Second Drink: The Surplus

Summary

Office Ladies: Second Drink – “The Surplus”

Episode Date: May 18, 2026
Hosts: Jenna Fischer & Angela Kinsey
Topic: Revisiting “The Surplus” (Season 5, Episode 10 of The Office)

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Episode Overview

In this “Second Drink” edition, Jenna and Angela dive deeper into the much-loved Season 5 episode “The Surplus.” With signature warmth and infectious laughter, they recount behind-the-scenes secrets, reveal deleted scenes, answer listener questions, and celebrate Angela’s milestone 50th birthday with surprises on air.

Their discussion covers memorable moments from the episode – Michael’s confusion about the budget surplus, the legendary copier vs. chair debate, the Schrute Farms wedding arc, and the classic Hank-decides scene. They share set memories, production tales, improv breakdowns, and lots of personal anecdotes, all while exemplifying the enduring friendship that powers both the podcast and the series.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Celebrating Angela’s 50th Birthday

• Angela’s Emotions about Turning 50

  • Jenna: “You’ll be a hot 50 lady.” (13:32)
  • Angela: “I think I’ve been in denial… but now it feels big. I realize I’m in a different survey group!” (13:44)
  • Hilarious anecdote from Angela’s 96-year-old grandmother, Lena May:
    • “When I’m sitting down, I feel like I’m 23. It’s when I stand up that I feel 97.” (14:16)

• Work Birthday Prank and Surprise

  • Angela believes she's finally getting a birthday cake at work, referencing her character’s overdue work party in “The Surplus,” but is pranked several times before the real on-air surprise lands (48:00+).
  • Jenna: “We could not let you start your 50s without a proper work birthday.” (50:49)
  • Angela receives birthday cards from listeners and is genuinely touched: “Thank you for my cake. A cake at work. It finally happened.” (51:10)

2. Listener Letters & Memorable Fan Moments

• Touching listener letter from Jordan G. about friendship and Angela’s first work birthday scene (04:23).
• Letter from Hannah B. on Hank’s iconic jelly bean moment:
  • Angela: “Steven Hughes energy in this scene is hilarious. Hannah, we mentioned … this is our favorite as well.” (06:25)
  • Jenna shares how the Hank scene was a brilliant, seamless mix of scripted and improvised lines (06:59).
• Fans praise deleted and “Superfan” version scenes, especially those showing the quirky depth of Angela & Dwight’s relationship (10:13+).

3. Butter Sculptures at the Iowa State Fair

• Angela’s character insists on having a cat made out of butter for her wedding, prompting Jenna’s real-life deep dive into butter sculpture tradition (02:58, 44:58).
  • Jenna: “A butter cow could butter about 19,200 pieces of toast.” (46:03)
  • Angela: “Would you not use the recycled cow sculpture butter?” (46:38)
  • Humorous discussion of cat butter sculptures and “cat pooping butter” found online (51:23).

4. Copiers vs. Chairs – The Great Debate

• Michael is presented with a $4,300 office surplus, splitting the office between team copier and team chairs.
  • Angela: “No one wants to walk to the annex. It’s icky back there.” (32:05)
• Jenna and Angela both firmly declare themselves Team Chair, and agree to poll listeners (74:35).
  • Jenna: “Team copier doesn’t even make sense to me.”
  • Angela: “A chair – that’s your tailbone, that’s your spine, that’s your butt.” (74:46)
• They revisit deleted talking heads and scenes showing Pam’s strong pro-chair stance (31:23).

5. Schrute Farms: Production Deep Dive

• Angela uncovers extensive production notes from producer Randy Cordray about filming Schrute Farms at Disney’s Golden Oak Ranch—detailing ranch history, locations (“Ragwing Barn,” “Pee Wee’s”), and behind-the-scenes logistics (20:50–25:18).
  • Randy’s anecdote: the location’s legacy includes California’s first gold discovery (22:40).
  • They laugh about filming in “88 degrees in October” and doing fake shivers for “cold” scenes (17:34, 39:10).
  • Angela shares her personal production challenge: “I was pumping at Schrute Farms in the heat!” (39:45)

6. Behind the Scenes, Improv, and Deleted Scenes

• Cold Opens:
  • Two cold opens were written; only one was filmed and appears on the Peacock “Superfan” cut (Snowball fight cut due to cost; “relaxing meadow / ghoul prank” kept).
  • Jenna: “They would have had to call Snow Business and get a bunch of fake snow.” (10:04)
• Angela, Andy, & Dwight’s Hilarious Outtakes:
  • “Directions to Schrute Farms” blooper involving “If you smell bear pee, turn the other way.” (33:08)
  • Angela: “They literally handed him a whole paper that were extra directions.” (34:16)
• Deleted Car Scenes:
  • Fun car ride improv: Andy annoys Angela by singing “What’s Up” by 4 Non Blondes (59:44).
  • Angela: “It was right up there with a Jan-Michael car ride home.” (58:51)
• Choking on Tiramisu:
  • Steve Carell’s improv: eating tiramisu and faking a choke (“I almost choked.”) was ad-libbed gold (53:21+).
  • Angela: “It’s the funniest choking scene I’ve ever seen.” (53:51)
• Sinking Chair Gag:
  • Director Paul Feig’s favorite: Michael slowly sinks in Pam’s chair to “prove” it’s fine.
    • Paul Feig: “Steve just destroyed me… it takes you a few seconds to realize he’s sinking… One of my favorite gags.” (64:58)
    • Jenna: “I had to squat and hover for the scene—it was a workout day for me.” (66:50)

7. Improv Moments & Quotable Lines

• Michael requests, “Explain it to me like I’m 8… explain it to me like I’m 5.”
  • Oscar’s lemonade stand analogy leads Michael to respond deadpan:
    • “I’ll be six.” (30:00)
• Hank the security guard’s scene:
  • Hugh Dane improvs “thank you, thank you,” after taking jelly beans, Steve improvs “take as many as you want.” (07:01)
• Angela/Dwight/Andy wedding at Schrute Farms:
  • “If you smell bear pee at any point, abort.” (33:08)
  • “I would marry you during an earthquake…in the front row of an Elton John concert…” (Deleted Angela speech, 71:36)
• Angela/Dwight “Mayflower” deleted scene:
  • Dwight: “Half my family came over on a U-boat and would’ve destroyed the Mayflower.”
    Angela: “Listen to you. Destroyed the Mayflower.” (11:43+)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments (with Timestamps)

• On turning 50:

  • Angela: “I’m 49, staring at 50… I realize I’m in a different survey group!” (13:24)

• On butter sculptures:

  • Jenna: “I love things sculpted out of other things.” (04:23)
  • Jenna: “A butter cow could butter about 19,200 pieces of toast.” (46:03)

• On office priorities:

  • Angela: “No one wants to walk to the annex. It’s icky back there.” (32:05)
  • Jenna: “Team copier doesn’t even make sense to me, frankly.” (74:46)

• On Michael’s math “genius”:

  • Jenna: “He’s a genius!” – The recurring bit whenever Michael gets a math answer right or wrong (67:50, 68:16)

• On the infamous kissing scene:

  • Angela: “Ed was so sweet… he did not open his lips for a second. We did what we call grandparent kissing.” (69:54)
  • Jenna: “Very different from a kiss with Rainn … who was actually eating tuna in real life, backstage, for no reason at all, knowing he is before a kissing scene.” (72:32)

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Key Timestamps

• Angela’s birthday surprise & work cake: 13:13–16:51, 48:00–51:15
• Fan letters and Hank’s jellybean improv: 04:23–07:55
• Butter sculpture lore: 02:58, 44:58–47:12, 51:23–52:13
• Schrute Farms production stories: 20:50–25:18
• “Directions to Schrute Farms” blooper: 32:24–34:47
• Sinking chair gag (Paul Feig): 64:58–67:16
• Michael’s math “genius” moment: 67:50–68:16
• Angela/Andy’s tuna sandwich kiss: 68:54–71:05
• Deleted Angela “Elton John” speech: 71:36–72:08
• Choking on tiramisu (improv): 53:23–54:12

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Final Thoughts

• Angela and Jenna’s Friendship:
  The episode is filled with genuine affection and support – from how they tease each other, orchestrate surprises, read listener mail, and recount shared memories. Fans continually highlight this as the heart of Office Ladies.

• Team Chairs Prevails:
  With both hosts siding with Team Chairs and inviting listeners to join the poll, the episode playfully continues the “copier vs. chair” debate that defined “The Surplus.”

• Insider Insights:
  The detailed production stories (Schrute Farms locations, the temperature on set, deleted scenes) and deep dives into props (butter sculptures, fake manure) deliver exactly what long-time The Office fans want.

• Improvisation & Script Fidelity:
  The hosts reveal which moments were tightly scripted, which ones were improvised, and how their natural chemistry often encouraged script additions and on-set spontaneity.

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Summary:
A rich and laughter-filled episode, “Second Drink: The Surplus” offers both new and longtime fans a delightful look behind the scenes, touching on friendship, milestone birthdays, and the little details that make The Office so beloved. With classic moments, listener tributes, and living-room warmth, Jenna and Angela once again prove that there is no deeper dive than Office Ladies.

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If you’re a fan of the chairs vs. copier debate, Schrute Farms’ chaotic romance, or just want to celebrate Angela’s birthday and friendship, this jubilant “Second Drink” is a must-listen.

Transcript

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[Angela Kinsey]

Need the right hire fast. Then this is a job for Indeed Sponsored Jobs. Hello and welcome to your second drink of the surplus. This is the episode where Oscar explains to Michael that he has to spend the office surplus and it kicks off this big debate over what the bullpen wants to spend it on. Chairs or a new copier this is also when Dwight takes Angela and Andy to Schrute Farms.

[Jenna Fischer]

It was a very fun episode of the Office, one of my favorite to shoot, and also one of my favorite episodes of Office Ladies. So listen, lady, I was revisiting this one, and I did this deep dive on butter sculptures at the Iowa State Fair. Because when Angela is talking about planning her wedding, she says she wants a cat butter sculpture.

[Angela Kinsey]

Mm. I remember when we did our stories. You sent me all of these pictures you found of butter sculptures.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. Well, guess what? I have an update.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

A butter sculpture update. I want everyone to know that the Iowa State Fair will be going on this year from August 13th to 23rd. And yes, there will be a butter cow, per usual. And it will be sculpted by Sarah Pratt, who has been making the butter cow since 2006. Her two daughters, Hannah and Grace, are now her apprentices. And listen, I'm telling you, I got so interested in these sculptures again that I ended up watching some videos of Sarah and her daughters from last year's fair. And they used their hands a lot to do the sculpting. I don't know what I was expecting. Tools. I don't know.

[Angela Kinsey]

I totally envision it as, like, them using their hands, like, almost like a clay, like making pottery.

[Jenna Fischer]

That is what it was like. I envisioned it like, I don't know, like an old timey, like chisel and hammer. But no, they do. They use their hands to mold it, and then it cools into the shape that they're going for. It's really fascinating.

[Angela Kinsey]

I want to watch it.

[Jenna Fischer]

And one day I need to see these butter sculptures in real life. Can we please do this? Lady, I mean it. I mean it.

[Angela Kinsey]

My bags are packed.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

I mean, I am in. I love butter.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know you do. And I love things sculpted out of other things. I guess this is a good match for us. Well, lady, this is also the episode where we finally gave you your first work birthday. Yeah, but your cake was late. It was a whole thing. You can listen to it in the episode. But when we put a call out to our listeners to tell us their favorite moment from the Surplus, we got this letter from Jordan G. In Orlando, and Angela, I had to share. Jordan said. Hi, ladies. This is more of a response to your episode of the podcast and less about the show itself. I'm currently listening to the Surplus episode for the first time where Angela gets her first work birthday party. I just want to say how touching that moment was when Angela was surprised with her cake. It literally made me Tear up. One of my favorite things about the podcast is being able to have a look into the friendship between you two. It is so honest and special, and your obvious connection and love for one another is truly something so amazing to get to witness. You make me laugh, cry, and everything in between. I feel like I'm right there with you. I'm sure you've heard it a million times, so what's one time more? Thank you for creating something so special for everyone. Many blessings to both you and your family. Love always, Jourdan.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, Jourdan, gosh, that just. You know what? Just completely made my day. Thank you so much.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know. I thought that was so sweet. And she also had a P.S. i guess I met Jordan in Arizona at the University of Arizona in 2018. I had done a book signing for the Actor's Life. She said I was literally one of the last people in line, and you still took time to talk with me and sign my book. And as an actor who now gets paid full time to perform, way to go, Jordan. Yes. It was huge. Encouraging me through those tough times we all face. Oh, Jordan. Yay. Congratulations and thank you for writing in.

[Angela Kinsey]

Thank you so much, Jordan. Well, I have a letter here from Hannah B. In Canada, who says, first off, love you ladies so much. I rewatched the surplus recently and love the scene where Michael calls in Hank to make the final decision, especially the moment when Hank realizes the power he's been given. Was it scripted that he would take the jelly beans? And Michael responds very seriously that he can take as many as he wants. Steven Hughes energy in this scene is hilarious. I mean, it is so fantastic. Hannah, we mentioned in our breakdown that this is our favorite as well.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, yes. So much. It's so good. And Hannah, I went to the script and it was scripted that Hank take some jelly beans, but that's all it said. Steve improvised the line, take as many as you want. And Hugh improvised the thank you, thank you before his next scripted line. That was, you know, it's nice and warm up here. And I actually think this little bit that Hannah points out is such a great example of improv on the show. Ange. Because we weren't improvising whole scenes. We would have a scripted bit, and then we do some little thing, and then we'd go back to scripted and we did it so seamless.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Because we had really great writing. When there were these little moments where we could sort of add a little color, we knew right where to do them. Do you know what I mean? It was just so organic.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. Oh, and, lady, while I was poking around in the script looking for the answer to this question, oh, my gosh. I found not one, but two cold opens for this episode. We did not talk about this in our breakdown. Ooh. And this episode does not have a standalone cold open. We just get right into the plot. Oscar just enters Michael's office and tells him about the surplus. But there were actually two standalone cold opens written for this episode. I think we only ended up filming one of them. It got added back to the top of the peacock Superfan episode. It is a prank that Jim pulls on Dwight. Let's hear it.

[Guest/Other Speaker]

What is this thing you just sent me? Oh, it's really cool. It's a picture of the most relaxing meadow you've ever seen.

[Jenna Fischer]

Idiot.

[Guest/Other Speaker]

I know what this is. It's supposed to lull me into a sense of calm, and then a ghoul pops up and scares me. Why would I do that? Dwight, of all people, I know that your UN's careable. Damn right I am. Oh, hello, relaxing meadow. I'm so relaxed and calm. Looking at you right now.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, no.

[Jenna Fischer]

Scary ghoul just popped up. I'm so scared.

[Guest/Other Speaker]

I'm so scared. Really?

[Jenna Fischer]

Is this the best you could?

[Guest/Other Speaker]

Jim, how are you?

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

Mm.

[Guest/Other Speaker]

That is the best I can do.

[Angela Kinsey]

He got him. He got him, lady.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, so what? He does. Cause you can't see it. He is right over Dwight's shoulder in a scary mask, and that is what ends up scaring Dwight. So that is now at the top of this episode in the Superfan. But they wrote another cold open for this episode where Michael and Dwight discover that it's snowing outside, and we all run outside and have a snowball fight, but there's not a lot of snow, so the snow is kind of, like, filled with pebbles. You know when you're, like, trying to make a snowman, but there's not enough? Yeah. Or snowball or whatever.

[Angela Kinsey]

So you get dirt and sticks and stuff. Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, anyway, I bet they're glad they chose this one in the bullpen, because then they didn't have to spend a bunch of money on fake snow just to have it get cut from the episode.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's all I could think of when you shared that. I thought they were going to have to call snow business and get a bunch of fake snow.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, but they didn't. I don't think we shot it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, I love a cold open surprise. Well, I also want to talk about this letter we got from Cassie L. In Milton, Florida. Cassie said, I'm currently watching the Superfan episodes, and there's a scene between Angela and Dwight that has been added back in where we find out Angela is very passionate about the Mayflower. And it seems that Dwight knows this by his reaction. So Cassie wants to know how many times have they had deep conversations about the Mayflower? This scene made me laugh out loud. I went back and watched it three more times. Yeah, it was really fun. And it just. It's one of those scenes lady I loved that wasn't in the original. That just shows the history of a couple.

[Jenna Fischer]

Couple.

[Angela Kinsey]

You know, there's all this assumed history that you carry around with you when you are in a relationship with someone. And just a window into it is so delicious. It's like when we got to see Michael and Jan's condo. You know, I'm like, what? They've been living this all this time? But I thought it'd be fun to hear. It's after the scene in the kitchen where they are getting the directions to Schrute Farms. Angela and Dwight sneak out to the alleyway next to the warehouse. Let's listen.

[Guest/Other Speaker]

I thought you were gonna put the muzzle on that singing idiot.

[Angela Kinsey]

He's not a bad singer.

[Guest/Other Speaker]

He is pretty talented, I guess.

[Angela Kinsey]

And he went to Cornell.

[Guest/Other Speaker]

Yeah, Well, I provide America with two of its most beloved staples. Beets and paper.

[Angela Kinsey]

His family is well connected in pockets of Connecticut, and his ancestors came over on the Mayflower.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, big whoop.

[Guest/Other Speaker]

Half my family came over on a U boat and would've destroyed.

[Jenna Fischer]

Destroyed the Mayflower.

[Angela Kinsey]

Listen to you. Destroyed the Mayflower.

[Guest/Other Speaker]

Sorry. I can't believe I said that. Angela,

[Jenna Fischer]

that's so fun.

[Angela Kinsey]

I so remember doing that scene. You know how some you hear and you're like, ah. I don't really remember that. I remember saying, deep pockets of Connecticut.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's so good.

[Angela Kinsey]

She's so impressed.

[Jenna Fischer]

I also love that Dwight has to admit he is a good singer. Yeah. Well, you know what's crazy is that in the background of this scene, lady, there's a little bit of snow on the dumpster, and you guys are acting like you're really cold. So I kind of wonder, when did we shoot this? Was this before or after they decided to bail on that snow Cold open? They were like, we don't know what the cold open's gonna be for this episode yet, so just throw some snow out there so it matches. Just in case.

[Angela Kinsey]

Just in case. Okay, everyone. Well, thanks so much for sending in your letters about your favorite moments. We love them. You can submit your favorites@our officeladies.com. and now it's time for your second drink of the surplus.

[Jenna Fischer]

I'm Jenna Fisher.

[Angela Kinsey]

And I'm Angela Kinsey.

[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

We're the Office ladies. Hello, everyone.

[Angela Kinsey]

Hello, you guys.

[Jenna Fischer]

Today is a very special day. Yes, it is the last day that Angela will be in her 40s.

[Angela Kinsey]

It is. You guys, I am 49, staring at 50. By the time you guys hear this, I'll be 50. Yeah, that's crazy.

[Jenna Fischer]

You'll be a hot 50 lady.

[Angela Kinsey]

Ooh, hot 50.

[Jenna Fischer]

I was asking you the other day, what does it feel like? Like, what does 50 feel like as you're approaching this milestone birthday?

[Angela Kinsey]

I think I've been in denial because I've just been busy with life and kids and whatnot. But I. I am realizing now it feels big. You know what I mean? Like, I realize I'm in a different survey group. Like, like, they're like, Americans 18 to 35 surveyed. Americans 35 to 45 surveyed. I'm like, oh, my God, I'm not in the survey anymore. I'm in the, like, Senior citizens surveyed 50 to 75.

[Jenna Fischer]

You're gonna get surveyed about all, like, aches and pains and things now, right?

[Angela Kinsey]

You know what? My grandmother lived till 100. And I'll never forget, when she was 96, her and I were hanging out. She was the best. Her name was Lena May. And I said, grandmother, you're about to turn 97. How does it feel? And she said, well, you know, when I'm sitting down, I feel like I'm 23. It's when I stand up that I feel 97.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, that's amazing.

[Angela Kinsey]

Isn't that amazing? And then she said, nothing's broken, but none of it really works. So, you guys, I'm very excited today because here I am at work the week of my birthday, and that means I'm getting a birthday cake, right? For the first time ever at work. Sam, do you have it? Is it hiding? I saw your Arby's bag. Is it behind it?

[Guest/Other Speaker]

Nope.

[Angela Kinsey]

What?

[Jenna Fischer]

Angela?

[Angela Kinsey]

Jenna. You said you had something in your car. Is this a ruse?

[Jenna Fischer]

No. What was in my car is my son's electric guitar that I accidentally brought today.

[Angela Kinsey]

I thought it was code for cake.

[Jenna Fischer]

I thought you were going to get

[Angela Kinsey]

cake this whole time.

[Jenna Fischer]

No, I mean, I can bring you down to the car, and you're gonna see a red electric guitar in my trunk. When I got here, Lee texted me, and I realized I picked him up from guitar last time. I never took it out of the trunk.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my God, you guys.

[Jenna Fischer]

Do you want a red electric guitar? A week and strum Happy Birthday on it.

[Angela Kinsey]

No, I think this is perfect. I think I need to finish my 40s. Never getting cake on my birthday. But next year, I want a cake. Okay, I'm gonna be 50. It's about time someone gives me a cake when I'm at work for my birthday. So 51. Do you hear me? Do you hear me? I want a cake. I want to look directly at me. And now I'm looking at you.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, boy.

[Angela Kinsey]

And, Cassie, I know you're in there somewhere in the zoom. I'm 50. This is what happens when you're 50. You're like, I'm 50. Give me what I want.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay, I think we all feel really bad.

[Angela Kinsey]

I would never want you to feel bad, ever. Are you messing with me, lady?

[Jenna Fischer]

I swear, it's an electric guitar. I feel like now.

[Angela Kinsey]

I mean, you guys, it was really funny. She was like, I have to run to my car.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know, Sam.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's about the guitar. And I'm like, this is code for cake. They're messing with me.

[Jenna Fischer]

Angela, we officially apologize that there is no cake here. I am gonna see you tomorrow on your actual birthday to celebrate your actual birthday, where you will be getting a cake. Yes, because I'll be dropping.

[Angela Kinsey]

Are you bringing a cake?

[Jenna Fischer]

Gelson's tomorrow tonight to get it? Because, by God, you're getting a cake.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, okay, okay. All right. Done.

[Jenna Fischer]

This week, we are talking about the surplus. It is Season 5, Episode 10, written by Gene Stupnitsky and Lee Eisenberg and directed by Paul Feig.

[Angela Kinsey]

Do you want to hear a fun little tidbit about the title?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

As you guys know, I am a digital hoarder. And every once in a while, it brings me a real nugget. I found an email from Randy Cordray saying that we were tentatively going to be shooting this episode in October of 2008. End of October. And the title, the working title was Spend the Surplus. Oh, Spend the Surplus.

[Jenna Fischer]

And then we just dropped the spend.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay, so as you watch this, know that we're filming end of October 2008. I went on a website that tells you weather years past. You guys, the high was 88 degrees in October. And if you watch us shivering outside. Know that that's a fakie shiver.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, I have some things to say about that when we get there. Okay, I'm going to hit you with a summary. Do it. Oscar informs Michael There is a $4,300 budget surplus that must be spent today or it gets returned and taken out of next year's budget. The office is then divided on what to spend it on. New chairs or a new copier. This creates tension between Jim and Pam, who are on opposing sides. Pam is team chairs. Jim is team copier. Andy and Angela visit Schrute Farms to discuss their wedding with Dwight. Michael then learns of a third option for the surplus. He can return it in exchange for a 15% bonus for himself. What will he choose?

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, he doesn't like to make anyone mad, but he also wants the money.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. Fast fact number one, the character of Ryan does not appear in this episode.

[Angela Kinsey]

Good catch.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. Remember last week he told Kelly he was gonna go to Thailand. Well, this marks his first episode on his vacation, and he will be gone for 11 weeks because he was filming Inglourious Basterds, the Quentin Tarantino film.

[Angela Kinsey]

This was such a big deal for bj. We were so excited he was working with Brad Pitt.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know.

[Angela Kinsey]

We really hit him up for Brad Pitt stories and he had nothing. He just said he was a nice guy. We're like, come on, give us something.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know. And then he would drop and do like, a one arm p. B.J.

[Angela Kinsey]

we get it. You have to get in good shape.

[Jenna Fischer]

We get it fast. Fact number two, our cinematographer for this episode was Matt Sohn. Yeah. So this actually happened back on Business Trip because remember, Randall Einhorn, our usual cinematographer, directed Business Trip. So while he was directing, Matt Sohn, who was normally our B camera operator, stepped in as cinematographer. But this started a stretch where Matt served as our A camera operator and cinematographer for three weeks while Randall was doing post production on his episode of Business Trip. And so these last three episodes, that's Matt Sohn, y'. All.

[Angela Kinsey]

I love that. Matt Sohn was the best. He is such a hiker. Do you know that?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. Didn't he and David Denman used to hike a bunch?

[Angela Kinsey]

They hike a bunch. I saw him on a hike one time and I was, like, sucking air so hard, and he, like, strode past me with his kid in one of those backpack things.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

And I was like, shoot. He was really in good shape.

[Jenna Fischer]

He and Randall both were in good shape. I know, but I mean, they need to be because they're lugging those cameras on their shoulders. Although now Matt directs.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. Now he just hikes for pleasure.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. Fast. Fact number three, A very big portion of this episode takes place at Schrute Farms. And Angela, I know you will have a lot to share about that, but to kick things off, you have a location breakdown from Randy Cordray.

[Angela Kinsey]

I sure do. You guys, Randy Cordray is the best. Jenna has shared with you emails that he has sent to us. I reached out to him because I had questions about shrut farms. We have shared over the years that there were a few different locations for shrewd farms. And I just wanted to ask Randy which location it was. And I had a question about the barn. He responded to my email, Jenna, with so many details. It was so wonderful. And photos. I'm going to share. Here we go. Are you ready for Randy Cordray's location breakdown of Schrute Farms?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

These scenes were shot in new hall at the Disney Ranch. It was originally known as the Golden Oak Ranch. And Jenna, Randy gives us a deep dive on the origin of the Golden Oak Ranch.

[Jenna Fischer]

Lay it on me.

[Angela Kinsey]

He did a deep dive. This is what he said. It was land owned by the famous singing cowboy movie star Gene Autry. Gene Autry also owned the California Angels baseball team and the Los Angeles news station KTLA Channel 5, which was the first TV station on the west coast. Randy also shared that The Walt Disney Company purchased the property in 1959 and established a movie location on a still working horse and cattle ranch. There's more. He shared that just beyond the boundary of the property to the south in Placarita Canyon State park is the site of the very first gold discovery in California in 1842. And a cowhand named Francisco Lopez was sitting under an oak tree and pulled up some wild onions. He found gold nuggets clinging to the roots. His discovery led to a mini gold rush six years before the more famous discovery of gold at Sutter's Mill.

[Jenna Fischer]

Wait. He pulled onions out of the ground, and there was gold clinging to, like, the onion or the root of the onion.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Gold nuggets clinging to the root of this onion. And it happened right there. And that is why it's called the Golden Oak Ranch.

[Jenna Fischer]

It should be called the Golden Onion Ranch.

[Angela Kinsey]

He was sitting under an oak tree. It should be called a Golden Oak Onion Ranch. Onion ranch. Golden Oak Onion Ranch rolls off the tongue. So there's the background on the origin of the Golden Oak Ranch, which then became the Disney Ranch. So we spent a lot of time at this Disney Ranch. Filming this episode, there's tons more scenes that didn't make it in. We were there the whole week. This was weird for me, Jenna, because I was the one not in the office. And you were there, right?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes, yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

When we shot there, the facilities were just limited to a few buildings. A farmhouse, some barns and stables. Right. Randy shared with us that in the corner of the ranch, there was a very rundown western street that was really in disrepair, and it was. It looked like a set that had been forgotten about because no one was making those spaghetti westerns anymore. It probably had its heyday, but it was really falling apart. But Randy shared that since then, Disney has invested a ton of money and has completely modernized the grounds. He said I wouldn't even recognize it. There are six state of the art sound stages. There's also a fake residential street and a business district. And there's a full feature backlot movie location. Now, none of that was there when we were there. It was like a rundown, old, like, western set when we were there.

[Jenna Fischer]

I've been there. Cause I was there for the bed and breakfast.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

When Jim and Pam.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's right. That's right.

[Jenna Fischer]

Go to, you know, stay at Schrute Farms. And there was nothing. It was really just these rickety farmhouses and barns that were basically falling apart.

[Angela Kinsey]

Right. And there was only a handful of them and then just sort of fields.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, now it's a full studio.

[Jenna Fischer]

Wow.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know. I asked him a little bit about the barn we filmed in, and he said the very first scene you see of us walking into the barn.

[Jenna Fischer]

Mm.

[Angela Kinsey]

That stable was called the Ragwing barn. And Randy negotiated a rate to include the horses and mules and the horse that you see in the stalls. Oh, and then the other barn, which was like the fancy barn where Dwight, you know, made it to look like a wedding ceremony.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

That barn was known as Pee Wee's because it was the former location used in Paul Reuben's Pee Wee's Playhouse. Oh, wow. So they all had names. And the actual Schrute farmhouse was an old farmhouse on the property known as Olivia's.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's really cool. I know.

[Angela Kinsey]

And he sent me pictures of the mules that he took that day. And he sent me, like, the map of the location, which. It doesn't look anything like that anymore. It's so wild. It's completely different.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's so cool. Thank you. Randy Cordray. I know.

[Angela Kinsey]

He's the best.

[Jenna Fischer]

He really came through.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, listen, should we take a break while I run to the store and buy you a cake, and you go to the bathroom, and we'll be back to break down the supply episode.

[Angela Kinsey]

Are you gonna go get me a guitar?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, I'm gonna go get the guitar out of my car now.

[Angela Kinsey]

All right. Awesome.

[Jenna Fischer]

I'm gonna need about 20 minutes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Guest/Other Speaker]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

What?

[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

All right, we are back. And Oscar is presenting Michael with the overall budget for the fiscal year. And he is trying to explain that they have a surplus of $4,300. Michael's not quite getting it. He says, explain it to me like I'm 8 years old.

[Angela Kinsey]

Then he says, explain it to me like I'm five. I know.

[Jenna Fischer]

So Oscar does this great lemonade stand analogy. Michael seems like he's getting it. Ultimately, in the end, we're not sure he totally got it.

[Angela Kinsey]

No.

[Jenna Fischer]

But Oscar says, you need to spend this money today and you should really spend it on a new copier, because we need it. We desperately need it. We had a fan question from Lauren K. When Oscar is explaining the surplus to Michael and Michael says, explain it to me like I'm five. There's this great line when Oscar says, then next summer, and Michael says, I'll be six.

[Angela Kinsey]

That made me laugh so hard.

[Jenna Fischer]

So hard. Lauren wanted to know, was that scripted or was it improvised? It was scripted.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

That beat. Steve threw it away so perfectly.

[Angela Kinsey]

It was so cute. It was so innocent.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, Michael. Well, he's very excited. He knows it's something good, right? He grasped at least that. And he's going to announce to the whole bullpen, yes, they've got a surplus. And he thinks, maybe we'll get a new copier. And Pam's like, no, no, no, wait, wait, hold up. We need new chairs.

[Jenna Fischer]

Toby feels like they really need a good air quality inspection for some of the silent killers. Here's Toby again. He's worried about the radon gas. He's worried about the asbestos.

[Angela Kinsey]

This is the runner that the writers loved for Toby.

[Jenna Fischer]

And this is the scene where we realize that Jim is not team chairs. He wants a copier.

[Angela Kinsey]

It really made me laugh hard. When Creed goes, the ball's on you, man. Creed's delivery was so good. And Jenna, there was a Pam talking head that would have gone here. And it's about her chair. And you delivered it from reception. It's a talking head from reception in my chair standing next to your chair.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, what is it, Sam?

[Angela Kinsey]

Play it.

[Jenna Fischer]

This is the chair that was here when I was hired. It was crappy then and it's even worse now. To give myself a break. Sometimes I go outside and sit on the ground. Oh yeah, I remember that now.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's how bad that chair is. I thought Pam made a really strong argument. She made me want to be team chair because she was like, I make the copies. I'm the one that has to deal with the copier. That should tell you how bad these chairs are.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, and also everyone would get a new chair. Right? So it really is something for everyone. But the other thing I thought was just what about the copier in the annex? There's another copier.

[Angela Kinsey]

No one wants to walk to the annex. It's icky back there.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, then they should swap them.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know.

[Jenna Fischer]

Maybe Kelly needs to make a lot of copies.

[Angela Kinsey]

It feels like there's a simple solution

[Jenna Fischer]

to the copier problem that no one's realizing. Well, Michael's gonna digest all of their ideas and see what comes out the other end.

[Angela Kinsey]

Coming up at 3 minutes 56 seconds is a scene, Jenna, that I didn't think I was gonna get through. I didn't think we would have any usable takes. Last week you talked about that clown painting on the wall in Jim's parents house that you guys could not get through it. You were laughing.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

This scene with Dwight giving directions to Andy and Angela, that was it for me. Ed and I, we could not get through it. Like truly, we could not stop laughing. It's in the bloopers and I think we gotta hear it.

[Jenna Fischer]

You know, lady, last week I looked at the bloopers to see if I could find any clown painting outtakes. Yeah, I couldn't find them, but I did see this. It is so good.

[Guest/Other Speaker]

Just I feel like some of these directions to Shrewd farms are a little weird. I mean like 156 paces from the light red mailbox, make a left, walk until you hear the beehive and make a right. If you are attacked by territorial crows, I had. This is a really easy. If you smell bear pee, turn the other way. I. If you smell bear pee at any point, abort. Wait in your car for further instructions.

[Angela Kinsey]

What's the problem? Exactly?

[Jenna Fischer]

The other thing that's so great about this blooper is that you're hearing all those candy bag alt directions.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. Because in the Script. The only directions were 156paces from the light red mailbox. And then the one about the bear. All the rest are candy bag alts.

[Jenna Fischer]

So were they just. Cause in the clip, you can see that Ed is reading, were they just handing him pieces of paper with, like, funny directions?

[Angela Kinsey]

They literally did. They handed him a whole paper that were extra directions. And that's why he was like, I almost had it. And if you guys watch the bloopers, you'll see that I'm sniffling. I am sniffling because it was so cold on set that day that my nose was running and I had a tissue in my hand that I was hiding under the table. And it was that cold.

[Jenna Fischer]

That used to happen to me all the time. My nose would run on set. I know I had my sneezing from the allergies and the runny nose from the cold.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, I rewatched the scene, and all I can see is me sniffling and trying not to laugh.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, you laughed a lot.

[Angela Kinsey]

I did. Well, Jenna, we had a fan question about this scene. Alijoh wrote in and said when Angela and Andy are talking to Dwight, Andy says something about a three way, and it looks like Dwight mouth something to Angela. Do you remember what he said? I can tell you in the script, Rain had this stage direction. It says dwight rolls his eyes to Angela, like, ugh, check out the dummy. And Angela doesn't give him anything. So I think Rain was sort of mocking Andy in that moment, like, looking at me like, ugh, this guy.

[Jenna Fischer]

Coming up, we have a scene that was really, really fun for me. It's the scene in the kitchen between Pam and Jim where Pam is kind of low key, threatening Jim.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

To be on her side.

[Angela Kinsey]

Not low key, full key. Is that an expression?

[Jenna Fischer]

We had a fan question from Jessica K. She would very much like us to discuss Pam's you're on dangerous ground moment, saying, quote, I was like, damn, Jenna. Well, Jessica, we came up with this little moment while we rehearsed the scene. So this idea of Pam going over to Jim and going in for a kiss, but then pulling back, that was something that we did in rehearsal. It was not in the script. And we just were so tickled. You know those moments when you're rehearsing a scene or you're doing a scene and you come up with this idea that just opens it up in this new way.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's so fun. And it's so fun to see everyone else realize it too. Cause I have to imagine that when Paul Feig saw It. He was like, oh, yes, you have to do that.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, it was really, really cool. And then we knew we shot this scene first. We were gonna mirror it in the tag at the end with Jim.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, it's so good. And I love Jim's talking head after where he was like, ugh, spooky. You guys were about to head out to Shrut Farms. There was a deleted driving scene. It was so good. There's actually two. I'll get to the other one.

[Jenna Fischer]

Wait. There's a scene of you and Andy and Dwight driving in a car together.

[Angela Kinsey]

Two. Oh, they are bookends. One and then one when we leave.

[Jenna Fischer]

Stop it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes, the one on the way there. Dwight and Angela get into a fight. Also, Angela's driving.

[Jenna Fischer]

That tracks for me.

[Angela Kinsey]

Angela's driving and her car is filthy. It's, like, covered in mud. It's so funny. Oh, I know.

[Jenna Fischer]

Is that because maybe she's been going out to shop? She's been outstretchery Farms recently.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. So she's driving, Dwight's in the front, and Andy's in the back poking his head through. That's amazing for both scenes. These scenes were so much fun to film. On the way there, Angela and Dwight are arguing about centerpieces at the reception. Angela wants a fishbowl with a fish in it. Dwight's like, let's put a piranha in it, and that will kill the fish and there'll be blood. And she's like, I don't want blood on my wedding day. And then he's like, well, I guess I have to reorder the cake.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, no, that's horrible.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know. What is this cake? And Andy's like, you too. That is on the dvd. The other one isn't on the dvd, but I'm gonna share it later. Cause it's when they're leaving Shrut Farms,

[Jenna Fischer]

when Dwight is giving Andy and Angela a tour of Schrute Farms, they get into another discussion about, I guess on theme with blood. They're talking about the slaughter. Do they really have to slaughter the entrees on the day of the wedding?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

I mean, yeah, I know.

[Angela Kinsey]

And Andy gets Dwight to not do it the day of the wedding. And then Andy's like, what's that smell? Oh, my gosh, I'm so Southern. Did you hear that smell? What's that smell? It's a vowel before an L. I can't do it. And Angela goes, manure. Get rid of it.

[Jenna Fischer]

We had a lot of fan questions about the manure. Oh, yeah, Like A lot. Everybody wanted to know, was it real manure? No, it was not. It was made by Phil Shea. That was Phil Shea's job that day. Make fakie manure. And he.

[Angela Kinsey]

How did he do it?

[Jenna Fischer]

He mixed mostly oatmeal, little bit of sand, and some food coloring.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, it looks like manure.

[Jenna Fischer]

It does.

[Angela Kinsey]

Good job, Phil Shea.

[Jenna Fischer]

Lee Eisenberg shared with me that his most vivid memory of shooting this episode was how hot it was at Schrute Farms and that you guys had to walk around in coats pretending it was cold.

[Angela Kinsey]

I noticed my forehead was glistening. Yeah, I'm not one to sweat, guys. I'm not a big sweater because I'm always cold. So if it tells you anything about how hot it was, I was sweating. Also, real random side note, sorry if this is an overshare. When we were filming this, I had a five month old and I would have to go and pump.

[Jenna Fischer]

You were pumping at Schrute Farms?

[Angela Kinsey]

I pumped at Schrute Farms where they had like, first of all, our trailers were a little bit of a car ride away and they just helped me get there. Cause I would have to go pump.

[Jenna Fischer]

You pumped at Schrute Farms?

[Angela Kinsey]

I pumped at shrimp farms in the heat.

[Jenna Fischer]

Wow.

[Angela Kinsey]

Things you do for your baby.

[Jenna Fischer]

Back at Dunder Mifflin, Pam is trying to get Michael on her side with the chairs, but she gets interrupted by Oscar, who suddenly wants to go to lunch with Michael.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, Oscar knows exactly what he's doing. All Michael ever wants is lunch with the guys. And Jim's in on it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, this is a bold move.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

This is Michael's happiest day.

[Jenna Fischer]

Pam says it is on. It is so on. And then she puts on lipstick and she tousles her hair. What.

[Angela Kinsey]

What is the outcome of this? Just to, like, flirt with Michael and make him feel good.

[Jenna Fischer]

I don't know what she is planning, except maybe just to look at Michael with some happy eyes, to pay attention to him, laugh at his jokes. But Jim, Michael and Oscar get back from lunch and they are hiss hysterically laughing.

[Angela Kinsey]

I mean, they've had the best time.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. I mean, how is Pam going to compete with this? She tries. She goes into his office, she compliments his pants. She compliments his tie.

[Angela Kinsey]

Hot tie guy.

[Jenna Fischer]

Hot tie guy.

[Angela Kinsey]

Hot tie guy. And I love how excited Michael is to share that he got his tie for $4 and his pants for $9 at TJ Maxx.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, my gosh. That reminds me of my mom.

[Angela Kinsey]

Does it?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. So my mom and my sister, they love to Go to the outlets at Lake Ozark, Missouri. All growing up, we would go to this cabin in lake of the Ozarks in the summer, and they would head out to the outlets. I'm not a shopper person. I'm like, I'm gonna stay back. I'm gonna sit on the dock and read a book.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, I would be hitting those outlets with them.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know you would.

[Angela Kinsey]

Especially if there was, like, one of those pretzel shops and I could get a pretzel while we shopped.

[Jenna Fischer]

Of course there's a pretzel shop. Come on.

[Angela Kinsey]

Of course. Give me that cinnamon pretzel.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. So you know how nowadays they have those haul videos where? On YouTube, where people go shopping and they just take things out of their bag and they show you their haul?

[Angela Kinsey]

H A U L. Yeah. I thought you said, you know, those haul videos. I'm like, why do they film themselves walking down a hall? That's what I thought. I thought, who does that? Are they walking through the hall of the store?

[Jenna Fischer]

No, like, haul. Like, here's my haul.

[Angela Kinsey]

Here's what I got.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. They would come home and they would get their stuff out of their bags.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

And it was sort of like the haul videos because they would show every item, but part of the showing of the item would have to include the price, how much money they saved. So the retail. I got this purse that retails for $45. I got it for 12.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

This shirt, this was 70% off at Ralph Lauren. I got it for 12 bucks.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

So the whole, like, description was always saying the price with the savings. I think it was a big show for my dad, you know, so that he would feel better about any.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, your dad loves a deal.

[Jenna Fischer]

He loves a deal.

[Angela Kinsey]

This is what I know about him.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, yeah. He wouldn't want my mom to buy a $12 shirt unless she could get it for seven.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's right.

[Jenna Fischer]

You know, so we would always have to make a big show of all the money that was saved.

[Angela Kinsey]

Michael's right there with your family.

[Jenna Fischer]

He sure is. He could get in on it with my mom and my sister.

[Angela Kinsey]

Pam really did lay it on thick. There is a Michael talking head in the script right after all of this. Right. He's been taken to lunch. Pam has just complimented him, and it didn't make it in. And Jenna, I loved it. Here it is, Michael's talking head in the script. When people kiss up to you, it's very easy to get an inflated ego. You can start to believe the hype that people are saying about you. I'm not at that point yet. But I'm going to get there.

[Jenna Fischer]

But I'm going to get there. That's pretty amazing.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know.

[Jenna Fischer]

Back at Schrute Farms, they are inside the farmhouse and Angela and Dwight are arguing over what kind of butter sculpture she should have at the wedding.

[Guest/Other Speaker]

Lady.

[Angela Kinsey]

This scene was so much longer. It actually started with Andy signing a ton of paperwork. Cause he was actually signing as a witness to the wedding, but he didn't know. Oh. Dwight said it was all these insurance forms so that they could get married at Schrute Farms. And during this scene, Mose enters and there's a really awkward moment with Mose where Angela hisses at him. And then Dwight goes, why do you have to do that? It's not necessary. He loves you. And then Andy's like, well, how does he love her? How does he know her? And then Dwight's like, oh, Mose Rose loves everybody. He's a people person. And it's so much longer. And then it ends with us arguing about the butter sculptures. And once again, we could not get through it. We were laughing so hard. It's in the deleted scenes on the dvd. I'm gonna put it in stories Jenna. Cause I had to cover my face. I pull a Mindy. You can see me laughing with my hands over my face. But yes. Then they get into this. This ridiculous argument about this sculpture. And that's what made it in the actual episode.

[Jenna Fischer]

We got a fan question from Gabriella T. Who said Angela tells Dwight she wants a cat sculpture made out of cow butter for her wedding. I am from Iowa, and every year at the Iowa State Fair there is a cow butter sculpture on display. The very first cow butter was sculpted in 1911, and it has grown to be a famous tradition at the Iowa Iowa State Fair.

[Angela Kinsey]

Love it.

[Jenna Fischer]

I did a deep dive on cow butter sculptures.

[Angela Kinsey]

I want to hear it.

[Jenna Fischer]

All right. So at the Iowa State Fair every year, they make a life size cow out of butter.

[Angela Kinsey]

A whole cow?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

That's huge.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. It starts with a frame of wood, metal wire and steel mesh.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Jenna Fischer]

And then they add 600 pounds of low moisture pure cream Iowa butter. It sits in a 40 degree cooler and then layers of butter are applied until it is full sized. It measures five and a half feet high and eight feet long.

[Angela Kinsey]

What?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah, I saw pictures. It's a cow, but it's butter.

[Angela Kinsey]

I need to see the picture.

[Jenna Fischer]

I'll send it to you. So a real dairy cow weighs like a thousand pounds. The butter version weighs about 600 pounds. This butter cow could butter about 19,200 pieces of toast. And this part I'm unsure about, but every year, most of the butter from the butter cow is recycled and it can be used for up to 10 years.

[Angela Kinsey]

I hope so. That's a lot of butter. It is. Would you not use the recycled cow sculpture butter?

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, I mean. Well, I don't know.

[Angela Kinsey]

Five second rule, kind of. Not really.

[Jenna Fischer]

They also do a companion butter sculpture every year to the cow.

[Angela Kinsey]

The cow has a buddy.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

That stands next to it. Correct. What is it?

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, one year it was Elvis Presley. What a butter. Elvis. Elvis made out of butter.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jenna Fischer]

Another year it was Harry Potter.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, get out.

[Jenna Fischer]

Another year they did Star trek. And in 2018 they did a celebration of the 100th anniversary of John Deere.

[Angela Kinsey]

Was there a tractor?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my dad would have loved that.

[Jenna Fischer]

They did a replica of the Waterloo boy tractor. I took a picture and it's a tractor out of butter next to the cow.

[Angela Kinsey]

Wow. I wonder if you could climb up in it. Probably not.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, I'm not eating that recycled butter.

[Angela Kinsey]

Okay.

[Guest/Other Speaker]

Sorry to interrupt you guys. I gotta catch. I caught one thing from the start of the podcast.

[Angela Kinsey]

Hold on real quick, Okay?

[Jenna Fischer]

I just gotta fix it, okay?

[Guest/Other Speaker]

No, it's fine. Just give me one second.

[Angela Kinsey]

I can repair it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay, hold on.

[Angela Kinsey]

I knew knew you guys were gonna do something. Happy birthday, Angela.

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

Whether it's the recorded sounds of the

[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

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[Angela Kinsey]

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[Jenna Fischer]

All right, Angela, how do you feel? This is your summer first work birthday.

[Angela Kinsey]

You guys so got me. You so got me. I was so surprised. I really thought when I got here that the guitar was code for cake. And then when it wasn't, I was like, oh, well, maybe they've just all been busy and. Okay, I feel bad. I went off on that rant.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, what happened, Angela, was that we were gonna surprise you at the top of the podcast with a cookie puss cake.

[Angela Kinsey]

A Carvel cookie puss cake. Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

But there was a problem that happened. The cake got lost in transit. Poor Cassie has been hiding out here since like, 9:30 this morning waiting for this cake delivery.

[Angela Kinsey]

Poor Cassie. By the way, this is the first time we've all been in person, and it's amazing to see you, Cassie. Say hi to everyone.

[Jenna Fischer]

Hey, everybody.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yay. Yay. Well, I saw a few times you had to check your phone and text, but I thought it was all about the guitar.

[Jenna Fischer]

No, it was a panic thread about your cake.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, no.

[Jenna Fischer]

And then you called us out and we were like, no, but we had a cake, and it's jimpa Dupa. And also, Cassie put together this amazing board for you. It is all of these cards that people sent in because they heard that you did not get your birthday celebrated properly. And so people from the office lady's Facebook page sent you cards.

[Angela Kinsey]

That is so sweet. That is so sweet. They know because I was real chatty that I never had a cake at work or at school. You guys, that. That is so lovely.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, we could not let you start your 50s without a proper work birthday.

[Angela Kinsey]

Thank you guys so much. I love every single second. I was truly surprised, and I cannot wait to read all of these cards that you guys sent in. It's so lovely. I'm gonna sit down and read every single one. And thank you for my cake. A cake at work. It finally happened.

[Jenna Fischer]

It happened.

[Angela Kinsey]

It happened. Oh, my gosh.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, before we did your birthday, we were talking about butter sculptures.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know it's really hard, you guys. Now I'm like, okay, we gotta work.

[Jenna Fischer]

We still have work to do. I know.

[Angela Kinsey]

We were talking about cat butter sculptures. And y', all, I googled cat butter sculptures. And let me tell you, it does not disappoint. Google image cat butter sculptures. Can I tell you the very first one that came up? Yeah, I'm gonna show it to you. I'm gonna put it in stories. How do I describe this to you guys? This is the first one that came up for me. There's more than one. It is a cat made out of butter. Pooping butter poop next to a block of butter.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, my gosh.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, I guess it's a thing. There was more than one by different people.

[Jenna Fischer]

What's that about?

[Angela Kinsey]

I don't know. I have to think. This is not the cat butter sculpture Angela Martin would want. There's also some majestic cats out there made of butter. It was amazing. People do really weird things with butter.

[Jenna Fischer]

They do weird things with cats. There's the whole, like, litter box birthday cake. Have you seen those? Yes. Where it's a cake and it looks like litter, and then you make, like, Tootsie Rolls into poops. Poop.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

For the cat lover in your life,

[Angela Kinsey]

put that next to the butter. Cat pooping butter. Happy birthday.

[Jenna Fischer]

Next year.

[Angela Kinsey]

Next year. That's it. That's my cake. Next year, I want the cat litter box cake. All right. There was also a deleted Andy talking head after the scene. Because this would have been. If you're keeping manure count, the second pile of manure, he steps in.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's really funny, you guys. He's outside by the barn, hosing off his shoes, and he's sobbing. And he says, this just isn't how I imagined it. There's just so much. It was really funny. That is on the dvd.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh. Back at the office, Jim is watching Pam struggle with the copier. Everyone's really laying it on thick with Michael. They're making him hot chocolate. They're opening doors for him.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's the best day of his life.

[Jenna Fischer]

It really is. We had a fan question from Stephanie M. At 10 minutes, 25 seconds, Michael walks into his office. And off camera, we hear him say, I almost choked. Was that a line that was scripted, or did Steve Carell actually almost choke on his drink? It was neither. It was an improvisation. He's doing that as Michael. He was not choking. He's gonna choke later on some tiramisu powder.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's the funniest choking scene I've ever seen.

[Jenna Fischer]

Ever seen. I wanna study.

[Angela Kinsey]

I wanna study it. I so believed it at first. I thought, was that scripted? I had to go look.

[Jenna Fischer]

I had to look too.

[Angela Kinsey]

It was so brilliant. And then he did that thing. And we're jumping ahead, you guys. But after two bites that were failed attempts. Cause he's choking. He goes for a third, and then with his hands, he's like, no, no. Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

He has to stop himself.

[Angela Kinsey]

So good.

[Jenna Fischer]

Dwight is gonna take Angela to a new barn.

[Angela Kinsey]

Mm. It's beautiful.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's gorgeous. He's decorated it, like how it will be on her Wedding day with chairs and sparkly lights. Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

And Andy's like, help. Because he's happy too.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

There's a priest and no manure.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's perfect.

[Angela Kinsey]

Dwight is going to suggest that they sort of role play the ceremony. He wants Andy to get a bird's eye view. So he says, you know, you walk her down as if you're her father and she'll marry me, but, you know, so you can see what it looks like.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

And you know, the priest doesn't speak any English. He only speaks German, so they don't know what he's saying. In the script it says Angela Martin is moved to tears by this moment,

[Jenna Fischer]

I think because it is really playing out what's in her true heart, which would be what it would be like to marry Dwight.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

We had a fan question from Ellie B. In the scene where Dwight and Angela are getting married at Shrewd Farms, is the minister actually speaking German? Yes. All of the German in the scene is accurate. The actor who played the priest was post Boyd and he was cast because he was fluent in German and also because he was comfortable riding horses.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes, because he rides a horse at the end.

[Jenna Fischer]

Randy said that the actor arrived early to set that day so that he could select one of the horses and practice on it. Randy also said that they had to submit a translated version of the priest's script to the NBC legal department of Standards and Practices because we had to prove that we weren't trying. Trying to sneak in any dialogue that would be considered unacceptable to the sensors. It feels like they didn't trust us.

[Angela Kinsey]

I wonder why.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, here is the translation. The priest is saying, groom and bride, you come here voluntarily with hearts prepared to receive each other in marriage. Will you love each other, respect and be loyal to one another until death separates you? Are you ready to fulfill your obligation to raise your children as Christian parents should? So that is what Dwight and Angela are agreeing to in their marriage vows.

[Angela Kinsey]

I guess Dwight is going to forego standing in his own grave to marry her just so he can make it happen.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes, because that is truly the shrute

[Angela Kinsey]

tradition and would tip off Andy.

[Jenna Fischer]

This whole thing is going to lead into Angela getting pretty sentimental. Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

And she realizes I made a mistake with Andy.

[Jenna Fischer]

She says she made a mistake.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know. She tells Dwight, I picked the wrong guy. Dwight, man, he just messed it up.

[Jenna Fischer]

He does, because he gets real arrogant.

[Angela Kinsey]

He's like, I know. And I took care of it. I fixed it. And he sneakily had them married without her consent. And she does not like that. And does not appreciate it.

[Jenna Fischer]

No. He almost had her back.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

In that moment.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yep.

[Jenna Fischer]

But no, no.

[Angela Kinsey]

She's furious with him that he would do such a huge life moment in this sneaky way.

[Jenna Fischer]

We got a fan question from Rebecca M. Does Dwight's secret marriage actually count in the state of Pennsylvania, or did the writers make this up?

[Angela Kinsey]

Good question.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, Pennsylvania is actually one of the only states where you can do something called self unite. So Colorado also allows this. According to the American Civil Liberties Union of Pennsylvania, the tradition of self uniting in marriage dates back to 1681. It has its roots in the state's Quaker population. And because the religious sect does not have any ministers, members of the Quaker faith traditionally self unite in marriage. So these are often referred to as Quaker licenses. But self uniting licenses do not require the applicants to practice any specific religion or any religion at all. So under Pennsylvania marriage law, couples wishing to marry without an officiant can obtain a self uniting license. They can perform their own ceremony. The only rule is there have to be at least two witnesses who are required to sign the document, which Angela

[Angela Kinsey]

and Andy signed this insurance document. And I guess the priest would have signed something.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes. In this scenario, the priest and Andy were the witnesses. So this marriage was legal.

[Angela Kinsey]

How about that? This would have led to a delicious deleted car ride home scene. Lady, it's a rough one. It's right up there with a Jan Michael car ride home. All right, this was in the shooting script. It's not on the dvd. It's out there somewhere in the world. You guys, it was so amazing. Angela is driving home, furious. Dwight's in the front passenger seat. Andy is in the back leaning between the two of them. And they start out the car ride. And Andy's like, we did it. He's so happy. And he starts singing at the top of his lungs, this song. Take a deep breath, and I get real high and I scream from the top of my lungs, what's going on?

[Jenna Fischer]

That's what he's singing in the backseat.

[Angela Kinsey]

That exact part of the song is in the script, what you just heard. It's 4 non blonde. And Angela is so annoyed that Andy is singing, so she turns off the radio and Andy keeps singing and comes in with this part.

[Jenna Fischer]

That sounds like Andy to me.

[Angela Kinsey]

Right?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

In the script, it says Angela looks like she might drive the car into a tree. Dwight is stealing glances at Angela. Andy, oblivious, is singing for non blondes.

[Jenna Fischer]

Wow. How did you get through that With Ed singing in the backseat, though? How did you keep a Straight face.

[Angela Kinsey]

I'm telling you, we laughed through this whole episode. Every single thing was funny to me.

[Jenna Fischer]

This next scene is the one that I could not get through.

[Angela Kinsey]

I don't know how you did. It's one of my favorite scenes of the whole episode.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's one of my favorite scenes of the whole series.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. It's my favorite Hank scene.

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, yeah. So Michael, who can't make a decision, has decided to call Hank from security.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Who, as he explains, hustled up the stairs because he thought it was an actual emergency.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, you know, Michael texts people 911 to get their attention.

[Jenna Fischer]

So Hank arrives, and I just want to say this was one of those scenes that was set at the reception desk, and I'm in the shot, and I wanted to edge myself out of the shot because I was ruining it,

[Angela Kinsey]

because I was laughing from the minute Hugh walks in. The minute he takes a few of the candies and starts eating them, I was like, I wouldn't make it.

[Jenna Fischer]

That was an improvisation. And the first time he did it, I laughed because it was so brilliant.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's so brilliant.

[Jenna Fischer]

So Michael is gonna ask Hank, what do we do? He makes a big announcement. He's like, listen, Hank is gonna decide copier or chairs.

[Angela Kinsey]

And Hank's like, can I see the copier? Yeah. Opens up doors and stuff, looks at it, and he's like, now, let me see the chair. And the room is riveted. They're hanging on his every word.

[Jenna Fischer]

But the scene ends. Amazing. My favorite is the ending of the scene. My favorite.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, first of all, he sort of, like, explains his theory why the office would need both. There's new copiers. They're amazing. Although those chairs he could not sit in.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

And Michael's like, so. And everyone's waiting. And he goes, let me look at the copier again.

[Jenna Fischer]

Michael's like, get out. Get out, get out. It's so funny, Angela. This was the first time for office ladies that I have watched the show with my kids.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, really?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, I watch them all the time with my kids.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know, I know.

[Angela Kinsey]

But my kids are older. I know, I know.

[Jenna Fischer]

It was a pinch. And I said, guys, I have to watch this. I have to watch it. You can watch it with me, or you can go outside and scooter or something. So I turned it on. First of all, my son was just giggling through the whole thing. He's a little older, so I think he got more of the humor.

[Angela Kinsey]

The humor, yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

But this moment when he says, let me see the copier. Again. And Michael said, get out. They were dying. And then they started doing it as a bit.

[Angela Kinsey]

That is so good.

[Jenna Fischer]

It was so fun. Gosh, I'm so excited, as my kids get older, for them to discover it. Yeah, I know.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, my kids love the Office. And, you know, every once in a while, we'll watch an episode and Isabel will go, mom, because Angela Martin is so mean. And, you know, Jack, my stepson, loves Office Ladies.

[Jenna Fischer]

I know whenever I see him, he'll tell me some fun thing he heard on Office Ladies, which I love. I know.

[Angela Kinsey]

He was like, I'm so excited that you guys are gonna talk to Steven Merchant. I love that they watched it with you.

[Jenna Fischer]

So we kind of already talked about this scene where Michael is eating tiramisu while talking to David Wallace. But what we did not mention is that David gives him some new information.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, he's like, any boss that comes in under budget gets 15% of that surplus.

[Jenna Fischer]

Michael whips out his calculator, and he discovers that means he could get $645.

[Angela Kinsey]

Do you know how far that can go? At Burlington Coat Factory, you're literally a

[Jenna Fischer]

king if you walk in there with $645.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, Michael's got dollar signs now on the brain.

[Jenna Fischer]

Michael walks out of his office, and he announces that he doesn't think they need a new copier or new chairs. He demonstrates that the copier works perfectly. And then he's going to demonstrate how great Pam's chair really is.

[Angela Kinsey]

Two things. First of all, in the Bloopers, Jenna, when Steve tries to use the copier, that copier actually was really crappy.

[Jenna Fischer]

It was awful.

[Angela Kinsey]

It was really old and crappy. And half the time would not work in real life when we needed it to. When we needed it to. And it would eat paper. It would, like, make noises. And he says, this copier works fine. And he hits the button. And in real life, it went. You guys all started laughing.

[Jenna Fischer]

It was so funny. Paul Feig sent us an audio clip because this was one of his favorite memories from shooting this episode. Here's what he had to say.

[Guest/Other Speaker]

There were so many fun things in season five, but weirdly, one of my favorite episodes that we did was the Surplice. And it's an episode that people don't talk about as much. And I just think it's got some of the funniest stuff in it. I think I laughed harder during that. My favorite gag. One of my favorite gags that I ever got to do on the Office was when Michael's Trying to. To convince everybody that they don't need a new copier. And all the chairs are good. And we have that gag, Jenna, where he comes behind the desk and just tries to prove that your chair's not broken. And I had them rig up this thing because the whole joke is supposed to be, he sits on your chair and it just sinks down below the desk. And so worked really hard to have them rig this chair up that sunk so slowly that Steve just got in it and is just talking like, Steve, there's nothing wrong with this. And you just. It takes you a few seconds to realize that he's just very slowly sinking down behind the desk. And then just. Steve just destroyed me. When not only is he down low, but he won't admit it. And then he has to stand up is like. Like, it takes such effort for him to get out of the very low chair. So that was a real favorite gag of mine.

[Jenna Fischer]

Well, every time he would get out of the chair, he would make some other different grunting noise, and it would do me in. If you watch my face in this scene, I have this really, like, over exaggerated furrowed brow. I was having to make a very strong acting choice because I couldn't do blank. I couldn't do it. I had to do something with my face.

[Angela Kinsey]

Right. I had completely forgotten about this scene. And when I rewatched it. Cause it's been a long time since I've seen this episode. And when I rewatched it this week, I was like, watching it and I was like, wait, is this chair sinking? Oh, my God, it's chair sinking. And it was so funny. It was so funny. And it's so subtle. It's such a small moment.

[Jenna Fischer]

And in order to make it work, I could not be sitting on the chair at the beginning of the scene. So it looks like I'm sitting, and then he comes over and takes my feet. Did you have to squat? I had to squat. Thigh workout and hold my butt and hover. And you can tell a little bit because in order to do it, I kind of had to, like, you know, really, like, spread my legs to get, like, a good solid squat on the chair. Above the chair.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. It's like going to the bathroom in a porta Potty.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Halfway through your pee, like, your legs start shaking. You're like, oh, crap, I need to work out more.

[Jenna Fischer]

This was a workout day for me.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my gosh.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's how we pulled off that gay. Also, in this moment, everyone starts to realize that Michael knows about the bonus Oscar calls.

[Angela Kinsey]

Him out. He's like, I think, you know. And he's like, what's 15% of 4300? That's the surplus. And Michael immediately goes, $645.

[Jenna Fischer]

And he's like, why'd you say dollars? Michael's like, that's just how my brain works.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

And Kevin goes, he's a genius. But then Oscar says, okay, Michael, what's 15% of 200? And then Michael doesn't know.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

That little bit of Kevin thinking that Michael is a math genius. In that moment, Paul Feek said him and his wife Laurie love that little bit. And that they do that bit that, like, if someone says something, they'll be like, he's a genius.

[Angela Kinsey]

Aw. They do, Kevin.

[Jenna Fischer]

That's their little bit. All of this leads to a very big smooch.

[Angela Kinsey]

Andy and Dwight and Angela have returned to the office. Yeah. And once you piss Angela off, she's gonna dig in her heels.

[Jenna Fischer]

Mm.

[Angela Kinsey]

And she's gonna make a very public show to Dwight that she has chosen, once again, Andy over him.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. So Andy is eating a tuna sandwich that he's real proud of. He wants Jim to know. Tuna. I'm eating tuna. And Angela marches across the bullpen and kisses him. He's leaning back in his chair.

[Angela Kinsey]

She lays on his lap and grabs his face.

[Jenna Fischer]

Do you know what the stage direction was for this kiss?

[Angela Kinsey]

Read it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Angela kisses Andy with a passion we haven't seen since Jim and Pam in Casino Night.

[Angela Kinsey]

I know. I read that.

[Jenna Fischer]

We had a lot of questions about this scene, though, Angela.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, well, I bet I have some stories for you.

[Jenna Fischer]

Dory C. And Amanda C. Both want to know, did Ed actually have tuna in his mouth when you kissed him?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. That was. That was part of the joke. Lee and Jean, who wrote this episode, they thought it would be very funny if Andy was eating something gross when I had to go kiss him. And that's why he has that line, look, tuna. Tuna fish sandwich, just like you. Because they really wanted to make sure the audience knew he was eating this smelly tuna fish sandwich. And I was supposed to go over and we're supposed to have this huge kiss while he has tuna fish in his mouth. And then you see me get up and I wipe my mouth.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

Ed was so sweet. He said, angela, I am going to hold my lips together. I'm going to take a deep breath. I'm going to take a bite of the tuna fish sandwich, and then I am going to purse my lips together and not open them at all, because I don't want you to get any of this tuna fish. I was like, aw, Ed, that is so sweet. And so we literally did what we call grandparent kissing, where you just like. He did not open his lips for a second. And they really wanted me to sort of have this long kiss, Right?

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah.

[Angela Kinsey]

And I was in control. I was the one that grabbed him, and then I was the one that released him. And I remember one time they were like, can you sell it a little bit more? Can you make it a little bit. Bit bigger of a moment? And poor Ed. The minute we broke apart, he went, oh.

[Jenna Fischer]

Because he hadn't been breathing, he was

[Angela Kinsey]

holding his breath with a big bite of tuna fish sandwich in his mouth.

[Jenna Fischer]

Here's my question. Couldn't Phil have made fakie tuna fish?

[Angela Kinsey]

I don't know. Would that have been better?

[Jenna Fischer]

I don't know. I mean, what could it have been?

[Angela Kinsey]

I don't know.

[Jenna Fischer]

You could have maybe. I mean, whatever it is, it's gonna be mayo based, but it could have been chopped up chicken. That's so gross. But it's not as stinky.

[Angela Kinsey]

It's true. But Ed was a true gentleman. He kept his mouth closed. I didn't get any tuna fish on my person. And you guys, when my character stands up and says, and now I have a legal issue to attend to, I actually had a big speech that got deleted.

[Jenna Fischer]

Really?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. And I was so nervous to do it because it was one of those moments where I had a speech in the bullpen with everyone looking at me. This is how the script described everyone reacting to the kiss and my speech after.

[Jenna Fischer]

Okay.

[Angela Kinsey]

Everyone watches with disgust. Dwight's eyes go wide. Angela pulls away. Andy continues to chew and then swallows the bite. Angela wipes her mouth and hears the speech. I would marry you during an earthquake in the middle of a tornado. I would marry you in the front row of an Elton John concert. I don't care how terrible a place it is. I just want to be with you. Now I have a legal matter to clear up.

[Jenna Fischer]

Not an Elton John fan, clearly.

[Angela Kinsey]

Clearly not. But yeah. So I had that speech I had to do, and they gave me a few alts, you know, and I was really nervous. But all that made it in was now I have a legal matter to clear up. And I actually think that was a good edit because the kiss was enough. Yeah, right. That was enough of, like, shoving it in Dwight's face. I didn't need to make this speech. But yes, no tuna. Thank you, Ed.

[Jenna Fischer]

Very different from a kiss with rain,

[Angela Kinsey]

who actually was eating Tuna in real

[Jenna Fischer]

life, backstage, for no reason at all, knowing he is before a kissing scene.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. That are drinking coffee while eating, like, an everything bagel that had onions on it.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. Different.

[Angela Kinsey]

Very different approaches.

[Jenna Fischer]

This whole copier chair thing is gonna wrap up. The employees are gonna confront Michael in his office, and he basically tells them, you know what? You decide. You all have to agree or else I'm taking the bonus. Because he kind of thinks, like, there's no way that's gonna happen. Right.

[Angela Kinsey]

Of course he thinks there's no way. He thinks he got him.

[Jenna Fischer]

They very quickly decide to get the chairs.

[Angela Kinsey]

He was like, son of a.

[Jenna Fischer]

He actually says mother.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. He does f. Was he putting sugar in his Diet Coke?

[Jenna Fischer]

He was, yeah. He wanted to sweeten it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Oh, my Lord.

[Jenna Fischer]

The whole thing kind of ends with Michael. He has a talking head. He wants you to know what he learned.

[Angela Kinsey]

What did he learn?

[Jenna Fischer]

He learned that his team is faster at making a decision than he thought. He also learned you should never buy a fur coat with a credit card until you actually have the money to pay for it.

[Angela Kinsey]

Michael, why in the world are you buying a fur coat? You're never gonna wear it.

[Jenna Fischer]

It's ridiculous looking.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yes. He's just like a kid that gets money and doesn't know what to do with it.

[Jenna Fischer]

In his mind, that's. I don't know, fancy luxury or something.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah, fancy people have those or something.

[Jenna Fischer]

I guess so. The third thing he learned is that people think it's cool to throw fake blood on you as you leave Burlington Coat Factory. So he has a ruined fur coat that he bought on credit that he can't afford. Yeah. That's how his day ended.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah.

[Jenna Fischer]

Jim and Pam's day is going to end with a truce, but. Oh, can you make me three copies of this? I'm just kidding. I need four.

[Angela Kinsey]

Is this Jim sass?

[Jenna Fischer]

Oh, that's some Jim sass.

[Angela Kinsey]

I have one final question for you.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yes.

[Angela Kinsey]

Would you be team copier or team chair?

[Jenna Fischer]

Team chair. What would you be?

[Angela Kinsey]

Team chair.

[Jenna Fischer]

Yeah. Team copier doesn't even make any sense to me, frankly.

[Angela Kinsey]

I mean, I would just suffer through a crappy machine. How many times have you worked in an office where either the fax machine, I know I'm a dinosaur. Or the copier didn't work great, But a chair that's like your tailbone, that's your spine, that's your butt.

[Jenna Fischer]

Is anyone team copier? Can we put a poll in office ladies pod today?

[Angela Kinsey]

Yeah. Yes.

[Jenna Fischer]

I'm so curious.

[Angela Kinsey]

I'll put a poll and we'll see.

[Jenna Fischer]

We want to see.

[Angela Kinsey]

Well, you guys, that was spend the

[Jenna Fischer]

surplus and also Angela's birthday. Yay, Angela.

[Angela Kinsey]

Yay. Next time I talk to you guys, I'll be American surveyed 50 to 75. That'll be me.

[Jenna Fischer]

See you next week.

[Angela Kinsey]

Bye.

[Jenna Fischer]

Thank you for listening to Office Ladies.

[Angela Kinsey]

Second Drink this episode was initially created in collaboration with Earwolf.

[Jenna Fischer]

Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey. Our senior producer is Matt Beagle.

[Angela Kinsey]

Our Second Drinks episodes are produced by Molly Nugent.

[Jenna Fischer]

Our audio engineer is Sam Kiefer.

[Angela Kinsey]

Odyssey's executive producer is Leah Reese. Dennis.

[Jenna Fischer]

Office Ladies was mixed and mastered by Bill Schultz.

[Angela Kinsey]

Our theme song is Rubber Tree by Creed Bratton.

[Jenna Fischer]

Spring just slid into your DMs.

[Angela Kinsey]

Grab that boho. Look for that rooftop dinner, those sandals that can keep up with you.

[Jenna Fischer]

And hang some string lights to give your patio a glow up. Spring's calling, Ross. Work your magic.

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