B (5:47)

It is weird. And you got my number, Aisha, because, like, a lot of people, I think I've been holding off on this because, again, I didn't think they could recapture that magic. I mean, you can't have a new Ronald, but apparently you can. That's good to hear. But then, you know, when I look back on that first season, I do remember that Ronald was great and James Marsden was great. They made that show so that a lot of the ancillary characters were really good improv actors who did really good work, and there were some really good situations. So it wasn't just the Ronald of it all. There's some solid work behind the scenes and around the corners of the scene. So this bodes well. I think I'm gonna check this out.

C (6:21)

Yeah. Yeah, Anthony, he's great. But also, yes, the improv and the ways in which you learn later, there were moments where they almost slipped up. It's like you get to understand how just tenuous all of this is and that at any moment the whole thing could be blown. They spent a lot of time, the creators, working to set this up, and they pulled it off. And you will be pleasantly surprised and entertained throughout. So that is Jury Duty presents Company Retreat. And you can find that on Prime Video.

B (6:52)

Excellent. Thank you so much. I'm gonna definitely check that out. So my first pick is the Peacock series Ponies, which is a really solid and certainly very stylish spy drama that is set in and around the American Embassy in Moscow in 1977. Stars Emilia Clarke and Haley Lou Richardson. They are a couple of secretaries at this embassy. Their husbands are CIA agents who get killed by the kgb. Do I need to tell you that one is uptight and by the book and the other is a loose cannon I don'. But. So the uptight by the book secretary is Clark. The loose cannon is Richardson. They managed to convince the CIA that they would make great spies because while the KGB really closely monitors every man who comes in and out of that embassy, they routinely completely ignore the secretaries. That's where the title comes in. Persons of no Interest Ponies. What a great premise. Right? And also, the 1977 is 77 all over the place. It's a great look. Everything is rounded corners and avocado golds and burnt sienna. And the bud has a line item for polyknit blends. It looks great. It does have streaming series problems. There's too many subplots, some of which feature characters that don't get enough oxygen to breathe and to stand on their own. And you can tell they're doing that because they're just investing in that character because they're gonna explore them more in season two. But that doesn't change how it feels in season one, Right? That's always the deal with some of these shows. And as of this taping, the show has not been canceled, but it also hasn't been picked up for a second season. So it's kind of hovering in that limbo. Personally, this is just a me thing. I think they made the Richardson character a little too volatile for an uptight organization like the CIA in the 70s to want anything to do with her. But, I mean, I can't argue she makes for good tv. This is the kind of show where if you hold onto your credulity too hard, it's gonna break. So you gotta let some things go. And the great thing about the show is Richardson and Clark, they work well together on screen, and the plot is what you want it to be. There's twists, there's turns, there's shocking reveals. Aisha, like me, you miss the Americans, right?

C (8:58)

I was gonna ask you, is this gonna scratch my itch for the Americans? But it sounds a little more high gloss, and it is sort of networky even. It's Peacock, right?

B (9:07)

Yeah. It hits some of the same buttons that the Americans did, not quite as effortlessly as the Americans did. It works a little harder, it's a little sweatier, but it is fun. And that is Ponies on Peacock.

C (9:19)

Yeah, that is one that I have been meaning to check out, especially once I heard that you were a fan of it, because you and I, we have fairly similar tastes when it comes to these types of things.

B (9:29)

All right, what's your next pick?

C (9:30)

Well, I went from, you know, not that it was the lowest of the low. But it is reality tv. I'm going from slightly low brow to none other than Wong Kar Wai, the cinematic master and his first TV series that he is, you know, fronting and directing. This is Blossoms Shanghai and it had its North American premiere for audiences way back late last year on the Criterion Channel. I'm finally catching up with it. It's a lot of episodes. It's more than 25 episodes total. I'm only about 8 in, so I haven't watched the whole thing. But I am into it. It is absolutely worth checking out if you haven't yet. So this is a show that is based on the novel Blossoms by Jin Yu Chung. And it's set against the backdrop of Shanghai's reopening of its stock market exchange in 1990. And this is something I had basically no knowledge about. So I was going into this completely cold. And sometimes I do have to like pick up my Wikipedia. But I think the show also does a really good job of explaining. There's narration, there's voiceover narration and historical background. So it's very helpful for those of us who have zero context or very little context to follow along. It stars Hygge as Mr. Bao, who's this ambitious and shrewd trader who comes from a mysterious background and he holds like a ton of sway in the business and financial world. Much of the action is concentrated in the bustling Shanghai district Huanghe Road, which Wang Kar Wai has basically recreated with his director of photography, the Oscar winning cinematographer, Peter Pao. It's got this like glitzy art deco glamour, the fancy restaurants where like all the high rolling business deals are made, and this very, very colorful assortment of characters who, you know, over time you get to really know who is who and what's going on. But especially there are three women at the center in addition to Mr. Ba, and they're all to some extent sort of cast as possible love interest for him. You know, this is Wong Kar Wai, he's a romantic. If you've seen any of his movies, you know, especially in the Mood for Love, this is what we're going for here. But at least in the first episodes that I've seen and I think this will continue throughout the rest of the series. Yes, there's like flirtations, there's like will they or won't they? Moments between all three of these women with Bel, but also they are working with him. They are business people and so there's a lot of transactions going on, a lot of like Deal making and all that stuff. And Lili, who's played by Sheen Jule. She is the owner of the new restaurant, the Grand Lisbon, which is on Huanghe Road. And she's determined to get Bao to bring his business dealings to her establishment. She's kind of like this femme fatale. She's crafty. I love the way that they're working her into this story. I love it. Like, it took me maybe two or three episodes before I started to understand where it was going. But once you hit that and you're just seeing all these people try to, like, craft these deals and backstabbing and maneuvering and all these different things, like, it's really fun. And Mr. Bao, as played by Hu Ge, is just like. He's really kind of mysterious and sexy and also very smart. And it's fun to watch. So if you're at all a fan of Wong Kar Wai, definitely give this a shot. It is an investment, but, you know, Slow Burn, you can take as much time as you need. And it looks gorgeous. It's so beautiful. Like, the costumes are amazing.

B (12:49)

All right, well, that's great, because, you know, I mean, there are so many questions around this because narrative television is not the same. Not the same medium as a film. And it's not necessarily given that a filmmaker could make a narrative television series because it stretched out over so many episodes. But the thing about so many episodes, I mean, you know, gather on Grandpappy's knee, folks. We used to do this 22 episodes a season. This is what we used to do. And I'm glad you said that about the romance, because Wong Kar Wai is such. Not just a romantic, but a swooning romantic. In the mood for love, Happy Together, Chung King Express. I mean, these are films that are all about love. And if it was just about a bunch of business folks being business, y, you know, it would not feel Wong Kar Wai to me.

C (13:32)

Yeah, there's even this. A lot of aesthetic touches that we know so well from Wong Kar Wai movies especially. Like, sometimes there's, like, slow motion walking and looking and glancing and, like, beautiful, beautiful costumes. And it feels very romantic. And even though it's the 90s, it feels like it could be the 40s. Like, it's really, really, really beautiful. So highly recommend it. Blossom Shanghai. It's on Criterion Channel. Go check it out. It's really, really great.

B (14:00)

Okay, excellent. I will check that out. Okay, my last pick is Deadlocked, Season two. Now, Aisha, did you watch Deadlock Season one?

C (14:10)

Okay, so I Never finished Deadlock season one. And I don't know why. It's not because I didn't like it. I just at some point didn't watch the last two episodes. And so I know, I know I'm a bad person.

B (14:22)

No, no, no. We have a lot to see. I'm not gonna hold that against you. But I will say that when people ask me what's perfect tv, I say, Deadlock season one is perfect television. Platonic ideal. What a great show can be. When I want to feel good about humanity, which in 2026 is often. I think of all the people who have come up to me since I recommended this show to say they love it as much as I do. That's just heartening because there's a sea of bad things out there. And when a good thing finds its audience, even if it's just one person says, I found this show because of you. If I had even a tiny hand at that. That's why we're critics, right? That's why we do this. But this show isn't just a critical darling. This is also a real world word of mouth phenomenon, completely apart from critics. And I'd be out with non critics, I'd be out with civilians, and I'd mention this show and the intense reaction it would get from people is just heartening. It's surprising, right? Because on the surface, if you just talk about the premise of the show, there's nothing new here. Two wildly mismatched police officers in a small town filled with quirky characters investigating a murder. That is formula, formula, formula. But what makes this show so great is the details, is the dialogue, the characterizations. Just imagine if Broadchurch was less emo, more queer and more goofy. You got this show. And so in this show, the two cops are played by Dulcie played by Kate Box, and Eddie played by Madeline Sami. The town is a small coastal village in Tasmania. Dulcie is. Here we go again. The by the book queer cop who puts up with a lot of very stoically because, you know, she spends every day kind of neck deep in sexism and homophobia and she just puts up with it. While Eddie is everything, Dulcie isn't. Loud and crude and unapologetic and very quick to judgment. Where Dulcie is very, you know, careful and deliberative. These two characters play off each other so well. And the dialogue is very funny. If the mystery doesn't drive you to the end because you need to know what happened, it's not while you're at the show, the mystery isn't really the appeal here. I mean, it does get solved. So watch those last two episodes. Aisha. But this is the Vibe. But season two recently dropped and it's still Deadlock. It isn't the perfect jewel that season one was, because it couldn't be. And I think that's a result of the decision to shift focus from Dulcie to Eddie and the show from Deadlock to this kind of remote backwater in Australia's Northern Territory. This season is big Eddie Vibes, it's a lot louder. It's more chaotic, tries to do too many things in too short a time. So when it does tie up the mystery, it feels kind of disjointed. But again, you're not watching the show for the plot. You're not watching for the mystery. You're watching for the vibe, for the dialogue, for the characters. But definitely, watch season two. It's still great. But man, if you ever find yourself with a laundry weekend afternoon to kill, Deadlock, season one is still the cure for whatever ails you. I've watched it several times.

C (17:19)

You know what this is? If I ever needed a kick in the butt to go back and rewatch season one and get to this, this is a good reason.

B (17:27)

So that is Deadlock on Prime Video. That brings us to the end of our show. Aisha Harris, thank you so much for being here. Great picks.

C (17:33)

Thank you. You too. Can't wait to check out Deadlock Season one again. Here we go so I can go watch season two.

B (17:39)

This episode was produced by Liz Metzger, Hafsa Fatima, and Mike Katsep, and edited by our showrunner, Jessica Reedy. And hello, Kamin provides our theme music. Thank you for listening to Pop Culture Happy Hour from npr. And if you're not already following the show, do that right now. I'm Glenn Weldon, and we'll see you all next time.

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