dwight uses a 6 inch Colt Anaconda and it's the same caliber gun used by Dirty Harry.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, it's ridiculous.

[Angela Kinsey]

I believe though that he would have some gun that Clint Eastwood Fired like a dirty, hairy gun. That tracks.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's perfect for his character. Well, the race is underway. We fired this gun. Creed, Stanley, and Oscar immediately get into a cab.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Which is amazing. Stanley says he will work out today. He will work out a way to avoid running for a stupid cause.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, they all three have talking heads and deleted scenes that talk about why they're not doing it. Stanley had an alt that said when he runs, his feet swell up to the size of a pot roast. And you don't want to see that.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, well, Angela Martin certainly would not. She does not like gross feet. No. Well, we sort of see everybody's approach. Right. Like, Andy's gonna run. Michael's going really fast. And this is when we find out that Pam and Jim are happily in last time place together, just strolling.

[Angela Kinsey]

Andy's gonna draft behind Kevin.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, now we have a scene that I love so much where Jan is handing out water to the runners. She's somehow moved from the starting line where she was checking people in to a new table where she's handing out waters, and people haven't even gotten to her yet. I found that interesting. Yeah, she obviously drove. I guess she quickly drove. Well, Michael refuses to take the water. He explains that rabies victims have to live with an irrational hatred of water, so it's really the least he can do to refuse the water. Well, I looked it up, Angela. You know, last week I told you a lot about rabies and the importance of getting a shot if you're ever bitten by an animal.

[Angela Kinsey]

Hey, I did not look it up. In fact, I wrote myself a note. Ask Jenna, rabies expert, Is this true?

[Jenna Fischer]

No, you did not. I. I have to say, I do know a lot more about rabies than I ever thought I would, thanks to this podcast. But this condition is called hydrophobia, and it is an irrational fear of water. And it does present itself in the advanced stages of the disease of rabies. But here's why. Basically, patients start to fear liquids because it is so painful to swallow. Like, they don't want to drink or eat anything. So it's not like having water touch them would bother them. But ingesting anything becomes so painful that. That's why.

[Angela Kinsey]

This is horrible. This is horrible.

[Jenna Fischer]

Rabies is a horrible disease. I cannot stress enough how important it is to get that shot if you are bitten by an animal.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, we also didn't mention that Toby ran by and took a swig of water, but threw most of it on Jan.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes, this is true. Well, Toby's doing great. And we're about to find out why Michael is not doing well. Because of the fettuccine.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

But Dwight tells him he's going to be fine. You'll probably still win because he put Imodium in Toby's coffee.

[Angela Kinsey]

Michael's so excited, he's like egg cellent. And then goes, wait, don't you mean xlocks?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. Dwight has helped Toby.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

I want to point something out about this scene. During this scene, I swear, Michael and Dwight run past Oscar's house, or at least the location that we used for Oscar's house. So I looked it up, and yes, we are filming on the same street in Sherman Oaks that has Oscar's house. We filmed there a lot. It was really close to our set. And yeah, I think we run past the location of Oscar's house.

[Angela Kinsey]

We film there a lot for all those reasons. And also, this particular neighborhood in Sherman Oaks has really great old, old huge trees that might resemble the east coast more than normally what LA would look like.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Meanwhile, Andy's nipples are starting to chafe. And Creed, Stanley and Oscar are at, like, an outside cafe. They've ordered another round of drinks. I like their style.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. And Pam and Jim are now going to stop at an estate sale.

[Angela Kinsey]

I love estate sales. My mom. This makes me think of my mom whenever we went anywhere, any kind of road trip, if we saw a sign that said yard sale, garage sale, estate sale, my mom would literally pull off the road.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, in my sophomore year of college, I got my own apartment. And the summer before I went back to school, my mom took me around to estate sales and garage sales. And that's where I bought all of my dishes and my pots and pans and all the stuff I was going to need for my kitchen. And I still have some of that stuff. I still have a baking dish from one of the garage sales that we went to in order to get all my stuff for college.

[Angela Kinsey]

I still have a little piece of, like, kitchen art. It's like a pear and some grapes, and it's like someone made this. Someone made the image and then got a piece of wood and then shellacked over it. Do you know what I mean? Yes. And it's this sort of kitschy little piece of kitchen art. And I got it at a garage sale. I love, love that I did that, too.

[Jenna Fischer]

I love estate sales and garage sales because I think they're such a great way to recycle and reuse. You know, you don't have to buy everything new when someone's done with It. Use it. I love that.

[Angela Kinsey]

I love that, too. I always love the idea of what that story was like, what did that green bowl with that one little chip? What was that about? Now I'm going to have it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes, I agree.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, now I love that. Ryan and fancy corporate calls Dunder Mifflin and no one is answering. And he gets this message that says, you've reached the offices of Dunder Mifflin Scranton. Currently, the entire staff is out doing the Michael Scott DMSM PMC Rabies Awareness Pro Am Fun Run Race. And then Michael chimes in. That's all your voice. And Michael chimes in and goes for the cure. And then Pam says, leave a message. I thought it was hilarious. I thought it was so funny. And Ryan is like, ugh.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, you know, Michael was just hovering over Pam's shoulder as she created that outgoing message.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my goodness. I would love to have seen how many, like, ways that he made her say it until they got it right.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, now lady Dwight is going to try to sweet talk Angela.

[Angela Kinsey]

He is. He runs up next to her, tells her she looks cute as a button. She's not. She's not into it. She doesn't want to hear it. And there were a lot of things that made this scene a little trickier than it looks. We had to deliver all of our dialogue while running, but we couldn't run so fast that you would never see Steve, who was positioned just behind us, in between us. We couldn't run too close to one another, and we had to pace this out because the camera was getting us in the foreground and Michael in the background.

[Jenna Fischer]

I imagine it was difficult. Also, we only had so much sidewalk.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, we had a specific place we had to stop, too, on the sidewalk. And we had to try to hit that same mark every time because then we see the neighbor and we have this great moment that I love where we're like, it's nothing. And Dwight's like, I'm robbing her. And I'm like, it's fine. And then at the same time, we're like, it's nothing. And then we go right back to our conversation we were having.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, we had a fan question from Steph Bailey and Debbie K. Kind of more of a statement. Angela, for not being a runner, you have really great form.

[Angela Kinsey]

Do I?

[Jenna Fischer]

I thought so, too. I thought you were a very cute runner.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, thank you. I mean, I ran cross country in high school, you guys. Maybe somewhere in the back of my brain, it was a. Still there.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, there you go. When Were you running cross country while also playing basketball and trombone? I don't understand.

[Angela Kinsey]

And tennis and. I was a cheerleader. I was busy in high school, Jenna. This was my mom's attitude, was, if you're busy, you don't have time for trouble.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, you were busy.

[Angela Kinsey]

I was very busy.

[Jenna Fischer]

I also want to read you this letter from Patrick Wright.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

Because I agree with Patrick. Here's what Patrick had to say. I really wanted to express my respect for Angela as an actress, especially in this episode. She is a mixture of tragically funny and also just heartbreaking. She gives such a fabulous, nuanced performance throughout this entire episode. We as an audience truly feel for her hurt and anger throughout this story. And my heart broke as she runs away from Dwight with her adoration of the man she loves, but at the same time, shattered. The performances from everyone in the cast was brilliant, as always. But I felt compelled to single out Angela for her marvelous acting. Aw.

[Angela Kinsey]

That is so nice. Thank you. I so appreciate that.

[Jenna Fischer]

We really feel Angela being torn here because Dwight admits he killed Sprinkles. He mercy killed Sprinkles.

[Angela Kinsey]

And, you know, Dwight tried to do it in the kindest way and for all the right reasons in his mind. Right.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

In his perspective. And gave her antihistamines until she fell asleep. And then Angela's like. But then she threw them up and she tried to claw her way out. And she's like, why didn't you talk to me about this first? Like, how is this not a conversation? If this was the solution you thought needed to happen, why not talk to me about this? And there are sad moments to the scene, and then there's these moments where obviously there's a joke written, but I have to say it really earnestly, like the cat. Heaven is a beautiful place, but you don't get there if you're euthanized, you know?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

But one of the notes Greg gave me was, as you run away, you know, Dwight's like, reaching out for you. And I say, you don't understand. And I kind of start to cry as I run away. And he said, you know what Dwight isn't getting is that this is unforgivable for you.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

And you love this man, but he has severed this bond. You don't think you can be with him anymore. But Dwight doesn't know that yet. But you know it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, I've had this happen in relationships where you're dating and you're so in love, and the relationship is just all promise and optimism, and then something happens and the person reacts or acts in such a way that you realize there is a fundamental difference of values.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. And she knows it. And she knows she can't see him the same way. And it will take a very, very, very long time, as we know, for her to forgive him.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. Well, guess what? Jim and Pam bought a lamp.

[Angela Kinsey]

Just the base of a lamp.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. It was $8. And now Jim gets to carry it.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's an odd choice, this green lamp. It looks like two octopus tentacles are holding hands or something. I don't know what's happening with it.

[Jenna Fischer]

How does Jim feel about Pam's taste? If this is the lamp she wanted to buy, is he concerned about moving in together one day? Maybe sharing a house? This lamp is not great. But also, Michael is really struggling. Phyllis and Bob pass him up.

[Angela Kinsey]

I mean, he's laying on the ground, his lips are all white. He doesn't look good.

[Jenna Fischer]

He doesn't look like he's gonna make it. In the meantime, Toby wins the race.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. And I thought it was so perfect that Kelly is at the finish line, like on her phone.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. And he's like, where are we? And she's like, we're about five kilometers from the office. And Toby's like, why didn't Michael make it a circle?

[Angela Kinsey]

No, I couldn't have made it easy.

[Jenna Fischer]

Made it a straight line. Well, it's interesting. So that spot where they are is pretty much right outside of our real office, actually. That was on Sadaquoi street where we shot. So we actually were very, very close. Like, we. We just walked back to set at the end.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

So we actually did end very close to our office.

[Angela Kinsey]

You know, I guess it's interesting because Pam, like, I think she's going to give Michael a pep talk, but she's like, no, you don't got this. It's more like Pam sass of like, there's other people that are better at helping people. Why don't you just let this one go? And then Michael's like, you don't know me. You've just seen my penis. And somehow Pam not cheering him on makes him cheer himself on. And he has this talking head where he's like, finishing that 5k was the hardest thing I've ever had to do. I ate more fettuccine Alfredo and drank less water than he ever has in his entire life. This was so funny to me. He slowly makes his way across the finish line. And I caught a palm tree.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Did you see it?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes, I did.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. 39 minutes, 46 seconds. Palm tree alert.

[Jenna Fischer]

We did not. I guess we didn't paint that one out.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, I'm sure there are others along the way, because, you know, we're filming outside so much. But he finally makes it across the finish line, and Jim gives him the lamp as a trophy and he pukes.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, probably some kind of mushroom soup.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, it looked. It looked gross.

[Jenna Fischer]

It looked. It was so gross.

[Angela Kinsey]

It looked so gross. And he let it just dribble down his chin. I'm like, wipe that off your face.

[Jenna Fischer]

So gross. Well, this episode ends with Michael in the hospital, and Meredith has wheeled herself in to his room to visit him.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. There is a deleted scene that Michael checked himself into the hospital for dehydration, and he requested his patient, childhood pediatrician, come visit him. And his pediatrician is a very elderly man. And he's saying, you know, Michael doesn't really need to be in the hospital. He got a little dehydrated. Really? This all could have been solved with a bottle of water, but. And then as he's talking, Michael's like, where's my lollipop? He, like, gives him a. Oh, my gosh.

[Jenna Fischer]

Is that why he has a lollipop in this scene with Meredith?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes, because his pediatrician stopped by and checked in on him and gave him a lollipop.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, the lollipop leads us to a very cringy final moment.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

Which is that Michael is sucking on the lollipop, and he suggests that they share it. So he hands it to Meredith, who then sort of puts it in her mouth, and then she offers it back to Michael, and he says, nah, no, I'm good. Good. Well, we had some mail from Eliza Jarvis and Natalie Benari. Please tell me the lollipop Michael shares with Meredith is switched out before they share it. Did they really share it? Guys, I wondered the same thing when I watched this scene. There is no cut. It's. It's a oner shot of Steve taking the lollipop out of his mouth and handing it to Kate. So we asked Kate about it.

[Angela Kinsey]

We had to ask her about it.

[Jenna Fischer]

And she said they did not rinse it off.

[Angela Kinsey]

She also said Steve improvised that in the moment and she just went with it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. And I think. I think that's why you see her. Pause a second. I think you are watching Kate, the person decide if she's gonna do this.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

She's like, am I gonna do this? But brilliant ending. Good for you, Kate. Way to. Way to really go for it on the show. She said she got a thrill out of doing her own sort of stunt, so.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, well, she's brave. And, you know, there was a Dwight deleted talking head that I think would have come after this, where it's really. It kind of broke my heart where he talks about forgiveness and what it is to forgive someone and that he hopes that his friend will forgive him because if Meredith can forgive Michael for hitting her with a car, maybe his friend will be able to forgive him. And he's hopeful. I know it made me sad.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. Well, I think that finishes out Fun run. We did a fun run.

[Angela Kinsey]

Thank you guys so much for joining us for the Michael Scott DMSNP MC Rabies Awareness Pro Am Fun Run Race for the Cure.

[Jenna Fischer]

We'll be back next week. Thank you for listening to Office Lady's second drink.

[Angela Kinsey]

This episode was initially created in collaboration with Earwolf.

[Jenna Fischer]

Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey.

[Angela Kinsey]

Our executive producer is Cassie Jorkins and our audio engineer and associate producer is Molly Nugent. Odyssey's executive producer producer is Leah Reese Dennis.

[Jenna Fischer]

Office Ladies was mixed and mastered by Bill Schultz. Our theme song is Rubber Tree by Creed Bratton.

[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

Sure can.

[Jenna Fischer]

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