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Feeling drained, mistaking burnout for menopause, or trapped in relentless stress? In this episode of the Owning Your Menopause podcast, I am joined by Kelly Swingler, burnout expert and founder of The Chrysalis Crew. Kelly shares her raw, powerful story: collapsing in agony from a toxic job, ignoring her body’s cries until her sons pleaded, “Mum, your job’s killing you.” Once an HR leader, she’s now a fierce advocate for human-first workplaces, speaking directly to midlife women balancing work, family, and hormonal shifts.

We dive into how burnout and menopause symptoms blur, fuelled by societal expectations and outdated work cultures. Kelly makes it clear: burnout isn’t your fault, it’s systemic, often rooted in misaligned values. She shares practical steps to set boundaries, release impossible standards, and advocate for change.

Find out more about Kelly’s work here and connect with her on LinkedIn.

Owning Your Menopause is produced by Urban Podcasts.