B (2:26)

Which is great. I just love him as the moderator for this debate, particularly because he is, you know, one of those figures, you know, like one of the good conservative, libertarian, you know, type figures from. From that era. And, oh, and then, of course, this weekend, Philadelphia, still some tickets available. They are moving quick, so go grab them. This Thursday, Friday and Saturday, me and Robbie the Fire Bernstein will be at Helium in Philadelphia. Really looking forward to it. Always love doing comedy in Philly. It really is just one of the best comedy towns in the city. There's something about to a good comedy town. Rob has like, a few requirements. Like, it's got to be a little bit grimy, a little bit racist, and a little, like a touch of inbreeding. You know, that's what you need for a real good comedy Philly. Don't take this the wrong way. This is a compliment. I'm complimenting you right now. Listen to me, you garbage people. This is the best you're ever gonna get. Okay, Me and Rob are coming through.

C (3:20)

That's a. That's a real basement comedy room. Low ceiling to the guilds. It's a good room.

B (3:26)

It's a great room. Well, it always been a great. You know, I used to go there all the time with featuring for Jay Okerson, like back in the day, like 15 years ago or whatever. And it was just always be excited to go to that room just because it's such a good comedy room. So anyway, really looking forward to that one.

C (3:42)

And I got a lot going on myself. Firstly, you can check out episodes Porching one and two. Also got a lot of guests lined up on Run your Mouth. Just did an episode with Brian McMilliams. Tomorrow. I've got David Column. I have him on once a year. Week after that, I'm having Gene Epstein down for Economics Breakdown. So you haven't already checked it out. Go check out the Run your Mouth podcast and the Porching series.

B (4:04)

Yeah, if you. If you like this podcast, you'll love Run youn Mouth. All you guys should be. Should be listening to it. And all those guys are great. Okay, so some updates, I guess, on the. The situation that we're in the middle of. Rob, we're in the middle of a storm. You know, I always like to call them storms because that's just what they feel like to me. But it's a weird. It's such a strange thing because I've been in this, you know, business for a while now, and they're just. They always come up, you know, like, there's that things will be normal For a while. And then, like, right when there's the thing, it's just like a different energy, and there's a different kind of, like this. This feeling that the stakes are high. And then as you get some time, it's. It's so weird how it really does remind me of a storm. It's just like. It's lightning and crazy and windy, and then all of a sudden, it's blue skies and the sun's out and everyone's calmed down. And one of the things I've just learned over the years is, like, you just. Like in that storm, you just stick to the truth. You just keep telling the truth. You know what I mean? And that's. And that always ages well. It always ages well. Like, it's. It's an amazing thing. I mean, there's been so many different MO. I remember, like, right after January 6th, when me and you were right about it. You know what I mean? Like, we were just good on it. Like, now everybody's kind of good on it. Now, if you were saying, you know, that January 6th was an insurrection or something like that, that almost sounds ridiculous. But right after it, like, the day. Oh, oh, there you go. Good comment. I didn't even realize we're recording on January 6th. It's funny, that really was not even the thought in my head, although maybe somewhere deep down in my subconscious that's why it came up. But I remember the day. I remember people telling me that I was finished. I had tanked my credibility because I was saying it wasn't an insurrection and it wasn't that big of a deal or anything. We should be, you know, like, leading a domestic war on terrorism over and, like, you know, like. But I've just been through this so many times that even by then I was like, yeah, yeah, I'm ruined. This is going to take me. You know, it's like, now you just stick to it, tell the truth, it ends up aging really well. But it's been. I don't know, it's been interesting, you know, by the way, I don't. I. I don't normally, like, just speculate on these types of matters, but I have seen in it. There's an insane thing going on on Twitter right now, Rob. And if you go. Go look through the replies to, like, any of my tweets, Venezuela, and it's like it's flooded with people defending the war without a profile picture. Like, none of them have profile pictures, and they're just all, like, mindlessly saying, like, the same thing. And I'm like, oh, that's this is boded or something. And it's not like that My, my posts get the same amount of likes and retweets as like they normally would, but then there's all these people as well as like regular people in the comments. But there's a ton of. There's just, there's a, there's a propaganda push going on right now in. Of some sort. But anyway, I guess the. What's the latest? Well, Shab Chavez Maduro faced a judge and pled not guilty. He's weirdly, he's being held in the same jail as Diddy, which is just seems like we're living in a simulation. There's just a weird, weird world. And Well, I guess the, the other big news is that the, the Justice Department as you, you said. I saw it this morning too. Rob, you sent me. I think Zero Hedge had an article about this, but it was also front page of the New York Times. They completely bailed under whole pretense that he's the leader of this, of this, this narco terrorist ring or whatever they were calling this gang. Just to be clear is. And this, this I thought was really so revealing. One of the things that's really, I guess unique about this is that it's being, it's their justification is that they're claiming essentially that this was. We were just like serving an arrest warrant. You know, it's an indictment. It's so goddamn bizarre. They're actually, they're actually trying to prosecute this guy under gun control laws in the United States of America. They're claiming that the leader of Venezuela was purchasing illegal machine guns for his military. Like that's. And by the way, I mean if you can, if you can prosecute for gun control, I mean, yeah, he had a whole military. That'd be illegal if me or you had it, Rob, but it's just so ridiculous. But I guess I just want to finish this up and then I am very curious to hear what you have to say. But the thing is now that they're doing that there is. Despite as corrupt as our justice system is in this country, there is still a system and there is a trial and you got to present evidence. And so we. What's interesting is that the Justice Department immediately had to bail on this claim that this organization even exists or that he's at the top of this gang. But Rob, this gang was officially designated a terrorist organization. So just think about that right there for a second. Like think about how little checks and Balances there are on the federal government labeling someone a terrorist organization, they can do this for an organization that once they actually have to put up, they go, oh yeah, it doesn't exist. It doesn't even exist. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is the Wellness Company. In a new peer reviewed study, research tested the blood of 34 women and men, all who received the Pfizer MRNA vaccine. 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C (10:49)

Yeah, I hate the, the terrorist designations for that exact reason of that it's a little arbitrary. And then all of a sudden you seem to lose some rights to due process, which I guess in this case there's an actual court case going on and they've rolled back. I don't think there's any fentanyl claims in the actual court case anymore. And now you've got J.D. vance talking about the problem of cocaine. Also, apparently whatever that specific terrorist group was, that's gone away. From what I understand though, they're still charging him with narco terrorism. And I guess the core of the lawsuit is that he was actually engaged in the drug trade and the gun charges, from what I understand, because it's batshit crazy to tell a world leader he's not allowed to have machine guns. It's drug charges affiliated with the drug, the drug trafficking. So it's more of just an extension crime to drug trafficking, like as a double down. Like, oh, you weren't just drug trafficking, you also had these guns that were being illegally used for that purpose.

B (11:50)

Is it not? Like, don't people just at a certain point see through it? Like one of the, you know, one of the things we've talked about a lot over the last year probably been up there with one of the top themes of the year is that Donald Trump rode this wave, the, the drain, the swamp wave in, in 2016 and then again in 2024 of like, you know, essentially telling the American people, which was a really, you know, popular message, that, hey, there's a bunch of criminals in Washington D.C. and they've committed crimes against the American people and they've destroyed our republic and I'm going to bring them to justice. You know, from the very beginning, whether it was like Hillary Clinton, lock her up or later when he was talking about the election being fixed or Russiagate being a hoax or Epstein or whatever it was, it was always, that was always like one of the major themes. And then you sit back and now, you know, we're going into his, his sixth year as President of the United States of America and nobody's being held responsible. But other government's crimes, you see, those must be prosecuted. Like, it's so funny too. Like the, even the, the term narco terrorist is, it's like this new invented term by the regime where no one is really accusing Maduro of acts of terrorism per se. It's kind of like the, the ODS are the terrorism, you know what I mean? It's almost like, oh, just dealing drugs is terrorism or something like that. But like, the actual term narco terrorist probably best applies to the CIA. Like they, they actually have a history of being both things, you know what I mean? Like, and yet none of them are ever going to be indicted for that. And these are actual Americans right here in the United States of America who actually are subject to like the US Federal code. You know what I mean? Like, it's. And, and I just, I don't know, I'm looking at this and I go, there's just how, how there's no way that enough people aren't just going to get that, like that just basic insight that it's like.

C (14:09)

And on that note, firstly, the Donald Trump administration should be embarrassed if this court case is not predominantly over fe fentanyl deaths in the United States of America, because that's what they told us. Then you got to come forward and go, we lied to, we all knew that you were lying. But now that it's actually in court, you don't want to present that case that Maduro is responsible intentionally for fentanyl deaths in the United States of America. So you were lying to us for the last six months, and JD Vance is just blanket pivot to, well, cocaine's a problem, too. Well, that's not what you guys were telling us. You were telling us that this guy's responsible for fentanyl deaths. To your CIA point, I had said, listen, this guy's not the major drug trafficker in the United States of America. So if you're going after him and not going after other people, it sounds like you are in the drug business. Sounds to me like you're just taking out one person in the drug business, which would create more business for all the other people, which has to make you wonder who the CIA might still be aligned with and in that racket.

B (15:08)

Yeah, yeah. Well, I'll say this. I've heard from a source, a source close to the White House, but I did hear from, from a source, and there's been a couple people who have been speculating about this on social media, that, that basically Donald Trump, that the vp, the current president or dictator or whatever the hell you want to call her, of Venezuela, was a collaborator with Donald Trump. And that, that. And, and it certainly, it does seem plausible, right? Like, the way that mission was carried out certainly seems like there might have been some collaborators on the inside there to make this thing happen. I mean, how, you know, how do you get a guy who's on a military base if you don't have. Without a fire, you know, like, without a crazy firefight where you're taking losses and stuff like that, unless you have collaborators on the inside. And if that is the case, if that's the case, that, you know, it would make sense that, oh, so that's why Donald Trump. Because even if Donald Trump didn't believe in the opposition there, why would he sideline them like that? You know what I mean? Like, so that would explain why this lady is still in power. The thing about that is that if it's true, of course I'm speculating here, I, I don't know this to be true for sure, but if that's true, it's, you know, that doesn't really guarantee anything either because you never know what people are going to do. I mean, people can make deals and they can say they're going to do shit, but who knows? Especially if somebody's making a deal that's going to put themselves into political power. It's always quite possible that that was really just what they wanted. And there's been situations like this. You know, we were talking about this a little before the show, but like, Fidel Castro made all types of promises to the US Regime about what he was going to do when he got into power and then didn't. And the other one that just comes to mind is Ahmed Chalabi, who was the guy who really sold the neocons on the idea of the Iraq, that the Iraq war could be really successful. And this is how you do it. If you, if you read David Wormser's I don't think he mentions Chalabi in the Clean Break Memo, but in the companion piece, Coping with Crumbling States, Chalabi's all in there. And he was the source that the New York Times, Judith Miller, relied on. He. He was like Richard Pearl and Dick Cheney and David Worms, or he was their guy. He was essentially, he was an Iraqi exile who had fled Iraq after one of the failed uprisings. I want to say I can't. I think it was at the one in the 90s, but. So he had fled Iraq and he was the one telling him, look, there's this, this, you know, this huge base of support for overthrowing Iraq. Like, we can. The people will love it. And he sold them on the whole idea of installing a Hashemite, and therefore they would have to listen to them. And, and then there's a great. I know Scott loves to bring this up, but it is a great article called How Chalabi Conned the Neocons, where they got Douglas Fife's law partner just saying all the quiet part out loud, and he's like, he was supposed to make a deal with Israel because we put him in power after the Iraq war. And then like, and then he just totally betrayed all the neocons and he wasn't going to do business with Israel. He didn't want to do that. And I think, as far as I understand, he was essentially just in it for power and money. Like, he didn't give a about that. So, anyway, just a lot of, a lot of unknowns, as Donald Rumsfeld might say here. And we'll see. We'll see what happens with any of that stuff. I'm sorry, what did you have? Want to jump in there on something, Rob, or do you want to go to JD Van? What JD Van said, let's go to JD Vance. Let's do that. You want to pull up the tweet? We could just Pull it up and look at it because maybe that would be good. All right. And we can go through all of this. So this is J.D. vance. Two days ago, he, he wrote this. You see, you see a lot of claims that Venezuela has nothing to do with drugs because most of the fentanyl comes from elsewhere. I want to address this. So, like, already, Rob.

C (19:19)

Well, so now you're addressing it. I mean, people have been saying this for months and you guys have just been toeing the line of narco terrorists and fentanyl deaths. So now you're addressing the claim.

B (19:28)

Yeah, now, now that you've done the thing we've all. And also, Rob, I mean, just blatantly straw manning the claim, you know what I mean? Like he says, I see a lot of claims that Venezuela has nothing to do with drugs because most of the fentanyl comes from elsewhere. It's like nobody's really saying Venezuela has nothing to do with drugs. And most of the fentanyl coming from. Otherwise that's just a fact. But it's not that people are saying that Venezuela has nothing to do with drugs. Obviously there are drug cartels in Venezuela. The point is that of the drugs that make it to the United States of America, Venezuela is responsible for a tiny fraction. And so if you're launching a regime change based off that, it makes no sense. It just doesn't. You know what I mean? Like, it'd be like launching a regime change against South Korea for oppressing their own people.

C (20:23)

Also, get rid of all, you know, there's another one. Get rid of all the foreign drugs. Why are we trying to boost the American bath salt industry? People go back to doing more crystal meth out of a bathtub.

B (20:34)

Well, look, I will say there's. There actually is a really, really good point to, to what you're saying there. And you know, if you remember, I know I brought this up on the show before, but. And it's been a while since I read about this, but it's real interesting if you, you know, the, like the, the rat studies, which like really was the. They use as the justification for the war on drugs. And essentially they did these studies back in the day. I want to say it was like in the 60s, but I might be wrong about that. But they basically did these studies where they like, they would give like a rat in a cage, like two water bottles, and one was laced with cocaine and one was just regular water, and the rat would take one sip of the cocaine, get like a buzz off of it, and then they would just Only ingest the cocaine until they killed themselves. And so they. They. Their takeaway from this study was like, oh, my God. And then you could, like, if you were a kid like my age, like in the. Just say no. You remember, this was the thinking. It was always like, one try and you're hooked and you'll do it till you die. And this is why you have to stay away from drugs. Because if you try drugs one time, you. You will be a drug addict. And this. And. And in fact, if you remember, Rob, there was a. I don't know if you remember this, but there was a. When in the 80s, there was this guy, Lenny Bias, I believe his name was, who was supposed to be Jordan. It was like him and Michael Jordan were the two big prospects of that, like 84 and 85 or whatever year they were. And he was. He got drafted by the Celtics, and then he. He killed himself with drugs. And the story always went that he. He went out to celebrate getting drafted and tried cocaine for the first time and killed himself. And then, like, years later, all his friends came out and they were like, dude, he was the biggest cokehead ever. Like, it's just not like. Anyway, but. So back to the rat story. So then they took. This is like, look, that's what it is. It's totally addictive. And once you try it, you're hooked and you'll just do it till you die. And then this one scientist came along and he wanted to add to the study, and he went, well, you know. You know, the thing here is you got, like, one rat who's isolated and kind of miserable. And so what if that wasn't the case and he decided to do the study, but instead of just keeping this rat in a cage, what they would do is they made him a much bigger cage. And it had, like, all types of like. Like little, like, mazes and like, little things that are fun for rats. And. And they gave him, like, food that rats really like. And then they gave him sexual access. Like, they'd bring in, like, chick rats and let him have sex and let him. And instead they just, like, made his life better and then put the two bottles there. And the rats, they did this over and over and over again. Never committed suicide through cocaine. They would take a little bit, go back and drink water. They'd have. Yeah, they would have weekends. And there's just. Yes, yes. But there's a really interesting insight there that, like, the drugs aren't really the problem. Like. Like, drugs, drug addiction and drug overdoses, they are a symptom of a bigger problem, which is like the despair. That's the real issue. And, and almost everybody knows this. Just like if you're an adult human being and you've experienced like people who mess up their lives with drugs, it's almost always like, oh, there was major other problems. And then you used these drugs to like numb that pain or whatever, or to escape or whatever it is. But so to your point, it, it is true that like, look, fentanyl is a little bit of a different story because fentanyl, like we, we were saying yesterday, right, like fentanyl is being poisoned more than it is like ODing, you know, but we get to that in a second. But the drug issue itself is like, it's not about the drugs. And, and, and right wingers and conservative, they get this when it comes to guns, right? Like, it's not the gun, it's the person behind the gun who's willing to go take other people's lives. Like, that's, that's kind of obvious to right wingers, but it's the same thing with drugs. It's not about the substance itself. It's about the condition that somebody would be in. Like, I, I am of no risk to like getting addicted to heroin and killing myself with it because like, I just got a lot of shit to live for, you know, but like when you don't have all of that, it's, it's a different situation. So anyway, there's that and then with the fentanyl example, it's like, okay, so the difference there is that you're being poisoned. Like I said Yesterday, some, some 25 year old just wants to take a perk set and hang out and have a little buzz and he doesn't realize he's taking fentanyl. That's, that kills him. That's a different thing. You know, that's not like a death of despair. That's a, that's somebody who is poisoned. But what's the way to get rid of that, Rob? Like, what's the way to really lock down on that? I mean, sure, you could try to go around and bomb every cartel and topple every government that makes drugs. And then when the next government comes in and there's still people making drugs, try to topple them again and again and again and just have forever wars, or you could just legalize the drugs. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is in the Cloud Indicloud is your online cannabis dispensary they got gummies, flour, pre rolls, and now zero sugar, zero calories, THC soda, all federally legal, thc, DEA certified, lab tested. And it's all shipped discreetly. So there you go. You don't need to get in your car and drive to the dispensary anymore. If you're over the age of 21, you could just go to Indecloud Co and make sure to use the promo code problem for, for 25% off and free shipping. 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C (26:22)

Oh, I thought we were going to say do tariffs so that people could have a factory job.

B (26:26)

Yeah, yeah, well, that's the other, that's the other option there. But the thing is, say what you will about legalized drugs, and I know people still have a weird aversion to this, even after like nearly 50 years of just a disastrous failed war on drugs. That has been nothing, that's done nothing other than give us the world's largest prison population and the most militarized police force in the world. But the truth is that alcohol is responsible for a lot more deaths than, than, than anything else. And that's legal. And, you know, for all the problems you may have with alcohol, when was the last time you heard about someone getting bad alcohol that was actually poison? Never. You know, cigarettes are really, really bad and they poison, they kill people. But you've never heard of someone being like, yeah, there's a real problem where, like, cigarettes are laced with rat poison and it's killing people. And the reason is because it's not done in the black market by gangsters. It's done by companies that are, you know what I mean, that have to, you know, like, can face consequences and are out in the light. And so the, the, the obvious answer to this is just to call it quits on the war on drugs. Just legalize the shit, give up. Drugs won, the war's over. But anyway, this has all been very, very obvious for a long time. And of course, Republicans just can never learn the obvious lesson. Okay, getting back to JD Vance's post. So JD Vance then says, first of all, fentanyl isn't the only drug in the world, and there is still fentanyl coming from Venezuela, or at least there was. Rob, I think that's just a completely dubious claim.

C (28:04)

Show.

B (28:04)

Show me the evidence on that. What fentanyl is coming for. What percentage of the fentanyl in America is coming from Venezuela?

C (28:10)

Also, it's an admission when you go, or at least there was. So that means. So you don't currently know the status of the fentanyl that's inside this country. So it sounds to me like you don't really know. You either know or you don't know. That's an admission of you don't know.

B (28:23)

And is the implication there that since capturing Maduro, it stopped? Like, what, they all just snapped out of it or something like that? It doesn't make any sense at all. Second, cocaine, which is the main drug trafficked out of Venezuela, is a profit center for all of the Latin American cartels. If you cut out the money from cocaine or even reduce it, you substantially weaken the cartels overall. Also, cocaine is bad too. Right?

C (28:53)

But taking Venezuela off the map is not going to get rid of the cartels that are making money off of cocaine. And if anything, they will. Whatever extent of their operation was running through Venezuela, it's not over. So in other words, we've accomplished nothing.

B (29:08)

Yes. And again, it just doesn't make any sense to, like, if you're, if you're saying the cocaine is bad, it's like, wow, J.D. vance, thank you for blowing my mind with that hot take. Okay. But it's still a very tiny percentage of the cocaine in America. Like, again, to the point I was making before about the rat studies and how drug ODs are an issue of, of despair. Even if you took all the cocaine away, say cocaine, no cocaine was getting into the country anymore. All those people who are coke addicts, they're not magically fixed. Like, they'll go to the next substance. They're not going to go, well, then I guess there's no getting high. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's like they'll find another thing to get high with. Human beings. Like, human beings getting fucked up is like. You know, they say, like, prostitution is the oldest profession or something like that. Or like wrestling or boxing is the oldest sport or whatever. It's like getting up is the oldest thing ever. Like, there was like they, they were like fermenting alcohol. It like in like a thousand bc. You know what I mean? Like, there's like, they may not had exactly the same stuff we had, but they had wine and they were getting drunk. In, in ancient Rome, they were getting drunk. If you, if you left a hundred human beings on an island for six months, they'd start figuring out which plants got them a buzz and stuff. It's just, it's so however you feel about it, it's just very, it's, it's a big part of the human condition. And anyway, whatever. It's all ridiculous, but none of the. Again, this just doesn't address anything. Coke is bad. Okay, but they're not the number one supplier of cocaine into the country, so why are we going after them? And like, it's just, it's like the whole, this whole war in Venezuela or whatever you want to call it. Certainly, it's so funny when people argue it's not a war. Like, if somebody, if somebody bombed our country and then kidnapped Donald Trump, I think we would consider it an act of war. But, you know, I'm, I'm wishing for it more and more every day, but I don't think that's going to happen. Just kidding. That's sarcasm. But anyway, yeah, this, it's just the whole, this whole thing, it's not just that it's sold on lies. It's that the lies are so insulting to your intelligence. This, this is your response? Cocaine is bad? That's your response to people pointing out that you, that Venezuela is responsible for a tiny fraction of the cocaine in our country anyway? 3rd yeah. Oh, and I guess we should maybe address the other point he made there, Rob, about it hurts the cartels or something like that. Like. Yeah, but not the ones who are shipping in the vast majority of the stuff. Okay. 3rd Yes, a lot of fentanyl is coming out of Mexico. That continues to be a focus of our policy in Mexico and is a reason why President Trump shut the border on day one. Okay, like, but if you're saying it's still coming in, why aren't you dealing with Mexico if this is the answer, to deal with these things? I see a lot of criticism about oil. About 20 years ago, Venezuela expropriated American oil property and until recently used that stolen property to get rich and fund their narco terrorist activities. I understand the anxiety over the use of military force, but are we just supposed to allow a communist to steal our stuff in our hemisphere and do nothing? Great powers don't act like that. The United States, thanks to President Trump's leadership, is a great power again, Everyone should take note. Consider.

C (32:58)

I mean, I guess Israel better give back Palestinian territories.

B (33:02)

Well, let me tell you something. Yeah, well, right. Yeah. Well, J.D. vance, if you want to be president, dude, you're screwed. His. There's just, there's no way you're going to carry the coalition that Donald Trump carried. Like, and I mean, it's not just me, but I can certainly speak for myself, Like, I'm out. I'm out on J.D. vance, all this, it's just too stupid and insulting and just spineless. Like, he knows better than this. He just won't say it. He doesn't actually believe this, but he wants to be president, so he'll put it out and lie because he's weak. It's really disgusting. But look, as far as this. This idea, it's right, Rab. It's like they always do this thing where, like, they can't. They don't have one good argument, but they'll make up for it within volume. You know, like, it's like they're. So. They'll just keep throwing things at you. Like the. Like, what is the justification for this? Exactly? What the hell are you even saying now? It's that they took our oil. This, like, it's like, after we did it, that became the justification when Trump wanted to take the oil. He goes, no, it's really our oil. It's really ours. Did I talk about this on yesterday's show, Rob? Did I say the thing about, like, intellectual property?

C (34:19)

I don't think so. I don't remember that coming up.

B (34:23)

So I remember this was, like, remember years ago. I think it was Kinsella, Stepan Kinsella, who's a brilliant libertarian theorist. And, you know, he was. He was arguing. He had this whole take on intellectual property and why it's. And it's a very interesting, you know, cover. I think me and you even argued about this, like, back in the day. And it's an interesting topic. But one of the points I remember he made that I thought was interesting was that I think it was him. It might have been somebody else who said this, but they were talking about how, like, in China, you know, they steal our intellectual property. And someone had talked about how, like, in China, they have, like, Apple Stores that just aren't Apple Stores. Like, the company Apple isn't affiliated with all, but they put their logo on it and they do all that. Or someone had said this. I don't know if it's true or not, but that it's kind of irrelevant whether it actually is true. But. And then his response was like, so what would you have. You would have what, the US Government go enforce that. They're not allowed to do that. And then he was basically breaking down where he was like, essentially what you would have is just the US Government using tax money for giant corporations. You know what I mean? And that, like, so essentially all you're doing here is advocating that the American worker The working class has to foot the bill for Exxon in this case or whatever. It's like, so how do you want to do this here? I mean, first of all, it's not as if the oil was ours exactly. You know, like, it's not. Know all those. All those oil companies are totally in bed with Western governments. And it's not as if it's like, you know, a clean, like, you know, voluntary transaction or something like that. It's. It's all kind of complicated. But, like, you want to be in the. So if we have a choice here where we say, oh, oh, we're the big tough government, so what, we're going to let a communist country take our stuff in our hemisphere, no less. So, like, is that the standard now that if any businessman wants to go invest abroad in volatile countries, that the United States government is on the hook to make sure that those investments are. That those contracts are fulfilled or that none of your property is seized? Wouldn't it be more reasonable to just tell these companies, buyer beware. You know, you want to go down and you want to invest in some of these volatile Latin American countries. Okay, but just know. You know what I mean? Like, that might be. This is a risk that you got to factor into that. Yeah, I'm quite comfortable with that. So it's so weird, this, like, the bravado, the machismo stuff that comes along with these dumb wars. Yeah, we're not pussies. So what are you actually saying there? So the military, like, is it really what it's like? You guys are in power because you were elected by us, the American people. You guys finance everything you do because you tax us, the American people. Why is it crazy for us to think that you should be loyal to us, the American people? And, oh, by the way, that was your whole campaign. That was your whole campaign. So if you're telling me now that you're going to spend my money to go bail out big oil companies because they invested in a country that went communist, fuck that. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Ridge. The Ridge Wallet is the coolest wallet I've ever owned. And you will love it, too. They've got over a hundred thousand, five star reviews. It's a great company. They really just make cool things. The Ridge Wallet's like a. It's a minimalist wallet, but it's sleek and cool. They're all made with premium materials like aluminum, titanium and carbon fiber. And they have over 50 colors and styles to choose from and they all just look awesome. It's like, it's, it's actually like a conversation starter when you pull out a Ridge wallet because it's like, oh, what's that cool wallet? Everyone else has these bulky, old, fat wallets and you got this cool minimalist wallet and you look awesome. So go check it out. Also just makes a great gift for somebody who's tough to get a gift for. So for a limited time now, our listeners can get 10% off at Ridge by using the promo code PROBLEM10 at checkout. Just head to ridge.com and use the promo code PROBLEM 10 and you're all set. And after you purchase, they will ask where you heard about them. Please let them know that you heard about them right here on part of the problem. That helps us out. All right, let's get back into the show.

C (38:50)

On that note, I didn't show up to a lot of college, but there was one political science class that I took that was pretty interesting and I showed up to and I remember from this class that he talked about that when oil companies invest into other countries, they basically make these deals where they're taking all the money up front because they know that they're not going to stay around forever until the regimes basically throw them out. Since that's priced into, into the deals is that it's kind of a cash grab up front. I don't know if that was the situation in Venezuela, but just speaking to this is ExxonMobil. I think they knew the risk or.

B (39:27)

Yeah, it was ExxonMobil. I think, I think Chevron was the one that was allowed to stay or I think I got that another on.

C (39:33)

The last episode, just another humorous storyline. I don't know if you saw this, but there was reports coming out that the reason why Donald Trump went with the current regime as opposed to that lady who won the Nobel Peace Prize was because she was mad that she stole Donald Trump's prize. And speaking to that theory was she was even on Sean Hannity last night and I guess appealing for the position, said that she would was planning on giving the prize to Donald Trump, but was just looking for the opportunity to actually meet Donald Trump to tell him in person. That was always her intention.

B (40:06)

So she seems to believe it. She seems to believe that that's why he's not supporting her now to run.

C (40:10)

Cover for that storyline. This is just an added level of amusement because obviously I don't think that makes Trump look good if he's making foreign affair decisions. Off of something as petty as. I deserve this prize, not some other lady. He hasn't accomplished enough in his life. They were saying that, no, it was because of CIA intelligence, that we were better off with the. With the current regime and not there would be too much opposition and. Natalie, I don't know if you can pull up the Wall Street Journal article, but I highlighted this one line because I thought it was so funny that basically, after we've been told about how we have to get rid of all the drugs coming into the country and the narco terrorism, there's a line in the Wall Street Journal from our CIA intelligence analyst that in part the reason why we can't get rid of this regime is because there would be too much. Too much opposition from the drug cartels. Yeah.

B (41:02)

Can you make that bigger, Natalie? Yeah, because that really is.

C (41:06)

I can't read it from here. Maybe you want to read the one line I underlined.

B (41:09)

I can't. It's just a little too big. The report concluded that Gonzalez, widely seen as the actual winner of the 24 elections against Maduro and Machado, would struggle to gain legitimacy as leaders while facing. Sorry, go back over here. While facing resistance from pro regime security services, drug trafficking networks and political opponents.

C (41:38)

So it sounds like we're not too interested in getting rid of the drug.

B (41:41)

Trade or the regime for that matter, right? So, I mean, just think about the goddamn lies that this thing has been sold off of. Just like all the wars, man. Like all of them. And you know, people can sit here and like, kind of try to give a shit for opposing every last one of these things, but sorry, dude, your government's lying through their fucking teeth to you. Have a little bit of dignity and oppose it. Be a goddamn grown up. It's not about the drugs. We're not getting rid of the drug cartels and we're not getting rid of the regime. At least according to this report. And so all your time, you know, it's amazing, man, it's amazing how quickly people hoist these Mission Accomplished banners like they've learned God damn nothing, man. Nothing from 25 years of this. Like you've just watched it over and over again. And they're right away, you know, it's the. The 12 Day War. We've completely decimated their nuclear program all by ourself. We didn't even need America. Okay, actually, we do need America, but now we've completely decimated their system and there's no more nuclear threat. Actually, they're rebuilding their nuclear program. Actually, we're good. You know, it's like there. And so you sit here and day one, you know, it's just like the people celebrating it were literally saying, rob, I talked about this on the show yesterday, but they were literally going, we just got $17 trillion worth of oil and liberated an entire people. You're like, no, you didn't. None of that happened. None of that. Somebody goes, I saw somebody. Oh, it was Matt Walsh just pathetically defending this thing. And he goes, oh. He goes, you can't compare this to any other disastrous war. It only lasted 90 minutes. And you're like, yeah, well, the war in Iraq only lasted 90 minutes. After the first 90 minutes, like, what the hell does that mean, dude? Like, what are you talking about? I mean, like, maybe, maybe Donald Trump doesn't do anything else here and just walks away. You know what I mean? But that's not what he's saying. He's saying we run the place now, and he's saying we're going to transition to a new regime, and he's saying we're going to take the oil. Like, okay, sounds like you're going to need more than 90 minutes because we haven't accomplished any of that. It's. Yeah, this, the whole thing is just a goddamn fraud, just like all of them.

C (43:57)

Well, I guess it's just round one, so we'll still have to see how it plays out.

B (44:01)

Well, it's. It is amazing to. You know, I know I said this yesterday and I'm. I'm repeating myself a little bit here, but I just don't like. And I had a long post about this on. On Twitter, but really is amazing. Am I the only one who still calls it Twitter? It changed the goddamn thing to X. And I'll just never stop.

C (44:18)

I'm.

B (44:18)

I'm.

C (44:19)

Yeah, yeah.

B (44:20)

It's just. It just didn't stick anyway. But, but. So I had a long post about this, but it's like, look, people try, you know, people try to say, like, oh, you know, you panic ins. You were so worried about the war in Iran, but it was such a big success. And you're like, it wasn't a success. And there literally nothing was accomplished by it. Iran didn't have nuclear weapons. No one even claimed they had nuclear weapons. And, you know, and they move the enriched uranium. Yeah, yeah. Like, it's just like, nothing. Nothing was accomplished. Some people died in Israel, some people died in Iran. It's just kind of horrible and nothing good came of it. And also, if you've noticed, when Benjamin Netanyahu and came over here to talk to Donald Trump. All they could talk about is when they might have to attack Iran again. So nothing's been resolved, nothing's been improved. And, and same in this. Now, it is true, right? That, and I said this on my post on Twitter, but it is true that, look, not every military action leads to a wider war and not every regime change is guaranteed to be Iraq or Libya and be like some catastrophe where like hundreds of thousands of people die and it costs trillions of dollars or something like that. Like, not that that's true enough, but you always risk that. You always risk it whenever you get into this stuff. You know, world, World War I was started over a political assassination. You know, like there's like an entire world war was started over that. And Even World War II was started over, like a conflict in Poland turned into a world war over that, like there. And there's countless examples of catastrophic wars being started with very limited engagement. But the thing is, when you stop, when you start dropping bombs on human beings and you start toppling governments or toppling the leader of a government, you always risk an unavoidable escalation. You always risk a bloody costly war because that could happen, right? Like, even like in the Iran situation, as we pointed out all the time, like, there was a huge, you really can't deny this, there was a huge element of the 12 day war that relied on the Iranian response. There is no military expert in the world who will tell you that the Iranians do not have the ability to kill Americans in the region. Everybody knows they have missiles that can hit American bases which are all over that place. You know, there's all types of American bases in the Middle east, all over the place. But they didn't. Now, obviously that was for, you know, the sake of self preservation, but we were relying on them to do that because in the middle of that 12 day war, after we dropped the bunker busters, what if they just take out a couple hundred Americans? What do you, Donald Trump would have no choice. It's, it's, it would essentially be an unavoidable escalation at that point, because what's he going to do? He can't, he's not going to walk away after that. And, and so with all of these things, you take a risk when you do this, that this could turn into a bloody costly war. And I just, the fact that any American is not concerned with that, like, is just wild to me. I mean, like, what I don't, like, what would it do to this country to have another bloody costly war right now. Like, you know, the Iraq war, the war in Afghanistan. And these wars greatly damaged our country, drove us further into debt. You know, obviously a lot of people died, thousands, tens of thousands committed suicide in the, in the aftermath. And it really radicalized our domestic politics. And now we're in a much weaker situation than we were in 2003, Rob, or in 2001. You know, we're much further in debt, much more polarized, much more destabilized as a country. And it's just, it is wild to me that people straight up don't have that concern, just celebrate it.

C (48:43)

It feels like there's a bit of a compromise at the moment of the, the elites can't get away with full scale wars and so they're going with these targeted military, military strikes. But speaking to your broader points, and I'd already said that that's better than the full scale wars. But yeah, you are flirting with, we still don't know what's going on with Iran and if Netanyahu is going to manage to win that plea from Donald Trump. And we are obviously flirting with larger wars and we're also flirting with aggravating China, Russia and every other country to realize, hey, we can't be working with the United States of America.

B (49:21)

Oh, yeah, for sure, for sure. And also, it's just, it's just so obviously reckless. I mean, like, there's no type of like wise leader that would go, hey, we got this really bloody awful war in Europe right now, which is a big concern, you know, with the biggest nuclear power in the world. It's on their borders. It's a proxy war. It's been a proxy war between the entire Western world and Russia. A very dangerous situation. So let's just go flirting with unnecessary wars of choice elsewhere. And you know, to your point, Rob, that you're right, it does seem like, look, they, they kind of know that there just isn't the political will for some like real deal, you know, mass invasion of a country like Allah, Iraq or Afghanistan or something like that. But it is what's amazing to me and I felt this way, you know, I said this about the, the war with Iran and, and I think it's probably even more so the case in Venezuela or at least in the same ballpark as much the case that it's amazing how like the lack of a propaganda rollout and I think part of that's because they don't have the propaganda apparatus anymore. But like when they, you know, if you think about, like, okay, the. The propaganda against the Taliban was essentially like, they did 9 11, which, you know, look, all these things are lies. But, like, they did 911 or they. They. You know, this is where the 911 attack was launched from or something like that. So we have to go to Afghanistan. Iraq was weapons of mass destruction. He was part of 9 11. He's in bed with the. The terrorists. Libya was like, he's about to go genocidal. Was their claim that he was about to kill 700,000 people. You know, Gaddafi, who had ruled over the country for decades for whatever reason, had lost his mind and was about to go genocidal with Bashar al Assad. It was the. He's using chemical weapons and killing hundreds of thousands of his own citizens. Again, I'm not saying any of this is true. I'm just saying this is like the. The level. And then, like, you get to Iran and they're like, they're enriching up to 60%. And you're like, wait, that's what you got? That's the, like, unsung, you know, like, unbelievable thing that we just can't idly sit by and watch. And then with Venezuela, it's like, they. Some drugs come in like that. Since when has that ever been the justification for launching a goddamn war? Like, you're not talking about a country that's attacked you or even attacked someone else. And. And, like, really, Rob? Like, what are the chart. What are they saying about Maduro here? It's not even like they're going, he's the next Adolf Hitler. 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You know, you see this like on an individual level all the time, right? Where, where somebody will, will say something like accusatory of someone else. And they're being such a hypocrite because they're so guilty of it too. And you go like, geez, like where's the self awareness on this guy? But that's because he's got blind spots for his own bullshit. You know, he sees your bullshit really clearly, but he's got blind spots for his own. It's very human thing. And you know, you sit there like we're like the most medicated country in the goddamn world. Got all types. Every, every little boy who doesn't want to sit still in this country is like on Ritalin or whatever they put him on now. Not Ritalin, Adderall, something, you know, you got every, every goddamn cat mom in the country is on antidepressant antidepressants like half, half the countries on SSRIs. It's like what you're. He's in bed with the drug cartels and that's why we gotta go kill. Like, I don't know, it's all just, it's all so goddamn ridiculous.

C (55:02)

Keep the cocaine out and protect the Adderall business.

B (55:05)

Yeah, right, exactly. Our troops, our troops are defending poppy fields in Afghanistan. But now we have to go overthrow Venezuela over cocaine. Like what the are we talking about here, man? Come on, Come on. You people are not this stupid. You're not this stupid to fall for this. And again, look, let me say. No, look, did you see there was a, that someone. There was some poll where they. They were. Or not a poll, but they were like measuring like Google searches and they were showing how like basically the day after the Venezuela thing, there was a lot of Google searches. And then it like all fell off after that because, like, no one really cares. No one really is like, for this even. There's like the, the. There's the, the war party and their spokespeople, which turn out to be a lot of right wing influencers, by the way. The right wing influencer slop over this has really just been disgusting as. But even last I, I ended the podcast talking about this yesterday. I guess I could end it again talking about it today, but I said like a whole bunch of accounts, including that guy who. Look, we, we just talked about who. What's his name? Shirley. Nick Shirley. I think the guy who did the Minnesota fraud thing who does seem like he may have ruined Tim Waltz, so we owe him a debt of on that one. But. Dude posting. Yeah, Nick Shirley posting. Look at the Venezuelans celebrating. Like, this isn't even from this year, dude. Like, what do you do? You know, Elon Musk shared a thing. A whole bunch of them haven't deleted it. Even though they're like, everybody's telling them, like, this is not footage from. And like, I just, I don't know, man. There's something I, you know, I give a lot of credit to Megyn Kelly. She had a really great segment on this where she was like, yo, this is the thing. She goes, I turn on Fox News and it's just everybody's cheerleading. Like, there's not one critical voice, just everyone there. And like, it is. I just, I don't know, it's such a disservice. It's like not a strong enough word. It's such a. It's such a betrayal of your responsibilities as anybody who's got a platform, as anybody who's got an audience and is in the world of talking about this shit for like, when there's something like this to just become a regime cheerleader. Like, you're, you're just there to cheer on the regime, even though, like, they clearly, very clearly just launched an illegal war of aggression sold on lies. It's just so obvious. But you're gonna sit there and just cheerlead this on and then use fake footage to, like, try to make some type of point. Anyway, the whole thing is just, I don't know, it's goddamn sickening. Sickening, if you ask me. Anyway, I, what was the. There was. I was going somewhere with that, but I lost my train of thought on it. Anyway, I guess we could. Here, why don't we, we got a few minutes left. Why don't we go to Pam Bondi? She got to the bottom of the Epstein thing, so let's see where she is on this. Let's check in with our Attorney General, and that is Pam Bondi. Madam Attorney General, great to have you. Let's talk about something called Article 2. Let's talk a little bit about the law, the charges, and let's go through those people, those critics that don't like the fact that Donald Trump did this and say he did not have the authority or he needed to go to Congress. You say what?

A (58:31)

Sean, this was well within the president's Article 2 powers. It was a law enforcement function to arrest indicted individuals in Venezuela. Our military pulled off a flawless, flawless execution of that. It was amazing. And, Sean, America and the Western Hemisphere is safer tonight.

B (58:53)

All right, so pause it, pause it here for a second. So this lady most famous for covering up for pedophiles is lying through her fucking teeth. And most people who cover up for pedophiles don't, don't have an issue with lying. I'm just saying, like, usually, like on the, on the moral checklist, usually by the time you get to covering up pedophilia, you vote, you're way past being comfortable not telling the truth. Also, it requires a lot of lying to cover up for pedophilia. So this pedophile enabler is out of her goddamn mind. She knows this is such bullshit. The entire case rests on what? He wasn't the leader of another nation. This wasn't a sovereign nation. He's just a criminal who we used the military to go arrest like we normally do. Right? Totally normal, just an indictment.

C (59:44)

This doesn't put a lot of faith in the, in the lawsuit going well when Pam Bondi is coming off like such a raging lunatic and thinking that this was just a law enforcement exercise.

B (59:56)

By the way, if you, if you murdered somebody in this country and then got on a plane to Italy, they don't send the military after you. They go through the extradition process. What are you even talking about? Oh, why couldn't you go through that process this time? Because he was the fucking leader of a country. What are you talking. And if you're talking about the law, Right, you're talking about the law. She said his Article 2 authority the Article 2 of what? Of the Constitution of the United States of America. Now, in the writing of the Constitution, none of the founders favored democracy, by the way, not a one of them was pro democracy. I mean they did set up a system with like democratic processes for white male landowners to be allowed to vote in for free white males who owned property. You got a vote. But like they didn't believe in democracy. So what, what are you saying? He's illegitimate because of the is. So you're saying like that would have to be the framework that the Constitution was referring to is that anybody who does not is not democratically elected or something like that is not a legitimate leader. Because like, by the way, Rob, at the time of the writing of the Constitution, the world was not dominated by democracies. All of Europe was monarchies at the time. And so like do you think that what the is your argument that the original intent of the founders was that oh yeah, you can send the military, you could fight a war with any of them, you can send the military in to capture any king in, in Europe. Now they were pretty goddamn clear about who can declare war and it wasn't the President. All right, let's keep playing a little.

A (61:44)

Bit with directing and it's just an indictment now. They are charged with directing the murders, kidnappings, assaults of anyone who stood in their way and also anyone who tried to stop their drug business. They are also charged with bringing tons of drugs into this country. Maduro, Nicolas Maduro is charged with over hundreds and hundreds of tons of cocaine flowing into our country. And he's charged with working with not only TDA, but also Sinaloa, all the cartels in.

C (62:25)

Just pause for a moment. Colombia, and for one, I haven't heard the word fentanyl yet. So just want to float that out there, that in terms of charges, I haven't heard. Maybe, maybe we're coming to it. Maybe I haven't watched enough of the clip, but I haven't heard the word fentanyl. And two is if it's very important to the United States government to now engage in law enforcement against leaders who are involved in the drug trade. I guess we took out one of the low key players. I guess we're looking at a lot more law enforcement operations on our hands.

B (62:56)

Yeah, yeah, no, very good point there. Let's, let's keep playing Venezuela.

A (63:02)

And what that means, Sean, is we know that this monster released countless defendants, prisons, insane asylums into our country. It's not just about drugs. Saving the President saved thousands, countless lives tonight. Countless lives with the drug trade. But he also protected Americans from the TDA members who Maduro let into our country.

B (63:33)

Man, this woman is just so full of shit. And again, dude, look, I'm not trying to be a dick, but like, you guys, you just can't support this administration anymore. They're just so, they just think you're so stupid, man. Like, you're not this dumb, you're not this dumb. For her to say, listen, just think about the argument she's making here, right? Is that Maduro opened his prisons and I guess it implied here is that then directed them to flood into America. Like this was some type of like, covert operation which benefits him how? By the way, leave aside the fact that there's never been a shred of evidence produced that this is real. They've never demonstrated this at all. They just keep asserting that it's the case. But if that's the case, then to turn around and go, donald Trump just saved you from all of those people. Well, what, where's the logic in that? If another country is flooding criminals into our country, the answer isn't we send the military in there to topple the government. The answer is you secure your goddamn border. Which is the only good thing Donald Trump's done. Now, if you're saying he's protecting you from these people, that would look like deporting all of them, which he has not done. So like, no, that's. None of this is protecting you. If those people got in, they already got in under Biden's wide open border. And Donald Trump has not been deporting nearly people to undo the immigration that came in during Joe Biden. So, like, this is just, I don't know, this is just like, like for you, it's like when they, when Carl Rove used to get on Fox News on this very same program on Sean Hannity, which like the theme of Sean Hannity is just like, we're relying on you to be really stupid. Like, that is the whole thing. Carl Rove used to go on, I remember this like in like 2006, like around that time, 2004, 2005, the years when they were trying to build up the, the, the war drums to go into Iran. And he would go, he would say right into the camera that Iran is the number one state sponsor of terrorism. And we cannot live with that in a post 9, 11 world. And you know, he's just relying on the fact that Sean Hannity's view, Sean Hannity's viewers don't know a Sunni from A Shiite like that. He's just relying on the fact that you think they're all Durka Durkistan people and they're terrorists. And so I just told you. 9 11, number one, sponsor terror. What does that sound like to you? Right? So, like, he never technically claimed that Iran was in on 9 11. You know what I mean? But, like, he. He clearly relied on you inferring that from what he was saying. But the truth is that for anyone who knows, the first thing about the region is that Iran's at war with those guys. They're. They're. They're sworn enemies of each other. Right? So, like, it's just. It's all. So it's. It. But it's that. It's the same thing as that. She's just relying on you, not even sitting there and, like, thinking it through and going, wait, but that doesn't make any goddamn sense now, does it?

C (66:45)

Yeah, I love the claim of Donald Trump has made you safer because this guy was pouring criminals. And, well, you guys have been in charge for a year, so is he still doing it? And is that no longer the policy of that government to do this? And how many deaths have occurred because of criminals that have come over from Venezuela? I mean, how many people are we talking about? And how many lives are being saved? And also, if they're here. Yeah. Wouldn't the quicker route to saving Americans be deporting them?

B (67:14)

Yeah, Yeah, I would. I would think so. I would think that would be the really obvious answer here. Right. And again, it's like I said, like, all these problems can be like the problems with the drug trade, like, all the things they're talking about. It's like, secure the border and legalize drugs solves all these problems. Instead of that, we're flirting with a war. And again, as we said before, look, I don't think. I don't think this is going to be another Iraq. I don't think this is going to be another Libya. That's my guess right now. It could be. It's not impossible. A lot of that depends on what Trump does next. You know, I'm. I'm presuming that Donald Trump doesn't actually mean the retarded things that he's saying. Right? Like, that's what. That's what you have to presume with Donald Trump, because if he did mean the things, it would be too goddamn insane. Like, if he really did mean that we're running the place, then we'd have to militarily occupy the place to do that. But short of, you know, I'm not saying it's going to turn into a catastrophe like that. Like, gun to gun to my head, my bet would be, my prediction probably would be like, the people aren't going to be liberated. We're not going to get that oil. You know, this chick plays ball a little bit. Like we said yesterday, our oil companies get a few points here. No American's life is really improved by this. Our big oil companies maybe make a little bit more profits or, you know, whatever. Like something like that is probably like the regime stays in place, the people are still oppressed. Like nothing major was accomplished here. But it doesn't turn into a catastrophe. But there's a risk of that. There sure is a risk of that. And if you actually try to go in there and, and have boots on the ground as Donald Trump has kept his, you know, the door open for you, just raise the risk of this actually turning into a real deal catastrophe. All right, we gotta wrap up there, guys. This weekend. Come see us in Philadelphia Helium comedy club. Looking forward to it. Comicdavesmith.com for all those ticket links, go check out Rob's other show, run your mouth, go watch his new series portion and we'll see you guys soon. Peace.

A (69:33)

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