Loading summary
Transcript63 lines
- [00:01]
A
Every day as a small business owner feels like solving a puzzle. One moment you're cruising along and the next there's a shipping snag that has you scrambling. But here's a surprise you will like with Progressive. Small business owners save 13% on their commercial auto insurance when they pay in full. So go ahead, surprise yourself. Get a quote in as little as 8 minutes@progressivecommercial.com progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates. Discounts not available in all states or situations. Why does Progressive work hard for truckers? Because truckers unite the world. They unite kids with their first drum sets and parents with earplugs. But truckers can't do this if they're not on the road. That's why Progressive has over 360 heavy truck employees to help truckers stay on time and on track. Quote Truck Insurance today in as little as eight minutes@progressivecommercial.com Progressive Casualty Insurance Company and affiliates foreign. What's up? What's up, everybody? Welcome to a brand new episode of Part of the problem. I am Dave Smith. As always, I'm joined by the great, hilarious Robbie the Fire Bernstein. How are you, sir?
- [01:14]
B
I am well, my friend. How are you?
- [01:17]
A
I'm good, I'm good. I'm looking forward to going up to Toronto with you. You've got a little stringer gigs.
- [01:25]
B
I got a wild amount of stuff. Assuming I get across the border, it'll be a burden. New York on Thursday. Fans got a nice one.
- [01:32]
A
Stop adding this caveat into the the plug. The point of doing a plug is to get people to come to the show. And then you go with. It's like, I mean, I guess if it happens, it'll be.
- [01:41]
B
Well, all these other ones are definitely happening.
- [01:43]
A
We're gonna be in Toronto too. That's the one I'm on. That's the one I care about. We're gonna be there.
- [01:47]
B
All right, well, bird at New York then opening for you in Toronto. Then I'm Detroit, Michigan and then Pittsburgh and then coming day and I got a lot of porches all summer long. You go to port.com, see the whole roster of them.
- [02:00]
A
Hell yeah, dude. And I'm getting real excited for that Denver weekend too. That's coming up soon, man. And we got. That was, I think if I. We sold out every show last year. So we're hoping to do that again this year. If you're in the Denver area and you want to come out, grab tickets now because these are going to move. Comicdavesmith.com and then porch tour.com is your site, right, Rob? I got that right. You change it a lot.
- [02:23]
B
But I remembered and I'm excited to not be home for any more weekends for a while because, my God, do I hate it. Yeah.
- [02:29]
A
See, your home is a reflection of yourself, Rob, and you hate yourself. And this is why you have to try to run away. You have to try to run away from yourself all over the country. But you bring. You bring joy and laughter as you do.
- [02:41]
B
It's just all the stuff you hate. It's like I was working all weekend, but it was getting myself out of laundry debt. It's cleaning up the piles you ignore all the time. And I'd rather just let the piles like grow and ignore them and then just be out and doing the comedy thing.
- [02:54]
A
There's a. I've. I've. Essentially the thing is like, I just. Look, there's. There's something to that. When you're, when you're on the road a lot, that always becomes part of life. It's like when you get home, you want to just be like, oh, I'm home. But really when you get home, it's like, no, here's the 15 tasks that you can only get done now that you're home that you couldn't get done there. So. But I'll tell you what, having kids, all right, this is good. This is not going to sound like a good pitch for having children, but dads out there will know. Get what I'm saying? There's something about when you have kids that you're just forced to submit. It's like the true concept of Islam, right? You're just forced to submit to the fact that that's just life. Life is always just doing some other stuff. There's no such thing as a break. There's no such thing as like that. It's just like as soon as you get home is just. The list of you got to do is never ending. Got paid. I built a gazebo this weekend, Rob. Did you built a gazebo? Yes.
- [03:52]
B
Does that mean you hired someone else to build a gazebo?
- [03:54]
A
No, I built my dumb gazebo with my father in law, dude. It nearly broke me, Rob. Like a big, huge. It looks so good, though. I'm so proud of it. But that was my entire weekend. I mean, this thing was a humongous job anyway. Okay, let's get into some stuff because there's a lot of stuff going on the. All right, Rob, I know you've been reading the news on this a lot as I have been today, and over the last few days, I'm let's try to put this together as best we can, starting with last Thursday where there is an Axios report that comes out that the deal is done. It's been, it's been agreed to. It's just waiting for Donald Trump to decide whether or not he's going to sign it. And the reporting indicated that this was a very favorable deal to the U.S. we of course, were skeptical to say the least. As we stand now on Monday, a clearer picture has started to emerge. Rob, and tell me from your reading of the news if you think I'm getting this right. Okay. And I'm trying to be charitable to both sides here. I think Donald Trump is correct in saying that the deal was going very good. America was getting all the terms that it wanted. And the only issue was that as as good as the negotiations were going, the Iranians were not involved in the negotiations. So Donald Trump had worked out a great deal with himself. But there is one problem with that. The Iranians don't agree to it. So after all of this reporting, the latest today here, now this is just give a little caveat here because there is, and I don't know if you saw this, Rob, but there is a little bit, at least from the latest I've been reading, a little bit of a gap between what the Post was reporting and what Dropsite was reporting. And the Post was a little bit, and I trust drop said more on getting what the Iranians are saying right. But the Post said the Iranians have walked away from all negotiations like they're done, they're not negotiating really kind of blowing up. This alleged ceasefire drop site had a little bit more of a caveat in there where the quote they had was like the Iranians are strongly considering walking away entirely from the negotiations. So it's not exactly clear what's true. But literally, Rob, over as far back as over the night while the rest of us were sleeping, Donald Trump was tweeting that a deal is close and it's going to be very good for the American people. Today it looks like the Iranians are entirely walking away. In other words, nothing was accomplished. Right back to square one. Absolutely no agreement on any of the major issues. And here's the last thing and then I'll throw it over to you to give your thoughts. What is it all about? What has blown the whole thing up? Israel is not abiding by the ceasefire in Lebanon after the President of the United States ordered them to forbade them from bombing them anymore. They've continued just devastating the place. And this is what blew up the ceasefire. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is the wellness company. You've heard me talk about their product called Mars. Well, thank you. The Roman God has been upgraded to the Greek God. Same powerful formula, just a name that hits a little bit harder. Say hello to Zeus. Average male testosterone levels have been quietly declining for decades. And according to the Cleveland Clinic, nearly 1 in 10 men over 50 now have clinically low testosterone. And guys, if you're in Your early to mid-40s, it's already declining. Now, the problem with quote unquote low T is that it's often defined as under 300 nanograms per deciliter, meaning you can still be labeled normal and feel anything but normal. Low energy, low libido, brain fog, mood swings, gaining fat while losing muscle. We're told this is just part of aging, but sometimes it's your hormones asking for help. If there was ever a formula designed to help men reclaim their strength, energy and confidence, the name had to match. That's why the wellness company created Zeus. Zeus is a hormone free, non injectable formula designed to support your body's natural testosterone production without needles, prescriptions or synthetic hormones. Power your performance. Restore your edge by going to TWC problem and use the promo code problem to get 10% off plus free shipping in the US once again, that's TWC Health SL problem and the promo code is problem for 10% off plus free shipping. All right, let's get back into the show. Tell me your read of, of what you think.
- [08:44]
B
Well, I agree with you on the last and middle part, but I, I think I had the story a little bit differently, which was from what I was seeing. The US actually came to the table with some big concessions and then Donald Trump blew up the deal by saying, I gotta change some of these factors. So it seemed like there was actually some momentum towards a deal. Now Iran did come back and say, hey, Israel's gotta stop in Lebanon. That's a part of what's happening here. That's gotta be a part of the ceasefire. And now as to what's going on, as supposed ceasefire stands, it seems like the ceasefire itself is over. I guess the, the Iranians shot down a reaper or one of those. The Predator or the Reaper. America's claiming that that was not an international, it was in international waters. Iran is claiming otherwise. But yeah, I mean, we're saying last week the biggest variable is, biggest variable is whether or not Israel is going to play ball. Israel is not. And so for the moment, Iran is, Iran is walking away. I mean, that's the latest.
- [09:47]
A
Yeah, that's okay. So, yes, no, you, you're right about the. There was reporting that there had been some pretty major concessions that were made by the Americans and then Donald Trump came in. But then the latest, it's kind of hard to gauge exactly what happened in that period there, but the latest. I know yesterday Fox News released the, the details of the deal that Trump was willing to. And it's just, it's right back to maximalist US Demands. And a day later, the Iranians have walked away. So there's just this, this game that's being played where Donald Trump is constantly lying and telling you that Iran really wants to make a deal. They're desperate to make a deal. The Iranians are making clear at every single phase that that is not true, at least not if it's the deal that Donald Trump's talking about. And they've. And the truth is that, you know, the truth is that we had such a great deal with the jcpoa. I mean, again, not perfect, you know, as far as these things go, but we had actually relatively, you know, I want to say, in within the realm of what could possibly be achieved, actually it was a really good deal. And I, I actually hate Barack Obama much more than the average Trump supporter does and with much more specific receipts. But, but if we're being honest here, just think about this, Rob, in the context of even the problems that all of the hawks right now are talking about, whether they'd mentioned 60% enriched uranium or whatever, it's like, okay, well, you had a deal where they were down to three and a quarter percent, where there was an inspections regime, a non Iranian neutral in, you know, the iaea, the like gold standard of nuclear inspections regimes in Iran, which, watching the whole thing, you had major concessions from the Iranians. You had some very minimal unfreezing of assets that already belong to Iran. Like it was a good deal. You had international buy into it. I mean, relatively speaking, compared to everything else and every other option with Iran, it was that Donald Trump also had offers on the table that were improvements from, from the deal. Their, their Geneva negotiations. They, they had offered more than the jcpoa. He was also negotiating before both of the wars that he launched against them and could have gotten a better deal. But at this point, we still actually could get something that's a fairly reasonable deal that every American could absolutely live with. There's no reason that, like, right now you could get something like a pledge that Iran isn't going to develop nuclear weapons and, you know, an opening of the strait with them getting to maintain some level of control, or maybe they. They charge a little environment rental fee or something like that for a little bit. But you know what, at least the world economy gets relieved and oil starts flowing through, and we could just make a deal and then say, we're going to guarantee that we won't attack you anymore. We're going to reign Israel in or not support them. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, if we were willing to do those things, we could get a reasonable deal that everyone would. Could live with. The problem is Trump would be humiliated, you know, and he's not willing to do that for obvious reasons. But there's. Now we're. We're back to where we've been this entire time, which is a very bad place. There's that. Donald Trump's. I mean, Rob, how many bluffs have they called already on him? What does he do now at this point? Like, how many times can he go around this merry go round where he goes, we're going to totally destroy you unless you make a deal. And they're dying to make a deal because we've already destroyed them so much. So make the deal right now or we totally destroy you. And they go, no. And he goes, all right, but, you know, like, this is. How many more of these before it's just like you got to either do one or the other. I don't know. I mean, I really have an answer to that. I'm kind of. I'm kind of shocked that they were able to do another round of it already.
- [13:52]
B
Yeah, I think Donald Trump is kind of content to sit in the somewhat neutral ceasefire stage, where there's limited strikes on both sides, and just wait and see if maybe he somehow gains leverage. And I think the reality of the situation is he's just prolonging the problem. And at some point, gas prices are actually going to come up significantly, and then Donald Trump's going to have no choice but to basically make the deal that you just said. And the real loser in that is, well, Israel's the biggest loser. And then the US Also has a problem of. I think some of our regional partners are going to view us as significantly less reliable, but the real loser is going to be Israel. And I don't think Donald Trump is willing to change the reality until he's absolutely forced to, which is going to mean either more of an all out war with massive devastation in the region or such a bad trajectory for gas prices and midterms that, you know, he finally decides he has no choice.
- [14:51]
A
You know, one of the things I worry about the most with all of this and I guess my, my primary concern here is that, I mean, what the obvious, like the, the maximalist catastrophic risks, which I'm not saying any of them are going to come true, but like the biggest concern is what you alluded to there at the end, like the war really, you know, a massive, like, you know, a, a massive bombing campaign where, you know, huge numbers of people die and they respond by taking out a desalination plant or something, you know, like that. Like the fear of something really spiraling out of control, which I'm still hopeful won't happen. But you know, you do risk these things happening and you've got a President of the United States who's threatened bridge and power plant day, and you got an IRGC who's threatened to respond in kind by taking out desalination plants. You know, they're threatening this. And so that's a real concern. But then like a secondary concern is almost, and I know I've made the comparison before to like the money printing in 2020 and then how we didn't really feel the price inflation until 2021, 2022. And it's what we're doing now with this blockade is almost like it's, I'm trying, I'm struggling for like the best way to articulate this, but essentially what we're doing is we're going, we're judging by the current pain, this policy, even though most of the pain felt by this policy won't be coming for months. You know what I mean? And so we're going, okay, gases for bucks and a quarter right now that's putting a strain on people. You know, there's, that's what it is here in New Jersey. I don't know, it might be, you know, more expensive in California or someplace like that. But you know, you're like, okay, so you're judging off this current, but essentially as soon as you stop, like as soon as it gets bad enough that you finally have to stop, that doesn't mean the pain is over. That means we're going to just start feeling the pain of all of these months. And I don't know, Rob, I just, this is above my pay grade. But you know, whatever. You look at the numbers, what is this? 20% of global oil flows through the Strait of Hormuz and A huge percentage of fertilizer and other things. And like, okay, that's been blockaded now for like several weeks. Like what's the impact of that? I don't know. Seems like very risky though. And we do live, however any of us feel about this in such an integrated, such a globalized economy that I don't know, I don't think it's irrational to really be concerned about how much devastation that could have to the entire global economy. These are big numbers we're talking about here.
- [17:34]
B
Yeah, well, the chatter last week is just this is not my specialty by a long shot, but that oil reserves have been drawn down and that that's what was kind of keeping prices somewhat stable. And now we're coming to more the breaking point of where you're going to see big increases that kind of lined up with the fact that Donald Trump was seemingly looking to offer some concessions last week to end the war, even though he has now walked it back from that. So I mean, that was the storyline last week is that we're hitting like kind of a crucial stage for when you're going to see oil increases. But I don't know how to look at oil charts and tell you whether or not it's accurate.
- [18:11]
A
Yeah, no, same, same. That's why I said it's above my pay grade. But it is, it does seem to be a big concern. You know, one other thing that I noticed last night, did you see, did you see the Trump's truth social post where he goes, he said it'll everything just don't worry, everything will work out. It always does.
- [18:32]
B
Yes.
- [18:33]
A
And did you notice because this is just something that I picked up on that I found kind of interesting because I believe I'm almost like 99% sure he's said this publicly too, but he certainly said it to me privately several times. But this is exact the exact wording that Tucker Carlson claimed Donald Trump told him in their last meeting before, you know, if you remember, Tucker had gone to D.C. like a bunch of times in a few weeks to try to convince Trump not to launch this war. Isn't that something in hindsight just to think about that like, well, Tucker and. But he's. But anyway, just, I'm sorry, I want to hear you. But he literally said that that's what Donald Trump said. And in a sense this like confirms that Tucker was telling the exact truth because that's his exact. But that is 80 year old Donald Trump's in rattling around in his brain that it always works out, man. So just like, whatever, just go with it. Sorry, go ahead.
- [19:35]
B
I laughed when I saw it because I was like, man, this is the one time I've ever seen Donald Trump not want the attention that I guess things are going poorly enough that he's like, guys, quit with all the reporting on me and what I'm doing. Just knock it off. But yeah, I guess that's where his positive sales outlook is. You know, really meeting the end of its road is in pretending like this will just sort itself out. And if you look at Donald Trump's history, listen, the guy, he's very wealthy, he's very successful, he's had some big losses over the years, and he's been able to just pivot and walk away and move on to the next thing.
- [20:07]
A
And it always works out.
- [20:08]
B
Yeah, but you can't do that here. Like, for example, when you tried to overtake the NFL and Trump FL or whatever, that league blew up because of the moves he was making, you move on to the next thing. You kind of can't do that in global politics.
- [20:21]
A
It's different when you start a war than when you try to start a business. It's just, they're not one to one comparisons. You know, you don't get to declare
- [20:29]
B
bankruptcy and then just relaunch the next project and sell some ties and then sell some stakes and then sell some this.
- [20:36]
A
Look, man, there just really is, though, and I think it's worth focusing on that there is something different about where Trump is right now versus where Trump has been. And they're just. There is something really very fundamentally different about the leader that Donald Trump has been over the last year compared to the president that he was, you know, in his whole first term and even early in this term, where I've never really seen him at a point where he's just kind of like, I'm tanking in the approval numbers. I'm at my lowest approval ever, and I don't care, like, I don't care whether or not this is getting back. He's openly saying he doesn't care about the economy, he doesn't care about these things. He's just kind of like, he's there there, doesn't it. You know, when. When I saw that he said the exact words that Tucker Carlson told me he said in that meeting and that it was just, in a sense, I mean, look, I guess this is. Maybe this is not exactly 1000% proof, but like, when Tucker says he said this phrase and then he posts the exact phrase, you're like, oh, yeah, he did say that. Okay, not. Not 100%, but, like, 99.9%, obviously. And then I'm going, okay, Tucker was literally telling the exact truth about that. And I just think about what Tucker told me about, like, the times that he met with Trump, and there was something really eerie about it. And by the. Tucker, I'm not revealing something private. He's talked about this publicly, but we've talked about it in private as well, that he was like. He's like, you know, like, Tucker gets it. And Tucker's, you know, you know, that, like, just knowing who Tucker is, that, like, you know, when he went in there, I mean, he was pleading with Donald Trump. He was literally there, like, trying to do whatever he can. And so he's making all of the arguments, you know, and he's going, sir, these are the risks. This is going to. He said, this is going to destroy your presidency. This is going to destroy your coalition. This is going to destroy your legacy. Like, this is going to. This is what's going to happen. And really, I mean, Tucker, you know, predicted very, you know, close to accurately what was going to happen. And what Tucker said was that it was like Trump kind of conceded the argument. He was like, I know, I know, but we're doing it and it'll work out. And, like, it always works out. And there's something kind of. And Tucker himself said, and somebody who's very close with Donald Trump, he said, he goes. He's, like, different. He's changed. And I don't know what, you know, I'm not sure. Does that doesn't, like, prove that he's blackmailed or something like that. But it does seem, for whatever reason, he has gotten to a place where he's just kind of like, look, my hands were tied on this one. I get what you're saying, but we're just gonna do it and whatever. It'll all work out. Looks like I'm probably not going to heaven, but, like, you know, whatever. But just just to keep in mind, right, you know, when people say that every other president resisted the pressure for this war, you know, this is kind of open now, Rob. This has become like, a completely accepted by all factions, including both of the Secretaries of State under Barack Obama. Joe Biden has confirmed this. The Secretaries of State. I don't know if Obama himself has, but certainly a lot of people around him that, you know, all these other presidents that Benjamin Netanyahu is always trying to get you to overthrow the government of Iran, which is kind of easy to believe. He's testified before Congress that we should do it. Why wasn't he also testifying before presidents in private that we should do it? But just keep in mind that in that list of presidents who resisted the pressure to be pulled into this war, that also includes Trump in his first four years. And there were several, you know, when you just had mentioned this drone that just got shot down and the dispute is over whether it was over Iranian territory or international waters. This exact same thing happened in Trump's first term. And they tried to suck him into the war there. And then they got him into the Soleimani strike. And after the Iranians responded, they tried to suck him into the war there, but he managed to resist it. You know, this second term, something changed. And, man, did he make a big mistake. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Brunt Workwear. I love this company. They, when they first came on as a sponsor, they sent me a pair of their boots. And I love them. They are my work boots. And I got a big property here and there's always grass to be mowed or snow to be shoveled, depending on the year. And I need a good pair of work boots. And I will tell you what I love about these. And it's, it's, as I've told you several times, it was always the deal that if you wanted a good, durable pair of work boots, they were going to be brutally uncomfortable. And then if you got a comfortable pair of boots, they weren't going to hold up to a tough job. And Brunt absolutely solved that problem. These are sturdy boots. They hold up whatever the job you're doing, you're going to be in good shape. And they, I mean this, the first time I put them on, they felt like a worn in pair of sneakers. You can actually wear these boots to work, beat them up, put in real hours, and your feet aren't going to be in agony afterwards. So definitely go check them out. There's no doubt they're the most, most comfortable work boots I've ever worn. Brunt was tired of the workwear brands out there cutting corners. You work too hard to be stuck in uncomfortable boots that don't hold up. So they built something better. Boots that are insanely comfortable and built for any job site. And for a limited time, our listeners can get 10 bucks off at Brunt when they use the promo code problem at checkout. Just head to bruntworkware.com use that promo code problem and you're good to go. That's bruntworkware.com promo code problem for $10 off. All right, let's get back into the show.
- [26:29]
B
Yeah, well, it's that part of Donald Trump, which is a bit of a baby, but it's. It's my way in the highway. I need for loyalty, I need everyone on board. And I guess my read is it seems like he's got to be blackmailed or something's happening here. But there is just the element of Donald Trump's own hubris. And he got into this thing and he's not leaving without a win. And we're just kind of seeing everything kind of play out from there.
- [26:55]
A
And that is the. The Jonathan Pape escalation trap. You know, that essentially you gotta get a win, and that's what keeps. You know, it's like your foot's in the quicksand, and you're like, I gotta pull it out with my hand. Now your hand and foot are in the quicksand, so you gotta pull it out with your other hand and you got, you know, and you just keep getting sucked into it. I do. Rob, I kind of have to take a second here, which, as you know, this has become in some ways, like something that I just can't. I don't know, I can't stop talking about lately. But it's just so, you know, blatantly egregious. But the. The Trump supporting influencers, I mean, I. I mean, look, I guess you could. I'm sure you could make a comparison, but it's almost. I guess I would compare them to almost like the way I felt about woke late night TV show hosts through the rise of wokeism, where you'd almost look at these people who, you know, you had kind of previously, whatever you thought of Jimmy Kimmel or Stephen Colbert or, you know, some of these guys, even, like, even some of the people like Rachel Maddow and stuff like that. But, like, no matter what you had thought of them in previous iterations, you probably would have recognized them as, like, human beings. You know, they're human beings with souls and thoughts and opinions and whatever. And then you would just watch them, like, just toe the party line, even when the party line became the most ridiculous shit ever, and you just, like, kind of like lose respect for them. But some of the, I mean, dude, listening to, like, Scott Jennings and Jack Pacabiak and Will Chamberlain and some of these guys, literally, the Axios Report comes out on Thursday that were close to a deal, and they all immediately take to social media. Historic win For Donald Trump, he did it against all of the naysayers. Weaves like they on the sixth go around of this, when they've been burned five times in the last, you know, eight weeks, they still just right away jump on board trying to sell the message when it is so obviously going to blow up in their face in two days. And then they'll just go about their days like nothing happened. I mean, dude, there's. Pull up some of these. It's a. I think I bookmarked a couple of them. Scott Jennings looks like a huge win for President Trump and the US Hearing from a senior admin official. This report is true. All capital letters, T R U E. True. And the US Appears to be getting everything we want. Three days ago, Rob, Everything we want. Do you know what we actually ended up getting robbed? Nothing. Now there's. For some of the more astute listeners, there's a pretty large gap in between everything we want and absolutely nothing. Absolutely nothing. And Scott Jennings will just, literally, these people, he will be just as smug today as he was the day that he announced that, you know, he will sit there with his suit and his smile and sit across the room, be like, I know exactly what's going to happen here. You guys worried about. About this are all being ridiculous and pretend that that didn't. That he just wasn't that completely wrong. It's. It's. I don't know what to say. And look, dude, all these guys and some of them, like, I never even had nothing against, you know, Jack Besabiak and. Or some of these guys, but it's just like, how can you not just look at this and go, you guys are like, you're essentially Colbert doing a vaccine dance right now. Dude, I'm sorry, I know there's slightly different topics, but what is this other than just, hey, the orders came down today. This is the story we're going with today. And we're going to try our best to con as many people into believing this. What are you doing? It's a historic victory. Your fucking president lied you into a war on behalf of the Israel lobby, and he's lied to you a million times since. He's a bumbling retard. He is just. This is a level of humiliation that George W. Bush and Barack Obama never did to themselves while conducting a war. Is where Donald Trump is at this point announcing Bridge and Power Plant day, announcing that war is over. Now, there's a deal now. And every last one of them turns out to not be true. I don't know, Rob, it's unbelievable to see people like this propaganda is a
- [31:52]
B
nice paycheck and that's why they get paid the big bucks. And it's not like any of them are going to lose their jobs over it. So, you know, they can keep on. They. I, like we've said before, you might as well just listen to the press secretary. What's the point of these people.
- [32:04]
A
Yes.
- [32:04]
B
If they're just repeating whatever's coming from them with no critical thought and just selling it.
- [32:10]
A
Yeah, that's exactly right. Exactly right. I mean it's. I remember there was a, you know, I just watched a segment on the, the Young Turks. It was. Anna Kasparian did a segment and she did like a deep dive on one of the, I want to say Emily Austin, one of the, like, she's like one of the young blonde girls who's just like a professional Hasbro peddler. And you know, I've like, like I was on a Piers Morgan panel with her once and I know Scott Horton was on a Piers Morgan panel with her once and I knew that she was kind of infamously, she was one of the influencers in the Netanyahu, you know, when he was talking about the acquisition of Tick Tock and all that. She's one of the seven thousand Dollar Club people or whatever. And. But then Anna goes through this whole thing. I didn't know any of this about her, but Ada goes through this whole thing where it's like, oh no, dude. She was like, this chick is like inoperative. Like, she had admitted to being a spokesman for the government of Israel. She was like, defined herself as like a Hasbro spreader, like pre October 7th and all this. She was friends with like highest level Likud party members and was repped by the agency that reps all of these like Hasbro. Like, like she's like, oh, you're, you're something much more approaching a foreign spy than I actually realized. But anyway, so there's literally aside. So I just saw this. But there's only two things I know about her that she just had these moments. So she had one moment where she was debated Scott Horton and she had one moment where she debated me. And in one of them she, she fucking. Scott goes off on this whole rant about the difference between uranium and plutonium bombs and the actual logistics of like building a bomb. And then she responded by saying something about, you just don't understand how dangerous Khomeini is. And then Scott goes, he's been dead for decades. And then she goes like. Like, she literally just like, you just thought the first Ayatollah was still the guy who ruled Iran. And Scott was like, he died in, like, the 70s. Blah, blah, blah, whatever. Scott also, of course, knew the month in the year that he died and the manner. But, like. And then she just scoffed. Like, it was just. And then I had a moment with her. This is out. She's literally like a chick who, like, I think it's almost like, if it makes sense, like, she was like the pothead at Hasbro University. Like, she didn't go to class that much, but she remembers a couple things that she heard there was. So when I was debating her, she goes, at one point, there's a clip of this. It went kind of viral on the Internet. But at one point she goes just like, well, I don't know. I mean, you describe, you know, Israel as an occupying force, but how come you never say anything about Egypt occupying Palestine or Jordan occupying Palestine? And I was like, well, the reason why I don't really focus on the Egyptian occupation of Gaza or the Jordanian occupation of the west bank is because they Both ended in 1967. Oh, okay. She's like. She just, like, she knew somewhere that, like, that was a talking point of some sort. But, like, she didn't realize what. You know what I mean? Like. Like, she didn't even know, like, how to say it. Anyway. This chick is like a real deal, like, one of their people that they put out there that they. And you're just like, I don't know. There's something about it where it's like, oh, you guys really were always this bad at this. It's just that you had the system rigged, and that's really seems to be what's, you know, kind of coming apart about this. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is ultra Pouches, the ultimate guilt free pouch. It is completely nicotine free, caffeine free. It's packed with nootropics that are designed for mental clarity and enhanced focus. So you get the same kick as a nicotine pouch, but without the side effects, the buzz, the addiction, crash jitters, anything like that. Most pouches elevate cortisol, raise blood pressure, and keep your body in a constant stress state. But ultra pouches let you keep your pouches but with a cleaner kick. So if you're looking for a pouch, I'm a big pouch guy. I believe in the pouch revolution. Now, if you're looking for a Pouch that you don't have to feel guilty about. Definitely Check out Ultra. 90% of users saw significant improvements in their overall focus levels. Calm, steady flow state focused, enhanced memory, smooth energy, mood, balance, all with zero nicotine and all natural nootropics. Trusted by top athletes, entrepreneurs and engineers around the world, Ultra is the ultimate guilt free pouch, delivering instant focus and mental clarity without nicotine or caffeine. And new customer customers can use the promo code problem to get 15 off at take ultra.com that's take ultra.com and for 15 off. Use the promo code problem one more time. Take ultra.com promo code problem for 15 off. All right, let's get back into the show. Anyway, speaking of the young Turks, did you see that? Now I got. Tomorrow Cenk Uygur is coming on the show.
- [37:30]
B
Oh, fun.
- [37:31]
A
But, yeah, which I'm, I'm very interested to talk to him about this and some other things.
- [37:34]
B
Things.
- [37:35]
A
But did you see. Evidently Jane Huger got. He's banned from the United Kingdom. He was going over there, I guess they were doing like a South by Southwest thing and he was giving a speech at Oxford or something. Maybe it was Oxford, I don't remember.
- [37:49]
B
Just for the sake of accuracy, I'm not sure if it's a permanent ban or they just denied him entry. Well, they denied him entry particular occasion.
- [37:56]
A
Fair enough, but yet.
- [37:57]
B
And unclear if he wanted to go as a tourist for a different occasion. If they would approve it. But stewardship, sure. Okay.
- [38:04]
A
I mean, that's fair. That's a fair point. Yes, yes. No, but I, but still, I mean, it's pretty wild to think that, like, wait, now the United Kingdom is, is barring Americans from traveling there due to their opinion of Israel. I mean, geez, again, it's just like you, you, I don't know, it's like all of the goddamn Zionist propaganda over the last few years, even this one, you almost sit there and just go, all right, who do you think that's a bigger win for ultimately, right? Like, okay, yes, you denied Cenk speaking at one gig. Like, and there's also something kind of like by the nature of podcasting that it's like, okay, yes, he doesn't get to speak live to like a thousand people or something, but now he gets to go back to his gigantic platform and talk about it to like a million people who. You know what I mean? Including probably all the people there. Unless you're going to ban the Internet in the United Kingdom, then you know you're going to have a problem. And so Anyway, it's just like. Oh, you just. You just clearly make it look like what it is, that you're trying to silence dissent and that somehow one foreign country is off limits for criticism, which really is insane when you think about it. I mean, we don't even think about these things. When I say all types of criticism of the. Of English policy, British policy on, you know, arresting people for tweets and Muslim rape gangs and crazy like, immigration policies. See all types of criticism of America from every single angle. See criticism of every country, and yet there's just this one that is like. It's a. It's a criminal act of sorts to criticize them. How do you think this helps you guys? It's just like. It's unbelievable how bad they are at propaganda.
- [40:06]
B
Well, they're atrocious of propaganda, but they're very good at the actual government legislation side of things. And they, you know, are decent at the Internet censorship with purchasing TikTok. I mean, and generally speaking, they're losing the war. But I think this falls into the old world mentality a little bit of. If you buy your media and opinions from official channels, this does boost, like, the credibility of, oh, this guy's dangerous. This person's so dangerous, the UK wouldn't let him in for a speech. And, you know, you accumulate enough of these, like, badges of this person's dangerous, or look at how. Look how dangerous his perspective is. In an old world that could kind of work to trick normies, that this person either needs to be censored, is actually a dangerous person, has radical opinions, et cetera, et cetera. In the podcast landscape, that's just not working. And I guess in that regard, you know, they're still. They're still trying old tricks. Think about it. Twenty years ago, if you heard, oh, wow, there's an American media broadcaster saying things so horrible the UK won't let him in. And you can't actually go, you know what I mean? You can't readily access his materials. You might go, wow, that guy must be a real horrible person. Like, that could have worked on you. It doesn't work now. But, yeah, you know, who knows? Who knows what? More censorship they can pair it with, though, and suddenly it starts, look, you're right.
- [41:23]
A
You're absolutely right. I mean, that's the dynamic, right, is that they're no good at this propaganda campaign outside of the controlled environment. They're still good at it for the age of people who don't get their media from, you know, alternative media sources. And so they can still convince boomers with Fox News propaganda. But, yeah, it's just so bad. They just die a sudden. Like a. Like a human being who's put in outer space without a spacesuit or something like that. You're just like. You are not evolved to survive in this environment. And that's. It's that simple. However, in the environment of getting laws passed and wielding power, they're, you know, they're in their element. And perhaps the inverse is true about us, that we're human beings in outer space when it comes to that environment.
- [42:11]
B
And luckily, in this case, they're not. I mean, for. I don't mean luckily, they're not gonna have to own it because they. I think the official reason was it was against the public good. I don't know that they further explained that. I saw somewhere, I guess, that it was that there's already too much anti Semitism in the country, but typically speaking, you know, Donald Trump might go, who the fuck do you think you are? And then you're gonna tell us our people can't come into your country and give speeches. But in this case, Donald Trump has no interest in that. And so. And I, you know, I don't live in England, so I don't know to what extent their propaganda or censorship laws are working on the general population. So, you know, might not. Might not help their case in this country, but maybe it's working over there.
- [42:50]
A
Yeah, yeah. And we'll see. No, it is interesting. Like, I even said the. There was someone. I don't know, it was like the Chief Financial Officer or something like that at Daily Wire came at me the other day, called me retarded on Twitter. And then I just.
- [43:07]
B
I literally just, hey, Chief Financial Officer, look at your numbers.
- [43:11]
A
Yeah, well, I said. I said something like, send the best guy you got from the collapsing Daily Wire. Let's see how I am. And then I said, oh, yeah, that's right. All of you are. None of you will come. Because, you know, I'm just. This is. At this point, I'm just. This is what I'm on with the Daily Wire guys when they talk about me anymore. Okay, yeah, just like, enough. You guys have talked. Every last one of your biggest hosts have talked about me. Not one of you are willing to come see me. So, like. Like that. That's just it. Then shut up or. And move on or come do it and see what's up. But. But, I mean, it's not even like they sent one of their guys. It's just like, the cheat. He doesn't have like a Twitter. This was just, everyone's just trashing them and you're like, I can't believe you guys can't even, how do you guys not come up with like a company strategy here? You'd be like, don't just have a random account, throw pot shots here. But anyway, I did want to talk about what he claimed was so retarded because I, you know, we, we mentioned this a little bit, but I just think even as the dust settled, I, I had made. It was one of the clips from when I recorded with Liam McCollum where I, I had basically said, you know, like, I really think Thomas Massie could do something huge by running for president here. Like, I mean, I think he's got a great track. And I got into an argument on Twitter with Oren McIntyre about this and who I like very much, but I really disagree with him on this. But every, you know, it's funny because people want to like laugh this off, like, oh, that's ridiculous. And essentially it seems like all they have to say is that, hey, you lost a primary in Kentucky, so obviously that you can't win the presidency. And I gotta say, I just, I'm kind of shocked by what. But like, it's just such a low resolution analysis of the real dynamics that are going on here. It's like, ok, first of all, Thomas Massie didn't just lose a primary. Thomas Massie won seven consecutive primaries by huge margins in this district. And then only after the absolute full court press of more money from the Israel lobby pumped in than has ever been pumped into a congressional campaign ever. A full Fox News blockout. The President going on a rampage, sending the Secretary of War to go give speeches. Only after a full court press did they manage to unseat him. And all it really worked to do was was work on the boomers. It just made the younger people love him even more. Now, several things are true here that's going to be very hard to scale to a presidential race. Okay? I mean, you do the math on it, Rob, but like, even someone like Miriam Adelson could send $32 million into a little district in Kentucky. But like, you can't send $32 million into every little district in the United States of America. I don't know exactly what the math on that would be, but you're talking about like this, this is going to be in the billions or tens of billions of dollars. That's a different proposition. And again, the Fox News blackout is one thing for a, a You know, small congressional primary race, but a presidential race, that's a whole different thing. You tell me, do you see a world where Thomas Massie runs for president and he isn't doing the, the all the podcast circuit and just doing huge, huge shows constantly? It's going to be very, very hard for even Fox News these days to block that out. And then you go, Rob, look, dude, the fucking. At least according to the, that latest Daily Mailer piece, who knows they're saying JD Vance isn't even gonna run. I'm pretty convinced that Marco Rubio is going to be the fucking. The nominee that's backed by the administration and the establishment. Because, you know, just think about it, Rob, who really makes the decisions here, but it seems to me like it's Miriam Adelson. And if Miriam Adelson is really making the decisions or at least has a lot of influence, I think Marco Rubio ends up being the one, not J.D. vance, who they get behind. And you know, unlike most presidents, Donald Trump has not committed to. I'll support my vice president. So anyway, you're telling me, dude, Marco Rubio, little weird looking, uncharismatic. Marco Rubio is going to run in a Republican primary against a major America first anti Israel lobby, you know, proponent of exposing deep state criminality, Thomas Massie. I think everything about the voting patterns of the Republicans over the last decade suggests that he'd be, he would have a serious lane that he owns there. I don't know, people are saying this, I think this is like he's the guy and it's the best thing we could hope for right now.
- [48:14]
B
Yep. I, I think, listen, these people are just being dismissive. It's the same crap as the Donald Trump thing. And so, you know, they're trying to pretend, hey, you're a bunch of losers, like this thing's over. But I mean, in the general elections you gotta capture more than just the 30% of hardcore Republicans that are completely locked in with Trump. And Trump's gonna be gone anyways. I don't think anyone really picks up just the MAGA title. Donald Trump did run on being anti war. He ran on a lot of America. First things, if you're Marco Rubio, you're now the old school Republic establishment who, if anything, guided Donald Trump into all the things you were hoping this administration wouldn't be. And then you got the guy who fought for the Epstein transparency, talked out against this war, has talked out against these, you know, changes to food with the glyphed and the, then the other Stuff. I just think every single talking points in Massie's favor, and he's got more of an opportunity for independence for reaching Democrats. I mean, if you end up with like a Newsom or an aoc, I could see a lot of Democrats just preferring with Thomas Massie's running on, so.
- [49:21]
A
Absolutely.
- [49:22]
B
I, I, it's just, it's the same cheerleading, dismissive stupidity of these people, of just, hey, look, he lost in Kentucky. Can't possibly. All right, well, I think that was the, almost the entire point was, wow, they managed to rig this tiny district because he got a bunch of old people and spent this much money. That's. You're not, you're, you're not contending with what we're actually saying, which is this guy is more popular than what that reflects, and you might have even given him a boost in terms of running on the national stage.
- [49:50]
A
Absolutely. You know, and I would just add to that, and this looks, first off, Thomas Massie's a young man. He's not starting to run for president the age Ron Paul is. I mean, he could, Thomas Massey could have multiple runs in him if he wanted to. And I do think, and I'd even, you know, I don't want to overstate something here, so maybe I'll even ask Natalie to, like, check if we can get numbers on this. But something that is going to become a factor here is that boomers are dying and they're not, like, all going to be gone. But I mean, I literally just mean this, like, maybe not even by 28, but, like, by 32. How many boomers are less? Are we going to have, like, Natalie Google, how many boomers die each year in America? Curious what the number is for that right now. Right. Because it's got to be like, I'm just saying, like, there might be millions less people in that category of voters and millions more people in the young people category of, of voters. Now, obviously, the boomers show up at a higher rate still, but still, if you're peeling off millions of people, like, that's going to make a pretty big difference. And, you know, there, there's, you know, if you were looking at, again, 28 is a long way off. And so who knows what, what can happen between here and now. But if you're looking at candidates, like, on the Democratic side, as you mentioned here, like AOC or Gavin Newsom or even if you saw like a wild card, like a Stephen A. Smith type or something like that, but if you, you know, you could consider maybe Bobby Kennedy running again, but, but I just don't think there's any energy behind that at this point. And Thomas Massie being a legit, no fooling critic of the Israel lobby, the warfare state, the Epstein class, like all of this with all the street cred in the world, I think would have massive appeal amongst some left wing people, even young liberal people, like all types of, you know, there, there really could be like a huge coalition that could be found there. You know, the country is not at all where the boomer Republicans are. 5,000 a day are dying right now. All right. Oh man, that's going to be a lot of, a lot of math to get to what I wanted to. Yeah, so like, I mean, look, maybe this is more a factor by, in 32 or, or 36 or something like that, but it's still something to keep your eye on. And I don't know. Yeah, like, like you said, people are just being dismissive. But the truth is this is the guy taking the America first position on every last one of these issues. And every last one of the issues that he's running on are widely popular with the, or excuse me, I should say every last issue that got him into so much trouble are actually issues where the overwhelming majority of the people are with him.
- [52:51]
B
My, my, my quick math is that's close to 4 million less boomers by the time the next election comes around.
- [52:57]
A
And 1.8 million a year is what they're saying. Yeah, so that's right around there.
- [53:02]
B
And what's, what was the winning margin of most elections? It's not 4 million people.
- [53:06]
A
Yeah, yeah. No, I mean that's a huge, you know, you peel, you peel off a few million boomers and Republican primaries move a little bit like if you, if you had peeled off a percentage of boomers in, in his congressional district. That changes everything. And one of the other things is that this kind of, this kind of political martyrdom that, you know, in a, you know, metaphorical sense, Thomas Massey, Thomas Massie has been put in, this actually made him more popular with the younger people. So like his, his numbers were higher than ever before with young people. He is maybe the most popular political figure amongst young people in the country right now. And that's always a powerful thing because look, it is true that young people don't, don't show up to vote in as, as, like young people as a broad demographic are less of a reliable voter than boomers are. Boomers vote, vote, they will show up and vote. Young people get flaky on you. But at the same Time. You're. What any, like, national campaign needs is like, a base of energetic grassroots organizers and activists, and that is almost always exclusively young people or overwhelmingly young people, because those are the people who have the passion and the time to do something like that. Whereas older people got, like, families and mortgages and shit. And it's harder for them to join a political campaign or, you know, phone bank or knock on doors or do stuff like that or make viral social media content. You need young people that. That young energy for that, and he's going to have that in spades. And the other thing about Thomas Massie, man, is that, look, there's a reason why his opponent refused to debate him. And you know what I mean? Like, Thomas Massey is good at that. He's good at explaining things. He's good at exposing bad guys. He's good on a microphone. He's good at doing a podcast. Like, he's a good messenger of a lot of these points. And yeah, I mean, I just think, like, I'd look at that and think there's enormous potential in, in. In a Thomas Massey run. And I think that, listen, I'm not even saying, like, essentially what I said the other day in that clip was that I go, he could win. He could win this. But even if he doesn't, this wouldn't be something like a Ron Paul run or a Pat Buchanan run in terms of how big it is. It would be. It would be something like a Bernie Sanders run. It would be like a. Like as if the Libertarians would have their Bernie Sanders moment at the very least. I think if Thomas Massie ran, which would mean, like, it'd be this enormous thing. It'd have a ton of energy behind it. There'd be a ton of young people. It would get the message out to, like, millions of people and really, quite possibly change the trajectory of, of where people's political, you know, world views head. And then in, you know, look, I mean, whenever you're looking at these things, it's going to be a grassroots base of support that support Thomas Massie, and it's going to be the powerful and the wealthy who oppose him. And, okay, power and money tends to win out in American politics, but not always. And that. That doesn't mean he can't win, and it doesn't mean he couldn't do something really huge that could really, I mean, I think, help shape the future of the country. So I'm all about it. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Ridge. I love the Ridge wallet. I've been using it for years. I used to be, I actually started when they came on as a sponsor back in the day and they sent me one. I had always been a traditional leather wallet guy, but, you know, the more you think about it, it really makes no sense. You really don't need a brick throwing your spine out of alignment. All you really need is something that holds your cash and your cards. And the Ridge wallets are just really cool. They're all made from premium materials like aluminum, titanium and carbon fiber. They have over 50 colors and styles to choose from. All Ridge products have a lifetime warranty. So it's literally the last wallet you'll ever have to buy. And it gives you peace of mind knowing that you have RFID blocking technology keeping you safe from digital pickpocketers. Ridge has over 100,000 5 star reviews and they have it for a reason. Go check them out for yourself. If you're looking to get a gift for the man who's difficult to get gifts for, this is perfect. It's like a game changing wallet that's a conversation piece and it's really cool. And for a limited time, our listeners can get 10 off at Ridge by using the promo code POTP10 at checkout. Just head to ridge.com and use that promo code POTP10 and you're all set. One more time, ridge.com promo code POTP10 for 10 off. All right, let's get back into the show. I'm all about trying to get him to do that.
- [57:58]
B
I certainly hope he does it because it's exciting and I'd like to see that story play out. And perhaps we're so enamored by him, we expect him to do better than he'll actually do and that, that certainly is a possibility. I'm not always the best gauge of other people's stupidity and their interest. There's a lot of things that the general population really loves that I don't understand. Taylor Swift being just one example. But, you know, I, I'm excited for it. I want to see it happen. And if it turns out that that's not the vehicle for changing the government, you know, I won't take it as a personal loss, but I think there's enough, there's enough to work with there that I think it's a legitimate possibility and it would be a missed opportunity if it's not tried.
- [58:44]
A
Yeah. And I would just say to, you know, to libertarians, to people who, you know, with whatever is Libertarians at the moment, I kind of think are, like, stronger than we've ever been in terms of having, like, a cultural presence in the national conversation. And there is a certain degree of, like, I think that in the, in the online world right now, particularly when it comes to, like, foreign policy, government corruption, things like that, you're almost like, you kind of have to come through a lot of these ideas at this point, whereas it used to be that people were able to just ignore them. Them. And we have, you know, just. We have more figures with big shows doing big things than we've ever had before. Obviously, the state of the party is a bit of a mess and, you know, but we've got. There's the Free State Project in New Hampshire, which has been able to do a bunch of things, really, honestly, been very incredibly successful so far. There's been major, like, homeschooling movements. We've got huge podcasts that a lot of people listen to. We've. We've had local wins with things like Defend the Guard and, you know, like, we. But literally, I think almost every libertarian right now would recognize that. Literally. And I mean, no, with all of those things that I just mentioned, so much of what we have, not saying everything, but so much of what we have is because Ron Paul ran for president twice. Like, this is just a fact that. And Rob, you know this very well. Right? Right. If you go into almost any libertarian thing now, this is a little bit. It's not a completely honest sample survey. You are you, after all. But if you go into almost all these libertarian things and you were to say, like, hey, show of hands, how many people are here because they found libertarianism through Ron Paul, were introduced to these ideas or converted, it's going to be a huge percentage. And I'm not saying it's everyone, but it's going to be. Be a third of the whole movement or something like that. You know, I, I mean, I, I think. I have almost no doubt in my mind that, like, the Free State Project would be much weaker if Ron Paul hadn't run for president. Like, a lot of people learned about it that way and then found out about the Free State Project and then moved there. A lot of people wouldn't be doing the Ron Paul homeschool curriculum, obviously, if they hadn't found through Ron Paul. I'm like, so. So again, these were presidential campaigns where he lost, where he didn't have the youth or all of the technological and media advantages that Thomas Massie has. From, from my perspective, looking at it like that it's like, if we think that, like having a stronger pre. Like having more libertarians, having a stronger presence of people with libertarian ideas, if you think that that might be helpful toward the end of a more free society, which it seems to me obviously has to be part of it. It. I don't see. I don't see anything we could do that would be like more bang for your buck than have one of our best guys with an amazing track record standing on the most important issues and just being right about all of them and exposing. Who knows? I mean, he could expose tens of millions of people to these ideas. So I'm all for it. I think it's. It's absolutely worth doing. And if he's willing to do it, it, man, we could make some noise, dude.
- [62:14]
B
A Massey Rubio debate in the primaries would be. Just be so great.
- [62:19]
A
I mean, dude, what. And, and, and think this through for me, you know, like, really play this out. Like, okay, they. If, if it ends up being Marco Rubio versus Thomas Massey, which, look, no guarantee it will, but that seems like the most likely at right now to me. All right, I get it. I get Rubio's gonna have the Adelson money and Rubio's gonna have the establishment. But like, like, yeah, Rob, what happens if he has to see him in a debate, like, really get up there and defend this war in Iran in a couple years? No, it was really great that we did that. We had to, like. Okay. And all Thomas Massie, you know, has to do is like, let me tell you what we're going to do. Everything Donald Trump said, except this time we mean it. Except this time we're not going to sell you out. Out. We're done fighting these wars. America is not fighting stupid unwinnable wars anymore. And I actually mean it because I'm Thomas Massie and you know the Epstein files. My first order as president is going to be to have the CIA and the NSA declassify everything they have. We're going to force the Justice Department to give us the other 3 million files. And you know what we're doing JFK and 911 too. We're going through all of this. I mean, drain the swamp. When I say that that's the difference between me and Donald Trump. I mean drain the swamp. And you know what Drain the swamp means? Ending the printing money machine. And you know what all these Democrats call unaffordability? Hey, let me talk to you, our Democratic friends. That is called monetary policy. That's what you're talking about. This is what happens when you devalue your currency. You know, all those stupid wars we fought, we can't afford them, and we couldn't tax you enough or borrow enough from them. So we've just been printing the money. And that's why none of you can afford to live anymore. I mean, there's a pretty big lane there for that, wouldn't you say? You know, Orrin McIntyre again, who I like, but he said to me on Twitter, he goes, oh, Dave, you guys are so delusional. Like, you'll never learn. It's just like, I had to tell the desantis people. And you're like, dude, Desantis. Desantis had to try to take the throne from Donald Trump while he was being persecuted by the Democratic administration before he had betrayed his entire voter base. Thomas Massey is going up against little Marco. Little Marco Rubio has run for president before. Do you know how he did? He fell flat on his face. This is. He's much more comparable to Kamala Harris. You know, like, Trump is Barack Obama, Marco Rubio is Kamala Harris. There's no comparison between trying to take the throne from those two people. Well, it's a totally different lane. And also, DeSantis was running essentially in the pro war lane against Donald Trump, refusing to speak out against the war in Ukraine, and then totally capitulating to everything having to do with Israel. So I'm sorry, these two things are not the same. I think you're missing the bigger themes right now. Like, you know, do you know how much desire there is for a serious presidential candidate who's critical of Israel, critical of the US Relationship with Israel and critical of the wars we fight over them? You know how much, like, desire there is for that right now? Who's the other serious one who's going to fill that lane? You. You explain that to me. You're telling me there's this wide open lane. The majority of the country wants this, and nobody's going to fill this lane. Okay, but what happens when one person does. No, just saying. What happened when one person filled the we don't want illegal immigration lane? It was pretty big. All right, we're going to wrap up on that. See you guys this weekend in Toronto and other places where Rob Bernstein will
- [66:03]
B
be porch tour.com Burnett, New York, Byron, Michigan, Pittsburgh, and then White Bear Lake, Minnesota, port store dot com.
- [66:11]
A
Hell, yeah. All right, catch you guys tomorrow. Peace. Every day as a small business owner feels like solving a puzzle. One moment you're cruising along, and the next there's a shipping snag that has you scrambling. But here's a surprise you will with Progressive Small business owners save 13% on their commercial auto insurance when they pay in full. So go ahead, surprise yourself. Get a quote in as little as 8 minutes@progressive commercial.com progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates. Discounts not available in all states or situations. Ever wonder who's out there making the world go round? It's truckers. Who unites baristas with coffee beans? Truckers. Who unites dogs with their favorite chew toy? Truckers. That's why Progressive offers truckers even more protection with cargo. Plus coverage to keep truckers moving right along. Quote Truck insurance today in as little as 8 minutes@progressivecommercial.com progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates. Coverage subject to policy terms, limits and conditions not yet available in California, New York and Virginia.