23andMe - Phil Munsey

Summary

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ONE | A Potter’s House Church Podcast

Episode: 23andMe – Phil Munsey

Date: September 15, 2025
Host/Preacher: Pastor Torre Roberts and church leadership

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Overview

This episode features Phil Munsey delivering an anniversary message called "23andMe," celebrating the 23rd year of ONE Church. Munsey draws parallels between the concept of DNA (as popularized by genetic testing companies like 23andMe) and the spiritual DNA of a church community. He explores how understanding the heritage, calling, and unique “spiritual DNA” of the church can unlock individual and collective destinies. Throughout, Munsey uses scripture, personal anecdotes, prophetic exhortation, and humor to encourage congregants to embrace the church’s legacy—and their role in its unfolding story.

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Main Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Meaning of Anniversaries vs. Birthdays (03:43 – 05:57)

• Munsey opens by framing the 23rd anniversary as more akin to a marriage than a birthday, emphasizing the ongoing work and mutual commitment required in both church and marital relationships.
  • Quote:

    "Anniversaries cost us something. Anniversaries are a deliberate celebration of dedication and getting through difficulties. A church and a relationship with our church is much like a marriage." (04:05)

2. 23andMe, DNA, and Spiritual Heritage (06:01 – 12:22)

• The theme "23andMe" references both the church’s 23 years and human DNA. By paralleling biological DNA (23 chromosomes) with the “DNA” of the church, Munsey highlights how spiritual traits, legacies, and callings are transmitted through generations.
  • Quote:

    "The more you can understand where you came from, the more you can understand where you are and where you can go from this place." (06:44)

    • He emphasizes that members' destinies are tied to the spiritual history and calling of the church.
    • Using Acts 17:27-28, he notes that our existence and placement ("when you would be born, where you would be born, and by whom you would be born through") are orchestrated by God, not accidents.

3. God-Orchestrated Connections: Church & Destiny (10:06 – 16:13)

• Munsey teaches that, just as we don’t choose our biological family, God also appoints us to local church families.
  • The unique calling and “sound” of a church becomes a signal that aligns with individual destinies.
  • Quote:

    "A lot of people think that you pick the church you go to, but you really don't. No more than you picked your parents… God has fitly framed you to be where you need to be." (10:13)

  • He uses musical imagery—a trumpet's note resonating with a piano string—to illustrate how finding the right spiritual home activates resonance, opportunity, and resources in one’s life.

4. Celebrating the Unique DNA of Every Church (12:00 – 14:38)

• Drawing from Revelation 2–3, Munsey observes that different churches have different mandates and strengths. The goal is unity in diversity, not uniformity.
  • Quote:

    "The church needs to become one, but not the same... He gave them their unique candlestick and said, 'You be you.'" (12:22)

• Emphasizes embracing difference, both personally and corporately.

5. From Independence to Interdependence (13:23 – 14:03)

• Contrasts cultural individualism with the biblical model of moving from dependence, to healthy independence, to spiritual interdependence (as in family or church).

6. The Distinctive Qualities of ONE Church’s DNA (14:03 – 21:29)

• Faith: A church “of faith” that lives, speaks, and imparts faith.
• Love: Unconditional acceptance at all stages, for all people.
• Unique assignment: A special “sound”, mission, and anointing that distinguishes ONE from other congregations.
• Royal and priestly calling:
  • Drawing from Revelation 1, Munsey proclaims,

    "He has made us to be kings and priests to the glory of God."

• Cultural Influence: The mandate to be "salt, light, and a city on a hill"—shaping education, entertainment, and economics for God’s purposes.

7. Influence, Culture, and Hollywood as Principality (22:45 – 24:30)

• Recognizes Hollywood as both a physical region and a spiritual force shaping global culture through media.
• Stresses the church’s place at the epicenter of cultural transformation, asserting that believers can and should have influence at all levels.

8. Psalm 23 as Prophetic Declaration (24:56 – 31:29)

• Munsey reads and expounds on Psalm 23, relating its promises (shepherding, provision, protection, table before enemies) to the church’s journey.

9. Handling Offense and Covenant Commitment (26:38 – 29:03)

• Uses a marriage analogy to teach that real love—and so lasting church connection—begins after offense is encountered and overcome.
• Quote:

  "Love begins where offense ends. The same way with the church." (27:42)

• Members are encouraged to remain, especially when challenged or offended, to access the fullness of spiritual inheritance (“23andMe”).

10. Embracing Correction, Anointing, and Destiny (34:33 – 39:22)

• To inherit the promised destiny, correction and direction must be accepted.
• Anointing “flows from the top” (leaders), and embracing the house’s DNA brings tangible favor, opportunities, and breakthroughs.
  • Quote:

    "When you come into covenant with a church and you embrace the DNA, the 23andMe principle, then God will give you all of the sacrifices… you begin where they end. You stand on the shoulders of champions." (34:10)

11. Prophetic Declarations: Babylon Will Fall, God’s People Will Rise (30:30 – 48:11)

• Munsey prophesies the imminent collapse of “Babylon” (worldly systems that oppose God) and the promotion of God’s people.
  • Quote:

    "Babylon is going to fall. And I believe it's going to fall in our lifetime… And God's people are going to step up and say, 'Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done.'" (31:29)

• Urges listeners to build, marry, and expand even during “Babylonian captivity,” echoing Jeremiah 29:11.

12. Practical & Personal Application (43:42 – End)

• Challenges congregation to marry, build families, and prosper instead of waiting for perfect conditions.
• Prophetic encouragement for the impossible—home ownership, businesses, fertility, etc.—because “if it’s impossible, count God in.”
  • Quote:

    "I'm going to prophesy, in a year from now, somebody listening to me is going to be engraving their keys saying, 'I got a house, I got some equity, I got me a home.'" (49:41)

• Testimonies of practical favor (family starting businesses, overcoming infertility) affirm the “23andMe” inheritance.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Church and Marriage:

  "A church and a relationship with our church is much like a marriage... Anniversaries cost us something."
  (04:05)

• On Finding Your Spiritual Home:

  "People would come... after three or four weeks...they come to membership. This is something we heard over and over: 'the minute we came into the parking lot...we knew we had found our home.' ...You heard a sound. That was the sound that you had found your shepherd."
  (15:11 – 15:45)

• On Prophetic Destiny:

  "What you meant for harm, God is turning into harmony."
  (17:39 – 17:52)

• On Influence in Culture:

  "Whoever has the gold, you know, the golden rule: whoever has the gold rules...God is lifting up a church that has financial favor to step into the arena of entertainment and education."
  (21:29)

• On Facing Offense and Staying Planted:

  "When you get offended, that's when you make a decision: The Lord is my shepherd...and I will stay true to the heart of a shepherd."
  (28:53)

• On the Coming Fall of Babylon:

  "Babylon is going to fall. And I believe it's going to fall in our lifetime... And God's people are going to step up and say, 'Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done.'"
  (31:29)

• On Inheriting Spiritual Equity:

  "When you come into covenant with a church and you embrace the DNA...then God will give you all of the sacrifices that have been paid... You stand on the shoulders of champions."
  (34:10)

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Key Timestamps for Reference

• 03:43–05:57: Church anniversaries as proofs of mutual commitment, not just longevity.
• 06:01–12:22: “23andMe” and DNA analogy unpacked; destiny rooted in spiritual lineage.
• 14:03–21:29: Unique attributes and mission of the church—faith, love, royal/priestly anointing, cultural mandate.
• 22:45–24:30: Discussion of Hollywood’s influence, church’s strategic placement to shape culture.
• 24:56–31:29: Psalm 23 as a prophetic banner for the house and its people.
• 26:38–29:03: Handling offense, the true test of covenant commitment.
• 34:33–39:22: Prophetic word regarding receiving spiritual equity and the importance of correction and direction.
• 43:42–47:13: Practical application—building, marrying, prospering even in adversity; “if it’s impossible, count God in.”
• 49:41–50:51: Prophecy about home ownership, new businesses, and supernatural provision.

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Conclusion

“23andMe” is a call for the congregation to embrace the unique spiritual DNA, heritage, and destiny of ONE Church. Through vibrant metaphor, personal and biblical storytelling, and prophetic encouragement, Phil Munsey challenges listeners to move beyond superficial connection to deep, covenantal belonging. He promises that as each person aligns with and invests in the church’s calling, spiritual favor, breakthrough, and generational transformation will flow—not only to the church collectively, but into individual lives and families.

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Transcript

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

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[Torre Roberts (Podcast Host)]

Hey, good people, this is Torre Roberts. Blessings to you and welcome to the ONE podcast. I'm excited that you're here. ONE is a community of dynamic and vibrant thought leaders, preachers, teachers, and just a community of wonderful people all together. And we're excited to bring you this weekly podcast from our Services from ONE in la. If you haven't been to one, I encourage you to check it out. You can go to one the Word one O N E online and find out all about the service times and all about the teachers and all the philanthropic things that we have going. I believe you're going to be blessed to be a part of it. And speaking of being blessed, we're getting ready to get into a teaching right now that I believe is going to bless you. So tune in, enjoy, and I'll be back with you at the end.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Would you just put your hands out like you're going to receive and just look at me for a moment. I want to tell you that I believe I have a word for you. And part of giving this word to you is for you to embrace and understand the 23 year DNA of this church. And as I began to prophesy and to shed light on our history, I want you to know that the more you understand our history, the more you'll understand your destiny. And that the more you can embrace the DNA of this house, the greater ability you'll have to step into what God has for you, that your destiny is tied into the DNA of this house. And so I want you to know that there's going to be a release today. There's going to be a release today that what our pastor has been, our founder, has been pouring into this church and the DNA and the deeds and the seeds that have made us who we are, that that is available to you personally. And in a few moments when I pray. And there is going to be a supernatural release of favor in your life that I don't think you'll have ever felt nor be dealt in the way that it's about to come towards you. And so for a few moments, I want you to step back. And I know you're pressed with personal issues, but if you'll step back a bit and embrace the DNA and the history of this house, it's going to impart something to you that you will personally benefit from. So how many is ready to receive that today?

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

So, Father, thank you for your word.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Thank you for the worship, thank you for the team that has prepared the atmosphere so that your word can go forth unhindered thank you. That you will answer the prayer that you have put in me and that you will release the word that you have put in me. And that today will be a defining moment, not only in looking back, but in looking forward, not only for our house and this movement, but for our lives. Personally, I give you the praise in Jesus name. And everybody say amen. And before you're seated, look at somebody.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

And say, 23 and me.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Yeah, 23andme. Thank you all. You guys are phenomenal. I love this band. So we celebrate 23 years, and we.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Don'T call it a birthday for a.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Church because the church is much more like a marriage than it is a birthday. You know, birthdays are not really something that you should really pat yourself on the back. It's just a matter of surviving. You get another birthday, you know. But anniversaries are different. Anniversaries cost us something. Anniversaries don't just happen by the moving of the clock and time, but anniversaries are a deliberate celebration of dedication and getting through difficulties. A church and a relationship that we have with our church is much like a marriage.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

And a marriage is a constant battle.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Marriage is a constant work. Somebody said, what's the toughest year of.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

A marriage, the one you're in now?

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

I, Jeanne, and I, my wife, are celebrating 40.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

We're in our 47th year of being married.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

And it's a constant adjustment, just not only through the difficulties and challenges of two human beings coming together, but it's also an adventure because there's always change. I've said this before. People say, what's it like being married to the Same woman for 47 years?

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

I said, I have no idea, because.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

She'S been at least seven different women. And it's like, who are you? And then I date her, and I fall in love with her, and it's like, oh, I got a new wife. And then before you know it, she's changed. And now she says, I change, but I don't.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

I can't tell.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

And so when a church survives 23 years, it represents people that have stayed the race, people that have stayed with it. You are standing on the shoulders of people that have given their time and their talent and their treasure to bring us to where we are now. 23 is a significant year for understanding and setting a pace towards the fulfillment that God has brought to this church.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

The title of my talk today, 23andMe.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

If you're familiar, 23andMe was one of the first companies that learned to track the DNA of human beings.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

And through saliva and through testing, we're able to take the DNA of a.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Person and then through the sophisticated miracle.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Work of understanding the DNA could trace, track and transfer generations of deeds and seeds that you have access to running through your veins. That the more you can understand where you came from, the more you can understand where you are and where you.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Can go from this place. So we weren't just dropped off on.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

The planet by a stark.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

You didn't just arrive on the planet.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

And some people think, you know, they born down third base. They think they hit a triple. No, you were placed there through a long lineage of decisions that got you where you are. And the Bible says that, that God.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Has orchestrated your life since the very beginning.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

The Bible says in Acts 17:27, 28, that from one blood, from one DNA.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Strand, that DNA strand which carries the character and the characteristics and the charisma.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Of which you are made up with the data of which you function from that DNA strand, when stretched, is six feet long, but when bundled up can get lost on a pinhead of a needle. In fact, you could take all the the billions of people since Adam and take their DNA strand and bundle them up in the size of three aspirin tablets. And yet from that one blood, the Bible says that God spun that DNA into action and set it on its course so that every one of us would be able to recognize that it was God who determined when we would be born, where we would be born, and by whom you will be born through. Because you don't come from your parents.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

You come through your parents.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

And yet through that lineage, everything you needed to fulfill your destiny is already.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Invested into your bloodline.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

And the more you can understand the equity and the iniquity that's in your bloodline, the more you can navigate your life through like a map. Your genes can talk to you about.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Where your strength and where your weaknesses.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Are and what God has done. And the Bible says that God orchestrates all of that. He pre determined that how many is glad to know that you're not an accident, that you're not here today? Because two people had a passionate desire and somehow here you are? No, that from the beginning of time, before the first tick tock of time, God set in motion when you would be born, where will you be born, by whom you would be born? So that you would grope and say, if God went through all of that work to bring me to the planet, the least I can do is ask why? And then he says that why is not far from any of us. If we'll reach for it, we can.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Have it and step into our destiny.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

And so that company, 23andMe, is based.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Upon the 23 chromosomes that make up the DNA of every human being.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

And so I thought it was very.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Significant that this is our 23rd anniversary.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

And that we now qualify. We've been through enough. We've been through enough experiences. We have endured the difficulties, the ups and the downs, that we now have a DNA that if we'll pay attention to it, it will give us our future destiny. And it's not just the 23 DNA of the church, but when you come into covenant with it, that DNA and me dance together to fulfill our co equal destiny. Are you hearing what I'm saying?

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

This is why it becomes important that you find a church that God calls you to.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

A lot of people think that you.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Pick the church you know that you go to, but you really don't. No more than you picked your parents, no more than you picked the time.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Of your coming to the earth.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

No, God has placed you in a local body.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

God has fitly framed you to be where you need to be. And he gives you the dignity to think that you choose it. But actually he's maneuvering all kinds of things to make you get to that place where I think I like his.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

House Much like many of us in.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Our marriage, we think we picked our wives.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

But no, if God in fact chose.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Before time, when you were born, where you were, by whom you were born, God is orchestrating a lot of things. In fact, I think what happens is God, he's a great matchmaker. And the two people that he wants to get their lineage into one so he can advance his kingdom, he throws a little magic dust in the air and you fall in love. And whoo, I'm in love.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

And then three or four months later.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

You look at each other like, what? Who are you? And you know it's God's will when they're not like you, when they're the opposite of you. And you wake up one day and you say, man, they're nothing like I thought. We're so different.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

And I say, yeah, God's a good genetic engineer.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

And so it is with the church.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

God doesn't want you to go to.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

A church that you're comfortable in. He wants you to go to a church that you can link and come in covenant with. So that as you're destiny and as the DNA of that house becomes understood and you walk in covenant so you Discover how vital the DNA of the church you are part of is connected.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

To your personal destiny. Can I break this down just a little bit more? Let me break it down just a little bit more.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

You see?

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

You see, not every church is alike, and not every church is supposed to be alike. I know people talk about the church needs to become one. Yeah, the church needs to become one, but not the same. See, if you study the Book of Revelation, chapter two and chapter three tells us about seven churches of Asia Minor. They were all different. They had different strengths, they had different weaknesses. They had different mandates, different agendas, different assignments.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

And when God rebuked them, he never said, I want you to be more like them. I want you all to be like this. I want you to all behave the same way, do the same thing. No, he gave them their unique candlestick, placed them in the candlestick holder, and said, you. You be you. And in that distinction, we find our own distinction. And so I think it's frivolous, and.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

I think it's a waste of time.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

For the church to be constantly trying to chisel away until we all act the same and are the same. We need to value our distinction because.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Just like you have distinction, so does the DNA of the church God put you in. And the more you can understand the mandate and the assignment of which God has placed you in, the more you will come under that same flow and step into yours. And so as we begin to understand.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

This and God brings us into these.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Covenant relationships, and it's difficult because we.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Live in a culture right now that really we magnify independence and individualism. We make individualism to look out as if it's the ultimate goal of the.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Human family, and that is to be.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Your own, to do your own, when in reality, we're not equipped that way.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

That's not the way that we live.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

We come to understand that we start out being dependent, and then we become independent so that we can have something to bring to the table as we become interdependent in the circles God's put us in. Am I boring you?

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Are you kind of getting what I'm saying?

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

And so when you start getting this flow in your mind and you say.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Okay, God, you have placed me here and you know it, because there's a sound. You see, the DNA of this house is that we're a church of faith. We live by faith. We talk faith. We promote faith, we install faith.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

We're a church of love. We love each other. We love all people in all conditions, unconditionally. That's in our DNA. And if God's called you here, you got to get over whatever barrier is in your head so that you can blend in and grab a hold and get the attributes of the DNA that's in this house.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

We're a church that has a unique.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Sound, a unique assignment, and we have our own mandate and mission and impact that God has called us to. And the sooner you can learn how to blend, submit, and become a part of that, and you'll know. We pastored, my wife And I, for.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

30 years in South Orange county, and we discovered this constant reality that was happening. People would come to our church and then after three or four weeks, then.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

They come to membership. And this is something we heard over and over. People would say the minute we came into the parking lot or the moment we stepped into the lobby, or the first song of the worship experience, we knew we had found our.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Home. Now that's impossible because you didn't even see the pastor. You didn't even study what they believe.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

You didn't know nothing.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

But all you got is you heard a sound. You know what that sound was? That was a sound that you had found your shepherd.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Because a shepherd has a sound, a church has a sound. And when you hear that sound, if you'll follow it, if you'll follow the voice that leads you, that guides you, that secures and affirms that this is where I belong. If you can hear your shepherd's voice, you'll find your voice. And when you find your voice, the right relationships and resources will find you.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

You've heard me say this before. My daughter in law is an exploratory jazz professor at the University of Washington. And one of the things she does in her exploratory concerts is she takes a trumpet and she gets underneath a well mic'd grand piano and she hits.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

A note, the B note.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

And when she hits it, it takes two or three seconds for it to.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Hit a clear sound. And when it does, the sound wave.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Of that B finds the same note on the piano and that piano string starts to vibrate.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

And now you're hearing the piano and.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

And the trumpet, yet no one's touching the piano.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

It's that wavelength that matches. This is what happens when you get in sync with the shepherd's voice. You hear the voice, you find your voice, and your resources and relationships find you. Did anybody understand what I just said? This is why 23 and me matters. And 23. I've never really been into, like, numbers.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Until on pastor's fiftieth birthday, on the apostle's birthday, when he was 50 years old and had 20 years of ministry.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

God gave me Genesis 50:20.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

And in Genesis 50:20, it's when Joseph said, I've been through hell. I've been through a lot. You betrayed me. You hurt me. You tried to shoot me with the gun. You tried to put me down. Cause I lived in a bad area.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

You tried to do everything you could. And yet here I am.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

And he looks at his brothers and he looks at the circumstances and all the things. And he says, what you meant for harm? God is turning into harmony.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

And he got that Joseph mantle and anointing. And so I believe that that mantle is yours. I said I believe that mantle is yours. You see, there's. Excuse me, I'm going to get sidetracked for 90 seconds. You see, there's the Judah anointing of worship. Holy Ghost anointing Lion of Judah. That's our Jesus. But the Bible says in Ezekiel that when God wants us to take over a region and take authority, he says, take the rod of Judah and then the rod of Joseph. Put them together and you will possess the land. This church is not just about coming and singing and feeling good. It's a church that knows the rod of Judah, but it knows the rod of Joseph. Someone that will dominate in Egypt. Someone who will possess in Egypt. Someone who will become the head and not the tail in Egypt. How many are glad you got a Joseph anointing available to you?

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

So in our DNA, we have a founder who was successful in the ministry, but also successful in business. We have the DNA of our house is not just that we sing good and that we worship good and we have good church. But the DNA of this house is.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

We have a kingly.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

We have a royal anointing on us. You need to start recognizing that there is a royal. There is a king and priest anointing in the house. And yet as priests, we minister to God. As priests we minister to people.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

But we also are kings. We also carry royalty. We also carry dominion. I wake up every morning and I pray this prayer from Revelation, chapter 1, verses 14 6. And it says, Grace be unto you and peace from him who is and was and is to come. And to the seven spirits that are before the throne. And unto Jesus Christ, the faithful witness and the firstborn from the dead who rules over the kings of the earth. Let me say that again. Who rules over the kings of the earth. And he has loved us and washed away our sins in his own blood. And has made us to be kings and priests to the glory of God. Be dominion forever. And then I get out of bed.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

And I say, let's rock.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

I put my crown on, and I.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Walk around like I'm a king's kid.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

I walk around like this world is my father's world. I walk around and recognize that I'm not here just to get a ticket to go to heaven. I have reigning authority inside me. I've got a mandate to expand the kingdom. I got a mandate to take responsibility and walk in. This is the DNA of our house.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

We.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

We've always been a little weird. We've always been a little bit out.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

There because God has caused us to do that. He's given us an authority to be the salt of the earth, the light of the world, A city on a hill. And I've taught this before. Those are the three shapers of a culture.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Education. Salt.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Salt preserves and projects education, preserves a narrative. It preserves knowledge, and then it projects ideologies and ideas. And then there is light.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Light sheds light on those ideologies and upon that narrative. And it brings forth and shapes it into culture through books, through movies, through writings, through art, through dance. Light entertainment takes ideas and makes it the course of a culture to have influence. And then, of course, you can't do any of that if you don't have money. So God makes us a city on a hill. We are an economic force to be dealt with, because whoever has the gold, you know, the golden rule, whoever has the gold rules. And so God is lifting up a church that has financial favor. And that financial favor allows us to produce, to step into the arena of entertainment and the arena of education. For we are the salt, we are the light, we are the fortress. Is anybody hearing me today? 23 and me. This is who we be. Ooh, I just.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

I just did something right there, didn't I?

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Watch it now. Watch it now.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

The DNA of this house is rubbing in on me. Can't you see? It is to be. No, never mind, Never mind, Never mind.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Never mind, never mind. This is vital because, see, we know that Hollywood is more than a zip code. It's a principality. Hollywood is a principality that takes knowledge and ideas, shapes it into entertainment, and then affects culture. There is so much. There are so many ideas. There are so many principles. There's so much of a powerful principality that's in this region. And even though it's not geographic anymore because of technology, it still represents a point of contact for Hollywood.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Hollywood. What's going on with the salt. The light and the money. The education, entertainment, economics that's coming out of the principality of Hollywood is touching every nation and every generation. There are 12 year olds in the jungles and, and in the villages of Africa and in China that have phones that are connected, that everything that happens here ultimately gets to every nation and every generation. God has placed us here for such a time and for such a responsibility to know that everything that happens in this house will at some point affect all nations and all generations. And that means maybe you don't have a big dream, but hold on to the dream of this house. And if you hold on to the coattail of the mission and the mandate of this house, you'll be swept into.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Opportunities that will blow your mind and elevate your own personal DNA and history.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Into a new world of destiny that your children and grandchildren will celebrate one day. Can you say amen?

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

And so 23 in me. So I thought, well, I'm going to go to a psalm that I think identifies what we've been through. And here we go.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Psalms.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

No, not 20 Psalms, not 21 Psalms.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

No, not 22, but Psalms. Oh yeah, oh yeah.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Indulge me now, for the Lord is my shepherd. I shall not want. You got a shepherd today we have a true mantle of pastoral and a shepherd anointing. Don't you love the passion that our pastors have? The passion that Pastor Dr. Anita has brought to the house as a shepherd? Let me tell you something. The most important question you can ever answer is this. Not who's your doctor, not who's your lawyer, not who's your cpa. The most important question you can answer is who's your shepherd? Who's your shepherd? Because everything God wants to get to you through you, God will make sure that you're with a shepherd. Say, I have a shepherd and God is the chief shepherd, but the Bible says that he appoints those that would shepherd over our soul. You need a shepherd. Oh, I know it feels like churches like restaurants now.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

You know, you go where you want. I want some spicy food today.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

I want something more blind. When in reality, a church has a unique sound that when you hear it, don't run from it and be drawn to it and not be afraid of a covenant relationship with the church.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Because let me tell you, like marriage, love doesn't start on the date. Love doesn't start when somebody matches your.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Name and their name.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

And you meet each other and you get a little twinkle in your eye. No, let me tell you where love starts. That's all Hollywood love. Let me tell you when love really starts.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

It starts in a twinkling of an eye after your first heated argument. Because, you know, up until that time, we're just acting out a script. We just reading from the script. Tell her she looks nice today. You look nice today. Oh, thank you for that lovely meal. What a man you are, man. I've never met anybody like, excuse me, I've never met you.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

You complete. You complete me.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

And then you get in a heated argument and the mask comes off and you're like, what? And love says, let me turn your wow into a vow. You see, love begins where a fence ends. The same way with the church.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

You know, people come here. Many of you, you're new, you say, I love this church. I love this church. Oh, I found our. Finally found a home. I feel the voice. Beautiful. I love it. I pastored for 30 years, and people say, I love you. I love this church. And this is going to be my church home. And in the back of my mind.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

I'm saying, wait until you get offended, then we'll talk. And then, sure enough, here it comes. An offense comes, and that offense comes like, I'm getting out of here. My God, that woman told me I can't sit here. That. That's reserved. What does she think? That man, what he got up there? Talk and talking about tithing and giving, and I gotta. Oh, man, I'll go somewhere else. No, let me tell you something.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

When you get offended, that's when you make a decision.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

The Lord is my shepherd, and he's.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Given me a shepherd. And I will not hear another voice. And I will stay true to the.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Heart of a shepherd.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

A shepherd that knows you and knows you.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

And when I say know you K.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

N o W. They may not have lunch with you. She may not have a personal counseling session with you, but God has given her and our pastors an anointing to know you by the spirit, me. And then you need a shepherd that can know you in O.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

No.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

How dare you tell me no.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

If you don't have a shepherd that knows you and knows you, you will want. You will be in want. And you will wonder like a. Like a wandering lamb, not only missing your opportunity to be a part of what God is building, but missing your own destiny. Because it's 23andMe. Your destiny is tied in. Are you hearing me today? The Lord is my shepherd, and he's been our shepherd. And he makes me lay down in green pastures. He leads me, you See, a shepherd feeds and leads. He leads me by still waters. And for 23 years this church has been led down the path of righteousness for his namesake.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

And yeah, we have gone through the valley as a church for 23 years.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

We know what it's like to smell death. Perhaps the church would not survive this change. The church would not survive this attack. But ah23 says you walk through it and we fear no evil. Say we fear no evil. Can I say, can I tell you something about evil? Evil is dark, but evil is also dumb. I'm about to prophesy in about 10 minutes and when I do, I'm about to tell you that Babylon, which has got the nations and the generations by the throat and dictating the human race right now. I'm about to prophesy and tell you two things. Number one, Babylon is going to fall. And I believe it's going to fall in our lifetime. And I'm going to tell you it's.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Going to be so quick. The Bible says it's like in an hour all of the powers of salt, light and economy that have been used for evil are going to fall to the ground and God's people are going to step up and say, thy kingdom come, thy will be done. 23andMe.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

See, evil is like cancer. Cancer gets in a body and it doesn't know when to stop because it's dark. But it's dumb. And it'll keep destroying the very body it's living in. So when it destroys the body it's in, it has destroyed itself. Can I tell you that with the thief that's out there killing, stealing and destroy, can I tell you he's going.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

To cross a line where evil is going to have actually imploded on itself. And I've come here to tell you, embrace your DNA. Embrace 23andMe. Because when that goes down, God's going to prepare a table in front of our enemies and we're going to step up and we're going to see the kingdoms of this world become the kingdoms of our God. I know you don't believe it, but go ahead and try to get some faith inside you. I don't mean to yell.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

I'm just passionate. When you hear Devon Franklin get up here and talk about being a producer and having his own production company friend, that doesn't.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Thirty years ago, that don't happen. You don't. I was raised in church. You never hear Hollywood is full of the devil. And we questioned anybody that was in.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

It that claimed to be Christ Let.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Alone have your own production.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Are you kidding me?

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Let alone a Christian being in Hollywood with that kind of influence, let alone all the other barriers that he had to overcome. Fill in the blank.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

And yet here he is. And here it is. I want to tell you something. That God is about to do something in such a way your head will spin. You're going to need to embrace the DNA, this house, because you get its equity when you do. When you come into covenant in a marriage, you get what is theirs, you get and what is yours, they get. When you come into a covenant with a church and you embrace the DNA, the 23andMe principle, then God will give.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

You all of the sacrifices that have been paid, all of the money, all of the effort, all of the work, all of the valleys, all of the forces of darkness, all of this that they've overcome. You step into that equity and you begin where they end. You stand on the shoulders of champions.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Yeah, that was a PGA clap. I know. I'm going to preach this in the last few moments. So good. You're going to give me an NFL one in just a moment. We don't fear evil. We're right here. We don't fear. Say, I don't fear, for you are with me. I got a church that has a rod and a staff, and they comfort me. We got a rod and we have a staff, Pastor. You got a rod and you got a staff. You know the staff comforts you. The rod corrects you. To be successful in life, you need both correction and direction. Don't try to separate direction from correction. Oh, boy, that was a good one right there. See if I can wrap that one. Embrace them both. Most of the time, before God can give you direction, he has to pivot you because insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Oh, let's move on. You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies. Some of you are going to be shocked about this time next year at the table you're going to be sitting at and the people of whom you're going to be sitting in front of. I'm going to say that again, and.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Somebody needs to hear that. I said, by the word of the Lord. A year from now, you're going to remember what I said, and you're going to say, how did I get here? And you're going to look at people that you thought were your enemies, and they're going to be saying, what can we do for you? And you're going to remember 23 and me.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Ye. Because we're going to have the songs, and we're going to have the dance, and we're going to have the script, and we're going to have the pen that signs contracts, and we're going to.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Say, because the kingdoms of this world.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Shall become the kingdoms of our God.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

And of his Christ. All I got to do is I got to find my tribe, I got to find my people, and then I got to be committed to it like a marriage. And I got to say until death or until God makes it clear. I'm in. I'm in all the way. And when you do, you get that. Look, I was studying a couple days ago about all of the money that's.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Out there that nobody's tapping into.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

For instance, gift cards. Did you know there's $2 billion worth.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Of gift cards that nobody's cashed in? You know, because you got one somewhere.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

And you can't find it. There's heritages of land and buildings of which people have no idea. That's their right, that's in their DNA. And if they knew better, they could step in there and prove who they are, and they would say, well, here it is. Here it is. Here's your wealth. Here's your property. I'm just trying to tell you, the more you understand about your DNA, the more you're going to stand about your destined knee.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

You anoint my head with oil. Everybody say I'm anointed. The Bible says anointing starts from the top. We have an apostle. That anointing of business, that anointing of influence, that anointing of education, entertainment, economic. That anointing is flowing from the top. It's coming down. It's not just touching geographical locations, but it's coming down and it's flowing. As it flows down, that oil is going to create a different environment for you, because when you step into a room, people are going to be attracted to the perfume and the aroma that you carry. And guess what? It ain't you. It comes from your DNA. It's coming from Aaron's beard. Are you hearing me today?

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Are you?

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Yeah. Yeah. Some of you. This is new.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

You're.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

You're not grasping.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

It's okay.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

What I'm saying is good. It's truth.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

It's going in your soul, and it's.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Going to grow, and it'll come to you next week, next month. That oil is flowing. That oil is going to cause your life to be less friction. Right now. I'm speaking right now. Stress and anxiety and the Pressure that you're under right now. 23andMe says God says, my oil that I've given in this house is now accessible for you. Let it pour through your vein. Let it pour through the friction in your marriage, in your finances, in your brain and in your mind. Let your soul be healed. Let there be something that starts even now. Father, I prophesy even right now, while.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

I'm talking, the oil of this house, the DNA, the 23andMe is already involved. Right now I'm feeling a release. I'm feeling an aroma not of evil, not of fear, but I'm feeling the aroma of joy, of praise, of worship, of victory. I'm feeling the smooth ride that I'm about to step into. The stress is over.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

The oil will heal and the oil will fuel you. Anoint my head with oil. My cup runs over. Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life. 23 and me shall dwell in the house of the Lord forever. Lift your hands with me right now. Say, thank you, Jesus. Say thank you, Jesus. Say 23. And me. Say 23. And we let's stand together in the name of Jesus. I got three more notes to give, but come on back. I'll try to get to him in the next service. Say 23andMe. It's not me alone. I'm not doing this by myself. Now watch me. Here's the prophetic word that I promised you. And I'm going to have to go through this quickly, so follow me. I'm prophesying to you to tell you today, and I don't have time to show it to you, but I would like you to. To loan me on credit something that I could prove to you, but I don't have the time to do it. So just try to take this as what I'm saying. There was a prophecy given to Jeremiah. It's a prophecy that most of us have. Many of us have it on our screens, on our. And you can play the deal that makes everybody think I'm really closing. That really helps me. And stay with it here, though. So we have this thing on plaques and we have them everywhere. And we love to quote it. It's Jeremiah 29:11. I know the plans you have for me, right. They are good not to do harm. A future with a hope in it. Everybody say we like that, but we don't really understand its context. And now I'm going to give it to you. See, here's the context. Jeremiah says Babylon has been given permission by God to take you Captive, because he's going to work some stuff out of you and it's going to change some things inside you. He said, but don't worry, I got you. My plans aren't evil. They're good. And you're going to, you're going to be captive for 70 years. That means you're going to raise your kids and your kids are going to raise their kids. And they're going to wake up every morning, they're going to be reminded, Babylon's ruling. Babylon seems to be in control. Babylon's going to, it's going to intimidate the daylights out of you. And you're going to see people driving fancy cars and living in fancy homes and living the good life and you're trying to do the right thing and you know they're not doing right. And you're going to say, that's Babylon. And you're going to want to shrink back and you're going to want to say, oh, Jesus, get us out here, hope the Rapture happens tomorrow. And you'll be tempted to give in because Babylon is very intimidating. But, but, but, but listen what he says. He says, now I want you to know while you're in Babylon, here's what I want you to do. I want you to build houses. Say, build houses. And then I want you to dwell in them. And then I want you to plant gardens, start businesses. I want you to start eating the fruit. I want you to start enjoying your life. The Bible says in Ecclesiastes 3 that.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

It is a gift from God to.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Enjoy the fruit of your labor and.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

To eat and to drink and to be merry. For to celebrate your victories is a gift from God.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

And curse is the man that doesn't know how to do that. Say, I'm going to start enjoying my life. Yeah, but Babylon's in control. It don't matter. Babylon don't control me. And I know Babylon's coming down, but.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Until it does come down, I'm going.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

To build houses, I'm going to build businesses. I'm going to plant vineyards. I'm going to get me, I'm going to get married and I'm going to hurry up and get married because I'm going to have kids. I'm reading the Bible to you. I'm prophesying to you. Because you know why you need to get married and have kids? Because there's another promise in there says.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

So that your kids can raise up.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

And get married too.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Every day you're not married and you.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Don'T have A child is one less day you'll be with your grandchildren. You don't even know what living is until you have grandchildren. Talk to me. So get over your pride. Get over. I'm looking for the perfect one. Get over it. It's going to take you work.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

You know.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

You know how you get a perfect marriage? You work at it and you get there. So I'm speaking over you today that I know Babylon doesn't want you to get married. I know Babylon wants you to be afraid of getting married. I know Babylon wants you to celebrate your independence and be in control of who you are. But every day that you're not in covenant, you're losing ground towards the bigger vision. God, I'm not telling you just run off and get married to anybody tomorrow. But I am telling you to run off and get married to somebody the next week. You think I'm joking? The prophet says get married. Jeremiah said, get married.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Yeah, but I haven't found the right one. Well.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

The Bible says a husband prepares his bride with the washing of the word. The bride I have, Jeanne, my bride. The bride I have is the bride I made. I've made her what she is. She's happy because I've made her happy.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

She's good because I've facilitated her grace. I've given her what she needs so that she can be fulfilled and happy. I've taken credit for that, even if it was by my own stupidity and stubbornness. I'm taking credit for it because the.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Wife I had is a wife that I've made. And if I'm married to a miserable wife, it's because that's the thing that I've created. No, you get. I'm praying tonight. I'm praying tonight. Oh, yeah. Don't, don't, don't, don't. Yeah. Yeah.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

I'm not trying to be mean. I'm not trying to be mean. But you're going to wake up at 40 years old. You're going to wake up one day and ask yourself, what did I save myself for? What was I waiting for? And when you get 50 and 60 and you're not always dealing with grandkids and you're not already in business because some of you are like me. Without my wife, I would be working at McDonald's today.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

No criticism if you are, because they make $20 an hour.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Now, I'm talking about the McDonald's in.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

My day that made $4. No, get married. Build houses. Get your kids married. Don't punish your kids for not getting married. They're going to college. Let them get married and go to college. Keep them out of trouble. Don't use marriage as like. Oh, you have to get yourself all together. No, you get there because you get married. Hey, I'm not. This is not the cure.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

I'm not saying I'm right about everything I'm saying, but I'm nearly right.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

I want you to prosper. I want you to eat the fruit. I want you to have the nice cars and I want you to have the nice clothes. And I want you to walk around with dignity. You say two things. Babylon. You're not going to control me. You're not going to stop my dreams. Oh, no.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

And it goes on and says. And it goes on and says, and don't decrease, but increase.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

And then you say two things. I'm going to increase. I'm going to prosper. I'm going to have influence in Babylon. And then the second thing, under your breath, you walk around and you just look at all those people, the power brokers in the salt and the light in the fortress, and you just look at him and under your breath say, you're gonna get fired pretty soon. Cause Babylon's falling. Babylon's coming down. And when it does, he has prepared you a table in front of your enemies. And when Babylon falls, I'll rise.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

I'll rise.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Is there something. I got something there. Is there a rhythm to that or something? You hear me? Get your hands out like this. You're going to receive it. In the name of Jesus, I come against the intimidation of Babylon over your life. Driving that car barely operates. You feel ashamed and shamed. I'm going to tell you it won't always be that way. And I want you to make a commitment to the 23andMe and saying, I'm in. I'm in. Amen.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Amen.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

Look at me. Now, you keep your hands like this, if you don't mind. And then look at me. Let me tell you something. And I know this. I know it's in LA too. In Orange county, you have to make $365,000 a year household income and have a 20% down payment on the lowest median house in order to qualify to have a house. You know what that means for my 44 year old son who's not married, by the way, who's like his dad, he ain't gonna make it until he gets married. You know what that means for most of you in this room? It means you're not gonna ever own a house. Because you know why? Because Babylon says it's impossible. But God told me today on the way over, he said, tell them to.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Think about the impossible because then that takes it out of their hands and it puts it in mind. I'm going to tell you, I'm going to prophesy, in a year from now, somebody listening to me is going to be engraving their keys saying, I got a house, I got some equity, I got me a home. Come on. Somebody ought to shout right there.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

God's going to give you a business. He's giving you an idea, he's going to give you a business. My daughter, who's done nothing but work for the church all of her life, work for our ministry, having kids, living in Houston, Texas, needed a job, but how you gonna do it? Got three kids. How are you gonna do that? And God gave her a six figure yearly income working as a PE personal assistant, PA of a startup, 250 million dollar startup health company from her home can manage her children, make more money.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Than she's ever made. Telling you, there's businesses floating right here. Whatever Pastor Torre has touched, whatever they touch is ours. It's all right. It's our DNA. It's 23 and we. Are you hearing me today? Businesses, economic ideas. Come on, somebody.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

I'm praying for those of you that want children. You can't have children. The doctor says you can't have children. And you're thinking you're ashamed and you take the miscarriages personally as if you're being punished by God. And I want to tell you that's a lie. That's a lie. My daughter had four miscarriages before she had her first child. Declan, my 17 year old, 270 pounds, 6 foot 4, football player, grandson, son. Let me just tell you this. I know you feel shame, I know you feel grief, but just know this, you created a living soul and they're in eternity. So it's not all loss. But God says, if it's impossible, count me in. I'm prophesying children right now. Lift your hands and say, I receive.

[Co-Pastor or Church Leader]

Say everything this house has been through, everything this house has, everything this house is going to go into is mine. It's 23. Andme. I love you. I went way over my time, Pastor. I'm sorry. Come on, give God praise.

[Torre Roberts (Podcast Host)]

Hey, family. Well, I pray that you were just as blessed by this teaching as I was. I'm just so grateful again to be a part of a dynamic community full of love, full of revelation and wisdom. One has been a movement that's been blessing people for over two decades, and I'm so glad that you got an opportunity to experience it. I also have a podcast called the called it's right here on wherever you're listening to this Spotify or Apple or wherever you're listening to this podcast. You can just look up the call T H E C A L L E D with myself, Terre Roberts. This is designed for entrepreneurs, leaders and business people. It's a weekly podcast and it will bless you. But hey, I enjoyed having you here. Meet us here next week. Check out the call. Much blessings to you.

[Pastor Torre Roberts]

You.

[Torre Roberts (Podcast Host)]

We'll catch you next time.