Podcast Summary: PodCrushed - Episode Featuring Jesse Tyler Ferguson

Podcast Information:

• Title: PodCrushed
• Hosts: Penn Badgley, Nava Kavelin, Sophie Ansari
• Guest: Jesse Tyler Ferguson
• Release Date: February 19, 2025
• Description: Podcrushed delves into the tumultuous and transformative years of middle school, exploring themes of heartbreak, anxiety, and self-discovery through relatable stories and conversations.

1. Introduction to Jesse Tyler Ferguson

The episode opens with a heartfelt introduction by the hosts, welcoming Jesse Tyler Ferguson, a Tony Award-winning actor renowned for his role as Mitchell on the beloved sitcom Modern Family. Jesse also brings his experience as a podcaster with his show Dinners on Me, where he engages with notable personalities over meals.

2. Early Life and Middle School Experiences

Jesse shares his challenging middle school years, highlighting the pervasive bullying he endured:

• Bullying Incident: At [00:05], Jesse recounts a particularly harrowing experience:

  "A bunch of kids grabbed me and pinned my jacket... They pinned the ones that were on my hood to a chain link fence and then pinned my arms as well." ([00:05])

• Living Through Bullying: Jesse describes his daily struggle to survive middle school amidst constant harassment:

  "I was always so appreciative of the kids who would just leave me alone... It was something that I look back upon and I think is character building, but it's also something that I wish I didn't have to go through." ([05:14])

3. Discovering Theater as an Outlet

Finding refuge in theater was a pivotal moment for Jesse:

• Initial Introduction to Theater: Jesse attended the Albuquerque Children's Theater after his Catholic school lacked a robust theater program.

  "I remember sitting in the theater and being so enthralled with what was happening in front of me... I didn't want to be on the audience seats. I wanted to be on the other side of the stage lights." ([07:09])

• Balancing Dual Lives: Despite the acceptance he found in the theater community, Jesse felt the need to hide his struggles from his peers:

  "I was like, this fun kid at the theater school. And then, back in my grade school, I was the pariah again." ([07:35])

4. Personal Struggles and Family Dynamics

Jesse opens up about his limited support system and the impact on his well-being:

• Lack of Support: He reveals that he rarely had someone to confide in, highlighting the isolation he felt:

  "I don't think I had a lot of people to open up to. I didn't feel safe around a lot of people." ([08:49])

• Bullying Escalation: Jesse discusses how the bullying intensified, leading him to change schools multiple times:

  "I was in another Catholic school in high school... but a lot of my former bullies came back." ([10:56])

5. Path to Acting and Breaking Into Television

Jesse narrates his journey from theater to television:

• Early TV Roles: After moving to Los Angeles, Jesse landed a role in The Class, which, despite a promising start, was canceled after one season ([20:44]).

• Auditioning for Modern Family: Jesse describes how he found Modern Family:

  "I was reading a pilot called My American Family... they wanted me to audition for Cameron, but I felt more aligned with Mitchell." ([22:09])

• Landing the Role of Mitchell: His persistence paid off when he re-auditioned for Mitchell and was cast as the first person in the show:

  "I was the first person that they cast... I was so relaxed." ([24:14])

6. Experiences on Modern Family

Jesse delves into his experiences working on Modern Family and the show's impact:

• Pilot Filming: He reflects on the special atmosphere during the pilot's filming and the unexpected positive reception:

  "It felt like everyone fell into the parts that they were meant to play... The response was just unlike anything we've ever experienced." ([33:38])

• Character Development: Jesse emphasizes the importance of portraying a grounded and committed gay character:

  "I saw great opportunity to represent a very grounded version of a gay character... to be a pop culture touchstone for what's happening in the real world." ([43:30])

• Emotional Storylines: Highlighting key episodes, Jesse discusses how personal experiences influenced his portrayal:

  "When my dad says, 'I don't understand why you need to get married,' it resonated deeply with me because of my relationship with my father." ([43:30])

7. Working with Young Co-Stars

Jesse shares insights into working with child actors on the show:

• Aubrey Anderson-Emmons (Lily): Jesse recounts the challenges and joys of filming with a young co-star:

  "Auditioning with 3-year-olds who didn't even really know what they were doing... She was lying on the back of the sofa and asking questions about the set." ([36:40])

• Building Friendships: He expresses his protective instincts and the lasting friendships formed on set:

  "I felt very protective of her because she was so young... It remains a relationship and a friendship I hope I'll always have." ([36:40])

8. Impact of Comedy in Television

Jesse discusses the role of comedy in shaping societal perceptions:

• Changing Hearts Through Humor: He believes that comedy is a powerful tool for influencing public opinion and fostering empathy:

  "You can really change minds and hearts when you come at something with comedy and humor and relatability." ([44:13])

• Rewatchability of Comedies: Highlighting the genre's unique ability to engage audiences repeatedly:

  "People will rewatch comedies like Modern Family again and again because they love the characters so much." ([44:45])

9. Jesse's Podcast: Dinners on Me

Exploring Jesse's venture into podcasting:

• Premise of the Podcast: Jesse explains that Dinners on Me involves taking guests to authentic restaurant settings for relaxed conversations:

  "I take people out to a meal... We find a quiet corner, set up our microphones, and have a great conversation." ([54:22])

• Notable Episodes: He recommends episodes featuring guests like Chelsea Clinton, Lisa Kudrow, and fellow Modern Family cast members:

  "Margo Martindale's episode is one of my favorites... It's fun to listen to us interact as friends." ([54:43])

• Unique Approach: Jesse highlights the podcast's ability to showcase genuine interactions without the typical celebrity gloss:

  "We have a shorthand between us and talk about things the audience wouldn't necessarily think of." ([56:18])

10. Reflecting on the Past and Personal Growth

Concluding with Jesse's reflections on his journey:

• Advice to Younger Self: In a poignant moment, Jesse shares what he would tell his 12-year-old self:

  "I wish I could have told myself that it's going to be okay and that I can be more authentically myself." ([60:19])

• Embracing Authenticity: He emphasizes the importance of being true to oneself and the impact it has on personal well-being:

  "You don't have to worry so much about hiding those things and you can be more authentically yourself." ([60:19])

Conclusion

The episode offers an intimate look into Jesse Tyler Ferguson's formative years, his resilience in the face of adversity, and his journey to becoming a celebrated actor and podcaster. Through his candid storytelling, Jesse provides valuable insights into overcoming bullying, the healing power of theater, and the significance of authentic representation in media. His reflections serve as inspiration for listeners navigating their own challenges and striving for self-acceptance.

Notable Quotes:

• "I was always so appreciative of the kids who would just leave me alone... It was something that I look back upon and I think is character building." ([05:14])
• "Do you think Hasan Minhaj really thought you'd be better in film or just snuffing at the competition?" ([02:05] Jessie later clarifies he mistook it as part of an ad)
• "I saw great opportunity to represent a very grounded version of a gay character... to be a pop culture touchstone for what's happening in the real world." ([43:30])
• "You can really change minds and hearts when you come at something with comedy and humor and relatability." ([44:13])
• "I wish I could have told myself that it's going to be okay and that I can be more authentically myself." ([60:19])

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