What 3 Adults Learned Trying to Change Their Own Phone Habits

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Podcast Summary:

Parenting in the Screen Age – The Screenagers Podcast
Host: Delaney Ruston, MD
Episode: What 3 Adults Learned Trying to Change Their Own Phone Habits
Date: November 17, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode follows up with three parents—Hilary, Lisa, and Tori—who committed to a two-week “one small change” experiment to shift specific technology habits related to their phone use. Guided by the DARTS framework (Doable, Arrange, Reasons, Treats, Support), they share candid insights, victories, setbacks, and how involving their families in these experiments impacted their journeys. The episode is rich in practical wisdom and honest reflections, designed to help parents model healthy digital habits for their children.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The DARTS Framework Recap ([00:50])

• D: Doable — A realistic, achievable target
• A: Arrange — Structuring environment for success
• R: Reasons — Connecting with one’s motivation
• T: Treats — Rewarding oneself to reinforce change
• S: Support — Building accountability and encouragement

“DARTS comes out of our Screenagers program called Boosting Bravery, a peer-to-peer program that schools can use for free.” — Delaney Ruston ([01:20])

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2. Hilary: Conquering "Car Scrolling"

Habit Targeted: Stopping the habit of sitting in her parked car scrolling social media before entering the house
Goal: Immediate transition from car to home, modeling better behavior for her daughter

Successes & Strategies:

• Doable: Targeted daily car-to-house transition
• Arrange: Placed a sticky note on her dashboard reading “Stop” as both a cue and a reminder of her motivations ([02:46], [03:26])
• Reasons: Sticky note doubled as motivation, focused on not modeling distracting behavior to her daughter
• Support: Enlisted a neighbor and daughter for accountability and ongoing encouragement ([04:03])
• Impact: Noted a ripple effect—friends and parenting groups began reflecting on their own habits
• Continuing Challenges: Concern about backsliding, especially with work-related social media needs

“I was very diligent and I was very successful.” — Hilary ([02:33])
“I don’t want my daughter seeing me doing this because I didn’t want to model that behavior.” — Hilary ([03:40])
“This was just putting in a few steps to build that intention of just like, remember, you want to be in control of this thing, not allow it to be in control of me.” — Hilary ([07:16])

Notable Moments:

• Daughter remarked, “Oh, I see you’re hitting your goals.” ([06:03])
• Anticipating setbacks and discussing mitigation with family support ([09:10])

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3. Lisa: Keeping the Phone Out of the Bedroom

Habit Targeted: Preventing her phone from entering the bedroom at night and first thing in the morning
Goal: Reestablish a previous healthy boundary around phone use and bedtime

Successes & Strategies:

• Arrange: No substitutions needed—replaced phone time with book reading
• Reasons: Relied on internal motivation; felt tangible benefits
• Treats: Experienced better sleep, considered it a natural reward rather than giving herself something external ([11:49])
• Support: Used an accountability calendar and informed her friends for reinforcement ([12:04])
• Impact: No longer rushed through morning workouts; inspired son to keep his phone out of his room as well ([13:25])

“The treat was better sleep.” — Lisa ([11:52])
“I just feel like it’s better sleep, it’s less wasted time. I feel better about it.” — Lisa ([13:53])

Notable Moments:

• “Sometimes I’d even forget the phone in the office.” ([13:17])
• Acknowledges ongoing work to get her husband to adopt the same habit ([13:47])

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4. Tori: The Challenge of the After-School Brain Break

Habit Targeted: Creating a 30-minute phone-free “brain break” three times a week with her youngest child after school
Goal: Dedicated time for connection without digital distractions

Challenges & Lessons:

• Barriers: Realized after school is a logistical bottleneck, with phone used for vital family coordination ([16:03])
• Arrange: Made a symbolic “brain break case” for phone with her daughter, but left notifications on ([16:45])
• Outcomes: Initial attempt thwarted by illness and external demands; frustration ensued
• Family Conversations: Led to open dialogue about challenges and the frustrations of habit change; daughter was unfazed, “Everyone’s on their phones. Why are you making such a big deal out of this?” ([18:41])
• Pivot: The family brainstormed and found after-dinner “off-phone” time worked better ([22:35])

“This failure that I had has sparked other conversations which has been really neat.” — Tori ([23:18])
“I think her [daughter] not wanting to have that frustration be a part of our half an hour.” — Tori ([18:41])
“What I am trying in the midst of trying right now is from 7:30 to 8pm three times a week of having the phone completely out of sight… And it’s just been so much easier. It hasn’t—it’s been completely doable.” — Tori ([23:50])

Notable Moments:

• Daughter’s creative involvement by making a phone case ([16:45])
• Family decision to prioritize post-dinner tech-free time
• Began diving deeper into research and planning for more effective communication about tech and dopamine ([21:00])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the power of sharing goals:
  “Just by fact of bringing it up conversationally with other people… I think that caused them to kind of do a little self-check on how they were using their devices as well.” — Hilary ([05:32])
• On the challenge of sustainable change:
  “The insidious part of technology is that it is so accessible, it’s so compelling, and we use it so often without intention.” — Hilary ([07:16])
• On modeling for kids:
  “They like to be in that position—not all the focus on them of what they should be doing better and blah, blah, blah.” — Delaney, re: kids noticing parents’ efforts ([06:10])
• On setting realistic goals:
  “So often that is a problem, that the actual target is the problem. And so this is perfect—to be stymied, to realize that.” — Delaney ([18:13])
• On “failing forward”:
  “This failure that I had has sparked other conversations which has been really neat, really good.” — Tori ([23:18])

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Important Timestamps

• DARTS framework recap: [00:50]
• Hilary’s segment: [02:17]–[10:29]
• Lisa’s segment: [10:41]–[14:34]
• Tori’s segment: [16:03]–[24:53]

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Key Takeaways

• Small, specific changes are most likely to succeed.
  The DARTS framework provides an effective roadmap — even partial attempts and “failures” spark important learning and family conversations.

• Community and accountability matter.
  Sharing goals with friends, family, or children creates support and increases motivation for behavior change.

• Modeling is powerful.
  Children notice when parents work intentionally to manage their own phone use, which can prompt self-reflection within the family.

• It’s normal for changes to require iteration.
  Sometimes the chosen time or method isn’t realistic—pivoting and discussing openly with kids builds resilience and understanding.

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Final Thoughts

Delaney Ruston concludes by encouraging listeners to try their own “one small change” experiments using the DARTS technique, and to see both successes and setbacks as valuable steps toward healthier digital lives for the whole family.

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For more on the DARTS method and resources:
Visit screenagersmovie.com and check out the show notes or DARTS program information.

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Memorable Quote to Close:
“This was just putting in a few steps to build that intention of just like, remember, you want to be in control of this thing, not allow it to be in control of me.” — Hilary ([07:16])

Transcript

[A]

Hello, I'm Delaney Rustin, primary care physician and creator with Lisa Tabb of the four Screenagers movies. And this is Parenting in the Screen Age, a show about discovering the best ways to help our youth and ourselves navigate our rapidly changing digital world. In the past two episodes, we featured parents who wanted to make a meaningful change in how they use technology. Each of them took on our one small change challenge, the committing to a two week experiment to shift a specific tech habit. And as it happened, all three chose to focus on their phone use. Now we're following up with each of these women, Hilary, Lisa, and Tori, to see how their challenges went. Did their small tech change go as planned? What did they learn? And did they involve their kids in the process? To help model healthy habits? To guide their efforts, they followed a framework called Darts, designed to increase the likelihood of achieving a personal goal. Many of you tuned into the last episode, so I know you know about darts, but let me just quickly review it here. D is for doable. Choose a small realistic target. A is for range. Set up one's environment to make success more likely. R stands for reasons stay connected to one's motivation for why to make a change. T is for treats. Reward oneself along the way to reinforce these habits. And S stands for support. Build in support. You need to keep going. And when we have our kids, support us even better. And just FYI, Darts comes out of our screenagers program called Boosting Bravery, a peer to peer program that schools can use for free. You can check it [e-mail] or find it through the Screenagers website. And spoiler, not everyone stuck the landing. One of our guests didn't quite manage to make the change she hoped for. But what she learned along the way was meaningful and you'll see how it helped her to rethink things. We'll start with Hilary. She's a mom who had fallen into the habit of parking in her garage and sitting in her car to scroll through social media before going in the house. Her goal was simple but powerful. Stop the scroll and head straight into the house. So I asked her, how did it go?

[B]

You had a doable goal and you had decided you wanted to do it every day rather than less than that it was going to be an all or none. How did it go?

[C]

You know, I have to say I was very diligent and I was very successful.

[B]

Wonderful. Okay, let's get to the heart of this then. So arrange things. Did you do anything specific other than just say you're going to get out of the car. Did you set up things to make that new habit easier?

[C]

Yes, I put a sticky note on the dashboard that just said stop.

[B]

Perfect. And when you got into your house, in terms of arranging for not just immediately going on social media in the house, because we talked about that in the last episode. What happened when you got in the house?

[C]

Oh, well, typically when I get in the house, life gets, you know, I mean, life starts going. So I think that's. Yeah, that. That's. That was not the challenge. The challenge was just in moving me through.

[A]

Mm.

[B]

Okay. Arrange. You had that reminder, and then for the reasons. Did you end up reminding yourself of reasons along the way or anything like that?

[C]

I did not write them out specifically on the card, but the sticky note served two purposes. Just by saying stop. It was also kind of a reminder of, I don't want my daughter seeing me doing this because I didn't want to model that behavior. So that was enough of a reminder.

[B]

And then t. Did you give yourself any treats along the way?

[C]

No, I didn't. Okay.

[B]

That's okay. Well, then we get to support. And maybe part of the treat was saying to your family or friends, the support, whoever that was, that you were doing it. So tell me about the supports.

[C]

Sure. Okay, so I have a wonderful next door neighbor who she and I walk weekly and somehow just kind of going public with this was also its own form of support. So that accountability. Exactly, exactly. So I involved her, I involved my daughter, and then I have a group of friends that I'm. I. We discuss parenting issues in technology a lot. And so we also talked about that.

[B]

Do you remember talking with your friend when you were walking, just how that went, or did you actually bring it up a few times during the two weeks?

[C]

Oh, yeah, she checked in on me. And at first it was a big. A big funny thing. Like, it's always kind of embarrassing to say, hey, so I've been doing this thing. That's really not great. But then she liked the fact that she was going to be my trusted resource.

[B]

Exactly. I write a lot and talk a lot about that. What a gift it is to be asked to support someone. It's not a burden if you're not saying, come and clean my house every day. That's not what you're saying. You're saying, like, I, I value your help. Support. I value you. And so I'm not at all surprised she was tickled and pleased to help. Do you, Hillary, think that you influenced anyone either to actually try to make a new change for themselves regarding their tech time, whether in your family or outside of your family, you know.

[C]

Okay, so I think just by fact of bring it up conversationally with other people who, like I said, are in my parenting circle or others around, I think that caused them to kind of do a little self check on how they were using their devices as well. So I do believe it had kind of a ripple effect.

[B]

And any conversations with your daughter along

[C]

the way, when she noticed, like, oh, the garage door closed and I came walking right in, she'd say, oh, I see your hitting your goals.

[B]

They like to be in that position. Not all the focus on them of what they should be doing better and blah, blah, blah. And it is an invaluable experiment to do in the home, to be so open and to have these specific steps. Talking to her about darts just plants that seed in her head that there are different strategies people can try to take on a new habit. Yeah.

[C]

And I think, you know, not just applying it to tech, but applying it across the board. I mean, I think it's a great thing. You can generalize.

[B]

Oh, yeah, no, I use it a lot. For people who want to start exercising again, for example, they've lost a habit for a long time. And I really start with doable, really teeny. I say first thing in the morning, just five minutes, you want to do two times a week, three times, and I go, I really want you to actually crave wanting to do more. We have to get that part of the brain activated as opposed to. Often people start the other way. Right. They do too much, then they don't create the habit and therefore, then things will come in the way and they won't maintain it. And speaking of maintaining, Hillary, what is your thoughts now about moving forward?

[C]

Well, I would, I would like to maintain. I mean, I would like to just keep on doing what I'm doing. And I think it shouldn't be too hard because it kind of has broken that habitual reach. I think that's a little bit of the insidious part of technology, is that it is so accessible, it's so compelling. And we're using, we use it so often without intention. And so this was just putting in a few steps to build that intention of just like, remember, you want to be in control of this thing, not allow it to be in control of me.

[B]

You know, let me just ask a question because I'm wondering if it makes sense to give yourself another two week period so that you still celebrate it just to really cement this new habit.

[C]

This is what I fear happening. I can see being fine, fine, fine with this until like you said, something might happen where I just, because of the business side of running our social media page, I can see me thinking, oh, I'll just take care of this right here. And that's where I can see those like little creeping windows back in, I think, because it was like, nope, I've got two weeks. And I knew I was going to talk to you and I was like, no, I'm going to get an A on the assignment.

[D]

Right, right.

[C]

But my concern, I guess I, my concern is the back slide because I can, I can see that happening with me, to be very honest with another

[B]

technique that can be really helpful is to really focus and mark in some certain way the benefits that you're getting from this habit change. So when you're going in the house and you're having that time and all of a sudden you catch yourself going, oh, this is fun. Just, you know, maybe you have your calendar or maybe you say something to the family you really want to not just cement giving up a habit, but the fact that you've now adopted a new habit of having this new time, this extra time that you would have lost and you will lose if you go back to car scrolling.

[C]

Car scrolling. That's exactly what it is.

[B]

The other thing of course is you're going to still be walking with your friend. So I bet this will come up and you could have it be the start of every month. Like, okay, I'm really going to commit to the start of every month to tell you how it's going. Just, just think about some sort of check in thing that you can be putting in place and obviously talking with your daughter along the way. And if you start to backslide, to go to her and say, shoot, I've noticed I'm doing a little bit more of the car scrolling or I completely slipped yesterday. What do you think? What, what would you recommend? Ah, such a gift to her to be the expert, to be the confidant, to be the problem solver. So consider that as well.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, I will for sure.

[B]

Hillary, thank you so much for this follow up. It's great. I'm so glad you're feeling good about the change.

[C]

Yes, well, thank you for helping me enact it.

[A]

Next we'll catch up with Lisa, who was in last week's episode of Note. I had recorded the interview earlier and so she did have a full two weeks to do her challenge. Her challenge had to do with the

[B]

fact that she used to keep her phone out of her bedroom at night, but she had started to have it

[A]

with her in her bedroom and to use it at night and first thing in the morning. Her goal was to go back to having her phone be out of her bedroom at night.

[B]

Overall, how did that go?

[E]

It went really well.

[B]

Okay, so what had you done to arrange? Did you have a substitute of what you were gonna do rather than have your phone by your bed?

[E]

No. Cause it's just like my regular plan, which is I always read before bed.

[B]

Did you have a good book?

[E]

Yeah, I'm 50% of the way through.

[B]

Okay, so then, did you put reasons anywhere in the house?

[C]

You know what?

[B]

I didn't.

[E]

I just kept this little sticky that I had taken notes on. I think I was motivated enough that I just wanted to make that change.

[A]

Great.

[B]

What about the treat aspect? Did you do any, like, high five, any treat for yourself, just feel good ultimately, or do anything at the end

[A]

of a week or the two weeks?

[E]

No, I think the treat was better sleep.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

It's just a natural treat. A natural consequence because you were ultimately sleeping better.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And then for support, what was your goal? For support, what had you thought on what ended up happening?

[E]

So there were two things. One was like an accountability calendar, and the other was asking for supporters, my friends, I was gonna ask them. So the accountability calendar, I just started, like, filling it out in the morning and at night, around how I slept, what time I put it away. It was quite detailed. And then once I got into a rhythm, I stopped recording it because it then I felt was, like, in a habit mode. And I had gone out for dinner with my friends. I told them I was doing this.

[B]

How did the mornings go then? So you weren't checking your phone and then being cozy in bed and staying on it longer than you wanted. You got out of bed, you would check your phone. Still pretty.

[E]

Not even sometimes. Like, I actually didn't always. I do sometimes. I mean, I don't want to say this is cheating, but sometimes I don't like to work in bed at night. But when work gets busy, sometimes I do have my laptop, so I may be able to text. Like, I'm not on social media. And so if my laptop's there in the morning, I may open it. But no, I got up and I started a new workout program. And not that I wasn't working out before, I just wasn't as rushed. So I was just getting into my workouts quicker and getting downstairs, and sometimes I'd even forget the phone in the office.

[B]

Wow, Wonderful. How did it go with the kids? Did your two boys, did they ask about it? Did you mention it now and then over the two weeks?

[E]

Weeks, I just kind of announced it sometimes at night. Like I was like, oh, well, I don't sleep in my phone room anymore. But no, like, one of my sons keeps it in the office too. So both of us keep it in the office. And he likes not having it in his room. Like, I think, I think he knows it's a distraction. I think I'm getting closer to getting my husband to have it out of the room, but we're not there yet.

[B]

Neat. And are you going to continue with this new target goal that you achieved?

[E]

Yes, definitely. I just feel like it's better sleep, it's less wasted time. I feel better about it. You know, I got through more of my book, which was like more relaxing to me.

[B]

What a difference. You were saying prior you had been really having to rush through your workouts or just. And then just, yeah, starting the day like that as opposed to now. Sounds like you really made your mark, really hit it and you're feeling good. It's really exciting.

[A]

Yes. Wonderful.

[B]

Well, Lisa, this has been great. Thank you so much for doing this debrief on how it all went, this experiment, and I'm just super pleased to have gotten all these insights from you and your experiences.

[E]

Yes, thank you. Thank you for putting me up for the challenge and supporting me

[A]

more after this break. Before we dive back in, I wanted to let you know about our four screenagers documentaries which focus on helping kids and teens navigate the challenges of this digital age. We created these films to be screened in schools and at community events. Over 20,000 hosts have shown them thus far. Along with the movies, we provide discussion guides, promotional materials and other tools so that you can easily organize a truly impactful event for your community. And if your school wants to use the movies in the classroom, we have options for that too, along with a full curriculum of lesson plans designed for various grade levels. To learn more about the movies or inquire about becoming a host, visit screenagersmovie.com there's a link in the show notes. Now back to the show. Now let's turn to Tori. Her original plan was to carve out a 30 minute phone free quote brain break three days a week. A quiet time to connect with her 10 year old daughter right after school. With two older teenagers, Tori was especially eager to create focused space time for her youngest. But things didn't go quite as planned. And that's perfectly okay. In fact, Tori took it as an opportunity to pivot and re strategize. Let's hear how things unfolded.

[D]

Well, it didn't go very well. It was during that period of time we have three kids, and a lot of logistics happened in that little window. And all of our logistics tend to come through our phone. So whether it's getting an update from a team or update from a parent that you're doing carpooling with or an update from your child as well. So, unfortunately, I was not very successful. And then the first week, I actually got hit with a cold that was pretty bad. So it just wasn't even doable. The first week?

[B]

Yeah. The first day, did you talk to your daughter about, okay, I'm going to try this, and then, boom, you realize, oh, shoot, I have to check my phone. Or what happened in that situation?

[D]

Yes. So after we chatted, because you and I chatted, and then I tried to start it the next week, she and I had a really great chat. So she's 10 years old, and she actually went and created a little phone case for me out of paper, and it was my brain break case, and we were super excited about it. Then the first week, I got sick. The second week I tried to do it, and I had my notifications still on. So maybe that wasn't a good idea, but had let people in my life know that I was trying to take that break. So my husband and our business partner, but it was all the other items. So a notification from the team, a notification from a parent that I hadn't anticipated. How many come through in that half an hour?

[B]

Tori, how did you get those if the phone was in its brain break case?

[D]

Yeah, good question. It was so over on the side of the kitchen, but the notification, like, the sound was still happening and had

[B]

you turned that off? It sounds like it would have been a problem because you really needed it as a tool for communication of managing the kids after school.

[D]

Yeah, right. Exactly. So I tried to do it for kind of that Monday to Thursday, and then by the Thursday, it was a conversation of, wow, this really isn't working, and then got into a conversation of, okay, maybe there's a better time of day. Maybe this just isn't realistic. Like, I felt like, ironically, that d. It just wasn't doable in that half an hour.

[B]

Yeah. And so often that is a problem is that the actual target is the problem. And so this is perfect to be stymied to realize that. And that is important information for regrouping and trying something Different. I'm curious before we go to that, because you learned and I think you maybe have a new plan of attack at some point. What was the conversation like with your daughter around this and your other kids?

[D]

Yeah. So that time of day, our other two children who are 14 and 16 aren't typically home from 3 to 3:30 yet. So it was just our daughter who's 10. And I was very frustrated with myself and I felt my daughter was much more. Mom, it's not that big a deal. Everyone's on their phones. Why are you making such a big deal out of this? And it was this kind of circle of me being frustrated. And I think her not wanting to have that frustration be a part of our half an hour.

[B]

Yep, good point. So it was either being on the phone, the frustration, and now this situation. You were frustrated and on the phone, although you had been frustrated and on the phone prior. So it was like, ah, how can we ideally have less of the logistical after school? So that. That could be one technique there. Because no matter what, if you don't have this rule, I know how much you've talked about how precious that time is. You'd really love to get to focus with her on that. Did you put reasons up in the house on that?

[D]

You know what? I didn't. I just put Brain Break. I talked about the reasons, but I didn't actually visually put them up.

[B]

And so you talk to your family at a different evening or something? Yeah.

[D]

And I'd say we're trying to make talking about technology more a regular thing. Having the interview was great with you because it was a catalyst for me to update the family on what I'd done that day. So it was a very natural progression. It wasn't just me sitting there preaching. So it was great.

[B]

Yes. And I think for families that do commit to once a week, talk TechTalk Tuesdays or something like that, just to make it be fun to talk about something interesting about technology and then some. Sometimes it doesn't even have to be all the time something. So it can be a part of a talk that a family has a discussion. So you were having the discussions with them, like, I'm trying to do this, but oh, shoot, it didn't go well. Did you end up having that kind of discussion? Because ultimately that's what we're trying to model to them, that changing behavior, this is a model trying to do it. And then it didn't go so well. And this is my frustration because change is hard. And then ultimately what I learned about it I'm curious what of those things you felt like you got to talk with them about?

[D]

Yeah, so initially it was just with my daughter, kind of those three or four days. And then after that brought it back to. We typically try to have dinner together a couple times a week. It doesn't always work out because of, you know, sports and et cetera, but expressed my frustration and then brainstormed a bit of when would be a better time of day. And the interesting thing as well too is to hear from the kids that they just kept reiterating, mom, you're just so worried about all of this. And I think that has been a really good catalyst for me to do a bit of a deep dive into helping them understand why I'm so worried. And that's actually where I've kind of taken a break from talking with them and doing a bit of a deep dive into the research around dopamine and all the different things that start to happen. So because of my kind of failure, I've realized that I think I just keep saying the same thing over and over to them, but it's not having an impact. I'm just really expressing this frustration like you can't do this. It's, ah, you know, this isn't great for your brains. This isn't. And it's not being effective. Communication.

[B]

Excellent, Excellent. So thinking through other communication ways to talk about why having breaks and what are the costs of using technology in certain ways at certain times is something that you're thinking to do more of as you move forward. Because this is going to be many conversations over many years.

[D]

Ah, absolutely. Where we've netted out. Is it the brainstorm of between the five of us, we kind of brainstormed when would be a good time and I think the path of least resistance was really after dinner. And typically we've actually already started to make a bit of a habit of not everyone in the family, but try to get the majority of the family down and either doing homework or reading or just being in the same space together without the technology that is pulling them away and distracting if it's that effective tool of homework. I would say that this failure that I had has sparked other conversations which has been really neat,

[B]

really good. And then the support really for darts. D A R T S. We said treats. Did you talk to them about treats?

[D]

The treat that I had said was the pickleball game from Relasting and I have a pickleball game scheduled for this Sunday.

[B]

Oh, great.

[D]

Yeah, yeah. So it's good to have that in the calendar.

[B]

Exactly. Well, thank you Tori so very much. This has been great to revisit how it went. And did this lead you to think of doing anything else? Trying a new darts?

[D]

Yeah. So what I am trying in the midst of trying right now is from 7:30 to 8pm Three times a week of having the phone completely out of sight. And things I learned from last time is I have notifications off. I feel much better about that time because that time of day I can truly disconnect. And we're on Wednesday and I've done it Monday, Tuesday so far. So. And it's just been so much easier. It hasn't. It's been completely doable. And then it's also been fun to to have light, quick conversations with my kids about like hey, look at me 7:30 to 8, you know, so it's been great, great.

[B]

And so just really doing it for a two week period. That's what I really work with my patients so that you have that sense and you can reboot it. But what happens if we don't have any kind of end goals? Often it just will start to fade away. Whereas if we're consciously doing an intake at certain intervals until it really becomes a habit, that can increase the chance of it lasting longer.

[D]

Perfect. Thank you for being a catalyst for helping me make some change.

[A]

A heartfelt thank you to Hilary, Tori and Lisa for joining us on the show and sharing their experiences around changing their screen time habits. It's inspiring to hear their journeys and the progress they've made. I wish them all the best as they continue on this path. If you're looking to improve your own relationship with your phone or other technology, I encourage you to explore our show [e-mail] to learn about the darts method.

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What a gift that you chose to tune into the show today.

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The Screenagers movement is all about doing this work together. If you want to learn how to spark collective action by bringing one or more of our four Screenagers movies to your school, workplace or other setting, visit screennagersmovie.com at the website. You'll also find my weekly parenting blog

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Finally, I love hearing from you, so

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email me at delaneycreennagersmovie.com what ideas do you have for future episodes?

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Today's show was produced by the following people. Me, your host, Delaney Rustin, Lisa Tabb, Rebecca Tolan, and Robbie Carver.

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Sound design and mixing was also by robbing.