Bridge and Power Plant Day

Summary

Part Of The Problem: "Bridge and Power Plant Day"

Host: Dave Smith (with Robbie "the Fire" Bernstein)
Date: April 8, 2026
Theme: A high-stakes, deeply critical analysis of Donald Trump’s threats toward Iran, including plans for mass destruction targeting civilian infrastructure, the morality and strategic insanity of such moves, and a major fissure on the American right as Tucker Carlson breaks publicly with Trump over these policies. The episode draws together current events, libertarian foreign policy, and the role of media voices in shaping or resisting war.

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Episode Overview

Dave Smith and co-host Robbie Bernstein react in real time to the unprecedented escalation in U.S.-Iran tensions, in which Donald Trump threatens via social media—and on Easter morning no less—to destroy Iran’s civilian infrastructure in a move branded "Bridge and Power Plant Day." The episode's arc builds around the ethical catastrophe of targeting civilians, the strategic vacuum behind the plan, and a seismic on-air denouncement by Tucker Carlson, historically a key Trump ally, who now condemns Trump in powerful, moral, and Christian terms. The podcast dissects these events, highlights media influence, and critiques the logic and motives of regime change proponents.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump's Ultimatum and Escalation

Timestamps: 00:38–07:00

• Main Event: Trump posts an Easter morning statement threatening the destruction of Iran’s civilian infrastructure if his demands are unmet by 8pm, promising "a whole civilization will die tonight." ([03:00])
• Context: Dave is stunned by Trump’s escalation and notes, "He is going so hardcore on like, I am not bluffing. ... Donald Trump doesn’t end up doing this and maybe hits a few targets, but nothing like what he’s talking about." ([04:18])
• Moral and Strategic Questions: Robbie raises the two big concerns—(a) targeting civilian infrastructure is a moral crime, (b) it has no clear, logical strategic benefit and will likely further regional chaos. ([04:42])
• Lack of Strategy: Dave: “What would be the benefit of us sending Iran back to the Stone Age as he claims? ... It’s just like the ravings of a madman.” ([05:51])

2. The War Logic Trap

Timestamps: 07:00–08:30

• Escalation Logic: Robbie explains that such a strike commits the U.S. to a course of long war and ground invasion, since Iran (and its nuclear material) would remain a threat, thus trapping the U.S. in inevitable escalation. ([07:00])
• Dave echoes this: “It seems too crazy that he would do that and then just stop ... you have to do something to justify such an inhumane, gigantic thing.” ([07:37])

3. Media Dynamics and Tucker Carlson’s Role

Timestamps: 12:50–29:00

• Unique Media Turning Point: Dave describes Carlson’s public break as “the number one right wing show in the country just turned on the Republican president,” calling it unprecedented. ([13:17])
• Media Independence: Robbie remarks on the era’s shifting media landscape, asserting that only non-network personalities like Carlson can take such stances. ([14:54])
• On Tucker’s Calculus: Dave shares his private conversations with Carlson about the difficulty of directly opposing Trump while maintaining enough access to possibly influence him for restraint. He praises Carlson’s eventual decision to publicly cross the line. ([13:55-15:00])

Quote:
“This is really something very unique in modern American history. ... The equivalent would be like Bill O’Reilly turning on George W. Bush in the middle of his presidential term.”
—Dave Smith ([13:17])

4. Condemning War Crimes — Notable Tucker Carlson Monologue

Timestamps: 16:14–19:30 (Clip Playback)

• Carlson Reads the Trump Threat:

“And so the morning of Easter is a uniquely joyful and peaceful moment. ... Open the fucking strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in hell. Just watch. ... It is vile on every level.”
—Tucker Carlson ([16:14])

• Carlson’s Direct Condemnation: Emphasizes the targeting of bridges and power plants as intentional war crimes that will lead to mass death:

“You cause chaos and death, mass suffering and death when you do that. And we have done that, we have intentionally bombed civilian infrastructure in Iran. It’s totally unacceptable ... under moral law, God’s law.”
—Tucker Carlson ([18:55])

• Dave’s Reaction:

“There was no one else in the country, I think, who could have done that as effectively as you just did. Like, it just meant more from you.”
—Dave Smith ([19:30])

5. Religion, Morality & Presidential Power

Timestamps: 22:26–32:29

• Carlson's Critique of Trump’s "Christianity":

“I mean, Rob, he didn’t call Donald Trump the Antichrist, but it certainly ... he’s calling him ... a believer who rejects Christianity.”
—Dave Smith ([27:22])

• Hand on the Bible Moment: Carlson points out Trump declined to place his hand on the Bible at inauguration, suggesting a willful rejection of Christian teaching and humility, instead embracing power. ([24:29])
• Danger of Flattery: Trump’s spiritual advisor is played likening him to Jesus, a moment both hosts find deeply creepy and dangerous for its effect on Trump’s psyche.

Quote:
“You start telling him that, oh no, this is all part of God’s plan, is that you will rule and everything you touch is great ... I feel like that almost could convince Donald Trump.”
—Dave Smith ([32:00])

6. Nuclear Threats and the “No Red Line” Era

Timestamps: 37:44–45:59

• Potential for Catastrophe: Dave and Robbie discuss that even if Trump doesn’t go as far as using nuclear weapons, just the rhetoric is unprecedented and deeply alarming, more so than any president in memory, even during WW2.
• Military Loyalty: Highlight that Carlson’s call to military personnel to resist such illegal orders is significant, given his audience.

7. Regime Change Logic and the Absurdity of Plans

Timestamps: 46:48–57:36

• Regime Change Advocates Put on the Spot: Dave plays clips from the podcast Trigonometry, where an Iranian exile and pro-regime change advocate bumbles through justifications, including the fantasy that 150,000 IRGC members would defect to the Shah. Dave exposes their lack of practical thought.

Quote:
“This is where—what they’re up to now still. ... How are you going to reinstall the Shah in Iran? Well, his people say, okay. You know, how are you going to enact regime change here? I don’t know, maybe a lot of different things at once. We have, we have targeted airstrikes. Why can’t we target the weapons?”
—Dave Smith ([50:00])

• The Obligation of Advocates: Dave slams pro-war voices for not doing basic due diligence:

“If you’re advocating we launch wars of aggression, there is such a higher onus on you to like really make sure you have it right ... And you haven’t even thought this through.”
—Dave Smith ([53:09])

8. Personal Reflection and Moral Judgments

Timestamps: 57:36–59:40

• Disillusionment with Expatriate War Hawks: Dave shares he once had sympathy for Iranian exiles passionate for their homeland’s freedom, but seeing them endorse "total war" on their population, his sympathy has turned to disgust.

Quote:
“They’ve somehow gone from being like, the ones I had the softest spot to. To being the ones I’m like the most disgusted by. ... How can you sit by and support this happening to your own people? My God.”
—Dave Smith ([59:23])

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• “He is going so hardcore on like, I am not bluffing. ... This is going to be total destruction of the civilization.” —Dave Smith ([03:30])
• “There’s absolutely no type of strategic benefit even tied into this. It’s just like the ravings of a madman.” —Dave Smith ([05:51])
• “This would be a pretty epic fold if he was just bluffing ... Which leads me to believe some course of action is going to be taken.” —Robbie Bernstein ([04:42])
• “This is really something very unique in modern American history ... the number one right wing show in America telling ... their audience ... you essentially have a religious obligation to oppose this man.” —Dave Smith ([27:22])
• “It is vile on every level. ... Blow up their bridges. ... You cause chaos and death, mass suffering and death when you do that.” —Tucker Carlson ([16:45]-[18:55])
• “This is the first time ever in a war, you got two countries that are just tweeting shit talk at each other.” —Robbie Bernstein ([45:59])
• “You can fail at your backup plan too, so you might as well fail at what you really want.” —Dave Smith, paraphrasing Jim Carrey ([38:06])

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Memorable and Surreal Podcast Moments

• Tucker Carlson’s Easter condemnation, contrasting Trump’s war brinkmanship with the Christian message of Easter ([16:14–19:30])
• Spiritual advisor likening Trump to Christ—played for dark humor and genuine alarm ([30:02])
• Trigonometry debate clip: Dave’s adversary claims 150,000 IRGC will turn monarchist on the word of the Shah’s son ([49:43])
• Discussion of governmental/military resistance to illegal orders, spurred by Carlson’s call to conscience ([37:44])
• **Speculation on how social media would have transformed WWII leaders’ communications, for comic relief amidst tension ([46:19])

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Episode Conclusion

As U.S. and Iran stand on the brink, "Bridge and Power Plant Day" captures libertarian alarm at the unchecked, callous threat to wipe out a modern nation’s basic infrastructure, the collapse of right-wing media unity, and exposes the shallow, reckless advocacy for war by both exiles and mainstream hawks. Dave and Robbie underscore the necessity of moral courage in media and government—and the real, present danger of modern war fever.

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For Libertarians, antiwar listeners, or anyone trying to understand the high drama and humanity-defining politics of this moment, this episode is essential and chilling.

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Guidance:

If you missed this episode, focus on the 13:00–30:00 mark for the historic Tucker Carlson commentary, and 45:00–56:00 for the evisceration of regime change logic.

Transcript

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[B]

What's up, everybody?

[C]

What's up?

[B]

Welcome to a brand new episode of part of the problem. I am Dave Smith. He is Robbie the Fire Bernstein. How are you doing today, Rob?

[D]

I am well. How are you, Mr. Smith?

[B]

I'm okay. I must admit, I'm kind of blown away by Donald Trump's tweet this morning. And I don't know, it's one of those episodes where, you know, we're recording it today and then we're going to see what happens overnight and we're going to see what we wake up to in the morning. And so anyway, we can get into all of that. There are any points of order of business before we start. We're going to be in here. Tell Stanford, Connecticut, right, Rob?

[D]

Hometown show. This Saturday night we got two shows at the New York Comedy Club in Stanford, Connecticut. Been a couple years since we've done that and we don't do a lot of Connecticut or New York shows. So this is your best opportunity probably to come see us in the area. It's a great show. The following week we're going to be out in Chicago at Zany's. We're doing both the downtown room and the Rosemont room, which is always a great weekend. And then looking forward, I know we got O OKC and other stuff. You go to comic Dave Smith.com for all that and you can come check out the run your mouth podcast. We got a brand new studio and we're cranking out content. Come check it out.

[B]

Yes, we will be. We'll be on the road. Also, I wanted to let everyone know because a lot of people were speculating. But it did, Adam did back out of the debate. I did it against Ben Ferguson on Pierce Morgan earlier. That should be out tomorrow, I believe. So, yeah, that's the, the latest on that and we'll on from this, from this saga, but that's fine. I was fine with it ending that way or whatever. So. Okay, there's a couple things that just got to talk about here, which is that so essentially tonight at 8pm Is Donald Trump's deadline. He, he kind of, we were talking about this on yesterday's show, right? The question of like is he actually going to go through with all of this, will he walk away from this? Last night, Tucker Carlson, I mean, in what I really think was like a heroic moment, I think in a way that only Tucker Carlson could do. Tucker Carlson really criticized Donald Trump in the most, I don't know how to say it, in the most intense fashion. And really, you know, if they're, he, he, you know, really on the eve of whatever is coming here, Tucker Carlson made sure to really let you know how he feels about it and how he feels about Donald Trump doing it. Unrelated or maybe related or whatever. But this morning, Donald Trump posted on Truth Social the following. A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don't want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we have complete and total regime change where different, smarter and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionary, one revolutionarily wonderful can happen. Who knows? We will find out tonight. One of the most important moments in the long and complex history of the world. 47 years of extortion, corruption and death will finally end. God bless the great people of Iran whose civilization is about to destroy. I don't know, Rob, but look, I am really hoping, as I'm sure you are and everyone listening is that you know by the time you're listening to this or tomorrow when we wake up, that he has not followed through on this destroying civilization threat. But man, he is going so hardcore on like, I am not bluffing. You better not call my bluff on this. And it is pretty clear right now there is not going to be a deal announced between now and 8pm tonight. And I don't know, I want to believe probably Donald Trump doesn't end up doing this and maybe hits a few targets, but nothing like what he's talking about. But I don't know, Rob, it's crazy to me that he's doubling down on like, no, no, no, this is going to be total destruction of the civilization.

[D]

I listen, I don't want to predict what Donald Trump's actually going to do because it's nearly impossible and I don't even think Trump fully knows. But I mean, this would be a pretty epic fold if he was just bluffing. Yeah. Which leads me to believe that some course of action is going to be taken. Maybe it's like you said in the last episode, he just blows up some things and go, the big one hasn't come yet, but he's certainly saying it's going to be a four hour window where he's taken out everything at once. And I see the two big problems is, one, it's just the moral issue here of are we really just going after civilian infrastructure and completely destroying their civilian infrastructure? And two is how do we just walk away after that if they still have military capability and then they escalate and as they've threatened to do, start taking out permanently more oil infrastructure in neighboring countries. So it doesn't even sound to me like this is the end of the situation. And in the press conference Donald Trump gave last night, he even admitted that this will not necessarily resolve the Hormuz problem because you just need a couple terrorists with rocket launchers to keep that thing closed.

[B]

Yep. So we're, we're doing all of this, or whatever it, to whatever extent Donald Trump actually means to follow through on this, we're doing all of this. And then this is for, you know, what benefit exactly? Like, like what would be the benefit of us sending around back to the Stone Age as he claims? And I, I don't know, just because we'll hit him real hard, you know, like, I'm just saying, like, it's not even like the logic of dropping bunker busters on Fordo, like, why would we take out all the bridges and all the electricity, I don't know, send them back to the Stone Age? Are you telling me, does that open the Strait of Hormuz to send him back to the Stone Age? No. Does that extract the enriched uranium? No. Does that, like, what is the goal? Like, it's not even like there's a clear. There's absolutely no type of like, strategic benefit even tied into this. It's just like the ravings of a madman. And I don't know, that seems to be what it is. It was pretty funny.

[D]

So it almost seems like if you go through with this and they, they do a military strike back and they retain the enriched uranium, it sounds to me like you're then pot committed to go in and get that enriched uranium so that this actually now irrational regime just looking for vengeance doesn't make that into a bomb and then use it. And then it just sounds like you're still at the same point of needing a ground invasion and what's gonna be a long term war. I can't imagine that if Donald Trump goes through with this four hour death and destruction strike window and Iran is still retaliating afterwards, that we can possibly just be calling it a day.

[B]

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So I was debating Ben Ferguson as I mentioned on Piers Morgan show today, and it was kind of like it is, I don't know where it's just like the political gods or whatever, like just give, it's always the situation with me. Like I always say, it's not that I'm that good at this, it's just that I have such a strong hand to play. But so if you could think, I just thought this was like kind of funny but you know, in a really dark, disturbing way. But there's. So if you remember, Rob, right, I was on the panel with Ben when I made the comment about America being the biggest terrorist organization in the world. And this was the thing that really lit the Internet on fire. And Ben Shapiro made a response video about it and all of that. And so like that was what our original debate was about, was me making this claim. And then now we go in there to debate it. And this morning, as we're getting ready to record this. The Commander in chief is saying out loud that he will destroy an entire civilization, never to be, you know, recovered. And you're like, geez, man, talk about just giving me a winning hand for this argument, which is like, I wish they wouldn't, I wish they, I wish they wouldn't keep proving my point. But yeah, I mean, look, there's, there's something, I don't know. It's, it's, Donald Trump has gotten, has gone so far with this that if I, you know, again, like, if I had said, you know, like the way the goalposts have moved, right? If at the end of the 12 Day War, when all of the hawks were bragging about how the program had been totally obliterated, 100% annihilated, as Donald Trump said, if I had said to one of those guys, if I had said, hey, well, if we're right back in a war in seven months over the Iranian nuclear threat, then you would have to concede that you were wrong about this war, right? They all would have said, oh, yeah, of course it's been obliterated. They've been set back decades anyway. Here we are right back in another war where they're still invoking that. You go, if anyone, while they were saying, hey, we got to liberate the people of Iran, if I had said to them, like, okay, but let's just say hypothetically that the Commander in chief says in order to liberate them, we have to destroy their civilization, destroy their electrical grid, bomb every bridge in the country, and send the civilian population back to the Stone Age. Would you oppose that? They all would have been like, well, yes, of course we oppose that. But then as soon as Donald Trump says it, now they got to pretend to defend it. Now they just got to get on board and there's this, you know, just this horrible thing. And then I guess maybe getting to Tucker Carlson, because I want to play some of the clips from his, like, really incredible show last night. You know, there was this thing me, so I, I was just out with Tucker. As I told you guys, me and him really spent like the whole day talking when we were out there. And, and obviously we had talked about all of this stuff and, you know, I was always kind of, you know, I, I, I basically said to Tucker at one point while we were at breakfast that I was just like, look, man, like, I don't envy the position you're in. I'm in a much easier position where I can just say whatever I got I want to say, you know, I can just tell the truth and be as pissed off as I want to be. You are. Now, I think I might have said this on the podcast, too. I can't remember what was what, but I was like, you're now in the situation. Like, essentially during the 12 Day War, there were two people who had Donald Trump's ear who were arguing we shouldn't go to war with Iran. Okay? One of them's dead now. Now Tucker's the only one left. Tucker was the only person in the president's ear this time around, telling him not to start this war, that maybe Joe Kent or Tulsi Gabbard were behind the scenes, but certainly either they didn't really have his ear or they weren't going hard enough at him. But. And also, it's Donald Trump. So, you know, if you insult him, that's it. You're dead to him, you know, and so I don't know, you know, there were people out there who are like, oh, Tucker's, you know, Tucker's being a coward because he's criticizing the policy, but he's not personally attacking Donald Trump. And I always kind of felt like, hey, guys, he's in a different situation than you're in. And it's quite possible that the best thing Tucker could do right now is maintain Donald Trump's ear a little bit and not burn that bridge. You know, I basically said to Tucker when we were hanging out, I was like, look, man, I don't envy the situation you're in, but I wouldn't even presume to tell you what the best way to play that is. I really don't know. And, you know, he kind of expressed to me that he's also struggled with that and that he doesn't exactly know. And so it was a. It was an interesting moment last night watching him, you know, really make the decision that this was just a bridge too far for him and he couldn't. He couldn't not make it very clear where he stood. And before we even get into some of these clips, I would just kind of emphasize that this is really something very unique in modern American history. Like, I've never seen anything like this again. The, the equivalent would be like Bill O'Reilly turning on George W. Bush in the middle of his. His presidential term. You know, Rachel Maddow turning on Barack Obama, who has never seen a dynamic where the number one right wing show in the country just turned on the Republican president. And for very good reason, but just that dynamic alone is very Very unique.

[D]

Well, I guess typically speaking, the number one person would be on a network and so they would be kind of obliged to be pitching a certain narrative or not having a job. So the reason why we actually have an honest person is because this is the first era that you could just do your own show and get it to a large audience, which is what's also, you know, luckily ruining the regime's ability to lie to us, but also has created a new world where they just don't care about public opinion.

[B]

Well, that. Well, look, I mean, I would just. Listen, I agree with you. The only one thing there I would take a little bit of issue with is that they do care. You know, like they're upset that they're losing this fight. And you do, you do see that they're like, like even in sending Dan Bongino back out or in Donald Trump promoting Mark Levin and promoting Douglas Murray, they are trying, they'd rather it not be this way. You know what I mean? Or even Donald Trump, which we'll play in a second, trying to discredit Tucker now. You know, it's like they, they do care about it. Not enough that they'll stop doing what they're doing. They would prefer that, you know, people like Tucker didn't have the voice that they have here. Let's go to this clip, the first one. Tucker Carlson condemns Trump's vile Easter morning threat. Let's play this clip.

[C]

And so the morning of Easter is a uniquely joyful and peaceful moment. And yet that peace yesterday was shattered. That's not an overstatement. It was shattered for many observant Christians by a statement that the President of the United States put out at 8:03am Eastern Time on Easter morning that said this. And we're going to read it in its entirety. Not an outrage or self righteousness, but honestly, in horror. Quote, Tuesday will be power plant day and bridge day all wrapped up in one in Iran. There will be nothing like it. Three exclamation points. Open the fucking straight, you crazy bastards, or you'll be living in hell. Just watch. All caps. Praise be to Allah. President Donald J. Trump. Now, a lot of people reading that imagined, of course, this can't be real. Did the President, United States really just write that? And it is real. It is maybe the most real thing this president has ever done and also the most revealing on every level. It is vile on every level. It begins with a promise to use the US Military, our military, to destroy civilian infrastructure in another country, which is to say, to commit A war crime, a moral crime against the people of the country, whose welfare, by the way, was one of the reasons we supposedly went into this war in the first place. They're being killed by their government. We have to rescue them. And now here's our president not even a month and a half into the conflict, which we are not winning, by the way, because the straits for Hormuz are not open. There's one way to keep track. That's the measurement saying that we're going to use our military to kill the civilians of this country who didn't choose war. They got nothing to do with it. They're like civilians everywhere. Blow up their bridges. Bridges on military bases? No, no, no. Just bridges. Bridges that people cross every day to go to school and work and to worship and, yes, church. Because there are over a million Christians in Iran. This is their Easter, too. And power plants. Not the power plants attached to missile factories, okay. But civilian power plants in a country of almost 100 million people. What happens when a modern country and a country that has a nuclear program, as a modern country, sorry, Iran is a modern country. What happens when it loses power? Well, people die. Babies connected to incubators die, people in hospitals die. And those are the first level effects. And then people begin to starve. And then you have refugee crises. People leave the cities looking for food. And, yes, they move into other countries in the region, in Europe, in the United States, you cause chaos and death, mass suffering and death when you do that. And we have done that, we have intentionally bombed civilian infrastructure in Iran. It's totally unacceptable. None of the phony laws of some international body, but under moral law, God's law.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, listen, man, I sent Tucker a long text last night after I watched the show, and, you know, I thanked him for this and told him how much I admired him for doing it. And I also told him that I was like, dude, there was no one else in the country, I think, who could have done that as effectively as you just did. Like, it just meant more from you. And, you know, Rob, we're just too Jewy at the end of the day to really have, like, the correct, you know, like, Christian kind of message and to really be able to speak to it with some authority.

[E]

But.

[B]

But look, man, there's just no question here, right? Like, it was such a slap in the face to Christianity itself to, like, on Easter morning, promise to bring hell to another nation and then mockingly talking about, you know, Allah Akbar or Praise Allah, you know, same thing. Anyway, I mean, there you Go, Tucker Carlson. Just eviscerating the president, who he campaigned for, who he gave the keynote speech at the Republican National Convention for. I mean, man, it's one thing to destroy your coalition, but when you got the guy, the biggest right wing, you know, newsman in the country, eviscerating you like this, what can I say? You've already destroyed your presidency. And, you know, Donald Trump really has nothing to say back because everyone knows Tucker's right. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Fast Growing Trees. I love this company. Whether you're in a house or an apartment, whether you have a green thumb or you desperately need help, you need to know about Fast Growing Trees. They're America's largest and most trusted online nursery with thousands of trees and plants to choose from and experts available every day to help you plan, design, or just learn how to care for them. Why spend your whole weekend hauling plants around making a mess when you can schedule them the same day delivered to your door on your schedule? Just click and order and grow. They make it that easy. Plus, they're alive and thrive guarantee promises your plants arrive happy and healthy. I just ordered a bunch of plants from these guys. I love this stuff. It's so much easier than going driving to the nurseries and lugging stuff back, which I've done my fair share of. But whatever you're looking for, Fast Growing Trees can help you find options that actually work for your climate, your space, and your lifestyle. Right now, they have great deals on spring planting essentials with up to half off on select plants. And if you use my promo code problem at checkout, you'll get 20% off your first purchase. That's an additional 20% off at fast growing trees.com you use the promo code problem at checkout. Now is the perfect time to plant. Let's grow together. Fast growing trees.com promo code problem. Offer is valid for a limited time only. Terms and conditions may apply. All right, let's get back into the show.

[D]

Yeah, I think Tucker might have even played this during the opening monologue. But, Natalie, if you want to pull it up, there was a deleted video from the White House of, I guess an event that took place with his pastor, his private pastor before, and I guess the White House put it up and took it down. But one of the moments that's really striking to me is just how good Donald Trump is at finding the right people to kiss his ass. And while I'm not a Christian, I can't speak for Christianity. But I do like when the religious messages for nonviolence and I thought particularly the end of Tucker Carlson's pitch about how the message of Christianity was basically sending out the Gospels to go spread the message, even if that meant death, which is what it meant. But that's how you kind of keep on. It's not about going out. It wasn't about going out and conquering. And so that what Donald Trump is doing right now, and they're pretending it's some sort of a religious message, but it's going out and purveying violence on people. That's certainly not the message of Christianity. I haven't studied Christianity. But as a sideline observer, I think that message relates a lot more with me. And I think it was pretty damning, you know, damning statements against Donald Trump. But when you parallel that against the group of Christians he's hanging out with that are putting hands on him and saying that he's a messenger like Jesus, it's quite different to the message that Donald Trump is actually receiving. And I do think the clip's worth playing, if you got it, Natalie, here.

[B]

I think we have here. Let's go to the. I believe it might be in this next clip that we have here. But this is. Let's play this one and then you can look for the, that, that clip as well, Natalie. But yeah, the clip was, it's like Donald Trump's religious spiritual advisor or whatever, basically saying that he's Jesus. Very, very creepy stuff. And you could see how that would really appeal to someone like Donald Trump. But let's, let's go to this clip. Tucker Carlson says Donald Trump betrayed Christians and rejects the Bible. Because this is really, I mean, th, this is 10 out of 10 the most powerful criticism you can give someone.

[C]

Maybe some did, but certainly the leaders of the American Christian churches, by and large said absolutely nothing. And maybe because they said nothing, this accelerated. These are the same people sort of didn't notice somehow that on Inauguration Day, the president did not take his oath of office with his hand on the Bible. His wife stood next to him holding it. I was about 15ft away and saw it. But he did not put his hand in the Bible. And that should have been maybe a clue that we need to pause and think about. What is this? Why wouldn't you put your hand in the Bible? If you don't believe in the Bible, you think it's just a book, there's no cost to you to putting your hand on it. Just kind of following the Protocol going along with the tradition. All presidents do it. Why aren't you doing it? And you're not doing it intentionally. You're choosing not to put your hand on the Bible when you take that oath. That suggests not that you don't believe it's real. Because if you didn't believe it was real, why would you care? You'd put on the costume and take it off. Doesn't matter. That suggests you know it is real and you're rejecting it intentionally. You know what you're doing and you're doing it anyway. But nobody asked questions about that either. Seemed kind of inappropriate, given the celebration then in progress, to ask, why wouldn't you put your hand in the Bible when you take the oath of office to lead our nation? But pretty much nobody did. I didn't. I'll admit that I saw it and didn't say one word. Bothered me ever since. But right around January 4, it became clear that maybe he didn't put his hand on the Bible because he affirmatively rejects what's inside that book. And what's inside that book are limits on human behavior. Because if there's one theme that spans all 66 books in the Christian Bible, it's that you are not God. And you cannot assume his powers because you don't have them. You may convince yourself you have them, you may want them, you may have been promised them, but in the end, they're not yours and you'll never have them. And you can only destroy yourself and the people around you by pretending that you do. That is the consistent message that spans from Genesis to Revelation. And people who ignore that law are punished, just like people who ignore gravity or freezing temperatures are punished. Because these are laws that were not created by people. They supersede people. But on January 4, when the President United States told us he was stealing, that our country was stealing something that didn't belong to us, people should have piped up and said something, but they didn't. And that got us all the way to yesterday, which was Easter Sunday.

[B]

So of course we played these in, you know, opposite order. Then he goes into the Easter Sunday tweet. But to just give you, you know, a taste there of how severe. I mean, this is the strongest possible language. Like, he is. I mean, Rob, he didn't call Donald Trump the Antichrist, but it certainly called him like not even a non believer. He's calling him a believer who rejects Christianity. This is, I mean, again, this is, this is like, this is the number one right wing show in America telling Their audience, who are, who followed Tucker Carlson from Fox News over to the Internet because they love him and respect him so much. And he's telling his listeners that, like, you essentially have a religious obligation to oppose this man. It's the strongest possible language and it is the most compelling possible point for Tucker to like, to hit his audience with that, like, yo, you as a Christian cannot support this. I gotta say, fully. Bishop, I never heard of that, that he didn't swear in on the Bible. And I think guys like me and you are just, I don't know, like, we're not Christians. And so it's just kind of. That's just not even the type of thing that would even register, you know what I mean? With us. I didn't, I didn't know that. But it's pretty interesting that Tucker brought that up. And I do love that he pointed to Venezuela as being like, hey, that's kind of where it start. Like, once you could accept that, then you're just like, you're in an evil territory now, where of course it's going to lead to more evil shit. I think he's spot on about that. Any thoughts?

[D]

Yeah, I think when you're in the top spot, you can kind of dictate the pace or what the morality for the world should look like. And if we're taking that opportunity to go, might is right. We're actively making the worst a the world a worse place and a less safer place for everybody. So all the people that cheered on, hey, they got oil and we're taking their oil. I don't think that's the imperial country we want to live in. And I don't think that's going to make us safer a thousand years in the future.

[B]

Yeah, it's. Yeah, that's right. That's exactly right. Here. Natalie, you said you found that Trump's spiritual advisor.

[C]

Yeah, there's two.

[D]

There's one where she's referring to him as Jesus and then there's another one where they all place hands on him in prayer. I'm not sure which clip this is.

[B]

This is the, this is the Jesus one here, let's play this. This was the, the crazier one to me. And Tucker did play this clip on his show.

[E]

Mr. President, no one has paid the price like you have paid the price. It almost cost you your life. You were betrayed and arrested and falsely accused. It's a familiar pattern that our Lord and Savior showed us. But it didn't end there for him, and it didn't end there for You, God always had a plan. On the third day, he rose. He defeated evil, he conquered death, hell in the grave. And because he rose, we all know that we can rise. And sir, because of his resurrection, you rose up because he was victorious. You were victorious. And I believe that the Lord said to tell you this. Because of his victory, you will be victorious in all you put your hand to.

[B]

I mean, this is, you know, as, as Tucker pointed out, this is so freaking creepy that you, you can't believe that, like all types of Christians across this country wouldn't have been like, appalled at seeing this. Now look, I'll, I'll be the first to admit, like, maybe it is that, like, maybe me and you have a little bit of a blind spot to some of this stuff because that's not our world or whatever. But you would think that, like, you know, that would be profoundly offensive. But then, you know, just leaving that aside, it's also an interesting, you know, it's again, we're always kind of speculating when we talk about Donald Trump's state of mind. A very hard thing to really get into. But you do wonder, like, you know, how much of this actually rubbed off on him. Because knowing Donald Trump, it's not that I think Donald Trump was ever a very religious person, but I do feel like Donald Trump is the type of person who could really be wooed by that type of talk. You know what I mean? Like, you start telling him that, like, oh, no, this is actually, this is all part of God's plan, is that you will be rule and everything you touch is great. And that like, I feel like that almost could convince Donald Trump. Like, I got to look back into this religion thing, you know what I mean? Like, and so you wonder like, anyway, I guess it's just like, what a, what a dangerous and destructive thing to tell somebody, you know, that you've been chosen by God and everything you touch will turn to gold.

[D]

Especially someone with the sensibilities and demeanor of a large seven year old child. But, you know, for all of us wondering where Donald Trump gets his absolute confidence from, you know, they do like these Internet videos in my morning routine. It's like this guy gets on a call with his pastor, this lady, you know, and goes, you know, you're really Jesus. Then he goes into the press, the Pentagon briefing, and apparently they show him two minutes of clips of what's going well, and then he gets on another call with someone who tells him, you're doing great. And then he just shares his worldview, which he's It's a little bit like, I love the movie Memento. Have you ever seen the movie Memento?

[B]

Yes. Yes.

[D]

I love the movie Memento. And my takeaway from that movie was that sometimes your higher consciousness kind of sets up games or kind of the life that you actually really want to live. And so this guy wants to always be solving a murder mystery, so he kind of sets it up for himself in the moments that he's conscious so that five minutes later, he forgets, and now he's got a game to basically go play. And, you know, Donald Trump's higher consciousness or whatever, like, his ultimate desire is to be, you know, highly praised and think that he's the greatest thing that ever happened on God's planet. And so he sets himself up with these characters around him that just serve him nothing but constant praise so he can live in this reality that he's actually the greatest thing that ever happened to mankind. And sadly, we're on the sidelines, and this is all affecting our reality.

[B]

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[D]

And arguments for me on that one.

[B]

Yeah, well, it's it's this. You know, there was a Jim Carrey who's a little bit goofy at times, but he had this one speech. He was, like, giving, like, a. What do they call it? The graduation speeches. And he was. He was, like, saying his advice.

[C]

He.

[B]

He tells the story of, like, his dad, who he said was, like, a really talented, like, artistic guy, but he just went and got a job, you know, because whatever. He had kids and a wife and stuff, and. And then, like, he got downsized from the company and ended up losing his job anyway. And then he was like. The moral of the story was, like, you. You can fail at your backup plan, too, so you might as well fail at, like, what you really want. You know, there's, like, kind of this, you know, and I don't know, there's something beautiful about that. Not saying it's always the correct answer in every situation, but there's something about someone like, you know, like Tulsi Gabbard, who you'll like. You'll be like, well, hey, I have this position of power. I don't want to give up this position of power, so I'll compromise in order to keep this position of power. And then, I don't know if you read the reports this week, but Trump's considering firing her now, so it's like, you could still lose that. You know what I'm saying? Like, you might as well. At least if you do the honorable, you know, righteous thing, then at least they can't take that away from you. You know, at least you're like, hey, I told the truth, but as soon as you start lying in order to protect your own position, you can still lose your own position. And now you're just a liar who lost their position, you know, now you've just burned down all your credibility. And also, like. Like, you know, I mean, I don't know, but like, the Director of National Intelligence resigning in disgust and then telling the American people that there was absolutely no imminent threat here. I mean, that might move the needle enough to stop this thing from being worse than it already is. Like, that might be the difference. That'd be a pretty big deal. Joe Kent's a big deal, but there's a big difference between the Director of Counterterrorism and the Director of National Intelligence. You know, the person at the absolute top of the intelligence ladder, or supposedly, I guess, really it's Israeli. Israeli intelligence is one. One step above that. But. But anyway, yeah, it's. She really should have resigned a long time ago, and I think I Think Tucker did the right thing last night and did it in a way that kind of like only he could. And you know, look, man, I really do not, I, I try my best and in fact, you know, I don't me and you have pointed out before, Rob, but even when, when people were, you know, like, if you think back to like the 12 Day War and when people would be trying to dunk on us and they would use the montage of all the people, but whenever it was me in there, I would always be hedging my bets. Like, I wouldn't be saying like, this is going to be a disaster. I'd be going like this, this carries the risk of catastrophe and blah, blah, you know, like, I try not to get too, because, you know, I don't want, I don't like, I don't like making wild predictions that, you know, end up, you end up being wrong too much when you do that. And so like, I'm not saying I think that Donald Trump is going to use nuclear weapons. I don't think that. But Tucker did get into a bunch of, of that stuff and like, he's like, hey, he said he promoted Mark Levin's show. And if you read between the lines, not too carefully, Mark Levin's kind of hinting at using nuclear weapons. And when Donald Trump starts talking like a, you know, we, we are going to destroy a civilization never to be recovered again, it does kind of start hinting at something like, whoa, we, we could be going like non conventional here or, or if not nuclear weapons, you know, just like a level of death and destruction like we haven't seen in the global war on terrorism that we haven't seen since maybe World War II or whatever. And there was a point in the show where Tucker actually urged people not to follow orders if that is really the path we're going down. And I also thought that was pretty powerful. It's like there's a lot of hardcore people in the military who really love Tucker Carlson and that's kind of important that they heard that. And I, I would just say too that, you know, to a lot of people, because I, and don't get me wrong, like, it's just people, there's different games that all of us are playing and like, like Tucker Carlson's in a very different situation than even someone like me and you, Rob. Maybe to the outsider it might look like, well, you know, you guys have a big show, he's got a kind of bigger show, but like he's in a different league and playing a Different game. And it does for sure take real courage to do what Tucker just did last night. Like, he's opening himself up for legit retribution from this administration, who is very petty and very authoritarian in nature. And, you know, there's already been all types of evidence of the NSA spying on, on Tucker Carlson. He claimed that he had found that the CIA was spying on him and trying to build a case, referring it to the Justice Department about who he was contacting in Iran or what, trying to do journalism before the war broke out. And I mean, I, look, I'm not saying they will, but it's not beyond the realm of possibility that they could be looking at coming after Donald Trump in a re. Excuse me, coming after Tucker Carlson in a real way. I don't know. I admire the courage of him to take on the administration like that because when you get to that high of a level, people do want to make an example out of you if you do some like this. And I don't know. I don't know the extent of what they do, but I don't really think anything is off limits with this regime.

[D]

So just two very, very separate points. One is, I think it's insane that Donald Trump seems to be getting advice from not just Mark Levin, but the Mark Levin that appears on his show. So it's one thing if you're sitting in a room with Mark Levin and you're like, hey, what do you think I should do in this situation? And you get real Mark Levin, who might have a calmer take than what he's saying on the show, but Donald Trump recently put out that the Supreme Court should be listening to Mark Levin's show basically on the issue of birthright citizenship. Now, just quick shot, they got the law right, and we should probably change the law on birthright citizenship. But the Supreme Court is holding what the law is, and that's actually their job. But really just the takeaways. The fact that Donald Trump is listening to the Mark Levin show and going off of what he's hearing on the show is absolutely insane. On the topic of US Nuking Iran, from what I understand, we can issue enough death and destruction on Iran with conventional weapons that we wouldn't want to actually breach that threshold of being the first people since Japan to be using nukes on top of the fact we're already now okay with just engaging with blowing up their civilian infrastructure. So I don't think nukes are on the table for the U.S. i think the only risk of nukes is if Iran strikes Israel Back in a horrendous enough way that they go with the Samson option. But I guess Donald Trump is getting their back and willing to blow up enough civilian infrastructure. Doesn't look like we're going to have to get there.

[B]

Yeah, well, let's hope so. Let's hope so. I, like, I don't know. Again, I don't know. And I really, really want to err on the side of even what we were saying yesterday. It's like I could totally see Donald Trump walking away from this, just kind of bitching out and then pretending like he won the fact that he restated it again this morning. And now we're literally, as we speak here, Rob. We're about to. About six hours away from the timeline running out. In fact, when this show premieres on YouTube, it'll be starting at the timeline. Oof. I don't know, dude. It's getting harder and harder to not at least be like, yo, we've. It's just hard to overstate that we've never seen a president talking like this ever. I don't think presidents during World War II ever talked like this. Well, I mean, they did things like this, but it's at least enough to be like, I'm kind of concerned by this.

[D]

Well, this is. Sadly, it has real repercussions in reality, but this is the first time ever in a war, you got two countries that are just tweeting shit talk at each other.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Can you imagine if Hitler was shit talking the US during World War II and just were sending tweets back and forth at each other? And what that would have looked like?

[B]

Oh, man, it would have been pretty goddamn hilarious. Now that you mention it, that would have been Hitler.

[D]

Tweets would have Hitler, Stalin, the United States of America and Japan just with online Twitter trolls twittering at each other.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, no, it's a, it's an interesting thought experiment.

[D]

Yeah. Someone go film that sketch of Hitler getting on Twitter from his bunker to shit talk the United States of America.

[B]

Dude, can you. By the way, I, I wanted to play this clip. I, I thought this was interesting. A little bit of a. A changing gears. I mean, it's on, on the same topic, but I, One of the things reason why I thought this was interesting is because I've been saying now, well, I guess since, since Easter, at least saying that, being like, hey, look, man, what about all of these people who said the whole thing was about liberating the Iranians? How are none of them jumping off board of this now? Like, how Is this not, you know what I'm saying? Like what are they even saying at this point when you're now we're talking about sending them back to the stone Age? I mean, come on, this, these two things cannot both be true. And anyway, so I, I saw that trigonometry with Constantine and Francis, they, the show that, I really gotta say I like both of those guys a lot, despite our disagreements. But so a show that I've been on and, and we, me and Constantine have had a couple of other debates outside of, of that show and so they had that chicka, Alicia. I'm apologize if I'm not saying that. Right. But she's one of these Iranian expats. I debated her on Piers Morgan last year and you know, I mean it was pretty easy work. It was just whatever. Anyway, but so she was just on the trigonometry podcast. It's a very interesting dynamic here because both, look, Constantin, I don't know about France as much, but certainly I know Constantin was like a supporter of the 12 Day War, certainly does not have, you know, our foreign policy, is a supporter of Israel, supported Israel's destruction of Gaza, supported the 12 day war. He is like still at this point, I think the only guy I've seen who was way on board with the program. But then this round went, wait a minute, I don't know about this. So they're like kind of skeptical now. I think part of it is just that, like, I mean, look, I don't know exactly, you know, not trying to psychoanalyze Constantin or Francis, but I think part of it is also just that like he sees this as like, this is not going to work out well. And you know, he's a young guy or you know, he's my age or whatever. He's got a long career ahead of him. They got a huge show. It's like, yeah, you kind of want to be on record being against this if you think it's really going to go bad. That's kind of my read. Anyway here. Natalie, I just sent the, one of the clips over. Let's play that clip because I did, I don't know, I find this really interesting, very revealing.

[D]

Oh, this is the lady called you the most immoralized brain rotted idiot alive.

[B]

Yep, that was her.

[D]

Okay, just for reference,

[F]

I think there's, I can't, I can't say the numbers for sure, but I think there's like150,000 people within the ranks that are looking to defect to him.

[B]

And so what Are you basing that on.

[F]

How do we know that his team says that? How do we know? I mean, I. I can only tell you what his team says also. Reza Pahlavi. I think there's. I can't. I can't say the number she's making.

[B]

So she's making the argument that the Shaw's kid has 150,000 IRGC members ready to defect to him on a moment's notice. How does she know that? Because he says so. Like, this is. This is where. What they're up to now still. That, that. That we could put him in there and we could. We could what, Force a Western monarchy on the Iranian people with no reason at all to suspect that that would work? Absolutely no reason to think that would actually do anything except, like, go ahead, drop them in the country right now. How come they're not. Why are they not doing it, Dave? Killed.

[D]

I can see the strategy now. If you put them back in the Stone Age, Stone Age people like kings. So if you bring them their king and they live in a Stone Age environment, they might embrace them. You know, it all makes sense.

[B]

No, listen, that is. That is nearly airtight logic, Rob. The one flaw is that the Stone Age people, they also like theocracies. You know, there is. There's that one little issue. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Brunt. I love Brunt Workwear. I love their boots. They sent me a pair of them. They are my work boots. I use them all around my property. We just had the most devastating winter ever. Ever. I was out in the snow with them the whole winter. They held up great. And they're the most comfortable pair of work boots I've ever owned. Choosing work boots used to mean sacrificing comfort or sacrificing durability. It was always like, if they're strong enough for the job, they're going to kill your feet. If they're comfortable, they're not going to be strong enough for the job. That is over. Brunt Workwear has solved that. They are. This is the most comfortable pair of work boots you will ever own, and they will hold up on the toughest job sites. Plus, right now, our listeners can get $10 off their entire order if they use promo code problem. When they check [e-mail] just go over to bruntworkware.com and use that promo code problem for $10 off order today and let them know that you heard about them right here on Part of the problem. All right, let's get back into the show here. There's a. Here, I sent another clip there, which I also thought was. Was very interesting on the show. So here, let's. Let's play the one I just sent over. Natalie, what we are doing and what we're talking about is simply not going to enact regime change. Change. It just isn't. And that is the unfortunate situation.

[F]

A regime change can happen now if the circumstances are right. And so the question is, why aren't we aligning the circumstances to make it right? We have this window in time. We have this window in time where we can get the Iranian people out into the streets, possibly arm them, possibly go for, you know, they're doing. The precision strikes are so incredible. Why can't they go for the weaponry that they're using on the protest testers?

[B]

This is just assault rifles.

[F]

Well, can't they target that? No, they're targeting the booths. They're literally. They're targeting the booth where they're doing the checks.

[B]

I know, but you're not going to take out every single AK47 in Iran. It's not going to happen. And this is the thing. It's like the IRGC are still going to have guns at the end of the day.

[F]

Yeah.

[B]

I mean, this is like what they've. What they've got here. Why can't we send weapons in? Why can't we? Why can't we? Again, I mean, this is literally the question she's asking. Like, like, did you ever think any of this through as you've spent the last decade advocating for this war? This is your literally, like, think about how crazy this is. Like, it is. Look, I, I mean, I think this is a reasonable standard to, to, to have. Right. That there's. Okay. I have been opposing all of these wars for the last 20 years or so, and then I started podcasting 15 years ago, and then it's. I, it's taken off over the last 10 years. Right. So I've been for a while, like, in the game of opposing these wars, and I feel like, you know, I have an obligation to know my stuff. If I'm going to get out and make these arguments, then I got to really make sure I'm well read on them. And I have sound arguments and I've heard the counter arguments and I've read opposing views and I know what I'm talking about. And I just think if you're advocating. That's from someone advocating. We don't fight stupid wars of Aggression. But if you're advocating we launch wars of aggression, there is such a higher onus on you to like really make sure you have it right. And you know what you're talking about and you're telling me we've gotten to this point where we've launched the war that you've been publicly lobbying for, cheerleading for, for years and years and years and you haven't even thought through whether it's possible or not to. Look, first off, whether you can enact a regime change from the air. Only I've heard several military experts argue that that's been accomplished. Now we have achieved regime change with air campaigns and a mix of like a light footprint on the ground, but we've always had that ground component as well. And she's literally sitting here. Not only has she not thought through whether or not you can enact a regime change through the air, like how likely that is, but she's not even thought of whether you can target all of the guns rid around of every automatic rifle that they have in the country or semi automatic rifle that they have in the country. What? Like, no, that is not. And then even like when she says like, oh, why don't they arm the protesters? Like evidently they tried those weapons didn't get in. Right. This is what we just learned the other day. So it is unbelievable how much these people just, it's like over and over again they advocate for wars and then you just have to ask them like one or two questions, just scratch the surface a little bit to find out that they haven't thought through any of this. They have absolutely no plan. Well, how are we going to do this? What are, how are you going to reinstall the Shaw in Iran? Well, his people say, okay, you know, how, how are you going to enact regime change here? I don't know, maybe a lot of different things at once. We have, we have targeted airstrikes. Why can't we target the weapons? Like, I don't know. I mean this is like profoundly unserious for somebody who's like been advocate publicly advocating for a war. I just think like, I don't know, man, maybe I just take this more seriously than some. Like, I just feel like that's a really, you really have an obligation to do better than this. If you're out there with a big platform advocating for death and destruction, you better be damn sure that you have a plan and you know how that's going to work out. Well, and what does this chick have? I don't know, but I Want to try? Because I don't like that regime.

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If, if we all, like, pick up flower platters and we blow them into the wind, and maybe they'll all drift into Iran and people will feel peaceness in their heart. And the whole thing. This isn't even what our government's saying. Our government's not saying we're installing the Shah or that we're sending in. So why would you advocate for the current strikes on Iran? It's not even what you envision as being a better plan. And as you said, your plan is contingent on. Or her plan is contingent on being able to get all the guns out of the hands of the irgc. She doesn't know how that can be performed. And getting guns into the hands of the protesters, which has already failed. So sounds like there's no reason to even say this sentence.

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I mean, think about. Listen, man, this is the United States of America. The United States of America's federal government couldn't disarm America if they wanted to. You know, this is eventually why all these gun control debates were always so stupid, you know, because you just. After a while. I remember back in the day having a lot of gun control debates with liberals and stuff. You know, this. They kind of gave up on that issue a little bit. It used to be a really big thing that they were trying to push. Like after every mass shooting, they have some hysteria about how we got to round up the guns. And I'd always just be like, hey, look, man, just look at the logistics of this. Okay, so you want to round up the guns. Well, guess what? Texas is not agreeing. They're not giving them to you. So now what? What's your next move? No, I know you just wrote a law that said, you know, semi automatic rifles are illegal. Semi automatic weapons are illegal. Include the handguns in it. Okay, okay, no one turned to men. Now what? Now what do you do? You just. All you've done so far, so far is you transformed tens of millions. If you're talking about whole country, Hundreds, but probably 100 million. You know, you've, you've transformed tens of millions of, of law abiding citizens into felons. That's all you've done so far. And by the way, they're well armed felons now, you know, and so we can't even disarm our own people. We're supposed to disarm the IRGC from the skies. And you know the reason why I'm picking on Alicia a little bit here? Well, she did call me all those nasty names, and she's made a few videos about me being fairly disrespectful. So anyway, you know, there's that. But I will say, as I've kind of. I think I've made this point a little bit, but maybe to, like, kind of put a button on it, there's something about, like, the Iranian expatriates have always been the group that I'm a. I guess I'm the softest on in terms of the people advocating regime change in Iran. I. It in the same way that, like, you know, if there's a Cuban in exile living in the United States of America who wants regime change in Cuba, I have a little bit more of a soft spot for them than I do, you know, just some war hawk. So, like, if you're. If you're like, you know, I don't know, like Ted Cruz or David Worms or something like that, and like, you want regime change in Iran because you think it'll help Israel. I'm more disgusted by that than, like, a woman who's of Iranian descent who's like, hey, I just think it's so messed up that, like, my people are. Are repressed. And you know what I mean? Like, women are forced to wear burkas in Iran or something. So, like, even though I disagree with them, I always had a little bit of a softer spot for them because I go, okay, there is some. Some desire for your own people to be liberated. There's no question that the Iranian regime is a pretty brutally repressive regime. And so I can kind of understand that. But, man, I will tell you, that entire calculation has just flipped when you watch those same people not jump off board of this as Donald Trump has announced total war against the civilian population. Because now you just go like, oh, wait, what? You were pretending to actually care about your own people, when really all you want is this war. Like, what's going on here? You clearly have no plan for how this will work out. Two of the pro war guys, you know, on one of the biggest podcasts, that's people who support Israel, supported the 12 day war, all this stuff, they're sitting there telling you, hey, we're not going to get regime change. Donald Trump has already acknowledged it's not happening. You know, in his Trumpian way. We don't care about regime change because we've already gotten regime change. In other words, this regime is still going to be standing when this is over. That's what the President is acknowledging. And you're still on board with death and destruction in your country, even though you know it's not going to lead to any of the stuff you're talking about. I mean, maybe it's just delusional, but it really does, at least from my perspective. It calls into question what your real motivations ever were in this thing. So they've somehow gone from being like, the ones I had the softest spot to. To being the ones I'm like the most disgusted by. Like, how can you sit. How can you sit by and support this happening to your own people? My God. Anyway, all right, we could wrap up on that. Matt, look, today's gonna be an interesting night. We might be on the precipice of something very major. I am really hoping that tomorrow the story is how Donald Trump just extended the timeline or walked away or pretended anything else but didn't actually do Bridge and Tunnel Day. But we will see and we'll be here to talk about it tomorrow. God willing. Alright, thank you guys for listening. Catch you next time. Peace.

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