Bada$$ Behavior ft. Joey Bada$$

Summary

Pour Minds Podcast: "Bada$$ Behavior ft. Joey Bada$$"

Original Air Date: October 17, 2025
Hosts: Lex P, Dre (Andrea Nicole)
Guest: Joey Bada$$

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Episode Overview

In this lively episode of Pour Minds, Lex P and Dre welcome multi-talented rapper and actor Joey Bada$$ for a candid conversation touching on his career in music and acting, Black love, mental health, fatherhood, the state of the music industry, financial literacy, and so much more. The conversation is high-energy, humorous, and filled with gems—delivered with the signature "drunk therapy session with your friends" vibe that Pour Minds is known for.

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Key Discussion Highlights

Reflecting on Meaningful Roles: Two Distant Strangers

• [04:22] Lex recalls seeing Joey in the Netflix short film Two Distant Strangers, released during the George Floyd protests. She asks Joey about the mental and emotional toll of playing such a heavy role.
  • Joey on Accepting the Role:
    "It was heavy. It was a heavy idea to portray and to play myself dying repeatedly, getting killed repeatedly... I had to do therapy after." ([06:17])
  • The Reality of Traumatizing Scenes:
    Joey shares that they filmed in L.A. as if it were New York, with scenes so real passersby thought the police violence was genuine. He still has scars from filming.

Music Evolution, Process, and New Album

• New Project – "Lonely at the Top":
  • Joey explains this latest album was a notably fast, free-flowing project made in six months, prioritizing creative fun over overthinking.
    • "This one was kind of like a fearless type of move for me as a creative, where I'm just like, you know what? This is where I'm at right now. Put it out." ([10:23])
• Artistic Process:
  • Sometimes inspired by beats, sometimes by life events or just words—Joey doesn’t limit himself to one creative method.
  • Writing can be therapeutic: "Sometimes it comes from a place of...I'm dealing with some real life shit. And I turn to the page, like for therapy." ([12:35])
• Balancing Consciousness and Fun:
  • Joey reflects on balancing meaningful messages for young listeners with having fun and letting loose creatively.

From Rapper to Actor

• Transition to Acting:
  • Joey always aspired to act, attending a performing arts high school (though admits he got kicked out after the first year because of culture shock).
  • The moniker "Badass" wasn’t about being reckless but about being a “rebel with a cause.” ([15:12])
  • On playing "Unique" in Power: Raising Kanan, Joey notes the role fits his fly New York spirit: "I've always been a fly nigga... It's just, you know, once they put them clothes on me and the chains and shit. I'm like, I know exactly what to do with this." ([27:12])

Black Love, Family, and Healing

• Black Love as Example:
  • "I think that it's my duty as a black man to love a black woman and to show up for a black woman. Black woman gave me life... that is our way of how we heal ourselves is within each other." ([15:45])
• Knowing She Was The One:
  • Joey shares that he knew from the very first time his fiancé visited his house. Both of their grandmothers affirmed the relationship.
• On Fatherhood:
  • Joey discusses being a father to a daughter and son, describing it as "a reformative experience." He stresses the importance of maintaining trust with his daughter and role-modeling for his son. ([20:01])

State of the Music Industry

• Lizzo’s Viral Comments:
  • They discuss Lizzo's take on how the music industry is crowded and even big names like Drake and Lady Gaga struggle to cut through the noise.
  • Joey observes: "It’s congested... There’s so much music coming out every day. It’s almost hard to keep up." ([40:14])
  • Attention spans are shrinking, and with streaming, projects don’t get their own moment.
• Radio & Promotion:
  • Loss of radio means artists must self-promote more. Joey admits, "Certain artists who don’t promote they sht. ‘Cause, you know, I put my sht out, promoted a couple times... when you don’t have artists proactively promoting...it’s easy to get lost." ([42:01])
  • Platforms like podcasts can now make or break a record—Lex mentions Joe Budden’s podcast as an example. ([56:11])
• TikTok Era:
  • Songs go viral, but fans often know only 15 seconds of the hit due to algorithms and trends.

Financial Literacy & Uplifting Community

• Redefining 'The Hustle':
  • Joey shifts the conversation from “no snitching” culture and street life to how investing is more accessible to the Black community than ever before.
  • "Anybody could invest today. And you ain’t got to have $1,000. You could start with a hundred dollars. You can start with $50... The trick they don't teach us is—just start." ([62:51])
  • Joey, Lex, and Dre discuss crypto, options trading, and the importance of passing on financial knowledge to break cycles.
  • “We gotta find ways to hold ourselves accountable... sometimes we are what we attract.” ([96:33])

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

On Acting and Emotional Impact:

• Joey: "Having the...manifestations and the images you portray, you put out there...it was a heavy idea...I had to do therapy after." ([06:16])

On Black Love:

• Joey: "Black woman gave me life...that is our way of how we heal ourselves is within each other." ([15:45])

On Investing and Leaving Street Life:

• Joey: "Once you made more money and you know something that's legit than you did in the streets, it’s time to pack it up." ([61:02])
• Joey: “Open yourself a Robinhood, a Moomoo, a Public, Acorn, Webull... It’s so many platforms... I be on CNBC at 9:30 every morning!” ([62:51])

On Overgeneralizing Relationship Mistakes:

• Joey: "We are what we attract. Sometimes you got to take a moment and really think about what about you allowed this type of energy into your life...You gotta make the necessary adjustments so you could allow different type of energy to come in." ([96:33])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [04:22] – Joey talks Two Distant Strangers, trauma, therapy
• [08:24] – On his music process and new album
• [13:36] – Transition from rapper to actor; story behind "badass"
• [15:45] – Black love, selflessness, legacy
• [19:02] – Fatherhood and its effect on him
• [20:45] – Playing Unique in Power, sex symbol status
• [39:37] – Lizzo’s commentary, the music industry, fleeting hits
• [42:13] – The fall of radio, the rise of self-promotion
• [56:11] – Podcasts as new gatekeepers, word of mouth
• [57:39] – Culture of snitching and community accountability
• [62:51] – Investing, trading, financial empowerment
• [72:03] – Joey introduces his Impact Mentorship program
• [79:28] – Is music too sex-centered now?
• [88:38] – Q&A: Outgrowing unsupportive friends
• [91:16] – Q&A: Healing, self-accountability, and dating after heartbreak

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Fun & Lighter Segments

• Lyrically Correct Game: Joey impresses with his hip-hop knowledge (and catches a few tricky questions)! ([31:05]–[37:00])
• Comparing Skating Rink Culture: Houston vs. Brooklyn throwbacks and skating stories. ([34:53]–[35:20])
• Mocktail Break: Everyone samples a "Golden Verse" drink in Joey Bada$$’s honor.
• Bop of the Week: Spotlight on favorite new and old tracks—Joey shouts out Jay Electronica’s new drop. ([82:14]–[84:09])
• Advices Segment (“Pour Your Heart Out”): Listeners write in about friendship boundaries and starting over after heartbreak, with thoughtful guidance from all three.

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Joey Bada$$’s Initiatives

• Impact Mentorship Program:
  • Launched in 2023, pairs young men of color with professionals from various industries (sports, culinary, media, music, directing) for mentorship and exposure.
  • Joey: "If we make it this far, we gain the success, and we don’t leave doors open behind us, it’s like, what is it for?" ([74:47])
  • Learn more: impactmentorship.org

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Closing Shoutouts

• Upcoming Tour with Ab-Soul and Rapsody begins October 16th in Boston.
  • Tickets at joeybadass.com/tour ([103:12])
• Album "Lonely at the Top" out now on all streaming platforms.
• Find Joey:
  • @joeybadass on all socials (though he admits he deletes the app after posting!)
• Lex P & Dre:
  • New episodes Mondays at 10am
  • Shop Muse Beauty Collection (Lex’s beauty brand)

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Tone, Energy, and Noteworthy Aspects

The episode is equal parts insightful and entertaining, combining real talk about culture, relationships, and financial growth with plenty of laughter and playful banter. Joey Bada$$ is open, grounded, and eager to share knowledge—both about navigating the entertainment industry and about uplifting the Black community through mentorship and financial empowerment.

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Recommended For...

• Fans of Joey Bada$$ music or acting
• Anyone interested in Black love, fatherhood, and healing
• Up-and-coming artists navigating today’s music landscape
• Listeners seeking motivation on community building and financial literacy
• Pour Minds fans who love a “lit” girls’ night vibe with substance!

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Dre]

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[Joey Badass]

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[Joey Badass]

Even rock the boat, Aaliyah.

[Lex P]

Rock the boat. Stuff like that.

[Joey Badass]

Like, yo, I was a kid singing that. You didn't know what she swimming like.

[Dre]

We know till we got all this.

[Lex P]

We had no business. Yeah, I do think that we need to bring back creative ways of talking about.

[Ad]

That.

[Guest]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

Put her on the counter But. Oh, y' all remember.

[Joey Badass]

Look, it's kids out here.

[Dre]

But we did still have very Runchy.

[Joey Badass]

No, we did.

[Lex P]

We did.

[Joey Badass]

But you know what?

[Dre]

Remember like that by Webby?

[Joey Badass]

No, I don't remember that. But I do remember Pretty Ricky.

[Dre]

Oh, yeah, Pretty Ricky used to be cutting up.

[Joey Badass]

And you know what's so funny is, like, who?

[Lex P]

Who?

[Joey Badass]

I'm not about to be on the hotline at five in the morning.

[Lex P]

Five in the morning. Why you not here?

[Joey Badass]

We sleep like we sleep already. I'm not gonna lie. It just happened already.

[Lex P]

I'll probably be on the phone I made at five in the morning.

[Joey Badass]

That was a Y N song.

[Dre]

It was, but we was also Y N's.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, we was. We was.

[Lex P]

What's up, y'? All? It's your girl Lex P. And it's.

[Dre]

Your girl Dre and Nicole.

[Lex P]

And you are tuned in to another episode of Poor Mind, where a drunk.

[Dre]

Mind speaks sober thoughts.

[Lex P]

So today we have a superstar in the building, a very special guest. A actor, a rapper. I'm telling you, y' all have seen him in your favorite shows, and we finna get into some good conversations today. Cause I love a smart man, and I know y' all do, too. We got Joey Badass in the building. Thank you for joining us.

[Joey Badass]

Absolutely. Thank you for having me.

[Dre]

Oh, man, we are so excited to have you here. We didn't do the song.

[Lex P]

What?

[Dre]

We didn't do the song.

[Joey Badass]

Oh.

[Lex P]

Cause I got so excited.

[Dre]

Cause we got a guest today.

[Lex P]

We got a guest today. We always do that. But I got so excited. I got excited.

[Dre]

So she.

[Lex P]

Cause that's me. I get excited, and I be. But let me tell you, because I want to tell you about the first time I saw you in a role, and I was like, wow, I saw you in Two Distant Strangers on Netflix. And that was. It was like. It came out during a time where, like, all the protesting was going on. It was during the height of, like, the George Floyd stuff was going on. And before we get into the icebergs and stuff, I want you to talk about that a little bit about, like, how important it was for you to take that role and stand for something. Because I do feel like a lot of people in your position, they don't want to stand for nothing because they don't want to offend nobody. So talk about that.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah. So shout out to Trayvon Free, which is. Who's the writer and the director of that film. It came to me through a friend of mine. His name is James Samuel. I got a call in, like, the middle of the. At the beginning of the pandemic. And my man James hit me like, yo, my man Trayvon got this script. I told him, you the guy. I'mma put you on FaceTime. He did just that. And we was in the money. You know, Trayvon sent me the script. I read it, and interestingly enough, as important as I felt that it was, I almost didn't do it because I was at a point in my life where, you know, I was very at peace.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I mean? And, like, the role, it required me to go to these dark places to, like, face certain trauma that, like, you know, I faced with police and stuff like that. So I was that close to not taking it. But then, you know, I decided, you know what? This is purposeful work. This is important. And I feel like it's landed on my doorstep for me to portray for a reason. So, you know, I picked it up, but it was. It was. It was. It was heavy. It was heavy.

[Lex P]

Very heavy.

[Joey Badass]

It was heavy. For sure. For sure. It's like, you know, having the. I'm very big on, like, the manifestations and the images that you portray, you put out there and stuff like that. So it was. It was a heavy idea to portray and to play myself dying repeatedly, getting killed repeatedly. You know what I mean? So, yeah, it was tough work. I had to do therapy after.

[Lex P]

Really?

[Joey Badass]

Yeah.

[Ad]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

I mean, it was. So it was like one of those films, short films that you watch and you think about it a lot. And it's like, I could understand how that was probably, like, traumatizing to play, because I couldn't. Like you said, words are powerful images.

[Joey Badass]

Even more.

[Dre]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lex P]

So the fact that you're acting all that out. So when did you realize afterwards that you kind of like, okay, I need to go to therapy, man.

[Joey Badass]

I just felt like there was a lot that went into it, like, you know, a lot of things in the background that I'd rather not, you know, publicize. But towards the end, like, you know, there was. At one point, we was filming. We was on the street, and we actually filmed it in la. Even though it portrays us being in.

[Lex P]

New York, it definitely gave New York.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah. Yeah. Well, we actually did it in la. And I remember I was on the ground. We was doing one of the shots with, like, the place. Police have wrestled me to the ground, and people would be stopping in their cars, like, yo, is this real?

[Lex P]

Oh, wow.

[Joey Badass]

And I'll be on the ground, like, yeah, I'm good. You know what I mean? So, you know, just, just, just, just those moments, like, you know, actually taking physical pain.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

Cause it's like, you know, there's no soft way to be wrestled to the ground.

[Lex P]

Right.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I mean? You can't. Yeah, there's a scar that I literally have, like, still to this day. Yeah, yeah.

[Lex P]

From filming that. Oh, wow.

[Joey Badass]

I mean, you know, it's y' all beginning.

[Lex P]

Yeah. Being rough with me. Nah, see, he said I'm a stunt double. I know, that's right.

[Dre]

So I definitely wanted to touch a little bit on your music because I feel like, you know, you have like a old school 90s type of vibe, but then you also have really conscious lyrics, but you touch on, like, modern day issues. So I wanted to talk about your new album, Lonely at the Top.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah. So this is a project, you know, interestingly enough. So I've always been an artist who's, like, kind of prided myself on having the message, you know what I mean? Because I got a little brother, he's 18 now, but, you know, I've just always been conscious of him looking up to me and like, you know, listening to my music and stuff like that. And then, you know, even beyond that, just kids of the world, you know what I'm saying? Like, idolizing us as rappers, celebrities, public figures. And, you know, I've always just been mindful enough to leave messages in the music, you know what I mean? Like, having my moments of fun when I can, but definitely being more centered around leaving important messages. However, this project was the first of its kind for me. And I say that because this one, I really prioritize, like, having just some more fun and like, kind of like, yeah, this is the fastest project I ever made.

[Lex P]

Okay.

[Joey Badass]

I made this joint in like the last six months, and I was. I was pretty much like, you know, I made it in the spirit of a mixtape, and I was pretty much. My intention was like, yo, I don't want to get in my own way creatively. I just want to let it flow and then just release it. Because, you know, a lot of the time what happens, I'll speak for myself. I take like 2, 3, 4, 5 years sometimes to put out between projects. And it's like by the time I put out a project to the world, some of these songs is like years old. You know what I mean? So for this one, and then what happens as a result of that is that a lot of music never sees the light of day, because by the time it's time to put it out, I'm like, not there anymore.

[Lex P]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joey Badass]

It's like, I'm not there anymore. So this one was kind of like a fearless type of move for me as a creative, where I'm just like, you know what? This is where I'm at right now. Put it out.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I mean? So, yeah, it felt good in that regard.

[Dre]

So, like, what is your process when you're making an album?

[Joey Badass]

It depends, you know, for this one, like, I said, this one was really just about, yo, I want to put music out, and I'm gonna gather the collection of the shit that's resonating with me the most in this moment and just throw it out. But usually I'm very methodical, and.

[Lex P]

You.

[Joey Badass]

Know, I take my time with the process and, you know, I usually lean into, like, having some type of concept or some type of theme within my projects, you know what I'm saying? Like, I always kind of look at it like a movie or story being told in some sorts, you know what I mean? So that's why I said this one was kind of the first of its kind. Cause I was like, f all that.

[Dre]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

I just want to put out good music, you know what I mean, and just kind of find a. A world that these songs that is resonating with me right now could live in, you know?

[Lex P]

Okay, so are you.

[Dre]

Because that's what I was wondering. Like, do you go in the studio and you already have your lyrics, or are you more of a person who, like, you be feeling the beat, feeling the vibe? Oh, I do this.

[Joey Badass]

You see, I always say, like, there's no. I don't. I don't choose one method.

[Dre]

Okay.

[Joey Badass]

I do it all.

[Lex P]

Okay.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I'm saying? So one day I would get an idea, and I'm like, okay, I'm gonna create this. Like, this is my intention. I want to make a song about this. Another day I'll be like, yo, that beat is dope. Let me feel the vibe. Let me find it.

[Lex P]

Okay.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I mean? And then, you know, let it come.

[Lex P]

So you feel a little meek, because I see a lot of times they'll go in with the melody.

[Dre]

They'd be like, yeah, yeah.

[Lex P]

So that's how you be doing.

[Joey Badass]

Varies. It varies. Sometimes I even just get so inspired to just almost like, just from the standpoint of, like, no beat.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

I'm just like, what I want to say, and I'll just write or, you know, sometimes it comes from a place of, you know, I'm dealing with some real life shit. And I turn to the pace, like for therapy.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I'm saying? I just write what I feel and then boom, that becomes a song. Now let me go find a beat that could be a home for these words, you know what I mean?

[Lex P]

That's what Lil Wayne said. That's how you let the beat build, bitch. Okay, girl. She said that. You know what I'm saying? That you know what I'm saying?

[Dre]

And he is notorious for going in the studio with no lyrics.

[Lex P]

That's what I'm saying. So I think it's very. Cuz we see a lot of like rappers who try to act or actors who try to rap. I feel like it's more successful for rappers that try to act versus actors or like athletes that try to do music. It never goes over well that way.

[Dre]

It doesn't.

[Lex P]

It never does. If you see an actor or an athlete try to do music, even if they are good. Because I'm not going to lie. I've seen, I've heard a few actors and athletes who actually make really dope music. But it never just translates, it never translate. But I feel like if a rapper goes into acting, it works. So for you, how was that going over to acting and what do you like more? Because you're really good at both.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, I always had my sights on acting.

[Lex P]

Okay.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah. Like, I knew I wanted to act since I was in like high school. And I actually had went to performing arts school when I went to high school. And you know, I got accepted into the drama program. But you know, it was such a culture shock for me after the first year I kind of got kicked out because like, you know, you was being.

[Lex P]

Joey Badass, where that name come from.

[Dre]

By the way, you was badass in high school.

[Joey Badass]

I mean, you know, for me, badass wasn't necessarily about being bad and being reckless. It was more about like just an energy.

[Lex P]

Okay.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I'm saying? It's like, you know, I mean, define.

[Lex P]

Bad, but that's what I'm saying. Cause the East Coast, y' all got Joey Badass. The south, we got.

[Dre]

We got Boosie Badass.

[Joey Badass]

That's right.

[Lex P]

That's right. And we call her Boosie Badass. Cause he'll punish you.

[Joey Badass]

There's a spectrum of you know what I'm saying? Who you on the spectrum? Are you Joey Badass or you Boosie Badass? That's what I'm saying.

[Lex P]

Two different types of bad. It's two different type of badass. So define your badass.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, for me it's more just about like I was just a rebel, okay? You know what I mean? It's like I was always gonna do what I wanted to do. Do it my way when I wanted to do it. Nobody was gonna tell me anything. Nobody was gonna walk over me, Nothing like that. You know what I'm saying? Like, I was just always bound to do things on my time, you know what I'm saying? Like, I. Sometimes I look at it like it's a spiritual thing.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

It's a spirit thing. You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm spiritually bad, you know what I'm saying? Like you ain't. Yeah, like, that boy, he gonna do. He gonna do him right.

[Dre]

You a rebel with the cause.

[Joey Badass]

A rebel with the cause, for sure.

[Lex P]

Come on, now.

[Dre]

Not without one.

[Lex P]

So I do look. Cause we just had Saray on the show. Amazing. Do you feel like this relationship. Because I've seen you speak about, you know, like, black love and how you, like, you know, I saw an interview that you did, and you said, you know, loving a black woman, it's more than, like, me loving her. It's like I get the opportunity to be experiencing this. And the way you talk about your relationship, it seems like it was a bit healing for you. So talk about that a little bit about, like, how it changed you.

[Joey Badass]

I mean, what I'll say for me, right, like, you know, first of all, I feel like as I grow with age, what I realize about love is how much of a selfless thing it is, you know? But in my situation as a black man with a black woman, to me, it's just important to be able to carry that example, you know what I mean? Because for me, it's like. I like to think that I have a collective mindset, you know what I mean? And I think that it's my duty as a black man to love a black woman and to show up for a black woman, you know what I mean? And Black woman gave me life. And I want to always push that for our nation. And when I say our nation, I mean it's black people, you know what I'm saying? Collectively, that we, you know, we gotta understand that that is our power. You know, that's why they call it the nuclear family, you know what I mean? It's nuclear power, you know what I'm saying? That is our way of how we heal ourselves is within each other. You know what I mean? So I always just want. I think for me, I innately understand that. And I carry that proud.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

And talk about. Go ahead. Sorry.

[Dre]

Well, I wanted to ask, so. Because I. I always interested to know from black men who get engaged, get married. Like, what was the pivotal moment in your relationship where he was like, I know. This is the one. This is my wife.

[Joey Badass]

Man. I knew it from very early, you know, from amazing. From the first time. From the first time she came to my house.

[Lex P]

I know. That's right.

[Joey Badass]

I knew it. And it's funny because we both had a moment with both of our grandmothers where both of our grandmothers kind of like where we met both of our grandmothers way before we were supposed to. But, you know, when you start dating somebody and it's like, somebody be at.

[Lex P]

Your house or something.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

Okay.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, it's like. It's like, oh, damn. Like, ain't supposed to meet. Yeah.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Me.

[Joey Badass]

Right. You know what I mean? But it happens. And, you know, it ended up being like this natural synergy type of vibe. And then, you know, you connect with grandma. So, you know, long story short, she had, like, you know, connected with my grandma. And, you know, my grandma was like, yo, that's your wife right there.

[Lex P]

Oh, wow. I love that.

[Dre]

Well, if granny played.

[Joey Badass]

But it's funny, though, because for me, it was reassuring. Yeah, I already felt like that. You know what I mean? Like. Like, I. I felt like that, but it was bubbling underneath.

[Dre]

Yeah, you was something like.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, I was trying to keep it cool. Grandma came and said that. I was like, all right.

[Lex P]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joey Badass]

It's for real. It's real.

[Dre]

See, your real life rude period after.

[Lex P]

Like, talking to her and now talking to you, I can see, like, yalls energy is very much the same vibe. Like, it's a. It seems like a very, very good balance.

[Dre]

For sure.

[Lex P]

100%.

[Dre]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

Love that. So talk about fatherhood. Cause you're a daddy now, and, you know, you're still working and you're still traveling. So how has that been?

[Joey Badass]

So, you know, this is actually my second child.

[Lex P]

Okay.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah. So, yeah. I mean, fatherhood is beautiful.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

Like, fatherhood is a reformative experience. I feel like, you know, I had my first kid when I was 23. My daughter, she's 7 now. Oh, yeah. So I already knew God was giving me a girl first.

[Lex P]

Sometimes. Slow y' all down. Y' all need that little girl.

[Joey Badass]

Absolutely. Absolutely. Like, you know, so that taught me so much, you know, raising up a little black girl.

[Lex P]

Just.

[Joey Badass]

Man, it's such a. As a black man. What's the word? It's such a. I don't know. It's Kind of like nerve wracking.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I mean? I'm like, yo. Cause for me, what I think about the most is I always want her to trust me. I never want to sever that relationship. I never want to sever that trust. I always want her to know that, like, daddy got her back, got her best interest, you know what I mean? So I protect that and I cater to that as she gets older, you know what I mean? And now having a son, you know, every man wants.

[Lex P]

Oh, gosh, I know. You were so happy.

[Joey Badass]

Oh, yeah. And, you know, that's another thing. You know, when I met Ray, I'm like, yeah, she a boy, mom.

[Dre]

Ooh, you already knew.

[Joey Badass]

Already knew.

[Lex P]

He had it on his mind.

[Joey Badass]

She gonna give me a son.

[Lex P]

There's so plenty. But.

[Dre]

Okay, so I wanted to ask you a little bit about your character on Power. So do you feel like you portraying Unique has made you a sex symbol? Because I feel like it has. I feel like people.

[Lex P]

The girls.

[Dre]

The girls be going crazy. And I feel like when you portray a certain character so well, people probably think that you're really like that in real life, like, you really like this person. So do you feel like you had to pull anything out of yourself to portray the character? Do you feel like y' all have any similarities?

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, I would say, you know, we got a lot of similarities. I think for me, when I go into that mode as an actor, like, when I'm taking on these characters, I think the first thing that I gotta understand is what are the similarities? You know what I mean? What do I have in common with these people? Because the way I look at it, right, we could all go. All the guys in here, we could all go audition for the same role, but we all going to wear it differently.

[Dre]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

And how we wear it is reflective of who we already are coming through that character. You know what I mean? So we're unique. Yeah. You know, I definitely do feel like that role was destined for me.

[Dre]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

You know, because I remember when you.

[Dre]

Play it so good.

[Lex P]

Yeah. Very cool.

[Joey Badass]

Thank you. I appreciate that. And, you know, another thing, too, is I always knew that I'd be able to play a role like that well. And I put it off for a long time, and I say it came at the right time, because what I wanted to do was prove or show people that I had range.

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[Ed Helms]

Hey everyone, Ed Helms here and hi.

[Joey Badass]

I'm Kal Penn and we're the hosts of Irsay, The Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club.

[Ed Helms]

This week on the podcast, I am sitting down with Jenny Garth, host of the iHeart podcast. I choose me to discuss the new Audible adaptation of the timeless Jane Austen classic Pride and Prejudice. This is not a trick question. There's no wrong answer. What role would I play?

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[Joey Badass]

No. So, yeah, like. Like, I always knew that I. That I'd be great at playing, portraying that type of character, but I wanted to make sure that people got to see my range first. So I was grateful for Mr. Robot, two distant strangers, you know what I mean? Cause I didn't. You know, it's important for me going back to the point of a rapper transitioning to acting. It's important for me to not get typecasted.

[Dre]

Right. You know what I mean?

[Lex P]

A lot.

[Joey Badass]

They do that with rappers a lot. It's like, oh, he's a rapper. Okay. Put him in a urban street role. Let's make him a drug dealer or let's make him a rapper. You know what I mean? So I fight against that a lot because, you know, to me, it's like, yo, I really want to show people I got the chops.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Dre]

So I be feeling like, what is it with black women and, like, drug dealer thug characters? Cause when I say the girls be going crazy over you, Nina, that's what.

[Lex P]

I was about to ask him. Did you know? Cause you said you tapped into the energy of, like, your uncle around you. So did you know that the girls. He was like, yeah, I'm finna let them, like, want me.

[Joey Badass]

Nah, nah, I ain't know. But you know, what I can say is, like, the parts about Unique that I feel like is the similarities is like, I've always been a fly nigga.

[Lex P]

Yeah, you do give, like, New York. Like, when Beyonce was talking about what she said, I like them boys up top. When you think of, like, a New York man, you are the epitome of, like, a New York man. So I think that probably just, like, naturally came out in the role and it was the accent, because I think when it comes to. We talk about sex appeal a lot on the show, and I think that's something that men and women can embody, and you either have it or you don't. So it's not necessarily like you're doing it on purpose. It's just you have you. You a fly facts, you know what I'm saying? So he can't take it out of him. It's in his DNA.

[Joey Badass]

It's in my DNA.

[Dre]

It's in there.

[Lex P]

You know what I'm saying?

[Joey Badass]

It's just, you know, once. Once they put them clothes on me and the chains and shit. I'm like, I know exactly what the to do with this.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

In fact, I'mma show y' all I need to be done with this. And, you know, shout out to the whole production team at Raising Canaan because they gave me so much trust with that character. Because, you know, I always say, for me, I think my superpower as an actor is my instincts. You know, it's like you put me in the environment and that's where I'm gonna excel. Because I'm, like, existing in the room. I'm always trying to look for a way to live right. Like. Like, I don't look at it as acting. I look at it as, like, how can I live through this character? So them trusting me to be able to use my instincts and to do a lot of things that wasn't necessarily scripted or nobody told me to do, I think is also what made that character shine.

[Lex P]

So what's a role that you feel like you haven't done yet, but you know you would, like. I would absolutely kill this. Like, I would be good at this.

[Joey Badass]

Revolutionary.

[Dre]

Okay.

[Joey Badass]

And when I say that, I mean Daniel Kaluuya and Judas and the Black Messiah. Yeah. When he played Fred Hampton.

[Lex P]

Oh, my God.

[Joey Badass]

Or even when I think about Denzel or Malcolm X. Yeah. I mean, like, yeah, the revolution.

[Lex P]

I can see you doing that.

[Dre]

And I feel like that would really show your range.

[Joey Badass]

Absolutely.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

Absolutely.

[Lex P]

Yeah. I know the casting director's watching. Put my boy in.

[Dre]

Yo, we to need a new Malcolm X movie.

[Lex P]

Yeah. Liven it up a little bit. Hold on.

[Joey Badass]

Denzel did they thing they did with that Malcolm X movie. You know, I mean, like, so I would definitely want to do something that's more like Uncharted.

[Lex P]

Okay. Okay.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I'm saying?

[Lex P]

Cuz there's a lot of black stories that.

[Dre]

That we don't know about that we.

[Lex P]

Haven'T been educated on. So I feel like there are other leaders and people that we. That I don't even know that we could learn about. Like the role that you could play.

[Dre]

Yeah. Like, that movie that just came out, I think, what was it, like, seven, eight months ago? It was on Netflix about, like the. The women in the office.

[Joey Badass]

I think it's seven, six, eight. Yeah.

[Dre]

Right. I never knew about that story.

[Lex P]

Right.

[Dre]

So you. Right.

[Joey Badass]

Pardon me if I'm butchering the name, but yeah, girl.

[Dre]

Yeah, but we.

[Lex P]

We all know.

[Dre]

We all know the movie that Taraji.

[Lex P]

Played in where they were working at NASA.

[Dre]

Yep.

[Joey Badass]

You know, that's another one. Yeah.

[Lex P]

Yeah. So I Feel like it's a lot of important, important figures that we don't know about. That we don't know about. So there are people like, of course we love Malcolm X. We love mlk, but there's more stories, black stories that are very, very important.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

That we need to.

[Dre]

We don't know about you.

[Lex P]

So. All right, now, we didn't got the. The Sears look. We got the chatty. We get chatty. We supposed to the icebreaker first.

[Dre]

Yeah, we were supposed to do the icebreaker first.

[Joey Badass]

Icebreaker.

[Lex P]

The icebreaker was a literally correct because we were trying to make you comfortable, but I had to ask about that. Two distant strangers. I've been waiting to talk to you for five years since that came out, because I said I got to talk to him about it. And I love.

[Dre]

We have people on the show, and they feel like family. Like, I feel like he was already comfortable. But we still gonna play the game, though. We still gonna play the game.

[Joey Badass]

So let's do it.

[Dre]

Hey, everyone. My name is dejanae, and today's drink is called the golden verse, which represents our artist Joey Badass. And today, this drink can either be a cocktail or a mocktail. And we have some sprite, we have some ginger, and we also have some pineapple juice and a few dashes of lime juice just to take that sweetness off. So make sure you guys are making this cocktail while you guys are watching. Pour mine.

[Joey Badass]

Well, let me take a little sip of this. It is mocktail. Damn, I'm spilling it.

[Lex P]

It's a mocktail. It's a. Oh, it's raised to the top.

[Joey Badass]

It's to the rim.

[Dre]

To the rim.

[Lex P]

The ice melted a little. Okay, I'll ask the first one. We got some napkin, Joy.

[Dre]

Napkin.

[Lex P]

Okay, so I'll ask the first one. Dre, I know you know this. I know you probably know. Yeah, I know you know it. Okay, so how the shout out to lyrically correct y'? All. Make sure y' all get that. We're gonna put the link in the description so y' all can go buy this game. It's actually a really fun game.

[Joey Badass]

It is.

[Dre]

It's really fun.

[Lex P]

Okay, so I'm gonna ask the first one. So how it works is you ask a question in the lyrics, and you got to give the answer. Okay, so this is a woman's anthem in the 90s.

[Dre]

Oh, gosh.

[Joey Badass]

Okay.

[Lex P]

In shoop, what was Peppa's weakness?

[Joey Badass]

In shoop.

[Lex P]

Shoop.

[Dre]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah. Nah. See?

[Lex P]

Come on, now. You was born in 90.

[Joey Badass]

I'm. I'm out, you out. And, Shoop, what was Peppa's weakness?

[Lex P]

I'll give you a hint. Shoop. Here I go, Here I go. Here I go again. Girls, what's my weakness?

[Joey Badass]

Yeah. Damn.

[Lex P]

Okay, all right. Y' all still get the point. Give it up. He was close.

[Joey Badass]

Wait, what was it?

[Lex P]

What's is it?

[Dre]

She said, what's my weakness?

[Lex P]

Men. It's men.

[Dre]

Okay, what song? Talking about I wanna shoot, baby.

[Joey Badass]

Oh, okay. See, I ain't that. I ain't play that joint. I heard it in passing. Me, either.

[Dre]

I just remember that part.

[Joey Badass]

See, I. I wouldn't have remembered that part.

[Dre]

Cause when were you born?

[Lex P]

What year? 90, right?

[Joey Badass]

95.

[Lex P]

95. Oh, you a baby. Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

He ain't.

[Dre]

He is born in 90.

[Lex P]

When you give a old spirit. I thought we was connected. Come on, babe.

[Dre]

He said 90.

[Lex P]

I'm saying, I don't think he that old.

[Joey Badass]

It's like my third life, for real.

[Lex P]

Oh, you my nephew now? I gotta call your nephew? I thought you was right here. Auntie and uncle. Your nephew. I'm still 30, though. No, he's nephew.

[Joey Badass]

We in the 30 club.

[Dre]

We in the 30 club. We in the 30 club.

[Lex P]

All right, Go ahead, Dre.

[Dre]

Okay. How does Jay Z reintroduce himself?

[Lex P]

You know this?

[Joey Badass]

Let me introduce myself. My name is Ho to the ov.

[Lex P]

Now, you know that's his stomping ground.

[Joey Badass]

Keep the Jay Z ones coming. I get those all day.

[Lex P]

Okay, okay, okay, okay. Ooh. Ooh. This might be too Southern for you, but you got a Southern queen that's gonna help you.

[Dre]

I'm gonna help you out. I'm gonna help you out.

[Lex P]

What did the big timers wear with their gator boots?

[Joey Badass]

Oh, oh, gator boots. My Gucci suit.

[Lex P]

Yeah, yeah, the Gucci suit with the pimp dot Gucci. Yeah, you got it.

[Dre]

Okay.

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[Lex P]

You two, up.

[Dre]

That's a little old for me because, I don't know, maybe y' all know this. The Daddy Mac will make them.

[Lex P]

What?

[Joey Badass]

Oh, Jump.

[Dre]

Oh, Daddy Mac.

[Joey Badass]

Jump, Jump.

[Lex P]

Crisscross the.

[Joey Badass]

Make a jump. Yeah.

[Dre]

It's like I felt like I heard it, but I couldn't remember what song it. Okay, but y' all right. It is junk.

[Joey Badass]

You all right?

[Lex P]

Cause I was like.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. Sh. I feel a little better now.

[Lex P]

Okay.

[Joey Badass]

That threw me off with that first one.

[Lex P]

Y' all gonna know this one.

[Dre]

Okay.

[Lex P]

What's Too Short's favorite word? Bitch. Gi God.

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[Joey Badass]

That's my mom's favorite song, man. When I shout to my dukes.

[Lex P]

Too short. Dropped that song and shake that monkey A time was had. Okay. I was in high school when that song came. But I used to go to the teen clubs. That's how I knew I was a thot. I was a thot at a young age. The teen clubs used to be fun, man. The teen.

[Dre]

You used to be doing a crybaby on the.

[Lex P]

What did I see? I did that at the skating rink.

[Dre]

Bitches used to think they was salty when they could do the crybaby on the floor in my skates.

[Lex P]

Cause I used to run skate, and then I would slide and I would hit the crybaby while I was sliding.

[Joey Badass]

You was wilding.

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[Lex P]

He was cutting up Ms. Gray. Cutting up Ms. Gray. Doing a. I was thinking more eighth grade.

[Ed Helms]

No.

[Lex P]

Hell, no. I had been stopped going to the skate rink about eighth grade.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

We was in the skate. That was old.

[Dre]

Is skating a thing in New York? Do y' all have, like, skating?

[Joey Badass]

Yeah. When I was growing up, we had this in Brooklyn. We had this spot called Empire Skating Rink.

[Dre]

Okay.

[Joey Badass]

But they had to shut it down because you always get shot up. Oh, yeah. But skating was a. Was a big thing for me growing up. Like, I used to love going to Empire same, you know?

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

Like, they. They like the way it was set up. They had the rink, but then they had a middle section.

[Lex P]

Yeah. Yeah. That's how ours was set up.

[Dre]

That's how it was in Houston. So I'm from Houston. Like, we had this skating rink called Lockwood Shout out to. Like, it's still open, I think, to this day.

[Joey Badass]

Oh, shout out to y'. All. Yeah.

[Dre]

Blackouts on Fridays. And everybody would be on the floor.

[Joey Badass]

Doing the crybaby, dancing and all the cutting up.

[Lex P]

Yeah, y' all lucky I'm a changed woman. Because they're gonna be like, what's the crybaby? I'm not gonna give y'.

[Joey Badass]

All.

[Lex P]

You can't. Can't give a dem. It. Okay, who did the last one, me or you?

[Dre]

Okay, I'll do this.

[Lex P]

Okay, go ahead.

[Dre]

Okay.

[Lex P]

Which.

[Dre]

Well, no, I feel like that's too easy. That's too easy.

[Lex P]

We like an easy one.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, right.

[Dre]

But I feel. I feel like Joey being he be getting them.

[Joey Badass]

I got only got one wrong.

[Lex P]

Yeah, you have only one. Only one.

[Dre]

Okay, we going to do this one. When that blue and red suit fits her hips, so. Right. What does Fabulous say?

[Joey Badass]

That blue and red suit.

[Lex P]

I don't know that one.

[Dre]

That's why I said, yeah, this is a hard.

[Joey Badass]

Does Fabulous say that's. That's That's.

[Lex P]

That's.

[Joey Badass]

That's not so into you.

[Dre]

That is me. I do know what he say. Oh, when they blue and red suit hit them hips so right. I. I'm trying to give y' all the.

[Lex P]

I ain't got it.

[Dre]

I'm trying to give y' all how he said it.

[Lex P]

I ain't got it.

[Dre]

Whenever blue and red. When they blue and red suit hit them hips so right I be like, damn.

[Joey Badass]

I should have got that one. I should have got that.

[Lex P]

That's why I gave.

[Dre]

Cause I'm like, it's kind of hard, but you from New York.

[Joey Badass]

I should have got that. I just. I just couldn't. I'm like, that's not. He didn't say that in so it to you?

[Lex P]

No, he didn't.

[Dre]

He didn't say.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I mean? That's. That's with Lil Mo. That's baby Superwoman.

[Dre]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

Okay, so I guess all my cards are Southern, but this is the easy one. I know you can get this one. What does Petey Pablo want them to do after they take their shirt off?

[Joey Badass]

Oh, whip it in there like a helicopter. Take your shirt off.

[Lex P]

Feel like a helicopter. That was a hit.

[Joey Badass]

That was petty.

[Lex P]

Pablo. Petey Pablo.

[Joey Badass]

That song put North Carolina.

[Lex P]

You know what's crazy? I hate this story. I'm gonna tell you this story. We had a show in North Carolina, and we was like, every time we go to a different city, we play, like, whatever is popular in the city.

[Dre]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

So we was like, oh, we don't tell me.

[Joey Badass]

Nobody knew it.

[Lex P]

Nobody looking at us like, it was crazy. They knew it, but they was like, we don't listen to this.

[Joey Badass]

Why would y' all do that?

[Lex P]

Oh, it was so embarrassing. I was like, my bad.

[Joey Badass]

It was like, oh, y' all gonna play the Pedestal?

[Lex P]

Yes. They was like, not like, we ain't.

[Joey Badass]

Got more music than that.

[Lex P]

Oh, my God. They was not.

[Dre]

They was not with us.

[Joey Badass]

So. So. So did they tell y' all what song y' all should have played?

[Lex P]

So usually we go to the city and we'll, like, ask around, but, like, we were just like, oh, this is easy.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, y' all lost them on that.

[Dre]

They was like, that's so 1997.

[Lex P]

But Houston loves when we play old school. They do, like, when we go to Houston and we do the old school songs, like, it be be so lit.

[Dre]

But I guess maybe it's cuz we from there, though.

[Lex P]

Yeah. I don't know, but they would. They didn't like it. Okay.

[Dre]

I'M going do one more.

[Joey Badass]

One more.

[Lex P]

Okay, last one, last one.

[Dre]

What does she do after she backs it up then? Stop.

[Joey Badass]

Oh, oh. Just do it.

[Lex P]

No, that's.

[Joey Badass]

Am I. I'm tripping.

[Lex P]

No, friend, you was so close.

[Joey Badass]

You was.

[Lex P]

You was close.

[Dre]

I thought you was about to killy.

[Lex P]

After you back it up. This. Stop. What?

[Joey Badass]

Oh, drop. Drop. Right then.

[Dre]

What? What?

[Lex P]

What?

[Dre]

Drop it like inside.

[Joey Badass]

Damn. Well, what he is.

[Lex P]

Wait, what song was you singing? Was that Kaya?

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, I think I was singing the Kaia.

[Lex P]

Hey, My Bag. That's a classic though. Joey. I'm not.

[Joey Badass]

I'm like, I'm like. She do it?

[Lex P]

Yeah. You was close. You was close. Okay, first, before we get into this topic, let me just say I'm having a ball. Joey, we having a good time? So this next topic. Well, we haven't even gotten to the topics yet. The first topic, we're going to talk about the state of the music industry. So Lizzo recently made a video political. I feel like this is the. The second time that we've talked about Lizzo. I love me some Lizzo. Ch.

[Dre]

We just talked about Liz.

[Joey Badass]

Shout out to Liz.

[Lex P]

So Lizzo made a tik Tok video and she was saying that the state of the music industry is so bad for established artists, but it's good for new artists because the algorithm is not on anybody's side. She's like, lady Gaga has dropped albums this year. Drake has dropped albums this year. She's like, I'm a Grammy Award winning artist. My album is about to go diamond. I dropped music. And people are still like, oh, Lizzo dropped music. So how do you feel about the state of the music industry with streaming and how everything is now in 2025?

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, I mean, I think one of the things that she said in there that really resonated was that it's congested. You know what I mean? These airwaves or these streaming waves is congested. There's so much music coming out every day. It's like, it's almost hard to keep up with. Like this summer alone, a lot of projects came out.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

And it's like, you know, I can't lie. Like, I don't think I've. I definitely didn't hear everything that I actually wanted to hear too. You know what I'm saying? It's just that it's been so overloaded and, you know, life be lifein'.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I'm saying?

[Lex P]

Right.

[Joey Badass]

Hold on, I need a minute. I feel like back in the day, at least it felt more like every project and artist had their own isolated moment to kind of shine and put out a project. Even when we had things like, I remember Kanye and 50 dropping the same day, it was like, even that it was just about them too.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I mean? And it's like everybody was still tuned in, but I think with social media and, you know, streaming and everything, like, the world is just moving so fast. It is so fast, and we. We are consuming so much more content, and that is shortening our attention spans. One, and then two. It's just like, it makes it easy to miss shit. Cause there's always, like, every time you reload that joint, it's like a slot machine. It's just new things. You know what I'm saying? New things for your brain to take in, new information for you to see. So, yeah, you might miss some shit. And then, you know, when you got artists, certain artists, like, you know, I'mma throw myself under the bus here. But it's like, you know, certain artists who don't promote they shit.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

Cause, you know, I put my shit out, I promoted a couple times. I'm like, right. I'm cool. You know what I'm saying? But, like, when you don't have artists proactively promoting this in this time, it's easy to get lost. You know what I mean?

[Dre]

Do you feel like the loss of radio has, like, impacted how artists can reach bigger audiences? Because at one point, like, that's what we would listen to. Like, we would go to radio to find out when somebody was coming out with a new project or to hear a new single. These days, people don't listen to radio anymore.

[Lex P]

We have to go to the radio. I'm showing my age with the cassette tape. And we would stuff the paper.

[Dre]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

So to hear it again before the album dropped, we would have to record it.

[Dre]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

Pouring over old shit, you know, like, you had to listen to radio.

[Dre]

Yeah. So do you feel like that has it?

[Lex P]

Yes. I used to stuff the little paper so you can record over it. That's how I had. Now I had made my own mixtapes.

[Dre]

Not my mixtapes. Dot com.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah. You know, I think that. I think there's pros and cons to it. Right. Because I do think that artists nowadays are able to gain notoriety more faster now. Whereas before you had limited channels. Like, if you wasn't on the radio, then it's like you just probably wasn't known. But now that's not the case. It's like you got artists who's not on the radio, like, ever. And they're like big deals, you know what I'm saying? Packing out arenas and like that. You know what I'm saying? The radio don't show no love. So, you know, I think. I think. I think it kind of go both ways. Me personally, like, I grew up on that era, so I do enjoy hearing music on the radio. But I think that's another thing too, with modern radio is it leans so heavy on, like, you know, top 40. Yeah, like that. And it's not really breaking. Radio's not breaking artists anymore. Radio is catching up.

[Lex P]

I used to work in the. The strip club and like, if you were a DJ and you broke a record and it was like, it ended up being a hot song, you had bragging rights.

[Dre]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

Now they don't want to do that.

[Joey Badass]

Like, you got to be hot already.

[Lex P]

Yeah, it's like they used to, like, it used to be a thing. Like, if I am the dj, I played this record first. So y' all know that I have an ear now. It's like, oh, I'm not playing that. Nobody know it yet. Like, nobody's a risk taker anymore.

[Joey Badass]

Nobody's a risk.

[Lex P]

Songs are getting shorter. I mean, it used to be, you listen to a song, it's five minutes, everybody getting their verse on. Yeah, that's a fact.

[Dre]

And then it transitions. Like, it would be like damn near, like two different songs on one track. Drake is infamous for doing that.

[Joey Badass]

Like, it'll be. It'll be a pre chorus hook, a post chorus, some verses, intro, outro. I'm telling you, all that, all that.

[Lex P]

And then it was. Was like a remix was a remix. It's a whole different beat. You got a feature, it's a whole different song.

[Dre]

Like say My Name, the original Wliff Jean.

[Lex P]

Now they'll say. They'll just ask somebody on the verse, they'll say, featuring xyz. And this is the remix. You know what I'm saying?

[Joey Badass]

They just added a feature to the song.

[Lex P]

Yeah, yeah. I just feel like the music, the way it's consumed, but I do feel like it's watered down. The quality of music, you know, like they consider a hit is, can I do a TikTok dance to it? If I can't do a TikTok dance, do it.

[Joey Badass]

But even with that, Even with that's crazy because it's like, you know, you have a trend take off on TikTok, but then people only know the 15 seconds.

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[Joey Badass]

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[Lex P]

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[Joey Badass]

Like, I remember when that happened with Steve Lacey, with the. With the some. What was it?

[Lex P]

I can't remember the song. I know what you're talking about.

[Joey Badass]

The bad habit. Is it bad?

[Lex P]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joey Badass]

And then, like, it was a clip that came out, and after the. The. With the. With the. What was it?

[Lex P]

I can't remember the song. I know what you're talking about.

[Joey Badass]

The bad habit. Is it bad?

[Lex P]

Yeah, yeah.

[Joey Badass]

And then, like, it was a clip that came out, and after the TikTok clip was done, nobody knew the word. I'm like, yeah, so you know this shit.

[Lex P]

You at the concert, everybody's like, I bite myself. It's a bad.

[Dre]

And then it's quiet.

[Joey Badass]

It's like, I actually never heard this song.

[Lex P]

Yes.

[Dre]

You ain't never listened to it all the way through.

[Lex P]

That's really how it is. And then there's, like, a trend now of people talking about they'll name the songs that are the most disappointing songs that they've heard, because it'll be like, oh, I like the TikTok clip. But then I went and listened to the song, and I actually don't like the song. So that's why I say I think artists should get back to just make the music. If it ends up being a TikTok hit, cool. But y' all are making these TikTok hits, and it doesn't translate to real life.

[Joey Badass]

Y' all almost feel like it's like a genre for that.

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[Joey Badass]

You know what I mean? It's funny. I was on TikTok last night, and I don't. I don't go on TikTok, like, at all. But, like, I was watching this one video on YouTube and it brought me to a TikTok clip, and I was just kind of like, just navigate in the world or whatever. I'm like, yo, this is. You know, what's so crazy is, like, with the algorithms now, we live in completely different worlds.

[Lex P]

Oh, 1000.

[Joey Badass]

Based upon your algorithm or based upon. Right, Based upon what you're interested, but. But also based upon what social media platform you engage with the most. Because I don't be on Tick Tock at all.

[Lex P]

Right?

[Joey Badass]

So, like, me navigating yesterday, I'm like, oh, this. This is like, this Is like, yo, this is a lot of going on, you know what I mean? That I just had no idea about, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm checking out the songs that people dancing to and all I'm like, oh, this. These are. These are trending. Like, I wouldn't have known, you know?

[Dre]

So you always say these, Lex. You always. Because people always are saying, like, these days, it's such a lack of good music coming out. And Lex always says that it's not a lack of good music. You just gotta look for it. You gotta find it. Because it's a lot of people that are putting out good music these days. But how do y' all feel? Like artists can really try to reach their fan base when all of these mediums that we were just talking about, that used to be, like, the things to do in the past to get your music out there, people aren't paying attention to that. So, like, what do y' all think people could do to combat that to get noticed?

[Joey Badass]

I think all people could do at this point, like artists, is just to consistently put out quality music and, you know, just kind of picking up on, like, that compounding idea, you know what I'm saying? Like, after a while, it'll pick up, you know what I mean? Because, you know, there is a real demand for good quality music, you know what I'm saying? So. But in this world, if you not outside, you, like, not alive.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I'm saying? So you got to stay consistent because you got to stay at the front of people's minds and stuff like that. And, you know, I'm speaking on it, and it's really me also speaking to myself in a way as well, because this is the dialogue I have with myself sometimes, you know? Cause really, I'm a chill guy.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Dre]

Like, I don't even be on social media, yo.

[Joey Badass]

Literally, like, I don't even have Instagram on my phone right now. You know what I'm saying? Ask. I go, like, weeks without engaging with social media because I just come to the point where I feel like. I think like, maybe in 10, 15 years, we gonna be really talking about, like, illnesses that come from our incredible heightened engagement with social media. You know what I'm saying? So. And for me, it's like, yo, like, you know, anytime I get into it, like, I find myself sitting there and I'm like, yo, fucking all this time passed, I'm sitting there, my brain, I feel all drained. I feel slow. And you know what? I'm saying things like, that. So I really just separate myself from it for that reason. I forgot where I was going with that. But see, that's. That social media.

[Dre]

No, it's okay. Because I feel like we do. Me and Lex are the same. Like, we used to be really heavy on Twitter, and I feel like that had a lot to do with, like, the growth of the show because we would always post on Twitter. We would go viral and stuff all the time, people. And then now, as the show has become so big and it's becoming bigger and bigger, being on Twitter is just not good for my mental health.

[Joey Badass]

It's draining.

[Dre]

It is. People are so sick on there. It doesn't matter what we say. We could say the smallest thing and it will go viral and people will attack us and make.

[Joey Badass]

And being people with platforms and voices. Like, I think the people without. I think that they. Sometimes it's hard for them to understand that we're not always trying to go viral, right? We just sharing an idea or like, you know, we just speaking openly. And you know what I'm saying? The shit pick up and it's like, we don't always want to deal with that, right? You got all these people, like, you know, they. They take a little small clip. They. They throw the context out the window. And now you got all these people coming at you over like an increment of something that you said over, like a larger topic. You know what I mean? So it's like, yeah, you know, you got to protect your peace out here. You got to protect your mental health. And, you know, it's just a shame because I pray that we could somehow in this generation find a balance on, you know. Cause I feel like a lot of us, we are married to this idea of like, I gotta feed the machine, I gotta feed the machine. I gotta post. I gotta post. If I don't post, then I gotta. But then it's like that mentality, really, it just reels you in. And most of the time that you spending on a social media platform is not even feeding the machine, right? It's like, you know, are you using these platforms or are you utilizing it?

[Lex P]

Right?

[Joey Badass]

It's like we using it like. Like it's a drug. Like it's a substance abuse, you know what I'm saying? And we just end up sitting there, you know, we put one tweet up, but then we'll sit there like, the tweet took us two minutes. But then we'll spend it for hours, an hour, engaging and get.

[Dre]

Yeah, I agree. That's why when you say you deleted, you don't have the Instagram app on your phone. I'm like that with Twitter. Like, I don't have Twitter, the app on my phone right now. Like, I get on there every once in a while to like promote stuff for poor minds. But I don't really be on there like that because it just takes so much of your time. And then you find yourself engaging with people and it's like, why am I even responding? You would never talk to why am I even responding?

[Joey Badass]

And entertaining, even if you don't engage, is like, it affects you energetically, you know what I'm saying? But, you know, Dave Chappelle said the best Twitter is not a real place.

[Dre]

He did say that.

[Lex P]

It's not a real place 20 years ago.

[Dre]

He was ahead of his time.

[Lex P]

But I, I, I do wanna touch on what you were saying as far as how can artists get their music out there if they're a new artist or they're like we said, times are changing. You know, the best way to touch the people and let them know about your music is platforms like this.

[Joey Badass]

That's a fact.

[Lex P]

People are not watching TV anymore. People do not have cable.

[Joey Badass]

True.

[Lex P]

People are watching podcasts.

[Dre]

You better Shameless plug.

[Lex P]

I'm telling you know how many times I have talked about an artist that nobody knew about and I got got hundreds, if not thousands messages like, oh my God, you put me on to them. Or people that shouted me. I like, man, Lex, I've seen a jump in my stream and just because you talked about it, everything, I mean, it's been a lot of stuff, but this is what people watch now.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, this is the new word of mouth.

[Lex P]

It is. And I feel like the best way you can touch your audience, like you said, is be authentic in your music is going to connect to the right person. You know what I'm saying? You know how many times that, that we've watched the Joe Budden podcast because he's into music and he's like, man, I like that he has a million plus listeners a week.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

So now your song that was getting a thousand streams and landed on Joe Budden's ears and he's talking about it on his show. This is the most authentic platforms that people use as podcasting. So I feel like when y' all come on these platforms and you really touching the people, because this is going directly to them facts. This ain't no, oh, I gotta pay 20. I gotta sign up for this.

[Joey Badass]

Right, right, right.

[Lex P]

I gotta have a fee. I gotta, they can pull this up on their phone and they just in the car, listening, watching. So I think it's gotten so easy to get things directly to people that they're missing the point because they feel like, oh, I gotta. If I don't get on the Breakfast Club, right? And no, shade, yeah, you gotta do the Breakfast Club, but if you can't get to the Breakfast Club, y' all better hit these podcasts.

[Joey Badass]

You know, even with that, right? Like. Like these are algorithms. Like, y' all have created a platform that has created a algorithm.

[Lex P]

Yep.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I mean? And anybody who y' all have on it gets to infiltrate that algorithm. You know what I'm saying? To. To y', all, to y' all listeners and y' all watchers shout out to poor minds, man.

[Lex P]

Thank you, period.

[Dre]

So, yeah, so now we gonna get into topic number two.

[Lex P]

Oh, Lord.

[Dre]

This is a little messy, but I feel like. But I feel like it's a good topic topic, and I feel like you will have some really good things to say.

[Joey Badass]

Okay?

[Dre]

Why do us. Why do we as a generation care so much about snitching? Or is it even our generation? Like, I feel like snitching. Snitching? Yeah. Like, I just feel like black people in general, like, because I said our generation. But even when I think about, like, older generations, like my uncles and my grandparents, like, it's always been something that's, like, looked down upon in the black community. And I wonder, why do we place that so much emphasis on it or care so much about it? Because at the end of the day, sometimes when people be wrong or they do some shit, some fucked up shit.

[Lex P]

It'S time for you to go to jail. Somebody needs to go to jail.

[Dre]

They need. Some people need to pay for their crime.

[Joey Badass]

I think the reason why it's such a issue, right, is because usually the people who are being labeled as the snitches were participating in the crimes.

[Dre]

Okay?

[Joey Badass]

They were participating in the activity. So it was like you telling on people now because you got caught.

[Dre]

Cause you don't wanna go to your house.

[Joey Badass]

You wanna bring everybody down. You know what I'm saying? Cause you don't wanna face what you did individually. You like, oh, nah, they did it too.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I'm saying? And it wasn't just me. Yeah, right, right. You know, and that's whack. But if you. If you know. But then you got your people out there who are law abiding citizens, it's like, yo, my name is Bennett and I'm not in it.

[Lex P]

Right.

[Joey Badass]

And it's like, no offense. For sure it was him over there.

[Dre]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

And, you know, I don't. I think that's different. I don't think that's. That's snitching. That's just like, listen, nigga, I seen what happened.

[Lex P]

I'm citizen.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah. Right. I had nothing to do with it.

[Dre]

I had nothing to do with it.

[Joey Badass]

But I think the snitching, like, you know, when we. When I think about that, that's what I think about. These are people who were participating.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I'm saying? And if they weren't the ones to get caught, they'd be mad that somebody snitched on them.

[Dre]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I'm saying? So it was like, yo, you know. Yeah. Do you think that's my two cents?

[Dre]

Do you think, though, that us as black people, we should end the. No snitching culture?

[Joey Badass]

You see, I think the way to.

[Lex P]

End it is stay out of trouble.

[Dre]

It's not really.

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[Dre]

No, listen, that's not really.

[Lex P]

If you. No, it is realistic.

[Dre]

It's not, though, friend.

[Joey Badass]

Listen, the only reason I say. Listen, kids do the time, don't do the crime.

[Lex P]

But also.

[Dre]

I agree, but the only reason I say it's not realistic, y', all is because, let's be real. Like, even in 2025, we are in a state where, like, everybody doesn't have the resources, Everybody can't make the kind of money we make and do the things that we do. People still got to feed their families. And so because black people, we aren't afforded the same opportunities as our white counterparts.

[Lex P]

Right.

[Dre]

Sometimes I feel like black people be having to go to other extremes to get the money to do what they.

[Lex P]

Got to do because it's unfair. I'm speaking on the men who are in the industry, and they are. But you're still involved in the street.

[Dre]

Are you talking about industry people?

[Lex P]

Yes. Once you have made that, you have crossed that line and you've made it out, I agree. Your ass out. Okay. If you have made it out the streets and you do no longer have to do that. Stay your ass.

[Joey Badass]

It's like, listen, once you made more money and you know something that's legit than you did in the streets, it's time to pack it up.

[Lex P]

It's time to pack it up.

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[Joey Badass]

Time to pack it up.

[Lex P]

Don't get married.

[Joey Badass]

The one foot in, one foot out shit is like, yo, we gotta stop that.

[Dre]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

I mean, it's like, once you, you know, once you make it to a certain point of success, you make a million dollars. It's like, yo, why are we still, you know, contributing to street life?

[Lex P]

Why are we still contributing?

[Joey Badass]

But you know what? You know what? My only caveat to that is it be thick for some people.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I'm saying? It's deep. It's deep for some people. So I definitely want to be empathetic to those people in the way of, like, it's real ties, you know what I'm saying? And it's real, like, obligations. It's real pressures. It's real guilt sometimes even because, you know, I'm somebody who dealt with survivor's guilt a lot. And, you know, sometimes, like, individual success is not enough, but your way of finding that success of being legit is not everybody else's way. Everybody can't go. Yeah, but your heart still wants your peoples who struggling from the same place that you came from to make it out. So you try to make ways for them. And sometimes the only way to make ways for them is to fund, you know, the shit that they got going on that's not legit. You know what I'm saying? So I think that's where a lot of people, us as black people, we get caught up in because of the reason that you said. Because we not as you, don't have the same opportunities. Yeah, we ain't got the same opportunities, you know what I'm saying, as our white counterparts. So it be hard trying to lift everybody up. But on that note, what I do want to say to my community of black people, to people who trying to get out the streets, invest. Anybody could invest today. And you ain't got to have $1,000. You could start with a hundred dollars. I think that's the thing, right? Like, they don't teach us this. So let me just say, Let me tell you, you can start with a hundred dollars. Literally, you can start with $50. Open yourself a Robin Hood, a Moomoo, a Public Acorn. Acorn. A Wee Bull. You know what I'm saying? It's so many different platforms that we could utilize today from our phones. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, yo, listen, I'm. I'm. I'm up in life. But you know what I do every morning at. At 9:30, I'm on CNBC.

[Lex P]

I know that's right.

[Dre]

Me too. I got Yahoo Finance on my phone.

[Guest]

Come on.

[Dre]

I got into trading recently, like, within the past four or five months. Like, it has Changed my life a lot. Like, and it's not as hard as people think.

[Joey Badass]

It's not like you just have to study though. It's actually so easy that like, for me, I'm almost like, like, like, like, like I'm laughing like, yo, I should.

[Lex P]

Have been doing this.

[Joey Badass]

Not only should I have been did this, but I'm laughing because I'm like, yo, they have kept this shit away from us. Like, this shit is that easy. Like, yo, this is. This has been like my new thing. Like, I've been talking about it recently. If you've been following me, then you definitely have been hearing me say this lately. I be on the phone. Like this morning I was on the phone with my cousin and he's starting up his wee bowl and all that, and I'm walking him. Do the tricks of the trade. Yo, this is how you options trade.

[Dre]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I'm saying? Look at my play. Yeah, you do this, you do a 25 call. Boom, boom, boom. Like, you know, I'm saying, look, bro, as soon as you put the money in. But you know, of course you got to do the research. Yeah.

[Dre]

You gotta study.

[Joey Badass]

And that's how they get us, man. Because they say it like when you, when you want to hide something from black people, you put it in the book.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I'm saying? And we gotta stop falling for that dumb. Yeah, stop falling for it. You know what I'm saying? You gotta learn the streets too.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

You got to learn how to sell drugs too.

[Lex P]

Right.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I'm saying? So once you put your time into something else that could keep you out of trouble, you could really do for the comfort of your own home. Right.

[Dre]

I'm telling you. And your money could be gaining interest. Like, like you said, like. Well, we were just talking about acorns. Like it's better to have your money in acorns than just sitting in the savings account. Or like you have had a high yield savings account. You need to be putting your money into something where it's building interest and not just sitting there. But like you said, these are things that we weren't taught coming up. So we don't know. So it's on us. I feel like that's, you know, the beauty of us all having the platforms that we have because we can tell other people in the younger generations that don't know about you.

[Lex P]

And I'm glad that you said that too, because when I first started investing.

[Dre]

I didn't have nothing, cuz we didn't Know, at one point, but I was.

[Lex P]

Just putting so little in there.

[Joey Badass]

You got to do just to learn.

[Lex P]

Every time I get a chair, I'll be putting them.

[Joey Badass]

Yo, listen, listen. Soon as I get that check, I'm like, o. I can't wait to put this in.

[Lex P]

No, I'm telling you.

[Dre]

And options trading will really change your life.

[Joey Badass]

It will change your life.

[Dre]

Discouraging, I think, for people starting off, because you can lose a lot of money, too.

[Joey Badass]

You can, but that's why you got to learn as much. And then, you know, there's even platforms, I think, what, Like Forex, where you could do, like, full accounts, you know what I'm saying? Where it's not even a real account, but you can play with the market as if you was putting real money into it and see how you.

[Dre]

How you has that, too.

[Joey Badass]

Oh, oh, it does.

[Dre]

Yeah. They have, like, paper trading. Like, they'll give you. You a million dollars paper of, like, paper, obviously. But you can, like, play with it and see if you were using your real money in the market. This is how it will move if you put it into this play or that play.

[Joey Badass]

Absolutely. You know, I think a lot of us, too, we think that, like, you know. Cause, you know, I'm throwing my cousin on the bus. I ain't gonna say his name, but, you know, one of my cousins, he swear, like, yeah, like, you know, I just gotta get some bread first. I'm like, bro, you got the bread already. Just take $100 and put it. Bro. My first options play that taught me how to trade options was with $400.

[Dre]

That's crazy.

[Joey Badass]

And I got 500% off of that 2500. All I could think about was like, damn, I should have put four more than that.

[Lex P]

I should have put 400.

[Joey Badass]

I'm telling you, low on that. You know what I mean? It's all the gaming percentages.

[Dre]

I agree. I agree. And even with, like, crypto, too. Like, I think black people be, like, shying away from crypto a lot. But, like, even with bitcoin, bitcoin is projected to end up being worth a million dollars in some more years. So it's like, even though you might be. Might not be able to afford one bitcoin right now, because I think it's like, 117,200, the people that bought all.

[Lex P]

That bitcoin back in the day.

[Dre]

But you could buy percentages. Like, if you only could put in $20 every week, or you can only put in $50 every week, you got to think about. About how much that's gonna be worth as it continues to grow and gains interest and becomes bigger. Like, you don't.

[Lex P]

You gotta have patience.

[Dre]

You gotta have patience, too.

[Joey Badass]

That's what it be.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

Because we. So we want that fast right now. That casino monster. You know what I'm saying? It's like we want it. We want it right now.

[Lex P]

I always be thinking about what I want my life to look like. Like when I'm in 50 and 60. Like, I don't want to be podcasting.

[Dre]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

I want to be chilling.

[Joey Badass]

Oh, but. But if you are podcasting, it's because you want to, right?

[Lex P]

Because I have to. It's a big difference.

[Dre]

It is. It is.

[Lex P]

Y' all look at some options. Learn how to make your money, how to trade.

[Joey Badass]

And yo, listen, learn that now because I promise you they gonna start changing the rules on us, man.

[Lex P]

You know it.

[Joey Badass]

They're gonna start changing the rules.

[Lex P]

There's too many.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah.

[Dre]

Every time.

[Lex P]

Nice to meet you.

[Joey Badass]

Better get into that.

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[Joey Badass]

And hi, I'm Kal Penn, and we're.

[Lex P]

The hosts of Irsay the Audible and.

[Joey Badass]

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[Ed Helms]

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[Lex P]

Here.

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[Lex P]

When I'm in 50 and 60, like.

[Dre]

I don't want to be podcasting. Yeah.

[Lex P]

I want to be chilling.

[Joey Badass]

Oh, but. But if you are podcasting, it's because you want to, right?

[Lex P]

Because I have to. It's a big difference.

[Dre]

It is. It is.

[Lex P]

Y' all look at some options. Learn how to make your money.

[Joey Badass]

Learn how to trade. And, yo, listen. Learn that now because I promise you, they gonna start changing the rules on us, man.

[Lex P]

You know it.

[Joey Badass]

They're gonna start changing the rules.

[Lex P]

There's too many.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah.

[Dre]

Every time.

[Lex P]

Like, switch it on.

[Joey Badass]

You better get into that now.

[Lex P]

Right. Like, literally today. All right, now. Oh, go ahead.

[Dre]

Well, I do want to talk about your Impact Mid mentorship program.

[Joey Badass]

Can you talk about that a little bit? Oh, yeah. So Impact Mentorship is a program, a mentorship program that I started. What was that? Back in 2023. And, you know, I started it because I wanted to create some more opportunities for, you know, men of color to, you know, pretty much what we talking about. Like, I think a lot of the times, there's a lot of us in our community who. Who have these aspirations, but they don't know where to start. So I created this program where people are able to sign up for the chance to have a mentor from their respective field or industry in the world of arts. So we got, you know, we got sports. We got like. We got like, you know, I had Jaylen Brown my first year, Caris Lavert. We had culinary arts. I had Ghetto Gastro Chef Kwame Onuwachi. We got media personalities like 19 Keys. We got artists, myself, Denzel Curry, Jid Cordae. We have actors like Malcolm Mays. We had directors like Sasha Pan. You know, I mean, and what people were able to do, what young men was able to do. Because I've been a part of a mentorship program for women of color for the last five years.

[Lex P]

Oh, wow.

[Joey Badass]

And one of the. Actually, that was the catalyst to why I started the men version to what I've been a part of was because one year I was promoting and I was coming back as a mentor to women of color on this platform called Unlock Her Potential, founded by my mentor, actually, Sophia Chang. And a lot of people was in the comments like, yo, we need something like this for men. So I was like, you know what? They. Right.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

And I created it. Impact Mentorship. So go to impactmentorship.org and yeah. You know, for the chance to get some professional mentorship, you know, and could.

[Dre]

You speak to that a little bit more? Just the importance of, like, having mentorship, man.

[Joey Badass]

You know, it's important. Like, I think one of the most critical aspects of mentorship is giving people confidence.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I'm saying? Giving people. Because, you know, like I said, some people we have most. A lot of us, we have those aspirations, but it's kind of lies dormant.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

Because the way the world that we are in leads us to believe that our chances are so slim.

[Lex P]

Like, we're not supposed to be in these spaces.

[Joey Badass]

And sometimes all you gotta do is humanize your goals. So it was like you talking to somebody who's in the respective field that you might want to be in and them talking to you in a way where it's like, yeah, I was right where you was at. That give you a different kind of faith and confidence. Like, oh, shit. Like, you know. Cause me, I've always been a kid where all I had to do was see somebody do something.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

Like, if I see it on tv, cool. But if I saw it with my own eyes, I'm like, okay, I can emulate that. I could do it. You know what I'm saying? So I try to just spread that energy as well. And then you Know, it's just important to me, like, if we make it this far, we gain the success, and we don't, like, leave doors open behind us. It's like, what is it for? You know what I'm saying? Like, we gotta be way more collective mindset driven than individual.

[Lex P]

And I think that's important because I always say that, like, I wish that I would have had, like, Alexp and Andrea to look at, like, when I was in college and be like, you know what? This is another lane and I can do it this way. So I think it's important that we open these things, doors and let people know. Sharing our platforms with other black women creators, other black creators, just period in general, so. That's a good point.

[Dre]

It is.

[Lex P]

So now it's time to get into the.

[Joey Badass]

Ow.

[Lex P]

The bow. About. About.

[Dre]

About what?

[Joey Badass]

The bed.

[Lex P]

The bed, the bed, the bed, the bed. Like, like, the bed, the bed, the bed. And y' all know it is sponsored by her fantasy box.

[Dre]

Yes, I saw that.

[Joey Badass]

That's your products.

[Lex P]

No, it's not our product.

[Dre]

So sponsored by the company. But they have really, really good feminine wellness products. Like, they have vaginal washes, body oils. Yes.

[Lex P]

But I feel like everywhere take some healthy boxes. Men can use them, too.

[Dre]

Exactly. But men can take them, too.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Dre]

Which is something that I think a lot of men.

[Joey Badass]

I could take healthy box probiotics, because.

[Dre]

Your physical balance, too.

[Joey Badass]

Nah, I agree. But I, you know, just it being called healthy box probiotics, out of box.

[Lex P]

I don't need that. I feel like the male, like, men could definitely use the everywhere wipes. Like, you know, sometimes you leave. Yeah. You got a little musty, do a little white.

[Joey Badass]

That's critical.

[Lex P]

Yeah. So they have body oils, body washes, all that stuff.

[Dre]

They have chlorophyll. They have the chlorophyll pills, which I think men could take.

[Joey Badass]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

It is for the skin.

[Dre]

Exactly. Odors, everything.

[Lex P]

So shout out to her fantasy box. We appreciate y'. All. Cause I've been running through these products.

[Joey Badass]

What about his fantasy package?

[Dre]

Okay, now I see you giving him a new idea.

[Lex P]

His fantasy package.

[Joey Badass]

I need 2%.

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[Dre]

Joey say he need his money.

[Lex P]

He said that's his investment. Okay. Okay. All right, what we got? Draya talking about living your raps. You know, a lot of times.

[Joey Badass]

Oh, shit.

[Lex P]

You know. You know what I said?

[Dre]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

Take a sip of that mocktail. A lot of times, you know this ain't strong.

[Joey Badass]

Hold on.

[Lex P]

A lot of times, you know. You know, you a rapper. You know how Y' all get in the raps. You know, you talk about what you gonna do to a lady and these and that and all that good stuff. Do you really live your raps or do sometimes you feel like. I like to just add a little, you know, razzle dazzle. Razzle, Razzle dazzle.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah. Nah, I live my rap.

[Lex P]

You live your raps. I think that's a good thing. Because honestly, a lot of times though, I think this comes with rap in general. Right. Rappers will rap about a lifestyle that they've never lived. So it has people trying to live up to a expectation that you haven't even met yourself. And that's outside of the bedroom as well. You talking about I'm pulling up in the G wagon. You don't even got a G wagon. You talk about you done been had her bent over, face down, ass up all night. You don't even got a bit.

[Joey Badass]

You don't even like doing it like that. You don't even like just sound good.

[Dre]

But it do sound good. And I feel like that's what matters. That's what sell the music.

[Lex P]

It sound good, it just provides.

[Dre]

Cause it's only a few, it's a handful of women that's gonna know whether or not you really living your race.

[Lex P]

That is true.

[Joey Badass]

That is true.

[Lex P]

And they not gonna put you on. I mean, sometimes the girls be putting people every to their friend group, they.

[Dre]

Hear the song, they go that lying.

[Lex P]

So you ain't never lied in none of your raps? Not one time?

[Joey Badass]

Put one up. What you. It's one you think I, I lied.

[Lex P]

In or let me see. Cuz, you know, I'mma. I'm. I'mma find something that you lied in.

[Joey Badass]

Cuz I.

[Lex P]

Well, not that you lied in, but I will say this. I do feel like sometimes though, I'm a. I'm a vulgar person myself, just in general. Like that's my personality. I make vulgar jokes. They're funny. I don't know, offending people and making people, people feel like, oh my God, that just is funny. Yeah, but sometimes I like dark. I think for me I have dark humor. But sometimes I do be saying that I ain't never done. It's just for the shock value just to see the look on people face.

[Dre]

Do y' all think that music is too sex centered now? Cuz I don't know. For me, I don't really feel like it is. I feel like music has like rap music specifically has always been sex centered.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, I mean, you know, it also depends on where you Putting your ears at. You know what I'm saying? Like, who you giving your ears to type of shit. Like, I think if you turn on the radio, just regular. Yeah. It's a lot of sex driven shit on there. But I like sex music that's like the 90s where it was like, metaphors.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I mean? I'm trying to think of a good one.

[Lex P]

I always talk about a meta. This wasn't a 90s song, but a meta. A good metaphor song is usher.com.

[Dre]

Usher.Com.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah. I don't think I know.

[Lex P]

I love the way you dirty type. You remember that song? No. And he was. He was referencing it like he was on a computer.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, see, I like that type.

[Lex P]

He was like, creativity, I'll make you dot com.

[Dre]

Oh, okay.

[Joey Badass]

Or even rock the boat.

[Lex P]

Stuff like that.

[Joey Badass]

I was a kid singing that.

[Lex P]

You didn't know what she's swimming.

[Dre]

Like, we know.

[Lex P]

We had no business. Yeah. I do think that we need to bring back creative ways of talking about that.

[Ad]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

Put her on the counter. And I put. Oh, y' all remember.

[Joey Badass]

It's kids out here.

[Dre]

But we did still have very raunchy ass.

[Joey Badass]

No, we did. We did. But you know what?

[Dre]

Remember like that by Webby?

[Joey Badass]

No, I don't remember that, But I do remember Pretty Ricky.

[Lex P]

Oh, yeah.

[Dre]

Oh, yeah. Pretty Ricky used to be cutting us.

[Joey Badass]

And you know what's so funny is, like, who?

[Lex P]

Who?

[Joey Badass]

I'm not about to be on the hotline at 5 in the morning.

[Lex P]

Nah, I'm in the phone. Why you not here?

[Joey Badass]

We sleep like we sleep already. It happened already.

[Lex P]

I'll probably be on the phone I made at five in the morning.

[Joey Badass]

That was a Y N song.

[Dre]

It was. But we was also yns.

[Joey Badass]

We was. We was. We was.

[Lex P]

So as y' all know, period, the item of the week is lyrically correct, y'.

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[Dre]

Yes. All right, so now it's time to get into the box.

[Joey Badass]

I thought we was already.

[Lex P]

We in the bop now. It's the bop of the week.

[Dre]

We gotta Ask you what you've been listening to.

[Joey Badass]

That's a good question.

[Dre]

Old school, new.

[Lex P]

It don't matter.

[Dre]

Your school.

[Joey Badass]

Oh, I mean, because it's the bop of the week. I've been listening to the new J Electronica.

[Lex P]

Okay, okay. I fuck with Jay. I didn't know he had something new out. See? See my algorithm?

[Joey Badass]

There you go. Look at me up. He did just drop it out the blue.

[Lex P]

Okay.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I mean?

[Lex P]

You know what I feel like, though? I don't like the dropping out the blue. Let's bring back rollouts. Beyonce did that in the middle of the night and everybody's been trying to do. And I'm not saying that Jay. I'm not talking about him. I'm just saying we need to bring back rollouts. It needs to be a big deal. You need to be doing a whole run. It needs to be a thing.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, I agree with you. And you know, I mean, I definitely understand you're thinking behind it, but I think as a creative, as an artist, I think it could get exhausting sometimes. Sometimes you just want to share the art.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I'm saying? Like, you don't want to do the big parade and it's like, yo, I made this shit and it's just like, yo, I just want to put it out. Like, I don't want to do the whole shebang. Like, I just want to share. I just want the music to speak right.

[Lex P]

And I agree with you on that. But also, I think. I think that's why y' all not supposed to be dropping music every three months.

[Joey Badass]

No, that's true.

[Lex P]

Cause you're supposed to do a rollout. You supposed to drop the album, wait a little while, go on tour, and then we not supposed to see you for two, three years.

[Joey Badass]

That's a fact.

[Lex P]

You know what I'm saying? So I think that's why I think rollouts are important, because you're not supposed to be doing them all the time so you can build up the energy. You can record this beautiful piece of work. You can go on like a two week, three week little run and promote it and do whatever you want to do after that. But we need to bring back rollout.

[Joey Badass]

You know, I agree with you. I appreciate a great rollout. Yes, I do appreciate it.

[Lex P]

I like it.

[Joey Badass]

I also do understand the artist who's just like, yo, here's my problem.

[Lex P]

Yeah, take what you can get.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lex P]

I love it.

[Joey Badass]

Music speak.

[Lex P]

Yeah, yeah, I feel you.

[Joey Badass]

It ain't dressed up. You know what I'm saying.

[Lex P]

Right. But the music is there.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

You know, facts. I feel you on that one.

[Joey Badass]

Straight to the bloodstream. We ain't gotta go in New Orleans.

[Dre]

To the point that we ain't gonna.

[Lex P]

New Orleans. We not drinking a drink. We taking a shot down.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, yeah. Right, right, right.

[Lex P]

Let's get to it. Okay. I feel you on that.

[Dre]

Okay, so what you been listening to?

[Lex P]

L. Oh, my gosh. Y'. All my favorite R B duo, Junetober, released a album, it's called Got and Y' all for the R B girlies. Start to finish. It's fire. And the good thing is, if you have attention span problems, it's only 11 songs. It's 36 minutes.

[Joey Badass]

Oh, yeah, that's.

[Lex P]

You can listen to it on your way to work. And when I tell you it's no skips. It's a man and woman duo. He plays the piano. And she be singing. I mean, she be singing. It's so good. So y' all probably saw that song that went viral a few years ago. Lay your head on my pillow. You remember that song? So, yeah, that went viral a few years ago. But anyways, yeah, they dropped the album, and it's really, really good. So, yeah, Junetober got the whole album. That's my bop of the week. Y' all. Make sure y' all go listen to that. Period.

[Joey Badass]

Nice, Junetober.

[Dre]

Why you blinking like that?

[Lex P]

Cuz I love them. I like to see people working together.

[Dre]

A couple.

[Lex P]

A power couple.

[Joey Badass]

They a couple.

[Ad]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

Oh, that's dope.

[Dre]

That is dope.

[Lex P]

I think so.

[Dre]

So I'm a little partial to, like, old school music. I feel like. I mean, I was born in 91, I'm 34. I be listening to, like, a lot of old school music. However, the Y ends been really cutting.

[Lex P]

They've been eating us up.

[Dre]

They've been eating us up. Like these new.

[Lex P]

These Gen Z. Oh, my God, there's.

[Dre]

People, the rappers, they've been cutting up. So, like, YK me. I really like her.

[Lex P]

Take me through that.

[Joey Badass]

Oh, yeah.

[Dre]

She don't know what she doing. This just giving it out. What the hell?

[Guest]

God.

[Lex P]

I love her. I love W me.

[Dre]

So she has a song called Talking About Nothing, and I like it.

[Lex P]

It's really good.

[Dre]

Like, I feel like it's. It's going to get you turned up. It's going to get you where you need to be. I feel like she's really good at having, like, feelgood music that just have you ready to turn up and party. Speaking of the Y do that.

[Lex P]

Speaking of.

[Dre]

They do.

[Lex P]

It's this little boy situation of life. Yeah, it's this little boy. His name is baby Chief.

[Dre]

He looks to it.

[Lex P]

Oh, you know who he is? He looks like he's like six.

[Joey Badass]

He look like Riley from Boomboom.

[Lex P]

Oh, my God. But he be talking about wetting the block up. I said, hold on. But he gets to it. I mean, he can really rap for real. But he looks like a kid. Like, he literally looks like a baby. Like, if you heard the song and then you saw him, you would be like, no way. This is the same person. Really? But I said, she liked it.

[Dre]

Yeah, Auntie like this.

[Lex P]

That's how I be feeling.

[Dre]

So I be like, auntie like this. Yknit, you got you one.

[Joey Badass]

I like Baby Chief.

[Ad]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lex P]

Baby Chief is dope. I found him. Cause I was watching the Casanet stream and he was on there. I said, hold on. That might be up my alley. Cause y' all know I like to listen to a little rap every now and then.

[Dre]

Me too.

[Lex P]

But I have no, like, in between. So it's like, if I'm listening to rap music, I'm listening to the worst. You'd have never heard. Like, I'm not, like, gonna ease you in there. Like, I'm playing the worst. It's gonna make it clutch your pearls.

[Dre]

No, Joey. So Licks had, like, a moment where she was, like, obsessed with Chicago Drill rap.

[Lex P]

Oh, yeah.

[Dre]

And we were, like, on this binge, and she would just send me all of these videos, and we would be watching documentaries and listening to all, like, the hood ass Chicago music. We know about every Drill rapper in Chicago.

[Joey Badass]

Every single one.

[Lex P]

Yeah, I was in the club, like, but it got too violent.

[Dre]

I said, our age be showing because.

[Lex P]

We be too excited.

[Dre]

They be like, these bitches is old.

[Lex P]

Old as hell. Okay, all right, all right, let's move on. Okay, so do you give good advice? You think you give good advice?

[Joey Badass]

I. I think so.

[Lex P]

Okay, so we are going to start our favorite segment. It's called pour your heart out. If you want to your question answered on the show, make sure you email us at ask poor minds gmail dot com. If you're a Patreon member, make sure you put that in the subject line and you get to skip the line.

[Joey Badass]

Come on, Patreon.

[Lex P]

Okay, so, Dre, you want to read it? Oh, we got two of them today.

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[Lex P]

Okay, go ahead with the first one.

[Dre]

Okay, so the first one. Hi, Lex and Drea. A few weeks ago, y' all answered one of my questions. Thank you for the advice and the encouragement. Now I'm wondering if I'm wrong for distancing myself from my friends who aren't equally yolked. I'm almost 24, have a stable job, car in my own apartment. My friends, including my childhood bestie, often struggle financially and I was usually the one driving or covering until their payday and not always getting paid back. I tried encouraging them and even voiced my frustrations, but nothing changed. I know we're still young, but am I a bad friend for not wanting to deal with this anymore?

[Joey Badass]

You are not a bad friend for not wanting to deal with anymore. You have given them ample opportunity. You have told them multiple times it's not your fault is falling on deaf ears because you're definitely talking, definitely speaking, you know, and all you see, all of that extra money that you dishing out could be going into investing. See, you could be flipping that.

[Dre]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I mean? So what you would be wrong for is not cutting them off sooner. That's what your future self is going to be mad at you for right now. You know what I'm saying?

[Dre]

That's the word.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah.

[Dre]

Because I be feeling that.

[Joey Badass]

But with love though, you know what I'm saying? Respectfully, you know, and sometimes you got to lead by example. Sometimes you got to show people you're not playing because they gonna keep playing with you. It's like, ah, nah, you know, people know our hearts, you know what I'm saying? And they, they take that, you know, kindness for weakness or whatever. So sometimes like one of the healthiest things you could do, especially in your early 20s, is learn how to set.

[Dre]

Those boundaries before it take you to get to your 30s.

[Joey Badass]

Facts.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Dre]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

Because by the time you get to 30, you're gonna be like, yeah, man, I should have been did this in your 30s.

[Dre]

You don't around, I'll be cutting people off easily.

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[Lex P]

It's one wrong move straight a street.

[Dre]

I feel like I always. But to be honest, I've always been kind of street, like even in my 20s, but 30s.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah.

[Dre]

Oh, one wrong move, you're going, you're.

[Joey Badass]

Like, Listen, it's either 30s or having kids that do that to you.

[Dre]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

You know what I'm saying? Like, I gotta expedite this shit with kids.

[Dre]

You gotta think about how that's gone, how that relationship is gonna impact your kids.

[Joey Badass]

And you know what? That's, that's, that's was like one of the biggest realizations when I had my first child. I was like, oh, I only got one kid, so why am I taking care of all of these people? You know what I'm saying? Like, I only got one, one person that I got a real obligation to put it in perspective for me.

[Dre]

That's good advice.

[Lex P]

You ain't wrong, girl. Come on.

[Dre]

You ain't wrong, girl.

[Lex P]

I agree. Hey, Lex and Drea, I love y' all so much. I literally watch every episode. You both motivate me to keep pushing towards greatness, but I need some sisterly advice. I'm 27 and I just graduated with my associates in nursing. I'm working towards my bachelor's and I recently ended a two year relationship.

[Dre]

Relationship.

[Lex P]

We've been broken up for a few months and he's about to have a baby. I'm genuinely happy for him and I'm enjoying my own life. Now. I want to travel by my dream home and get my dream car. My question is, how do I start over with someone new, knowing I've been hurt before and how will I know if he's the right one? I do want marriage and children soon, but I don't want to waste my time. Thank you and please keep motivating women. We need more voices like yours.

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[Joey Badass]

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[Lex P]

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[Lex P]

So I think as long as you're dating with intention and you let people know what your goals are. Like when I tell people, like, yeah, I am looking to get married, I want children, you let people know what you're. I'm not saying we got to get married tomorrow.

[Dre]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

But I'm dating with intention, so if you're just having fun, we can nip this in the bud right now. So I think if you date with intention, you're honest about what you want, but you don't let what somebody else did to you scar you. I think you will still enjoy dating, and you will find your person.

[Dre]

Yeah, I agree. That's what I was gonna say. I just feel like the key is just not letting past relationships hinder you from creating something healthy with somebody new, because the new encounter with this person is going to be different than what you dealt with in the past. And you have to understand that people that you dated in the past, they did what they did. But this new person shouldn't have to like, suffer for what this person did. Unless they did something to make you feel like you can't dress up them. Like, it's different if you dealing with a new person and they start doing stuff and signs you like, this kind of remind me of something that I dealt with in the past. But if you just prejudging them and you don't want to give them a chance and you don't want to give them a chance because of your old relationship, I feel like you really doing yourself a disservice.

[Joey Badass]

I agree. I think, you know, just to chime in on that as well, sometimes we got to be real with ourselves. And what I mean by that is we are what we attract. So, you know, sometimes you got to take.

[Dre]

Accepted.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah. You know, sometimes you got to take a moment and. And really think about what. About you allow this type of energy into your life and you got to get real about that. And you gotta, you know, you gotta make the necessary adjustments so that you could allow different type of energy to come in. You know what I'm saying? Because sometimes we. We are attracting, you know, this. This energy and we don't even realize it because we don't. We. We lack the awareness as to what we're doing or how we're presenting ourselves or how we're showing up or how we're speaking or what circumstances we keep putting ourselves into, what friends we got, you know what I'm saying? And that'll influence the experiences or the people that. The new people that come into our lives based on where we are, like, you know, being the most frequent at. So sometimes you got to look at where your life is now and really understand what it is that you want and to align yourself to that. To that vibration, you know what I mean? And then it's like you will see that you get new energy and you will. You would no longer connect with that older vibration. You know what I'm saying? It's not even attractive to you anymore because you have shifted your mindset.

[Lex P]

Yeah, that's some real.

[Dre]

I read this book like a few months ago. It was called Let Them by Mel Robbins. She's a really good. Yeah, she's a really good author, and the book was really good. And in the book, she was basically just saying, like, a lot of the time people struggle with trying to figure out whether they should move on from a relationship or not or if they should try to make it work. She was like, but sometimes people have to Realize like you constantly end up in situations that you end up in because of yourself, because of what you're attracted to, because of the things that you put up with, the things that you okay with accepting. And this is why you keep ending up in all of these. I mean, she didn't say up, but all of these up situations, you know, just put it in terms that I feel like we can all understand, right? But she was like, this is why you end up in these up situations is because you are allowing this to happen to happen. And you have to accept within yourself, like I'm the reason and you probably need to go to therapy, you probably need to pray more and you need to look within and figure out the things that's wrong with you. That's why you keep attracting these messed up relationships and you can't find your person facts.

[Lex P]

That's true. So, and a point that what he said, it's like when you really grow as a person, you be looking. Cuz hindsight is 20 20, you be looking like, oh my God.

[Dre]

And therapy will open so much to you about yourself. It will really have you looking in that mirror and you gonna be uncomfortable. But it's necessary.

[Joey Badass]

We gotta find ways to, you know, hold ourselves accountable, you know, because we live in a generation where this generation loves to overgeneralize, you know what I'm saying? So it makes every situation the same. Like, you know, I see it too like as a man, like, you know, dudes that I know will go through things and then it'll be like, yo, women, you know what I'm saying? For like, like boom, boom. But it's like, nah bro, it's just you, you can't, you can't. You take one experience or even two experiences and just over generalize that to be the reality of life, you know what I'm saying? Like, and we got a lot of people pushing those narratives nowadays where it's like, yeah, women are like this or men are like this, you know what I'm saying? So yeah, not only do you have to face yourself and make the necessary adjustments, but you also cannot overgeneralize, you know what I'm saying? You got to allow people to be different, you know what I'm saying? You gotta allow for, you gotta give life chances, you know what I'm saying?

[Dre]

Like yeah, and holding yourself accountable is really important. I was reading this other book, it was called the 12 week year and.

[Joey Badass]

Oh yeah, I heard that. Who, who wrote that one?

[Dre]

I can't remember his name right now. I don't have.

[Joey Badass]

Is that Timothy Ferris or something like that?

[Dre]

Let me ask.

[Joey Badass]

The four day work week.

[Dre]

Yeah, let me look it up. It's. But I just finished reading this book called the 12 Week Year. And basically in the book he was just saying that like, nobody can hold you accountable. Like when people be like, oh, I know I need to eat right. Oh, I need to go to the gym. Let me get an accountability partner. That's not a real thing because can't nobody hold you accountable but yourself. We really can't hold other people accountable. You know what I mean? And I feel like that's something that we say to like make ourselves feel better always. If this person is doing it with me, then cool. But in reality it's like it's about you. How, how much do you want to lock.

[Joey Badass]

How much are you committed to it?

[Dre]

Oh, it's Brian P. Morin and Michael. Michael Leing.

[Joey Badass]

Check that one out.

[Dre]

It's a good book. It's a good book. It changed my perspective on like planning especially like with having a business and stuff. I think you would like it.

[Joey Badass]

Right now I'm reading the Mountain is you.

[Dre]

I read that book before.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, I knew he was gonna say that. That's why I said it. I'm like, I know you know this one.

[Dre]

I do, Yeah. I like self help books. I mean, I also like to read for leisure sometimes too, but I like self help.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, me too. Because I like, I like practical knowledge.

[Dre]

Yeah.

[Joey Badass]

I like that I could apply right now. Yeah, that I could use right now. Like I want to get into novels and like that. But I just can't help but pick up something that I could apply to my life.

[Lex P]

Life. Same.

[Dre]

That's how I feel about the 12 week year. Like that's why I'm telling you. I feel like you would really like it. It's, it like puts away the thought of having an annualized year. Like, obviously, you know a year is 52 weeks, but the book shows you. Okay, well if you plan your, your life out to where it's like every 12 weeks is a year, you're more prone to making your goals happen. Because with a 52 week year, one of the main obstacles that we face is the fact that we're like, okay, if January come and we don't knock out our goals, February, March, we like, okay, April, the first quarter is over. We still got the rest of the year to make it happen. But if you're looking at it like your year is only 12 weeks, you gonna make that happen within that 12 weeks.

[Joey Badass]

Word up. So I'm gonna check that out.

[Dre]

Yeah, y' all should.

[Joey Badass]

That sound like something I need, right?

[Dre]

I'm telling you, it's good. It's really good.

[Lex P]

All right, well, let us. Obviously, we know it's not you running your cause. Somebody running your Instagram, Huh?

[Joey Badass]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. When I post, I post.

[Lex P]

Okay. So let's see.

[Joey Badass]

I download the app and I go post, and then I. Get out of there.

[Lex P]

Get out of there. Okay, well, let the people know where they can find you, your album, what you got coming up next, and all that good stuff.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, so you can find me badass on most social platforms. My new project, Lonely at the Top, is out now on all streaming platforms, and I'm going on tour next month, starting October 16th in Boston.

[Lex P]

Okay.

[Joey Badass]

With Absol and Rhapsody. You can get [e-mail] tour. And yeah, stay tuned for more projects in TV and film. I got something really special on the way.

[Dre]

All right, well, we're gonna have to pull up for one of the shows.

[Lex P]

Yes, you definitely come through.

[Joey Badass]

Yeah, I'm actually. I'm coming to Atlanta.

[Lex P]

Okay.

[Dre]

We're gonna be in the Atlanta show.

[Joey Badass]

Slide up.

[Lex P]

Yes. And congratulations on all your endeavors. I just love seeing black men in this space because engagement and your engagement.

[Dre]

And your baby.

[Lex P]

Yes, the baby. And it's just a beautiful thing to see. So we love to give people their flowers and thank you for sitting down with us. This was fun. All right.

[Joey Badass]

It's spelled more like Rich Ms, though.

[Lex P]

Yeah. Don't let need to change the name, of course. Cuz we be drinking. It's P O U R. Okay. And y' all know shop, muse, beautycollection.com. get all your lippies. And as usual, y' all tune in to Love Lex P every Monday morning at 10:00am and we'll see y' all next week. Bye. Yeah, LDJ in the building. Yeah, we got Lex.

[Joey Badass]

That's right, Drea. See the thing about that caught my eye it's the same thing that made.

[Lex P]

Me makes me change my mind it's.

[Joey Badass]

Kind of hard to but girl, I try hold on, need to sit down this may take a while. You see this girl? She kind of looks just like you.

[Lex P]

Just the way you do so she was.

[Joey Badass]

I remember minded when I look.

[Lex P]

At you you remind me of a girl that I once knew See your face whenever I I look at you who believe all of those things she put me through this is why I just can't get with you.

[Joey Badass]

Was the.

[Dre]

One and for me she was on her grief oh, she was sex and everyone but me this is why we could never be.

[Lex P]

You remind me of a girl that I once knew See your face whenever I, I, I look at you. Couldn't believe all of the things she put me through this is why I just can't I know you gotta give your knees Someone there is someone there? Yes. I don't know. I'm just saying that I told you I don't be knowing the word. Wish I knew how to separate the two.

[Joey Badass]

Which camera is it?

[Dre]

This one? Not this one.

[Lex P]

Oh, you almost at help. You remind me of a girl that I see. Come on.

[Dre]

L and you.

[Joey Badass]

This is why I just can't kick it with you, man.

[Lex P]

Shout out to LDJ in the building. We killed that. And this your girl?

[Joey Badass]

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[Lex P]

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[Dre]

I just can't get with you.

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[Dre]

But you gotta have that bag though.

[Joey Badass]

You gotta have that bag.

[Dre]

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[Dre]

This is an I Heart Podcast.