
Central Texas had little time to prepare as flash flooding inundated the area in mere hours. Over 90 people are now dead, around a third of whom were children. How did this happen?
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Colby Ikowicz
It was early Friday morning when the water started rising in Kerr County, Texas.
Thad Hartfield
I got a call at 4am and somehow it woke me up and I answered it. And it was my son calling to let me know that there was 4 inches of water in the house. And I told him to get to the highway as fast as he could.
Colby Ikowicz
This is Thad Hartfield. He was about 300 miles away from their vacation house by the Guadalupe river where his 22 year old son Aiden was calling him from. Aiden was staying there for the July 4th weekend with his girlfriend and some other friends.
Thad Hartfield
And as they proceeded out of the house, the water, and I'm talking about maybe a minute, the water went from 4 inches to 4ft and they were hanging on to some structures on the outside of the house when a massive cypress tree came and actually hit the part of the house where they were gathered. And Aiden's phone was in the hands of a girl named Joyce. And Joyce told me that Aiden and the other two girls had been swept off and got hit by something. Within seconds the phone went dead. And so I immediately made my way here to start my search.
Colby Ikowicz
Thad's been on the ground looking for his son and his son's friends for days. That's where he spoke to our colleague reporter Aralise Hernandez.
Natalie Allison
How are you doing, Ms. Thad?
Thad Hartfield
Like I said, I am. I have to do something for my son. And my son called me and that was a call to duty. I'm accepting the challenge.
Colby Ikowicz
So far, local officials say more than 90 people were killed by the catastrophic flooding across Central Texas over the weekend. Around a third were children. Many are still missing. It may be the worst freshwater flood in the United states in nearly 50 years. After searching all weekend, Thad has decided not to go out with the foot search teams anymore. He's afraid of what he'll see.
Thad Hartfield
Yeah, I just. I think I want to find my son. But we're now three days into, you know, a search and if my son is no longer alive, I just have a reality of what is going on and I don't want to have that as my memory.
Colby Ikowicz
From the newsroom of the Washington Post, this is Post Reports. I'm Colby ICHOWICZ. It's Monday, July 7th. Today, as AR Elise continues to report from the ground. We pick up this story of how these floods happened with extreme weather reporter Briana Sachs. She explains why the flooding here was so bad and why the area seemed unprepared for such a catastrophic natural disaster. Brianna. Hi. Thanks so much for joining me.
Brianna Sachs
Thanks for Having me.
Colby Ikowicz
So Brianna, can we start, can you explain kind of beat by beat, what happened overnight Thursday into Friday morning in Texas when these floods began?
Brianna Sachs
Yeah. So Kerrville, which is in Kerr county, is a super popular destination for the fourth of July. They have this big Fourth on the river festival and it's right in this big park downtown, right on the river. So for this long weekend, a lot of people were in town for the festival and also just to enjoy the river. It was also peak season for young campers. There's quite a few camps along the riverbanks there. So it was just like a very packed time for, for the area and people were really not paying attention to the forecasts that were coming from the National Weather Service, as you know, one's likely to do. It was lightly raining Thursday, nothing really out of the ordinary. And then around 1am I heard that the storm really started coming down and the rain was pounding in droves and it got really dark, lightning was striking. And around like 1:15 in the morning, the National Weather Service sent its first pretty dire sounding alert saying that this was a life threatening situation. And a few more followed, but people were asleep. And then around 4 in the morning, the river just let loose and became a monster and started sweeping into these campgrounds and RV parks and was moving massive trailers and pickup trucks like they were pieces of cardboard. Some told me that people were knocking on doors of one another's cabins or blaring horns, flashing their lights as they were trying to evacuate. The water, which had been like a football field away from some cabins at a campground I talked to was suddenly right up at their front door and became waist deep in a matter of minutes and they had to scramble, leaving everything behind to get in the car and get out.
Colby Ikowicz
And Brianna, I imagine because this happened in the middle of the night, by the time people woke up, for a lot of them, was it just too late?
Brianna Sachs
That is what I've been hearing, yes. Is that they either woke up with the water right at their doorstep or with barely any time to drive out or they had to scramble up on top of rooftops or, or take refuge in trees. It turned deadly so quickly. And I mean, you can't really imagine, who can imagine something like this happening, right? Like it's so hard for the human brain to wrap their head around something like this happening. However, there has been precedent for it. There was a really terrible flood In Central Texas 10 years ago nearby, and that was the bar until this one. So the historical precedent is there for something like this. But I Just don't think that authorities and officials made that connection when they got this forecast. And there just wasn't a lot of serious messaging on their social media platforms or really anywhere except the National Weather Service to these phone alerts. And a lot of people, you know, they don't really get them or connectivity is bad in these rural areas. So it's just really hard to warn people in these situations.
Colby Ikowicz
And tell me more about the area itself. It's known for flooding, right?
Brianna Sachs
Yeah. This area in Central Texas is actually known as Flash Flood Alley and is one of the most flash flood prone places in the United States. Central Texas has a really interesting topography where it's called hill country. And it has undulating hills and it has steep canyons and it has this exposed limestone under its riverbeds as well as in the hills, in the valleys there. And although it's really humid and it's hot and it's no stranger to rain, it's actually been going through a really punishing drought. So the soil is dry and thin and when water hits that, it's more prone to flooding. And there's a lot of waterways in the area in Central Texas, several big rivers and normally they're really shallow, they move slowly. But when the area gets hit with a lot of rain at once, these once tranquil, slow moving rivers just become fast moving forces with what experts describe as concrete walls of water rushing downstream. And people love to live along the water. Right. And a lot of the communities are nestled on the riverbanks and so that's why it can become so dangerous. And it's also such a popular tourist destination at the same time.
Colby Ikowicz
So we're talking it's 9:30ish on Monday morning. What's the scope of the damage that we know of right now?
Brianna Sachs
I mean the death toll is just staggering. Honestly, I covered disasters and this one is just hard to believe. Think about, you know, 80 people the last time I checked are dead. They're still looking for bodies. There's campers, these young girls between 7, 9, 10 years old. Some of them are still missing. It's still a very active, fluid situation in terms of looking for people who might still be alive. We don't really know about the home loss yet to the area. Texas declared a national emergency, so FEMA is going to be coming in and helping with the response. But it's still just very much a, an ongoing crisis.
Colby Ikowicz
And the rain has stopped. Right. So had the water started to recede, has it been, what's the rescue missions.
Brianna Sachs
Looked like Yeah, I have a rescue source there and the rain has stopped and the water is lessening a little bit. So they're able to go downstream from Kerrville. They're finding a lot more bodies, he said, downstream in a different town where, where they, where they traveled. So I think that's where a lot of the search and rescue and recovery operations are located. And you have firefighters and volunteers. Cajun Navy is there visitors I talked to who call Kerrville like their second home or who had never been there before. And this was their first time they've gone home. But hotels are full. People are looking for food for like donated clothing. So, you know, those, those are popping up from volunteers. And it's just like another really horrific, historic disaster for the country.
Colby Ikowicz
Brianna, you. You mentioned that there are children who are still missing and that many children have died in the floods. Some of the most affected areas were these children's summer camps along the Guadalupe river, including a girls overnight camp called Camp Mystic. Tell me more about what happened there.
Brianna Sachs
Camp mystic is one of about a dozen camps in the area, and it's a Christian girls camp. And these faith based camps are really important to the region and very popular in the state for people who moved out of Texas. They love to send their kids back to Texas for these experiences. And it's just kind of a ritual, especially during this time of the year. And Camp mystic had about 700 to 750 kids, I believe there when the floods hit. And it's in a more remote part of the county. And what we were hearing is this force of water came around 4am and when kids were going to bed, it was just like a normal thunderstorm. And in the camp's rules, it says no cell phones, no tablets, like no technology. They want them to be present and immersed in nature. And that goes for counselors too. So they wouldn't have gotten these alerts. There's not a siren system in the county like there are for tornadoes. And then we heard campers who were able to, were just scrambling to run to other camps. The water is rising quickly. The campers were struggling to run to other cabins to try and evacuate or to higher ground. And the water is just coming up, coming up, coming up. And the. One of the directors of the camp, Dick Eastland, who's very beloved and actually was part of this river authority, which is a group that tries to make the river safer. He died trying to rescue his campers. So it's just, just like your worst nightmare. And, and parents who sent their kids there, they don't have their cell phones, right. So they're trying to come and, and find them. A lot of parents were out of town, having to fly in. So it's, it's just like a really horrific situation.
Colby Ikowicz
I mean, it's beyond a nightmare as a parent of a young daughter to hear this news and to have to wonder whether or not your child is okay or been swept away in these horrible floods. Have we talked to any of the parents from Camp Mystic?
Brianna Sachs
We have several Washington Post reporters on the ground. And my colleague Arlise has just been doing harrowing, incredible work. And she actually met a father as he was looking for his little girl, Linnie. And she was among youngest group of girls in one of these cabins. And she, Arleigh, spent some time with him as he was searching for her, driving around. And he was going to churches and registered with authorities and tried to even visit the morgue to see if his child was there. But we have learned, sadly, we got confirmation that Lynnie, who, who was 8 years old, did die in the floods. And there are a lot more fathers and mothers and grandfathers still driving around looking for pieces of their children that they might recognize, like shampoo bottles with their names on them, their shoes, embroidered towels. So it's just still a really heartbreaking moment by moment.
Thad Hartfield
Sitting.
Colby Ikowicz
After the break, why early warning and emergency management systems failed to keep residents safe. We'll be right back.
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Colby Ikowicz
Piranha. You cover extreme weather as a beat. And in fact, your family was directly impacted by the Palisades fires. And you did such incredible reporting from there. You know, we love having you on Post reports. But it does feel like we have to have you come back more and more often talking about these devastating natural disasters like floods and fires and hurricanes. I mean, are natural disasters getting worse?
Brianna Sachs
You know, it's really surreal you say that because today's actually the six month anniversary of the LA fires and I was supposed to go to a memorial for those fires, but I am covering this and it's a tough question. I think we have good years and bad years and good quote, unquote means hundreds of people did not die in a single event. So, yes, they are getting worse and more frequent. And I think especially these blockbuster disasters that the national media does an incredible job of covering. And at the same time, there are a lot of smaller disasters where people lose everything. And flooding is one of the most frequent actually and dangerous disasters that this country sees on a regular basis. And we just don't hear about those people either. So it's a hard beat to cover. And it feels like we move from one to the next without being able to process the tragedy that we just experienced before. Just another one that seems worse happens. And I don't see it slowing down, unfortunately.
Colby Ikowicz
I mean, how much is climate change playing a role in the devastation that these natural disasters are causing?
Brianna Sachs
It's playing a big role. I mean, Central Texas is, you know, it's humid, it's known for rain, and at the same time it's going through like a huge drought, which is climate related. And then you get the remnants of a tropical storm. And because the air is full of more moisture and the water is warmer, these things happen at a pace and a ferocity that we hear over and over and over again from experts, from first responders, from people who lived there their whole lives. Like, I've never seen anything like this before. And that's just become the normal thing I hear every time I cover one of these things is I've never seen anything like this before. So I don't know how else you would explain it.
Colby Ikowicz
I mean, given the increase in natural disasters that we seem to be seeing. You talked a little bit about the alerts and the warnings that went out on Thursday and Friday, but does our current alert system for these types of events, do they work well enough to be keeping people safe?
Brianna Sachs
It's a very complex question. And it's so hard in these situations because everyone wants to point the finger and look for something to blame. And the fact is emergency management in this country is a broken system and it has been for a while. And it's just a Very difficult thing to cover. And alerting is part of that. Right. It's a whole landscape of different types of messaging and warning and connections that have to happen between federal, state, local resources and officials. And we've lost so many valuable experts from the National Weather Service, from FEMA because of the Trump administration and the Doge's cuts and things like that. So at a time when these disasters are getting worse, like, we're kind of coming in with a lot less expertise than we used to have. And then at the same time, you just have people being human where we forget, we forget about risk, we forget about danger. We want to just enjoy a Fourth of July barbecue and aren't really registering when we get a phone alert that says, oh, there might be a flash flood in your area, like you. You, I don't think would immediately imagine something like this. And then at the same time, the Kerr county officials, they also said that they weren't warned or that they didn't know this was coming despite the warnings and the predictions. And so there just seems to continue to be a big disconnect between the dire information and what we know can happen and living that. And I think that's just one of the biggest challenges in this space is how do you get people to understand and to visualize something like this happening to you? Because it is really hard to imagine something like this happening to you.
Colby Ikowicz
Brianna, you mentioned the doge, the Department of Government Efficiency, the cuts to the National Weather Service. I've seen a lot of chatter about how that had an impact on, you know, not being able to alert people in time for this, this event, that the warning system is already imperfect. How much of a role did those cuts to the National Weather Service play in this particular disaster? And what's the outlook for our country to be prepared for the next one?
Brianna Sachs
Yeah, it's a good question. There's been conflicting reporting that, you know, it didn't impact it, that it did. But I don't see how it couldn't have. Because again, when you lose just a large swath of experts whose sole job it is is to watch weather and then to alert people, that does have a cascading effect. And we do know that a top meteorologist in the area, he did leave his post in the National Weather Service, and that's a very key vacancy. He oversees warnings which were issued in Kerr county, and he is a warning coordination meteorologist. So he's responsible for working with emergency managers and the public so that they know what to do when something like this happens. And so that role, as well as hundreds of others, are still empty. After these people accepted the early retirement offers and they left, what specifically in.
Colby Ikowicz
The state of Texas have they done or are they saying about their alert system and their response to this, to this tragedy?
Brianna Sachs
I believe there will be a review. There's always an after action report in something like this. And again, it's still, they're still searching for bodies, so it's not really the time yet for them to turn and look at this. We did report that there had been discussions for a long time and efforts to try and get a flood monitoring and warning system in Kerr county, but they just couldn't get the budget for it. And then recently they did get the money to bring on a contractor to do a review of the county's system and then submit a proposal. So, you know, government just works slowly. I'm sure it will really now become the center of their efforts after this.
Colby Ikowicz
And President Trump, he signed a disaster declaration for these floods. What else, if anything, have we heard from the Trump administration on this?
Brianna Sachs
Governor Abbott praised the Trump administration and DHS Secretary Kristi Noem for their quick response. The Trump administration did promise they would do everything to help the governor. FEMA is still, however, pretty hamstrung because they have these budget limitations in place where for things over at that hundred thousand dollars, which is like basically everything, they have to get permission from, you know, a series of channels. And so they can't just go and do their usual job. There's just a lot of more things that like that they have to go through to act quickly. And so I'm going to be watching to see how that unfolds in the next few days and weeks.
Colby Ikowicz
Yeah. I was going to ask you, Brianna, like, as this story progresses, as we learn more and more about the response and the inability to get people to safety in time, what else are you going to be looking for and reporting on?
Brianna Sachs
I think it's still so important to go back to these places and in the weeks and months later and just see how the community is forever changed and what the emotional, psychological, structural changes are to, to a, to a place that was so beloved. And so I think it's important to try and keep capturing that the loss. Right. The loss doesn't go away and what can we do better in the future? So that's, that's what I want to keep reporting on.
Colby Ikowicz
Well, Brianna, thank you so much for coming on and thank you for reporting on this terrible, terrible story.
Brianna Sachs
Thank you for having me. I'm sure I will be back.
Colby Ikowicz
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The episode opens with a harrowing account of the sudden and devastating flash flood that struck Kerr County, Texas, early on Friday morning. Colby Ikowicz narrates the dire situation faced by Thad Hartfield, whose son, Aiden, was staying in a vacation home by the Guadalupe River during the July 4th weekend.
At [00:08], Thad Hartfield recounts the terrifying moment he received a call from his son at 4 a.m., informing him that water had risen to 4 inches in the house. Within minutes, the water surged to 4 feet, forcing Aiden and his friends to seek higher ground. Tragically, a massive cypress tree struck the house, and the subsequent chaos left Aiden and two others missing. Thad emphasizes the emotional toll of the disaster:
Thad Hartfield [00:26]: "This was my call to duty. I'm accepting the challenge."
As of the episode's release, over 90 people have lost their lives, with many still missing, marking it as the worst freshwater flood in the United States in nearly five decades. Thad, overwhelmed by the devastation, has stepped back from active search efforts to cope with the potential loss of his son.
Reporter Brianna Sachs provides an in-depth analysis of the factors that led to the catastrophic flooding in Central Texas, an area notoriously known as "Flash Flood Alley."
At [03:30], Sachs explains:
Brianna Sachs: "Central Texas has a really interesting topography... the soil is dry and thin, and when water hits that, it's more prone to flooding."
The region's combination of undulating hills, steep canyons, and exposed limestone under the riverbeds contributes to rapid water runoff during heavy rainfall. Despite being humid and accustomed to rainfall, the area had been suffering from a severe drought, leaving the soil unable to absorb the sudden deluge.
Sachs highlights the inadequacies in the emergency alert systems:
Brianna Sachs [05:35]: "Authorities and officials didn't make the connection when they got this forecast. There wasn't a lot of serious messaging outside of the National Weather Service alerts."
The lack of effective communication channels, especially in rural areas with poor connectivity, meant that many residents were unaware of the impending danger until it was too late. Additionally, local emergency management systems have been weakened due to budget cuts and loss of expertise, further hampering timely responses.
One of the most heartbreaking segments details the fate of Camp Mystic, a Christian girls' overnight camp along the Guadalupe River.
At [10:46], Sachs describes the chaos:
Brianna Sachs: "The water is rising quickly. Campers were struggling to run to other cabins or higher ground. The water just kept coming up, coming up, coming up."
Camp Mystic, housing approximately 700 to 750 children, was caught off guard by the swift rise of floodwaters around 4 a.m. The camp's policy against using cell phones or tablets meant that many campers were unaware of the impending danger until the floodwaters arrived. Tragically, the camp director, Dick Eastland, lost his life while attempting to rescue his campers.
The emotional turmoil for parents is palpable as reporters like Aralise Hernandez document firsthand accounts of frantic searches for missing children. The confirmation of the death of an eight-year-old girl, Linnie, adds to the profound sense of loss and despair facing the community.
In a broader analysis, Sachs discusses the role of climate change in exacerbating natural disasters:
Brianna Sachs [17:27]: "Central Texas is going through a huge drought, which is climate-related... These things happen at a pace and a ferocity that we hear over and over and over again from experts."
Sachs asserts that while there have always been natural fluctuations in weather patterns, the increasing frequency and intensity of disasters like the Texas flash floods are closely linked to climate change. Warmer, moisture-laden air contributes to more severe storms, making such events more destructive.
The episode delves into systemic failures in emergency management that contributed to the disaster's severity.
At [20:22], Sachs criticizes the reduction in funding and personnel for critical agencies:
Brianna Sachs: "Emergency management in this country is a broken system... We've lost so many valuable experts from the National Weather Service."
The departure of key meteorologists and support staff has created gaps in the ability to issue timely and effective warnings. This, combined with bureaucratic hurdles within FEMA, has hindered swift disaster response efforts.
Governor Abbott has praised the Trump administration for their quick response, yet Sachs notes the limitations faced by FEMA due to budget restrictions and procedural delays. A review of the county's alert systems is expected, but immediate aid remains crucial as the community grapples with the aftermath.
As the episode concludes, Sachs emphasizes the importance of ongoing reporting and community support:
Brianna Sachs [23:49]: "It's important to try and keep capturing that the loss doesn't go away and what can we do better in the future."
The focus shifts to the long-term recovery efforts, psychological impacts on survivors, and structural changes needed to prevent future tragedies. Sachs commits to continuing coverage to highlight the community's resilience and the lessons learned from this devastating event.
This episode of Post Reports offers a comprehensive and deeply personal look into the devastating flash floods in Kerr County, Texas. Through firsthand accounts and expert analysis, listeners gain insight into the tragic human cost, the environmental factors at play, and the systemic failures that exacerbated the disaster. The episode serves as a poignant reminder of the urgent need for improved emergency management and proactive measures in the face of increasingly frequent and severe natural disasters.
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