Dave Smith (55:12)
And, well, there's no question you're right about that. I mean, it's clear from his tweets about it, you know, that he likes the like. Yeah, I'm very smart. I got $400 million for nothing. The Democrats would have spent $400 million for it. But I'm smart, you know, like, yes, obviously, this is what motivates Trump, but. Yes, but just to. On top of what you're saying, you're like, if there is some type of corruption or quid pro quo, that is a part of a broader context where we're negotiating our way out of wars. Like, I'm sorry, that just does not rise to the top of my outrage list. And there's just so many things to be outraged by. I everything, every inch of our federal central government is built on corruption. The whole goddamn thing, the whole thing is a system rigging the economy against the regular people, for the powerful people. I mean, everything down to, like, the biggest, you know, the biggest portion, excluding Medicaid, which is just, you know, not great for a lot of other reasons. But if you look at the biggest budget items in the US Government, if you take Medicaid out, it's overwhelmingly like the majority of the budget is defense, Medicare, and Social Security, okay? Defense is all just a scheme to transfer money from the American people to weapons companies. Social Security and Medicare is all just a giant transfer of wealth from a poorer group to a wealthier group. The boomers, not me, the real boomers. It's like the whole. There's so much corruption. But. But so here, this is really what you're exercised about, is that before we got into the next disastrous, catastrophic war, we went, oh, maybe we could negotiate our way out of it. That's number one, what Ben Shapiro is mad at. And then one of the negotiating parties wants to buy Donald Trump a really nice gift. That's what you got. That's what really exercises you. And again, you know, you could look at this because Ben Shapiro, like, I went back to that tweet from 2011. Ben Shapiro has a long track record of. Of this stuff. Ben, you know, Ben Shapiro, who supported all of the wars, never gets this exercise about talking about how incompetent some of the people who said these wars would be very easy, how incompetent they are. In fact, he'll still probably have all of them on his show and have friendly relations with them. He doesn't get exercised about that. It's Witkoff, you see, not the architects of Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya and Syria and Somalia and Yemen, the war in Ukraine, the current destruction of Gaza, none of that gets him exercised. But Witkoff, attempting to negotiate because he happened to say at a certain point that, like, oh, man, there really are a bunch of war hawks in our government who just want this war to continue, and Israel themselves just want the war to continue. We're trying to negotiate an end to it. That's what exercises Ben Shapiro. And what's. What's beautiful about this is that you can't hide this. Like, people read through it and they see, like, dude, I've never seen you get this angry about anything else. I'm just saying, like, it. You can. I've said this for many years, but you can learn a lot about where someone stands politically by what gets, like, by what gets them the angriest. It's an important way to assess people because essentially, we all have to have A hierarchy of outrages. And when you don't get that right, you end up getting everything wrong. Look, this was a huge problem. Huge, huge, huge problem with like the woke left with like the, the insane progressives of the last few years where they would just have no ability to have like a hierarchy of outrages. So this is why like Black Lives Matter in the middle of Black Lives Matter would just start getting obsessed with like Aunt Jemima being removed from the supermarket. And you're like, wait, what? Like even, like, forget. Listen, I obviously reject a lot of the progressive worldview. But like, even by your own stated worldview, like, you're saying there are like killer cops who are unaccountable to the citizen and Ray, how are you even talking about Aunt Jemima right now? Like, this is just too ridiculous. It's like, where. And. But you see, with guys like Ben Shapiro. Look, like, all I'm saying is find me the video. Please send it to me. I will play it on the show and I will apologize. Find me the video where Ben Shapiro is this angry about lockdowns. Find me the video where he's this angry about an aggressive military action that ended up being a disaster, just killed a bunch of innocent people and nothing productive came out of it. Find me that example. Find me an example where he's this outraged over vaccine mandates or he's that whatever it is, he's this outraged about anything that actually matters, that really destroyed people's lives. No, no, no. What he's outraged about is negotiating. And what he's worried about is that the negotiations might lead to a place where America realizes, oh, we don't, we don't need to be involved in a war here. There's simply no reason for us to need that. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is American Financing. Look, we all know we're living in a high price environment and have been for many years. For many people. The answer to this is to reach for your credit cards. And this is why credit card debt has been at all time highs. Of course, the problem with credit card debt is that you're typically paying a very high interest rate. This is where American Financing comes in. They can help homeowners pay off high interest interest debt by using their home's equity. American Financing is a family owned mortgage lender that's been around for 25 years and they're licensed in all 50 states. 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Now, if you want to argue, which I'm sure is partially the case, too, is that, look, Ben Shapiro is just so angry about October 7th that he wants payback for the people who did that. And that's the number one priority here, you know. And so if he sees you being friendly with Qatar, who's friendly with Hamas, or if he sees you being friendly with Iran, who's friendly with Hamas, then that's, that's going to infuriate him. Like, okay, that's fine. I've never liked telling anyone they can't have their identity. I understand that. But I think you should be honest about that. That, and if you're doing that, then, then you're not speaking for American conservatives, you're speaking for Israelis. And that's okay. You can do that. You know, like, if you really want Benjamin Netanyahu to be your president, you could go to Israel and have that tomorrow. I'm sure Ben Shapiro owns property there, and I'm sure he'd be welcomed with open arms. But I do think you should be honest about that. That, because it doesn't seem to me that revenge for people killed in a foreign country in a very long, ongoing conflict should be the number one motivators for Americans. I think the number one motivator for Americans should be what's in the best interest of the United States of America. That seems fairly reasonable to me. Okay, we're gonna wrap up there. Thank you guys very much, as always, for listening we will. We will get the members only episode to you. But I'm not sure what time me and Rob are getting into Appleton, so we' figure that out. But we'll record an episode for you guys out there. Catch you next time. Peace.