438: How to Make the Most of a Week With Nothing to Do But Declutter

Summary

Podcast Summary: Dana K. White: A Slob Comes Clean

Episode: 438: How to Make the Most of a Week With Nothing to Do But Declutter
Release Date: December 26, 2024
Host: Dana K. White
Description: Reality-Based Cleaning, Organizing, and Decluttering

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1. Introduction and Book Announcement

Dana K. White kicks off the episode by sharing exciting news about her upcoming book.
Quote:

"My newest book that I have been working on for the last five years comes out on February 11th."
— [00:04]

She provides a glimpse into the book's spiritual dimension, emphasizing that it delves into her "desalabification" process. Dana encourages listeners to pre-order her book, Jesus Doesn't Care About Your Messy House, and highlights the available bonuses.
Quote:

"At the end of this episode, I'll share more about it, but for now, you can claim pre-order bonuses now at aslobchemsclean.com Jesus."
— [00:16]

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2. Maximizing a Week for Decluttering

Dana introduces the main topic: effectively utilizing a week dedicated to decluttering. She acknowledges that while not everyone may have a full week to spare, the strategies discussed can be adapted to fit any schedule.
Quote:

"The process we're going to use... works whether you've got 10 minutes at the end of the day or an entire week with nothing else on the calendar."
— [01:58]

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3. The No Mess Decluttering Method

Central to the episode is Dana's No Mess Decluttering Method, a five-step process designed to ensure consistent progress without overwhelming messes.

a. The Pitfall of Misjudging Time

Dana addresses a common misconception: believing that a week solely for decluttering will drag endlessly. She shares a personal anecdote about painting a dining room wall, highlighting how underestimated time can lead to frustration.
Quote:

"It felt like I have all the time in the world, but it actually flies by."
— [02:43]

She emphasizes the importance of not falling into the trap of thinking, "This time will be different," unless you're using her structured method.
Quote:

"This time will be different because of the no mess method, not because of the additional time you think you have."
— [11:57]

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4. Implementing the Visibility Rule

A key component of her method is the Visibility Rule, which prioritizes decluttering the most visible areas of the home first. This approach builds momentum by showcasing immediate, noticeable improvements.

Quote:

"The visibility rule is how to prioritize your decluttering projects. Start in the most visible space in your home."
— [15:59]

Dana explains that transforming visible spaces not only enhances the home's aesthetics but also motivates continued decluttering by providing tangible results.
Quote:

"Seeing the progress and experiencing the impact of the work you've done is the best encouragement to continue decluttering."
— [19:25]

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5. Step-by-Step Decluttering Process

Dana outlines her five-step process, providing actionable steps to guide listeners through their decluttering journey.

Step 1: Take a Trash Tour

Begin with a thorough walk-through of the most visible areas to collect and dispose of all trash. This initial step removes immediate clutter and sets a clean foundation.
Quote:

"Start with your most visible area... prioritize according to visibility and throw away trash."
— [28:13]

Step 2: Easy Stuff

Address items that have a designated place but are misplaced. This "procrastina clutter" includes things like clean laundry scattered around or gift wrap supplies left out during the holidays.
Quote:

"Put away things that already know what to do with... it's decision-free."
— [30:27]

Step 3: Donations

Identify obvious donations by removing items that no longer serve a purpose or bring joy. Dana urges listeners to "go hard on the obvious donations."
Quote:

"Is there anything here that I already know needs to be decluttered? Obvious donations."
— [35:16]

Step 4: Decluttering Questions

For items that aren't trash or obvious donations, Dana introduces two essential questions to determine their fate:

1. "If I needed this item, where would I look for it first?"
2. "If I needed this item, would it occur to me that I already have one?"
   Quote:

"If I needed this item, where would I look for it first?"
— [40:38]

This step helps in assigning a permanent home to items, ensuring that they are stored logically and reducing future clutter.

Step 5: Consolidate and Final Decisions

Assess whether the current space can accommodate all necessary items. If not, prioritize keeping only the most essential or favorite items and remove the rest.
Quote:

"If I try to keep more stuff, then there's no hope of my home being under control."
— [50:36]

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6. Encouragement and Additional Resources

Dana offers additional support through her Patreon group and Take Your House Back course. She encourages listeners to join these communities for ongoing motivation and structured guidance.

Quote:

"If you're looking for encouragement from other people, check out my Patreon group."
— [53:07]

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7. Conclusion and Final Book Promotion

Dana wraps up the episode by reiterating details about her new book, Jesus Doesn't Care About Your Messy House. She explains that the book explores God's grace through the lens of her decluttering experiences, aiming to remove shame and promote personal growth.

Quote:

"Ultimately, this is a book about God's grace, what it means, and how it plays out in life."
— [55:02]

She highlights the pre-order bonuses, including a preview of the first two chapters, a five-day Bible study, and exclusive access to live Q&A sessions tailored to various reader experiences.

Quote:

"Pre-order bonuses include a preview of the book, a five-day Bible study, and an invitation to a live Q&A exclusively for those who have pre-ordered."
— [55:51]

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Key Takeaways

• No Mess Decluttering Method: A structured, five-step process ensuring consistent decluttering without creating additional mess.
• Visibility Rule: Start decluttering with the most visible areas to build momentum and witness immediate progress.
• Adaptability: The method is flexible, suitable for those with limited time or an entire week dedicated to decluttering.
• Mental Clarity: Removing clutter enhances both the physical space and mental well-being.
• Support Systems: Utilizing communities like Patreon and comprehensive courses can provide additional motivation and structure.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• "My newest book comes out on February 11th." — [00:04]
• "The process we're going to use... works whether you've got 10 minutes... or an entire week." — [01:58]
• "This time will be different because of the no mess method." — [11:57]
• "Start in the most visible space in your home." — [15:59]
• "Seeing the progress... is the best encouragement to continue decluttering." — [19:25]
• "Put away things that already know what to do with... it's decision-free." — [30:27]
• "If I needed this item, where would I look for it first?" — [40:38]
• "If I try to keep more stuff, then there's no hope of my home being under control." — [50:36]
• "Ultimately, this is a book about God's grace." — [55:02]
• "Pre-order bonuses include a preview of the book, a five-day Bible study, and an invitation to a live Q&A." — [55:51]

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Dana K. White's episode provides a comprehensive and compassionate guide to decluttering, blending practical strategies with personal insights. Whether you're overwhelmed by mess or simply seeking a more organized space, her No Mess Decluttering Method offers a structured path to achieving a cleaner, more functional home.

Transcript

[Dana K. White]

Hey y'all.

[Unknown]

My newest book that I have been working on for the Last Five Years.

[Dana K. White]

Comes out on February 11th.

[Unknown]

In this book I am finally sharing the spiritual side of my desalabification process.

[Dana K. White]

The title of the book is Jesus.

[Unknown]

Doesn'T care about your messy House.

[Dana K. White]

At the end of this episode, I'll share more about it, but for now I'll just say that you can claim pre order bonuses now at aslobchemsclean.com Jesus.

[Unknown]

Welcome to a Slob Comes Clean, the Podcast. I am Dana K. White.

[Dana K. White]

I share my personal DES lobbification process.

[Unknown]

As I figure out ways to keep my own home under control.

[Dana K. White]

I share the truth about cleaning and organizing strategies that actually work in real life for real people. People who don't love cleaning and organizing. Thanks for joining me today. This is podcast number 4:38 and I think I'm going to call it how.

[Unknown]

To make the Most of a Week.

[Dana K. White]

With Nothing to do but declutter. Y'all, it's December 26th. Christmas was yesterday. Or I know it's it's Boxing Day for some people. It's also like, is it the 24th in Europe when you celebrate Christmas? I can't remember. I remember having students when I taught internationally who explained it to me and I have now forgotten. Anyway, whatever it was, whatever you've been doing lately, I'm glad you're here. The reason that we're talking about this this week is, is that for a lot of people you might have some extra motivation to declutter this week. And some of you have some extra time. Not all of you do. I don't want to pretend that you have a week with nothing to do but declutter, but this is one of those questions that we have, right? Because if it's not this week for you, if you're working full time this week or whatever, whenever you do have a week, you're like, oh my goodness, I've got all this time to declutter. What do I do?

[Unknown]

Right?

[Dana K. White]

So listen to this anytime or use it for whatever amount of time that you have. Because the process that we're going to use, spoiler alert. It's the no mess decluttering method. Process, method, whatever. That's my five step progress and only progress no mess decluttering method. It works whether you've got 10 minutes at the end of the day after you got home and you're exhausted after work, or if you have the entire week with nothing else on the calendar and you have been thinking all year that you were Going to get a ton of decluttering done this week. This is the process that will work in either of those situations.

[Unknown]

And I'm just going to say it.

[Dana K. White]

I think it's the best process for either of those situations. Okay. And that's one of the things I want to talk about is don't. The hardest thing about weeks, when you think that you have nothing to do but declutter. One of the hardest things about those weeks is that it feels like they're going to go on forever. Right? I mean, you think about it. Think about different times where you're like, oh, we went on vacation for two weeks, and it feels like that's gonna feel like forever. Like the first day or two, you're going, wow, I can't believe that we're really gonna be here for so long. And it kind of, you know, maybe one of the days feels like it kind of goes slowly and you're like, wow, I just. I think this is gonna go on forever. It never goes on forever. Right? That's not how time works. It's actually very important to use the progress and only progress method because you will keep on making progress and you won't put yourself in a situation where you miss estimated the amount of time that you were going to have. Right. Like, I know for me, my kids went. I forget which age they were, but I specifically remember a time where I painted one wall in my dining room. This is years ago. I'm not cool enough to know if accent walls are still a thing or not. I really don't know. Anyway, at the time, I painted one wall and then I had pictures printed out. I framed them. I think I even painted the frames and I hung them up, and that was my dining room decor for probably 10 years. But I remember that being a week when my kids weren't going to be home. I don't remember if my mom had them, if they were at camp, whatever, but it felt like I. Especially because I was in a phase of my life where I had little kids with me 24, seven, every other day of the entire year. It felt like, I can't believe I have so much time and what happens, it flies by. And also during that time, you know what I wanted to do? I wanted to watch a couple of the shows that I didn't watch when I had toddlers around or I wanted to make something fun to eat that I either my kids wouldn't like or would like too much and would want all of it and blah, blah, blah. I mean, like, the reality is this week with quote unquote nothing to do. But declutter is not a real thing, right? Because life does keep going. Maybe you do and maybe you will throw yourself in. You're going to make so much progress. If you knew if you use the no mess method and it really is that kind of a week. But what if it's not? What if it's the kind of week where on day two you realize, oh, you know, I didn't remember we were going to also do this and we were going to go watch a movie every day and then we're going to do this or whatever. Whatever happens this week, if you will follow the no mess method. That is my method from decluttering at.

[Unknown]

The speed of life.

[Dana K. White]

The five Step Process. If you'd like to get a printable for free of that, go to a slob comes clean.com 5f I V E. You can sign up for my newsletter, get a free printable of that to keep on track. But that process following those five steps is going to mean whatever happens this week, it works.

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[Dana K. White]

So what should you do this week? Well, it is if you're listening to this in real time as I'm recording this, the reason why I'm talking about it is that this is the week when everybody goes decluttering bananas all across the world. Right? And I believe, because I, I know this more than most people do because this is my business. And so I see the traffic just go insane basically starting about 6:00 on, in the evening on December 25th. I mean, like at the end of the day when things are just kind of starting to die down, people are maybe coming back home from their relative's house, whatever. And I know everybody's in different situations. Some of you are not even home this week.

[Unknown]

Right?

[Dana K. White]

I get it. But all this new stuff has been coming in. Maybe there's been parties and all this stuff going on for a month now. And it's time where maybe you are out of your routine and the kids maybe aren't in school or you do have a couple of days off of work or whatever, and it's like, okay, all the excess is starting to make me bananas. And I've also got a little bit of, you know, out of the routine time. And so those two things combine and make it just feel like, oh, this is the time to declutter. Right. It is the week after Christmas. And for those of you who celebrate, we have all different kinds of opinions and feelings about when to undecorate. I am not here to tell you when to undecorate. I personally generally leave my stuff up until after New Year's Eve, usually New Year's Day, ish. Usually within a couple days after that. The Saturday after that is when it usually is. I will undecorate. But I'm not a stickler about it. I'm not a stickler about exactly when. I know lots of people who like to start undecorating on Christmas night. I mean, they're just ready for the stuff to be put away. I also know there are a lot of people who wait until I think it's epiphany. 1-6-ish. Right? So there's a. There's all different kinds of ways. And so that's not what we're talking about today. So what we're saying, this whole. If we're decluttering during this week or any week that it is, whether you decorate or undecorate is actually irrelevant to this. Right. Because I personally am going to use this time. Even though my Christmas decorations are out, like that's a completely separate thing. There's still decluttering to be done. There's still stuff that needs to be leaving my house.

[Unknown]

Right.

[Dana K. White]

To make my house easier to manage closer or farther under my clutter threshold, to make it easier and better for me. All right. Your clutter threshold is the amount of stuff that you personally can easily keep under control. So if you're having a hard time keeping your house under control, decluttering is the answer to that. Okay, all right. So, yeah, again, I've already preached the no mess progress and only progress method.

[Unknown]

It's the way whether you have no.

[Dana K. White]

Time or tons of time here, here's the main thing and the biggest temptation. Don't think this week is going to be different. Don't think this time is going to be different. And I say that knowing how hard it is to not think this time is going to be different. I do the same thing. I've told y'all the story about during quarantine times when we were literally stuck in our house. And I was like, I've got to deal with paper. I didn't have my three file system yet, you know, because didn't know anything about that. I gathered all my paper together and I spread them out and I put them in piles and I thought, well, this has never worked for me before, but it has to work this time, right? Because this time I have all the.

[Unknown]

Time in the world.

[Dana K. White]

Like, quite literally have all time, all the time in the world. I didn't have all the time in the world. And then Easter happened and I wanted to have dinner around the table with the people who were in my house, and it was covered in piles of paper that had been sitting there for days and days and days because I got overwhelmed. I got shut down and it just didn't happen, right? So go into this saying, I'm not going to fall for the lie that this time is going to be different. Here's the thing. This time is going to be different, right? Because you have the no meth. It's also the no meth method, but.

[Unknown]

It'S also the no mess method is.

[Dana K. White]

What it really is.

[Unknown]

You have the no mess method.

[Dana K. White]

So this time will be different. It will be different because of the no mess method, not because of the additional time that you think you have, right? So don't go into this thinking, this time I'll stick it through to the end. This time, I really mean it. This time I'm really going to carry out all of my plans. I'm going to do this thing that I've always fizzled on before. No, no, no. The way it will be different is by using the no s method. It's so easy in these times to start too big. It's the beginning of that week. You feel so much like, oh, my goodness, I've got to change things. Because we also have the New Year's energy, right? Like the new Year. New you. Like, this is it. This is it. This is the year that things are going to be different. So if it's going to be different, I might as well go big or go home. And then we go big and then we're stuck at home and we're overwhelmed. And it just. That's the thing that caused me for so many years to feel like decluttering was hopeless. Because I would always do the big, huge start where I pulled everything out of the space or I made all these piles and I sorted it, and then I would shut down because of the mess that I had just made. So, yes, I would lose energy. Yes, I would get, you know, fizzle out, distractions would happen. But also a lot of time, the reason, A lot of times the reason I shut down was the mess that I had created. That was actually the thing that backfired, the thing that caused me to shut down. Okay, so it's very, very important that you do the no mess method. All right, I do want to say. Okay, and I'm going to do a little self promotion real quick. Get Decluttering at the Speed of Life. This is the week to listen to it as an audiobook. Podcasts are rambly. That's what they are. Okay. Books are not. Because they are edited and they are like actual books. It's the difference between me randomly talking into a microphone and me sitting in a studio for three days and reading it and getting everything perfect, as perfect as I can.

[Unknown]

Right?

[Dana K. White]

But listen to Decluttering the Speed of Life.

[Unknown]

This is the time to listen to it.

[Dana K. White]

A lot of libraries have it through their Libby app or their. What's the other one? I don't know. But, like, whatever your library has, most likely they have Decluttering at the Speed of Life. It may not be available. They're, you know, they have a limited number of copies, but there's that. And then, you know, Audible, this is probably. I'm not even going to give you my affiliate link or anything because I don't remember what it was. But like signing up for Audible and getting a free trial if you don't already have it. And, you know, getting. You can do that from your phone, right? Like, you just do it from your phone.

[Unknown]

There's lots of other places where you.

[Dana K. White]

Can get audiobooks online as well. Chirp is another one. But look those things up and listen to the book I hear from People all the time who are like, okay, I thought I was just going to listen to all your podcasts and I was going to watch all your videos. I was going to, you know, do all that, and I grasped so much of it. But when I listened to the actual book, it put it all together, and then that was when I really fully grasped exactly what it was I was supposed to do in my home. And that's when real change really started to happen. So that's my recommendation. The other thing, too is the take your house back course. I know there was a little blurb at the beginning. A slob comes clean.comtake is my link for you to go get that. That is another way for you to.

[Unknown]

Stay focused this week.

[Dana K. White]

Watch those videos, listen to them work as you listen to those people. Find that incredibly helpful. And so many people have changed their homes by going through the Take youe House Back course. Okay, that's a slobgumsclean.com take. All right.

[Unknown]

Okay.

[Dana K. White]

So let's talk about the visibility rule again with the feeling that I'm going to have so much time, I'm going to get so much done this week. That kind of feeling can cause you to think, oh, the visibility rule doesn't apply. Right.

[Unknown]

I need.

[Dana K. White]

No, no, no. I don't want to start at my front door. I want to start in this really difficult spot. I don't want to start in the most visible space in my home. No, no, this is the time. I want to go and clean out that back closet, that back room, that back shelf, the attic, whatever. Like, this is the time. No, no, I need to do that. I am going to encourage you. If you're following the no mess method, wherever you want to work, you're going to make progress, right? Like, if you're following the method, you're going to do great. But I want to encourage you to really consider following the visibility rule even in, or especially in a time like this where you do have a week with nothing to do but declutter, which is not real.

[Unknown]

Right, But.

[Dana K. White]

Right. Okay. So what is the visibility rule? The visibility rule is the way to gain decluttering momentum. It's how to prioritize your decluttering projects. Start in the most visible space in your home. I consider the most visible space in your home to be the space that people would see. If you opened up your front door and someone was standing at your front door, you opened it up, what are they going to see? That is your most visible space. And then get that decluttered and Then move on to the next most visible space in your home, and then the next most visible space in your home, because you're going to make your house better, more aesthetically pleasing, more functional in areas that you're going to see and experience. Life is going to be easier because there's less stuff in the spaces where you actually are all the time, not just in that back room that you never actually go into. Seeing that progress, experiencing the impact of the work that you've done is the best encouragement to continue decluttering. That's how you inspire yourself to keep decluttering instead of starting in the space that nobody ever sees and that you never see. Working really hard, and then your house still feels stifling and difficult and crowded, and you're still embarrassed to let anybody come over, or your. Your family is like, whatever. Have you been all day today, Mom? I've been decluttering. And they're like, really? Because they see. No, the house doesn't look any different to them.

[Unknown]

Right?

[Dana K. White]

That's discouraging. That's the thing that will zap all decluttering energy. But being able to see the impact that you've made, see, oh, my goodness, I worked for two hours today, and my house looks so good. Like, we're actually able to relax in the living room because of the work that I did today. That is going to make you wake up tomorrow and be so much more likely to keep decluttering because you will experience the power of the work that you've done.

[Unknown]

Right? The impact of that.

[Dana K. White]

So I really encourage you to go with visibility rule. Here's the thing. If the visible spaces in your home are not that bad, and the reason that you're resisting the visibility rule is that they're not that bad, if they really aren't that bad, you're going to get through them quickly, maybe in like a day, half a day, two hours, I don't know. And then you will be able to.

[Unknown]

Get to the less visible spaces in.

[Dana K. White]

Your home, and you won't have any regrets because the visible spaces are done too, right? So.

[Unknown]

So if they're not that bad, if.

[Dana K. White]

You'Re like, oh, they're not that bad, I'm going to go to these difficult places. No, no, it's still worth it, okay? If your visible spaces are bad, you'll have so much to show for the work that you did. I'm just gonna say, if it takes you the whole week to work through the entry area of your home and your living room and you're using the no mess method.

[Unknown]

So you're really making actual progress.

[Dana K. White]

If you spend a whole week on that, your house is going to be so much better. If you have a week's worth of decluttering to do in your most visible space, the wow factor, you just can't even. I mean, it's going to be amazing, right? So if you don't have that much to do, invisible spaces do it so that you'll be able to go on and get to the less visible and you won't regret, okay, having skipped those things. But also, if you have a ton that's going to be such a valuable use of your time this week, you'll be so proud of yourself. The people who live in your house will be excited and can't guarantee it, but so much more likely to be ready to be involved when they see, oh, our house is actually changing, you know, so it's not just because here's the thing, too, this is a time when you've got a week like this. And I know we may, you know, we're not just trying to talk about only this week, but a week like this, you may not be the only person in your house. Right. And they may be, oh, great, here she goes again. Right? Here she goes. She's going to pull everything out. It's going to be all over the floor in the hallway for the next three months, whatever, you know. And so if you're feeling this resistance, like I'm trying to declutter and everybody's resisting me, it maybe is because of that past experience that they've had.

[Unknown]

But if you're following the no mess.

[Dana K. White]

Method, that never happens. There's never the floor in the hallway any more covered than it is anyway. Right. Already. So you're going item by item, you're making final decisions, you're acting on those final decisions. And they're going, if you're, if you're doing this in a visible space and they see, oh, it's like getting better and it's not causing a clutter explosion and wow. I mean, like, they're going to be more likely, I can never guarantee it, more likely to be on board seeing you make real progress as opposed to seeing you cause stuff. Explosions. Right. Okay. So we're going to go through the steps of the process and you know how to apply it in this week.

[Unknown]

When you feel like you're going to.

[Dana K. White]

Have a lot of time to do some decluttering. I'm going to act like your goal is to get through as much of the house of the house, as much.

[Unknown]

Of the house as possible.

[Dana K. White]

Like, that's, that's what I'm going to speak from that perspective. But if you're just focusing on one room this week, that's totally fine. Right? The no mess method applies to all the different situations. Okay.

[Unknown]

You use the same method.

[Dana K. White]

It's great if, if you need to get one room cleared out, like, let's say, okay, the house is, it's mostly okay. But we need this guest room or we need this baby's room that's turned into a storage room to actually become a storage room. Follow that in there. That's great. Okay. But I am going to kind of be talking as if we're trying to get through as much of the house as possible.

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Should be cautious about.

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[Dana K. White]

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[Dana K. White]

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[Dana K. White]

Step 1 Take a Trash tour. Even if you are really focused on one room, I'm going to encourage you to try to take an hour. You know we're talking about a whole week here, right? To take an hour or 30 minutes or whatever you want to give it to do a trash tour of the entire house, starting with your most visible area. Okay? So starting with your entryway where guests would enter the home, go stand there and just walk through the house, prioritizing according according to visibility and throw away trash. Because here's the thing, if there's trash anywhere, it needs to be thrown away, right? It is such a great way. Especially after the holidays, if you have little pockets of places where there's packaging and paper and stuff like that, that is going to make a huge impact, okay? And you're going to see the power of the no mess method. Because the no mess method is all about making a decision and acting on that decision. It's so easy to do that with trash because there isn't a decision to make, but you still get to act on it, right? There's no decision where I'm just saying, oh, this is trash. It's a torn off piece of wrapping paper. Okay? This is trash. So I'M going to put it in the trash bag and I'm done. Right. And so that impact is incredibly powerful. But the other thing you're doing is.

[Unknown]

As you look for trash, even if.

[Dana K. White]

There'S no trash, there's always trash. But even if there's no trash, you're still looking for it, because then your brain starts to see, or your eyes start to see, and your brain starts to acknowledge all the different items that you're dealing with. And the reason that a trash tour of the home on a week like this is so powerful is it's going to open your eyes to what it is that needs to be done. What spaces are like, oh, I haven't even really paid attention to the fact that this pile is 6ft high in the dining room, and the dining room's the first thing that people see when they come into my house. And that I've never acknowledged that because I've been fixating on all these other things, and that's been there so for. For so long that I haven't seen it. But by taking a trash tour, it's going to open your eyes to that which is going to make you so much more ready for the rest of the week. So go around, follow the visibility rule. Take a trash tour. Okay. Which means I'm walking through. I'm making real progress by sitting, putting stuff in the trash bag. I am not thinking about what I'm gonna put in a trash bag.

[Unknown]

Okay.

[Dana K. White]

Like, don't do the trash tour without a trash bag. And if you have it a recycling bin already in your hand. Right, like, so that when you see trash, it immediately goes in the trash bag. It's not. Okay. I'm looking around to see if there's trash. Okay. Yeah, I'm gonna have to do that later. No, no, go ahead and do it.

[Unknown]

Okay.

[Dana K. White]

The next step of the process, and you're going to follow this whether you're working on one specific space or you're working on the whole house. By the visibility rule, the next step is easy stuff. Easy stuff is stuff that has an established home elsewhere in the house, but for whatever reason, it's not in its actual home. Go through either the space you're working on, or if you're trying to do the whole house. You could do easy stuff on the whole house, starting with visibility, with the most visible space. Go through and put away things that you already know what to do with those things. Okay, this is procrastic clutter. This might be. Oh, there's the pile of clothes from.

[Unknown]

When we went to go visit grandma's.

[Dana K. White]

House and I washed all those clothes and now they are covering the couch or the recliner, all these things. It's stuff that feels like, no, no, no, no. I'm decluttering this week. I don't want to be doing dumb, boring stuff that'll have to be done eventually anyway, like laundry, you know. But procrastinaclutter is the stuff that if I don't deal with it, if I leave the recliner covered in clean laundry and work in that space, that space is still going to look messy and unfinished and that's going to frustrate me and it's going to make me, even if I don't realize why, it's going to make me feel like, oh, my house really doesn't look that much better. I've done a lot of work today. My house doesn't look that much better. That's why, okay? Because of stuff like procrastina clutter. So deal with that after the holidays, if that's when you're listening to this and that's when you're doing this. There's a lot of procrasta clutter, right? There's the gift wrap supplies that have, you know, been spread around. There's all different sorts of little things that have been taken out to deal with it. And those things need to be put away. The reason that we do this is that it is decision free.

[Unknown]

It's emotion free.

[Dana K. White]

Because it's like, oh, I already know what to do with this. I just have to actually go do it. And with every thing that gets put away like that, it's clarifying what it is that I'm actually going to have to deal with when I get down to the actual decision making, right? But when I'm like, oh, that room needs to be decluttered and that room has a lot of stuff I'm going to have to make hard decisions about. But it also has trash and a pile of laundry and the gift wrapping stuff and, you know, the kids school bags that they threw there when they got home, you know, from their last day before Christmas break and blah, blah, when all those things are laying around too. It just, it makes it feel like all of that stuff is also stuff that's going to have to be big decisions because you're just seeing there's stuff everywhere. There's so many decisions to make.

[Unknown]

So let's get out the stuff that.

[Dana K. White]

Don'T need to have decisions made about them because those are easy to deal with.

[Unknown]

The trash is the easiest of the.

[Dana K. White]

Easy stuff go straight in the trash bag or the recycling bin. And then the. The easy stuff that you do know what to do with, get those out so that you're like, oh, it wasn't actually as bad as I thought it was going to be.

[Unknown]

Oh, okay.

[Dana K. White]

There really wasn't as much in here as I thought I was going to have to deal with. Like, that's what we're talking about here. That's the reason that we go in this.

[Unknown]

This order of steps is to get.

[Dana K. White]

The stuff out to reduce the feeling of being overwhelmed.

[Unknown]

So that by the time I'm making.

[Dana K. White]

Actual decluttering decisions, which we still. We have strategies within this method that help us do that without feeling overwhelmed and without feeling emotions. And what am I going to do? We have ways to deal with that. Right. But we're not going to make a decision at all on those things that don't need to have decisions made about them. Right. Like, we're just going to get these things out of there, and it helps reduce that feeling of being overwhelmed. Okay, here's another thing I'm going to say.

[Unknown]

If your house isn't that bad, this.

[Dana K. White]

Is my theme today. If your house is not that bad, and you're like, oh, I don't want to deal with procrastinaclutter, there's not that much. I need to get to the big stuff. If your house is not that bad, if your procrastina clutter is really, truly not that bad, then you'll get through it pretty quickly, right? And the decluttering that you actually do, maybe you get through it in half a day or a day. You'll have six days to do actual decluttering, and you'll make huge progress and your whole house will feel completely different because you won't have, oh, I did a lot of decluttering, but I still got all this other stuff that. Oh, man, I just got to still do this. Right? So if your procrastinator is not that bad, great. Get through it, because you got a lot of time. If your procrastina clutter is really, really bad, let's say there's clothes on every surface, which is not unheard of, Right. For a lot of people around here. And it takes you seven days to get through procrast declutter. And putting away all those clothes involves one in one outing. What's in the drawers? Because the drawers won't fit all the clothes when you actually put them away. And so then you have to, like, you know, decide which things deserve space in the drawer, which is the container concept, all of that. If it takes you seven days to get through Procrust declutter, you need to spend this week on procrastinaclutter. Okay? It is worth your time. It is worth your time. Okay.

[Unknown]

All right.

[Dana K. White]

The next step in the process is. Duh.

[Unknown]

Donations.

[Dana K. White]

Obvious donations. I don't have to ask myself, should I get rid of this thing? Should I not?

[Unknown]

No, no.

[Dana K. White]

It's an obvious donation I don't have to think about. It's basically just going through the space that I'm working on. Or if I want to do a donation tour of the whole house, I can do that, too. I'm going to walk through the house from the visible area, or I'm going.

[Unknown]

To focus in on this one spot.

[Dana K. White]

That I'm working on, and I'm going to say to myself out loud, because that's how I roll. Okay? Is there anything in this space that I already know needs to be decluttered? Obvious donations. Here's the thing. You don't need to waste your time asking yourself questions about every single thing. If there's something that just looking at it makes you go, yeah, of course this can go in the donate box.

[Unknown]

Right?

[Dana K. White]

But the thing to remember, too here is that you had it in your brain that this is a week, and I'm going to spend it decluttering, which means you have it in your brain that you're going to get rid of stuff this week. Okay? That idea that this is a week when I'm going to make so much decluttering progress is often exactly the encouragement, the inspiration that you need to just go, this, this, this, this, and this can go right. If you can't, that's fine, because we're going to get to those things in the next step. But go hard on the obvious donations. All right? At this point in the process, if you want to keep going through the whole house, you can. But what I would recommend here is that you go to the space. You pick the specific space that you're working on. Maybe it's a corner of your dining room. If you know, or depending on what it is, depending on how. How bad you know, the clutter level is in this space. But maybe it's the corner of that. Maybe it's this, this countertop over here. Maybe it's the entryway itself. Whatever. You go hard on that and say, I'm. Is there anything in this space so that we don't end up getting overwhelmed?

[Unknown]

Right.

[Dana K. White]

Like, zero in on that this is the space I'm working on now and I'm going to go through the next three steps on this specific space. So the step here is obvious. Donations. Is there anything here? A lot of times with the holidays and kind of, you know, changing up your decor and moving things around, you might be like, you know what, Actually, I don't like this anymore. Or I really hemmed and hawed and debated about putting out this Christmas decoration. And even though I'm not undecorating right now, this is kind of driven me crazy for the last month. You know what? I'm gonna go ahead and stick it in the donate box, right? Going ahead and getting anything out that you can so that again, it's less overwhelming and you really know what it is you're going to have to be dealing with. Okay. So many times, especially in these visible areas, if you have worked in them before, these first three steps are all that you end up having to do, right? You get the trash out, you deal.

[Unknown]

With this procrasta clutter, the easy stuff.

[Dana K. White]

That'S just kind of floated there over the past years or whatever. And then you go, is there anything here I want to donate?

[Unknown]

Great.

[Dana K. White]

And then you're like, oh, actually everything looks great here and I can move to the next space. But if not, we've got our next two steps to keep going.

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[Dana K. White]

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[Dana K. White]

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[Dana K. White]

So the next step, where I would keep on going in this one space where you're working on where you're working for right now is asking the two decluttering questions, right?

[Unknown]

Okay.

[Dana K. White]

So for those of you who are new at this point in the process, anything that you already know shouldn't be in this space is gone. So the only stuff that's here is either stuff that does go in this space or stuff that you don't know what to do with, right? Because a lot of people like, well, I don't know what to do. I don't know how to declutter because I don't know where stuff should go. And I'm like, well, exactly. That's, that's what we're doing here. We're figuring out where stuff should go. And we figured out using the two decluttering questions. Okay? So if you knew where it went, it left during the easy stuff step, right? Which was step two. But at this point you're down to I don't know what to do with this thing. Or yes, it does go in here, right? So item by item, if it's not something that you already know goes in this space, pick it up and ask yourself, if I needed this item, Actually, if it's anything really, if I needed this item, where would I look for it first? Okay, I'm not going to go into incredible, huge detail here, but I'm going to ask myself these questions. So the first question is, if I needed this item, where would I look for this first? The very brief version of what that means is where would I look for it? First, I don't know where it is. I'm not asking myself, where would this be? That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying if I had no idea where it was, but I knew I had it, where's the first place where I would look? What's the first drawer I would open? What's the first cabinet I would open? Where would my hand go to start what I thought was going to be a three hour search for that item? Okay, you know what I'm talking about, right? Like, I know I have a flathead screwdriver. I know I have it. I know I've got one. And then you think, but I have no idea where it is. Okay, all right, Okay, I got to find it. Okay, I'm going to look here first. That's where it goes. That's how you determine the home.

[Unknown]

No, you don't know it's there.

[Dana K. White]

No, you don't assume it's there, but it's the place where you would look for it first.

[Unknown]

And you need to give it a home.

[Dana K. White]

If you knew where it was, it was easy. This is not something that's easy. This is something that you are looking for. And wherever you would look first. Of course we can't guarantee it, but I'm telling you, generally it's correct. Wherever you think you would look first, if you will put it there, this crazy thing happens.

[Unknown]

And when you look for it, it's.

[Dana K. White]

In the first place where you look for it, right? So that gives it a home. You take it there now. The key to the no mess process is to take it there now. When I was talking at the beginning about how important it is in these weeks where you feel like you've got endless unlimited time, that it's more important to use the no mess process. I'm just telling you, use it because you're like, well, I've got all this time. I don't need to do that. Actually, do you know what most people's resistance to the no mess process is? Oh, I think it would take too long to take it there now. Okay, we'll take it there now because you got all this time right, which is not true. It's that feeling that it's going to.

[Unknown]

Be less efficient and yet it ends.

[Dana K. White]

Up being efficient because it actually closes the loop. It finishes that task. And I've talked about that endlessly in other places, Right. Get Decluttering at the Speed of Life and other podcasts that taking it there now is so important. So the minute that I have an Answer to where would I look for this first? At the beginning of what I assumed was this big, long process that I was going to be searching everywhere for it. Where's the first place where I would look? I'm going to take it there now, and I'm going to acknowledge the reality of that space. The reason I do that is so that I don't have piles, which then if I get distracted, if I get emotionally overwhelmed, if I shut down, I just want to be done. I don't have all these piles of things that are going to morph into other piles, and then I have to re. Remember what I was going to do with those things. No, I'm going to go ahead and do this. I'm going to complete this loop. I'm going to take this thing to the place where I would look for it first. So that's the key, but it also helps me acknowledge the reality of that space. Is there room for it there? Is there. Is there any room for it in this spot? Because especially.

[Unknown]

Especially if the whole house is a disaster, right?

[Dana K. White]

And you're like, no, this is the week. I've got to make real progress. This is how you make real progress. This is how you do it. You take it to that space right now and you say, okay, what's the. What's the truth about this space? It is overflowing. I would look for it first in this drawer, and this drawer won't close because of all the other stuff I have in there. Hope is not lost. That's what this process is for, right?

[Unknown]

So you look at the stuff that's.

[Dana K. White]

In there and you go, okay, all I need to do is not leave that drawer. Worse, I'm not going to get it to where that drawer can close. Most likely right now, I'm just going to say, what can I remove? That's either trash or an obvious donation because I'm trying to get stuff out of my house.

[Unknown]

Especially if I'm at a stage where.

[Dana K. White]

I can't close my drawers, right? What in this space can I put in the donate box or the trash bag immediately to make the space for this? The drawer still won't close, but I haven't piled on top of it. I have not made it any worse. That is how I'm moving my whole house forward, because I'm giving it a real, actual home. Not just picking a home and sticking it there, but giving it a home by taking something else out. Okay, again, lots of podcasts on all these different things, but this is the. The overall basics of it, right? If I don't have an answer to where would I look for this first, then I need to ask myself the question. My second decluttering question. If I needed this item, would it occur to me that I already had one? Because if it would never occur to me that I had it and that's the reason I would never even go looking for it, I didn't have an answer to where I would look first because I would never go looking for it, then I need to be honest with myself and say, you know what? My goal this week is to declutter my house. I was so excited about making huge progress. Things have to leave my house. If I would literally never go looking for this, it shouldn't live in my house. Because the reality is, if I wouldn't go looking for it and I really had to have it, I would go buy one because it wouldn't occur to me that I already had one. And the reason it doesn't occur to me that I already have one is because my house is a disaster and I don't know what I have because there's so much stuff everywhere, right? It's too much for my brain to remember what I have, or I have this vague feeling that I probably have one, and I'm like, I don't have it in me. I don't have the energy to even go looking because there's so much to deal with, right? So I need to get that out of my house because Steph needs to leave my house, right? Item by item, in that most visible space, you're going to be building your decluttering muscles. You're going to be building momentum. You're going to see real progress because you're using the no mess method, which is only progress. It never puts you in a situation where you're worse off than you were before, right? You see the impact of what you're doing. You're realizing, oh, I could stop right now, and it'd be okay because I don't have piles, I don't have things left over that I have to do before I finish, and all that. We're not doing that. So you keep working and you keep going item by item until you are down to the only stuff that's in this space is stuff that I would actually look for here. And then at that point, you acknowledge.

[Unknown]

The realities of this space.

[Dana K. White]

Is there. Is there more stuff than will fit in the space? Even though, yes, I would technically go looking for this here? My house can only be under control if I actually have the space for everything. And it's not about making more space. It's about if I try to keep more stuff than the space that I have, there is no hope of my home being under control. Okay? So it's not about finding new ways to store things. It's about acknowledging the reality of the space that I have. So let's say, say I have a bookshelf in this area and I've got all these things I say I would look for on the bookshelf and it's not functional, it's overflowing, looks terrible, right. The first thing I'm going to do is completely mindless. It's decision free, but it's an action I can take that's going to move me through this step and that is to consolidate. So I've got this bookshelf. It's full of random stuff or it's full of things that are in kind of the same category, right? Books or whatever, dishes, something like that. I'm going to put like items together.

[Unknown]

So I've got.

[Dana K. White]

Oh, I've actually got three things of Silly Putty which those three things of Silly Putty all stayed there because I picked up one at a time and I was like, where would I look? Well, I would look for it right here. Oh, I look for this right here. I'd look for this right here. Well, when I put all three Silly Putties together, I go, yeah, we don't need three silly silly pedis. And sometimes when I put them all together, I realize, oh, this one like point, point, it's all dried up, right? Silly Penny dries up, right? That process of just saying all I'm doing right now is putting like things together, it naturally reveals more trash and obvious donations. Okay.

[Unknown]

Or oh, yeah, no, this is where.

[Dana K. White]

I keep my magazines. But when we're putting our magazines together, we're touching one and we're going, this isn't a magazine. This is a catalog for, you know, that my grandma brought over here. And it's for stuff that I would never buy or whatever or. Oh, I've actually got four addition, you know, four copies of this one. Same thing that three people thought I would like and they didn't know the other people had already bought it for me, whatever. So putting those things together often, always honestly reveals more obvious donations and trash. Right. So I have reduced there. And then I go, this space is still not functional. At that point I go, you know what? It's still not functional. Technically, yes, I would go looking for.

[Unknown]

All this stuff in here.

[Dana K. White]

But the reality is there's more stuff than I have space for, so I'm going to get rid of my least favorites. I may love that thing, but the reality is I am trying to get my house under control.

[Unknown]

And the only way to do that.

[Dana K. White]

Is to embrace the reality of the actual space that I have. If I try to keep more stuff, then we'll fit in the space functionally for how I actually operate my clutter threshold. Then it's. There's no hope of it ever being under control, right? And so I say, right, but that was actually a really big thing for me to grasp. So I pull out my least favorite, stick them in the donate box, and that's how I've made this space, this one space, so much better. Maybe I did the trash and the easy stuff, maybe even the donations were the whole house. And then I came in and just.

[Unknown]

Did those last steps on this space.

[Dana K. White]

And I'm like, wow, okay. Then I move to the next visible space and I do it there, and then I go to the next visible space and I do it there. Or I spend the entire week working on the living room. And if you're using the no mess method, you're gonna make so much progress this week, whether you have 10 minutes and you're like, she's talking about all these people having all week off. And I don't have all week off because I work whatever hours and I've got 10 minutes here, but I still want to declutter because it's that same time of year for everybody, and we all just. I'm ready to get stuff out of my house. Okay? The no mess method is for you, and it's for the person who has the whole entire week with, quote, unquote, nothing else to do.

[Unknown]

Which is never the truth, right?

[Dana K. White]

Because there's always other things that either you need to do or you just want to do and know that you're going to make so much progress if you followed this method for 10 hours a day for seven days.

[Unknown]

Oh, my goodness.

[Dana K. White]

The progress that you're going to make if you follow this method for 10 hours the first day and 3 hours the second day. And then you go, I'm out. I'm done. Oh, my goodness. I cannot even think about decluttering anymore. You're going to have made so much progress. Right? Okay, Two more things. When you take it there now, if it's upstairs or in the attic or whatever, is the place where you say you would look for it first. And you are like, why? I don't want to do that because it's hard for me to get to the attic. It's whatever the take it there now is really valuable for you. Not because you have to force yourself to go up to the attic, but when you physically can't, but because you go, oh, wait a minute, I physically can't go up to the attic. If this is an item that I would look for first in a place that I can't actually physically access, then I probably just need to donate it. Right? The other thing is take pictures.

[Unknown]

Not pictures that you have to share.

[Dana K. White]

With other people, but just pictures for yourself. If you're taking, you're not going to take before and after. You're going to take before and better pictures. So at the end of the day or at the end of the. You know what? Actually I forgot we were going to go to a movie. All right. Well, I thought I was going to declutter for four hours and ended up being four minutes. Great. You took a before picture before you started. Take a picture at the end of the four minutes and go, oh, wow.

[Unknown]

Made an impact in four minutes. That will go so far in changing how you see your home and changing.

[Dana K. White]

How you see your time and helping you see the value of using the progress and only progress ticket there now method. Okay, I also want to say for those of you who are would like encouragement from other people, go check out my patreon group patreon.com A slob comes clean. It's a lovely group of people who that's a place where you can share your photos and people are just going to cheer you on and encourage you using this same language of how I talk about decluttering.

[Unknown]

That's the language that we use in there.

[Dana K. White]

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[Dana K. White]

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[Unknown]

All right.

[Dana K. White]

And also take your house back. Great. Great time of year to join in with Take youe house back. Aslobchemsclean.com Take all right, I will talk to y'all next week. Happy Decluttering. Bye. Okay, y'all, I'm back to talk about my new book that comes out February 11th of 2025.

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[Dana K. White]

These current things in with old podcasts, that's one of the features that my ad network allows me to do. And I'm very thankful for that because I know a lot of y'all Listen to old podcasts and I don't want you to miss exciting things that are coming out like the new book. This book is called Jesus doesn't care.

[Unknown]

About your messy house, he cares about your heart.

[Dana K. White]

And this is a departure for me for sure. So my first three books did not contain spiritual content and that was on purpose. And this book talks about why. Ultimately this is a book about God's grace, what it means and how it plays out in life. And I'm using this example that feels both too unimportant and too daunting from.

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My own life to explore what grace is.

[Dana K. White]

My hope is that exploring this topic, finding out what the Bible really says and how Jesus really views you will.

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Remove the shame around this issue so that you can move forward.

[Dana K. White]

I also want to make sure you.

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Know that if you pre order there are pre order bonuses.

[Dana K. White]

So I'm going to talk real quickly about what those are. You can pre order from anywhere. You can even request it from your library and send us an email and let us know that pre order it.

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From anywhere and then go to aslobcamsclean.com.

[Dana K. White]

Jesus and there's actually links there of places to pre order if you haven't yet. But you'll go to the form there and fill out your information with your pre order number and information from your receipt. Okay, so just so you know, we don't have any way of knowing that you pre ordered. Okay. We don't get any information about you from the place where you bought the book. They don't send us any information about you. So the only way for us to know that you have pre ordered is.

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For you to come and fill out this form.

[Dana K. White]

And they are all digital and they're downloadable, meaning you're going to get them immediately. Now they don't come with your book and again we only can give them to you if you tell us that you've pre ordered and give us your information. But what are the bonuses? Well, the bonuses include a preview of the book, it's the first two chapters, and then also a five day Bible study based around the theme of the book. And then the last thing is not downloadable because it'll be an invitation that you'll receive to a live Q and A exclusively for those who have pre ordered.

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So here's how this is going to work.

[Dana K. White]

I am going to do three categories of Q and A's and for each category I'm going to do two sessions.

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Okay?

[Dana K. White]

So there will be a daytime and.

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An evening for each of these sessions. To hopefully allow you to make it.

[Dana K. White]

To one of them. But the three categories are divided out to hopefully meet everybody where they are. Because I know that people are at very different places on this side of this journey. Okay, so the three categories are I'm all in. Like, you get it. You hear the title, you read the book and you're like, yep, I'm all in. I want to talk more about this. That's the first category. The second category is I've got questions. Like, I think I know what you're saying, but I've got some questions about this. We'll have two sessions for the people who are in that place in that category. And then the last category is, no, nope, I'm out.

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But we're friends.

[Dana K. White]

And so you read the book and so you pre ordered so you can be invited to that one. Because I know that, like I said, we're all at different places and we want to be able to really have those conversations. Those will not be recorded because I want to honor the privacy of those who are participating. So it will be something where. That's why we're doing each of them twice so that hopefully you can make one.

[Unknown]

We'll send out the invitations to those.

[Dana K. White]

Sessions probably about a week after the book releases to give people time to get into it and start. Start reading. So that when we have those discussions, we're, you know, talking about the same thing. So I would love for you to.

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Pre order if this is a book.

[Dana K. White]

That you would be interested in or somebody you know would be interested in. Pre orders are so helpful for authors. So I greatly appreciate you doing that. But ultimately I just want it to be a book that is helpful for you.

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You can go to a slob comes clean.com Jesus.

[Dana K. White]

Both for information on how to pre order and or to fill out the form and claim your pre order bonuses. All right, I will talk to you later.

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Bye.