Pastor Louie Giglio sits down with his wife, Shelley Giglio, for a heartfelt conversation about what it means to walk through dark seasons together while leading both a ministry and a family. Together, they open up about the power of presence in marriage, how to support a spouse facing difficulty, and the importance of building a life anchored in the Word of God. Shelley shares the rhythms of Scripture reading that keep her grounded, her philosophy of work, and the eternal perspective that has shaped the way she lives, leads, and loves people well.