Dave Smith (40:48)
You know, look, I completely agree with everything you're saying. And I would just add that, you know, look, as Noam Chomsky said, I really think he got this right, was he was like, the only coherent definition of terrorism is that it's terrorism when they do it and it's counterterrorism when we do it. You know, like, you want to sit here and say that, like, I don't know, invading Iraq wasn't terrorism, or you want to say that us dropping drone bombs on weddings in Yemen is not terrorism. Like, okay, but really, all you're left with is like, well, because it was done by us and by a government. And what, therefore it's not terrorism. You want to say that the IDF isn't a terrorist organization. Again, there's no. Just, like, give me the objective definition and you explain to me what it is. What is it targeting civilians? What do you think? By the way, this is one of the things I was arguing with this lady about the other day, which is so crazy, is that she's. I think I'm going to mention this on the show yesterday, but that she's arguing that, oh, it wasn't up for Israel to. To not let any food in because Hamas had the food and they were just hoarding. It. And you're like, right, so then who are you keeping the food from? Not Hamas. You're targeting the civilian population. By the way, there's been. I mean, if you want to go through, like, go to antiwar.com and just search. Through the last two years, there's been example after example after example where civilians were targeted. I mean, civilians rushing to get aid, getting shot at, children being snipered. You know, like, all types of examples of civilians being targeted. And so, you know, what this comes down to in a weird way is that it's like, in order to have the worldview that every single, like, Israel supporter has, in order to have it, as I've been making this case for almost two years now, and I think I've, you know, like, done a pretty good job of demonstrating it. You have to, on some level believe that, like, the Palestinian life is just worth less, if it's worth anything at all. It's just not worth as much as Israel. And you can see this in the rhetoric where, look, even these. These two people, you know, in D.C. let's say, who got killed, and right after it, it's like the way people flip out, like, and. And rightfully so. I mean, like, two fucking people got killed. It's goddamn horrible. Like, those were real people. You know what I mean? Like, they were as real as any of us were. They had people who loved them. They have people who are. Are still grieving, who will never be made whole because these two people were taken out of their lives. It's horrible. But from the perspective of, like, all of us, we're like, yeah, that's why we're against this policy, because, like, so many people are being killed. But they don't see it that way. Like, they don't. They just don't. But the I. The problem is that, like, even if you don't see it that way, if you just think Israeli life is more valuable than Palestinian life, American life is more valuable than Palestinian life, okay? But you have to at least recognize that not everyone's going to look at it that way, particularly Palestinians, but a lot of people around the world just are not going to look at it that way. It's not the most. Listen, I understand where, say, Jewish people have more feeling toward Israel than they do toward other countries. I understand why Americans care more about Americans than they do about foreigners. I understand why, you know, Christian Europeans might have more of a connection to other Christian Europeans or to Americans or Canadians or whatever. There's like, a little bit of a shared culture and history there. But then at the same token, if you're going to say that, then what do you think? Like, wouldn't you see where, like, a random Muslim might have more of a connection to Palestinians than he has to Israelis? Anyway, I say all of this to just make the point that it's the old Ron Paul point. If you think that we can just do this to people and pay no price for it, like, that you can just engage in a goddamn genocide and fund and arm the whole thing, and that that's not going to inspire hatred and that nobody out there is going to go, well, I'm going to grab a gun and go do something about this. I think that's a very naive way to look at the world. And like. So, in effect, this isn't removing responsibility from anyone, but this is one of the costs of this policy is this type of, like, chaos. And it's not good. It's not good for anybody. All right, let's, let's, let's switch gears a little bit here, because I did want to play this video. It's a little bit maybe outside of our typical wheelhouse, but actually it kind of relates to a lot of stuff that we talk about a lot. But there was this clip of Tommy Lauren on the Laura Ingram show that's been going super viral for obvious reasons. Once you see the clip. And there's, There's. There's a lot here. I found this very interesting. It's basically, Tommy Lauren is trashing men. We're about to. Particularly young men. We're about to play the clip now. There is something about this kind of, like, the battle of the sexes type content that just gets a big reaction out of everyone. You know, there's, there's something like women venting about men is something that women tend to, like, enjoy, you know, like, oh, my God, men are trash, right? Oh, my God. Yes, men are. Everyone who's had a bad experience with a man now can, like, get on board this. And there is something that men, particularly when there's, like, an attractive woman bashing men, men love to, like, hate that content. Like, it's, it's like catnip for the sexes. And I will preface by saying that I think I've always. It's one of my biggest objections to feminism, broadly speaking. I always think the battle of the sexist is. Is wrong and bad for all of us. Like, it is just not the role. Men and women are not natural enemies. They. We are so clearly like yin and yang. We're here for each Other, we help each other. We make each other's lives better. And anytime that people are getting into this, like, no, it's all men's fault. No, it's all women's fault. I always think, like, you're just missing the point entirely. Um, but anyway, let's play the clip and then we can discuss a little bit.
