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Santana
I went on a rampage.
Lex P
You gotta go on that rampage.
Drea Nicole
What you mean the rampage?
Lex P
I know what you mean about ramp.
Santana
Look, he took. Which I was. He was couches.
Lex P
The woods.
Santana
The woods? Yeah. Oh, my God.
Lex P
Lord.
Santana
I got woods, girl. No, I was living in North Carolina. It was like a little this way. We was in the woods. It gave me back there. Cause when we got back there, it was a little bit and a palette, girl.
Drea Nicole
I said a pallet in the wood.
Santana
And a little bench. Hey, how many people you bought back here? I still did it, though.
Lex P
What's up, y'all? It's your girl Lex P. And it's.
Drea Nicole
Your girl Drea Nicole.
Lex P
And you are tuned in to another episode of Poor Minds where a drunk.
Drea Nicole
Mind speaks sober thought.
Lex P
We got a guest today.
Drea Nicole
We got a guest today.
Lex P
Y'all have been blowing us up to have this person on for. Honestly, it's been over a year. They gave it been a long.
Drea Nicole
It been a long, long time. A long time, long time, long time.
Lex P
Coming up, we have social media influencer.
Santana
Rapper, the Pen Game don't lie. Thank you.
Drea Nicole
Don't play with him.
Lex P
Don't play with him. You ain't me for free. Why you lying?
Santana
Why you lying? I'm Hawaiian. Oh, baby.
Lex P
I get to it.
Santana
We got Santana. Santana, right.
Lex P
When that song dropped, I was in Miami. I was like, you ain't me for free. Why you lying?
Santana
Why you lying? Hula hoop. I'm Hawaiian.
Drea Nicole
You know what, though? Bars hula hooping on the is crazy.
Santana
I want to get back to that. Like my next project that I'm doing.
Drea Nicole
Uh huh.
Santana
I'm naming it Back to Basics.
Drea Nicole
Okay.
Santana
Because I want to go back to, like, where you started from, to my fun. Like, I feel like now, like when I be rapping, I be popping in and Burke and Chanel and. But I just want to go back to saying, like my girl, who the think of that?
Lex P
I'm saying.
Drea Nicole
But you know what, though? That's why you got the Burke and Chanel.
Lex P
Yeah.
Drea Nicole
Because you always had the mindset.
Lex P
Yeah. But I like the fun raps. Like, I think, like the Birkin and Chanel raps are phenomenal. Cause when you had that Red Bull freestyle.
Santana
Uh huh. Take down. Yes, I did.
Lex P
Your king game is not to be messed with.
Santana
Thank you.
Lex P
But I will say, that first project that you dropped. Oh, what a shisha.
Santana
What a shisha. Yep.
Drea Nicole
Named Keisha. We used to be.
Lex P
We used to run that project.
Santana
I was just literally in the studio and, you know, I'm getting ready for the vibes. So I've been. I'm like, okay, where my lip gave. What is that? Hey, what a shisha.
Drea Nicole
Yeah, period. And you was like, ooh, that sound cute. Bars.
Santana
What is she looking for? A thing? Keisha. And I was gonna say looking for a named Caresha.
Lex P
Oh, that would've been cute.
Santana
That would've been cute.
Drea Nicole
But I was like.
Santana
I was like, let me just say Keisha. Cause Keisha just get a big ghetto. It do.
Lex P
It do.
Santana
That's Keisha. Thick Keisha from. You know. So I was like, let me just say Keisha.
Lex P
So let's start with the music. Like, would you say, like, music is your first love?
Santana
Um, no, I. I didn't even. I never had dreams of, like, being a rapper or anything like that. I always was just witty and had a way with words.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
Growing up, to me, my daddy used to rap. Like when I was a kid, all my homeboys used to rap in high school. I used to think music was a joke. I'm like, if you ain't Drake or Lo ain't or somebody like, boy, sit your. I know so many in the hood still. When I go back home, they be like, you. You the rapper. I grew up with homeboys in high school rapping. They used to be shooting they videos and everything. Baby, they still there.
Drea Nicole
But I feel like you so witty, though.
Lex P
Like, so witty.
Santana
Yeah, that's how it started. Me and my friends had a podcast. Uh huh, girl. This is back, like in the days we was on Facebook. We just used to line up in the studio and go live on Facebook. But we was like, we need a theme song.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
So we ended up going to the studio and making a theme song and we put it on SoundCloud and stuff. And I was living in Tallahassee at the time. Everybody was living for my love verse.
Lex P
Yes.
Santana
So they was like, keep going. So I was like, okay. So I started playing around. I freestyled to Blueface Tatiana.
Lex P
Okay.
Santana
That went viral. So they started playing it in the clubs in Tallahassee. They wanted me to come to Quincy. Hay Vanna. They playing. They want me to perform song in the club. I was like, oh, hold on. Let me sit down and let me sit down and think of some there. So that's when I made Walk Him Like a Dog.
Lex P
Oh, my God.
Santana
I wrote that song in my bathroom. I went to Orlando and recorded it in my homeboy closet. We put it on SoundCloud July 4, 2019. It did a million streams in seven days.
Lex P
Oh, my gosh. The rest was History.
Drea Nicole
So you kind of got the same origin story as, like, Caresha and jt.
Santana
Yeah, right.
Drea Nicole
Cause, like, it was like.
Santana
But see, JT always love. Like, she grew up on me. She always wants. I never did. I was just.
Lex P
I fell into it.
Santana
Yeah, I fell into it. I'm like, okay, well, you know, gay boys got superpowers, so I always know how to read it.
Lex P
That's what I'm saying.
Santana
So it was just being. Talking. Talking slick on a beat. That's how I looked at it.
Lex P
And I'm not kidding. I always said this. Like, when you first started dropping music, I'm like, y'all really not listening to him.
Drea Nicole
Cause he be really saying something so.
Lex P
Witty, and it's so cute, and it was so fun. I'm like, this is what the girl is missing. Cause honestly, you could have a whole. You would be a multi billionaire by ghost writing for these girls. Seriously.
Santana
Have you ever thought about that?
Drea Nicole
Have you ever thought about starting to write for people?
Santana
I never. I always felt like. I just feel like with me being a gay boy in hip hop, I want to accomplish everything that I can for my pen.
Lex P
That's fair.
Santana
Before I get a sauce away.
Drea Nicole
Yeah, I mean, that's fair.
Santana
The only person that could get a little something out of me is probably Caresha.
Lex P
Yeah, Caresha.
Santana
Do you be right for Caresha? I do. I have. Did. I have did like, I did her first song. Sheesha.
Lex P
Okay.
Santana
Just certain stuff, we be somewhere, I'd be like this. Or like, you know, just us being in the studio. I'd be like, no, since you coming like this. Hold on. I'm finna.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
Hey, go spit that right quick. You know what I'm saying? Just on some best friend shit, like hooking her up. Yeah, but I don't be giving the sauce away, baby.
Drea Nicole
I feel you, though. Cause you're right. It's like, at the end of the day, if I can make a Grammy winning song, I'm gonna do that for myself first. Or I write it for somebody else.
Santana
And just even the LGBT part of it, like, me being a gay boy in hip hop and rap, this ain' this normal. And it's not easy. So I'm like, everything I could get off my pen. Because if I decide to, you know, stop rapping or whatever the case is, I want to be easy for the next gay boy to get through the door versus, like, oh, it was Santana. And after Santana started rapping, we ain't seen that.
Lex P
And that's what I'm saying. That's why I wanted to give you your flowers and really tell you. Cause, like, I really. I'm not trying to be funny. Cause you on the show. I really listen to your music.
Santana
No, when you just did that, you be having. No. We both.
Drea Nicole
The Bad Anthem.
Santana
Yes.
Lex P
Okay. So this was, like. I can't remember. I was in Miami, like, some years ago, and they was like, literally on the ox. I'm like, oh, y'all ain't heard nothing yet. And then I put on that song, and I'm not. Everybody was like, okay. I'm like, yes, you can really rap. So I just wanna give you your flowers and say, don't stop. We need that music. Because you are gonna open so many doors. Cause you actually can rap. Yeah.
Santana
Thank you.
Lex P
And it's fun music.
Santana
Yes.
Lex P
I think there's a lane. Like, not everybody wants to be a deep, conscious rapper.
Drea Nicole
You don't have to. It's just about.
Lex P
We need club music.
Santana
We need club music. And that's really my vibe. Yes. I like, turned up. See, I, like, turn up and make.
Drea Nicole
Girls feel good making turned up bad music.
Lex P
Yes, man. So, yeah. Okay, so I want to get into the friendship that you and Caresha have. Because I feel like that's how I was introduced to you, by, like, y'all just.
Drea Nicole
Yes. Y'all be on live.
Lex P
Y'all be going on live. So is there anything, like, you've ever said on LIVE where you was like, oh, my God, I shouldn't have said that. Like, I'm being. Or she embarrassed me?
Santana
No. We literally treat Live like It's like a FaceTime, I guess. Yeah. And y'all just there. Have we ever said anything.
Lex P
That you.
Drea Nicole
Like, regretting, like, that went viral or something, and you was like, ooh, I don't like that.
Santana
No. I don't think we never had, like, none of those moments. We just. And I guess that's already our culture, too. Like, us being from Florida and, like, we just gonna.
Lex P
You know what I'm saying?
Santana
And we know how to talk in. We know how to talk in cold. And even if we wanna be messy, we know how to just sprinkle a little for y'all.
Lex P
And then I give them two mates.
Santana
Yeah.
Lex P
Cause it's.
Drea Nicole
I feel like we like that, too, a little bit.
Lex P
Yeah, we are. We don't be gonna lie. Cause I think our FaceTimes are too messy.
Santana
Yeah.
Drea Nicole
Oh, we be. We always say if our DMs ever got exposed, that's exactly what we say.
Santana
We be like, y'all be tripping out the we say I'm live, baby. If you get on this phone, if you seen the phone, if you get on this phone, if you get into them DMs when we sharing posts back.
Lex P
And forth, the shade be canceled.
Santana
We will be canceled. Yes. Never seen the phone y'all ain't seen on the live. I ain't nothing.
Lex P
But I think it's so funny because it just is a testament to how witty both of y'all are. Because Caresha please came from you being like, um, caresha please.
Santana
Mm.
Lex P
Like, that's a whole brand for her now.
Santana
Yes.
Lex P
Like that turned into a brand.
Santana
Yes.
Lex P
Like your left you for dead. Like, it's so many little things when.
Drea Nicole
She said them little bitty water bottles.
Lex P
Santana and Santana always like my band.
Santana
My. My man, my man. You came over here asking for my man to cook. You came over here hungry, so.
Lex P
Oh, my God.
Santana
Y'all take what you forget.
Drea Nicole
Y'all have so many like.
Santana
But.
Drea Nicole
But the crazy thing is we sitting here laughing about it and talking about it, but like, with TikTok culture, with like, everything going viral these days and everybody being on social media, y'all have literally had so many moments that have, like, been a part of the culture.
Lex P
Literally. Still, a slap moment was when you was on Funny Marco show and he was like, yeah, Caresha said your bags was fake. You called her, you was like, oh, Caresha. You said my bags taste. She was like, Santana.
Santana
They would. I'mma call you back. I'mma call you back now. Why you called her when you knew that, though? I don't know why I had faith in that girl that day. I was like. You said she was like, Santana for real. I'm like, you know what? Let's don't worry about it.
Drea Nicole
It's okay. Cause they real now.
Santana
They real now.
Drea Nicole
Play with me.
Santana
Lock that tea.
Drea Nicole
Exactly.
Lex P
Okay, so I want to talk about some more stuff, but we about. We.
Drea Nicole
First and foremost, we gotta play Caresha Clee Risha roulette.
Santana
Okay. Period. Girl, I know we gotta play by heart.
Drea Nicole
We gotta play Risha roulette with you.
Santana
It's only right.
Lex P
Who picked these cards?
Drea Nicole
Them? Cause they miss.
Santana
Say, I think I could. Can I tell y'all? I think so. If I can't. Oh, well. Risha Reloaded is coming very soon.
Lex P
Okay.
Drea Nicole
Okay. It's a new game.
Santana
Someone send us a box. Uh huh. You know what I'm saying?
Drea Nicole
Okay. Send us one.
Santana
Yeah. I'll get in trouble. Okay.
Lex P
We love it. It's a fun.
Santana
No, I like the New one. I like the concept.
Lex P
We always play.
Drea Nicole
So you feel like the new one better than this one? Cause this one is some tea.
Santana
The new one is some teas. I like it. It's fun and it's a little variety. It's cute. Yeah.
Lex P
Okay. Cause we don't have to take a shot. But you do have to take a sip of the drink.
Drea Nicole
I mean, I do feel like we should take a little sip of the drink.
Lex P
I can take a sip of a.
Santana
Drink or I can take the rest of my shot.
Drea Nicole
Okay, so we need two more shots, Ty. Cause we about to get a little tipsy. Do you got somewhere else to go after these, girl?
Santana
Nowhere but to a man, period. So you prepping me? So that didn't need to be a little tipsy. You prepping me, boo?
Lex P
I'm weak.
Drea Nicole
Okay? So I'm gonna go first. Well, hold on. Let me let Ty order little shots real quick.
Lex P
He don't need one. He good. It's just me.
Drea Nicole
Oh, yeah, it's just licks, so. Okay, go ahead, take a shot. If you ever suck slash got head with a condom.
Santana
Oh, childish. I don't play with rubber bands and all that.
Drea Nicole
But let me ask y'all something though. Let me ask y'all something.
Santana
What about. Yes, I did.
Lex P
You did?
Drea Nicole
See how quick you lost?
Santana
Oh, my God. I was young. Ew. I was young. I was young.
Lex P
So you gave hair or you was getting.
Santana
I gave the boy hair with a condom on.
Lex P
But why?
Santana
Just young and just like. I don't know. You know how when you young and first of having sex, it's a big thing about condoms and you know, like all that stuff. I'm like, I ain't gonna do that.
Lex P
Well, I protected myself. Yeah.
Drea Nicole
I was gonna say, I too have did that before.
Lex P
But what I was gonna say, I'm the only dirty. I want that raw. You is.
Drea Nicole
But what I was gonna say is. Okay, so how do y'all feel about. You know, people will be like, oh, I'mma suck his. But then when it's time, you gotta wear a condom. Well, if he has you already, I.
Santana
Feel like that too.
Drea Nicole
Me too. How do you feel about that?
Santana
Cause I already put it in your mouth. He done precamesting my.
Lex P
Like, I definitely gave somebody some head. And then we like put on the condom.
Drea Nicole
But what's the point of that? Is it more so the pregnancy?
Santana
Pregnancy, I would say pregnancy.
Lex P
The pregnancy thing. And then it's just different. Like, you know, when the nut and the pre cum, it's different things. You can catch like, you know that.
Santana
Already came in your mouth, though. Yeah.
Lex P
No, he didn't. Like if I'm giving him head and it's like the foreplay.
Santana
Yeah, but it's pre coming. Babe. He's pre coming.
Drea Nicole
That's what he was saying. It's the pre coming, but different.
Lex P
Like something can enter my bloodstream through my vagina and not through my mouth.
Drea Nicole
What if you got a sore in your mouth, though? That's how. No, literally, people can get HIV and stuff from. If you have a sore in your mouth and you suck some dick and pre cum through there.
Santana
It sucks.
Drea Nicole
It happens.
Lex P
Well, I'm not gonna lie. Like I said, I've definitely given head raw. Then put a condom on. I don't know.
Santana
I don't know.
Lex P
Maybe it's more of the pregnancy.
Drea Nicole
All of that stuff.
Lex P
I gotta protect from all that stuff. But the pregnancy, that don't scare me. You know where my kids at?
Drea Nicole
They is upstairs.
Lex P
Rip.
Santana
Hallelujah.
Lex P
Hey, you know. Okay, okay, okay. Let's move on.
Drea Nicole
Okay, what's the next one lit.
Lex P
Take a shot. If you ever someone then turn around and they friend.
Santana
Have I what you mean then turned around? Well, first.
Drea Nicole
First of all that response let me know, baby.
Santana
Take a shot.
Lex P
Because turned around means it don't matter if it's a year.
Santana
Like you turned around and you turned around. Gave me back to back.
Drea Nicole
He said it's given two days later.
Lex P
No, no. It could be like if you somebody and you they friend. Oh, yeah. Then that means I need to take a shot.
Drea Nicole
I never somebody friend.
Lex P
I definitely.
Santana
I done hit girls before.
Lex P
Somebody employee.
Drea Nicole
Somebody's employee. Not their friend.
Santana
I feel like that's still shot. Word.
Drea Nicole
Exactly.
Lex P
Take a serious.
Drea Nicole
They wasn't friends. He worked for him.
Santana
Oh, you boss. Yeah. Thank you.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
That's my girl. Yeah. Period. I got control over your job. So keep it cute.
Lex P
Keep it cute.
Drea Nicole
Are you And I wish you would say something to this now that I done started. You're gonna lose your job.
Lex P
Chris said congratulations, you've been promoted.
Santana
Oh, God. Okay, go the next part. Go.
Drea Nicole
Okay, the next one. Take a shot. If you can sex your ex for a sneaky link right now.
Lex P
Oh, girl, that's easy.
Santana
As he called. I just got off the phone with.
Lex P
You. Wanna see him?
Santana
He said he leaked.
Drea Nicole
When he said he going meeting somebody leaked.
Santana
Tanner, wanna see another man by the dog.
Lex P
Okay.
Drea Nicole
Okay.
Lex P
Walk him like a dog, baby.
Santana
Thank you.
Lex P
Okay.
Drea Nicole
What sure is leaks.
Lex P
Ooh, this is so funny because I know. Take a shot. If you ever Put your finger in. He liked it. He said, uh.
Santana
Oh, for real? Oh, it got. Bitch. Wait, I just feel my shot.
Lex P
This. Oh, yeah.
Santana
You know what? Yeah, Rude. A silent shot.
Drea Nicole
Cause they do.
Santana
And people always say that. The g spiders in your.
Lex P
It is.
Drea Nicole
It is.
Lex P
Oh, it is.
Santana
For real.
Lex P
It's up in there.
Drea Nicole
Why are you asking us?
Santana
I don't like all that.
Drea Nicole
You don't like it?
Lex P
You don't like a little butt blade? We gonna get into that later. We gonna get into that.
Santana
To the butt la.
Drea Nicole
Okay. We gonna get.
Lex P
We gonna get into that later.
Santana
He don't gotta hurt too bad.
Lex P
Okay, okay, okay. All right, Go ahead, Drea.
Drea Nicole
I just read mine.
Lex P
No, that was me.
Santana
I read that.
Drea Nicole
I said, take a shot if you can get a text from your.
Santana
And then she did the finger, and.
Lex P
Then I did the finger and the booty hole.
Drea Nicole
Oh, thank you. My bad.
Lex P
Thank you.
Drea Nicole
Take a shot if you into 50. No, I don't like that one. Take a shot if the 50 shades of gray.
Santana
What do that mean? What is that?
Lex P
That's why bdsm. Bdsm? Like getting tied up, getting spanked.
Santana
I ain't without it.
Drea Nicole
I don't like that. A little feather.
Lex P
I've done it before.
Drea Nicole
But you don't like a little feather on your nipple? You ain't never tried that?
Santana
I didn't never try, but I do like my nipples. That's my.
Lex P
Yeah, like.
Drea Nicole
But I don't know about a feather on your nipple.
Lex P
That's a new pill fairy, you know?
Santana
Okay, I might have to see them.
Drea Nicole
What about the little nipple they have?
Santana
Like, the nipple clips?
Drea Nicole
Yeah, the nipple.
Santana
I don't think I would like that. No.
Lex P
That's hard.
Santana
My nipples sucked hard.
Drea Nicole
Oh, okay.
Santana
Yeah.
Lex P
Don't be so.
Drea Nicole
I don't think I would like the clips. That makes sense.
Lex P
I don't like all that ro.
Santana
They got to be sensual. Okay, all right, y'all.
Drea Nicole
I'm with you. No, so I didn't.
Lex P
Oh, okay. Go ahead.
Drea Nicole
Okay, so take a shot. If the you was. Was another. First of all, saying a goodbye. I feel like, duh.
Santana
Duh.
Lex P
Honestly, though, I can't take a shot or not, because I Honestly, I don't know.
Drea Nicole
Do you ever feel like, ooh, do.
Lex P
I feel like a guy I was dealing with?
Drea Nicole
Yeah. Do you ever.
Santana
What's the name? Well, just call me right here. Oh, caresha.
Lex P
Oh, hello.
Drea Nicole
We said, hey, girl, Come on the show.
Santana
Let me see this thing, Girl. This is too messy. It's too messy.
Drea Nicole
Cause why would you ask that?
Santana
But it's just a take a shot if you man another man and all that.
Drea Nicole
Girl, wait, I gotta ask him on the show.
Santana
Girl, I'm doing the poor. I think I'm telling you about the the Poor Minds podcast. We playing Richa roulette. Girl, telling all my business. Oh, I'm gonna call you back, boo. Now you call me back. She's too messy. She's too messy again.
Lex P
Okay, okay.
Drea Nicole
No, no, don't try to escape. Cause she called.
Lex P
Oh, no, no.
Drea Nicole
Have you ever.
Lex P
Well, I've definitely had relations with a man who I thought he was bisexual. Absolutely.
Drea Nicole
For real?
Lex P
Yeah. But honestly.
Santana
But was you okay with it?
Lex P
It didn't bother me. Cause it wasn't. I don't want to offend anybody, but it wasn't a situation I was taking serious. I'm like, okay, we having fun. You go have your fun. Cause I'm having my fun. We're not like locked in like that. So if you like a little bussy play, go do what you do, bookie.
Santana
I appreciate that because a lot of girls do with bisexuals and act like they don't want to claim it.
Lex P
Yeah, yeah.
Santana
Because I got an ex boyfriend. One of my ex boyfriends is bi. He with. He likes like.
Lex P
Oh, what's his name?
Santana
From who? Tyrone.
Lex P
Well, no, I was talking about Zell.
Santana
Zell's not by.
Lex P
Oh, okay.
Santana
Bye bye. Trick me. So what's the name? No. Tyrone. Bye bye bye. Tyrone is like. He's like. I like. Well, I don't know. With Dayton Zell, I never seen. No. I went through that phone. I ain't seen no.
Lex P
Okay.
Santana
When I went through Tyrone phone, it's transgenders in there. And it's in there.
Lex P
Okay.
Drea Nicole
That's the bus.
Lex P
He like it all.
Santana
Who?
Drea Nicole
Tyrone. Friend you was. Okay, so before Zeal.
Santana
No.
Drea Nicole
So before Zeal, you. No. You was in a. You was in a kind of public relationship.
Lex P
No, she talking about D. She talking.
Drea Nicole
About D. That's not who you talking about.
Santana
No, Tyrone was before him. Tyrone was like one of my first boyfriends. Like, real hoodie to the face, go teeth, bang bang, shoot him up and all that. Thank you. Oh my so very much, Trey. When I first started dating him, but it was so sickening to me because he was like the Trey. But he wasn't like in the mall with him running around here, around my way. Like the one. Ooh, thought she was like, uh huh. But so when I was with him, I really seemed like. He really still does date girls.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
And he don't hide you know, the fact that he. And still with him like, a couple of months.
Drea Nicole
So they knew what he was on.
Santana
A couple of months ago. Probably like earlier, like, in the summertime, he was up here visiting me, and I was cooking for him at. At home. And I was on live. And one of the girls that he live in Jacksonville, one of the. That he with, I guess was on my live and was like, oh, you with Santana girl. She went and busted windows out of house. This mood. I was like, yo, you have a gang of going on. But I know really be. That's biin.
Lex P
You know what I'm saying? I have a friend, she only dates bisexual men because she's bisexual, and she says she just feels like they understand her more, so it's easier for her. So she just only dates bisexual men.
Santana
Yep.
Lex P
But I feel like a lot of times women like y'all be. I'm not saying that you have to or don't have to, but a lot of times y'all be messing with bisexual.
Drea Nicole
Men, and y'all don't know.
Santana
They don't even know it anyway, so.
Drea Nicole
So might as well be cool.
Lex P
Okay, last one. Then we gonna get to the drink.
Drea Nicole
Okay.
Lex P
Take a shot. Cause this is childish and. Cause I know nobody but Shay picked these. Take a shot. If you on yourself.
Santana
Uh, well, like a little.
Lex P
Y'all never like.
Santana
Like a little shark.
Lex P
Yeah, like when you, you know, doing the business.
Drea Nicole
Like, if you think.
Santana
If you think it's a poop. Wait, what? When you. Or maybe like when y'all. Oh.
Drea Nicole
Or what if you think it's a poo and then it's like, why you. No just period.
Santana
I feel like everybody that did a little shortening, but, like, a little. You running. You.
Drea Nicole
You trying to make it to the.
Santana
Oh, my God. Just talk about that. Ain't nothing. Like, well, you're running. And don't let.
Drea Nicole
Close to home.
Santana
Yes, girl, as soon as you. Girl, Yes. I feel like everybody done did.
Drea Nicole
Like, you barely made it.
Santana
Like, barely get to your door.
Lex P
And, like, so you might have a little skid bar.
Drea Nicole
You got a little dookie in there.
Lex P
Skid mark.
Drea Nicole
A little dookie in there.
Santana
Love these.
Lex P
Got a little skid mark.
Santana
I feel like everybody did that.
Drea Nicole
Okay, so you never did that.
Lex P
I just said I done been sick before you shorted. I'm gonna regret telling the story.
Drea Nicole
Tell it anyway.
Lex P
Let me tell y'all what happened. Cause I done got tipsy already. Let me tell y'all, it wasn't me, though. So the guy was dating. This was Like, I thought this was gonna be my husband. I was, like, 20. We living together. So I used to buy these granola bars. And y'all know granola bars are already high in fiber.
Drea Nicole
Yeah, he ate.
Lex P
He smashed that whole box. Cause we used to be smoking or whatever like that. Yeah, he smashed the whole box. So then he got sick. Like, he had the runs. And I was telling him, babe, if you feel like you have to fart, just go sit on the toilet because you're gonna fart. You're gonna think it's a fart. You gonna on yourself. And I kept telling him that. So he was like, okay. He was like, oh, my God, you right. Every time I think I gotta fart, I end up, whatever. So we go to sleep that night. All of a sudden, every single night, huh? You say what?
Santana
He got to fart. Yeah, like, build up for my heart.
Lex P
When you have. When you have diarrhea, when you have the runs, you feel like you have to fart, but it ends up like you're going to the bathroom. So I kept telling him that. So all of a sudden, like, I'm sleep, and I hear, oh, my God. Oh, my God, y'all. I woke up. This man was in his sleep. You know when you sleep and you got. It was all in the be, and you was in it over my leg. It was everywhere, girl.
Santana
I would've had a hot attack.
Lex P
Oh, it was everywhere on your leg? It was all over my leg. Like, literally, it was everywhere. He was just like, oh, my.
Drea Nicole
How much dookie did he have?
Santana
Girl, please.
Drea Nicole
That's on your leg.
Santana
It's crazy, girl. Doodle Brown. I would have had a heart attack. Get out. That's when I would have all had up in them sheets.
Drea Nicole
Javi, we naming this episode Doo Doo Brown.
Lex P
It was so bad. So I think actually that's probably as bad as being on yourself, as being like, it was so bad, y'all. I was like, Cause you got off. Yes. And he was so. And I was embarrassed. It was awkward. He was embarrassed. But, I mean, we were deep in.
Santana
Our relationship, but he probably was sleep a couple of times. So I woke up on the third one. Yeah, dude.
Lex P
I didn't think about that. I was on the third.
Santana
Imagine when you was sleeping, you fart and just letting him out. So he probably every time, he was like, oh, I'm in the free.
Lex P
I'm in the free. Like, I did it.
Santana
I hold on with y'all. Y'all that love, right?
Drea Nicole
No, that's really love. I would have never I would have got my up and never talked to.
Lex P
I mean, you on my leg.
Drea Nicole
Are you serious?
Lex P
And I was. We were so young. Y'all are not.
Santana
That's okay. And.
Lex P
Cause they not gonna let me let us down.
Santana
It's all right.
Drea Nicole
You the one saying, oh, we was young. Like that means something.
Santana
That's love, though.
Lex P
Okay.
Santana
Okay.
Drea Nicole
We gotta get into the first topic.
Lex P
Yeah, let's get into the topic. Go ahead, Draya.
Drea Nicole
Okay.
Santana
What's up, y'all?
Drea Nicole
It's your girl xp and it's your girl Drea Nicole.
Lex P
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Drea Nicole
Yes, absolutely. It's a new year, y'all, and y'all gotta get it together. One thing that I love about time. We're a few things. There's no maintenance fees. There's no overdraft fees. And you get Spot me up to 200.
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Drea Nicole
Topic we wanted to talk to you about because I feel like this would be a good topic. Do you feel like karma is real? Do you think karma is a real thing? Or do you think people just kinda make that up? Because let's be real, it be people who be doing quote unquote, and then seemingly from the outside looking in they life look like it's good. It look like they won. It look like they don't have any consequences for their actions. Some people really get to live a good life. I've said this before on the show. My mom always says, like, my grandmother died when I was in elementary school. My grandfather, he died when I was like 24. He lives to be, like, a ripe old age, like 90. My mom always say my granddaddy was a terrible person, a rolling stone. But my grandmother was a great person, and she died earlier, and, like, she just always seemed to get the short end of the seat, so.
Santana
Yeah, but even if. Even if he lived that long, how many hardships he had during all them years? Was he lonely at the end of his life from being a terrible person? No.
Drea Nicole
He has six kids.
Santana
Yeah. You got kids? I mean, yeah, your kids. So it's kind of unconditional, but did you really have family? Was you really happy with yourself? So I feel like karma is real. Whatever you get. You know why I feel like karma is real? When I used to boost, when I used to steal, I used to steal, but it was awesome. Always like this. I gotta pay this. I lost this. This happened. This happened. But I'm boosting and I'm stealing. I ain't paying for, girl. Everything in life was free, right? If it could fit in our purse, it was gone.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
We at the tie shop everywhere, filling ties is crazy. Whatever could fit my purse, it's going.
Lex P
Yeah. Yeah.
Santana
So literally, we was walking around. Life was free.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
But it was so many hardships that I was like, I'm just gonna stop stealing.
Lex P
Yeah.
Drea Nicole
Cause you felt like you was getting your karma.
Santana
Cause I was getting it back. And I never stole from people. But a department a stole anything we feel like is a company or like, you know, like, I feel like stealing from somebody else. Stealing from person is more.
Drea Nicole
You think words.
Santana
Person tearing down the mall, tearing down the stuff.
Lex P
This is reparation.
Santana
Y'all got. Y'all got a budget for the. They do loss prevention and all that. You all right.
Drea Nicole
Well, I used to steal from stores.
Santana
Too, but I remember we did. And I used to always be like, you know, we live a free life. We don't pay for nothing.
Lex P
But in real life, it was coming out.
Santana
Yes. It was just always something. It was just always other hardships. I was like, I just wanna stop stealing. I was glad that I became so popular and famous that I couldn't steal no more. Cause everywhere I must.
Drea Nicole
I remember one time your pictures was in the stores.
Santana
Yes. We was walking around the mall. I was with my mama, and my mama was like, why do the security people keep telling us, girl. Cause I teared this mall down. They just never could catch it. They could never catch it, but they know when they see me coming. Watch that.
Drea Nicole
My picture used to be in Old Navy in the back.
Santana
Yeah. Oh, my God. Kids had school, Old Navy, child coming.
Lex P
Y'All childish high school.
Drea Nicole
My picture was in Old Navy.
Lex P
I'm not gonna lie. I do not believe in karma.
Santana
I don't.
Lex P
I think when bad things happen to you or whatever, it's just life is life in. I truly believe that there are people who do horrible things to people and they do not reap the benefits of it. I think sometimes it be a good person that lives a good perfect life and bad things be happening to them because it's life. So say like you have a woman who got married to a man, or a man that got married to a woman, they have an outside baby and everything is horrible. Whatever. That person can move on with their life and nothing happened to them for the rest of their lives. Or let's say 10 years later, that person remarries and somebody has a baby on them. I don't think that's karma. I just think that's life. Because that happens to good women or good men all the time.
Santana
It does. But I'm happy on you reap what you sow.
Drea Nicole
I ain't gonna lie. I feel like you reap what you sow. I do.
Santana
I feel like you reap what you sow.
Drea Nicole
I feel like life gone, life gone, life.
Santana
That's what I feel.
Lex P
I just.
Santana
Life is going to life regardless. But I feel like you gonna get out what you put in.
Lex P
Right? But I also feel like.
Drea Nicole
But this about your heart. Like I think everybody do up sometimes. Like, it's always been a point in all of our lives. We could be like, you know what? I chose myself first. I did some knowing that it was gonna hurt somebody, feelings maybe, but I chose myself. It's about show intent though. I feel like you got people out here who are really malicious people. Like, even when you was boosting, you was probably doing that because I gotta make money. Yeah, I gotta like, I gotta make money like this. The only way I could see to make money to feed my family, to do that I need to do. I'm really not trying to hurt nobody. I'm just trying to do what I need to do to survive.
Lex P
Yeah. Yeah.
Drea Nicole
And that's not malicious intent.
Santana
Yeah.
Drea Nicole
You got people who will like like you said. Because I agree with you. Running into somebody house, if it's a family of four and you know this is a multi millionaire, you run up in their house and they kids could potentially be there and you holding a gun to somebody head and they kids could possibly see that and you traumatizing all of that.
Santana
Yeah.
Drea Nicole
Like, to me that is malicious.
Santana
Filling out a. Your homegirl's purge. Yeah, like, I. I never gave that.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
Cause to me that's. That's malicious intent.
Drea Nicole
And it's not that we advocate it. Cause we. I feel like we gotta be clear when we say these. We not advocating for stealing, period.
Santana
We're not saying boosting is okay to yourself and Stu.
Drea Nicole
Yeah, we not saying boosting is okay. But I'm just saying, like, I think some people are really evil people.
Santana
Yeah.
Lex P
Yeah.
Drea Nicole
And I do think those type of people maybe get.
Lex P
Whenever you put yourself in situations, like when you're doing things to be malicious or like, something's gonna come back on you, but I don't want to necessarily say it's karma. Like, okay, like you said, the example you used, you walk up in a millionaire's house, whatever, you hold up a gun and then the repercussions of that is like, you're going to jail or you're getting charged, but that's what happens when you move like that. You know what I'm saying?
Drea Nicole
What about eternity, though? How y'all feel about that?
Lex P
See, that's why I don't know.
Drea Nicole
You believe in God. We all God fearing people. What about eternity? Like, people don't. Somebody might not get their karma now in this moment, but we don't know what happened when people die. Yeah, you might gotta have an eternity.
Santana
But you don't even know what you. You don't even know what people going through that you don't see. Yeah, like you said, y'all, you could. You could see from the outside looking in. It may look like they happy. A might wake up every day and hate miserable. And you don't even know it.
Drea Nicole
Cause she making it look good.
Santana
Cause she making it look good.
Drea Nicole
Yep.
Santana
So she could be at home. Like, I'm such a that person. And that look at me. I hate myself every day when I wake up. We don't know.
Lex P
That's why I say, I think I.
Drea Nicole
Seen a thread on Twitter earlier today. It's so funny that Santana just said that. I seen a thread on Twitter earlier today. It was like this drop in this thread. You. You tried to yourself, but you didn't go through with it or it didn't happen. Say, say why you didn't do it. And it was so many people leaving comments about how they, like, survived, not their attempt to kill their.
Santana
You wouldn't even know. Yeah, you wouldn't even know.
Drea Nicole
And it might be somebody you looking at and you like, oh, she happy.
Lex P
Mm.
Drea Nicole
You just never know Mm. Cause you can be in a mental prison, but it look good on the outside.
Lex P
Yeah, I agree. That's why.
Santana
And that's the worst.
Drea Nicole
And that could be your partner, but.
Santana
That could be your karma.
Lex P
Okay, that's fair.
Drea Nicole
You ain't never at peace.
Lex P
Yeah. Okay.
Santana
And the peace of mind is priceless.
Lex P
What?
Santana
Okay, I don't understand that.
Drea Nicole
I still don't believe that. From your grandma?
Lex P
No.
Santana
I learned that stand with my grandma. Used to get up and nag every day. I say, girl, I'm ready. I got to get out of here. Yeah, you about to run me. I was fresh out of high school. You keep running. Hush, hush. Old people just stuck in their ass up.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
Get out. I said, oh, I gotta get out of here. Yeah, to run me up a wall. I got to go.
Drea Nicole
Cause let's talk about how old people be a little miserable and they be projecting sometimes on us.
Santana
Girl, I'm ready to square up with my grandma. I gotta get out of here. Yes, girl. For real, ma'am. Me and my cousin used to be laying my grandma. We used to be like, for real. She just too old and invisible. For real. You used to be telling people, girl, yes, we used to be laying my grandma. Oh, my God. It was so fun. Oh, we strive.
Lex P
Okay, first of all, Batad, what are we drinking?
Santana
Yes.
Drea Nicole
Cause we skipped the drinking.
Lex P
I was vibing.
Santana
It was vibing. Okay.
Drea Nicole
All right, so in honor of our guest, this one is called the Material Girl. Okay, so we have two different drinks. We have for this one, for Lex and Drea. We have spirit of choice. Drea has some 1942. Lex has some vodka in hers. We have some raspberry liqueur, a little bit of lime juice, a little bit of cinnamon, and some hibiscus spice. And we garnish it with a dehydrated lime and some dried cranberries, and then a little bit of mint. And then for Mr. Santana himself, he loves a strawberry margarita, but he has it, of course, with the 1942. Okay. Just to elevate it a little bit. And then we added a little bit of glitter in it because, of course, he shines.
Lex P
Okay.
Santana
Hello. I like that. Buy me a little caresha, please.
Lex P
What's up, y'all? It's your girl Lex. Pull.
Drea Nicole
And it's your girl Dre Nicole.
Lex P
And we have a very exciting announcement. Today. We have a brand new show dropping.
Drea Nicole
Yes. So we have a brand new show dropping, y'all, on Patreon. It's going to air on September 2nd, and it's called Poor Chronicles. We going to be doing so much stuff on there. We're going to be doing challenges. If you can't go to Bella Noe, where the hell could you go?
Lex P
If you can't go to Bella, no, where the hell can you come?
Drea Nicole
We going to be doing Talk to me. Chit chat with me. We're gonna be spilling a little tea.
Santana
Oh, my God. No, you didn't.
Lex P
Oh, my God.
Drea Nicole
Everything y'all been wanting to see, we gonna be doing it right here on Patreon.
Lex P
Yes. Y'all ask us for so much. Well, we finna give it to y'all every single Monday. And it's gonna be a time, y'all know Poor Mods has grown into its own little entity where we gonna have a lot of fun still over here at Poor Chronicles. So make sure y'all tune in September 2nd. It's going down.
Drea Nicole
Stay tuned.
Lex P
Let me ask you this. I want to get into some tea before we get into the second episode topic.
Drea Nicole
Okay.
Lex P
When you went on College Hill, first of all, I watched the season. Of course, it's Carlos, star of the show. Shout out to Carlos.
Drea Nicole
Did you see Carlos out there?
Santana
Yeah, I did when I came in.
Lex P
So. So you definitely, like, made it interesting.
Santana
Star of the show.
Lex P
I feel like between, like, you, Carlos, and Nick, that dynamic star of the show.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Lex P
Was hilarious. But let me ask you this. Why you wouldn't get your up and go to school? Like, why did you do that? You know what you supposed to do on College Hillski.
Drea Nicole
You supposed to be there for school.
Santana
I did go to school. I want y'all to know that y'all are watching TV.
Drea Nicole
Okay.
Santana
We were in New Orleans for 30 days. Y'all only seen eight episodes.
Lex P
Okay?
Santana
So I did go to school every day. Every single day I went to school. I did not go to every class.
Lex P
You would miss the morning class.
Santana
It was eight. Yes. And it's able to 30 days into eight episodes. Is able to edit like that. Never at school, but I did go to school every day. But I did go to the club every night.
Lex P
Okay.
Santana
And so, you know, sometimes those little first and second periods go out and make it. And I just felt like I just wanted to give a different experience. Some people. I grew up with strict parents. Very strict. All the way up until you graduate.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
You know how many kids grow up with strict parents? And when they get to their freshman year of college, they bust loose?
Lex P
I always say that I'm a. I.
Drea Nicole
Had a friend like that when I went to college.
Santana
Exactly like that. They bust loose. It's frat parties. I'm. I'm smoking, I'm drinking, I'm skipping class, I'm cussing the teachers out. Nobody can't call my mama on me. Nobody. Ain't no parent teacher conference kiss my. Cause I finally got. That was my. I gave that freshman experience. It was enough prunes on there to be serious.
Lex P
Who you didn't like?
Santana
You know, all of us was like family. Stop lying.
Lex P
Who you didn't like?
Santana
I swear to God. They sat us down and said, y'all need to fight. Because we was like. We was. We. We bonded.
Lex P
But you was mad about the baby. Like.
Santana
Yeah, I cussed out then cussed out about my mother baby because you know why they hid my baby. I'm sorry. They hit my baby in my head. I had my plan. Yeah. I said, I'm finna be a single mom. So when I'm. When I'm not going to class and.
Drea Nicole
Stuff, I got kids because I'm taking care of my.
Santana
Because you know what I'm saying? I had nobody watch my baby. They hid my baby like day three. I said, oh, y'all wanna do bad girls club, let me know.
Lex P
Okay. Okay, that makes sense.
Drea Nicole
It says we can really get out here.
Santana
We just got here. Y'all wanna with me?
Lex P
Yeah. Okay, I see what you're saying.
Santana
You supposed to hide a baby day 17 and stuff like that.
Drea Nicole
Well, I suppose to hide a baby.
Lex P
Well, it was a baby doll.
Drea Nicole
I know, but still.
Santana
But still don't come with me. It's. We just got here.
Lex P
So do you and Claudia get along or not?
Santana
Yeah. Now, to this day, I love Claudia.
Lex P
Okay.
Santana
And I think it was a situation to where that's why I'm the type of person. Excuse me. I don't speak on celebrities or influencers or whoever. Publicly.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
I'mma call Caresha. And we gonna lay.
Lex P
Okay.
Santana
That's what we do too.
Lex P
That's gonna lay.
Santana
But I'm not in Shade Room comments. I'm not in neighborhood talk comments. I'm not in comments inserting my opinions or anything that I gotta say.
Drea Nicole
Yeah, I agree.
Santana
And so especially when how the world is now you know that we consume 1530 second clips and don't get the whole context of what the we watching, but we gonna comment on them 15 seconds. Yeah, you gonna watch a 15 second of me saying you. And they like, oh, Santana Ru. Why you said her no? Watch the minute and see what she said to me. Why I said, we don't get to see that. And A lot of times, once you see a viral clip, you don't even go figure out what was the rest. You just can't go from that. And so I felt like when I had. When I. Claudia came in the house, I had always seen Claudia on the Internet, just running her mouth about me, about. Off of.
Drea Nicole
About you?
Lex P
Yeah, off of clips.
Santana
Off of clips. And one of the clips that she had said, I'm gonna sell it to y'all. Cause y'all girls, I was at a gay pride event and, you know, I'm bigging up the crowd. I'm like, you know what I'm saying? Y'all, we gays, we do this. We run the mother world. We the mother blueprint to this. And I could say fast forward blueprint. When I said blueprint, I didn't mean as in. Cause blueprint is like the original. So I wasn't saying that we're the blueprint to women or to the world, but I was hyping us up because gays have a heavy influence.
Drea Nicole
Y'all do.
Lex P
It's a two way street. That's what I'm saying. Like, they don't like to give y'all that.
Santana
Yes, we have a heavy influence. And sometimes I just was watching a Keke Palmer, I seen a clip or whatever. She didn't know the gag is she didn't know where that came from when she had first started saying it. And you know what I'm saying? Us as gays, sometimes we get hostile or because we, like, y'all don't give us nothing. We don't get no credit. We don't so anything as far as we.
Lex P
Yeah, I had somebody curse me out one time. They're like, you need to watch Paris is Burning and learn your history.
Santana
Yes.
Drea Nicole
I said yes and I did watch it.
Santana
We get a little overprotective, you know what I'm saying? Sometimes, or even sometimes when it was time to cancel the baby for whatever he said, gays was like, yeah. Cause it's like you finally felt like we got some type of position of power. Because we always looked at as being a gay boy for a man. You looked at as, oh, you soft, you feminine, you a punk, you know what I'm saying? Even us working in the industry, gay boys are normally the hairstylist, the makeup artist. You hold my dress, hold my heels, do my nails. You're behind this. You the Dubois, you know what I'm saying? You behind the scenes. Or you might be accessory to your homegirl. Like, oh, yeah, we want the gay boy around, he gonna make us laugh and make us do this. And then when he pisses off, he's. And so.
Lex P
Cause that happens a lot.
Drea Nicole
Or we can steal the lingo in it.
Santana
The lingo too. And so I'm literally at a gay pride event. I'm talking to a crowd full of gay people, right? And I'm just really bigging us up. I'm like. You know what I'm saying? We got so much power and so much influence. Don't never let a tell y'all that. You know what I'm saying? We ain't it. Don't ever stop being yourself. Because now where we at today, gay is a lot more normalized. And you know what I'm saying? Just the impact that we have that I see. Like, you know what I'm saying? When it comes to 50 inch wigs that. That we seen from drag queens. Because it's extra. It's not. The average woman ain't walking around with mother. Well, unless you the people who we chop their hair to get the bundles. Unless you one of them.
Drea Nicole
Unless me.
Santana
And check out the 50 inch hair. Even how makeup is now. These pitched noses.
Lex P
Oh, I love it.
Santana
All this high blush over line, big drag. Like it's drag.
Lex P
It's drag, it's extra.
Santana
How we getting our bodies done now? Little bit waist that would snatch up in the corset. I remember the drag creatures. Stuffed pillows. Yes.
Lex P
And they hips and they. I told y'all watch.
Santana
That's how we look now.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
Let's take it to men.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
Skinny jeans was gay in high school. Every skinny jeans shorts above the knee was gay. Now got on hoochie daddies.
Lex P
Hoochie daddy shorts. You ain't lying. That was my roommate that made that go viral. Hoochie daddy shorts. Jazz made that go viral.
Santana
So it's like. I'm like. But I'm like, I'm like, I ain't even putting it on women. I'm like, shock us too.
Lex P
Yeah, yeah.
Santana
Be talking about, what's tea?
Lex P
I remember that's money bag, y'all.
Santana
I remember a money bag. I live for him. Money bag.
Drea Nicole
He gonna have all the.
Lex P
He says the lingo in his.
Santana
All his songs. Yes, he does. It was so funny. One day, I remember my daddy was like, what's the tea? I said, huh? He was like, well, I said, you can't say that.
Lex P
He had a whole song called Let me find out. Yeah, yeah.
Santana
And so it's giving.
Lex P
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Santana
It's giving. Clock that. Yes, the shade. Oh, he oh, he throwing shade. I'm like, y'all. I said, when y'all talking, do y'all know where that come from?
Lex P
Yeah, yeah, that's true. That's very true.
Santana
So I'm just like. I was like. You know what I'm saying? And that's all I was saying.
Lex P
But she took it.
Santana
She took and was like, oh, ain't no man with no beard and no nails finna tell me he think he. I'm like, girl, it wasn't even all that. What I was giving. You didn't even research what the you was looking at.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
And so once we got in the house, I gave. We had literally the same conversation I just had with y'all.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
And she was like, you know what? I could understand now what you said. She said, all I judged you off was that clip.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
And we had got cool, and we was smooth selling the whole time. Like, I love Claudia. And you know what? Learning being around Claudia for them 30 days. Claudia is a sweetheart, and she mean well. But the. That Claudia say, you have to know her to be like, she didn't mean no harm, that Claudia. Okay.
Lex P
I'm glad you said that. Cause I like Claudia. Me and Claudia follow each other.
Santana
Yes.
Lex P
I had met Claudia because during quarantine.
Santana
You know, you got that friend you like, girl.
Lex P
Yeah, yeah.
Santana
She mean, that's her. But I didn't know. I didn't mean.
Lex P
Nothing is like my brother. So I didn't like that she kept calling Carlos old at the same age.
Santana
Claudia is great tv.
Lex P
She's like, carlos old. I was like, claudia's great tv. I had to Google. I think she's older than him.
Santana
She's crazy. Which.
Lex P
There's nothing wrong with that. No.
Drea Nicole
But calling somebody old when you're older than them is crazy, too.
Lex P
Tv, okay.
Santana
When you go into TV world and you sit down and do that confessional and that producer say, turn it on.
Lex P
You got to turn it on.
Drea Nicole
So speaking of tv, I do want to ask you this because you just said how you feel like now being gay is okay. How do you feel about people feeling like they have to insert the LGBTQ community and everything as far as, like, even children's program? How do you feel about that? Because, like, I feel like these days, you can't even watch a cartoon without. And I understand inclusivity, but it's almost like they feel like they have to make it inclusive in everything. How do you feel about that?
Santana
I feel like with children.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
Children are innocent. And you children should be making whatever decision they want to make where they're of age. So even. Like, as for myself, I wouldn't want a gay child. Not because nothing is wrong with it, but because I know everything that I've been through.
Lex P
Right. A lot of gay.
Santana
My child might not be strong enough to endure that, but if my child did turn out gay, I'mma love you no mother less. And I'm going to teach you how to serve these same thing. But, you know, I feel like just even. I feel like. I feel like children are children. Whether it's showing them gay, whether it's showing them guns, whether it's showing them drugs.
Lex P
That's what.
Santana
Whether it's showing them whatever they. Kids. That's the point of rated PG. Rated PG 13, rated R. It's just about the maturity of their mind. Let a kid be a kid. When it's time for them to get old enough and start seeing and exploring, they'll find it. You don't have to.
Lex P
Because I think with anything on a cartoon show, I don't wanna see a woman and a man kissing. I don't wanna see none of that. Why do they need to see that in a cartoon? Cause it's sexual. No matter if it's a man or a woman. Two men, two women.
Santana
All of that.
Lex P
All of that is sexual. And it all needs to go on a children's program.
Santana
I agree.
Lex P
So I'm just saying if you gon. Whatever the inclusivity, that's cool, but y'all need to take all of it out.
Drea Nicole
But I feel like we're in a climate. We're in a climate in a time where because I feel like it was so underrepresented for such a long time, they feel like it has to be in everything.
Santana
Yeah, I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't agree with that. Gay is, you know, is when you of age, when you. When you. When you. When you old enough. I remember when I was in my mom house.
Drea Nicole
But do you feel like it's. But the thing, friend. Do you really feel like it's of age when, like. Cause I feel like you knew you was gay at a young age. Yeah, I know that. Maybe that's why they feel like they gotta include it.
Santana
I knew that I was gay, but I was still figuring stuff out. When I was 18, I thought I wanted to be transgender.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
I cut off all my facial hair. I had bras, panties, everything. Wigs, hair.
Lex P
You used to be covering up those hair.
Santana
Yes, I had. I cut off all my facial hair. I had one that bought me, like, three wigs. I had bras. I still wear panties, but you know what I'm saying? I had bras, panties, the whole night, everything. And then three was that I was like, I don't wanna be transgender. I'm just girly.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
I like my ha. I like my nails. I like a beat face some days.
Drea Nicole
But I'm a. Yeah, but imagine if it was promoted and you said, exactly.
Santana
And just even right now, with kids that are underage going transgender and whatever the case is, you too young for that. Your hormones ain't kicked in yet, but, you know, you need some time. You need time.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
You don't. You might think. You might think, like, oh. And then it's like, oh, for your saying, I don't want to be this now you got to decompress it.
Lex P
You know, y'all, I go deep in my TikTok holes. There's a whole side of things tik tok they talk.
Drea Nicole
Cuz once you make that decision, once you make that decision to change, it ain't no going back.
Lex P
There's not. Cuz you take hormones, like, worth. You're taking.
Santana
You can go back, but it's just a whole decompressing. Now you was taking estrogen. Now you got to take testosterone, break it back down all. But I. I feel like all of that, I. I respect my mama for that. Now, being grown, you, when you move up out of here and you graduate and you're an adult, you can make your. You can make your own.
Lex P
Because I think that's the same thing with, like, being. Growing up, like, as a straight woman and knowing, like, I like men or whatever. Like, that. All that stuff takes time. You don't need to be having sex and doing all that stuff. You don't need to be seeing all that stuff. Cause honestly, if I could go back, yes, I would have waited to have sex. Like I said, I think it's the same rules for gay, straight, whatever. It's a lot being pushed on the younger generation in general. That's how I feel.
Drea Nicole
Oh, I be feeling bad for them. I feel like social media, being online, comparing yourselves to other people, then looking at those of us that are older than them, who have the Chanels, who have the jewelry, who have X, Y and Z. And now you like 21, and you feel like, I. I don't got my together, because I don't.
Santana
I feel like when we were 21.
Drea Nicole
We was wearing Tory Burch.
Santana
Yes.
Drea Nicole
We was wearing the Toms.
Santana
I had my mother Aldo bag with my drink. And we was teased. And we was teased.
Lex P
The boy that on me bought me some Aldos.
Santana
That's what I'm saying. And we wasn't.
Lex P
And I thought I ate.
Santana
We wasn't even worried about no Chanel or even feeling like we wasn't the one. Cause we didn't even get one.
Drea Nicole
We didn't care because we wasn't thinking. Cause to us, Chanel was like, oh, Beyonce, them be wearing Shane.
Santana
Yes.
Drea Nicole
Like we regular people like let's wear.
Lex P
Chanel's like everyday bags.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Lex P
The young, young girls.
Drea Nicole
And that's why I feel bad for them because I feel like it's so much pressure. Like if you 20 and you ain't got some Chanel's, you ain't got an AP yet. You ain't got all of this stuff. You ain't doing it right. It's so much pressure. And that's why I really feel bad for this new generation because I feel like we really got to be young and enjoy. We had a good time. It wasn't about comparing ourselves to other people and like what other people got or I got to be on this level of success. We really was outside having a good time in our little business casual club. We had blazers and a blazer.
Santana
The body part dressed with the blazer from the corporate Shane pumps.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Lex P
Don't get me started on the Jeffrey Campbell with no hill.
Santana
I used to live through my cousin Deirdre. Oh my God. I always tell Caresha how me and Caresha is now. That's how me and Deirdre was growing up.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
Deirdre was the baddest in the world to me. Did I storm through the cloud with her Jeffrey Campbell? No heel with her body condren. Oh my gosh. Her mother, 22ish, wet and wavy hair.
Drea Nicole
Oh, wait. With the Keisha Koir blue lip.
Santana
Oh, that was Deanna. So the blue purple lip. I had a group. We was called Kid of the Dolls. I was kid and all of my homegirls was older than me. Everybody fab. Kelsey used to. Kelsey was the first in our city with 30 inch bundles. She had a pink. A pink Chrysler with 30 inch rings. I know that's right. Deanna was the. Deanna was the weird one. The blue lip from Keisha K1 Deann was the makeup girl. She had to do her makeup. Deirdre was the. Deirdre was like, ah, Nicki Minaj.
Lex P
Oh my God.
Santana
Chinese thing. Her Jeffrey Campbell hills. We had Tiffany. Tiffany come through Think great context, girl. We was brought in. It was a. I'm a gay boy with the mother blonde hair. Yeah. Like mother bloody long cheetah thong. Thick Georgia thong. Right. Bamboo saw my jean jacket. I had just bleached my outfit before the club, man. What up, girl? We was raw. Oh my God.
Drea Nicole
I told you it was a time. Cause no, you remember like, and this was before. Like nobody gave a about social media. We just used to be outside.
Lex P
But that's what I was telling.
Drea Nicole
Super.
Lex P
I used to have the lime green eyeshadow, all these bright colors all the.
Santana
Way to the top of your eyes.
Lex P
Oh my God. Way up here. And it's like, yeah, I ate that.
Drea Nicole
We was cutting up. It was just a good time.
Lex P
Now speaking of being a bad though, cuz that's going to bring us to the next topic. We had to talk to you about this because.
Drea Nicole
Cause I feel like, ooh, you gonna go in on this topic?
Santana
Oh, I'm ready.
Lex P
Okay. So I feel like the men that I date are attractive.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Lex P
Like I date attractive guys for the. Like, I feel like she love a cute. I love a cute man that look good, but it's a difference between a man that's fine and he looks good, but there's a difference between that and a bad.
Santana
Uh huh.
Lex P
I think it's an epidemic of bad that. And I'm not talking about like there is a man that I'm thinking about and I'm not gonna give any clues or nothing. This man is gorgeous. Beautiful. I mean from head to toe he looks so good. But his attitude is like, he's a bad. Like, oh, he walks in the room, he like, yeah, I'm here, I've arrived. You know what I'm saying? Like, he wants like.
Drea Nicole
But he a straight man.
Lex P
He's a straight man. He's a straight man. But he feels like I'm so bad.
Santana
I'm the prize.
Lex P
I'm the prize. So I want to talk about bad. Cause they're here and they're ready.
Drea Nicole
How you feel about them, Santana?
Santana
I got, I got. I got one of them on my roster.
Lex P
Okay, you do.
Santana
And I had to break that down like a mother.
Lex P
How did you do that though?
Santana
I'm different. Okay, so. And see, this is where like my boy instincts kick in.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
So I look at how he treat the other that he talk to. I look at how they lust over him and how they going for anything.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
A. Like we ain't going for nothing.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
So I'm like, oh, this is why you got that because, mind you, he fine as hell. Oh, baby, he fine as.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
And so I know that he know he fine as.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
And then gassed him so he know that he's fine. So then on top of you being fine and the is smooth charming.
Lex P
Ooh, that's even worse. Double whammy. Cause usually bad be lame and corny charming.
Santana
And know he charming.
Lex P
Okay.
Santana
A vibe. And know he a vibe. So he know. He know. He know. He know he got it.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
So. And then it's Crash Out Records about.
Drea Nicole
Him, not Crash Out Records.
Santana
I almost. You know what I'm saying? When I came. When you know, when I got on the roster. You know, I get big mama when I talk. Who. Excuse me. I don't even play that.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
So you know what I'm saying? I came in and I came in line. If he got a roster, I'm at the top. And the knew what time it was. But I started as like. You know what I'm saying? When I first started talking to. And I really like him. I'm coming in as wifey.
Lex P
What you be doing?
Santana
I'm coming in. I'm coming in as wifey.
Drea Nicole
In your role.
Santana
I'm coming in as wifey. Cause I'm a savage.
Drea Nicole
Oh, not cause that's what you want to be.
Santana
Just because I'm coming in as wifey. Because you know when you first start talking to a. I like you. I love you. Oh, my God. I'm in love with you. You the man of my dreams. So I'm coming in as wifey. I'ma show you what you could get. And when you with me, I'mma show you what these get.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
Yeah. I'm gonna show you why Monday through Tuesday is five of y'all.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
I'm gonna show you why you just left me and you would. Huh? What happened? I thought you said you was going home. I wasn't raised.
Lex P
I've always seen that side of you, though I have never seen the wifeyou.
Santana
Yes.
Lex P
It's always seen, like, the sad.
Santana
I don't advertise wifey. Cause you know what I'm saying?
Lex P
Okay.
Santana
So. But that's how I come.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
Ooh.
Drea Nicole
I didn't take a page from your page. I feel like I come in mean, and I get nice.
Santana
I come in as wifey. And so that's how I came in with him. I came in very much. We together every day. Can't even get enough time with it. Yeah. Cause he with me, it's giving, and he's a gentleman. I'm with him. A dollar don't leave my purse. You know what I'm saying?
Drea Nicole
As it should.
Santana
Thank you. And so I'm a smart. You know what I'm saying? When you. When you got it, when you make feel good, he'll make you feel better.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
So you know what I'm saying? Now I'm doing my little ones until it's like, you know, let me just. Let me do this money right quick. Just to the sense say. Cause every time I'm with him, he makes sure I'm straight.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
So I'm coming in as wifey. And then I see. You know, I always. I always used to tell my cousin me, and we have a com. I call it a comfy seat. The comfy chair. So once you be with a long enough and you know, like, all right, she locked in. I got her. Now it's time to take this for a ride.
Lex P
Oh, my God.
Santana
So I hate it, right? Once I started seeing this taking me.
Drea Nicole
For a ride, you started feeling like that about him.
Santana
I'm like, oh. He like, yeah. What? And I'm very observant.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
So just how talk.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
Yeah. Ain't no. Ain't no. Oh, yeah.
Drea Nicole
He's saying all this stuff to you.
Santana
I'm him. What?
Lex P
Ooh, we hate her. I'm here.
Santana
Hemothy.
Lex P
I hate that.
Drea Nicole
Himothy.
Santana
I'm him.
Lex P
Oh, my God.
Santana
So I'm like, oh, girl. So now I'm finding myself at homesteads Krish. I'm like, and caresha.
Drea Nicole
She had me down through the yes and caresha.
Santana
Like not shoe. She couldn't even symbolize me. Cause she like, not you.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
I'm telling you this. I said, you know what? Hold up.
Drea Nicole
Let me get it back together.
Santana
I went. I had stopped talking to him. It was so funny how. It was so funny how I did it. And to this day, he don't know why. I told him I would never tell him why I did it.
Lex P
So y'all don't talk no more?
Santana
No, girl, that's.
Drea Nicole
No. He said he took it.
Santana
That's how I met again. But I Me and him was together one day, and after I left him, I just never answered my phone again ever.
Drea Nicole
For like, what, week?
Santana
Three weeks.
Lex P
Okay, you strong. I can't do that.
Santana
Oh, my God. You sound like caresha. That's what I'm talking about.
Lex P
Oh, my God. I can't do that.
Santana
That's what it's all.
Lex P
I cannot leave.
Drea Nicole
I be doing it.
Santana
So it was so crazy. Cause. But this is. This was like my main.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
Like, he at the top of the roster. So three weeks is a long time. A long time. It is.
Lex P
It's a long time.
Drea Nicole
It's hard.
Santana
It's. Girl, it did get hard.
Drea Nicole
I said, I do it, but it's hard.
Santana
It's hard.
Drea Nicole
It's hard.
Santana
So I'm like, he calling, calling. She blowing me up. I won't answer. He blowing up. I. He text her, emergency. I'm over that. My dog. That. I don't care.
Drea Nicole
He told you that?
Santana
He. He text me, like, emergency.
Drea Nicole
Oh, he said that?
Lex P
Exactly.
Santana
Yeah. But emergency.
Lex P
I don't give a right?
Santana
Wait a couple days. He called again. I ain't answering.
Lex P
You strong as hell, but in my.
Santana
Head, I'm like, I don't watch you. So then we got mutual friends. Oh, yeah. He seen you had posted this. I'm like, I don't care. So it's going and going and going and going. As the three weeks over, I just come back around. Like, what up?
Lex P
So you the toxic one.
Drea Nicole
I don't think he toxic, though. Cause, like, if you playing with me, I'm gonna remind you.
Santana
You were so bad.
Lex P
Okay.
Santana
You thought you was bigger than the program.
Lex P
You ain't finna treat me like that. Okay, that's true.
Santana
Oh, you thought you was bigger than the program.
Drea Nicole
We can both. You thought. That's my.
Santana
I literally snuck that a few weeks.
Drea Nicole
Ago, and it went viral on Twitter. I said, I'll cut anybody off. Cause you thought she was bigger than the program.
Santana
I thought she was bigger than the program. Okay? So when I knew that, I knew. Mission accomplished. When we started talking, he was like. He was like, me. He said, me. He said, you did that to me? And I said my exact words. I said, yeah. I said, you think you bigger than the program? He was like, what that mean? I was like, nothing. Keep talking. He was like, yeah. Like, I just wouldn't have. Did you like that? Like, he was like, out of everybody, me.
Lex P
Yes, you.
Drea Nicole
Cause you played with me first.
Lex P
But that's why I said, people.
Santana
And he remembered. I didn't even know he counted. He was like, you ain't talking to me for three weeks.
Lex P
Yeah, he was counting these. I spent 311 days.
Santana
I was like. He was like, 3.
Drea Nicole
He was mad.
Santana
He was like. He was like, man. He was like, don't never do no. Like that. I said, okay. Yeah. I just had to. Cause I know you had a little bad. You knew that.
Lex P
That's what I'm saying. I feel like I enjoy being around men and women. Like, it's okay to know you're attractive and have confidence, but it's a different thing to be like, yeah, I know I'm fine. I know I'm bad and I can act however I want and I can treat people however I want.
Santana
And I can get away with because.
Lex P
I'm beautiful or because I'm fine.
Drea Nicole
But it still does. You being fine shouldn't make you a bad person. Or if you're like.
Lex P
But it do be making people bad people. That's what's crazy about it. I think that's why people, period. I think that's why people judged our show.
Drea Nicole
Santana. I ain't even finished taking my damn shot, y'all.
Lex P
I'm sipping on mine. But I think that's why people judge like poor minds in the beginning. And I'll even say with Caresha. Cause people always felt like, oh, she's not talented. She's just used to being a beautiful girl having her way. You know, when JT went to jail, she carried.
Santana
Uh huh.
Lex P
Because it doesn't matter how beautiful you are. Can you get on that stage and entertain us?
Santana
Yes.
Lex P
She got on that stage, she rapped, she had videos. She was on live with you. Like, she did what she had to do. And that's beyond beauty.
Drea Nicole
And then got pregnant in the midst of it.
Santana
And still I still was rocking it.
Drea Nicole
Yup.
Lex P
And now I do wanna talk about friendships because when Caresha stopped doing Caresha, please. And it was like we didn't know where we was gonna go. Because obviously everything that was going on with Diddy. Mm. And when she came back, you did the first episode.
Santana
Mm.
Drea Nicole
You did such. Let me say this real quick. No. Cause I gotta give him his flowers. You really should even think about, like, I mean, I know you a rapper and I feel like you could definitely write for people too. Cause we just talked about that. Have some Grammy award winning songs. But you are really a good interviewer.
Santana
That's such a good job.
Drea Nicole
Like you. You did such a good job. Like a good balance of asking the right questions, but then also giving her time to really answer well. And then you wasn't judgmental. Like, I don't. And that's probably because y'all are friends.
Santana
Yeah.
Drea Nicole
But I still feel like you could do that outside of like doing it with your friend. Like, you did such a good job.
Santana
Thank you. That's why, like, I like when I interview and when. Because I think sometimes we get caught up in like, people get caught up in we hood, we hood, we Hood, we gotta. We gotta. I think y'all not smart like you dumb or something. Yeah, this ain't that. And you know what I'm saying at the same time, you know me and Caresha was cussing me out during that interview, and she was like. She said, you interviewing me, so she.
Drea Nicole
Didn'T know the questions you was gonna ask.
Lex P
But that's what I wanted to ask you because I'm not gonna lie, I do think you did an amazing job.
Santana
Uh huh.
Lex P
But I feel like it was a lot of stuff. Like, that's why when I watched it, I watched it in full. And at the end I'm like, hmm. Cause I. Santana, you be going in. So did you do that interview as her friend or were you?
Santana
I did the interview as the interviewer and I think he gave it the call. No, he did a great job. Of course. That is my friend. So you know what I'm saying? I'm gonna ask you everything, and you gonna answer what you feel comfortable as best as you can. And Caresha actually answered everything?
Lex P
Yeah, yeah.
Santana
Everything that I actually answered.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
She is an overthinker. Some things got taken out.
Lex P
Right?
Drea Nicole
Really?
Santana
Yeah.
Drea Nicole
She don't give that.
Santana
Yes. Oh, my God. I mean, but also, and especially in that moment, the whole world turned their back against my best friend. They did. So she was scared to say apple because everybody had whatever.
Drea Nicole
Orange.
Santana
Yeah, everybody had a problem with every mother thing. Oh, man.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
So, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, we really got. We really got into some tea and got into some things. And, you know, it was just like. I'm like. She was like. She's like. It was so funny. She said, santana, for real, you acting like an interviewer.
Lex P
Okay.
Santana
I was like, you know what I'm saying? We still at work. Thank you. We both period, you know what I'm saying? We still at work. And the reason why I asked her everything and I wanted her to get off her chest because I went through that whole thing with her and that's.
Lex P
What I wanted to talk about.
Drea Nicole
You was there. Yeah.
Lex P
Because certain things be happening. And like I said, Poor Minds is a big podcast, but it's not like, on the level of, like, we got millions of people judging us. So sometimes we'll have things go on and people be like, oh, Draya, Lex said this. How are you standing behind her? One thing about it, we can argue behind closed doors, but in that we are an army front. If you dissing Drea, you dissing me. Vice versa.
Drea Nicole
No, we very much like that people will say little in the comments. They'll be like, oh, I feel like Lex was being weird towards Dre today. Or I feel like Dre was being weird towards Lex. They must got some going on. First of all, we straight. Cause even if we do got something going on, you ain't got nobody.
Santana
And keep that. Keep that. Because I grew up, like, all I did was hang around girls. And I know girls have that in the bottom of them, the little Caddy. Yeah. I mean, we do, you know, yeah.
Lex P
We have our moments, but we're family, you know, strong.
Santana
Keep it solid.
Drea Nicole
But I think that that interview very much humanized. It did caresha.
Lex P
It did.
Drea Nicole
Because I think when you're in the spotlight, like, even you, I'm sure some of the backlash you get a lot of the time, like, people tend to forget at the end of the day, we all people.
Santana
We people. We people. And. And. And. And I don't. And I don't never let people make me think that I'm not.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
So some days when you see me and I don't want to take a picture, girl, I just broke up with my. I'm irritating.
Drea Nicole
Trying to be. It's not about you. I'm not being mean.
Santana
I came outside to have me a mother drinking. I'm bad, right?
Lex P
I'm trying to loosen up.
Santana
You know what I'm saying? If I'm at the. If, you know, you know, you got that little corner stone right there by your house.
Lex P
My bar?
Santana
Yes, My bar. Girl, I picked up in here. This is two minutes from my house.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
Clothes ain't done. I got on flip flops. I don't got no durag right now, girl. It's a boss fight. I had to be in my head. Move. I don't wanna take no picture.
Drea Nicole
So, friend, you don't ever feel bad about that?
Santana
No, I'm human.
Drea Nicole
I always gotta be. I feel like I always. No matter what. No, because of, like, poor minds. Because we're at a point now where I literally can't go anywhere without running into somebody who knows from the show.
Santana
But you're having a bad day.
Drea Nicole
I do be having a bad. But I feel like despite me having a bad day, I always gotta be like, oh, hey, hey, what's up? If somebody wants to take a picture, I feel bad. Cause I don't want them to be able to say, oh, I ran into Draya and she was, oh, my God.
Santana
Can I take a picture? Not right now, baby. I'm so sorry. I look ugly as hell.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
No, you don't? No. You don't? No. I don't feel good today. I'm sorry. But it's nice to meet you.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
You can't get mad at me for that. Sorry.
Drea Nicole
I need my space.
Santana
I think he's found that. My friend Big Boundary just went to jail the other day.
Drea Nicole
He said, that's the one who be jumping.
Santana
Yeah.
Drea Nicole
Okay.
Santana
For a suspended license he didn't even know he went to. He sat in jail for nine hours that whole day, irritated. When he got out, he went to a restaurant. He went to one of his favorite restaurants by his house. I've been in jail for nine hours. I just wanna eat and go home.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
You know, he eating. He asked to sit somewhere secluded. Fans still knew he was in there and they wanted to come take pictures. And I was like, how you felt at that moment? He was like, I understood what you said. He was like, I had a long day. I just wanted to. And go home and just.
Lex P
And just be normal for a second.
Santana
And I said, and it's okay to say not. I love you so much. Not today.
Lex P
And that's what I wanted to ask.
Drea Nicole
You so bad, y'all. I have to work on it. Cause I literally always feel obligated.
Santana
But like you said, just how I humanized caresha. You got to make somebody. You. You a person still.
Lex P
Yeah, but that's what I wanted to ask.
Santana
Imagine your grandma, God forbid, I don't know, your grandma just died or something. But you got to run errands.
Drea Nicole
All my grandma's dead.
Santana
That's what you want to say, but say it just happened. She crazy. But say your grandma or something traumatic just happened. Yeah, but you got to cook dinner tonight. So you in the grocery store. Yeah, with everything on my mind. But I still got it. Or I got to go right here or something. Anything. I'm going. You don't even know what I'm going through right now mentally. What if at home. We don't know. Every day you go home depressed, you don't like yourself. We don't know.
Lex P
But that's what I want to tell you.
Santana
That's from poor minds. We live for you. But I could be having a bad day.
Drea Nicole
You could give me that.
Santana
You gonna give me that?
Lex P
Because how was that like being there for her during that? Because I know it was. It was some points where. I don't know Cresha. And it was on, like, I'm looking on Twitter and I'm looking at the things that they are saying. I'm like, bro, y'all. Acting like she the one doing it.
Santana
It was hard.
Lex P
So that's what I wanted to ask.
Drea Nicole
This is all. This is what I've always said about the whole situation. I don't think I ever said this on poor minds, but, like, in the situation that Caresha was in, who would dede I'm at.
Santana
But even outside of that, you know what? You know why was mad? Because whatever. Whatever allegedly he did before we became and came. And I remember when. When we first. When she first we used to laughing like this old man Christian, how you bump into Diddy?
Drea Nicole
Yeah. Like, oh, y'all was like, laughing because.
Santana
He was laughing at him. Yes. He used to call her a queen.
Lex P
Not grand rising queen.
Santana
Yes. We used to be like, ew. It was just so funny. But he treated her so good. Yeah, he treated her so good. And he was still dating other women. Like, when she first started talking to him and he was honest about it, he's like, yeah, you know, I got other lowest names, but my girl ain't playing. My girl sitting in the paint and she watched everybody. I said, girl, ain't nobody but you left, babe. But was mad because that wasn't her experience.
Drea Nicole
Mm.
Santana
He never put. First of all, Caresha has been through domestic violence twice, so that's not even something that she plays with at all. He never plays hands on her. Even. I remember she got so mad trying to sell that card game. Do you like, go to showers? And she said, yeah. And I remember her mama cussed her out.
Drea Nicole
For real?
Santana
Yes. Why? She was like, girl, what the is you talking about? And Caresha have never had a golden shower. She just. I'm on my show. Let's make a viral moment. Yeah, I did. Because it's best sell my card game. You know what I'm saying? But I can honestly say, even like being around, he was so loving to her and he treated her so nice and so well. And I.
Lex P
He just had no idea.
Santana
Whatever that he could have done before.
Drea Nicole
It didn't give that it wasn't there with her.
Santana
I didn't see that. I wasn't in no mother freak offs. I wasn't forced into no mother drugs. I don't know. I was. Y'all seen how we was living.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
I was happy. I was having a ball.
Drea Nicole
Santana, they were saying you was with him. They was saying that.
Santana
Do you know. Do you know how much she was your beard. Do you know how much they used to pee? Pissed me off.
Drea Nicole
They will. I. I never believed it, but I know Santana seen it.
Santana
That's why I asked. I used to be on YouTube. Like, ew. I'm like, first of all, I don't even mother play that.
Lex P
We ain't doing that.
Santana
We ain't doing that.
Lex P
Okay.
Santana
We ain't doing that. And caresha ain't with nothing. That's gay, baby. She don't even play that.
Lex P
Okay.
Santana
Period. So it was just like. I'm just like. And that affected me. I'm like, that's corny. I don't. Why y'all saying that? I'm my best friend. Like, come on, what is we doing?
Drea Nicole
I'm special, T. Like, yeah, but I'm not. I would with you.
Santana
Yeah, but I'm not. I'm not my best friend.
Lex P
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Santana
Cause I get out here, so I don't want to talk about. I'm not giving it.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Lex P
Like the aftermath and the backlash she got because you are still wrapped up in that drama. You in academics that started. Cause you were taking up for her.
Santana
Yeah.
Lex P
And like, you was willing to take the bullet because you like, she not a. But I am. You know what I'm saying?
Santana
I always been right.
Lex P
So how do you feel about. Like, you kind of like her. I don't wanna say bodyguard, but in that situation, she has men with mics. We all know how men with mics, they be like, oh, put the mics away. So men with mics were so powerful and they were so vocal about her. But I think a lot of the backlash she got was because how she looks. I think when women look a certain way, things are harder on them, especially as a black woman. Cause I think. And I wanna be careful with my words here. But I do wanna say I think a lot of the backlash caresha thought got was because you a hood from Miami. You not supposed to be on a.
Santana
Yacht living this life.
Lex P
So it was like, how dare you have the audacity to dream this big or do this big?
Santana
Even when people used to be like, aha, you thought she was up here. That girl is paid.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
The deals that she signs, baby. Caresha go and buy brand new cars and don't even post them for y'all to see.
Lex P
Right.
Santana
That's for my best friend.
Lex P
Right Quick period.
Santana
This gonna buy crocodiles and all this other. Don't even post it.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Lex P
So do you feel like she handled the situation like she was supposed to?
Santana
I feel like. I feel like she could have been more vocal, but that is just caresha. Yeah, y'all. I gotta prove to y'all. I think what you want If I. Whatever I say. When we did the interview, everybody got so mad. I said, how are y'all mad at her about that?
Drea Nicole
They were mad cause they felt like she didn't say enough.
Santana
I'm the truth. No, y'all mad at. Y'all mad at her. Truth.
Lex P
Yeah. Okay.
Santana
Y'all mad because y'all wanted to say he beat me. No, he didn't. Sorry.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Lex P
It doesn't take away from what he has done and what we have seen.
Drea Nicole
No, you're right. It's like people wanted. People wanted her to say more or.
Santana
People wanted her to have a more fucked up situation. Yeah, people wanted her to say what they wanted to hear.
Drea Nicole
I agree.
Santana
People wanted. People wanted her to say. Because even. Even, Even. It was just so funny. Like, even to this day. And I don't know what he did in the past or whatever the. I don't know. But a lot of that I see was making weird comments. Show was around and then it was show at them parties how that was tweeting. Yes.
Lex P
I mean, we saw what he did and we know what we did. It's there in black and white. Like, we know who this person is at this point.
Santana
Well, I feel like we only saw the video of him at that hotel. All of these other things that people keep saying still to this day is not proven. They keep denying the bail, but nobody's bringing no evidence. Like, it had got to a point where you could wake up and say, diddy did this to me. And it was.
Drea Nicole
And it was setting up friend to be fair. I feel like they're denying the bill. They keep denying the bill because he's a flight risk.
Santana
I mean. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Drea Nicole
Cause he let him free.
Santana
Can like literally go. But even still, when I started seeing people started lying on Caresha and started saying she did, I was like. I said, oh. I said, so this is a trend now.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Lex P
And that's why I said, I'm not gonna lie. I never defended.
Drea Nicole
I think my fortune. She just been associated exactly my issue.
Lex P
Leave Caresha alone.
Santana
Leave her alone. Because now I'm like, oh, it's just a trend. I could say you. Well, since you was the girlfriend, I could say you did this. They put Caresha cousin in it. Somebody said the cousin. Yeah, I remember that. So I don't know, maybe being on our side, it's like, wow.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
And you know how the Internet is. You see a comment a thousand times, you believe it. If I post a picture and 100 comments say I'm ugly, you're gonna be like, oh, he is kind of ugly.
Drea Nicole
I'm gonna start thinking I'm gonna.
Santana
Cause I saw it so much. And so I just felt was just bad because her honest to God, wholehearted truth was not what may have happened to previous women he dated or whatever the. That could have been in the past. The. That she met. I didn't experience that.
Drea Nicole
But I appreciate you for saying that because I feel like you're not trying to be like, oh, that didn't happen.
Lex P
Right.
Drea Nicole
You're like, I don't know what happened.
Santana
We don't know what happened. At the end of the day, we about to. That is his mother 50.
Drea Nicole
Yeah. Yeah.
Santana
You get what I'm saying? So we don't know.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
But I know the. That she dated at his age now. And whatever he might have overcame been through. I don't know. That wasn't her experience.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
And I respect her for being a solid.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
Because you had a lot of people here saying, you need to get that podcast and say he whooped your.
Drea Nicole
No, people was telling her to say that when it didn't happen.
Lex P
Yeah, I would imagine so. Because that's how the industry is.
Santana
Not. And. And not even that verbatim.
Lex P
But they was telling her to, like, monopolize on it, basically.
Santana
You need to. You need to. Basically telling her. You need to say what people want to hear.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Lex P
And I'm not going to lie. I agree with you on that. Because I got into it with my friend about this. I do think they. I don't know. Cause that's your friend. I'm not. So I do think they had a real relationship. But at the time Diddy realize that was a PR move. Diddy is Diddy. Yes, we know that. But he was in the blogs every day when him and Caresha were dating. It was a business move for him. So I think her experience and what she went through is like, okay, this man. Nobody was drinking deleon.
Drea Nicole
You need some more friends?
Santana
No, you good.
Lex P
Nobody was drinking deleon. Let's be honest. Like, we weren't. But, like, you know, she started posting it. It was like she was a walking billboard.
Santana
So I think, like, I think initially, yeah. When he seen Caresha, it was like, okay, this is city girl. She young, hot. Cause it started from pea party. And they took a picture.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
And then the picture went viral. Once he started dating Caresha, he fell in love. But he fell in love.
Lex P
Yeah.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Lex P
It was probably like a PR move at first, but then he really started.
Santana
And I feel like. And I Wouldn't even say it was a PR move. But of course, that's just like you with a. That's a billionaire. I know I'm gonna reap the benefits, right? So I got a lip. Ask any want a lip. Yeah, especially you a billionaire. You a legend. I wanna be a lip. So you know what I'm saying? One hand washed the other, and no.
Drea Nicole
Shade, but it's like he was a billionaire. He was Diddy, but I feel like his name wasn't really circulating.
Lex P
I said it.
Drea Nicole
I was like, diddy.
Lex P
But when he started dating Caresha.
Drea Nicole
Yeah. When he. Miami started dating, it was like, this was all over the blog. We laugh everywhere.
Santana
I told y'all. We used to laugh and be like, oh, my God, this old man, girl. He found him, like, you know what I'm saying? But it was like, yeah, I want him a lit. You know?
Lex P
Okay, let me ask you this. Do you feel like. Cuz I know what she said on the pod. Do you really feel like that relationship is what was like, the ultimate demise of city girls?
Santana
No.
Drea Nicole
You think it was problems before that?
Santana
No, Diddy ain't. Ain't. That wasn't. That wasn't. That. Girls is girls. That's how I just told y'all. Yeah, just stay solid. Girls just. It's girls. And then you gotta think, both of them had it on going on. JT over here with her, she got a rich rock star. She over here with Uzi. Karisha over here with her. Like, JT lived in la. Carisha lived in Miami. They don't go to the studio together. People's style changed up. JT is more Rick Owen and just real emo, edgy. Caresha is very. You know what I'm saying?
Drea Nicole
See through fashion girl.
Santana
Fashion girl. Yeah. Like, and.
Lex P
But.
Santana
And so Caresha just went to JT birthday party yesterday.
Lex P
Okay, I hate to hear that.
Santana
Like, you know, like, we family, right? Them sisters.
Lex P
I ain't gonna lie, though. If Draya moves, you just. I'm coming.
Santana
Yeah, but it's like now that I'm your neighbor. No, if Draya move and with her and you got your. Here.
Lex P
I'm very codependent on her.
Drea Nicole
She obsessed with me.
Santana
This girl is obsessed with me.
Drea Nicole
This girl moved.
Lex P
This girl lives next door.
Drea Nicole
Like, we live in two high rises next door to each other.
Santana
Yeah.
Drea Nicole
She literally lives next door to me.
Lex P
I said, oh, mister, I'm so happy. Oh, I couldn't wait to move next door to you.
Santana
Yes.
Drea Nicole
And I was thinking about. Because I'm about to actually move Next week, like. But I decided to just move, like, some more floors up in my building. But at first I was thinking about moving to her building, and then I.
Lex P
Was like, I'm so happy.
Drea Nicole
You know what?
Lex P
But I have to move in her building when my lease up.
Drea Nicole
I should just stay where I'm at.
Lex P
I'm gonna move into her building when my lease up. Anyway, Every time I walk out to the pool, I be looking up at your window. I'm like, oh, my God, no, she.
Drea Nicole
Be looking at me. I've seen her walk into the pool, and I looked out the window, and I was like, girl, creepy.
Santana
It's real. I love you, girl. That is so funny.
Lex P
There's two people on this earth that I'm obsessed with. It's Dre and my sister.
Santana
That's it. But that's me and Caresha all day.
Drea Nicole
For real.
Santana
You see we sitting here? She always was already calling my phone.
Lex P
What are you doing, girl?
Santana
What Caresha? I just told you. I'm gonna go do a podcast adrea.
Lex P
Don't answer my phone calls. I'll call like, three or four times. She be like, legs, yes.
Santana
Karisha will start texting to say, santana, for real. You ain't here for me, period.
Lex P
Cause I'm finna have a crash out.
Drea Nicole
And that's so up. Cause I can't take no time to myself.
Lex P
No, no.
Santana
Caresha watched my location, cussed me out when I'm at the club. She knows if this. Oh, you at this. It say you at this address. Oh, you at that house. Oh, it say you here. Oh, you at where that work at? Oh, you here. Oh, yeah, you at Tauranga City. Oh, you.
Lex P
But that's good that she has that. I think everybody kind of needs that. I need you, girl.
Drea Nicole
I used to share my location with Lex until one time she said some to me about where I was at, and I was like, you was trying.
Santana
To lie to me.
Drea Nicole
Remove, remove.
Lex P
I was so mad. I checked the rest. I said, cause you tried to lie to me.
Drea Nicole
And that's why. And that's why you don't know where the I'm.
Lex P
I'll go and be like, can I go up to the ninth floor?
Drea Nicole
You never know where I'm at now I don't.
Lex P
It be pissing me off, cuz.
Drea Nicole
I was like, it's getting too creepy.
Lex P
Cuz I said, she said she was leaving. Why is this location still in.
Santana
Still right here. Thank you, us.
Drea Nicole
Don't play with me like, no, what's up, y'all?
Lex P
It's your girl xp and it's your.
Drea Nicole
Girl Dre and Nicole.
Lex P
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Lex P
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Drea Nicole
We didn't even get into the sex topic. So now it's time to get into the bed bow. The bed Bow.
Santana
Okay.
Drea Nicole
Bow, Bow, bow, Bow, bow.
Lex P
So we have been on this train of talking about like.
Drea Nicole
Have you on a train of that?
Lex P
We have. So the clip we just posted today that Shay told us accept we were talking about bussies. We talked about bussies with super. But I want to kind of talk about something different. Cause I feel like a lot of times since we've been talking about like, you know, the gay topics and things like that, we gonna get into the. Don't get into it. But I do wanna ask, is it offensive when like straight women or people be like asking men if they're like a top or a bottom. Like, is that like something that's like rude, offensive? It's not.
Santana
No.
Lex P
So you talking about them since you said it's not offensive.
Santana
I don't really. I don't really like to. I don't really like. I wouldn't really say the, the I don't get into the label thing.
Lex P
Okay.
Santana
I feel like. Okay, this is the thing. Cause I'm. I don't give a. Okay, let's see who is I would in a relationship. Like I would be the bottom.
Lex P
Okay.
Santana
But I don't like to get.
Lex P
So how you bottom exactly.
Santana
But nine times out of ten I don't want to talk either. Cause you a man.
Lex P
So you like manly men.
Santana
Yeah, like I like like my. But you know what I'm saying. I'm grown now. So all gay boys got a little sissy in them. Everybody. My ex boyfriend D used to wear purses and wear like put like little natural makeup on. Zell used to have blonde dress to his mother. Everybody gay.
Lex P
Yeah.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
But I look at my as my man. My man, my man. So ideally I don't want to you in your. But I don't feel like all that. It hurt too bad.
Lex P
Oh my God. We was just talking about that.
Drea Nicole
But Santana, I just talked about this on the last episode.
Santana
I'm like a oracle.
Lex P
Okay, okay. That's what I was asking. So you're more of like the oral pleaser like you all day but you don't like doing the bending.
Santana
No, girl, I will.
Lex P
If you have to.
Santana
Yes. I mean I will. I will.
Lex P
Do you remember a long time ago when somebody had like an only fans video and it looked like you?
Santana
Uh huh. Girl. I had a heart attack.
Lex P
Oh my God.
Drea Nicole
Cause I thought it was you for real.
Lex P
I thought it was him.
Santana
I didn't think it was me, but I was so.
Lex P
Look at that beating them lashes outline.
Santana
You know what was so funny though? That was me and Caresha first like big fallout.
Drea Nicole
Oh wow.
Lex P
Over that. Over that video.
Santana
Over that video. I felt I was JT too. It was all of us. Because I was so mad that everybody thought that was me.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
I had just signed the rca. I didn't know what they was gonna think. Cause that was viral.
Lex P
It was.
Santana
You could google that.
Lex P
Yes.
Santana
I was like, oh my God. I just signed to a major label. They finna think I'm a porn star like. And then started disrespecting me.
Drea Nicole
Yeah, yeah.
Santana
I could go for a cute you think or whatever the case is. But you bad little started getting the DMs. Like yeah, I wanna fill you up.
Lex P
Like just being real vulgar.
Santana
And I'm like, excuse me, I'm gonna play that.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
Who the is you talking to?
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
So I was so just. I was disgusted about that. And here go caresha there. Tanner, you throwing that back? I'm not trying to now there's no way. Everybody don't believe it's me. Cause my best friend is on here hyping being funny.
Lex P
Okay, I'm sorry. That's not funny. But it is.
Santana
I could have that. Oh, my God. We stopped talking about. I think we, we stopped talking and then we started back. Cause it was Daddy's birthday. She invited me to her birthday party. That's how we started being friends.
Lex P
How y'all doing?
Santana
I was like, girl, I custom. I was real mad. I was so mad. Cause first of all, I done playing cameras in the bedroom. I'm famous.
Lex P
I know that's right. That remind me of that video. And I fumble, but you was like, I'm famous.
Santana
Yes. And that was even before. I'm here now. Cause you anything we doing in here, I promise you it's gonna live right here.
Drea Nicole
Definitely got videos of me.
Santana
I promise you it's gonna live. And see. I don't know. Gays get a little malicious. Malicious sometimes.
Lex P
Did y'all see? Yeah, they do. I'm not gonna get into this.
Santana
You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, anything we do in the bedroom, I'm starving. You gotta remember. You gonna remember right here.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
I didn't even record.
Lex P
So why did you and JT fall out then?
Santana
Because jt, it was something. JT was in the comments too. Like you were serving. Everybody just was making jokes. I'm not laughing, but everybody was just making jokes about it. And I was. So you was mad. And then I was on the Internet, I was fighting the Internet. I said, I got a tattoo on my hip. Go look at the video. He don't have no tattoos on his hip.
Lex P
Watching it, I was like, oh, that's not him. Once you like reading it, that's not him.
Santana
I'm like, look at his nails. What have y'all don't know what my real fingernails look like. You never see me in no nails.
Drea Nicole
So I'm play that, please.
Lex P
Sorry.
Santana
I said if we be him honest. I don't even take who that was in the video. I, I, I know, I know the, the top in the video.
Lex P
Okay, but you don't.
Drea Nicole
Oh, you know him for real, huh?
Santana
That's so. You know what? I played so many games, I started talking to the top you after. Uh huh.
Drea Nicole
Santana, goodbye.
Santana
Cause what if he would've I started talking to the top, then the video.
Drea Nicole
Would have been real.
Santana
Because. No, you know what? You know what made me respect him though? The top actually came out and this didn't go viral because love drama don't.
Lex P
Love the truth, of course.
Santana
Love a negative narrative. The who was in the video? That was. The boy was like, that's not Santana. He said, actually, this is my video. Somebody stole off my Snapchat. That's me. My ex.
Lex P
The tea is hot.
Santana
And so I retweeted him. I re shared. Hey, everybody, look at this tweet, right? Want to hear it?
Lex P
That was you. They wanted to see you throwing that.
Santana
I did not want to hear it.
Lex P
Oh, my God.
Santana
I remember this gay boy retweeted. I was like, where does Shisha Looking for a thief named Keisha. Girl, I could have him. They was with me. They was. I remember that. They were. And the boy was like, that's me. And I was like, I appreciate you for being a real. Cause you ain't even have to clear that up.
Lex P
And then you was like, hey, boo kids.
Santana
I have you say, hey, daddy girl. Next thing I know, we was in LA and stuff, but girl, yeah, okay, so.
Drea Nicole
So no. So you don't be liking to. Okay, so, Santana, then what? You just like, even head.
Santana
That's it, Girl, I did not say that.
Lex P
You did say that.
Santana
Yes, you did.
Lex P
You said. I never had.
Drea Nicole
You said you don't like and you don't like. You said you like it.
Lex P
Oh, so you like getting it?
Drea Nicole
Oh, you like getting ore you a little freak. Cause you was like, holding that baby dog.
Santana
Nah, I will eat a bird, though. But what's that? You got me eat a what? You know what's so funny? You know the type of.
Drea Nicole
I get what?
Santana
And I love me. I get pleasers.
Drea Nicole
Oh, okay.
Lex P
So that's good for you. That works.
Santana
It works for me. I get.
Lex P
You are like a pillow princess.
Santana
You do. Yes.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
Okay. It gets that I get pleasers, but I'm so thick. I do get. I be like, girl, you're getting.
Lex P
Yeah, wanna see that.
Santana
What you talking about?
Drea Nicole
Yeah, but you say you don't like it. Cause it hurt.
Santana
I don't. I don't give up.
Lex P
That busy. Right One.
Drea Nicole
But it hurt. We talked about this.
Santana
Yeah, no, I will. He gonna give up.
Lex P
He goes in as wifey. He said that.
Santana
And you know what I like? I like. But boyfriend.
Lex P
What's that? Oh, you like making love?
Santana
No. Y'all know boyfriend.
Lex P
Boyfriend, then making love.
Drea Nicole
That's what I thought.
Santana
Boyfriend is the size.
Drea Nicole
Boyfriend.
Lex P
So big. Definitely not boyfriend. That's not already. No, I done had big.
Santana
And you are not a boyfriend.
Drea Nicole
Yes, boyfriend is a little.
Santana
Yes. 7, 8, 9, 8.
Drea Nicole
What's the name? Okay, is huge.
Santana
Yeah. 7, 8, 6. Between 6 and 8.
Lex P
Okay, that's fair. I've never heard that, but that makes sense. Cause I'm the same. Like, the man I marry is gonna have an average.
Santana
I could surf. I could ride hula hoop or I'm Hawaiian big.
Lex P
I do not like that.
Santana
Girthy and all that. Hey, baby.
Drea Nicole
I prefer Hawaiian.
Santana
Girl, you breaking me down, so.
Lex P
Oh, my God. I never heard that term boyfriend.
Santana
I like boyfriend.
Lex P
I like boyfriend. I do. I do not like a big, meaty, girthy. Like sometimes I be having to get, like a boyfriend.
Santana
You could get. You could.
Lex P
You could.
Santana
Yeah.
Lex P
We can have a good time.
Santana
Yes, I can.
Lex P
Turn a cartwheel.
Santana
Yes, I can.
Drea Nicole
Quaint line.
Santana
Y'all know who falls. I know. Yeah, I know. That s off. You can have fun with a boyfriend. So that's why I'm like, girl, Imagine just already tight as. It just ain't.
Lex P
Don't get busy tight.
Santana
I ain't even built.
Lex P
Yes, some bussy not tight.
Santana
Yeah, that's the. That be getting wo out.
Lex P
But that's what I'm saying. All busies are not created.
Santana
I don't play that now.
Drea Nicole
I feel like all busies are created equal. He's right, though. It be the ones that be getting worn out.
Santana
Like, your bussy ain't every time get in here. He say.
Drea Nicole
When they get in there, not when they get in there.
Lex P
You be talking about your be wet period.
Santana
I gotta.
Drea Nicole
Okay, so we gotta talk about that. I said that do get wet.
Santana
I would say get wet. It start. It starts C. When? First of all, if you. If you as a gay boy, you need to use lubricant. I don't want to hear no at saying that. They just wake up all that. Girl. No, it's not okay. You need some lube.
Lex P
Use that lube.
Drea Nicole
Gotta use a little something.
Lex P
Okay, okay, that's fair.
Santana
You need some lube.
Lex P
Okay. But do y'all do. What's it called when they clean out the booty hole? What is that called?
Santana
Yeah, a lot of gay boys do that.
Lex P
They dush the booty hole. So you're supposed to do that. Cause you don't wanna paint the town.
Santana
Yeah, a lot of gay boys do it. When I first started, I didn't used to do that. So what would you do? Because I didn't. I didn't. I ain't know nothing about that. I come to my hallways to tell me, but I was like, what is that? But I just always, like, either went to, like, you know, use a bathroom or something before, you know? And I never had no problem, but.
Lex P
I guess I always get afraid of the residuals.
Santana
I never. Nope. I never had. I could call him.
Lex P
Okay.
Santana
I never had no residues. I never had no nothing.
Drea Nicole
So what be happening when people be on theyself? Cause I agree. I've done. We talked about this with Super. That's why when you was like, it. I feel like it hurt on insertion. I said that. But I feel like once they get in there, it feels once they get.
Santana
In there and the stroke starts serving, it do feel good. But that's how you need a boyfriend for that.
Lex P
Yeah. That's a boyfriend activity.
Drea Nicole
Okay, but what do you think be, like, happening when girls be like.
Santana
Or.
Drea Nicole
Or too be like, cheating on theyself?
Santana
Because that just be big. It go deep.
Lex P
It go to you. And the intestines hitting it wrong.
Santana
Yes. Arteries and stuff.
Lex P
And arteries is.
Santana
Girl, you hitting the wrong arteries and all that. And a. Probably ain't good. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Drea Nicole
Oh, my God. Or she probably ate some Chipotle. That's what I was about to say.
Lex P
I eat Chipotle. So we going to have another. Okay. Okay. Okay. So let's move on. Let's move on. Okay, so now.
Santana
Oh, my God. Wait. He. It's messy here. I know that. Y'all good.
Lex P
Let me tell you. Javi has been with us. This is light work to them.
Santana
They are worse.
Lex P
They done heard words. They done been to our live shows and everything.
Santana
They all right.
Drea Nicole
They done seen it all.
Lex P
They all right.
Santana
But do you. But.
Lex P
Cause I will say that you're very aware, so. Cause, like, when you did College Hill, you were, like, very aware of, like, you know, not wanting to make people feel uncomfortable and make them feel comfortable.
Santana
But I'm still be myself.
Lex P
You're gonna still be yourself. So how do you navigate those areas when you're, like, with straight men who were like, hold on, bruh. Hold on, bruh. Like, how do you do that?
Santana
So, you know, I used to, like, really be in the trap. I used to, like, really sell drugs and stuff. You did?
Drea Nicole
Mm.
Santana
And so I was around. I did. So I was a real hood. My name was my. Before it was. That's how I got the name Santana.
Drea Nicole
Oh.
Santana
One of my. One of my. Like, you know how you got, like, in the hood, you got your cousins. He wasn't my real cousin, but, like, my cousin. Nah, this is not Navy Thea. This is my cousin. I don't know if she knows before we answer that, too, but no, my cousin, his name was Rico Montana.
Lex P
Okay.
Drea Nicole
Okay.
Santana
Like, that was his little trapped name. So I was like, that's served. I was like, y'all want me a little trapped little name or whatever? So I was like, okay, mine's gonna be Santana. And so it was. My first name was Sissy Santana. And so how you came up with Saucy? My cousin gave me Saucy.
Drea Nicole
Okay.
Santana
So it was Sissy Santana. And I used to. I was. This is back in my trap days, but I was kind of Facebook. I always been. Everybody always loved me.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
So I was kind of like Facebook popular. So I remember one day, me and my cousin, we was going to pick up. I was going. We was riding Madison. That's what my plug was, which. I'm going to pick up my little stuff. And we finna go to some. And we stopped at City Trends. So we at City Trends. The girl was like, oh, my God. Hey, Sissy.
Drea Nicole
And you was like, did you look.
Lex P
At her like that?
Santana
I said, what? She was like, no, you Sissy Santana. I was like, oh. I said, baby, you have to say the whole.
Lex P
The whole thing.
Santana
Like how you the stallion. I said, you gotta say the whole thing.
Lex P
So I call her Meg. Cause that's my sister.
Santana
Yeah, but you know, like, you. But you gotta say the whole. I need the whole day.
Lex P
Yeah, okay.
Santana
And that day I was like, I don't like that. I don't even like how that made me feel.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
And so one day.
Drea Nicole
Cause you was ready to square up.
Santana
Yeah. And so one day. You know what I'm saying, We was finna go to the club. She was like, hey, Sissy.
Lex P
You was like, pop up, bop.
Santana
I'm like, out of the house. Said what?
Drea Nicole
She was like, we was ready to fight you Sissy Santana from Facebook.
Santana
I was like, oh, you right, girl.
Drea Nicole
I say, I.
Santana
So we was finna get ready to go to the club one day, and my cousin was like, ooh, you saucy.
Lex P
So it just stuck.
Santana
I said, oh, that's cute.
Drea Nicole
Cause you could call me saucy without the Santana.
Lex P
Yeah, we can say Saucy.
Santana
Yeah. I said, I could be Saucy Santana. I grew up around. Now, even before my trap days, I grew up around.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
And then being in the trap, something talking something, something.
Lex P
I heard something.
Drea Nicole
Please try again.
Santana
Oh, Siri e dropped on the.
Drea Nicole
She being nosy.
Santana
So just even being around. And I always. I'm mean to boys because always ditto. Oh.
Lex P
He was looking at me like, you're not even my type. You're not even attractive.
Santana
Almost every that I'm cool with, they embraced me first.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
I don't even speak.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
You could never say, oh, that punk tried to. What? I said, what up? You straight? Yeah. All right. And that's that. That's why me, Carlos and me, Carlos and Nick was together, y'all, we were the closest.
Lex P
Like when y'all. When you and Nick was. And then Carlos was like, hey, man.
Santana
We was known as. And then we was the bros.
Lex P
Cause why.
Drea Nicole
But Carlos is a cool though. Like, he really is.
Lex P
He wasn't like. I think one thing about Carlos is he's been around in the industry. So he's been around like.
Santana
No, Carlos was spooked that part.
Lex P
He was.
Santana
Yes.
Drea Nicole
You think so?
Santana
Yes.
Lex P
What he said.
Drea Nicole
But when you say spook, he was.
Santana
He didn't. He didn't. He didn't say nothing. You just don't know what I'm gonna give.
Lex P
Okay. Yeah, yeah.
Santana
You see these interviews? Like. Like, imagine finna judge me out this interview right here. Never met me, Right?
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Lex P
Because they be going and sparking on somebody and doing these long ass everything.
Santana
He ain't know what's gonna give. Ain't know what I respect about Carlos. This is my highlight. I don't think they aired this. This is my favorite part because this is a full circle moment. Every time I have homeboys. He was like, you a real.
Drea Nicole
But they didn't ear that.
Lex P
Yeah.
Drea Nicole
I was like, that's real.
Santana
Of course not. I said, why you say that? He was like, cuz. He was like, you yourself. He was like, but you know how to carry yourself.
Lex P
Yeah, you don't do too much.
Santana
He was like. You know how? He was like. And you still you. My. You still you. If you want to go upstairs and come out that with a two piece and skirt on or whatever, you still gonna do that, but.
Lex P
Cause your pajamas you had on.
Santana
You was. I was so mad. They showed me and my mother.
Drea Nicole
They did.
Santana
I said, bt, y'all too messy. They were showing baby that we had it at. I see thick red brown, hello, thick named Keisha.
Lex P
But I do remember, like. Cause when Carlos got back, I remember I caught. Cause I was like. I told him how proud I was of him. I think that he did a good job of like representing him his brand. Like, he didn't. He was Carlos.
Santana
Yes.
Lex P
And he went on there arguing with the instructor. And people took it as him being ignorant, but he was telling how he felt.
Santana
Carlos smart as hell.
Lex P
He is smart as hell.
Santana
And with him being older he wise. Like, he wise, right? Carlos is Carlos.
Lex P
That homeless thing that they was eating him up about. He was right. Why don't the government. He wasn't Carlos.
Santana
To me, Carlos was unk. Like Carlos like one of your. All the in the hood you respect. Like, that's unknown.
Lex P
And then like when I called Carlos after I was like giving him his flowers and I was like. I was like, oh, you need to reach out to Santana. Cause we don't have him on the show. He's like, man. He's like, man, cool. He said that about you? I was like, oh, it must have been like. Cause I saw it on the show. But you never really knows what goes on behind closed doors.
Drea Nicole
But I feel like Santana give that though. Like, I feel like. Like people already have this perception of gay men where they. Especially if you're like a flamboyant gay man, they'll. They'll feel like, oh, I don't want to be around him. Cause he going to make me feel uncomfortable or he going to try me X, Y and Z. But to me, everything about you just gives. I'm me. I'm going to be myself. I'm not about to try to force myself on you. I'm not about to try to with you. Just because I'm who I am. It doesn't mean you got to be worried about me trying to with you. Just because you with.
Lex P
And you always gave main character.
Santana
Yeah, but that's how I got a lot of respect in the industry. When I first started rapping, you know. Of course, see, when they like, whoa. Like.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
You know what I'm saying? I remember it used to be boys and stuff. Karisha go around. They used to be like, you know, I'm. They home. I'm. You know, they gay friends. So they don't want to say it, but it's like we going with the.
Drea Nicole
Rich, but you can't come, you know?
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
And so I'm like, okay. Like, I didn't care. Cause I know how be so it is what it is. But once we started being in certain places and you know what I'm saying was around me started being like, oh, that cool. And then even when we talking, I know all now.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
We could talk drugs, we could talk gangs. We could talk like, what you want to talk about? We could do the whole thing. I remember Gucci, man, my favorite rapper. My manager took me to his concert for my birthday and shout out to Reese. Reese got me on stage with Gucci. And so when I first got up there, I had on a black Balenciaga 2P sweatshirt suit. My big yellow Rick on Shay, my yellow Chanel bag, my mother makeup done, my mother nails, Jim Santana. And all the hood up there, Zone six, all the rappers, they looking like, what the we got on that stage. I rap every Gucci mane song for word is like. I started seeing like, yeah, okay. I'm like, yeah, what y'all thought this was? Yeah, y'all thought I was gonna get up here and bust into a split? No, I'm a trap.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
A real, real Gucci hat. This is my favorite rapper since I was a teenager. What we talking about? Yeah. So it's like, you know what I'm saying? But I'm always just being myself.
Lex P
Right, Right. You're not doing too much.
Santana
I do feel like I can't take accountability for us as gays. Sometimes we do. We have our gays that get around.
Drea Nicole
I want to stop uncomfortable.
Santana
Horny. I wanna. And it's like, yeah, relax, girl.
Lex P
Cuz I'm not gonna lie.
Drea Nicole
But most of my experiences don't. I. I have way less.
Santana
Or you get around. You want to twerk all you just get right. It's like, no, be yourself. Be yourself. If that's how you is right. But it don't take all that.
Lex P
We hate horny people. We always talk about extremely horny people.
Santana
Oh, yes.
Lex P
Why are you doing that? Cause girls do that too.
Santana
Yeah.
Lex P
So it be on the like, why are you always talking about, like, why.
Drea Nicole
Are you always so sexual?
Lex P
So before we move on, I do want to ask you, do you feel like candy was coming at you? Because you be in these, like, spaces and you are easily more accepted. You feel like that's what it was. Jealous jealousy. Because I know that wasn't the first part.
Santana
Another thing that we have in our community is mad it ain't them.
Drea Nicole
Okay, well, speak on it. You own the something.
Santana
You know what I'm saying? That's one thing I love about Big Sexy so much.
Lex P
I love Big Sexy.
Santana
I love Big Sexy. I have never seen that. And one thing about me, I see comments. When negative stuff is posted about me in the blogs. I go through the like.
Lex P
Yep.
Santana
Who like to comment. Everything. I see everything. Big Sexy. I never found that bitch doing anything shady. No comment.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
But even if you say something bad about me, Big Sexy, I'm following y'all same. That's what you have about me.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
And so gays, we have a thing where everybody want to be mother.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
Everybody want to be the it girl. Everybody. You Know, And I feel like in my career ever since I came out. Walk Him Like a Dog Is the video full of gay Cherry? The boom was in the. I had Cherry the boom in the main scene with Suki and Camellia. She was one of the main girls in there. All of the dancers was trans cunt girls and feminine gay boys. I had C.J. the trainer on top of the thing. C.J.
Lex P
The trainer be shaking that.
Santana
I had him on the top of the truck twerking. I have poetic drugs.
Lex P
He do man. What that can really dance.
Santana
This was Walk Him Like a Dog, my first video. This is how I came out the gate. My video. You ain't from a hula hoop on the. I'm Hawaiian. Have you ever seen the music videos of that?
Lex P
Have I.
Santana
The music video was. At the end of the music video. It say, black trans lives matter.
Lex P
Yes, yes.
Santana
Black gay boy lives matter. Everything I do is for my community.
Lex P
Right, right, right.
Santana
And so really, the encounter that made Candy not like me was because we was in the club. She had a manager at the time, and the manager asked. Cause she sit with me. I said no.
Lex P
Why did you say.
Drea Nicole
Why did you say no? Sentinel Girl.
Santana
I'm the type of person. I like to be around me and my people.
Lex P
Okay, that's fair. We talk about bound. We've talked about bounds.
Santana
We did Caresha. No, I hate going out with Caresha for her birthdays and reaching roulette parties and stuff. Eel is 50 years into. I be like, y'all need to go.
Drea Nicole
Yeah, it's too many people.
Santana
Bye. She know I'm leaving the party. See you tomorrow. Call me.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
When I go outside. I'm a Libra. I'm a. I'm. I'm a popular loner. I would be in the club. I would be in the club looking so weird with me and my security. I got a big. I got a big station, 20 people. I don't order two bottles. It's me and my security. Everybody's looking like you weird. Y'all got this big section. Two, three bottles. There's three of y'all in here. So I don't want to be around nobody.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
I want to vibe with my people.
Lex P
Okay.
Drea Nicole
I'm drunk.
Santana
I can say what I want to. Nobody take nothing out of context.
Lex P
You don't got to worry about somebody recording you.
Santana
Yes. Nobody ain't take nothing out of context. You record ugly videos of me growing, sucking my stomach and stuff.
Lex P
Move.
Santana
I just don't feel like that.
Lex P
Yeah. And I'm not at work okay, that's fair.
Santana
When I'm at work, when I'm at a show, when I'm at. When I'm at a festival or something, I post to engage and stuff. And it's no shame. And actually, because I ride for my people, I got onto her manager at the time. I said, hey, I said, when you got him coming outside, coming outside, that's your client. You call the club Atlanta humble you. They don't care who you is, but you know, I'm that girl. So I don't get humbled in Atlanta. Wherever I pull up, say, santana, move, move, move. Start the show, period. But you know what I'm saying? I was telling her manager at the time, I'm like, hey. I'm like, when shorty coming outside, you need to tell them, hey, I got my client. He was on Love and Hip Hop Hollywood. He's on wild'n out currently. He's of a stature. He has status. Can we set him up a section?
Lex P
Also, when she asked to sit with you, she was trying to find somewhere for him to sit.
Santana
Yeah. His manager was trying to find somewhere for him to sit. Cause the club was sold out or whatever the case was. It wasn't no section for him.
Lex P
Okay.
Santana
And I got like. I mean, it's no shade. I. I don't feel like all that. But, hey, you. His representation, make sure he represented when he outside.
Lex P
Yeah.
Drea Nicole
Okay.
Lex P
I didn't know that's how it started.
Santana
That's what it was.
Lex P
Okay.
Santana
So then that just turned into okay. I don't know if you think. I think I'm bad. I think I'm better than you. I think I would have.
Lex P
It was just a lot.
Santana
I don't know. I'm set up and I'm sanctioned.
Lex P
So it was a lot. And I was like, ooh. I just didn't want you to respond. I just didn't. I didn't respond. So I did it. Yeah.
Santana
Cause.
Drea Nicole
But that's good that you did it, because you already knew who I was.
Santana
I did.
Lex P
Yeah, you did.
Santana
I responded in my song Berserk.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
And I responded in Shoot up the club.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
Cause she was like, I'm a lap dog. Or without Caressa them.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
So I said, if a feels tough, she could leapfrog. I'm grown. I could never be a lap dog. I could never be a flunky Never been a floozy. I carried these baby mama coochie. I carry mood and my son Berserk. I'm like, too mad. Cause they can't get in the party. That's why you was. That's why you pissed off she was mad. Cause you getting in my section.
Lex P
Okay.
Santana
Beat me. Rappers of Feed me beats can't clock me. Autumn made this piece. I'm a hot girl giving 500 degrees ready to pop it on you. You don't want this grease and you ain't got this thieves can't drop my flow, gotta stay behind the scenes. This is not your show. Dry no glow, you know came first of all me, I'm the one. Uno, you got some captions.
Drea Nicole
One, you got some captions.
Santana
So I gave it back.
Lex P
You ate.
Santana
I gave it back to you. Cause I don't know. I think she thinks she like a battle basement rapper. I know how to rap.
Lex P
Yeah.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
But my hits are more. Let me see you walk. Walk like TikTok, sucky, arrogant. Yes. Those are my hits.
Lex P
Yeah, I can really.
Santana
But if we want to pull out a pen, we can do that.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Lex P
Can we go to the studio?
Santana
Yes.
Lex P
I can't rap or I can't.
Santana
But my only thing was, what was corny about it was what was corny about it was like, you paying the blogs to post, like, oh, I'm like, it's not even giving. I'm like, you gotta pay the blogs to post your dis. For somebody to even pay attention to care.
Lex P
Cause that's how I saw it. That's how I.
Santana
You know what I'm saying? It's like, girl. Ooh, tomatoes.
Lex P
I'm sorry, Santana. I don't mean to interrupt you. You got something to say?
Santana
Okay.
Lex P
She mad. Cause I want to go to every time somebody sit on the couch.
Drea Nicole
I'm not mad. I'm not mad. Santana.
Santana
What?
Drea Nicole
She always ask everybody that come on the show that somebody gonna take me to the studio. Can y'all go to the studio?
Santana
Get it off your chest.
Drea Nicole
And I'm not saying. But I be like, but what are you gonna do in the studio?
Santana
But you know what? I'm sorry. See what? Like, in a body of work, she could be a skit. She could be an out.
Lex P
She has been a skit. Y'all better look up Maxo Cream album. I've been on a skit.
Drea Nicole
We have been on Mexo Cream.
Santana
Or you gonna be on an outro.
Drea Nicole
See, but she be talking about being in the studio on the song. But you'll be surprised.
Santana
Just gonna go in there and say whatever, and you'll be surprised. Off of a 4 bar, I can say, oh, I'm gonna slice this up in Here and now. I gotta hit it. You on it.
Lex P
I'm getting myself.
Santana
Please. It's giving balls. I'm on the outro. See, she sent me the song. I was like, what you want to do? She said, just sell out.
Lex P
Just talk.
Santana
I was like, okay, y'all, I'm eating lamb chops to your favorite lamb chop.
Lex P
I love it.
Drea Nicole
What does she say?
Santana
Just talking.
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Lex P
So since we speaking of music, now it's time to get into the bop.
Santana
Hey, the bop.
Drea Nicole
Bow, bow, bow, bow, bow, bow.
Lex P
So the bop is our music that we've been jamming this week.
Santana
So what you been.
Lex P
Oh, my God, y'all. Wiz Kid dropped the album.
Santana
We did. Wiz kid? Oh, my God.
Lex P
No, not like, I love Wiz Kids.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Lex P
Oh, my. Oh, my God. He dropped an album. He got this song with Jasmine Sullivan called Bad for your. And when we talk about vocalists, y'all need to stop leaving Jasmine Sullivan out these conversations.
Santana
No, that don't play no games.
Lex P
11 years old, you can see her on Apollo.
Drea Nicole
A real singer.
Lex P
A real singer?
Santana
Yes.
Lex P
Like, sometimes when she sings, I'll be like, oh, my God, is that me or Jasmine? I can't tell sometimes.
Santana
Oh, for real? Tell her the.
Drea Nicole
Tell them to sing.
Santana
I'm scared.
Drea Nicole
Go on. Here, Liz, go ahead.
Santana
Sit down. Don't do that.
Lex P
Did y'all go see Wicked? No.
Santana
Oh, my God.
Lex P
I can't even have a Wicked moment. Girl, I am obsessed with Wicked. So, you know, we took that picture at the Media Girls event, and I had on red, and you had on green. They was calling us Glinda. And Elphaba.
Santana
Oh, my God.
Lex P
But in the movie, I want to be Alphabet.
Drea Nicole
I was Elphaba.
Lex P
Yes, you was Alphabet.
Drea Nicole
That's fine, because I think people be thinking I'm the mean one.
Lex P
Oh, facts. Yeah, you should be Alpha, but I should be Glenda.
Santana
Who's the mean one?
Lex P
Glenda is like, in real life.
Drea Nicole
You not.
Lex P
No, Dre is a nice one.
Santana
For real. I would thought it was you.
Drea Nicole
I'm nice. It's.
Lex P
I got humbled because I thought I was a nice one. Till we asked everybody. They was like, lex is the. Yeah, yeah.
Drea Nicole
Now she mad cuz everybody in the room.
Lex P
That's why I ain't talk to nobody today. I said, hello, staff.
Santana
But, yeah, I.
Drea Nicole
Am who y'all say I am, y'all.
Santana
Oh, my God.
Lex P
Okay.
Drea Nicole
But now in real life, I'm the nice one. She's the mean one. But I think people be thinking I'm the mean one.
Lex P
Ooh, Speaking of bops, Santana, why you was twerking at Tupac?
Santana
Oh, my God. You know what's so funny? Let me tell y'all the mother is crazy. Let me tell y'all the mother today. And you know what? And you know what? That's why I love me. And I just feel like you being yourself. You can't get mother answered. Cause I must have been gone after that.
Drea Nicole
No, you wasn't, though. Cause I don't think it was on purpose.
Santana
No, this is why I did it. This was during Black Lives Matter. It was. And it was me and Cliff and our friends. Yeah. We had. When it did our signs. Yeah. Put on our black. I think Chris, Cliff had gave me a Max, Malcolm X, Kofy. We had an all black everything. I said all lives matter on my side.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
Because everything I do, I do for the gays. Yeah.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
And so I know so many black transgenders that are dead. Nobody cares. Nobody solves the mystery. I know so many black gay boys that go home and commit suicide because they bullied at school, they've been kicked out by their parents, they not loved at home, they ridiculed for being gay. And so I'm coming from a place of if all black lives matter, don't forget about the gay ones. Apparently, all lives matters was some white people that I ain't gonna hold drama hood. Y'all don't be in politics like that.
Lex P
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Santana
I said, I don't know if maybe I should have said all black lives matter. Yeah, I should have put the black in there. Yeah. Okay, so. And then maybe they help My poster was white or something, so I don't know. All I know is I'm on the Internet trying to take up for the gays.
Lex P
You should've put. At least. If you put All Lives Matter, it should have been like a rainbow flag on it or something.
Santana
Okay.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
So I got cussed out, and I was like, I'm talking about mother gays. I'm talking about the gays. I said. I said, black lives matter. I said, when these transges die, y'all say, da, da, da, da, da. That's what they get. They're freaks. Should never trick nobody. Nobody cares when that young black gay boy go home and commit suicide. Cause he bullied every day at school. His mama don't believe him, and nobody there for them. Nobody cares. Yeah, I was one. I didn't never think of committing suicide. But I remember in school getting jumped by boys. Cause I was gay. I remember getting gay bash, and I just always been a strong. But I'm just coming from an LGBT standpoint. So I said, well, you know what? Y'all need to change our mother life. You need to change our attitude and change our mother mindsets. I put on my Nike 2 piece, and I cut on Tupac.
Lex P
You was dancing hard. You was like, see?
Santana
No changes. I wake up in the morning, you was twerking Tina. Oh. And I think I have no, you.
Lex P
It was the look on your face. Cause he was like. He wasn't laughing. He wasn't joking. He was like, this.
Santana
My stomach hurts, so I'm looking for a purse to smell. No, he was like, a damn about a deep girl.
Lex P
He was like.
Santana
And, you know, yo, I remember my manager at the time, he was like.
Drea Nicole
Why would you do that?
Lex P
Cause I couldn't believe it either.
Santana
He was like, nah. I said, yes. I ain't deleting. What's up? What up?
Drea Nicole
You didn't delete it, Santana, you was.
Santana
Cutting up videos still live on.
Drea Nicole
Oh, no. It's still every day going viral on Twitter.
Santana
Every now and again, somebody be like, y'all ain't gonna let me forget Santana? I'm like, can y'all just let it go? No, absolutely.
Lex P
Honestly, that was, like, around the COVID time.
Santana
Yeah, it was 2020.
Lex P
So people always. Atlanta people always bring up, do y'all remember Covid? And then they'll post, like, the video of Santana.
Santana
The. I was a part of COVID culture.
Lex P
You were a part of the COVID culture. Cause we was like, santana.
Santana
What?
Drea Nicole
You were the COVID culture.
Santana
I see no changes. That's the problem period. That's just the way it. That's. What's that move? What up?
Lex P
Okay, Dra.
Santana
What you been jamming?
Lex P
What's your bop of the week?
Drea Nicole
Oh my God. So I've been listening to this song. You know we from Houston. So I've been listening to this song. Can't talk, Chasing the chick. It's Paul Wall, Slim Thug and Lil Kiki Real.
Santana
She went very Houston.
Drea Nicole
Oh, I'm very Houston to the day I die. But yeah, it's. It's a. It's a good song.
Santana
Okay.
Drea Nicole
What you been.
Santana
I feel like what happened? Let me look at my thing. Is this. Is this the karaoke part?
Lex P
No karaoke.
Santana
Do you know what song you want to sing? Yeah, I told them that's how I was making sure. I've been listening to. I don't know if y'all know Blakeiana from St. Louis.
Lex P
I don't.
Santana
I heard her song is Made me Horny Ghost. My last he wasn't doing enough for me. It's called Bing Bong. Okay.
Lex P
Okay.
Santana
Kind of sexy red but I listened to Black Kiana and I love Bigger in Texas by Meg Thee Stallion.
Drea Nicole
Yeah, bigger.
Lex P
He looks so good in that video too.
Santana
I put Karisha on that.
Lex P
On the top of my game.
Santana
I put Karisha and I put Mitch on that song. Mitch was like, you always be doing the good tunes. Yeah, I was like. She was popping. Yeah. Up like horses prick like horses Mouth full of diamonds and courses Itty bitty waist I don't need no courses cuz they be sleeping.
Drea Nicole
I think.
Lex P
Because of everything that happened.
Santana
But that can rap that said this about that Ben self made asexual and I'm always on point like a decimal. That's what was I said. Oh yeah. I. I'm about vegan in Texas right now.
Lex P
Oh my God, I'm glad you made that your vibe.
Drea Nicole
We need a song with you Meg and caresha.
Santana
Literally last night somebody just asked me, they said what you doing song? I said yes, that served. Yeah.
Lex P
Megan is that girl and people don't like to give her her thing. Cause like I said I think but come on girl, she can rap. She's real.
Santana
Me and Karisha got freestyle.
Drea Nicole
We known for freestyling in Houston. Like that's what Texas people do. We freestyle.
Santana
That's how I fell in love with Punta Lynn.
Lex P
I love oh Mona Leo.
Santana
She's this big. She's like I slap the out of.
Lex P
And bust you in your face. Oh, she's aggressive.
Santana
Make you eat your cut your tongue out and make you eat it. Oh, my God, she be going crazy. I love her so good.
Lex P
She got a song. I talked about it the other week. She got a song with Sauce Walker. That's so hard.
Santana
Yes.
Lex P
Ken the man just dropped a new song. Shout out to Ken the Man.
Santana
Yes.
Drea Nicole
Yeah. Ken the man be rapping.
Santana
Give. Don't give a. Just a nut. Yes.
Lex P
Oh, my God.
Drea Nicole
The Houston girls be rapping. We used to have this thing in Houston back in the day.
Santana
From Houston, too. Pop it like that.
Drea Nicole
We used to have this thing in the. In Texas back in the day. It was called the Kappa Beach Party. I wonder if y'all had something like that in Florida.
Lex P
It was like a beach party.
Drea Nicole
Everybody used to go. All the black people used to go. Kind of like Freaknick in Atlanta, but we used to have it in Texas about the Kappa Beach Party. All the rappers used to go down there every year. And I used to be rapping freestyling. And they made this song called the Kappa Beach Party freestyle. It's like a legendary song. And what was the other Was flowing crazy.
Lex P
But what was the other Kappa Beach Party song?
Drea Nicole
What you mean going to the Kappa?
Lex P
Oh, it was another one that came out during that time. Oh, it's a brand new dance called the Hooga Hooga. It's a brand. You remember that song that came out during the Kappa tour?
Drea Nicole
I didn't know that was Kappa, though. I thought that was Dallas.
Lex P
No, that was. That was Houston. Hooga Hooga Hooga. Everybody was on. Kiati was on that song. You know, that was a Houston song. But anyways, shout out to the girls. The H Town girls.
Santana
Yes, y'all be rapping.
Lex P
Y'all off per usual item of the week. I got on my crowns of love. Love hair. I got me a little flip over a little one, too. Shout out to Rich Look Hair for doing my hair.
Drea Nicole
But yeah, and Santana, I have a cosmetics line, too. I gotta send you some. I need to get your. I'm. Get your mail in the dress.
Santana
Okay.
Drea Nicole
So I can send you the lip glosses then. I just came out with some blushes. I don't came out with a whole bunch.
Santana
Oh, yeah. I need her. All of that.
Lex P
The blushes is.
Drea Nicole
They are.
Lex P
I love a little. A little what's up, y'all? It's your girl xp.
Drea Nicole
And it's your girl Dre Nicole.
Lex P
Y'all know we have a segment on Poor Minds called Item of the Week, but do you have a product or something that you want to promote and you want it featured On Poor Minds, your opportunity is here, period.
Drea Nicole
If you have an item or you have a business and you want to get it promoted, we are now having slots available on the Poor Minds episode. So if you would like to get your product featured for item of the week, all you need to do is send an email to item of the Week, pml.com. that's it. W E E K P M gmail.com. send us an email and we'll work it out. We gonna figure it out. Get your product, get your business sponsored and yeah, make you some money.
Lex P
We love to support a small business.
Drea Nicole
Now in a black business at that. But I mean we don't discriminate. Any business is welcome.
Lex P
Okay, so we're gonna get to our favorite segment. Do you feel like you give good advice?
Santana
Yes.
Lex P
Okay, so this is what I am.
Santana
Used for all day. Mother long.
Lex P
This is pour your heart out.
Drea Nicole
So are we doing both questions or one?
Lex P
Yeah. Cause mine is short. Okay, so if you want your question answered on the show, make sure you email us at. This says, hey, Sexy Lex and Sexy Dre. Sexy Dre, That's a new name. I'm a 20 year old virgin and I just want to know how long should I make a guy wait? Like, should I wait until he asks me to be his girlfriend or is it cool to do it during the talking stage? I don't. I don't know when the right time is, but I really wanna.
Drea Nicole
Oh, he did not say that.
Santana
I swear to God. And it's big.
Lex P
She said, I really wanna. I think, how do you know you wanna?
Santana
Cause you ain't never, girl that get wet and tingle and stuff. Girl, you know you ready to get served.
Lex P
But I've been serving for a long time. I'm 35. I've been serving for 20 years.
Drea Nicole
Not you been serving up.
Lex P
I've been serving for 20 years. I'm 35.
Santana
I think that by her being a virgin, she should be a little more delicate with the virginity.
Lex P
Cause you've waited this long.
Drea Nicole
Yeah, I agree.
Santana
You waited this long.
Lex P
Keep waiting, girl.
Drea Nicole
After that.
Lex P
Yeah, but wait, no, I did. Your first time should be spent.
Santana
You waited a long time. I never had sex. I was 18.
Lex P
Have you ever had sex with a girl?
Santana
No, I did. Like a little 1, 2. But I wouldn't consider it like having sex. But I did go in there.
Drea Nicole
You put it in. Why you don't consider that sex?
Santana
Cause it was like, girl, a little. Like a little one, two.
Lex P
And you didn't like it.
Santana
Like it wasn't it was cute.
Lex P
Okay. Y'all had a moment.
Santana
Yeah, she had, like, the macaroni and cheese. Ish.
Drea Nicole
Now she had that gushy gush.
Santana
And y'all got, like, a muscle thing.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
So as I'm. As. Yeah, as I'm coming out, she ripped that thing. Yeah. I said, hey, girl, we just playing.
Drea Nicole
Santana, she was a hoe. Was she 18, too?
Santana
No, she wasn't 18. No, this. I. I had sex. I never had sex with. I had sex with a boy at 18.
Lex P
But when he had sex.
Drea Nicole
Yeah, when he had sex with the girl, how old was she?
Santana
We was like. Probably was like, I think, like 23, 24 or something.
Drea Nicole
Oh, okay.
Santana
But it was my homegirl, and, girl, it was a trial and error just to see what it give. Girl, you had started confusing me and stuff. I was like, you liked it a little bit, I thought. I. I liked that group. Girl, it was so funny. You liked it when I was coming out. I was like, oh, hey, girl, what's wrong with you? Let me up from this. But you've been to had, baby. I'm weak as.
Drea Nicole
That's why I said she was.
Santana
Cuz I thought it was very, like, two minutes. Like, it was. So that's why I said, you don't count it. Consider it that. But I did. I said. I said, okay, I can see why, but I could. I could go for that.
Drea Nicole
Okay, that makes sense. That's why I thought y'all was both 18. I was like, oh, she was a little.
Santana
We was above 18.
Drea Nicole
You gotta be seasoned to know about that grill.
Santana
Yeah, that's the season more. Yeah, because I was coming out, but I thought I was coming out. I was coming back in. I said, what the.
Drea Nicole
You said the Mac and cheese.
Santana
I said, oh, hey, girl, you working on. That's my girl.
Lex P
Are y'all still friends?
Santana
Yeah.
Lex P
Okay, so. Yeah.
Santana
Yeah.
Lex P
The virginity question. Girl, just wait. Don't rush it. Take it.
Santana
Yeah, it's your virginity. Be delicate now. Once you him, you can serve. Cuz, when I. I didn't start having sex till I was 8. I had sex with a boy for the first time when I was 18. And after I. Him. When I was 18, I went on a rampage.
Lex P
You gotta go on that rampage.
Drea Nicole
What you mean, a rampage?
Lex P
I know what you mean by a rampage.
Santana
Look, he took. We was couches.
Lex P
The woods.
Santana
The woods? Yeah. Oh, my God. Florida got woods, girl. No, I was living in North Carolina. It was like a little this way. We was in the woods, and it gave me big back there. Cause when we got back there. It was a little bit the pallet on a pallet girl. I said a pallet in the wood and a little bench. Hey, how many people you bought back here? I still did it though.
Drea Nicole
He bought that bench for that.
Lex P
He came out there looking like Winnie the Pooh.
Santana
And I was young, was like. I think I was. I was like. I was like 18 still at the time.
Lex P
You went to the woods?
Santana
No, I didn't lost my virginity woods. I lost my virginity to this. To this dope boy. I thought I was too raw. This was back then. It was a Uber.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
He had ordered me a little taxi.
Drea Nicole
Uhhuh.
Santana
But it was tea, cuz the taxi was $80, $80 there and $80 home.
Drea Nicole
So you like he spending money.
Santana
I get there. She got a per just back in the day. So. But she a perp. But she done smoke four blunts.
Drea Nicole
A perp you please.
Santana
And so then he said his mama. So his mama at burp his sister in there. So now I'm feeling like fish. Cause boy, you me your sister in the next room. You ain't scared me in his room at first. We later watch tv. I had on my. This little new thong. I was ready to get served. So crazy after me he had or whatever. Girl, we help me. We watching tv like, you know how you get put out. Yeah, y'all help me and stuff. You know, you don't do that.
Drea Nicole
He was holding you from behind help me and stuff.
Santana
And we watched, you know, tb.
Lex P
Y'all was in love.
Santana
And then your sister started doing the most. So I had to hide in the closet for a little bit. And then, you know, you called me another taxi and all that. And so I left. I remember he gave me his Ed Hardy shirt. And I just remember like on my way home, just. I was so in love.
Drea Nicole
That's beautiful.
Santana
And my pussy was throbbing, was ringing like a doorbell. But I didn't even care.
Drea Nicole
Cause he didn't have boyfriend the girl now.
Lex P
Oh my God.
Santana
And that was my first time too. So I remember the next day I called. I had called. I was calling his cell phone. He want answer the cell phone. So I had the house phone number too. Yeah. So now I'm calling the house phone. And every time I always. My voice always had been like this.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
So like I even remember my mom used to cuss out people at McDonald's. A girl toy. Give me a girl toy. She like, that's a boy. Like, you know, as a kid I'm ordering my food like I want I want a happy meal. And I okay. A girl toy. She's like, no, a boy would. I'm we. So I'm like, on the phone. I'm like, you know, on the phone, his mom answer. Hello. So I'm like, let me think of a girl name. That's commie. Hello? Yeah, this Shay. Yeah, he did.
Drea Nicole
Why her name.
Santana
It's coming. So he got on the phone. I'm like, hello.
Lex P
Click.
Santana
I'm like, you didn't.
Lex P
You thought you ate that. I'm like, she clocked your teeth?
Santana
No, no, the mama didn't clock. He got on the phone. I'm like, hello?
Lex P
Click.
Drea Nicole
I'm like, you were scared.
Santana
No, he got on the phone. He got on the phone and hung up.
Lex P
No, he got on the phone and hung up.
Drea Nicole
Hung up on you.
Lex P
Stop calling me like I'm not.
Santana
Okay, I'll call back the next day. Hello? Hey, this Bri. Can I speak to be on the phone?
Drea Nicole
Cle.
Santana
Hello? Hello? So I go, the next day I called. I forgot who name I used that day, but I think that name he was. That name he ain't. He wasn't going for it. So he just never answered. He. He didn't get on the phone that day. And I just remember Bill, my cousin, I was crying so bad. It's a song we. I used to play this every night. It's a song by Tank. I can't make you love me.
Drea Nicole
Santana.
Lex P
Santana, please.
Santana
Me and my cousin, we sit there. I used to play the song off my iPad. If you don't cry like a. You can't make your heart feel something.
Drea Nicole
You can make your heart feel.
Santana
I so boohoo cry. I was like, he don't love me. You don't do that. You don't nobody. And hug and hold him and all that. And just stop answering the phone.
Drea Nicole
No.
Santana
And so now in my head, I'm like, the ain't hitting. Like, I must be wasn't serving and being a gay boy and dealing with download men, I realized that it wasn't you. It wasn't me.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
Niggas be so psyched out in their head. And that's why transgenders get killed and do things that as soon as they bust that nut, they, like, get away. What the What?
Lex P
Post nut clarity. Cause as straight people, we get post nut clarity. So imagine when a man that's down.
Santana
Low, I have took a. I'm like, hey, don't you tell nobody. Don't.
Drea Nicole
Hey, don't tell nobody.
Santana
I.
Drea Nicole
You.
Lex P
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, so Is he open now? Is he openly gay now?
Drea Nicole
Or is he still.
Santana
I don't. I don't. I don't know. I don't know where the mother at. And I keep telling this story because you need to reach out. You owe me. I need coach.
Drea Nicole
I need reparations, closure.
Lex P
Okay, Dre, go with your question. Go with your question.
Drea Nicole
Okay, so my question is Hydra and licks. I have this friend that every guy I date or at least talk to, she doesn't like. I'm dating this new guy, and one day, my tire pops. I called him, and he came and changed my tire. When? When he introduced me to. No. She said when he tries to introduce himself to her, she was standoffish. What? People, don't be typing right. But anyways, because she was with me when the tire popped. After he changed my tire, we hung out a little bit, and he rolled me to pick up some stuff to make sure I'm safe. She got mad that he came along and made me drive my car with a donut on it. We didn't take his car because he had a two seater. After we were done, she told me he's a bum, and she doesn't like him, mind you. This is her first time meeting him. He's a nice guy. He has his own place, own business, and no kids. I explained to her that she was tripping, and she said, he's still a bum. I told her, you don't like any of the dudes I date. And she said, all the dudes I date are bums. And this one has to prove to her that he's worthy of dating me. Is it jealousy?
Santana
Stop hanging with that. Exactly.
Drea Nicole
So wait, y'all, this is the last sentence she said. Is it jealousy? And should I distance myself from her? Keep doing what y'all doing. I love y'all so much.
Santana
We love you, too. And get that hate around you.
Lex P
I always say this. As long as he not beating on my friend.
Santana
Hold on.
Lex P
Mind your business. Mind your business. Who is that?
Santana
Hello?
Drea Nicole
Ooh, it's giving baby. Can you help me?
Lex P
Help me.
Santana
What? I'm coming. I'm almost done. Yeah, I told he busy.
Drea Nicole
He working.
Santana
He working. They said I'm busy.
Drea Nicole
Let me see.
Santana
What?
Drea Nicole
He working. Let me see.
Santana
Look.
Lex P
Cute. Do you like? You fine.
Drea Nicole
Let me see.
Santana
Thank you.
Drea Nicole
It's cute.
Santana
It's cute. Hold on.
Lex P
Where your stripes are?
Drea Nicole
No, he.
Lex P
Where your straight friends at? You know who he look like? I don't trust you.
Santana
I don't trust him neither.
Lex P
No, he look like Sean Bankhead. He look like Sean Bankhead.
Santana
I don't.
Lex P
Yes, he do.
Santana
No, the. He do not.
Lex P
Ooh, you got mad girl.
Santana
She crazy as hell.
Drea Nicole
No, he cute, though. He is cute.
Santana
He cute. So that k is cute. The choreographer, her. That's the bad.
Drea Nicole
Be having all. Okay, bye.
Lex P
He fine.
Drea Nicole
You said he the one that's gonna.
Santana
Be like the bad, but what's that? He know that. He know. He te.
Drea Nicole
He is cute, though.
Lex P
Yeah, he okay. I see it. I get it.
Santana
He know he te.
Drea Nicole
I get it.
Lex P
He is Te.
Santana
See. I just.
Drea Nicole
When I.
Santana
He like. Yeah. Who them girls was. Yeah, you see how they was. You see how they. My voice. Sh. I'm fine. But that's what. When people see it, they like, oh, he cute. He give that. So he already know it. Yeah, he cute.
Drea Nicole
When you talk to him later, he definitely gonna be like, them girls said that I was fine.
Santana
That's my man. I love him. My man.
Lex P
Okay, Santana, let the girls know where they can find you. What you got coming up? All that good stuff.
Santana
You can find me at big dot com. Wait, now stop.
Lex P
Okay. What's that what's her name thing? TS F. Shout out to Matt, TS Madison.
Drea Nicole
You know we had TS Medicine on the show. I love.
Santana
Like me.
Lex P
Oh, I love my sister.
Santana
That's the realest. One of the realest I know.
Drea Nicole
Really loves TS Medicine.
Lex P
Love her.
Santana
Shout out to.
Drea Nicole
I gotta. If you really into astrology, I'm into, like, moon signs and stuff.
Santana
I don't know about the moon signs.
Drea Nicole
I have a Libra rising, so I love, Like, I love Libras. Y'all do be lying, though.
Santana
Libras lie to.
Drea Nicole
Y'all lie to everybody.
Santana
No, we don't. The thing I hate about people saying a lying Libra, because I'm not a corny. That lie about stupid stuff. Yeah, like.
Drea Nicole
But you be lying to a.
Santana
Yes, I lie like a rug.
Lex P
I love a good lie.
Santana
Yes, from the lie.
Lex P
I don't believe it too, but I don't.
Santana
But I just like. You know how people that just lie? Yeah. All the time.
Lex P
You just be lying about stupid.
Santana
You just be lying. Oh, yeah. I just hit a dick on this boy. Just. Oh, my God. I just let this boy grow high about. He gave me 20,000. No, he didn't. He gave you $20. He didn't give you $20.
Lex P
I hate girls.
Drea Nicole
That's crazy. $20, 25.
Santana
I know that. Lie like that be like, look at.
Lex P
This bag about me, but my mom.
Drea Nicole
Is a Libra, too. When is your birthday?
Santana
October. 8th.
Drea Nicole
My mom birthday is October 18th.
Santana
For real?
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Lex P
I don't want to say the birthday, but yeah, I dealt with a Libra.
Santana
And yeah, he's October 8th.
Lex P
I don't understand. Birthday. Birthday.
Santana
He got the same birthday as me?
Lex P
No, he doesn't have the same birthday. But it's. When I say close, oh, it's either the 7th or the 9th.
Santana
Cause what's the name? Me and what's the name got the same birthday.
Drea Nicole
Who?
Santana
Nick Cannon and G herbo. Oh, my God.
Drea Nicole
Did you see that? Nick Cannon came out recently and said that he diagnosed a narcissist.
Santana
Yeah, because we're libras.
Drea Nicole
You think all libras are?
Lex P
Yes. Do you think you narcissistic? I think he knows, but he knows he has his ways.
Drea Nicole
I'm not mad at that, though. To me, that's real. That you could look at yourself in the mirror and be like, I just.
Santana
Said, you know what? I'm 31.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
I wanna go to therapy.
Lex P
You should.
Drea Nicole
I think black men don't like to go to therapy.
Santana
I just wanna unpack it.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
And you.
Lex P
The things you will discover. You know what you need to.
Drea Nicole
And it'll probably make you better in your next relationship.
Lex P
You also need to journal every day. Cause journaling literally changed my life. Because I know I have my ways too. So I was able to look back on things and how I viewed things, and I was able to grow from that. Cause I'm like, okay, two years ago, this is where I was and this was my thought process. And why is this? Why am I handling things this way? It has helped me so much. Journal and go to therapy. Your life gonna change.
Drea Nicole
Yeah, I agree.
Santana
I said I just wanna. I just wanna unpack. I just gotta. I gotta talk to somebody about somebody.
Drea Nicole
Somebody that you don't feel judged. That's unbiased.
Santana
That don't matter. I mean, well then so. But at the same time, is that like. Is that like what I do with my best friend? Cause me and Caresha tell each other.
Drea Nicole
But you and Caresha know each other.
Santana
Okay.
Lex P
Caresha needs to go to therapy too.
Drea Nicole
She gonna be b. Because at the end of the day, you gotta look at it like these. Like I feel like.
Santana
But you know what? You know what I hate? Well, me and Karisha get together that take everybody's side but mine.
Drea Nicole
Or do you be wrong?
Santana
No, I don't be mother wrong.
Lex P
No, he be wrong.
Santana
No, I don't. And Caresha will always take the aside.
Lex P
But you don't need a yes.
Santana
Life Revolve around the man. No, you don't.
Lex P
That's what I'm saying.
Santana
So that's the thing. No, he got me. She up. She be like.
Drea Nicole
She be like, oh, what she do?
Santana
I'm not gonna lie.
Lex P
Cause I used to be that way, too. I remember I asked Dre advice some one time.
Drea Nicole
I'm always like that with her. At the point people be on the show, people be leaving.
Lex P
I was like, you didn't even say what I wanted.
Santana
Anyways, hang up on you. Not in the move.
Drea Nicole
Even still to this day, people leave comments. They be like, draya always trying to. She always want to purposely disagree with Lex. She always want to be like, oh, no, Lex, you wrong. Am I purposely disagreeing with her? Or is it like, I really. Different perspective.
Santana
Yes, they have. But just being a real. And being a real. Cause yesterday I had me and Chrisha talking about something. I was like. I said, I gotta be her best friend right now.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
I was like, you gotta eat that one. Yeah, this is your fault.
Lex P
You need that, though.
Santana
You know what I'm saying? Like, and so I get that. But I said, baby, with a therapist, it's like just one of a professional setting and unbiased. More of somebody that don't even know me and be like, well, why is you like that?
Lex P
Yeah.
Drea Nicole
And then you can unpack.
Santana
Why did you do that?
Drea Nicole
And then you can unpack deeper too. Santana, you got to think about it like this. Like, at the end of the day, you and Caresha are best friends. I'm sure she knows a lot about you. But you ain't told her everything. Everything that traumatized you or everything that.
Santana
You ever my daddy like. It's a lot.
Drea Nicole
Yeah. And it's like, you could talk to your therapist about that stuff. And it's to safe space because they not going to judge you. They going to let you know, hey, you tripping about this. Maybe you not tripping about this. Let's unpack.
Santana
Like.
Drea Nicole
Like, let's try to figure out how to get you through this, because clearly this is traumatizing you. This may be affecting your relationships with people.
Santana
Uhhuh.
Drea Nicole
So I don't know.
Lex P
I think it's a good ide. But what's your real act?
Santana
What?
Lex P
So the girls can follow you?
Santana
Oh, my real is the one Saucy Santana on Instagram. I think it's Saucy Santana on TikTok. Saucy Santana on Twitter.
Lex P
And what you got coming up where the girls can look out for. What are we looking Forward to in 20, 25.
Santana
You know what? I always, when I get asked that question, I always like to tell people to stay tuned.
Lex P
Because you just never know.
Santana
You never know. I'm very like, spontaneous. Even my manager know, like sometimes the phone just ring and be like, hey, we want Santana to come. I'd be like, oh, okay. Like I literally, like, I'm blessed. Even in seasons, when it's snow, I'm just still blessed that the phone rings. And I love that for you. And I just be caught for all kinds of.
Lex P
But I like that you said that because honestly, I hate a fake business.
Santana
Uh huh.
Lex P
I hate a. That's always dropping an announcement.
Santana
Yeah, we know.
Drea Nicole
You ain't really doing nothing I ain't got going.
Lex P
You always got an announcement, baby, calm down. You don't gotta announce. I'm not gonna lie. Let me tell you something. My friend has a whole business. She always dropping new products and I'm finna promote that. I have things that I'm working on, but it's moving a little slower. But I'm my own person, but I don't feel the need to be like, like, oh, y'all stay tuned.
Santana
Uhhuh.
Lex P
I got this coming out. Sometimes it be like, hey, I ain't going to lie. Like, things pop up for me and if you see me, you see me.
Drea Nicole
Yeah, but those are people that's not really happy for they friends. I feel like those the type of.
Santana
People you got to watch.
Drea Nicole
Like when you got an announcement, they got.
Lex P
They got an announcement.
Drea Nicole
To me, that's a little. It's like you're trying to take the.
Santana
Spotlight off of me.
Drea Nicole
You trying to be weird because we both can have things going on. But if you not saying nothing about what you got going on until I say something about what I got going on, it kind of give weird.
Santana
And then so what if we didn't. I didn't say nothing about what I got going on, and you didn't say nothing about what you got going on. But our announcements are already playing at the same time.
Drea Nicole
Well, that's because. How do we know? I don't know. I disagree. I feel like some people want to keep stuff under wraps until they ready to announce. If we happen to both have something going on and we both like, okay, I'm not gonna tell nobody until I'm ready.
Santana
I might could be coming out with finna drop a new song.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
And Mitch might be finna drop a new product line.
Drea Nicole
And y'all didn't tell each other and.
Santana
We didn't say, I Didn't tell you that I'm dropping my song on March 4th. You didn't tell me you was gonna drop your new product line on March 4th. But here we are.
Drea Nicole
How was that? To me, how was that?
Santana
How was it? Weird.
Drea Nicole
We didn't know.
Lex P
I mean, it's different if, like, we didn't know. But I'm talking about the people that be like, somebody announced something, and then, like, the same day or the next day, you announce something, but we don't even know what it is. You just like, oh, y'all, I have a special announcement to make. Coming soon.
Santana
Weird. Do you know?
Drea Nicole
That's because the other person said, I got these going.
Lex P
So that's what I'm saying. Sometimes when you're in this industry, sometimes you have times where you're booked and busy all the time, and sometimes you have a little slow season, but trust and believe it's coming. Just stay tuned.
Santana
Stay tuned.
Lex P
That's honest.
Santana
Cause even, like, next year, I already got, like, somebody just hit me up the other day and was like, hey, I'm producing this new show. Blah, blah, blah. Like, I don't even know what the hell it's called. So I'm like, I don't know. We gonna see when we.
Lex P
I think you. When we get there, you would have.
Drea Nicole
I'm not gonna lie.
Lex P
You could do, like, you. Like, a camera needs to follow you around.
Drea Nicole
Need your own shot.
Santana
The ideal TV show that I wanted for myself is I want a show based around me and my friends.
Lex P
Yes, that would be perfect.
Santana
Me and my everyday friends. That's not famous, and my famous friends can, like, hop in the episodes, But I want to show, like, the fun side of. Yeah, I feel like with tv, we got enough drama.
Lex P
I'm tired of seeing people throw drinks and fucking.
Santana
We got Zeus. We got love and hip hop. We got. Now that's tv. We got all that.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
I want to really show. Like, how do y'all know my best friend Harris this year?
Lex P
Mitch the guy. Yes. I just said. You and Mitch are hilarious. When he came out your closet with them Rick Owens boots on.
Santana
Oh, my God, Yes.
Lex P
Cried.
Santana
I want our.
Lex P
He was the. Remember when I sent you that video? So y'all have a video where he was like. You was like, all up on. He was like, why you in my space? I was like, this is me, Andrea. I be Andrea. Like, what you doing? Hold on.
Santana
Back up. Back.
Drea Nicole
The Santana.
Santana
That.
Drea Nicole
That really be her.
Santana
I be like, move, move. That is me and Mitch. Oh, my God. Get the back.
Drea Nicole
And so he love you down. She love me down.
Lex P
I be, like, moving and what.
Santana
But I want us to have a show, like, kind of like that. Like, I feel like you will be. People love to laugh.
Lex P
Yeah. And I feel like you'll be surprised.
Santana
Laughter really heals a lot of stuff.
Lex P
It does.
Santana
And I get so many DMs. Like, whenever I'm having a bad day, I go to your TikTok. I love you and your best friend, Mitch. I love you and your best friend caresha. I love. I just. And I'm like, I want to get a show where it's like. What I want us to do is I want me and Mitch and I want to sometimes substitute other friends. I want us to be like parents. Up to them. Show simple life. A simple life. So what I really want is probably like eight to 10 episodes in the series, and I want us to do try different jobs and different activities each day. So imagine me and Mitch going to be zooming zookeepers.
Lex P
Yeah, that'll be.
Santana
And a llama spitting our face.
Drea Nicole
Going work at a call center.
Santana
Yes.
Lex P
Yeah.
Santana
Or a mother tiger getting to run into a cat. Yeah, girl, we done threw everything at SeaWorld or something. A big dolphin, a jump out the. Like, I want. I want to do fun stuff.
Lex P
We need to get back to having fun. And I'm.
Santana
I don't know how to cook. I go today, Santana, go be a chef.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Santana
I used to go live on Instagram cooking in my house. Girl, I almost burnt my house.
Lex P
I remember that.
Santana
You seen that?
Drea Nicole
Can I ask you a question, though? People who can't cook are always very interesting to me because I feel like all you gotta do is follow the directions. So what do you think is hard about cooking?
Santana
Girl, it's too much like, girl, you gotta. You just gotta know. You gotta know. I'm very. I could cook simple.
Drea Nicole
Okay, like, what's y'all. What's your number one recipe?
Santana
Tacos.
Drea Nicole
Or if you make us some tacos, we're gonna be like, Santa, you gonna.
Santana
Live the tacos ghost. Okay.
Lex P
You don't have tacos.
Santana
Hold on.
Lex P
Well, we gonna wrap this up. Cause we about to do karaoke.
Drea Nicole
We about to do karaoke.
Lex P
We'll see y'all next week.
Drea Nicole
Bye, y'all.
Lex P
Y'all make sure y'all share the content. Like, subscribe, follow all all that good stuff. And let me say this before we close out, y'all, there is one Twitter account that is connected to poor minds. It's P O U R underscore M I N D S y'all are tagging the wrong Poor Minds page. If you see at Poor minds with no underscore, that is a fake page. Do not follow that page.
Santana
Okay?
Lex P
They block me, Andrea. And the Poor Minds page on both. So we only have one Instagram, one Twitter, one tick tock. It is P O u r underscore M I n D S. All right.
Drea Nicole
And we got hella fake Facebook page.
Lex P
Oh, the Facebook pages.
Drea Nicole
Our face. The crazy thing is our Facebook page actually have the least amount of followers.
Lex P
So if you're on Facebook, the one that's ours got the least amount of followers.
Drea Nicole
The one that's not us got like250,000.
Lex P
Make if you actually look at the content.
Santana
Because.
Lex P
Because the caption is like, whoever it is don't speak English because their captions.
Drea Nicole
Are like, bumba clutch.
Lex P
Should men, should men pay bill? Should men pay bill?
Santana
Yes.
Lex P
No check answer below.
Santana
Block, block.
Drea Nicole
Like, that's literally what the captions are.
Lex P
I like you.
Santana
What that?
Lex P
DDG's Bumba Claw.
Drea Nicole
Bumba Claw.
Lex P
I love that.
Santana
Hey, Big Lotto. When a real one hold you down, baby you supposed to drown. You ain't never with no boss. I turned you out, period. You won't catch me in no shark boot. Sh. Part them out, period. Hey, yeah. O Big lot on him. Big lot on him. What a real 100.
Lex P
But you supposed to drown.
Santana
You ain't supposed never with no boss. I turn you out, you won't catch me in no shark boo. Sh. Burn them out. Just gotta wait till they birthday to go out of town. Broy I talk a lot of he like who you think you is not brokey. Think he got one up on me whole time. This like three. And okay, I be groining. Clearly want my life and it's so evident could clean, right? Yeah, what I look like asking him about another, huh? Might tell you once more, tell you twice. If we shut up, we'll be all right. See, y'all gonna tweet and I'm gonna fight facts. Yeti, how sweet is apple pie ain't got no car. So rival bro say y'all can't even do that. Why, how, when, where? Just let me know how you want to play it. You know I'm there. If it was smoke, then I would say said crystal clear. Left our panties at his mansion like a souvenir when a real one how you down, baby?
Drea Nicole
You supposed to drown.
Santana
And you ain't never with no boss.
Lex P
I turned you out.
Santana
You won't catch me in no shark v Them out got to wait till they birthday to go out of town, bro I talk a lot of he like who you think you is broken? Think he got one up on me her time this like 3,0 missus can't be with yeah talking about nothing. Every time I look up, I'm the topic of discussion. I'm in a fast coupe. You in a bad mood in the bathroom oh, you gonna meet him halfway. I'm excited to make them wait. You're the type to give it up it's hard for me to get give a you gonna let him plead his case A like me can't go for nothing, huh? Noah said my cup, yo when I leave the club consider when you mention me. Don't forget rich squeaky clean but I got y when a real one how you down?
Lex P
Hey, you supposed to drown.
Santana
You won't catch me in no sh gotta wait till they birthday I talk a lot he like who you think you is? He got one up on me her time and like three and now twin I your daddy I her your cousin I took down your homeboy bitch and I've been selling out your wallet this ho's half yeah, and I got something to say, too poppy I got your account number on my light bill, babe. Yeah yeah, yeah. Think he got one off me house like 3 and 0 and I gotta.
Lex P
We gotta close it out like this. You ain't me for free.
Santana
Why you why you lying?
Lex P
Hold a hoop on the I'm Hawaiian.
Santana
Thank you. You gotta throw that thing. Ah. See y'all next that cat see you poor mine you got poor min.
Lex P
Sa.
Pour Minds Podcast Summary: Episode "DooDoo Brown FT. Saucy Santana"
Podcast Information:
The episode kicks off with the introduction of Saucy Santana, a rising social media influencer and rapper. Hosted by Lex P and Drea Nicole, Santana shares his journey into the music industry, emphasizing his unique position as a gay artist in hip-hop.
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Santana delves into his musical beginnings, highlighting his viral freestyle that led to his breakout hit, "Walk Him Like a Dog." He discusses his passion for creating club music over mainstream luxury rap lines like "Burke and Chanel," aiming to bring fun and inclusivity back to his art.
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The conversation shifts to Santana's relationships within the industry, particularly his friendship with Caresha. They recount moments where Santana defended Caresha against public backlash, emphasizing the challenges of maintaining genuine friendships amidst fame and rumors.
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Santana, Lex, and Drea engage in a philosophical debate about the existence of karma. They reflect on personal experiences where actions seemingly had direct consequences, debating whether karma is a real force or merely life's unpredictability.
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The hosts discuss the effects of social media on personal relationships and public image. They share anecdotes about misunderstandings during live streams and how viral moments can distort reality, stressing the importance of authentic communication.
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Lex and Drea announce their new endeavors, including a Patreon-exclusive show titled "Poor Chronicles" launching on September 2nd. They also promote their ebook bundle aimed at helping aspiring podcasters and entrepreneurs.
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In the final segment, the hosts address listener-submitted questions, offering advice on relationships, self-care, and personal growth. They emphasize the importance of setting boundaries, seeking professional help, and prioritizing one's mental health.
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Conclusion: This episode of Pour Minds Podcast offers an intimate look into Santana's life as a gay rapper navigating the complexities of the music industry and personal relationships. Through candid conversations and shared experiences, hosts Lex P and Drea Nicole provide valuable insights into maintaining authenticity and resilience in the face of public scrutiny.
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