Dave Smith (23:07)
So that's. That was the moment there. I just thought. I remember. And again, I think it's kind of hard. Maybe some of this is lost on, like, younger people who weren't there for that time. But there was something about when he goes. And by the way, the audio on that clip was not great, but the, the applause for Giuliani in the room was thunderous. And when he goes, I demand that Ron Paul apologize for that. And Say he didn't really mean that. What, what you just expected out of any politician, especially when they've lost the crowd, is to apologize or at least in some sense walk it back or go kind of like, well, well, no, I didn't really mean it like that. And of course, we're the good guys and they're the bad guys. And of course. But, you know, and Ron Paul just. His response was, I very sincerely believe that when the CIA talks about blowback, they are correct, by the way. Blowback was a term coined by the CIA, which is just an interesting little, you know, bit information on top of this, because they're very well aware that their covert actions have unintended consequences. They're very aware of that. And of course, by the way. And then he just gives a history lesson, which was amazing. That was news to me at the time that we, in 1953, the CIA overthrew the democratically elected government of Iran and installed the Shah. And you're like, oh, that's why Iran hates us. That's why they still hate us. Because they lived for, what was it, from 53 to 1979, under a dictatorship that was imposed on them by a foreign country. And when Ron Paul goes like, how would we feel? How would we feel about that? You think about, like, all the Russiagate nonsense, when they tried to say that Donald Trump was like a Russian spy. Just try to imagine for a second he really was like, try to imagine that it really just was the truth that Russia came over here and overthrew our government and installed their chosen government. You imagine the type of, like, hatred that we would have toward them. And so anyway, I just. This moment, to me, was amazing, and it. It really had a huge impact on. On my life. And then, of course, I dove deep and read all around Paul's books, and then I read Rothbard and Mises and Tom woods and Peter Schiff and like, all these guys. And the. Anyway, essentially the point is here is the reason that I've been very concerned about terrorism here in America is that if Ron Paul's right about this, which I sure think he is, I just think it's like an overwhelming argument and there's been great books written about this stuff, but, like, the thing, whatever, even if you want to say that, like, Osama bin Laden himself was just a madman and was just, you know, which clearly he was, and he was evil and he was quite willing to kill innocent people, but the point is that in order for him to recruit people who were actually willing to give their own lives in order to hurt somebody else. You got to think, like, what makes somebody do that? Like, what. And this was never that hard for me to like, wrap my head around. But like, what would push someone to the point where they were willing to, to give their own life just to maybe hurt you? And it's real easy to sit there and say, oh, it's their religion. It's because they're, they're such religious fanatics. It's like, yeah, there's a lot of religious fanatics throughout the world, including Muslims, you know, who just don't do that. Just don't do that. I think Indonesia has the biggest Muslim population in the world. We're not getting a lot of Indonesian terrorists. And where were the terrorists from? They were Saudis and Egyptians. They lived in two countries under American sock puppet dictators. You know, they hid out in Afghanistan, but none of them were, were from there. And, you know, look, you. This was another point that Pat Buchanan made. I remember there's this video of Pat Buchanan that was like, the timing really lines up. It was right around 15 years before October 7th, and he was talking about some Israeli, I can't remember which one, but some Israeli operation that killed like a few hundred Palestinians, including like a bunch of children. And he was like, where do you think the brothers of those, like, girls who got killed? Where are they going to be in 15 years? What do you think they're going to be doing? Because if you're really asking yourself what would get you to that point, no matter what your religion is, what would get you to that point where you're, you're happy to die, to maybe go kill some of them? Try watching your little sister get killed in front of you. Try watching your kids or your mother or your grandmother or someone you really care about. Watch them get slaughtered by some, some other country. That might be the thing that gets you there. Anyway, the point is that for the entire last year, America has been, I don't even, I was going to say propping up, but it's really much more than that. I mean, America has been facilitating the slaughter of the Palestinians for well over a year now. Absolutely. Just simply would not, could not happen without U.S. support. And that is exactly the thing that motivates these guys. And like, I do think this is a real concern going forward. And it is, you know, Michael Schumer, I mean, I might be saying that his last name wrong, but something real close to that. Schweimer. He was the CIA, the head of the bin Laden unit in the CIA. And I believe he went a little bit nutty more recently. I'm not sure about that. I shouldn't say that without really remembering. I remember thinking he became a little bit of a kook. I could be wrong, but he wrote a couple books on this topic. He testified before Congress about it. I mean, he was, he was the head of the bin Laden unit at the CIA, right? Like, he was the guy who was charge of dealing with terrorism before 9 11. And he flat out testified before Congress and wrote in his book that he was just like, look, we got to be honest with the American people here. And he was like, look, our military presence in the Middle east and our support of Israel comes with this cost. The cost is terrorism. And if we don't wish to pay that cost, then okay. And if we do wish to pay that cost, then okay. Like, if you, if you're saying that the cost is worth it or something like that, then all right, but let's be honest about that. Let's be honest about what is going on here. And it's like Pat Buchanan always said, terrorism is the price of empire. And if you don't wish to pay that price, you got to get rid of the empire. And we're, we haven't done that. And Donald Trump and his, his foreign policy picks certainly don't seem to be moving in that direction at all. If anything, it's going to be more and more unconditional support for Israel. And I do think that this is the cost that is going to be associated with that. So sorry if that's not a very cheery, optimistic message for, for the first podcast of the year, but that is, that is how I feel. I am really concerned about this stuff. And I do think, you know, Scott, Scott Horton has said who, you know, the best foreign policy expert in the country. He has said many times that it is like, thank God Osama bin Laden is dead, because the, like, he really was. I don't think there's anyone else in the, you know, radical Sunni world who has quite the cachet that he had. We'll see. You know, who knows? But he really was the guy who would have been able to like, organize and inspire these type of attacks. But that doesn't mean they can't happen without him. And as we've seen in, in Europe and the United States of America, even since Osama bin Laden's death, there have been pretty awful terrorist attacks. And it appears we just got another one last night. 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Go to sheathunderwear.com use the promo code problem20. That will get you 20 off your entire order. Sheathunderwear.com all right, let's get back into the show. Okay, switching gears here a little bit. I do. There's. There's one other topic that I did want to discuss that I am loosely following. I'm not like, super up to up on the exact details, but it seems as if yesterday on New Year's Eve, over on Twitter, there was a little bit of drama where there seems to have been not. I. I was going to say the word de. Platforming, but I don't think that's actually correct. I. From what I understand, I don't think anybody's actually been kicked off the platform, but evidently there was a. A group of Twitter accounts, X accounts that got demonetized and had their blue checks taken away from them. The people here. Hold on. I think I have some of the list here. It. Sorry, let me just pull this up. So I have. It looks like Myron Gaines from the Fresh and Fit podcast. Jake Shields, Solomon Ahmed, Stu Peters, Dr. Lupus, and I think a few others, I believe. I thought Nick Fuentes might have lost his. His blue check, too, but I'm not seeing his name on this particular tweet. Let me check that right now. Yeah, well, he doesn't have a blue check mark on there, so. Yeah, that might have been him too in there. So a bunch of people. And now it, it seems, although it hasn't exactly been made clear, but it seems like there was. It was people basically you know, for you guys who don't know, of course, we did an episode on this before, but there was a huge dust up on Twitter over this H1B visa program and the, you know, the Vivek Ramaswamy tweet and a couple things that Elon Musk said, really, Drew, I mean, a tremendous amount of ire. A lot of people were very upset about their position on. On this stuff. And, you know, there was a lot of people were being, let's just say, very critical of them. Now, all of these people, I believe, who have lost. Have been demonetized and lost their blue check and all of this were all people who were very adamantly against. Against on the other side of the HB1 visa, you know, policy. These were people who are very critical of the program that Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy. Well, I, you know, I shouldn't even say they were defending it, because that's not exactly right. As I said on the episode, both of them kind of said the thing should be gutted and overhauled. But anyway, this was what the. The. A big Twitter storm was about. However, all of the people who. Who ended up being demonetized or losing their blue check marks were not only people who were critical of the visa program, because there's many people who are critical of that who did not get demonetized or lose their blue check mark, but they would. They're also all. Let's say. I want to put this in a way that's the most charitable. Let's say they're all pretty critical of not only Israel, but also of Jews. Because I also don't think I saw some of them saying that. It's like, oh, it's not really about that. It's because we're critical of Israel. But if I'm being honest, there's also a lot of people who are critical of Israel. You know, like, I'm critical of the visa program and of Israel. I have not lost my. My check mark or I'm not actually monetized on Twitter, but. So I guess. I guess they can't take that away from me because I've never actually monetized the damn thing. I think I'm probably leaving money on the table for not doing that. Maybe I should, but I'm not. But no, it's. It's people who are also critical of Jews in general. And, you know, I don't know. I just. I wanted to give a few thoughts on this, because I do think this is a bad path to Go down. I think this is not a wise decision by Elon Musk and I think if he is making this decision, he should be transparent and clear about it. To be 100% clear, just disclosing my own bias or whatever, I. The people who have been, have been deplatformed and demonetized. Not deplatformed, I'm sorry, but demonetized and lost their blue check mark and all of this. They range, I know some of them and I've done some of their shows and then some of them I've also had some fairly unpleasant interactions with. So like, a few of them have been particularly shitty to me and a few of them have been very nothing but kind and respectful to me. I also, you know, full bias. Like I'm Jewish and I don't like the anti Jewish stuff. So that's my bias. But in some ways that almost makes it a more interesting situation because if you really do, you know, when you get into conversations about free speech and free speech platforms, the stuff that you don't like is actually a better test of your commitment to that value than the stuff you do like. Because of course, we all want the stuff that we do like and do agree with to be, you know, we don't want any of them to be silenced or demonetized. There's a great old Noam Chomsky line where he was said something like, you don't believe in free speech unless you believe in free speech that you hate. Because everybody believes in free speech that they love. He said, he said Hitler and Stalin both believed in free speech that they agreed with. Like they weren't trying to shut you down if you said what they wanted you to say. The whole point of freedom of speech is that you're allowed to say the things that other people really don't want you to say. That's the real test of it. Now, just a couple thoughts that I have on this. Number one, I am somebody who very much believes in free. In free speech. When we talk about free speech, though, I think a lot of times it's free speech. Freedom of speech is kind of like freedom of movement or freedom of religion or they're. They're kind of abstractions. They're not exactly tangible. So, like, I'm not true. Like people claim they're free speech absolutists. I don't know if that's actually the technically correct term. I'm much more of a property rights absolutist than I am a free speech absolutist. And this is something that most of us are, without ever really thinking about it. It's just. It's kind of. It's the de facto state of belief in a Western civilized society. So when I say property rights, and not just speech rights, I mean that, you know, you don't actually have the right to say whatever you want to say in somebody else's home. Right. Like, so Natalie, who's our producer, who's here running the show right now. We do. I mean, we're remote today, but Natalie and Rob come to my house to record the show regularly. Now, technically speaking, I could kind of dictate what you're allowed to say or not say in my house. Now, I could be really arbitrary and tyrannical, if you want to call it that. With it, I could say, you're not allowed to use any words that end in the letter A. And if you do, you have to get out of my house. Technically, I have the right to do that. It would be pretty stupid, but, like, I have the right to do that because it's my house. So I can decide now. Okay. If you're gonna proceed in your life that way, good luck getting along with other people and maintaining relationships and things like that. But technically, we would all kind of agree that, like, you do have a right to tell someone to leave your house. It's your house. No, they still have their freedom of speech, but they're gonna have to take that speech somewhere else. So that. That's kind of like the base of how. Now, there also are lots of rules. None of them have ever been spoken out loud, but they're always implied because everyone just knows it. But, like, there are things you're not allowed to say in my house. Like, you. You can't curse out my wife while you're here. Or, you know, like, now, if next time you come over, you curse out my wife, I'd be like, I don't know if this is going to work out with us, you know, because that's kind of a deal breaker for me. But so there is. I just think it's important just to make this point to understand that. It's like whenever we talk about these things, it's always really about property rights. Now, technically, I'll say this. What happened with Twitter in the old Twitter was not simply that the people who owned Twitter decided what you were and weren't allowed to say on Twitter. What happened was the government got involved and heavily pressured and really kind of threatened these tech companies to crack down on speech. So that, to me, is like a blatant First Amendment violation and anti free speech. Because it's not. That's a very. It's a very different thing. If, like, I were to say, hey, you can't curse out my wife in my house, or you got to get out of my house, then if the government were to come in and say, you can't criticize the government in your house. Right. Those are just different in kind. And so anyway, Elon Musk came in and he said he was going to make Twitter a free speech platform. And I also, I want to give him a lot of credit here. You know, I may, I may have some disagreements with Elon Musk and even with Vivek Ramaswamy about some of the things they were saying about American culture. Ramaswamy was saying about American culture. And I'm a critic of the HB1 visa program. I do also want to say, I don't think. I think both of them have been, like, tremendously forces for good in America over the last year, two years particularly. And I think Elon Musk, he. He bought Twitter and said he was going to make it a free speech platform. And I think he certainly has made it much more of one than it used to be. And so I think he's overall done a pretty good job. Now. He has fallen a little bit short of the goal that or of the. The promise, I guess you could say, that he made. There was a good example of this was when Kanye west got kicked off of Twitter. I think he. He posted a swastika or something like that. There was like kind of. It wasn't just a regular swastika. It was like some version of a swastika or whatever. But he got kicked off Twitter for this. And this creates a problem because Elon Musk came in and what he said, and he was very clear about this, he explicitly stated this on many different occasions. He said, this is a free speech platform, and as long as you're not breaking the law, you're not going to get kicked off. Now, it is not against the law for Kanye to tweet a swastika. Okay? That's. It's just not. And so you could understand, we're like, okay, yeah, like, threatening somebody or something like that. Okay, if that's illegal, then you can't do that on Twitter. So that would be like what Elon's stated limit was. But once you're kicking people off for hate speech, you're no longer doing what you said you were going to do. And listen, this happens a lot in Life. People say they're going to do something, they fall a little bit short of that, but maybe it's still better that they said they were going to do that and they fall a little bit short rather than falling a lot. A bit short. Okay, but here's, here's how I actually feel about this. I. My major beef with the old censorship regime was that it was actually done by the government, which is like an institution of force, and that it wasn't like just somebody deciding what they wanted to do with their platform. So that was my major issue with it. And we. I've talked about this at length many times. There's. It's not just arbitrarily because I don't like the government, but it's okay if a private company does it. It's. There's many reasons to want to draw a line there and say that, no, the government can't come in and start regulating speech. But on top of that, the major issue for me was always that people were getting kicked off of Twitter for telling the truth. I mean, this was like. And telling the truth that opposed the tyrannical regime's policies. There are people like Alex Berenson were getting kicked off Twitter for just telling the truth about COVID And this happened to lots of people. I mean, and I witnessed a lot of it during the COVID years. And of course, not just on Twitter, on Facebook and Instagram and all of these places, YouTube, all of them. And so this was a major problem. Now, I will say that I don't like when it comes to these platforms. I don't necessarily think that there have to be no rules or there have to be no things that you're not allowed to say on the platform. In other words, what I'm saying is like, my concern is that people are allowed to tell the truth. If you were going to say, the rules of Twitter are like, you're not allowed. There's words you're not allowed to say. Like, you can't say, you know, whatever, we have to bleep all the words out on YouTube anyway. So just think of all the fucked up words you know, you're not supposed to say. Okay, if the rule was like, you can't say that. I don't really like. My, my thing isn't like, no, you have to be allowed to go call people if on Twitter or something like that. If it was just like, hey, you can't say that word here, that wouldn't be the biggest deal. To me, the issue comes when it's like, Number one, you are saying you're going to be a free speech platform. You are saying that anything that doesn't violate the law, you are allowed to say here. But then that's not true. Now you got an issue because you're selling a product of something and it's not that. And if, if, if Elon Musk's goal, which he's said many times, his goal is to make X the Everything app. The app where you can do your banking and pay your bills and communicate and research and fact check and, and everything, particularly the banking aspect of it. If you want that, then you really, you have to build up a level of trust where like, look, it doesn't mean there have to be no rules. I'll say this very clearly. If I owned a giant tech platform, I'm not sure there wouldn't be any rules about what you're allowed and not allowed to say. I mean, there are certain things to me that I just find abhorrent there. You know, there's a whole like really weird strain of like leftist, intersectional, critical theory type people who, who actually coined the term minor attracted person because they didn't feel that like, they felt like pedophile had like a negative connotation to it as it kind of does. Right. You know, it's like that's kind of turned into a pejorative. And they were like, hey, it's just a sexual preference at the end of the day. So we should call you minor attracted person, not pedophile. If I owned a big tech, big tech platform, I could very likely see myself saying, nope, you're not allowed to do that. You get kicked off. If you are trying to rehabilitate the image of pedophilia, you get kicked off of my platform. I'm not against there being rules. Maybe there should. Even if you want to say again now, to be clear here, I wouldn't kick people off for, for, for hating Jews or something like that, but I could. I'll, I'll get into that in a second. But the real issue is not that there can't be any rules. The real issue is not that the rule has to be. You're allowed to say anything as long as it doesn't break the law. The issue is that that's what Elon Musk said multiple times explicitly. I think that's the issue here. Like, if you want to. My own, and I think this is reasonable. Okay. My only real demand, not that I'm in a position to make demands of Elon Musk. Guy's got a few bucks and a bit of influence. But I would just say I think this is a reasonable request, is that be trans. Be transparent about what the rules are. Explain what the rules are and then apply them equally across the board. I think if you do that, you're going to clean up a lot of these problems. Like, if you want to say you're not allowed to post swastikas, then fine, but say that and make it very clear. If you want to say you're not allowed to use this word or that word or say this. Okay, now again, I'm not saying I support that. I'm saying it is your right to do that with your property, which is this platform. Now, if. I think if you did that, you'd avoid a lot of the issues. A lot of the issues. Now, also, I want to be somewhat charitable here to Elon Musk and just say that I think he has done a lot of good over the last few years. And I'm sure there are struggles that come with running such a gigantic thing that I just can't imagine. You know, I have, I have struggles just running the couple podcasts that I do and, you know, taking care of my kids and managing my schedule and that. That feels like a lot to me. So I'm sure there are a lot of challenges with like running. How many companies does Elon Musk have at this point that are all multi billion dollar companies? You know, like, I get that. I'm sure there's a lot of challenges to that. And I don't think he should be written off. I don't think, you know, Vivek should be written off or like that. I think they're really important, brilliant voices right now. But I do think there's something here that you kind of got to deal with. It's like, what are the rules, man? Because the rules clearly aren't what you just said. Now, it is also true that he didn't kick people off at least again, by the way, correct me if I'm wrong, fans, if somebody did get kicked off of there, but I don't, from what I've seen, I haven't seen that anybody actually any. Actually anyone actually got. Got booted off of there. And so, okay, listen, I'm trying to be reasonable and charitable here. That's an improvement. That's an improvement from just booting people off. Certainly an improvement from like kicking people off for simply saying that like lockdowns are ineffective or the vaccine doesn't work the way that these guys are telling you. It does work. But I do think you gotta, you gotta like be transparent about what the rules are and then apply them equally. Because the problem is when you start to, when you don't do that, you can find yourself in a situation like this where it sure does have the appearance that you're like lowering the signal or depriving people's ability to make money on your platform because they were on a different side of an issue than you or they made you look bad, you know, and you don't want to have that. That is a really good way to lose your credibility and lose the credibility of X becoming what you want it to become. The Everything app. Okay, so that's, that's one thing. And then I would just say on top of that, and I say this again just to be clear with my bias here. I don't like the anti Jewish stuff. I am Jewish. I don't like, particularly like seeing that. And I think it's, I think it's not good. I don't think it's right. And you know, as I've that we did a whole episode on this just recently, I also think it hurts. I think it is very damaging to the cause that I believe in. And I don't think it's like, you know, if, if the argument is like that I only go to the surface level when I'm criticizing Israel and the neocons, but these guys get right to the heart of it, which is Jews. I think that's wrong. And I also think that many Americans, many people can be persuaded to believe that what Israel's doing is really fucked up and that our country shouldn't be funding and arming what they're doing, that they shouldn't get an unconditional blank check from the United States of America. I think people can also be persuaded to believe that like the neocons and the corporate media and, and the banking industry are all incredibly corrupt and damaging to the country. But if you're just trying to attach it to like hating Jews, I do think that you're gonna lose a lot of people. Cuz a lot of people correctly recognize that as being ugly and kind of stupid and not good. All right guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Public Rec. 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Get yourself the most comfortable pants you're ever going to wear and look great while you're wearing them. Public rec.com promo code problem for 20% off. All right, let's get back into the show. Okay, so I don't like that stuff. I would not, if I had control of Twitter, ban any of those people or demonetize any of those people because it's just a bad path to go down and it does not solve the problem. It does not solve the problem at all. Then when I say solve the problem, from my perspective, for someone who doesn't believe that hating Jews is the correct answer, it only. Listen, man, you know, I know is that kind of old, like classical liberal, you know, slogan or whatever, sunlight is the best disinfectant or you fight bad ideas with good ideas. The answer to hate speeches, more speech. But I do think that's all true. I really do. I don't think driving, attempting to drive things into a dark corner does not make them better. And shouldn't we all know this at this point? I mean, look, even if you are, because, you know, I do see, I see a lot of people, some other people who've not been very friendly to me but who are like celebrating, just openly celebrating on X that all these accounts got demonetized, lost their blue check mark. I think that's very short sighted. I mean, look, think back. If you are one of the people who really goes like antisemitism is out of control and there's all of this vile Jew hatred on Twitter or something like that. Well, I mean, think about the censorship regime that really started in 2016. There were some people who were censored before that, but it really started in Mass in 2016 and went all the way up until Elon Musk bought Twitter. So it was, at least I think he bought it in 22. So, you know, it was from 2016 to 2022. Every one of them was kicked off. All of them were booted from all platforms. You know, and if you're saying anti Semitism's worse than ever, well then, I mean, clearly we could deduce that that didn't work. So it's not even effective for your cause. I, I think, I would argue it's kind of in a. Maybe there's a. I didn't plan on making a connection between these two, but maybe there's even a similarity to the blowback stuff that like, you know, it actually ends up having this reverse unintended consequence of a lot of people end up going like, oh well how come you have to silence this guy? Well, maybe he's really telling the secret truth and it draws more people in there. And I also think that it just, if your goal was to pull anyone out of that way of thinking, I just think this is the worst way to do it. So what I, you know, I don't support any of these guys getting demonetized or getting their blue checks taken away. Obviously, like, like I said before, there's a, there's a range in that group of people who have been nothing but cool to me and some people who have been pretty shitty to me. But it doesn't matter, you know, like it shouldn't matter whether you were shitty to me or you were cool to me, or whether I agree with your view or whether I vehemently disagree with your view. What are we doing here with X are we saying, you know, for years. And I think this is something that, for Rad, a radical libertarian like myself, there's always been this kind of question mark. It's like for, for years now, since Donald Trump was president the first time really the talking point has become, well, now free speech is a right wing value. And when did that happen? Why does that. That should be something we all agree on. But you know, there's this dynamic and I've talked about this many, many times in the past. But when you're, okay, so if you're getting mugged at gunpoint and you, you got a gun pointed at you, you're unarmed, the guy mugging you has a gun, it's pointed at you, and you go, hey, I don't believe in violence. I don't believe we should point guns at people and take their money. Now that is the correct position, but it's also a very easy position to have when someone else has the gun and they're pointing it at you. When you have the gun, then that's the real test of whether you believe in violence or not. Right? Then it really means something. And so I think there are, there are some people who have been making the case through the years where the woke progressives had dominant control over big tech and the corporate media and the political class and Hollywood and academia and all the rest. Test when the woke progressives had control of all of that and they say, hey, we're for free speech. This was said by a lot of people. But, like, if you really are for free speech, then the test kind of comes when you actually have some control over that and when you have control and things you don't like are being said. And I do just think that, and I guess I've always believed this since the, the Ron Paul days, that we the people, if you believe you have the truth on your side and you're fighting for what's right, then you should be on the side of opposing censorship, particularly on the Internet, because it's our only shot to ever, like, get the truth out there. And again, again, this is all kind of like classical liberal, you know, wisdom. But, you know, be, be careful of a tool like this, man. I mean, even if you think just for now, it's like, well, maybe you really don't like those people very much who are getting demonetized, okay? But you, once you accept that premise, once you accept that precedent, you may have an opinion that's really seen as pretty vile by some people at some point, too, you may have an opinion that opposes the regime in some way, and that is when you're really not going to want censorship to be around think it's something to think about. All right, listen, I got to wrap the show up there. I'm going to go spend the rest of New Year's Day with the family. Thank you guys so much for listening. Thank you everyone who's a subscriber at part of the problem.com for subscribing. I. I really appreciate all of you, and I'm looking forward to a great year with all of you. All right, take it easy. Peace.