B (9:37)

Off.

A (9:38)

All right, let's get back to the show. I did think that Donald Trump, he opened up fairly well. Like, he, I, I, I'd have to admit. And, and even as somebody who's, you know, obviously been very, very unhappy with Trump's administration and basically every show I've been criticizing him because there's just no other option as far as I'm concerned at this point. But I did, you know, I, I watched the speech and you try your best to like, okay, let me approach this with an open mind, and I will Say that I thought it was. He started off pretty immediately and hit. He touted their immigration success at the border and how they got the border under control and the major thing. And of course, he also brags that they got the economy under control. And this is, you know, we could kind of get into that. I think this is kind of just a losing message, although I don't know what other option he has at this point. What can you say other than, yeah, it's all tremendous and let as many people who are going to believe that believe it. But essentially the theme of the first couple minutes of the speech was what a mess Joe Biden left him. And it's hard to not, you know, at least go, look, if he's bragging that, like, dude, we had a wide open border where tens of millions of people were pouring through, and now that emergency is done and look what the hell was those four years of Joe Biden. It's hard to deny that, hey, there's a fair point to that. I thought it was a strong way to open. In fact, I thought like, if I, if I could have put my, myself it like, let's say I was a, was Donald Trump's speechwriter and I worked for the administration. I mean, you know, in, in real life, if I worked for this administration, I would have resigned quite a while ago, certainly by last summer. But I don't. But like, imagine I worked there and I didn't have morals or something like that, so I didn't resign. I would have said that the first thing you talk about should be the border, but you should spend 20 minutes on it, not just like a mention. And then later in the speech, he came back to talking about all this. But I mean, I would have, if I think literally, and part of this is my perspective that I think it's really the only thing he has that he can really point to and brag about. But at the same time, you kind of can't take that away from him. But all of those, the, the bottom line, right, is that you can blame all the Democrats for that and you can say, look, you know, there's all these people who were, you can list off the real victims, as he did with a couple later in the speech. But I would have kept that all in the opening chunk and really just hit them with that, like, yo, these people are actually dead because you guys had this border policy which no one, including your own voters wanted, and you could have gone really into like, betrayal to a nation that is to open their borders against their will. And, you know, like, if there's, I thought that would have been a strong thing that he could have milked more out of. But he did mention it, he gets some credit for it. Pretty shortly after that, he, well, he just, look, I'll say this before we, we play this next clip, which is the, the one we said we're going to start with. Natalie, There's, I will say that Donald Trump's, to me at least his age was showing through this thing. It's hard to not recognize that, like, yeah, he's a guy in that age group, he's 80 or whatever and he's rambling on for two hours. But anyway, he does at a certain point kind of pivot to this like, rah, rah America moment. So here, let's, let's play this clip.

B (13:27)

Our country is winning again. In fact, we're winning so much that we really don't know what to do about it. People are asking me, please, please, please, Mr. President, we're winning too much. We can't take it anymore. We're not used to winning in our country until you came along with just always losing. But now we're winning too much. And I say, no, no, no, you're going to win again. You're going to win big. You're going to win bigger than ever. And to prove that point, to prove that point, here with us tonight is a group of winners.

A (14:03)

All right, so he goes off on this whole thing. It's, I don't know, it doesn't, to me, it just doesn't quite feel like classic Trump. It feels like a kind of washed up version of it. And look, I don't know, maybe it's just me in my perspective. Perhaps I'm a little colored by the fact that I'm pretty furious at this administration. But I don't know, I don't, I just don't think this message, while you're, you know, you, you were a year ago, you gave a State of the Union speech where you're, you know, you were enjoying your record high approval ratings, which by the way, were like 50, 50. It's like the best Donald Trump ever did, at least according to the polls. Maybe he was in actuality a little better than that. In fact, I, I, I think he might have been, I suspect. But you have your record now. You come back, you're, you're like 10 points down from there. It's like there's your, your base is very divided. You're on your way to getting creamed in the midterms. And to just stand there and go, we're winning. You're so tired of winning. I don't know, man. It seem, it just seems like a really out of touch message to me. He then pivots to what felt like an inappropriate amount of time talking about hockey and Olympics and sports. I don't know how else to say it. There was like 15 minutes or something like that of just going over the Olympics and the hockey team and the whole thing. I understand it's a story that some people care about, but I don't know, it's just, I just, I don't, you know, I will say again, if there's one thing I kind of expect Donald Trump to be good at, it's putting on a show. And the idea of just extending the state is the State of the Union making it the long. I believe I read that it was the longest State of the Union that anyone's ever given. And then just filling it with so much fluff. It just, I don't know, it seemed to me like it just made the thing boring. And I think it kind of backfired on Trump in some way. Let's go to. Okay, let's see. Sorry, one second. There's. We got a few options here, but I'd say let's, let's go to the. Trump can't believe it as Elizabeth Warren stands up. This was one of the few times he got Elizabeth Warren on, on our feet. Let's check that out.

B (16:42)

All Americans can profit from a rising stock market. Let's also ensure that members of Congress cannot corruptly profit from using insider. They stood up for that. I can't believe, I can't believe it. Did Nancy Pelosi stand up if she's here? Doubt it. Pass the Stop Insider Trading act without delay, as we ensure.

A (17:38)

I thought, look, I, I will say, you know, there were a few moments like this, and maybe that's what we'll kind of go over here in a few clips here. There were a few moments where I suppose I could see the argument to why this would be a smart way for Donald Trump to play it. This is, it's red meat to his base to have these moments, these, these kind of viral moments when, you know, you're. Oh, he said to her face, he said, nancy Pelosi, you know, is rich from insider trading. Or he called out Pocahontas or whatever. Or had the moment where he's yelling back and forth with Elon Omar, you know, and, and we'll get into some of these other things. I think were fairly like effective little Trump tactics in a second. I guess not the worst way to play it. If you're Donald Trump, the thing is, your hands are a bit tied right now. You don't have that much that you can really point to. And so pointing to what a disaster the Biden administration was or how crazy the radical progressive Democrats are, you know, that is something that it's for. For most, I'd say it's a. It's an issue where the majority of the country will go, hell, yeah, there is some truth to that. The Donald Trump also has, again, as all presidents do, Donald Trump has moments where he proposes these kind of bills that certainly would be very, very popular. Like the idea that whatever. Even, like, obviously the devil's in the detail with any type of legislation. But it. He has these moments like you just saw right there where he goes, hey, we're going to propose a bill that bans insider trading by Congressman. Now. You're. You can't become worth $200 million from being a congresswoman for 30 years. You know, and, you know, he had other proposals. Well, you know, we pay the, the most in our country, pays the most in prescription drugs. I'm proposing a new bill that would have us pay the least in prescription drugs. And I'm calling on Congress to, you know, whatever, pass this legislation. And there's a few different things like that, right. Proposing things that almost everyone would agree with, like get rid of the corruption in Washington, don't have insane expensive health care, all of these things. And as he's promising all of them, you know, I started, at least this was the thing I was thinking about. I remember, as I'm sure many of you do, I remember in 2016, when Donald Trump was debating Hillary Clinton and one of the most power, I think almost any political analyst, at least at this point, I was saying it at the time, but I think almost everybody now would agree that, like, it was a very powerful argument that Donald Trump had, whether you think it's fair or unfair, correct or incorrect. It was a very powerful argument that Donald Trump had when Hillary Clinton would start talking about how she was going to fix this or that, and he would go, you've been here for 30 years. Why didn't you do it already? Like, you were like a partner in a presidency. You were a senator, you were the secretary of state. Like, you had a lot of political power. And now you're coming to me with like, I have an idea to fix everything. And, you know, and that's a powerful thing. To say it's a huge advantage that Donald Trump had in 2016 of being like, hey, I'm the outsider. And by that, what that means is that, you know, the catastrophic war in Iraq, the catastrophic war in Afghanistan, the disaster in Libya, the Great Recession, the, you know, whatever the debt was, 20 something trillion dollars of debt at the time, right? All of that I have no responsibility for because I've just been over here building great big buildings and kicking ass and making money, you know, like that. Like, I have nothing to do with this. And you, when you haven't been in government that whole time, it's a reasonable thing to say, you know, well, now, let's see. Hillary Clinton, okay, Hillary Clinton, you voted for the war in Iraq. You were the architect, architect of the war in Libya. You voted for the war in Afghanistan. You voted for almost all these spending bills that have bankrupted the country. You're have, like, you're heavily implicated in all of these disasters and I'm implicated in none of them. If you had such a great plan, why wouldn't you have done it by now? That was a really powerful thing. And for the same reasons that, that was a very powerful argument. For the exact same reasons. It's really not very powerful anymore. When Donald Trump says, hey, you know how we pay the most for prescription drugs? Well, I got an idea that we're going to pay the least. It's like, dude, this is your sixth State of the Union. Mr. President, by the way, you both, in your, your first term and in this term, you came into it with a Republican controlled Congress, in this term with a Republican controlled Congress, a Republican controlled Supreme Court, or, you know, a Republican majority Supreme Court. And so it's almost like Trump's line could be used right back on him. Like, you have this idea of how to make a, we pay the highest, you know, prescription costs in the world. You have an idea for how we could pay the lowest. Where's that been? And if you haven't implemented it now, what does anyone, you know what I'm saying, like it just at least to me. And I think there's probably a lot of people who feel this way on some level, whether consciously or subconsciously that you go, you just have some. On some level, he goes, but now, thanks to my idea that I'm announcing here, we're going to be paying the lowest prescription drug costs. And you just go, no, no, we're not. None of that's real. 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That's 25% off when you use promo code Dave@cowboy colostrum.com Dave all right, let's get back into the show. Oh, congressmen aren't going to get rich on insider trading anymore. Yeah. But the thing is they are, they're going to keep doing that. And it just, I don't know there, I, I think there's something about that, that the more time Donald Trump's in here now, you've had all the time in the world to do this stuff and you haven't delivered. The bluster just doesn't work as well. And also now you are implicated in these five catastrophes. So it's, it's, that was just my thought as I'm watching it. Like this just doesn't, it doesn't have the power that, you know, in general, Donald Trump just doesn't have the cachet that he once did. Okay. So here, let's give these were a couple of the moments that I'm sure the ones that his people are going to celebrate the most. So let's get that back into that. All right, so let's go to the one, the chief nerd. Great follow on Twitter, by the way, his video where surely we can agree no state can be allowed. Let's check this one out.

B (25:44)

Surely we can all agree no state can be allowed to rip children from their parents arms and transition them to a new gender against the parents will. Who would believe that we're even talking about. We must ban it and we must ban it immediately. Nobody stands up. These people are crazy. I'm telling you. They're crazy. Boy, oh boy, we're lucky we have a country with people like this. Democrats are destroying our country. But we've stopped it just in the nick of time, didn't we?

A (26:48)

Well, look, I mean, it's, it's, it's hard to argue there's not some good politics in that and that Donald Trump takes this issue, which is, I mean, look like the Democrats do, and they got aware that they all lost their minds over the last 15 years. But Donald Trump is able to get on the side here of an issue that probably 90 plus percent of people agree with at this point. That, you know, it's not even, it's not even like he's his starting point by being like, there's no such thing as trans people or nobody should transition or you should be mean to people who are trans or something like that. But just going like, yeah, like some other adult can't decide that we're going to transition your kid without your knowledge. And, you know, now, of course, obviously the Democrats, it's this weird dance that they do where they don't want to clap for anything that Donald Trump says. But then of course, the game is to just say something that's really popular and then they don't stand and then go, well, look, they're all sitting for this. I understand it's kind of dumb, but there is something powerful about pointing to all of them sitting down and going, especially since we know, like, a lot of them really did believe this at least, or they would have said maybe they never believed it, but they would have promoted it a few years ago and they don't want to right now. But there is something, you know, undeniably powerful about that message then going, look, man, these guys are out of their minds. Like, that's how far gone they are. So I understand where that probably made some Trump people happy. It's not bad politics. Take an issue that's real popular, you cast them as the ones against it. And I don't know, I guess maybe it's just my perspective on this, but I do feel like there is a little bit of a. Like there's only so much mileage that you can get out of beating up on the crazy woke shit after we've all kind of rejected it as a country. You know, like, this is, we live in an Internet world where things are moving very fast these days. I understand not everyone does, but, like, it is like a huge, huge percentage of the American people at this point who get their news and their information and their entertainment from the Internet and This was just like, this was like 27 things ago. You know, like Matt Walsh's what is a Woman Documentary came out, like, many years ago at this point. And that are. That argument has been successfully won by many of us. And the. The woke insanity has been largely rejected. Now, I understand, like, if you got your kid in like, a New York City or San Francisco school or something like that, I understand there might be pockets where it's still very much alive and well. But I guess personally, I have the feeling, I wonder how many other people have the feeling where it's like, there's only so much credit I can give you for this. You know, like, this is just, oh, okay. It's kind of like, oh, you got nothing new to say, so you're going back to your last win. I do feel some degree of that. But regardless, I think that was a powerful moment for Trump. And then this, I think, is probably the best moment that Donald Trump had, which is. This is the last one that I sent you from Colin Rugg. Natalie. I thought this might have been Donald Trump's best moment of the entire State of the Union.

B (30:27)

If you agree with this statement, then stand up and show your support. The first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens.

A (32:01)

All right? So, I mean, you could see there how long the applause lasted for. But look, that is. That was a great moment for Donald Trump. Now, again, just to be clear here, I'm, like, separating these things into, like, just like, analyzing how effective something was versus, like, my opinion on it. Right? So, like, if you want, like, my opinion on it, I think it's like a. Yeah, I mean, obviously I agree with the statement that he made. It does almost feel to me a little bit like I thought like, the America first thing was we're not supposed to fight any more stupid wars. And now you're trying to make the America first thing just like, whether you care about illegal, you know, illegal immigrants or US Citizens or whatever. But that's almost kind of less important in this moment. The thing is, like, look, the, the Democrats, if you're going to, if you're going to play this game, which is like we're. We're going to sit on our hands the whole time, then you just open yourself up to him doing this to you. And, you know, it's not like they didn't never stand. There were a few different moments throughout the thing where they stood. They stood for the hockey team, they stood for getting, you know, Israeli hostages back. I think they stood for part of the, like, Iran war propaganda stuff that we're about to get to. But regardless, you're just like, if you're the Democrats there, it's like, you gotta stand for that one. You guys, you're gonna have to stand for that one. Like, you just can't not. He made it so simple. He goes, stand up if you agree that your job is to prioritize US Citizens over people who illegally entered our country. And you're gonna all sit there for that. God damn, man. Are the Democrats bad at politics? Because, like, I don't know, I'm just. First of all, it is if, if you actually feel that way, that is profoundly, you know, treacherous and awful and horrible, but my God, then at least lie, at least pretend that's not how you feel. You know, this is such a bad moment. It's like, this was Trump. In my opinion, this was his moment of the speech, and only because he forced the Democrats into such an unforced error. Like, this shit is so bad that it's like, this is the type of thing that, despite how bad Trump's doing, is like, the Republicans only hope to hang on to power, to do okay in the midterms, maybe when the presidency in 28 is if the Democrats are sitting here like, no, we care about illegal immigrants more than we care about U.S. citizens. And, you know, there's just, there, there's, you know, you just have to stand for that one. It also, you know, if you're going to be like, I don't know, you're going to be smart about this. And I remember I said this. So Donald Trump came and spoke at the Libertarian Party national convention in 2024, in the summer of 2024. And I, I, I spoke before him at that event. And I, and I was like, you know, I was out on the floor with everybody. I was out on the delegation floor and all that stuff. And, and I was saying to everybody, I said in my speech, I said to everybody I could talk to and, you know, trying to use whatever influence I have in the Libertarian Party. And I was like, guys, look, this is cool. The president's coming and speaking at our party's convention. Just here's what you have to do, right? Be cool. And by be cool, I don't even mean that. Doesn't mean you have to cheer for him. It doesn't even mean you can't boo him. Boo him if he says something that deserves to be booed. But don't just boo him when he walks out there or just in or just boo through his speech because first of all, on one level, that just, it makes you look like an asshole and kind of like a child. It's like, oh, what are you, like, you're, what, you're now casting yourself as like the pink haired male feminist with a bullhorn shutting down Jordan Peterson speeches or something like that. Now, I think I said something to that effect in my speech before Trump got up. And you know, I was like, like, it's, it's fine. This is what I was telling everyone. Like, I was like, dude, it's fine if we boo him, but let him say something that deserves to be booed and then let the story go. Donald Trump tried to say this bullshit, but libertarians booed him for that. But you don't want the story to just be like, oh, you weren't even willing to listen to him. And so, and so anyway, I'm just saying, with the Democrats, it's like, if you're going to do this thing where it's like, we want to demonstrate that we are not with this guy or we're against him, okay, fine, but you got to like, pick your spots. You can't just sit there as he asks for the most bait. Look, this, this America, first thing that he's talking about. This is what's characterized the entire Donald Trump political moment of the last decade. You guys just allowed him to get you on camera, sitting on your hands while he asks if your loyalty is to America or not. And it just, again, it just makes you look bad. It's really just, again, the Democrats are really just like classless and stupid. And it seems more and more like they're just four classless and stupid people. But the whole thing, like yelling and getting kicked out, this does nothing but make you look bad. He's the President of the United States of America. You're supposed to be elected representatives. You're all supposedly pretending to be public servants. Just be respectful, stand up and clap. When it's something you agree with, you come out much better. Because think if Donald Trump says that and then all the Democrats stand up and clap and you're like, yeah, what are you talking about? Of course we all agree with America over them, but the fact is they didn't. And I got to say, there's moments like this that really do hurt politicians down the line. You know, there's, there's these, these moments, like you might think it's just a little, you know, kind of gimmick, but I remember watching it must have been in 2019. It was one of the one of the first Democratic primary debates. So this is get, we're getting ready for the 2020 election. But this is like before COVID and everything hit. So we're just thinking 2020 is going to be, we thought it was going to be an election year would be the big thing about that year. Ended up being one of the smallest things about that year. But so it was at one of the first debates, all the candidates are still up there. You got Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and Amy Klobuchor and Pete Buda Judge and Bernie Sanders, of course, and probably a few more who I, who I can't remember. And so they're all on stage and in this primary and this is also in 2019, if you can imagine. So this is like the height of wokeism and anti Trump hysteria in the first administration. And you know, before COVID before the vaccine, before Ukraine, before that was where all the, the, before Black Lives Matter of the summer of 2020, before all of that stuff where they were at was this like, hate Donald Trump, his immigration agenda is terrible. Who can be more to the left to try to win the primary? And the moderator asks, you know, raise your hands if you believe that, that illegal immigrants should get health care paid for by the taxpayer. And they all raised their hands. And I remember immediately being like, yo, that is going to be an albatross around the entire party's neck. And it was, it was a huge thing that kept getting brought up over and over again as really just like a really stupid unforced error that none of them had the, had the wherewithal to go. This might hurt a little bit in the primary, but this will really help long term. So, like, in the similar sense, a lot of times people in the State of the Union, in the opposition party are trying to go, hey, what's the most anti Trump posture I can take here to show that I'm the strongest resistance without thinking like, dude, long term, I, I mean that's just, it's a, it's a, the optics are really bad. Let's just say the optics of being said, can you just stand up if you prioritize U.S. citizens and sitting there throughout the whole thing. Yeah, the optics of that are bad. That is a, that's a, a classic Donald Trump PR marketing dub. Can't argue, I really can't argue anything else on that one. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Knick Knack. Knick Knack is a fully dissolvable nicotine lozenge. A lip brick, if you will. Made with just six premium ingredients clearly listed on the back so you know exactly what's in it. 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All right, there's one more I wanted to hit before we go into the. The Iran stuff. Okay. Yeah, let's hit the. The Frank Lunt's tweet and started with this was a misstep. That's Frank Lutz talking though. And you can always ignore him because he's wrong about stuff. But let's see, let's watch the clip.

B (42:41)

Now, the same people in this chamber who voted for those disasters suddenly use the word affordability. A word. They just used it. Somebody gave it to them knowing full well that they caused and created the increased prices that all of our citizens had to endure. You caused that problem. You caused that problem. They knew their statements were a lie. They knew it. They knew their statements were a dirty, rotten lie. Their policies created the high prices. Our policies are rapidly ending them. We are doing really well. Those prices are plummeting downward. The price of eggs is down 60%. Madam Secretary, thank you. The cost of chicken, butter, fruit, hotels, automobiles, rent is lower today than when I took office by a lot. And even beef, which was very high, is starting to come down significantly. Let's hold on a little while we're getting it down.

A (44:11)

All right, I Well, I hate to ever agree with Frank Luntz, but that. I thought that was a really bad moment for Donald Trump. And I, I thought it was interesting. Like, when I saw him when I was watching it last Night Live, as he got into that, you're kind of like, oh, all right, well, this is. Hey, what do you got here? Because this is the issue, actually, that Americans care about. And you. If you saw in almost all of the special elections where Democrats have won and in, as we've covered on the show quite a lot in the, in the big elections that back in November, they won, they won the governor, New Jersey and the mayor in New York, and what was it, Virginia? I think the. The governor there took over. All of them ran on unaffordability. You know, like, this is the big issue. And so when Donald Trump starts jumping into that. Let's talk about that. You're like, okay, this is where you got to have a compelling pitch. And the. I really. I mean, it's not the. I guess the worst politics in the world, we all remember the worst years of price inflation were under Joe Biden. So he goes, this is your fault. This is your fault. It's not my fault. It's your fault. I mean, there's perhaps a little bit of juice that you can get out of that. Like a little bit of juice out of saying, look, remember how bad it was with these guys? But when he's saying, as you'll notice as he's going, it was your policies, he never tells you what policies. He never says what created the inflation. And there's a reason for that, because obviously, like, it would implicate him very heavily if he did that. And then we go, oh, you're doing the same thing. And so Donald Trump here puts himself in what. I just. Look, sometimes in politics, like, just in life in general, but this is very easy to read in politics. Sometimes you just see when someone's putting themselves into, like, a certain framing of a position, and you go, dude, that's the losing framing. And there is something inherently about when Donald Trump starts going, they brought the prices up, but the prices are plummeting. Now we're getting them way down. Now it's your fault, and they're coming way down. Okay, there's two things you do when you do that. You essentially tell everybody that who really cares about the unaffordability crisis. Like, yo, why the fuck are prices so goddamn high and everything's so unaffordable. You're telling them that prices are coming way down when they're not feeling that because that's not true. And then the guy who is in charge, you're like, hey, you know, if you, if your number one concern, as is the case for tens of millions of Americans, if your number one concern is that the price of everything these days is so expensive that you really can't afford to like live a decent middle class life, and then you're like, okay, so what's the guy at the top saying? And you go, oh, he's saying it's their fault. And also everything's great. That is a losing message. In fact, that's, that's a message that's guaranteed for you to lose. And it is kind of interesting to watch. But how much Donald Trump, as we've talked about on the show as well, how much Donald Trump has now been forced into the exact same defenses that Joe Biden was using for his economy? Like down to the fact that they go, no, the economy is really great. You guys are just under the impression that it's a bad economy. The problem is we haven't explained it to you and you still for some reason think it's a really bad economy. Oh, look, record high stock markets, the same thing Joe Biden used to do down to the thing where they pick five different, you know, categories of, of foods and say the price of this or that. Do you remember, if you remember, in the height of Joe Biden's like price inflation, there was, we used to make fun of it on the show where they'd being, they'd be like, hot dog buns are down 30%. And you're like, yeah, but overall groceries are up 20%. So like, okay, yeah, you found one thing, but what are you going to do? Like, you know, people who used to be paying like 150, $200 to fill up a cart are now paying, you know what I mean, like 270 to fill up that cart. You sit there and tell them the price of something is down, but they're like, dude, I know what my budget is. I know what I used to spend. And the fact is that prices are up and you can, you can pick your few that you like that are down, but that's just not, I don't know the message, particularly once you're, you're entering into your sixth year as president, the message that it's all those guys fault is just, I think not nearly enough. And then to say that you're actually bringing the prices down, that's, that's not a winning message. I thought it was very weak. Okay, so let's moving into the stuff that I was most interested in for this speech because I think it's the most immediate catastrophe. You know, I said on our last episode when I was previewing this, I was like, well, you know, Donald Trump has quite a task here, which is, you know, there's this wildly unpopular war, which is, which it seems like he's made the decision we're about to fight that is clearly on behalf of a foreign country that is not very popular right now. The war is opposed by super majorities of the American people, and yet it looks like he's about to go ahead and do it. And so, hey, this is where he's going to have to sell that war. And, you know, I don't know, I, we can play it and look at how he did on this. But if you ask me, I think he failed miserably. He. It's, it's just like there's pure war propaganda in here. Just pure hasbro played straight up lies. And I gotta say, I, you know, I'm poisoning the well a little here before we play the clip, but I thought it was just, you know, maybe I'm biased from my perspective, but a thoroughly unconvincing case that he made. You know, you're going to tell me that, like, there's been really no propaganda campaign that's laid down for the war. And this is the propaganda campaign we got. All right, this is the Dave Benner one. But yeah, here, let's play this clip with the protests.

B (51:08)

They've killed at least it looks like 32,000 protests. 32,000 protesters in their own country. They shot them and hung them. We stopped them from hanging a lot of them with the threat of serious violence. But this is.

A (51:27)

Okay, let's pause it right there. Some terrible people. Okay, so Donald Trump is going to start with what really is like a whopper. 32,000 people have been killed in Iran. Now, just to be clear here, because we've talked about this a bit on the show, there is no evidence has been presented at all to indicate anything like these numbers. In fact, I mean, I remember, well, I was reading what was in the Wall Street Journal. They had, the CIA had put the number, I think it's 6,000, they were claiming. And my feeling was like that number was probably exaggerated. If that's what the CIA is claiming, it's probably less than that. There was the, I'm blanking on the name of the, the ngo. That's what was, you know, let me see if I could find it because I think I had the article up recently, I was just reading it yesterday. But yeah, I don't know if I'm gonna be able to find it. But it was the one. It's the NED funded American based NGO that's always like the most hawkish. And I think they had revised the numbers up to 6,500 is what they were claiming. Look, the thing with the Iran protest is, look, the people who are claiming that Iran killed 32,000 people. I've seen people claiming 60, 70, I saw some people claiming over 100,000 people were killed. There were a bunch of the Zio bots on Twitter were claiming that more people, this was their claim, that more people have been killed in these Iranian protests than in Gaza. And like immediately when you hear that, you would think, you would think that would just like, that would trigger enough of an eyebrow raise for someone to be like, maybe we shouldn't go with such an outlandish claim. Because like, you know, I don't know if you just like, if you follow wars, which I've been doing for many years at this point now, you just kind of know like how much military action it takes before you get to numbers like that. And so you're like, yo, what are you alleging here? Are you alleging that the Ayatollah started carpet bombing Tehran? Like, how would you get, you're the, the protests weren't going on for that long. You're saying, you're, you're telling me, Donald Trump, that we got to 32,000 deaths, we got to like a wars number of death in, in a few days, in maybe a week. So okay, what you're alleging here is that because if you go look through in World War II, like in the worst massacres in World War II, the worst ones, like I forget the name, it was the huge massacre of Jews in Ukraine. I think the number was like around 30,000. And it's like one of the worst massacres in human history. And so like what they're alleging here is that one of the worst massacres in human history just happened in Iran a couple weeks ago. But the thing is like when all those huge massacres happen, what happens is there's evidence of that and we've been provided with none. Like you might know, like, what are we basing this off of? There's like the free press said that an anonymous source said it, or you saw one picture where there was like a dozen body bags or something like that around now. Now look, it is, there is no question, I think that people have been killed over there in these protests. But if you actually read the reporting on it, it's also, and our own government has admitted that there were a bunch of military and police that were killed, also meaning there were, these were violent riots and there were people died in them. But like, that difference really matters here. It really matters. Like, wait, what numbers are we talking about? And what was the manner in which they were executed? Because, like, are you saying that, like, people were out there peacefully protesting and then the, the Iranian military came out and said, get on your knees and executed all of them? Or are you saying there were violent clashes and people died and like, there's a big difference between these two. But for Donald Trump, as he's trying to sell a war to just get up in the State of the Union and just say 30,000 people have been executed. But it's, this is George W. Levels of fucking war propaganda just trying to get whatever they can, just like desperately trying to get you to be like, oh my God, some horrible thing is going on over there. Meanwhile, that's not what the war is about. They're not even really pretending that's what the war is about. They're just kind of adding it in as an extra. Like, also this. Also get emotional about this. So maybe you support this war. Whereas, like, then they get into like, oh, the nukes and the intercontinental ballistic missiles and the proxy. Oh yeah, in other words, Israel. That's what it's really about. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Crowd Health, which is an amazing company. They've been sponsor on this show for many years and I love having them on board. Well, let me ask you this. 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And then they committed one of the biggest massacres in human history. But it would have been worse if I hadn't kept him in check. Like, Jesus Christ. That's your argument? Okay, there, let's keep lying.

B (58:42)

They've already developed missiles that can threaten Europe and our bases overseas. And they're working to build missiles that will soon reach the United States of America. After Midnight Hammer, they were warned to make no future attempts to rebuild their weapons program, in particular, nuclear weapons. Yet they continue starting it all over. We wiped it out. And they want to start all over again. And at this moment, again pursuing their sinister ambitions. We are in negotiations with them. They want to make a deal. But we haven't heard those secret words. We will never have a nuclear weapon. My preference.

A (59:26)

All right, let's pause it right there. I mean, again, just like, sorry, man, I don't know. The Trump loyalists out there, sorry, have whatever problem you want with me. When people get up and they just fucking say, Dick Cheney, shit, I'm gonna fucking call them out for that. This is total bullshit. Total war propaganda. Absolute nonsense. Just listen to the language. Even, like, here. And he goes, they're working on intercontinental ballistics that can very soon hit the United States of America. Like, what? In other words, they don't have missiles that can hit America and the, that there's any like the idea that Iran, from sitting in Iran, like, let's say they developed a few missiles that could hit, you know, southern Florida or whatever. Let's say they got that capability. What then they just launch them? And what do we do in the meantime? First off, we shoot down that missile and then we completely light up a. Like there's no. The idea that they would just like we're going to commit national suicide to maybe ding part of your gigantic country with one missile. It's just ridiculous. And they po. This is just. Oh, the idea that Iran poses some threat to Europe or to the United States of America. I mean, who is buying that? Who is buying that? There. There's been an ayatollah in charge of Iran since 1979, meaning before I was born, before most of you listening were born, or if you were born before that, you know, maybe four or five years or 10 years, but without almost all of your life you've been living with this regime there. They pose no threat to you whatsoever. And then the second thing, I mean, look again, anyone following this is just a question of whether you follow this shit or you don't follow this. Donald Trump said that. I just haven't heard those words that we, we promise we won't make nukes. The top of the Iranian government said that yesterday before this speech. They've said that the entire way through. It was like in your own annual threat assessment the year that you launched a war against them. They've said up and down constantly that it's against their religious views to make nuclear weapons. Now, if you want to argue that you can't trust them, okay, fine. I mean, I'm not, I'm not arguing you can always trust a mullah. But if your argument here is that I haven't heard those words, that's just a fucking lie. You're just lying to get your country into a war for Israel. It's really kind of up there with the most despicable things you can do. All right, let's keep.

B (62:23)

My preference is to solve this problem through diplomacy. But one thing is certain. I will never allow the world's number one sponsor of terror, which they are by far, to have a nuclear weapon, can't let that happen.

A (62:43)

Okay, here, let's pause it for a second there. And I mean, look like, I guess there's your most compelling piece of war propaganda. But again, what is it? It's the Iraq war propaganda all over again. You can't, can't allow A state that has nukes to pass them off to terrorists who might want to hit America. Right. But what's the problem with it? Like, what was the problem with Saddam Hussein? Where they go, look, Saddam Hussein's developing nuclear weapons and he was in on 9, 11 and he's friends with bin Laden and al Qaeda. And so we can't let him develop a nuclear weapon because then he could hand a nuclear weapon off to Al Qaeda and they could nuke Kansas. Okay, right. This was Condoleezza's rice. We can't let, what was the line? We can't let the warning be in the form of a mushroom cloud. Right. So, okay, the, the major flaw there was that number one, Saddam was not working on nuclear weapons. He didn't have nuclear weapons. He wasn't friends with Osama bin Laden and he wasn't friends with Al Qaeda. That was the problem with the propaganda said it was all complete lies. Like just none of it was true. And well, what are the elements we have here with Iran? Oh yeah, they don't have a nuclear weapon. They're not trying to get a nuclear weapon as far as any of us know. There's a greater likelihood, I guess now they certainly weren't last summer after when you attacked them. And as far as they're the number one sponsor of terrorism, this is the age old, this is the Karl Rove trick. Okay, they sponsor terrorism, but for real insiders. And only the real experts like me and Douglas Murray know this type of information. But the real experts know that there are certain and skins over there. There are Sunnis and Shiites and the Ayatollah is a Shiite, Iranian is a majority Shiite. Iran is a majority Shiite country. And Al Qaeda and ISIS are Sunnis. They are the ones who commit terrorist attacks in Europe and in the United States of America. They are the ones were afraid of getting. Now, how is Iran's relationship with Al Qaeda and isis? Oh yeah, they're mortal enemies that fight brutal wars against each other. So who are the terrorists who Iran has relationships with? Well, obviously they have a very close relationship with Hezbollah. They've also done business with Hamas and with the Houthis, but none of those guys are attacking Europe or the United States of America. So whose problem is Hezbollah? Oh yeah, it's Israel's problem. That's the issue they have. So this, this stuff about the, the get they, you know, their work, the nuke that they don't have, they're going to give to the terrorists who aren't the terrorists who we have a beef with anyway, let's.

B (65:47)

And no nation should ever doubt America's resolve. We have the most powerful military on earth. I rebuilt the military in my first term. We're going to continue to do so. Also, we just approved a trillion dollar budget. We have no choice. We have to be strong because hopefully we will seldom have to use this great power that we built together. It's really called peace through strength and it's been very, very effective.

A (66:20)

All right, you can pause it there and we can cut it off there. That was the end of it. Yeah, peace through strength has been very effective. Peace through strength is Ronald Reagan's old slogan. That was the idea was you have to have a really, really strong military. And that way, you know, no one's gonna with you because you're really strong. And that way if you give an order, you say, you better do this. I want you to do this. Not that they're gonna do it because they know you're strong, you're not messing around. And that way you actually have less war. You know, this is the peace through strength argument, that in fact, if you're in a weak position, then someone might attack you and then you have to fight a war. If you're a weak situation, you tell someone to do something, they may not do it, and then the only thing to get them to do it is to fight a war. So actually, you know, being weak is the pro war. You got to be really, really strong. This is the brilliant logic of peace through strength. We need bloated defense budgets, you know, like, like record setting. We're going to spend over a trillion dollars on defense. Peace through strength. That's how, that's how you get peace, is to keep spending more and more on weapons of war. And it's, it's, as Donald Trump said, it's worked out really well. It's got an amazing track record since peace through strength, you know, since Ronald Reagan, we've been at war the entire time. Turns out what you get when you have record high military budgets is permanent militarism, not peace. What a shot. It's so counterintuitive. But turns out when you give the military industrial complex everything they want, you actually get more war, which who could. I mean, we should have put our brightest minds to that, that figured it out. Somehow we missed it. You know, look at the end of the day here, Donald Trump had to sell this war. He failed spectacularly. He fell on his face. I mean, this is just. Look at the bottom line. You've never seen a president come up to a State of the Union and simultaneously, it's like in the same way that he simultaneously goes, they committed one of the biggest massacres in human history, but also, they didn't go any further because they were scared of me. Then he's also going to go, he's going to try to brag, like, have you ever seen a president brag about completely obliterating an opponent? And then in the next breath say, now we got to go deal with that same opponent. First of all, I'd like to take credit for completely destroying Nation X. Also, we got to go fight a war with Nation X. They're a big threat. Which one is it, man? Are they developing nukes and. And missiles that can hit America and Europe, or are they defeated and obliterated? Anyway, the. The war propaganda is just always too easy to smash. Anyway, that's my thoughts on the State of the Union. Curious what you guys got. What you guys think of it? Leave a Comment Like Subscribe Share sign up@partoftheproblem.com all that good stuff. Come see me out on the road. I'll be out here. Not on the road for me at home in New Jersey this weekend. Robbie the Fire Bern, Chris Vega. We'll be hanging out the whole weekend. Hope some of you guys come out there. See you then. Comic Dave Smith.com for tickets. Catch you next time. Peace.