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Jenna Fischer
Welcome to a very special Friday episode of Office Ladies.
Angela Kinsey
It is Friday, but it is is not Friday chit chat. It's a little something different.
Jenna Fischer
You all know that the long awaited, much anticipated television show the Paper is premiering on Peacock September 4th. And as you also know, we got exclusive access to the set. You know, there are gonna be 10 episodes of the Paper. I think we visited somewhere around episode.
Angela Kinsey
Eight, and we brought along our portable microphone and we got interviews with several cast members. We weren't able to interview everyone, unfortunately, people were in scenes, so we were pulling people in and out of scenes. But we did get to talk to a lot of folks.
Jenna Fischer
So in anticipation of the premiere next month, we are going to start dropping those cast interviews every Friday. So today we are going to get to hear from Domhnall Gleason. You might know him from his movies Ex Machina or as General Hux in Star Rise of the Resistance. He also starred in the miniseries the Patient with Steve Carell and the movie Fountain of Youth with John Krasinski. This is such a fun interview. He talks all about his character on the Paper and his experience shooting the show.
Angela Kinsey
We were so tickled to meet him. Oh, my gosh. Okay. The other thing we wanted to let y' all know is that we only had one microphone, so you might hear us passing our single microphone back and forth a little. But our friends at Odyssey did a great job cleaning up the sound. You know, we really did this with that sort of man on the street style feel.
Jenna Fischer
Yes, we were like on the fly reporters.
Angela Kinsey
Yes. With our one microphone.
Jenna Fischer
Well, we are just so excited to finally get to share these with you. And very soon, Greg said we could get an early access sneak peek of the show. They are gonna send us a screener for the paper.
Angela Kinsey
I know that's right. We're gonna watch it and do a breakdown of the pilot episode, so be on the lookout for that, too. But now here's our chat with Donal Gleason.
Jenna Fischer
All right.
Angela Kinsey
Hello.
Jenna Fischer
Will you please tell us your name and your character name?
Domhnall Gleeson
My name is Donal Gleason, and I'm playing Ned Sampson in the paper.
Angela Kinsey
Can you tell us a little bit about your character and what your role is in the world of the paper?
Domhnall Gleeson
Sure. So Ned, as the series begins, is arriving at the paper. So the first day that the documentary crew arrive at the paper is Ned's first day on the job, and he is arriving to be the new editor in chief of the paper. He is very low on experience, but high on intensity and intention and hope. He's quite an optimistic person. And he arrives into a place that's not all that enthused about being a paper, and he wants to make it something special. That's his idea.
Jenna Fischer
What is his relationship to the documentary being done?
Domhnall Gleeson
I think he likes the notion that the documentary crew are around because it means if there are good moments, they're there for posterity. And if there are bad moments, I think it probably heightens his awareness of how bad it feels.
Angela Kinsey
We always ask everyone how they got their job, like on the Office, their sort of audition story. Can you share with us how you got your job on the paper?
Domhnall Gleeson
It was great. They sent me the first script, and I asked if I wanted to chat, and I said sure. And I talked to them for, I think, 20 minutes. And I think I thought maybe they were sort of interviewing me. And then when I was chatting to them, it felt more like they thought I was interviewing them. It felt funny that way. And then they offered me their part. It was great.
Jenna Fischer
What, over these 10 episodes, can you share with us that, I don't know, any moments, any storylines that you've enjoyed or have been a challenge? Anything at all?
Domhnall Gleeson
Well, I think we're kind of doing a. I think his relationship to the paper is the most important thing. I think, in a way, he's got a lot of romance about what it is to be a part of a paper and what it should be, despite overwhelming odds and the fact that the newspaper industry, for the most part, is dying. So trying to do something where he can still be hopeful and still be intelligent in some ways, and yet enough to undercut it and find the humor in all of that, I think that's been the. The journey.
Jenna Fischer
On the Office, we were encouraged to do improvisation. We were encouraged to pitch ideas to the writers. Is it that same kind of environment here?
Domhnall Gleeson
I mean, it feels like we're only 10 episodes right for the first season, and they're pretty. The Office was almost secretly plotted. When you watch episodes of the Office, they don't feel like plot heavy or story heavy. They feel very character driven. Even though there is a lot of story holding all that up on this one, I think there's almost like a lot of the time it's the story of the week in terms of they're chasing down a particular story or whatever like that. So actually, there's quite a lot of story points to get across in every scene. So I think that the improv, it's really fun when we get to do it, but actually there's a load of information that needs to come out in every scene. And so I think it feels. So far, the tracks might be a little bit more set. Maybe that's more for Ned, I think for my character than for other people because he's trying to push that stuff forward. But I could be wrong on that. I'm not sure.
Angela Kinsey
No, I get that. My character usually had something very specific she had to give to the scene. And so if I ever got an improv in, it would be at the very top or the very end when I was already done giving information. And I think some characters, that's their role is they come in, they have a purpose and then they don't hang out as much. Mine did. I know your is a bigger role, but I still got very excited when one or two would make it in.
Jenna Fischer
I mean I feel like we improvised a lot and a lot of that improvisation never saw the light of day. So there was. But there was just that feeling of fun and spontaneity. Yes. That then would seep into the scripted work because we would play around at the top or play around at the bottom of the scene. It would help us get loose.
Domhnall Gleeson
I think that's the ideal scenario as well. But it's also like, it's also the schedule man is full on. And so we're squishing a lot. You know, they're 42 page scripts, you know, so it's like we're getting a lot. There can be between 38 and 42 for the most part. And you know, I know it's similar for everybody but like there's a lot just in a day, there's a lot to get through. So my favorite days are the days where like the dynamic of the scene is clear from the top and you can play in that sort of sample. Like that's where you know where you are and then you can really bounce things around or group scenes. There's a lot of that. And then yeah, it just depends on the scene. But I'm also just still getting to know it. It's a new process for me.
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I don't know if it is normal to have an attachment to a lunch meat, but I really love Boar's Head brand lunch meats.
Angela Kinsey
You're not weird lady. You're just someone who likes a good sandwich and some good lunch meat.
Jenna Fischer
It's our go to for our kids lunches and it's our go to for our lunches.
Angela Kinsey
Same. Josh often makes me a lunch that I bring into the podcast and many times it is a sandwich with Boar's Head Oven Gold Turkey.
Jenna Fischer
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Angela Kinsey
Okay.
Jenna Fischer
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Angela Kinsey
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Domhnall Gleeson
My training I can tell you about very quickly because I have none. But my father is an actor and I fell into it in that really lucky a way that is unfair, basically. But I read a script by Martin McDonough when I was like 19. His agent sent me a script and I did that. So I auditioned for it, got the part and did that in London and in the West End and then went to Broadway once I was done with college.
Jenna Fischer
Can you say the name of the play?
Domhnall Gleeson
Yeah, it was called the Lieutenant of Inish Moore. And it was like a lot of Tony nominations and it was a very successful play. And then after that, took a big dip in terms of. I think that quality of written work is so rare that actually I wasn't built to make the most out of scripts that weren't that great after that because I was spoiled. And so. Yeah. So then things slowed down and then slowly built back up and then I started doing more movies and stuff like that. And that's been great. I've been very incredibly lucky.
Jenna Fischer
I can't believe that you're first job in the business was a Martin McDonough play in the West End. I just need you to repeat that for me one more time.
Domhnall Gleeson
It was that, so. And actually, I don't think I would be an actor if I hadn't read that. That script was the funniest thing I'd ever read, which is insane. So I just read it all the time for fun. I was getting ready for an audition, but when I read it, I was like, imagine being able to do that. That is the funniest thing I've ever read. It was a very dark comedy about the IRA in Ireland, about terrorism. So as dark a subject matter as you can get, basically. And yet it was the funniest, most punk rock thing I'd ever read. It was fantastic.
Jenna Fischer
I love that play. I love him as a writer. I saw a production of it. Not with you, unfortunately. I wish I had, but it is. That's pretty freaking cool that that was your first acting role.
Domhnall Gleeson
Yeah. The last scene in that play is me and another character cutting off the bodies of everybody else who's been in the play up to that point.
Jenna Fischer
It's a very bloody ending.
Domhnall Gleeson
The Lights come up and just there's body parts everywhere and we're like, literally cutting bodies up, which is incredibly grisly, but it is. I've never. Still have not heard a reaction from an audience like it. When the lights would come up, it was like gasps and people saying, holy. And what, like. People like. It didn't feel like what I thought the theatre was. It felt so vital and so funny and. Yeah, love, Martin.
Jenna Fischer
Would you. Would you like to do more theatre?
Domhnall Gleeson
I mean, I've kept it up over the years, but I'd say once every sort of three or four years. So the last two plays I did were by another genius of Irish playwriting called Enda Walsh. One of those was a big farce and one of those was an absolute, still very funny moment in A Bit of Real Tragedy. He's another genius. So, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I like doing theater, but once every three or four years, then it works.
Angela Kinsey
Do you have sort of a dark sense of humor if you're sort of drawn to that? Because I know I love dark comedy. But is that something like you particularly like yourself?
Domhnall Gleeson
Most certainly. I would say that's probably where most of my. Yeah, that's what I would laugh at most. And that's funny then, because Ned in this is not a dark character at all. He's very optimistic and all that. So it's actually coming from a different place, which is, again, really fallen.
Angela Kinsey
This is a question, and I don't know if it applies to this story because we don't know much about it, but we would do so many scenes in a conference room and we would be there all day for five days in a tiny room, and you get punchy, you start to overshare. Do you have in this show, is there a space where you all gather?
Domhnall Gleeson
Well, we have our own sort of conference room, sort of a setup. And anytime when we are there, that's where we'll kind of hang out in between. But actually, I think our set. Is our set bigger than your set?
Angela Kinsey
Much, much bigger.
Domhnall Gleeson
So there's not quite the same thing of being on top of each other. There's a lot of kind of. But like, yes, you end up with sort of groups chatting, depending on who's in. And actually, as it's gone along, there are not lots of days where everybody's in at the same time. I mean, there might be one day a week when everybody's in at the same time. For the most part, we're kind of spread out and slightly separate storylines, but, yeah, it's Such a lovely group. It's very nice to hang out when we've time.
Jenna Fischer
Do you have to do a lot of background work for other people's scenes? Do you have to sit at your desk a lot and just kind of be busy?
Domhnall Gleeson
So, yes, it certainly happens, but my desk is. My office is over in the corner and is hidden away from a lot of the bullpen. So you could be passing through stuff or you could be there in the background of certain shots. But, yeah, everybody does background work for everybody else. But my character tends to be on or off. There's not a lot of middle territory.
Jenna Fischer
You're so lucky. When you saw that desk, were you just so pleased?
Angela Kinsey
You were like, oh, sweet. I'm not going to be in the background of half the day, depending which way they're shooting.
Domhnall Gleeson
Yeah, I mean, you know, they're still like, you know, you're in. I mean. Yeah, I'm in most the time, so. Yeah.
Angela Kinsey
Yeah, I know. I would think, oh, I'm not in this scene. I'm tiny. I'm behind the partition. No one's going to see me. And they'd be like, angela's at the copier. I'm like, again, like, how many times is my character at the copier?
Jenna Fischer
I remember talking to Will Arnett about Arrested Development, and he said that had a really big cast and. And if you watch later seasons of Arrested Development, he said, you'll see that, like, five of us are all stacked in a line because we didn't want to have to do more than, like, two setups of coverage. He's like, so later seasons of Arrested Development, we realized our days could be shorter if we all just bunch up in a line and talk to the other characters. So it'll be like all of the children, rather. They used to spread out around the room, but then they'd have to cover it. And he was like, we shaved a good three, four hours off our days.
Domhnall Gleeson
Yeah. Like, everyone's singing the national anthem. Yeah. Yeah, it's funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's funny. Yeah. No, there's definitely. Yeah, there's definitely days like that on this. But it's. I think we all knew, like, you know, like, Greg did your show. Like, we all knew the deal. Like, you're kind of signing up for an office job. You're kind of signing up for office hours when you. When you sign up for the job. That's just. That's just part of it. So I don't mind, you know.
Jenna Fischer
And also, you're signing up for last minute. Script changes, last minute scripts. We would get scripts and we'd have a table read and we think that's what we're shooting. And I'd start to memorize my lines and then in hair and makeup, they'd hand me a different scene. Or some weeks we would start the week with a few scenes and get the full script on Wednesday. Bonkers. But that's the madness of it.
Angela Kinsey
But also I think the genius of Greg, too.
Domhnall Gleeson
Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. I think for the most part, we got our scripts the Saturday before we start on the Monday, so that's the weekend. What you do is prepare for the week and then there's changes that kind of come along as we go, but it changes all the time. And again, I think the whole process is new. It's new for Greg because it's him and Coleman making it now and a whole new cast of characters and stuff like that. So it's all. I think we're just finding our way and finding what makes the show tick.
Angela Kinsey
Well, we can't wait to see it. I'm so excited. This has been so wonderful. Thank you for taking your time out of your day. And we're really big fans. We're trying to be cool, but I don't know how I'm really being cool because you're just really an amazing talent. And so thank you for letting us talk to you.
Domhnall Gleeson
I don't deal well with compliments, but that was incredibly nice of you. You're both wonderful and your show is wonderful. And it feels so dumb in a way to be doing a show that has anything to do with that because you did your show so well and so beautifully. And hopefully we'll make something different enough that people will be able to kind of treat it as its own thing because otherwise there's no winning. You know what I mean? Like, what you did was absolutely incredible. So, yeah, thank you for having me on the show, dude.
Angela Kinsey
Thank you so much. So fun. I love to. You see about when he first met with Greg and Michael, how he said at one point they weren't sure who was interviewing who.
Jenna Fischer
Yes. That was very funny. And I just loved geeking out with him over theater.
Angela Kinsey
I know you did.
Jenna Fischer
I still can't believe that story. I mean, that's wild. Okay, everyone, we hope you enjoyed that. Please join us next Friday for our interview with Chelsea Frye. Thank you for listening to Office Ladies.
Angela Kinsey
Office Ladies is a presentation of Odyssey and is produced by Jenna Fisher and Angela Kinsey.
Jenna Fischer
Our executive producer is Cassie Jerkins, our audio engineer. Is Sam Kiefer and our associate producer is Ainslie Bubaco.
Angela Kinsey
Odyssey's executive producer is Leah Reese Dennis.
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Office Ladies was mixed and mastered by Bill Schultz.
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Office Ladies Episode Summary: "The Paper Interviews #1 with Domhnall Gleeson"
Release Date: August 8, 2025
In this special episode of Office Ladies, hosts Jenna Fischer and Angela Kinsey dive into an exclusive interview with acclaimed actor Domhnall Gleeson, discussing his role in the highly anticipated Peacock series, The Paper. This episode offers fans an in-depth look at Gleeson's character, his experiences on set, and the parallels between The Paper and the beloved hit show, The Office.
Office Ladies once again delivers exclusive content for fans of The Office, this time expanding its scope to include insights into related projects. In "The Paper Interviews #1 with Domhnall Gleeson," Jenna and Angela explore the intricacies of Gleeson's character and his contributions to the new series.
Jenna and Angela kick off the episode by introducing The Paper, a new television show premiering on Peacock. They reveal their unique access to the set, having interviewed several cast members during the shoot of the series' tenth episode. This behind-the-scenes access sets the stage for their conversation with Domhnall Gleeson.
Domhnall Gleeson introduces his character, Ned Sampson, highlighting Ned's role as the new editor-in-chief of the paper within the series.
Domhnall Gleeson (04:33): "Ned, as the series begins, is arriving at the paper. So the first day that the documentary crew arrive at the paper is Ned's first day on the job, and he is arriving to be the new editor in chief of the paper."
Ned is characterized by his optimism and high intentions, striving to revitalize a struggling newspaper industry amidst challenging odds.
Domhnall Gleeson (06:30): "He's quite an optimistic person. And he arrives into a place that's not all that enthused about being a paper, and he wants to make it something special. That's his idea."
Gleeson shares his audition story, providing a glimpse into how he secured the role.
Domhnall Gleeson (05:51): "They sent me the first script, and I asked if I wanted to chat, and I said sure. And I talked to them for, I think, 20 minutes. And I think I thought maybe they were sort of interviewing me. And then when I was chatting to them, it felt more like they thought I was interviewing them. It felt funny that way. And then they offered me their part. It was great."
Delving into the narrative arc, Gleeson discusses the show's focus on Ned's relationship with the paper and the broader context of the declining newspaper industry.
Domhnall Gleeson (06:30): "I think his relationship to the paper is the most important thing. ... trying to do something where he can still be hopeful and still be intelligent in some ways, and yet enough to undercut it and find the humor in all of that."
He emphasizes the blend of optimism and humor in the face of industry decline, highlighting the series' balance between drama and comedy.
The conversation shifts to the creative process on set, particularly regarding improvisation and script dynamics.
Domhnall Gleeson (07:17): "The Office was almost secretly plotted... even though there is a lot of story holding all that up on this one, I think there's almost like a lot of the time it's the story of the week."
Gleeson notes that while The Office focused on character-driven stories with room for improvisation, The Paper requires a more structured approach due to its plot-heavy nature.
Domhnall Gleeson (09:02): "I think that's the ideal scenario as well. But it's also like, it's also the schedule man is full on. ... there's a lot just in a day, there's a lot to get through."
Despite the rigorous schedule and extensive scripting, Gleeson appreciates moments of spontaneity that enhance the authenticity of the performances.
Gleeson provides insight into his journey as an actor, starting with his theatrical roots.
Domhnall Gleeson (13:17): "My training I can tell you about very quickly because I have none. But my father is an actor and I fell into it in that really lucky a way that is unfair, basically."
He recounts his debut in Martin McDonagh's play "The Lieutenant of Inishmore," reflecting on its dark comedy and lasting impact on his career.
Domhnall Gleeson (14:36): "It was a very dark comedy about the IRA in Ireland... it was the funniest thing I've ever read."
Discussing the ensemble cast, Gleeson describes the collaborative environment on set.
Domhnall Gleeson (17:09): "We have our own sort of conference room, sort of a setup. ... it's a lovely group. It's very nice to hang out when we've time."
He highlights the balance between individual storylines and collective interactions, fostering a supportive atmosphere among the cast.
Gleeson touches upon the demands of filming, including background work and scene preparation.
Domhnall Gleeson (17:57): "Yes, certainly happens... Everybody does background work for everybody else. But my character tends to be on or off. There's not a lot of middle territory."
This aspect underscores the collaborative effort required to bring the series to life, emphasizing the importance of each cast member's role.
As the interview concludes, Gleeson expresses admiration for Office Ladies and acknowledges the challenge of differentiating The Paper from The Office.
Domhnall Gleeson (21:12): "You did your show so well and so beautifully. And hopefully we'll make something different enough that people will be able to treat it as its own thing because otherwise there's no winning."
His reflections highlight the respect between the two shows and the desire to carve out a unique identity for The Paper.
Jenna and Angela wrap up the episode by expressing their excitement for the premiere of The Paper and teasing future interviews with other cast members. This episode not only enriches fans' understanding of Domhnall Gleeson's role but also builds anticipation for the new series' release.
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Stay tuned for the next episode of Office Ladies, featuring an interview with Chelsea Frye. Don't miss out on more exclusive behind-the-scenes stories and insights into your favorite characters and the people who bring them to life.