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The 100 Greatest Rock Moments of the Millennium So Far - Part 7: (40-31)
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Alan Cross
Hey, it's Alan. And I just wanted to let you know that you can now listen to the ongoing history of new music. Early and ad free on Amazon. Music included with Prime.
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Alan Cross
Sound good. I participate in restaurants for a limited time. It's wild how so much in this universe is connected in ways we don't understand. There's something in quantum physics that Einstein called spooky interaction at a distance. Quantum theory says that you can have a particle like this one here, which is connected to another identical particle billions and billions of light years away over there somewhere. And if I give this one a flick, boop. I just booped its twin on the other side of the universe at exactly the same time. Change it here and it changes there instantaneously. Yeah, I know it's freaky, but that's how quantum physics works. History can kind of be like that too. You poke at this one person, this one thing, this one event, and it has an effect on another person, another thing, or another event way over there. It doesn't happen instantly because our existence in this universe is ruled by classical physics where such things can't happen. That's a quantum thing, but nevermind. But in retrospect, you can see how one little thing in this timeline can unleash a series of cascading events and unintended consequences. This is why I believe that every once in a while, it's important to stop and look at how we got to where we are today. Reviewing and studying the past is a way to understand the present. And if we're careful, we might be able to use this information to predict at least some of the future with a reasonable amount of certainty. Maybe this is episode 7 of a 10 part series that's looking back on what happened in rock through the first 25 years of the 21st century. Let's see if we can't put a few more pieces together. This is the ongoing history of New Music podcast with Alan Cross. Hi there, I'm Alan Cross and we're well into the second half at a look back at the 100 most important moments, people, events and things in rock that have happened through the first quarter of the new millennium. Like all lists, people are going to argue over what I included, what I left out, and how I rank things, which is inevitable, and so are any discussions that will result. My main reason for doing this is to review what happened so far this century and possibly use that history to explain how we got to where we are now and where we're going. For example, at number 40 on the list, I have the death of Scott Weiland on December 3, 2015. And for reasons bigger than just losing Scott, looking back, we see that his death was the beginning of all the awful losses that we had to endure over the next 13 months. When Scott died on a tour bus in Bloomington, Minnesota, it seemed just like another tragic drug related rock star death. And with Weiland, we honestly weren't all that surprised. He'd had struggles with his mental health and booze and drugs for decades. It did feel that it was only a matter of time before his luck ran out and he would be gone. The official cause of death was multiple drug intoxication, cocaine, alcohol and ecstasy. Combined with severe asthma, cardiovascular problems and other long time health issues. It was just another reminder of how the rock and roll lifestyle lived to the fullest can eventually catch up with you. Tragic. Then Lemmy of Motorhead died of cancer on December 28th. That made us sad. We've all been touched by someone with cancer. So two notable deaths in four weeks was a lot, but, you know, something we could handle. But with a new year, rock stars continued to die, and they kept dying all through 2016. David Bowie, Prince, Glenn Frey of the Eagles, two members of the Jefferson Airplane, Matt Roberts of 3 Doors Down, George Michael, Beatles producer George Martin, Keith Emers and Greg Lake of Emerson, Lake and Palmer, Maurice White of Earth, Wind and Fire, and dozens more. This was the year, more than any other in recent history, that we music fans had to come to terms with the fact that our idols were just as human as we are. People who had been providing music for us for our entire lives were suddenly no longer there. So in retrospect, the death of Scott Weiland was our introduction to where we find ourselves today and for the foreseeable future. A slow depopulation of the pantheon of rock stars as their time on Earth runs out. The death of Scott Weiland, which for many of us upon looking back was the event that forced us to come to terms with what we will see from now on when it comes to losing our favorite rock stars. That's number 40 on our list of the top 100 moments of the millennium. I've got the return of lollapalooza at number 39, and maybe not for reasons that you might think. It's hard to overestimate what a cultural impact the original Lollapalooza had been in the 1990s, starting with its first incarn touring festival in 1991. For the next five years it brought the best of alt rock to the masses, altering the industry as it went and surprising everyone with its popularity. But by 1996, there were cracks. The signing of Metallica as the headliner that year showed that something was off, and by 1997 it was obvious that the Gen Xers who made it what it was had grown up and moved on. The original Lollapalooza era was over. It was resurrected in 2003, but the 30 city road trip wasn't all that received. Poor ticket sales forced the cancellation of the 2004 event, but in 2005 a new Magic formula was discovered. Lollapalooza wouldn't tour anymore. Instead, it would be a three and eventually four day festival in Chicago's Grant park on the first weekend in August. Outside of 2020, when it had to be shelved because of COVID Lollapalooza has turned into one of the flagship live music events in North Americ. It's a far cry from the alt rock heavy original. Heck, it's way more about pop and hip hop than it is any kind of rock today, but it's still nice to see the name survive. However, the current Lollapalooza shows us how much the festival audience has changed since those early days. The mega concerts of North America have evolved into an unfocused all you can eat buffet of, frankly, nothing in particular. Yes, young festival goers are much more tolerant and ecumenical in their musical tastes as compared to the tribalism of previous generations, but this isn't necessarily something that translates well into the festival experience. Today's North American megafestivals Lollapalooza, Coachella, Bonnaroo, those ones in particular anyway, try to cater to all tastes at the same time. And with ticket prices higher than ever, people are becoming less enchanted with spending a long weekend in a field with a bunch of unfamiliar acts playing around them. So while it was great to see Lollapalooza back and it does seem to be doing well. It's also interesting to see how far it and Coachella and others have moved away from a specific sound and vibe and aesthetic into something that I feel doesn't really stand for anything. Nothing at all. Feel free to try to change my mind. Let's go Back to Lollapalooza 1994. This band was on the main stage along with the Beastie Boys, Smashing Pumpkins, Nick Cave, Flaming Lips, the Readers, and Cannonball. I remember seeing them perform that on the main stage of the 1994 Lollapalooza Festival. And I've got the resurrection of Lollapalooza and IT and other mega festivals morphing away from rock into, well, something not Rock as number 39 on our list. Number 38 is a counterpoint to that. For much of the 2000s, the mainstream has been dominated by pop, hip hop, and R and B. Pick any Billboard Hot 100 chart from the last 25 years and you'll see what I mean. Rock has been essentially absent. However, 2x fought against the current and managed to bring alt rock back to the top 40 mainstream. The first was Imagine Dragons. They were formed in Las Vegas in 2008 and within 10 years they'd scored a ton of mainstream hits, sold millions of records and downloads, streamed billions of times, won a bunch of awards, and managed to sell the early part of their catalog for $100 million. The second was 21 pilots. They were formed in 2009 and within the next five or six years they were streaming in the billions and having gold and platinum albums. In 2016, they became just the third rock act in history to have two singles in the Billboard top five at the same time. Only Elvis and the Beatles had managed that. The mainstream top 40 will never be a safe space for rock for the foreseeable future, but it was nice to see imagine dragons and 21 pilots bring alt rock to top 40 for a little while anyway.
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Alan Cross
Sang us to sleep but now we're.
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Alan Cross
Time to the good old days when the mama the return, however brief, of alt rock to the top 40 charts thanks to 21 pilots and also Imagine Dragons in the 2010s. That's number 38 on the list for number 37. We need to talk about AI when we do another list like this in 25 years. Listen, I don't have any place to go. AI will be way higher in the rankings even though we're still in the early days of this new technology, I mean, what is it? Five years into this new era, we're already seeing effects and changes with music. So because we're so early in this game, number 37 on this list is pretty general. Here's a quick summary of AI's effects on music so far. And remember, whatever we have today is the worst this technology is ever going to be. First, we need to understand that we don't know where things are going just yet. AI has democratized so much about music making, which may or may not be a good thing. Depending on how it will be used, there will be opportunities and challenges and scares and outrages for creators in the music business and music fans. Artificial intelligence is being used to create music using tools like musenet, Suno, Magenta and a ton of other programs. We have text to music tools and even the ability to hum into an app to help us create a fully fleshed out tune. AI is a great tool for musicians who want to experience with sound design in ways never before possible. We've started to see virtual artists emerge. These are completely artificial constructs that can be made to do anything. The idea of digital music slaves has come up more than once. AI is already a big deal when it comes to algorithms and song recommendations. Companies within the industry are using AI to predict what the market and what individuals may do. Meanwhile, artists are using the tech to engage their fans in new ways. Now, there's plenty of ambiguity around things like originality, authenticity, copyright infringement, and the training of models on music created by human beings. Governments and the law are still behind when it comes to regulating AI and the ethics that should be followed. I'm talking deep fakes, the use of someone else's voice without their permission, and so on. AI is an integral part of something like dynamic pricing of concert tickets. We have to include that. And the technology is also being used to create soundscapes that can be used in all manner of music therapy. All this is just the tip of the iceberg. Like I said, things are going to happen with AI in music that we can't even imagine. We're just going to have to wait it out. Seems like a good time to play something like this. Anything you want us to.
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We are the robots. The growing influence, effects and interdependence between AI and music at number 37 now, but rising with a bullet coming next, music in the movies, a crisis with electric guitars, a breakup and a reunion.
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Alan Cross
We're going to continue with part seven of the Top 100 Moments of the Millennium with item number 36. I debated with myself a lot on this one, but in the end I decided that I just couldn't ignore it because it was such a historic thing. On December 10, 2007, Led Zeppelin reunited for a one night only concert at the O2 in London. It was precipitated by the death of Amit Erdogan, the legendary and controversial record man who founded Atlantic Records in 1947. He was the guy, really the only guy who saw potential in Jimmy Page's new band in the late 1960s and signed them to a deal. With Erdogan's support, Led Zeppelin became one of the biggest bands in the history of the universe. Jimmy Page, Robert Plant and John Paul Jones were there. Of course. Drums were handled by Jason Bonham, the son of John, who died in 1980. This gig was the first significant Led Zeppelin appearance in 37 years, and when the gig was announced, 20 million people applied to buy tickets. The night featured a 16 song set in 2010. There was a live album and DVD, both called Celebration Day, and that won a Grammy for Best Rock Album. Led Zeppelin at the O2 arena in London on December 10, 2007. But unlike other heritage bands that have reunited, Led Zeppelin has not taken the bait. They have yet to play together again since that night. Moving to item 35 on our list is the alarming drop in the sales of electric guitars. For most of rock history, the electric guitar was the go to instrument for millions of wannabe rock stars. But in the 2010s guitar sales plummeted. Why? A couple of reasons. First, there was the economy. It was a little rough early in the century, and getting into the guitar can be expensive. Quality instruments and amps and pedals aren't cheap. Second, other genres that didn't depend on guitars became more popular. That included hip, hop, pop, EDM and R&B. This led to reason three if more artists didn't use guitars in their songs, then there was a decline in the number of guitar heroes. There were fewer of these masterful players to inspire a new generation. Yes, the superstars of the past still have an effect, but there's nothing like having someone close to your age showing you how things can be done. Related to that is the impact of all these TV talent shows. They're more about becoming famous than becoming good at your craft. I feel that's kind of distorted the whole process of becoming good at music. Which brings me to the next reason. The people doing the inspiring create music on laptops with digital workstation programs like GarageBand, and with devices like Ableton Live and MIDI controllers. You no longer need to spend 10,000 hours practicing how to play a traditional instrument like like an electric guitar to create interesting and complex music. Technology has made it so much easier that you can create studio quality stuff in your bedroom. I'll throw this in the decline of music education in schools. If you don't have someone teaching you things like music theory and the basics of playing a traditional instrument, you might never be exposed to the joys of that. And the guitar used to be one of those things that you had to learn about in music class. And here's something else that I think had an social media attention spans shrank to almost Nothing. Posting a 30 second clip of someone else's music as part of your TikTok feed requires almost zero commitment and patience. And if you're doing it for the likes, that's all you care about. Add in the distractions created by other social media and streaming and video games and there's less time and inclination to become an accomplished guitarist. Finally, the traditional consumers of electric guitars are dying off. Core buyers, usually older white guys, aren't buying gear in the same quantities they used to. There are, however, signs that this trend has been reversed. Covid had everybody locked in for long periods of time, and people learned to play the guitar out of boredom. And then they found that they really liked the physical nature of playing indie rock that continues to do well. It needs guitars. So do some flavors of hip hop and pop. Manufacturers have responded by introducing more affordable electric guitars and amps. And maybe most importantly, we have a new generation of guitar heroes. There aren't many, but they are there. I guess you can put John Mayer in the list, the guys in Greta Van Fleet, Tim Henson of the Van Polyfia, and there are a few others. But most of this new generation seems to be female. Her Yvette Young and Courtney Barnett, the great Cat Oranthe, Ellie Roswell of Wolf Ellis and Larry Basilio. This woman has become such a guitar icon that she has her own signature model. It's St. Vincent St. Vincent from 2017 in Los Angeles. She is a bonafide modern guitar hero and someone whose talent and success has helped reverse a steep trend in the sales of electric guitars this century. We can now move on to item number 34 on our list of the most important things in rock over the last 25 years. And that's the music biopic trend. This has been a big, big deal over the last 20 years. We've seen movies based on the lives of Elton, Johnny Cash, Bob Dylan, Amy Winehouse, Weird Al, Bob Marley, Whitney Houston, David Bowie, Tupac, Notorious, Big Kurt Cobain, Jimi Hendrix, Ray Charles, James Brown, Aretha Franklin, NWA and the Runaways. We could also look at movies like 24 Hour Party People, which did an excellent job of exploring the Manchester scene. Bohemian Rhapsody, the Queen biopic, was made for about $50 million and it has grossed about a billion so far. It also won a ton of awards including oscars, Golden Globes, BAFTAs, and more. Why? What is it about these biopics? Nostalgia. The stories of these artists are fascinating. Cross generational appeal, curiosity about the legends by younger people and finally by box office success. If Bohemian Rhapsody can make a billion dollars and Rocketman can bring in $200 million, studios are going to want to make more of these things. One of my all time favorites is Control, a 2007 movie directed by Anton Corbin, which told the story of Joy Division and Ian Curtis. It's pretty bleak and of course there's a tragic ending, but as biopics go, it's excellent. The popularity of biopics number 34 on this list of the most important things in rock in the 21st century for many people, the breakup of the White Stripes was a pretty traumatic thing. This is why I have it at number 33. They were a major part of the indie rock revival of the early 2000s, the rise of exciting and powerful new bands like the Strokes and Interpol, the yeah yeah Yeahs, Franz Ferdinand, Arctic Monkeys, Arcade Fire, the Killers, the Hives, and a few dozen more. The White Stripes had an excellent run from 1997 through to 2011, releasing several albums and songs that have become classics. But all things must pass by 2011, Meg White, always an introvert, was no longer having fun. She and Jack White were no longer married and she wanted her own life, and Jack had different ideas of where he wanted to take his music. The official breakup announcement came on February 2, 2011. The statement said that the White Stripes were done for a myriad of reasons, mostly to preserve what is beautiful and special about the band. Meg White has disappeared into obscurity domesticity, which is exactly what she wanted. Meanwhile, Jack has gone on to become not only an electrifying solo performer, but a music industry mogul in his own right. Here's the title track of the last White Stripes album, icky thumb in 2007. The breakup of the White Stripes in 2011 my pick for number 33 on our list of the top 100 moments in rock so far this century. Two more items for this episode. One is the most controversial lawsuit in the history of rock and the other is something that might not make any sense to someone outside of Canada.
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In our list of the 100 Most Important Moments in Rock in the 2000s begins in a cave somewhere in southern China. A bat infected a civet cat with a new virus. That animal somehow got into contact with a human and transmitted the virus to that person. By November 2002, there was an outbreak of a strange new disease in Guangdong Province. From there, it spread to Hong Kong, a major airline hub. That allowed the virus to spread to Taiwan, Singapore, Vietnam, and 20 more countries, including Canada. It acquired an official name, Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, or SARS for short. By the time it was all over, there were 8,000 confirmed cases and about 775 deaths. Nothing compared to Covid, of course, but the fear was real. Thankfully, SARS wasn't easily transmissible and the virus was contained by putting patients in quarantine. And by July 2003, the health crisis was over. But the damage to certain cities was severe, and that included Toronto. Toronto was the hardest hit city outside of Asia, with 400 confirmed or probable cases and 44 deaths. Again, compared to Covid, that's small. But at the time, hospitals were overwhelmed. The World Health Organization issued a travel advisory for Toronto that sank tourism and the convention business. Concerts were canceled and tours rerouted away from Toronto. Meanwhile, fear spread throughout the city. People stayed home. Millions of dollars disappeared from the city's economy. And even after things started to settle down, Toronto had this image as a plague city that no one wanted to visit. That's when an idea was floated. What if there was a big outdoor concert to attract tourists and boost morale? That's crazy, right? Well, no. The Rolling Stones, a band with a real affinity for Toronto, were on board, and within a month, facilities were secured at Dansview park, the site of an airport. The city and the province jumped in, and Molson Brewery stepped up as a sponsor. Tickets went on sale June 27, 2003, when Toronto was still under the travel Advisory. The price? $21.50. Ticketmaster blew through all 150,000 tickets allocated for Canada in a single day. The rest were sold in the US and around the world. Dan Aykroyd was The host the day included the Tea Party, Flaming Lips, Sass Jordan, the Isley Brothers, Blue Rodeo, Justin Timberlake, the Guess Who, Rush and AC DC. The day ended with a 90 minute set by the Stones, the CBC and much more. Music carried a live television feed and total attendance for the day was somewhere near 500,000. Looking all back, it seems like a fever dream. Did all those acts really come to Toronto and play in front of half a million people to help Toronto out of its plague city status? Yeah, yeah they did. Here's a bit from the Sam Robbins Band SARS stock on July 30, 2003, Toronto's message to the world that the SARS virus was not going to keep the city down. And that's number 32 on our list. For number 31, I have Metallica's lawsuit against Napster in 2000. Napster was created by Sean Fanning, a college student who wanted to find a better way of finding, organizing and sharing music online using this new thing called the MP3. Napster was released into the wild on June 1, 1999, and within a year it had millions of users around the world. The recorded music industry was caught completely flat footed. They were in the business of selling physical CDs through stores and had really zero idea of how the Internet worked. A lot of artists were also caught off guard, and that included Metallica. They found that a demo of their song I Disappear from the still unreleased Impossible 2 soundtrack was already bouncing around online. Then they found out that every Metallica song was being traded for free online. On April 30, 2000, they made a big deal of launching a lawsuit, with drummer Lars Ulrich becoming the face of the proceedings. He produced a list of 335,435 Napster users who had allegedly pirated Metallica songs. A list that took up about 60,000 pages, which he physically delivered to Napster's offices. The band wanted a minimum of $10 million in damages. And for all the Napster users trading Metallica songs to be banned from the site. Oh, and they wanted a bunch of universities to crack down on students who were using their networks to download music, the blowback from fans was intense. The story morphed into Metallica is suing their own fans. And no matter how much Lars tried to explain the band's position, Metallica's reputation as rich rock stars bullying fans increased. In the end, of course, Napster was shut down after reaching a settlement with Both Metallica and Dr. Dream, another filer of a lawsuit. And that happened in July 2001. And this was correct. Napster's practices were in violation of copyright and the company knew it. They didn't have any kind of business plan. They had no idea how they were going to make any money from what they had created. Their thinking was, well, we'll just wait until we've got so many users and so much currency among music fans, and then the record industry will just have to come to us and solve this problem for us. And then we'll figure out a business plan. But even as Napster shut down, copycats popped up. Grokster Audio, Galaxy, Limewire, Kazaa, and dozens of others. The record industry tried to sue them all out of existence, but didn't really work. Piracy was rampant and the industry didn't know how to stop. Was because of Napster that the recording industry had to get into the digital age. They were forced to reevaluate their business plan of selling pieces of plastic. They were forced into an adversarial relationship with record stores. And they were forced into the hands of Steve Jobs, who rescued the industry with the iTunes Music Store. But we'll get into that further up the list. And oh, look what we have here. Buried deep within the ongoing history vault, it's the actual version of the song that tipped off Metallica and set the whole legal thing in motion. Let's review episode 7 of the 100 Most Important People, Things and Events in Rock so far this century. At number 40 was the death of Scott Weiland in December 2015, the event that took us into 2016, the year when we saw so many famous musicians die. Number 39 was the return of Lollapalooza and the morphing of the North American Mega Festival into something completely different. Alt rock returned to the mainstream and the top 40, courtesy of Imagine Dragons and 21 pilots. That was at number 38. At number 37 was the introduction of AI into the music world, something that will only get bigger and weirder going forward. Then we have the Led Zeppelin reunion of 2007 at 36, the decline of electric guitar sales at 35, and the music biopic trend of the last 25 years at 34. Then I have the White Stripes breakup at number 33, Czar stock in Toronto at 32, and Metallica's lawsuit against Napster at 31. On episode 8, we'll look at a famous breakup and the subsequent reunion, the thing that really ended the reign of the music video channels, a couple of tech innovations, and sadly, two more deaths. Meanwhile, you can get caught up in all the chapters in this series by downloading the podcasts. And feel free to get back to me with what you think of this list so far. Use AlanLancross CA Music News and recommendations every single day of the week at my website, ajournalofmusicalthings.com, get the Daily newsletter. It's free. Why not? And we can also meet up on most of the social media networks. And don't forget about my other podcast Crime and Mayhem in the Music Industry. If you love True Crime with your music, you will love this. Episodes come out every two weeks and there are several dozen that you can get right now. Back with top 100 rock moments 30 through 21 next time. Technical productions by Rob Johnston I'm Alan Cross.
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