Dave Smith (61:07)
All right, let me just. Okay, that's the end of the clip. So let me just say this. I mean, I. Again, I do just find this. I find it infuriating because it's very. I feel like it's insulting to me personally to just be like, oh, almost. The only way you can do it is just go in there and validate everything Rogan says, which I. I don't know. You know, I've been on Joe's show a lot of times. I think I've. I think I've done it 12 times by myself and three times with Jay and Lewis, something like that. Anybody who follows me who listens to this show, so I assume the people I'm speaking to right now fall into that category. Would you say I just go on there and validate what Joe believes, or would you say I go on that show and talk about the things that I. I want to talk about the things that are my priorities, my issues that I know the most about. I go on there and I'm like, dude, Joe, I got to tell you about this. Let me say. Let me tell you this about that, okay? And, I mean, there are certainly things that he says that I validate when I think they're correct. But the idea that it's like, oh, you know, like, I went on there and failed, and therefore, you know, it's like. It's like when a standup comic bombs, and then it's like, you know, it's all the crowd's fault. It's all, this is. And then some other comic goes up and kills, and you're like, oh, man, you just had a bad set, dude. Like, to say that you went on there and the thing failed, and therefore, the conclusion is that the only way you can succeed is if you go on there and just validate anything they're saying. Again, there's another option there, which is that what you had to say wasn't that compelling. And I will say I really do resent the thing at the end where it's like, oh, but there's just more money in that. That. There's just more money in that. As if these guys aren't making good money, as if Kyle Kalinsky isn't making good money and hasn't been for quite a while. It's just dishonest. There's no money in the. And particularly, you know, I remember this was a thing. It was part of the reason why I was so vicious in the Chris Cuomo debate was because he said Something along those lines. To me, like, he said, I made some point early on in the debate if you go watch it. And he said something like, he goes, yeah, this is good for clicks on the Internet. But, you know, and it's like the implication, not even implicit, pretty explicit, is like, yeah, you make money from doing this. You know, and there was something so infuriating about Chris Cuomo telling me that I make money from this, even though, like, on the surface level, look, there's no question, Rob. Right. Me and you did. Our profile rose a lot during COVID and the fact that we were like such outspoken critics of the lockdowns and the mandates and the vaccine and all this stuff. Yeah, there were a lot of. There were people out there who were starved for that, who wanted voices that were standing up against the insane totalitarianism, and particularly voices who would arm them with really good arguments against it or a really good understanding of what was happening here. But to turn around and say, because a lot of us have become successful, that, oh, yeah, there's just money in that. Where. Especially getting it from someone like Chris Cuomo, where you're like, motherfucker, you made 10 times the fucking money any of us are making. And the whole time you were cashing those CNN checks, you never said one thing that would upset cnn. You never said one thing that would go against the establishment. Now you may hear him now saying, ivermectin is actually a really great drug. Show me the clip of them saying that on cnn. Show me the clip of them saying that schools should be reopened or that the lockdowns are causing all of this devastation. Show me that. That. Show me the clip. Show me the clip of Chris Cuomo on CNN saying the most obvious thing that would have gone against the network, that would have gone against the establishment. Something like, you know, I don't really think a 22 year old who had Covid last month should be forced to get a booster. Did he ever say that once on CNN's airwaves? No, not once. Okay, so, yeah, so don't turn around and tell me, like, we're just motivated by the money. Especially when like, like we were taking real risk by having these opinions. Yes, in hindsight, we get the benefit of we told the truth when it mattered, but there was real risk to doing that. Like there. Meanwhile, you guys are taking positions that are completely risk free and. And then saying, like, oh, there's just money in that. Look, man, if you want to say, oh, I'll go on these, these platforms and be adversarial okay. There's lots of platforms where you can be adversarial. There's lots of things where you can have debates. You could go on Rogan and be adversarial. Like, okay, but why didn't you do that? This is a very convenient excuse to say, oh, because at the time I believed I could do this. But hey, like, again, like Kyle, I think he said he went on four times, right? Like I said before, if you had to hold his hand like a toddler, well, how come you didn't mention that the first time? How come you didn't mention that the second time? Or the third time or the fourth time? Okay, so you're gonna say, oh, because I thought this method of being nice would work, but now I realize I have to be adversarial. Okay. It's just very convenient to say that. It's like, maybe it wouldn't go that good for you. Maybe if you went on there and you were adversarial, you'd end up getting fucked up. Just saying. I mean, like, I. I'm very confident that if you went on Rogan's show and told Joe, you know, Covid broke your brain, I think he'd eat your lunch. I think he'd fuck you up. Like, I think. I don't mean physically, obviously. I'm saying, like, I think he would just like destroy you because you'd be like, whose brain was broken, Dude, There are. There are people out there who were scared to leave their home. You know whose brain was broken during COVID Howard Stern. Howard Stern's brain was broken. He lived like a germaphobe and still is, I believe to this day.
