On Purpose with Jay Shetty

Episode: KRIS JENNER: The Untold Story of Family, Love, and Forgiveness
Date: November 17, 2025
Host: Jay Shetty
Guest: Kris Jenner

Episode Overview

In this heartfelt and intimate conversation, Jay Shetty sits down with Kris Jenner for her most comprehensive interview yet. Together, they explore Kris’s upbringing, motherhood, business acumen, the complexities of love and forgiveness, and the central role of family. With vulnerability and humor, Kris reminisces on childhood lessons, generational wisdom, the challenges of blended families, and maintaining grace and gratitude through life’s messiest moments.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Kris’s Early Influences and Upbringing

• Strong Female Role Models: Kris highlights how her mother and grandmother, both entrepreneurial and business-minded, shaped her values and ambitions.
  • "I was really raised by my mom and my grandmother and two really strong businesswomen who worked and showed me how powerful that can be... They taught their children and grandchildren how to be strong, intelligent, caring, loving moms, but also working women." (05:00)
• Early Instincts for Family: From the age of 16, Kris knew she wanted a large family.
  • "I actually had the number six in my head at that very early age." (07:09)
• Working from a Young Age: Gift-wrapping in her grandmother’s candle store and developing a meticulous, hard-working approach to any task.
  • "She taught me that no matter what you do, you do the best job you can possibly do..." (12:05)

Memorable Moment

• Kris describes her joy in gift-wrapping and her family’s competitive Christmas wrapping tradition.
  (13:29 – 14:34)

2. Lessons from Odd Jobs and Flight Attendant Days

• Valuable Skills: Kris credits her time as a flight attendant and working odd jobs for developing organizational, negotiation, and people skills that later served her in business and motherhood.
  • "You just hone different life skills at the different things you do at a young age, especially in the workforce." (16:26)
• Every Experience Matters: The importance of learning from every job, regardless of status or glamour.
  • "Just expect nothing but breathe in everything... I was like a sponge and had to surrender to the process." (17:45)

3. On Gratitude, Presence, and Slowing Down

• Gratitude as a Practice: Kris emphasizes actively practicing gratitude, being present, and not letting life’s speed and distractions get in the way.
  • "To really be conscious of being grateful has been something I’ve worked on... because we can be so easily distracted. Everybody’s going so fast... I feel like everybody needs to slow down." (19:00)
• Tension with Technology: Kris contrasts her childhood (pre-cell phones and Internet) with the complexities modern generations face—especially her grandchildren growing up with social media.
  • "The world we live in is wild and amazing...but I worry a little bit, I worry a lot about my grandchildren and social media, that scares me a bit because it can be so dark." (29:13)

4. Celebrating Each Decade and Embracing Purpose

• Work as Purpose: Kris credits her mother and grandmother for modeling that working into old age gave them structure and happiness.
  • "I learned a lot from my family, from my grandmother and my mom, who both worked until they were in their 80s... it gave her great purpose and joy." (30:56)
• Family as Anchor: Kris reflects on the privilege and support of “doing life and business together” with her children.
  • "It would be so hard if there was just one of us [in the public eye]... I feel super blessed that I have this incredibly fabulous family and all this love and support." (31:46)

5. Cultivating Non-Competitive, Loving Family Dynamics

• Supporting Passions: Kris discusses her role in helping the kids try different paths, supporting their passions, and celebrating even small wins together.
  • "When someone is successful, we're all excited for that person's success, no matter how it comes... there really isn’t any jealousy, which makes me really proud." (36:33)
• No Envy or Jealousy: She attributes this to modeling and encouraging an abundance mindset and collective celebration of each other.
  • "Somebody’s success in my family is sort of a halo effect... it is good for everyone, and especially business-wise, but it’s just really good for all of us personally." (37:40)

6. Navigating Love, Divorce, and Forgiveness

• Radical Acceptance of Ex-Partners: Kris maintains deep bonds with her children’s former partners, acknowledging the importance of continued love and communication for the sake of the grandchildren and family unity.
  • "These are, in most cases, the fathers of my grandchildren. I love these men and that love doesn’t go away when we experience really challenging times with them." (55:26, and again at 02:06)
• Forgiveness as Core Value:
  • "I think if people can’t come from a place of forgiveness, then they’ll be stuck forever... You need to let it go. It’s not good for your soul." (43:09, 59:46)
• Communication and Compassion:
  • "You have to understand where somebody's coming from... communication and compassion are key." (41:25–43:09)
• Emotional Moment: Kris tears up discussing the pain and necessity of loving family members even when paths diverge or conflict arises.
  • [Tears and voice breaking while discussing forgiveness and compassion.] (41:42–43:09)

7. On Mental Health and Helping Others

• Observations on Mental Health: Kris expresses concern about the prevalence of mental health struggles, particularly among youth and within families. She speaks with compassion for families affected by suicide and emphasizes the importance of not exacerbating suffering through judgment or negativity online.
  • "There are a lot of people out there who struggle with their mental health, and we don't know sometimes what the difference is because we're not inside their brain or body... I have a lot of compassion for people..." (45:37)
• Desire to Do More:
  • "It just really is so upsetting...I struggle with that in my heart because I just wish there was more that we all could do...maybe there was a way that we could help in a bigger way." (47:02)

8. Parenting Insights & Generational Wisdom

• Allowing Individuality: Kris describes her efforts to let each of her six children develop in their own way, emphasizing individual attention and time together during each child’s formative years.
  • "It's such a personal thing...every single child was obviously had their own amazing personality..." (73:38)
• Big Families, Sibling Support: She shares how the older siblings (especially Khloé) helped raise the younger ones, and how intentional she was about not letting anyone be “the lonely last one.”
  • "I didn’t want somebody to be left without their...I had different litters, but they had different pals..." (77:28–77:41)
• Strength in Numbers: Advocates the joys and benefits of raising a large, interconnected family.
  (77:12–77:15)

9. Faith, Prayer, and Daily Rituals

• Prayer as Grounding Practice: Kris describes praying before making important decisions and as a way to express gratitude and center herself.
  • "Dear God, please surround me with your angels...help me to see what you want me to see and be the person I need to be today." (60:28)
• Gratitude and Groundedness: She wakes up and goes to bed with prayers of thanks, aligning her energy for the day.
  (61:51)

10. Personal and Business Growth: Learning from Mistakes

• Growth Through Challenge: Kris stresses that the hardest times brought her the most evolution and strength, refusing to erase her mistakes or struggles, seeing them as necessary for her current joy.
  • "The hardest times...those are the times I experienced the most growth as a person. I've made so many mistakes, and I'm not always right..." (62:45–64:05)
• Letting Go and Protecting Peace: Learning not to overreact or try to control uncontrollable things, using Dr. Amen's "rule of 12" before allowing herself to complain.
  • "If you can't control something, I've got to let it go...when I can't control something, I get annoyed...So Dr. Amen said, I'm gonna give you the rule of 12. You have to wait until something goes wrong for the 12th time, and then you can let loose." (65:03–66:17)
• Maintaining Perspective: Keeping daily frustrations in perspective as compared to real, significant problems.
  (68:14–69:07)

11. Notable Parenting & Life Advice

• Lead With Your Heart:
  • "Lead with your heart." (Final Five, 95:01)
• Bad Advice: She regrets attempting to follow advice that didn’t match her intuition and advocates for parenting (and living) according to inner guidance.
  (95:08–95:22)
• Family as Purpose:
  • "I think it’s all about my family. I was born to be a mom and help them find their passion, their truth, their joy, their legacy." (96:07)
• Kindness as a Legacy: Wishes to instill and spread kindness and love as her deepest wisdom to children and grandchildren.
• If She Could Make One Law:
  • "Love one another. Simple." (100:12)

Notable Quotes

• “If somebody says no, you’re talking to the wrong person.” (16:41)
• “Everything happens for a reason. I’m very spiritual. I pray about everything before I do it.” (18:55)
• “I just wish there was more that we all could do just to love each other and be there for each other...maybe help in a bigger way.” (47:02)
• “I do love them...these are the fathers of my grandchildren. What would my grandkids think 20 years from now if their grandmother treated their dad poorly?” (59:47)
• “You can’t control other people...you have to either ignore it, fight for it, help explain it, help communicate it, and forgive it. That’s how I live my life.” (44:13)
• “Don’t read that kind of stuff [negative online feedback] and try to be more joyful and just to be there for one another, because all we have is each other.” (90:22)
• “Love is love. And I fall in love with people and have lives and years spent with their partners...and all these memories. And that love doesn’t go away when we experience really challenging times with them.” (55:45)

Timestamps for Important Segments

• Childhood, Family, and Early Work Ethic: 04:55–13:29
• Flight Attendant Lessons, Building Skills: 14:52–19:00
• Modern Life, Social Media, Generational Worries: 20:32–30:56
• Family Structure & Professional Support: 31:44–37:40
• Parenting, Competition, and Success: 33:43–38:33
• Love, Divorce, and Forgiveness: 41:05–47:30
• Mental Health and Social Awareness: 45:37–49:11
• Daily Faith and Rituals: 60:22–62:35
• Letting Go, Perspective, and Protecting Peace: 62:45–69:07
• Mothering Each Child, Emotional Reflections: 80:47–88:23
• Legacy, Traditions, and Family Memory: 96:03–98:41
• Final Five (Rapid Fire Questions): 94:40–100:25

Tone and Style

The episode is warm, vulnerable, and deeply reflective. Kris’s storytelling is often humorous and peppered with nostalgia, yet candid about pain and struggle. Jay’s questioning is gentle, probing, and respectfully draws out the heartfelt lessons Kris has to offer.

Summary Takeaways

• Kris Jenner’s life is a tapestry woven from generational strength, intentional parenting, relentless learning, and radical forgiveness.
• Her greatest achievement is not fame but raising a large, close family infused with support, kindness, and acceptance.
• Kris approaches life’s bitterness with gratitude, humor, and the conviction that love—especially within family—must be unconditional, resilient, and forgiving.
• Even at the peak of success, presence, patience, and gratitude are daily practices, not achievements.

If you listen to just one section:
Hear Kris speak candidly about compassion, forgiveness, and loving people “even if you don’t agree” (41:09–47:30)—a rare, emotional insight into her heart and philosophy.

Jay Shetty closes:
"We end every On Purpose interview with the Final Five," capturing lessons learned, wisdom for the next generation, and the single law Kris would pass for humanity: "Love one another. Simple." (100:12)