What if the secret to raising happier children wasn't about perfect parenting techniques…but about the quality of the relationship between you and your parenting partner?

Kate Mason is joined by author, family therapist, and family systems expert Dr. Jenny Brown for a return visit that builds beautifully on their first conversation.

Jenny brings decades of clinical experience alongside her deeply personal journey of applying this work within her own marriage and family.

Drawing on the groundbreaking family systems theory developed by psychiatrist Dr. Murray Bowen, she and Kate explore what really happens to relationships when children arrive and why understanding your own role in relationship patterns is the most empowering shift any parent can make.

Whether you're feeling disconnected from your partner, frustrated by different parenting styles, or simply craving more connection in your family, this episode offers both the insight and the hope you've been looking for.

Listen For

2:45 How did Jenny's own family experience shape her decades of work with families?

9:14 Why do couples stop truly connecting and become roommates managing kids' logistics?

12:21 How should parenting partners listen to each other without fixing, advising, or comparing?

21:22 What was the moment Jenny realised she was getting in the way of her husband's parenting?

28:23 Where should disconnected parents start when they feel overwhelmed and don't know what to do?

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