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If nothing else, this archive episode demonstrates that the more things change, the more they stay the same.

Originally released March 7, 2006

Things are getting very interesting in the Middle East, so it's fitting that our interview tonight features Israel-based author and investigative journalist Barry Chamish. It was a discussion we plan to continue in the near future; Barry is recovering from a mild stroke, and we thank him for his brief overview of the situation in Israel, Iraq, and Iran.

Show topics:

• The Pipeline to War: Daniel Pipes and the Cartoon Intifada
• Dubai ports deal is nothing compared to Ptech'
• Michael Chertoff and the sabotage of the Ptech investigation by Jeff Wells
• Ptech Raid/Investigation archive
• Iraq's 'Hutu Radio': Who's trying to stir up a civil war?
• The time-warp family that walks on all fours (yeah, right)