Stuck in the 80s, has the ANC found the perfect adversary in Donald Trump?

Songezo Zibi, leader of Rise Mzansi and chair of the Standing Committee on Public Accounts in Parliament, tells Peter Bruce in this wide-ranging edition of Podcasts from the Edge that the ANC and US President Donald Trump might have been made for each other. "I never expected the kind of disruption that we see from Donald Trump,” he says, "and this is an ANC problem (because) the ANC doesn't perceive the world in the way that the rest of the normal world perceives the world. … they're stuck in the eighties and nineties, fighting an old Cold War and they found the perfect adversary in Donald Trump because in some ways he takes them back. He validates their failure to kind of move forward and, and understand the word for what it is.”