A Response to Dan Bongino

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Part Of The Problem – "A Response to Dan Bongino"

Host: Dave Smith (with Robbie the Fire Bernstein)
Network: GaS Digital
Date: January 10, 2026

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Overview

This episode is a candid and fiery response from Dave Smith to Dan Bongino, centering around Bongino's reaction to criticism over his recent public statements and his legacy as an FBI official and pundit. The episode dissects Bongino’s combative online exchanges, his defensiveness on Epstein, his role as a regime gatekeeper, and the underlying tension in right-wing and libertarian movements concerning accountability and transparency.

Smith and Bernstein pull no punches, addressing both policy hypocrisy and the personal attacks Bongino has hurled, incorporating direct social media exchanges and audio clips as evidence. The tone is snarky, relentless, and unapologetically confrontational.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Background and the Twitter War (00:45–04:41)

• Dave explains the setup: Smith previously critiqued Bongino’s shifting narratives regarding Epstein. A Twitter clip of Dave’s remarks prompted Bongino to retaliate online.
• Dave relays Bongino’s response was more abrasive than expected:
  • Dave Smith [01:33]: “I got that prediction wrong. Holy shit.”
• As social media pressure built, Bongino began blocking critics and then posted a thread referencing the ‘lib/black pillar symbiote’—implicitly targeting Dave.

2. The Epstein Criticism (02:18–04:41, 47:40–49:17)

• Smith accuses Bongino of lying about the Epstein case, highlighting a contradiction between Bongino’s past and present statements:
  • Dave Smith [02:51]: “You either lied then or you are lying now. And we all kind of know you’re lying now.”
• Bongino is called out for covering up for elites and the deep state under the guise of fighting them.
• The hosts replay and dissect Bongino’s old appearance where he insists, “I’ve seen the whole file. He killed himself.” Dave points out the absurdity given the vast quantity of documents just being released now.

3. Bongino’s Social Media Meltdown (10:37–16:44)

• Dave reads and roasts Bongino’s replies—which range from childish (Goodfellas’ "shine box" reference) to the bizarre (personal jabs at Dave’s family name and children).
  • Dave Smith [14:41]: “He goes, tell your family to blink twice if they need my help. I'll get right over there. Which is a fucking weird thing to say.”
• The hosts discuss the projection and insecurity beneath Bongino’s reactions, noting he seems rattled by persistent criticism.

4. The Changing Media & Political Landscape (05:08–09:11)

• Dave draws parallels to Romney’s anti-Trump speech and Jordan Peterson’s instructions on political discourse, arguing that establishment interventions now cost influence rather than bolster it.
• Dave Smith [08:47]: “It just don’t work like that anymore... If I were to try to sell out tomorrow... It would just ruin my credibility.”

5. Gatekeeping, Straw Men, & Deflection (21:45–35:35)

• The episode highlights how Bongino pivots from specific criticisms (Epstein, wars, Trump’s spending) to building straw men:
  • Playing a clip, Bongino claims, “You get these black pillars... that's all you do... He'll shut down the border. Ten people across... Why wasn’t it zero?” [22:09].
• Dave and Robbie dismantle this argument, pointing out that virtually no critics make such claims. The actual issues are Epstein, spending, war, and broken promises.
• Dave blasts Bongino’s attempt to limit debate topics:
  • Dave Smith [29:42]: "Make a list of the things that we are allowed to debate and then... shove it up your fucking ass. No one cares if you decide tariffs are okay."

6. Loyalty, Team Sports, and the “Black Pill” (33:43–36:13)

• Smith rejects the idea that critics should act as cheerleaders for the administration:
  • Dave Smith [33:43]: “I'm on the team that doesn't protect pedophiles. Not your team.”
• He underscores the right of skeptics to voice opposition—being a critical voice does not equate to being nihilistic or “black pilled.”

7. Challenge to Debate (19:00, 39:46, 40:36, 43:31)

• Smith repeatedly invites Bongino to a public debate, suggesting venues and guaranteeing an overwhelming win.
  • Dave Smith [41:48]: “Dude, I will get on a plane after our shows tonight and go do this tomorrow morning and fly back here to make my shows tomorrow.”
  • Raises the stakes: promises to polish Bongino’s shoes live if he doesn’t get at least 80% online poll approval post-debate.

8. Meta Commentary on Political Media Credibility (16:52–18:34, 52:26–53:39)

• Dave and Robbie compare Bongino’s credibility collapse to that of Anthony Fauci and others who have been exposed as unreliable in the modern media era.
• Dave stresses the new dynamic: audiences will not follow sell-outs and “regime guys” into ideological battle—they want substance and accountability.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On projection and panic:
  • Dave Smith [10:59]: "I'm just...I got a thick skin for viciousness, and I'm better at being vicious than Dan Bongino is. So, like, come on, keep going, dude."
• On gatekeeping complaint:
  • Dave Smith [29:42]: "...then make a list of the things that we're not allowed to debate and then crumple that list up and shove it up your fucking ass."
• On team loyalty:
  • Dave Smith [33:43]: "I'm on the team that doesn't protect pedophiles. Not your team."
• Inviting an open debate:
  • Dave Smith [41:48]: “I will get on a plane after our shows tonight and go do this tomorrow morning...”
• Summing up the stakes:
  • Dave Smith [43:31]: “Either... Bongino will now run away like a little girl and he will absolutely never see me, or two, I, Chris Cuomo, him in a debate. Those are the options here. What's a better white pill than that?”

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Important Timestamps

• 00:46–04:41: Twitter beef setup – Bongino’s initial response
• 10:37–16:44: Reading and responding to Bongino’s tweets (shine box, family/children comments)
• 21:45–29:56: Breaking down Bongino’s podcast clip and bordering on censorship/”black pill” accusations
• 33:07–36:13: “What team are you on?” and the sportsification of politics
• 39:46–43:11: Debate challenge escalation; Dave’s confidence in an open confrontation
• 47:40–49:42: Revisiting Bongino’s past statements about Israel and Epstein
• 52:26–53:39: The new era of media credibility and public exposure

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Tone & Language

Unfiltered, humorous, confrontational. Dave and Robbie use sarcasm and cutting analogies. The tone is both adversarial (towards Bongino and political gatekeeping) and self-aware, openly inviting debate and criticism of their own stances—consistent with their libertarian, anti-establishment ethos.

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Conclusion

Dave Smith’s response is merciless, loaded with receipts, and emblematic of a new media paradigm that punishes hypocrisy and rewards transparency. By calling out what he sees as Bongino’s opportunism and lack of substance—especially regarding Epstein—Smith positions himself, and his audience, as the authentic counter-narrative in a landscape fatigued by regime protection and disingenuous discourse. The episode closes with expectations for more rounds in this public battle, underlining the show’s commitment to holding establishment figures’ feet to the fire.

Transcript

[Dave Smith]

Foreign. What's up? What's up, everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the Problem. I'm Dave Smith and he's Robbie the Fire Bernstein. We are out here in Philadelphia. Great show last night at Helium. Got two more shows tonight, two more shows tomorrow. Always love this club. Always great time.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

I like this chair. I want to take this home. It's like a Dr. Evil look for me.

[Dave Smith]

It also really does look like the background really makes it look like we're in different rooms, but we're not. This is just the way the hotel room is.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

It really does look like an optical illusion on there.

[Dave Smith]

It is pretty funny. But so anyway, so we were supposed to. The plan was to do like a members only episode.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

There's too much chaos today.

[Dave Smith]

We couldn't. We couldn't not record a public episode. If. If you guys haven't followed Dan Bongino, the FBI deputy director, five minutes ago now, you know, turned podcaster again. He crashed the out on me. I don't know how else to describe it. And anyway, there's just. It's very interesting. So I want to kind of go through this whole thing. So this essentially what happened, right? And me and you. It's funny because we were talking about this on the car ride up here and the last episode I did solo, you weren't there. So I was like filling you in on what I said on the last episode. And then I was like. We were like, I don't think Dan Bongino is going to respond. I think he's going to try to just ignore it because he does.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

He responded.

[Dave Smith]

I got that prediction wrong. Holy shit. So. So essentially what happened was somebody on Twitter clipped the part of the show where I was talking about Dan Bungino. And, you know, look, obviously Dan Bongino crashed the out and ended up saying a whole bunch of shit. We'll get into all of that. And it's. I mean, the levels of projection are just unbelievable. Like, there's. If there was ever a better example of the old adage that every accusation is a confession, you just could. You couldn't believe it. Like, it's. We'll get into that in a second. But now, look, obviously I was being harsh on Dan Bongino.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

He deserves it, though.

[Dave Smith]

But it's above board, like, obviously. Yes. Look, is it going to make Danny feel a certain way when I say that his legacy is covering for pedophiles? Sure, but it is. So what am I not going to say that? But anyway, so I basically. And look, the Thing that I was making the point about was just so obvious. I mean, it's just like, look, he's stuck in this position. You either lied then or you're lying now. I mean, is that. It's just undeniable, right? Either you lied then or you're lying.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

When he was talking about Epstein, when.

[Dave Smith]

He was talking, he was saying Epstein was tied to foreign intelligence and that there was a pedophile ring and that there were all these files and that we knew all of this. And then he's saying he killed himself. He's not tied to intelligence. There's no sex trafficking, all that. So you either lied then or you are lying now. And we all kind of know you're lying now. You know what I mean? So that's the position. That's essentially the criticism that I made of him now. This guy on Twitter clipped it, and he said, everybody should put this in. In his comments and his replies until he has to address it. And then I saw on Twitter, people were saying he's blocking everyone who posts it, and they would have their screen shares of him. Blocking, huh. That's kind of interesting. Like, I just don't. I don't know how in Dan Bongino's not, albeit not very impressive mind, but in his mind, what, he thought he was going to avoid ever having to talk about this or something. Like he could just block everyone or something like that. But. So then here, I'll read the tweet just so people. So then when I see that he's blocking everybody, he tweets. Here, let me find the first one. Okay? He tweets the lib slash black pillar. Symbiote. Symbiote. I don't know. That word is a funny little organism. It's even led by a, quote, comedian. Then he goes on to just say this really dumb, you know, post. These morons can't even follow their own battle plan. Quick example. I do a guest hit last night on a podcast, and the LBP symbiote, that word again, starts rage tweeting, no one's gonna watch. When it was the number one live stream in its slot. Then they melted down, claiming they were just there to attack you. Do these clowns even know how this business works? And when you point out. Anyway, so he has this long tweet. So I just responded back, he's clearly talking about me.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

I think symbiote is like the Venom character in the Marvel movies where you're, like, hijacked by a parasite type thing, and now you're like a hybrid creature. I don't know. Nerds in the chat.

[Dave Smith]

Anyway. Seems pretty gay. Anyway, whatever. So I just, I literally just responded back to this. I said, yeah, yeah, nice story. Why did you lie through your teeth about Epstein? Just, just asking a question. Now. I.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

Look, I promise he could they give him his heroin back?

[Dave Smith]

No. Yeah, there you go. No, I want to say this is one of the things that I found really interesting about this. And we'll get into like all of his responses, then we're going to play some clips from what he's saying on this show that he's bragging about. And by the way, it is true that that stream was huge and got huge numbers. It is also true if you go look through the comment section of it, you have to get through 200 comments of everyone saying you lied about Epstein to get to one comment that's even kind of supporting him. So, like, it's not really a brag that like, your numbers were good. Like, yes, obviously you were the guy who was one of the biggest shows, said you were going to go get justice for Epstein and 15 other things. Completely sold everybody out. And now you're coming back. People are interested to hear the first thing. And also there were questions like, are you going to come back and say something like some real shit or are you still essentially an arm of the regime? And that question was answered. But so anyway, so he's. But this is what I, There's. I know I've brought this examples up to you before, Rob, but there's, it's a great example was in, in 2016, Donald Trump's running for president. He's running away with the thing. And Mitt Romney came out, was tapped to give this big speech. Mitt Romney was the Republican nominee from four years earlier. And traditionally in politics, you know, at the time, people still hadn't realized that Donald Trump broke traditional politics. Like, that doesn't exist anymore. But traditionally in politics that'd be like a big endorsement getting the last nominee. And you know, so he, he comes out like, look, however you feel about Mitt Romney, he lost to Barack Obama, but he won the Republican primary that year. They cheated Ron Paul out of it. That's another story. But tens of millions of people voted for him, you know what I mean? And like he was the Republican standard bearer. And he comes out and he goes, guys, anyone else except Donald Trump, it cannot be Donald Trump, like in the strongest possible language, gives a full speech, just ripping Donald Trump apart, his business practices, him personally, what he stands for. All this stuff, it didn't even kind of move the needle. Donald Trump didn't lose one point off of it. The only thing that happened was Mitt Romney lost all credibility and has for since been viewed as a joke by the Republican base. There was another example like this that I thought, which was when Jordan Peterson went on Joe Rogan like a couple days after I debated Douglas Murray. And Jordan Peterson is the one who had the most cachet and influence with the young people who was on the, the pro Israel side. To the, to the point that like if you talk to the average 25 to 30 year olds, a huge percentage, like men, if you talk to men age 25 to 30, a huge percentage of them will say that Jordan Peterson had a profound influence on their life. He comes on to go, guys, some things are out of bounds. You can't have groipers, you can't have anti Semites, you can't do this. Didn't move the needle one point. He just lost all his credibility. And it's something about, and this is something I'm really optimistic about. I'm actually not a black pillar, despite what this idiot Bongino says. There's a real interesting dynamic in the new landscape where it, it just don't work like that anymore. Like in the same sense where like, let's say my audience, who, who really likes me, you'd say I've, I've built up a lot of credibility with the ones who really like me. If I were to try to sell out tomorrow, like, if I were to try to go, no, guys, this is why we have to support this bullshit war. This is why we have to support this car, something like that. It wouldn't move them at all. It would just ruin my credibility. Like and, and so like, look, when he first says this, he goes comedian. He's obviously talking about me. And so I was like, all right, well I'm gonna, I'm gonna respond to him. But there certainly was a part of me that I was like, all right, look, I might lose this fight. Like in terms of popular opinion, I mean this is Dan Bongino. He's had one of the biggest shots. This is a guy who's gotten, you know, like I've never gotten anything. He's had million dollar contracts with Fox and Rumble and all this other stuff at huge, huge shows.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

And the pedophile backing.

[Dave Smith]

Yeah, that's the real power structure. Yeah, he's got, he, he's got, but he has the power structure behind him. He was just the deputy director of the FBI. And also he's got like, I think 7 million Twitter followers. Like, I don't even have a measly million. And so I was like, whatever. I'm still, I'm gonna. I think I'm right about this. So I'm gonna fight him on this and we'll, you know, we'll see how this goes. Dude, I've ratioed him on every goddamn post the entire Internet is talking about his crash out. And this isn't a comment on me because, like, with all the times that I ruined these guys, they. He did it to himself. It's not like I did it. He decided to spur out and have this insane reaction. But there is something so fascinating about that. To just watch these guys think like, oh, he's the guy who's got some juice. Nope. You just lost your credibility, dude. I mean, obviously he lost the credibility over lying through his teeth, but like, anyway, I don't know. So I. So I found this to be very interesting that he kind of came out and it's like, nah, dude, the people just aren't following you into battle on this one because how can you. It's just so indefensible.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

And his. Firstly, he obviously doesn't want to actually have a conversation on any of these topics, but his, his diss track, what is it? It's get your shoe box. Suddenly he's concerned about kids. But it's your kids. I mean, let me, Let me read the Internet turned on him quick on that one.

[Dave Smith]

Well, let's, let's read through this a little bit. So this is how he responds. But by the way, literally all I said and I look and I'm calling him a liar. He is a liar. But like I said, I said, yeah, you had nice story. Why you lie about Epstein? Like, I'm just. I'm just doing what. What he told me to do, which is never let up. Right? That's what he told me to do.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

Because you're not black pilled and you're still optimistic.

[Dave Smith]

That's right.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

About that. We're going to get justice for the victims and expose the deep state.

[Dave Smith]

There you go. Okay, so he's. So I said, yeah, yeah, nice story, whatever. Why'd you live at abstain? This was his first response, which is just, listen, I'm sorry guys, but it's like, I know I repeat this a lot, but it's goddamn surreal being me. This is the deputy director of the FBI five minutes ago. Hilarious that you not only missed the news cycle for the last year Pretty sure we caught it. But that you also knew you were the moron referenced in the post. Watching you advertise your dipshittery on a series of debates over the past year was my guilty pleasure while I was working. No. Now go back to your mama's spare room and write me some jokes. And get your shine box too. My shoes got a scuff last night while lighting up the live stream while you clowns were rage posting. Thanks, Dan. Now, dude, just, every inch of this is like just the weirdest. Cringe down to saying Dan at the end of it. Like, it's your tweet, dude. You don't need to sign your name to it. And the, the shine box reference that he, the Goodfellas reference that he goes to again in his next tweet. I mean, a lot of people pointed this out, but it's pretty funny. It's like, did you stop the movie at that line? Have you not made it through the rest of it? Because it's a weird, this is a weird character to decide to be. It's like the guy ends up getting stabbed to death in a tr. Drunk. So like, okay, but again, I mean, just, it's just so pathetic. Dude, like, what type of response is this? And first of all, what a weird admission that he was watching my, my debates. All of this. It's like, okay, he had time for.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

That with his 9 to 5 job over at the FBI.

[Dave Smith]

But dude, didn't you have to be at work at like 8 in the morning?

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Dave Smith]

And you couldn't bring your wife with you and you still had time to watch my debates. And so. Okay, so I, I, you know, so then obviously I got to keep responding to this now because it's, it's Dan Bongito. So then, okay, sorry. So let me find this here. So then I, I posted challenging him to a debate. He of course didn't respond to that. And then, well, I guess the next one, I guess that was the last one yesterday, right? And then today I woke up this morning and I go, I went on Twitter. I mean, I woke up, I think I woke up at like 7am this morning. I went and got coffee and called home, talked to the family and stuff. And then I like opened Twitter like around 8am and he, he posted this. Dan Bongino said your family and kids must be ecstatic that their name is Smith so they can blend in with the millions of other Smiths out there and pretend they don't know you. Imagine being dumb enough to post what you just Publicly and then pretend it isn't copium. You're scared. I can smell you from here. Now go get your shine box like I told you. Again. So, you know, I responded. Holy crash. Out. Are you seriously posting about my children at 7am I said, keep. Who got ordered to go lie to the public? And said, yes, sir. Scared. Come see me. I'll end your career and you know it. Run away, little girl. So, like, okay, I'm talking. But he started talking. I'm talking back to him. I'm intimidated by Dan Bongino. And then he tweeted this, which I gotta say, this is the one that a lot.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

Oh, he went worse than the. Than kids.

[Dave Smith]

This. No, no, no. This is what he said. He goes, tell your family to blink twice if they need my help. I'll get right over there. Which is a fucking weird thing to say. Now, listen, I want for everybody out there. A lot of people on the Internet were saying, this is a threat. You know what I mean? Like, this is an FBI guy, and he's intentionally invoking your family and then saying, I'll be right there. It's a thinly veiled threat. But, guys, calm down. Dan Bongino is saying that if my kids are in trouble, he'll stand up for children. And we all know when he says that he's lying, he won't follow through on it. So don't you guys worry. My kids are just fine. Dan Bonino ain't doing so. Everybody can relax. Now. Look again, like I said, he's getting ratioed on this. He is. Like, the reaction, it just could not have gone worse for him. But what. What can you say about all of this? Dude, it's like, think about the levels of projection here. Think about the left. First of all, you see how, like, insecure he is? He can't take a little bit of being called out before he has to snap into being as vicious as possible. Another thing is, like, I'm just. I got a thick skin for viciousness, and I'm better at being vicious than Dan Bongino is. So, like, come on, keep going, dude. It's just so easy to, like, play it back. Like, dude, really, dad? Like, you're. I'm the. I blink twice if you need help. Who are we talking about here, Dan? We all watched your hostage video. When you said Epstein killed himself, you're the one who fucking, like, literally got told, like, a boy to go out and lie and then fucking did it. Because you're that much of a bitch with this talk of Protecting children. Your. Your legacy is protecting pedophiles. You're just not in any position to come police this space. Sorry, dude, it's not gonna happen.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

I'm also. This is what, day one of Dan Bongino out of. Out of the FBI. So this is gonna ramp up. This is just round one, baby.

[Dave Smith]

There's something about the age we live in, man, where people are getting exposed when people were always full of. And then people didn't see through it, thought they were the real deal, and then they find out that, oh, no, you were full of the whole time. There are so many people like this, so many people who were, like, respected figures just a few years ago who have, like, their credibility has gone to zero to zero. And Dan Bongino might be the best example out of all of them.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

You think he tops Fouchy?

[Dave Smith]

No. Fair. Fair point. No, he doesn't top Fouche. No. Nobody, probably nobody tops Fouchy.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

You're saying as he reemerges into the cons marketplace for news, and he backed the regime on not investigating Epstein, he might get treated like a fauci figure where people are dismissive. And it's.

[Dave Smith]

Well, you know, honestly, even as I say it, it's up there. It's almost as bad as. As Foushee. Because, like, the thing is that it's not that Dan Bongino sat there and then and said, you know, we're going to get to the bottom of Russiagate, we're going to get to the bottom of Epstein, we're going to get to the bottom of election fraud, we're going to get to the bottom of all. And didn't do anything. Like, that would be one thing. That would be like, you failed. But that's not what he did. He actively covered up the Epstein case. So he didn't fail. He exposed himself as the deep state. He was the anti Deep state guy and then proved you're the deep state. And I mean, look, the guy was a secret service agent and then an FBI.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

What, a what? An inside baseball disc that he's at Fouchy levels of credibility.

[Dave Smith]

Yeah, I mean, well, look, that's. I. I think so. I think. And. And look, I do think this was, like, a good example of it today. And he particularly, like, he disgusted a lot of people in his own base who are like, yo, what. I mean, like, look, even. It even writes itself. It's like, dude, oh, you got. Where was all this heat for the Deep State criminals, dude? Oh, your beef is just with me. Your beef. What Your beef is with a comedian who called you out for your.

[Dan Bongino]

That.

[Dave Smith]

And look, he knows I'm sitting here challenging him to debate. He's spending all this time talking about me. He knows he won't, he won't do that. I, I will. Chris Cuomo, that dude, if he ever steps into an arena with me. And I wasn't scared of Chris Cuomo, I'm not scared of him. Dude, I'll do exactly the same that I did to, to Chris. And he knows, he knows he doesn't want it.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

And so what is, what is his message? That Trump is saying that everything's wonderful. So for everyone in the conservatives who have concerns with these wars that Trump's flirting with, we're, we're creating panic and division amongst the Republicans. So it's like a, it's like a Ben Shapiro thing.

[Dave Smith]

Yeah, something like that. I mean, they just have nothing here. Hold on. I mean, if we want to. Let's hold on one second. Let me check the.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

We're black pilled. If we're concerned with the American debt, increasing government spending, the fact that Donald Trump wants to lower the interest rate now, wants to prop up homes that the boomers can sell them.

[Dave Smith]

Yeah.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

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[Dave Smith]

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[Dan Bongino]

And, you know, endless complaining. Then just don't watch the shows. It's okay. Like, this is a constitutional republic. You're not obligated to listen to my show.

[Dave Smith]

I.

[Dan Bongino]

What, Justin, what was the line in the air with Jim? It's. It's not a freaking airport, man. You don't have to announce your departure. Like, you get these black pillars. The thing about black pillars where everything sucks all the time is that, well, we're demanding accountability. But you're not.

[Dave Smith]

Great.

[Dan Bongino]

So am I. That some of you, you're endlessly complaining about things you don't know, even don't know anything about. Like, that's all you do. Like, he'll shut down the border. Ten people across the mother. Why wasn't it zero? Okay, okay. Well, can you just pause it?

[Dave Smith]

Pause it already. Right there.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

I've never.

[Dave Smith]

I mean.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

Yeah.

[Dave Smith]

Has anyone ever once made that complaint? Show me one example of anyone. What a straw man. Has anyone once ever said that we all acknowledge they did a good job with the border. Hey, by the way, Dan Bongino, you're not Tom Holman, are you? You were at the FBI. What the are we talking about? They're demanding accountability. Good. I'm demanding accountability, too. But you don't even know what you're talking about, Dan. Then by admission, you didn't know what you were talking about when you were saying the same thing before you went in. Same. I'm just saying the same thing you were saying. Nobody is saying the border. Ten people getting through the border means you're not doing a good job or whatever. Because almost it is universally accepted that, like, yeah, Trump got control of the border. I've said it. Even when I was on Theo Von's show the other day, I said it on almost every show that we do. If I'm assessing Trump, you got to at least start by, I admit that he did a good job on that. The people aren't flooding in the work the way they were under Biden. We're Mad that you covered up the Epstein scandal. You're going to talk about everything except that this is too ridiculous.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

It's Epstein and flirting with these wars and the spending and all these are fair criticisms.

[Dave Smith]

Yeah, that's right. And, and again, like, they don't take on any of those. It's just this complete madeup thing that nobody's ever said. And again, like, oh, just the black pillars who just always want to complain. Like, what is this other than just another way of saying I don't want to hear criticism for my track record over the last year. That's all you're saying.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

It's also unclear to me if in part us, but there's an environment now where war is so unpopular that Donald Trump has been relegated to these targeted strikes and would be going for more. And he's still flirting with an Iran situation. No, I mean Venezuela. So we'll see how it plays out. But the idea that people criticizing what they don't like doesn't change what the administration can get away with. And then, I don't know, it's just, this has been the thing since day one with conservatives of you got to give Trump a chance. It's 40 chess, don't criticize. And it's like, if he's doing something that I don't like, that's this job is to call it out. And I actually do think it has an impact and that it educates people. And then sometimes people realize, oh, that's bad policy.

[Dave Smith]

Yeah. And then again, like, just tell me how by this own logic, this, this idiotic logic, if it can be classified as logic, how does this not also apply to Dan Bongino and everything you did? Were you a black pillar about Biden? Like, what does this mean? Like, were you, were you like you were saying the same shit about Russiagate and about Epstein and about, you were saying the same shit that we're all saying. The difference, what's been revealed is that we mean it and you don't. And by the way, I got, I got my sources, man. Like, I, at this point in my career, I know a lot of people who are very close to the administration. I obviously, Dan Pangino was in the FBI. He's got more information than I have, but I have it on pretty goddamn good authority that he was active in the COVID up. Like, it wasn't just like, like Damagino wasn't just what I said before. So I probably should almost amend that. He, he wasn't just like the bitch who got told to go cover it Up. He was actively in on it. Not. So my. My suspicion is that he was a fraud the whole goddamn time. And so, again, just good luck with this line of. This line of argument.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

And it's also, I guess he thinks instead of political pundits, we should all just be your cheerleaders.

[Dave Smith]

That's.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

That's really what he's advocating for, is that everyone should change what they're doing on their shows and not criticize what they don't agree with, but instead just cheerlead what the administration's doing.

[Dave Smith]

Imagine, dude, imagine I went in an adult cheerleader. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. A grown. A grown male cheerleader like Dan Bongino. I. It's like if I went into government and then supported socialism and then came out of government and went, what's with all these people talking about liberty on podcasts? This is crazy. Like, good luck, Dan Bongino, with this, with this recovery here. Let's.

[Dan Bongino]

Let's keep playing is a big deal that way. And there's a cost to that. And the cost, you see, is in, you know, polling numbers around the midterms. You can't let this negative vibe constantly set in. That doesn't mean healthy debates about policy are not welcome. Hey, I'm not here.

[Dave Smith]

Pause it. So, so then listen. Now, this is the other thing that they do. Oh, my God, it's so good. So first of all, just watch the, the trickery and just literally, guys, for a second, just think about how stupid this argument is, what he's saying. He goes, there's a cost to all you guys complaining about this. And the cost is, look at the poll numbers. We're going to get killed in the, in the midterms. Oh, that's. It's our fault. It's our fault that you guys took the greatest political opportunity in modern American history when the Democrats were absolutely defeated. Defeated down and out on the mat. The Democrats had a 24% approval rating after they pretended that weekend at Bernie's guy was sharp as attack and then ran the dumbest in the history of politics. They were humiliated for a generation. And you guys up so bad that they're going to win at the end of this year. And that's our fault. That's our fault for criticizing you guys. You like the nerve of you motherfucker. You buried a story about a pedophile. You. You. I mean, dude, are you not afraid of God? Like, I mean, the guy, he's going to tell me and look at me and say that my children are embarrassed of me because I'm a podcaster who's an anti government guy. That's. That's such a shame for their kids to live with. You covered for pedophiles actively. There's probably a bunch of them who are still at large right now because of you, Dan Bongino. I would if I ever did that. Literally, dude, just thinking about doing something like that terrifies me to my core that my son would grow up and know that one day.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

I don't know. I can smell the black pills on your breath, buddy. Oh, yeah, I had too many for breakfast.

[Dave Smith]

So he's like, so it's our fault that you guys blew this political opportunity and are going to get creamed in the midterms this year. But then he goes, healthy debate is okay. I'm not a tariff guy. Oh, well, thank you, Dan Bonino. I. I didn't realize tariffs are something we can have a debate about, but not burying the Epstein files. That's. But thank you. I didn't realize. Dan Bongino, you were in charge. Dano, do me a favor, and I mean this very sincerely, okay? Just be clear, man. Like, look, we're all the dumb black pilled people down, so I'm talking right to you into the camera, okay? Make a list of the things that we are allowed to debate and then make a list of the things that we're not allowed to debate and then crumple that list up and shove it up your fucking ass. No one cares if you decide tariffs are okay. What? Tariffs are okay, but the wars aren't. The Epstein files aren't. Suck a dick, Dan Bongino. Sorry, dude. Like, what are you talking about here? It.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

It feels like Covid censorship, where this is like the questions you're asking will create vaccine reluctance or whatever. Whatever terminology.

[Dave Smith]

Vaccine hesitancy.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

Vaccine hesitancy.

[Dave Smith]

Yeah.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

It just. This feels like the same thing, that even if you have reasonable criticisms, there's a. Yet the consequence to you guys not actually enacting an agenda of being America first is that people are going to criticize you for that. And yes, the consequence of that is that you will lose the midterm elections because what you're doing is not actually representing the people that you made promises to. And you know what you could do? Instead of complaining about people complaining, you could listen to the complaints, maybe address some of the problems, which would be Epstein transparency, I guess the economy, but I don't. I don't really think Trump's plans for that are going to help at all. But there's definitely war reluctance. There's definitely support for Middle east reluctance.

[Dave Smith]

Donald Trump is, as of right now, as of right now, this moment, okay. Donald Trump is. They've, as we've talked about, the goalposts for Iran have now moved from. It started with this, right? It started with Donald Trump saying, I will not allow Iran to get nuclear weapons, okay? Then the goal post went to I will not allow them to enrich up to 60%. Okay? Then the goalpost went to intercontinental ballistic missiles. Now, the latest process, don't shoot a protester now. It's just how they treat their own people is now the pretext for war. He, Donald Trump has claimed that we are going to run Venezuela, okay? And we're going to be determining who the next regime there is. And Donald Trump just asked the Pentagon for a, or just asked the Congress for a $1.5 trillion defense budget. Now, the only reasonable explanation for why you would ask for that is that you're gearing up for a major war. Just to be, just to understand right when we had the, when the budget was at 800 billion or whatever it was, that is the biggest defense budget in human history. Donald Trump asked for a trillion dollar defense budget, blowing that out of the water. Now he wants an additional $500 billion. So like, hey, Dan Bongino, I'm not going to limit the conversation to tariffs. We're also going to talk about this.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

You see, I don't necessarily see it as a Donald Trump wanting more war or gearing up for war. I think it's part of his plan to more spend more than any other president ever. And so, you know, if you're going to go for your golden goose of spending, it's the War Department.

[Dave Smith]

He certainly, he certainly has. And remember, and like making, making the.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

Country great again, as we're having economics problems requires a lot of government spending.

[Dave Smith]

Yeah, that's right. And look, I mean, again, he's just the, the whole administration is so vulnerable on all of this because it's, I get so many promises, man. So do you remember what, remember the tariffs were going to generate so much revenue that we were going to abolish the income tax. Oh, sorry. Best I can do is you still got to pay the same exact taxes and everything's more expensive this year and the tariffs aren't bringing in really any revenue. And the, you know what I mean? Like, it's just the whole thing's a goddamn disaster. And then it's so funny, just the logic of going, the administration's a disaster. And now we're losing. And the problem is that people like me pointed out that it's a disaster here, let's, let's keep playing.

[Dan Bongino]

Said that a thousand times. Debating policies are fine. Debating policies are. I think a lot of the so called damage from the terrorist was dramatically over exaggerated. Even people who don't like them having to acknowledge that now the economy's motoring 4% growth, but the black pill complaining and whining all the time about the administration, it's just like, man, what team are you on? Holy Moses, man.

[Dave Smith]

So pause it. I can answer that. I can answer that. Dan Bungino. I'm on the team that doesn't protect pedophiles. Not your team.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

There you go.

[Dave Smith]

Not your team. What type of like, honestly, what type of argument is this? What team are you on? Like what? So that's it? This is sports now? This is just, this is just shirts versus skins and I gotta just cheer like, because, come on, what team are you on? I'm on the team that isn't for starting reckless, unnecessary wars of choice, isn't for drowning my children's generation in debt, isn't for debasing our currency and doesn't protect pedophiles, doesn't protect criminals in the deep state. That's the team I'm on. And anybody who wants to be on that team, I'm more than happy to have you on that team. Okay? I'm on the team with you, if anybody stands for that. And you know what, by the way, this is what's so goddamn infuriating about this, right? Especially from my perspective. And like, you know, obviously Dan Bongino and these guys don't know anything about this, but like, as you know, I took a lot of heat from libertarians for supporting Donald Trump and supporting Cash Patel and supporting Dan Bongino. When you told me you were for no new wars and for cutting government spending and for, you know, like all these things, I went, okay, then I'm on your team. But then when you sold out and demonstrated that you were always full of shit and never really believed any of that, well, now we're not on the same team anymore, dude. And what type of argument is it to go, oh, the people complaining, what team are you on? How about take on one of the complaints and one of the real ones, not the one about the border that you just made on. Take on the complaint. The only argument here would be like, if you're saying you're complaining when it's not a justified complaint.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

There'S also something very circular about complaining about people complaining.

[Dave Smith]

I know what you mean. It is a weird. Yeah, that is a weird point. Dan, stop complaining about.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

There's so much. There's so much complaining, and we got to get rid of the complaining. I'm very upset of all these wines from these other people.

[Dave Smith]

Yeah, no, you're right. That is a good point. There is a real performative contradiction going on there. I don't know. Is there any more of that or was that basically the end of it?

[Dan Bongino]

It's okay. There's a door, you know, go find the freaking exits. Because I don't.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

I don't.

[Dan Bongino]

I don't really give a shit. I'm not here for anybody's money or anything like that. I'm too.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

I already got my money from the deep state, so I'm good.

[Dave Smith]

Yeah.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

Really. I collected my paycheck. Now I'm just trying to try and do this other job. Or I gaslight you and pretend everything's awes along with Trump.

[Dave Smith]

Dude, it's so bad. Dude, it's so bad for him because it's also just sitting there going like, I don't even care. Like, whatever. I don't even care. While you're spurging out on Twitter like, dude, you care so much. Like, I guarantee you he's watching this show and it's making his blood boil right now. Dan, you're watching the show and you're upset, and we all know it, and we're all laughing at you. So anyway, stop talking about my family, you goddamn weirdo. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Body Brain Coffee. We love Body Brain Coffee here at. Part of the problem. If you are looking to naturally boost your testosterone, you gotta check this out. It's delicious coffee. You don't have to worry about taking pills and supplements. I know personally, I'm never gonna do that, but I could easily just have a cup of coffee every morning. And it's a delicious cup of coffee, too. I've been drinking the stuff for months. I feel better than I have in years. It's real. A lot of people agree with me. I. You got to go check it out. And of course, we'll be supporting our boy Louis J. Gomez in the process. And it's very important that we do that. And it's also very important that we let him know that we were the ones who blew up his coffee brand. I need this from you people, so go check them [e-mail] and make sure to use the promo code Dave20. That'll get you 20% off your next order. Bodybraincoffee.com promo code Dave20 for 20% off. Naturally. Boost your testosterone and have some delicious coffee while you're doing it. All right, let's get back into the show. And so what a weird thing, too, to just like. It's like he just did it to himself. Why? Like, first of all, look, just as a. A basic line of decency, and I'm the comedian. I'm the fucking nightclub act here. He's the deputy director of the FBI, right? But I'd say never really talk about anyone's kids. A weird line to cross to even, like, go on there. But, like, you're the deputy FBI director. And the beef. He saw the clip of me was blocking everyone who posted it. The beef is over Epstein. Like, you're invoking children when the thing is all about Epstein. What a weird, like, own goal for you to, like, even bring this up. And also, I mean, it's just. It kind of just gives me license to be as vicious as I want to be now. Like, all right, you're going to talk about my kids. I mean, I could now talk about your hairline or whatever. You know what I mean? That's not as bad as this. Like, I don't know. This is not like. Like, this is what he's got. He was sent back pretty clearly to me as an agent of the regime to try to go in and like, be like, hey, we gotta roll back the tide from the black pillars, AKA the people who criticize the Trump administration's demonstrable failures. And this is what he's got. This is the argument. See, the thing about it is, is that Dan Bongino, much like a lot of these guys, he's. He's always been this way. He's kind of a lunkhead. Like, he's not really, like, an impressive thinker or anything like that. But what he would do is he'd get on the right side of a lot of big issues. And that's how he got his credibility, is he got on the right side of the Epstein issue, on the right side of. Of Russiagate. And probably, I don't remember. Probably was good on. On the Ukraine war. And then he would. I remember he really went down the conspiracy rabbit hole about the Secret Service allowing Donald Trump to get shot there, you know, but it's like, okay, so that's what people liked about you. Now you think you're going to be able to come back being the opposite guy. Being the guy who says, no, no, no, no. No questions about any of this shit. Good luck, man.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

Well, the Bungino crash out coverage will continue here on part of the problem.

[Dave Smith]

Oh, dude, we're not letting up on this now. This is going to be. Listen, Dan is not. And this is the truth, dude. And then it's another thing, like, it was just kind of funny, is that he's like, he's talking shit. What did he say to me? He said, I'm scared. He can smell me. He can smell my fear or something like that. And then again, the whole thing is entirely projection. I'm sitting here and saying, hey, Dan, come see me. Like, let's sit down face to face and do a, do a live debate. Like, I'm not scared of shit, dude. I fucking. I remember think when I went into the Chris Cuomo debate, I was like, I remember thinking to myself, I'm gonna, I'm gonna make him try to fight me. Like, I'm just gonna, like, I'm gonna make him angry enough that he's gonna fight and it's good. Like, and it's like. And if it does, then we're fighting, dude. I don't care about that. Same with Dan Bongino, man. So I'm not.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

Tough fights.

[Dave Smith]

Yeah, listen, I'm, I don't give a. About any of these guys are all. Dude, these guys are. It's all ridiculous. Damn. About Gino talking. You're like a bald 58 year old man. No, no, you're not fighting anyone. But I'm just saying, like, dude, I'm not afraid of this. You, you know, you won't do it. There's no way he will. There's no way he'll do this debate. It would go so bad for him. So like, okay, dude, but like, I don't know. Now I'm just. Now I get to. Since you talked all this crazy, now I'm just gonna just demonstrate that to everybody that you're the one who's scared of this. You're the one who's scared to talk about. Because look, look, I mean, think, just think about the case that I'm making right now. And look at the clip we just played of him. How could you. How can this debate possibly happen? It's Cuomo. The, the best he'll be able to do is. I never said that. And then. Okay, here's the tape of you saying that.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

Maybe. I mean, I have no authority to, to say this in Any capacity. Maybe you could goat him with a Rogan invite and have another. Have another one of those.

[Dave Smith]

Dude, if Joe's down to do it, I'll do. I'll do it in a second.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

Yeah, the Joe Rogan episode with you and Dan Bongino addressing the government's handling of the Epstein case.

[Dave Smith]

Dude, I swear to God, I mean.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

He could put to rest all the black pillars out there on the biggest show with the biggest audience.

[Dave Smith]

Dude, I will get on a plane after our shows tonight and go do this tomorrow morning and fly back here to make my shows tomorrow.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

That assumes. That assumes Rogan would do it, but.

[Dave Smith]

Yeah, yeah. Well, I don't know.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

Well, look, talk about a big show.

[Dave Smith]

There's no. Listen, I'll just say this. If Dan Bongino had the stones to come face me, if he could. If he could work up all the courage he has and come see me, there is no shortage of people who would be thrilled to host that debate. And. And it would. That I could. I mean, I could just. If you're rattling off the names of all the people you could think of, you know, that Pierce Morgan or Patrick David or Joe Rogan or whoever, like, if you went through that, that, that list, a whole bunch of them would be down to do this, and everybody knows it would be huge. It would be a ginormous show that would get millions and millions and millions of views. So, hey, man, Dan Bongino, if you're the big tough guy who talks a big game and you can smell fear, you can smell my fear from where you are. Step up, homie. Like, dude, what? Listen, you're going to talk about my kids. You're going to say you're the big tough guy and you can smell my fear. And you're also saying that what you want to do here is gatekeep the black pillars. Okay, well, you got an opportunity in front of millions and millions of people to come do it.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

I think we could even call the event Treating America's Black Pill and that he has the opportunity to have the floor and put to rest all the negativity. Or you have the opportunity to prove that there's still optimism that we can take down the deep state if we can expose characters like him who are pushing the Epstein thing down the drain.

[Dave Smith]

Listen, dude, this is a binary here. One of two things happens. Either what's going to happen, Dan Bongino will now run away like a little girl and he will absolutely never see me, or two, I, Chris Cuomo, him in a debate. Those are the options here. What's a better white pill than that? This is no matter what. This is fantastic.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

Look at how optimistic we are.

[Dave Smith]

But, like, I don't know. There's also something like, there. There is just like. I mean, if you want to say, like, complaining. It's like, we're Jews.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

What are we supposed to do?

[Dave Smith]

Yeah, it's in our DNA.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

Find our heritage.

[Dave Smith]

Well, like, it's also like, first of all, I'm not black pilled. There's a big difference between complaining about something and being pessimistic. Those are not the same thing. But also, like, what does it really mean? Like, it's like I said before, like, all of these are just different tactics to be like, you're not allowed to oppose this. What is. What does that mean? Complaining? Like, what if. If I had come to. Like, again, how does all of this shit not apply to Dan Bongino? If I had come to Dan Bongino and just been like, man, your coverage of the Biden administration, you're just always complaining. What type of counter is that? He's like, yeah, well, they're. They're ruining the country. What, are we not supposed to oppose that? Like, complaining is just another way of saying being opposition, being opposed to a thing. I'm like, yeah, I'm opposed to you guys destroying the greatest country in the history of the world, and it's the one that my kids got to grow up in.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

So without blinking.

[Dave Smith]

And now everybody can't blink or damn bodgino is going to be at my house.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

That's where the FBI is going to take your kids away from you if they're outside blinking.

[Dave Smith]

Jesus Christ. Okay, that's good. Oh, looks like actually just got text from that Dinesh d'. Souza. Debate is confirmed for Thursday. Thursday afternoon. I'll be debating him. That's great. Really looking forward to that one. All right, let's. Let's go to.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

And that's going to be on Zero Hedge, everybody.

[Dave Smith]

Zero Hedge, moderated by the great Judge Napolitano. I can't. I can't be too complimentary about judging Peloton now. It seems like I'm just kissing the ass of the moderator, but I really do love Judge Napolitano. Okay, so let's do. Hold on. Wait. What was the one here? Let's play the. The. The clip. I love this. The one. It's the one. That's my tweet. If you find this weird, that just means you're black belt. This was the old Dan Bongino. I'm Just never. These are just the ones you've seen before. But I just figured, like we should put this in the episode. This is when Dan Bongina was asked about what's an. What's a cause that's dear to your heart. Sorry, what.

[Dan Bongino]

What causes dear to your heart causes dear to my Israel. Defense of Israel.

[Dave Smith]

What is number one? Sorry, what. What causes dear to your heart? Just a. This is just like a one off thing where he's on a podcast and he's getting asked questions. But is it not. It's like, isn't this all, like they're all in. It's like the old George Carlin. Like it's a big club and you ain't in it. Like, what Weird. What causes dear to your heart? Imagine and the first thing you say is the defense of a foreign country. Like nothing about your own country came to mind. Just like a cause that's dear to your heart. But just think about how many you would rattle off that would all be related to the United States of America. Like, why? I'm sorry, it's not black pilled, it's not conspiratorial. It damn sure ain't anti Semitic to just say that like, no one should be in our government. If that's what your first thought is of. Like, what's a cause that's dear to your heart? Israel. And then it's like, I'm sorry, dude, but first of all, Dan Bongino's on record saying that Jeffrey Epstein was Middle Eastern intelligence. Okay. Like you said that, motherfucker. Were you lying then or are you lying?

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

That was when he was blackpilled.

[Dave Smith]

Yeah, that's when. Oh, that's when he was Blackpool. That's before he got white pilled. Being white billed is when you just sell out. So like it's like, oh, okay. Interesting though, the guy who says Israel is his top issue is the one who buries the story about the guy who he himself had acknowledged was Israeli intelligence.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

That was before he saw the footage of him killing himself. Yeah, which I guess is the missing minute that none of us got to see.

[Dave Smith]

Yeah. Which is in the files, by the way. Also. Oh, here, let's like, I mean, we'll play the other thing, the other clip here too, because it's just the. Here, let's play the other clip, which is the one, the, the famous one with him and Cash Patel talking about blink if you need help, blink if you need help. Take. Play this other clip. You said Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide. People don't believe it. Well, I mean, listen, they have a right to their opinion. But as someone who has worked as a public defender, as a prosecutor, who's been in that prison system, who's been in the Metropolitan Detention center, who's been in segregated housing, you know a suicide when you see one, and that's what that was.

[Dan Bongino]

He killed himself. Again, you want me to get.

[Dave Smith]

I've.

[Dan Bongino]

I've seen the whole file. He killed himself.

[Dave Smith]

I know it's hard work. Yeah. Okay, so let's just look at this again. Fucking blink if you need help. God damn you hypocrite. Okay, so let's get this clear, right? Dan Bongino said, I've seen the whole file, which is an interesting way to put I've seen the whole file. How many documents are there now, Rob, that have been declassified?

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

Apparently they're working on releasing another 5 million that they just rediscovered after they did the initial release.

[Dave Smith]

So, like, what. What do you mean you've seen it?

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

That's why all their eyes are so weird. It's because they've just been trying to read through 5 million pages.

[Dave Smith]

Oh, you know what? I take everything back. It all makes sense now. Oh, my God. Poor Cash Patel. You had to read 5 million documents. Does it do that to your eyes?

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

That's right.

[Dave Smith]

Five million documents. All right, I can make. Just. So just think about this, all right? Think about how obvious the lies are here. There. He's claiming. He's claiming he's seen the files, so he knows for a fact that he kills himself. These files are declassified now. Where are they? And now they're saying it goes from 1.7 million to we found another 1 million to we found another 5 million documents. Are you claiming you read 5 million documents? Maybe you just read the 1.7 million. Like, what? You know, because, like, unless you can say that or whatever, I mean, I guess you don't need to read all of them. Where's the one that's the proof that he kills himself? Does. Do you ever have to elaborate on that? Do you? Like. I don't know. I guess I've just. I find this whole thing fascinating because really, again, ironically, here, Dan Bongino just gets everything wrong. This is such a white pill to me. This is like. This is an annoying. The fact that Dan Bongino is getting destroyed over. This is such an incredible white pill. But white pill just means being optimistic for people who don't know the lingo. But, like, it's like Dan Bongino was sent to return to the new. Like, like the nucleus of where the new media action is. You know, it's not the old legacy media anymore. It's. It's the Internet, it's the podcast scene. And you just can't lie like this here. You can't be successful being a liar here. Like, this is such an enormous white pill. Dan, Dan, you should have gotten a contract at Fox News, man. You could go be successful at Fox News. I mean, not when I say successful. They'll pay you a lot of money. People won't really watch your show. But, like, there's. You could go do that here. I don't know, dude, how do you think. So you think you're going to be able to come back into this world, start policing gatekeeping? He's openly talking about this, like, on Twitter. These are all his tweets about how gatekeeping is actually really important and all of this. So you think you're going to get to do that, but here's the thing, like around these parts now, if you want to do that, you got to take on the other side. You got to either sit down and debate someone who. Competent who. Who's on the other side from you, or you got to make really compelling arguments. At least you think you're going to sit here and lay down this bullshit and that's going to convince anybody. Like, dude, again, it's just such a funny. It's such an interesting dynamic where it's like. It's like the. The fucking Matrix. Like they're sending out all of their Agent Smiths to stop the bleeding, but every time a new one comes, they just get taken out. Like, you just. You can't stop this dude. Toothpaste is out of the tube. Liars like, like Bongino are getting exposed.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

Yeah, Hills keep sitting there with the. I give you the Dan Bongino guarantee.

[Dave Smith]

Yeah, there you go. All right. I don't know. Is there any more destruction of Dan Bongino required for today? I think.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

I feel like that was just round one, and hopefully he doesn't give up on broadcasting and maybe we continue to get under his skin and he keeps, you know. Well, I will tell you, showing his cards, and we'll keep telling you he showed his cards.

[Dave Smith]

Well, it's. You know, what's interesting is that he kind of reminds me of what happened with me and Scott Horton after we did the David Worms or episode. One of the things that was kind of funny, and I must say kind of amusing in like a guilty pleasure type way is just like how rattled he is. You Know what I mean? Like, there's. There's obviously a real insecurity, and I'm sure on some level it's because. Well, it might be because he has a guilty conscience, but I think on some level, it's like the machismo thing, where it's like, I got the big dick around here. I'm the guy. And just being like, nah, dude, you ain't got. You got no juice now. Like, congratulations. And it's. Anyway, it's been fun. So I. In a weird. In a weird way, I almost feel, like, thankful to Dan, like, yo, dude, you really should have just ignored this.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

So stupid.

[Dave Smith]

This was such a bad way to play again. The thing is, like, he's just. He's actually not that bright. So, like, he just didn't really, like, think this through. But with all of these guys, I mean, I remember thinking, like, you know, like, when Cuomo agreed to debate me, or even when Douglas Murray agreed to debate, I remember just being like, that's a mistake, dude. I would not. I would not advise that. And, you know, if they could go back in time, they would not, you know, like, they would take it back and not do it. So, like, anyway, I don't think we're gonna get this one. That's my. My guess. I don't think Dan Bongino will have the balls to. To actually do it. But that doesn't mean we can't, you know, keep pushing for it and exposing them for that. And. Yeah, but, you know, challenge issued. Anytime, any place. Let's go. Well, let me say that.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

Losers.

[Dave Smith]

Anytime. With some security concerns. I'm not just meeting you on your territory.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

Losers gotta shine the other one's shoes.

[Dave Smith]

Lose.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

Done. Done by.

[Dave Smith]

We'll.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

We'll pull the Internet on. Win or loser.

[Dave Smith]

You know, dude, I'll. I'll say this. Yeah, dude, we could pull the Internet after the debate. If I don't get 80%.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

You're giving a spread. How are you gonna police for bots or whatever else might. Might sway that vote?

[Dave Smith]

Honestly, I'm gonna win so, so dominantly that it will. Patrick. Okay. Had a poll out. I think if I'm remembering the numbers correctly, it was like 30, 000 people voted in it, and 97 said I won in the Chris Cuomo debate. 80 you0 ain't going to get enough bots, Dan. 80%. Wow.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

That's. I mean, talk about the. He'd have to be to walk away from that. We'll set it up on one of the biggest platforms the whole Internet can watch. And if you don't get 80% from.

[Dave Smith]

Oh, I smell Dan Punino's fear. Smell his fear from here. How are you gonna say no to that one? Dude? I don't get 80% of the poll, I'll shine your shoes on camera.

[Robbie the Fire Bernstein]

All right.

[Dave Smith]

All right, guys. That's our episode for today. Hope you enjoyed this one. Catch you next time. Peace, Sam.