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On Purpose with Jay Shetty

Episode: Sean Callagy: The #1 Skill That Controls Your Income (Use THIS 90/10 Rule to Build Trust and Create More Opportunities)
Date: April 22, 2026
Host: Jay Shetty
Guest: Sean Callagy, Entrepreneur, Speaker, Founder of Un Blinded

Episode Overview

In this episode, Jay Shetty sits down with Sean Callagy, a legally blind entrepreneur aiming to become the first blind, self-funded billionaire founder. The conversation explores the real drivers behind income and influence, the 90/10 rule for building trust, overcoming limiting beliefs, and leveraging both integrity and modern tools like AI to create abundance and opportunities, regardless of circumstances. Sean shares candid stories from his journey with blindness, his struggles and triumphs in law and business, and practical, actionable advice for mastering influence and personal growth.

Table of Contents

1. Defining Success and “Unblinded” Living
2. The Role of Limiting Beliefs and Early Conditioning
3. Sean’s Journey: Struggles, Blindness & Faith
4. The Power of Taking the "Next Best Step"
5. Family Influence and Building True Value
6. Getting Unstuck: The Endorphin Microdosing Practice
7. Quitting Jobs, Facing Fear, and Mastering Influence
8. The 90/10 Rule for Influence Mastery (30-Day Plan)
9. Building Business: Learning Only From the Right People
10. Developing Group and Individual "Yes": The Art of Influence
11. Integrity-Based Human Influence
12. Scaling a Business: The Mechanics
13. Leadership and Building Teams
14. Listener Scenarios: Advice for Real-Life Situations
15. AI, Marketing, and Rapid Change
16. The Importance of Identity & Resetting It
17. Example of Possibility: Athletics, Family, and Abundance
18. Final Five: Sean’s Rapid-Fire Wisdom

Defining Success and “Unblinded” Living

[03:13 - 04:09]

• Success is defined as personal freedom and living unconditionally, unblinded by external or limiting beliefs:

  “When people understand the truth, the relevant truth for their life journey, they make conscious, free decisions—not polluted by the limiting beliefs and fears of all the people who’ve been around them since birth.” — Sean Callagy (03:36)

• The “Unblinded” mission:
  Helping people see what's possible for exponential acceleration—more abundance in finances, time, and most importantly, “magic” (purpose, fulfillment, gratitude).

The Role of Limiting Beliefs and Early Conditioning

[04:48 – 10:17]

• People harbor hidden, often conflicting beliefs that money requires suffering, and that being wealthy is somehow “bad.”
• Sean’s upbringing: pressure to become either a doctor, lawyer, or be labeled a failure; simultaneous messaging that money equates with immorality.
• Jay and Sean note the universal impact of families framing success in limited, binary terms.

Sean’s Journey: Struggles, Blindness & Faith

Facing the Hereditary Eye Disease

[13:26 – 18:51]

• Sean reveals he discovered, at 17, he would go blind with retinitis pigmentosa—his mother withheld the diagnosis so he could enjoy his youth.
• Loss of his baseball dream:

  “I'd be out there as this immense leader... praying the ball wouldn't be hit to me.” — Sean Callagy (16:44)
  Losing his dream brought a period of grief, despair, and identity loss.

• Reframing purpose: Law school became the next best step; moving forward even in darkness.

The Power of Taking the "Next Best Step"

[18:51 – 22:01]

• Both Jay and Sean emphasize the importance of action—simply taking the next step rather than obsessing over a grand vision.

  “Take the next step. Do it as successfully as you can as things dynamically unfold.” — Sean Callagy (18:56)

• Metaphor: Don’t treat a staircase as your home—keep moving.

Family Influence and Building True Value

[22:19 – 24:01]

• Most of Sean’s blind relatives were poor, some alcoholic—except his grandfather, whom he credits as a model of power, courage, and empathy.

  “My grandfather taught me respectfully to take s— from no one and to love everyone. Right? He was a protector… be a stand for people, to be a guardian and a guide.” (22:19)

Getting Unstuck: The Endorphin Microdosing Practice

[24:12 – 26:50]

• When stuck, Sean prescribes “microdosing endorphins” 12 times a day (short bursts of intense movement for less than 60 seconds, like pushups or squats).

• Notable Quote:

  “Our biochemistry is a filter for our reality.” (24:19)

• Bonus advice: Study influence from a lens of service, not manipulation.

• “Start with your biochemistry, then realize your mastery of influence.”

Quitting Jobs, Facing Fear, and Mastering Influence

[29:59 – 33:49]

• Before quitting an unfulfilling job:
  1. Try Sean’s endorphin practice for 30 days
  2. Begin mastering influence (especially overcoming the fear of rejection)
  3. If unwilling to face rejection, either make peace with your current path or fully commit to building influence as your path to freedom.

  “If you want that, like [Jay], you have to master the causing of yes with humans.” (33:49)

The 90/10 Rule for Influence Mastery (30-Day Plan)

[34:25 – 38:58]

• Week 1: In conversations, listen 90% of the time; speak 10% (ask only open-ended questions).

  “Don’t talk about yourself for seven days and watch how people begin to relate to you and become drawn to you.” (35:33)

• Week 2: 2/3 listening, 1/3 talking; begin to reflect back what you’ve truly heard.
• Weeks 3-4: Start co-creating value; identify “lions with thorns”—serve their needs as the “mouse” rather than trying to become the center of attention.
• Key idea: Life changes when you’re the mouse removing the thorn from the lion’s paw.

Building Business: Learning Only From the Right People

[39:03 – 41:03]

• Only take advice from those already modeling the results you want—not just in numbers, but in lifestyle.

  “Only learn from the people who have that which you want to have and do not listen to anyone else.” (39:03)

• Sean’s “garage sale” breakthrough: A book on public speaking shifted his understanding—mastering influence (especially group influence via the stage) is a superpower.

Developing Group and Individual "Yes": The Art of Influence

[48:57 – 55:50]

• The ability to create “yes” in individuals (one-on-one) and groups (audiences) is the highest-value, most financially rewarding skill.

  “If nobody had told me this truth, I’d be blind and broke.” (52:38) “It's why Jay's Jay, Oprah's Oprah, why presidents are presidents. The hardest value is group influence.” (48:57)

• Steps to create group "yes":

  1. Build emotional rapport—open the listening with disruptive truth relevant to them.
  2. Speak to all the core motivations (money, time, happiness, or something in between).
  3. Influence is not manipulation—integrity and congruence matter.

Integrity-Based Human Influence

[58:44 – 65:01]

• Three-part definition:

  1. Transparency to relevant truth
  2. Aim to add more value than received
  3. Deliver exactly what you say you will

• Marketing should be intention-driven, not random networking.

• Ecosystem merging: Speak to the right audiences and create value (inspiration, mindset shifts) beyond just self-promotion.

Scaling a Business: The Mechanics

[65:13 – 69:26]

• Hard work and value delivery are not enough; scaling is about dramatically increasing the quantity and quality of sales meetings.
• Critical reframing: Nice people don’t automatically win in the market; marketing and influence mastery are the levers for scale.

  “To build a scaled business, it’s one sentence: exponentially grow the quantity and quality of your sales meetings, period.” (65:26)

Leadership and Building Teams

[69:41 – 71:33]

• The three-pronged “triangle” of effective team-building:
  1. Loyalty to the stated mission
  2. Masterful competence at the job
  3. Aligned empowerment: doing what was agreed upon, not reinventing roles
• Allowing people to recreate their jobs disrupts alignment and destroys company culture.

Listener Scenarios

1. 24-year-old, first job, feels underpaid/overwhelmed

[71:53 – 73:20]

• Focus on creating value and mastering influence; clarify expectations and mission; become magnetic through authentic listening, growth, and helping others.

2. 40-year-old marketer wants to launch her own firm but is afraid it’s “too late”

[73:34 – 74:23]

• Anchor your responsibilities, but if possible, start today!
• Focus on mastering AI—those who don’t will face extinction-level risks in marketing.

AI, Marketing, and Rapid Change

[74:23 – 78:46]

• AI is not just coming—it's here and will eliminate many white-collar jobs, including in marketing, law, and accounting.
• Sean’s company, Acti, has developed AI beings that can outperform most human marketers and salespeople.
• Massive increase in experimentation, split testing, and outreach capabilities; emotional intelligence can now be matched or exceeded by AI.

Advice for All Professions

[83:32 – 86:36]

• Reset your identity; don’t cling to being a lawyer, doctor, etc.—become a value-adder and master AI, particularly in marketing and selling.

The Importance of Identity & Resetting It

[87:29 – 90:23]

• Identity reset is vital:

  “We will live, we will die for our identities.” (83:32)

• Ask: Who do you want to be, without limits? Start with your dream identity, then build practical steps from there.

Example of Possibility: Athletics, Family, and Abundance

[90:43 – 94:48]

• Sean learned to surf after going blind—now teaches others (including children) how to surf and ski by feel.

  “I want to be an example of possibility. Thank you, Jay. And it’s so fun. I just love life.” (94:48)

Final Five: Sean’s Rapid-Fire Wisdom

[95:17 – 103:36]

• Best advice received:

  “Influence is the only human attainable superpower.” (95:17)

• Worst advice received:

  “You should listen to anyone who hasn’t produced the results you want.” (95:25)

• Hardest accomplishment:

  “Build a scaled business that permitted me to only miss nine of 1,000 plus sporting events that my children played in.” (95:35)

• How did he achieve time freedom?:
  Chose to be a business owner (not operator) and designed systems so he could be fully present for his family.
• Something he no longer values:
  Pleasing others or valuing the approval of people (102:40)
• One rule for the world:

  “Never claim to be a realist when you’re actually a cynic.” (102:48)

Notable & Memorable Quotes

• "If nobody told me this truth, I'd be blind and broke. Value and money are all about replacement cost. Period." — Sean Callagy (02:23, 48:57)
• "We will live, we will die for our identities… become present to the power of your own choice of identity." — Sean Callagy (83:32)
• “Take the next step. Do it as successfully as you can.” — Sean Callagy (18:56)
• "To build a scaled business, exponentially grow the quantity and quality of your sales meetings, period." (65:26)
• "The most selfish thing I believe we could do is to be engaged in false modesty." (44:51)
• "Nice and making money have nothing to do with each other… I wish the world was different, but I relate to the world as it is..." (65:26)
• "Our biochemistry is a filter for our reality." (24:19)
• “You want to make money and be free? Master the causing of yes with humans.” (33:49)
• "Never claim to be a realist when you're actually a cynic. I would make that illegal." (102:48)

Timestamps for Key Segments

| Segment | Timestamp | |---------|-----------| | Sean’s definition of success | 03:36 | | The importance of influence & causing “yes” | 05:10, 48:57 | | Defeating limiting beliefs | 07:27 | | Facing blindness, loss, and purpose | 13:26–18:51 | | Endorphin microdosing productivity tip | 24:19 | | The 90/10 rule & mastering influence | 34:25–38:58 | | Advice for quitting jobs | 33:49 | | Learning only from people living your desired outcomes | 39:03 | | Group “yes” and opening the listening | 53:16 | | Integrity-based influence explained | 59:12 | | Scaling business through marketing | 65:26 | | The importance of resetting identity | 83:32, 87:29 | | Example of possibility: Surfing & skiing blind | 90:58 | | Final five questions | 95:17–103:36 |

Tone and Style

• Deeply practical, motivational, direct, and often vulnerable.
• Sean is candid, energetic, and challenges listeners with firm truths, but always couples disruption with empathy and hope.
• Jay provides a warm, supportive, and reflective interviewing style, drawing out actionable steps and emotional stories.

Summary for Listeners

This episode is a masterclass in reprogramming personal and professional limits: from overcoming adversity and societal programming, to replacing fear with action, developing true influence, and embracing ethical entrepreneurship in a rapidly changing world. It’s particularly powerful for anyone feeling stuck, afraid to leave a comfort zone, or who wants to build a life and business with purpose and abundance—even as new technologies reshape what’s possible.

If you’re ready to open your eyes to new possibilities, this is essential listening.