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Jess Hilarious
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What up y'?
Jess Hilarious
All?
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Lex P
Everybody we date pretty much if they're in our age range or up, they have children.
Jess Hilarious
And I'm not gonna lie, I'm so proud of y'. All. Because the dating pool is like, shit and piss. It is so. And you have to be very careful. That's why I also talk about in the book, you gotta get to know a person before you create a village with this person. Like, we're creating people.
Lex P
Yes.
Jess Hilarious
And then your kids grow up and you wonder why he's shoot and he going to school and he talking shit, and he. Because you didn't do a proper diagnosis on his father. You didn't evaluate this nigga at dinner, you was on the phone talking about, he got me at STK. He just spent 500 on me. Bitch, I didn't even know.
Drea Nicole
He used to call truffle butter.
Jess Hilarious
Truffle butter. Like, all of that caviar, like, from all the scamming money. And that's crazy. I think the questions on a date should be. Especially when you see potential in a guy, whatever that may be these days, you gotta ask, like, yo, do you have both of your parents? And that may not be. It may not be. So, all right, cool. Who raised you? Okay, what are your thoughts and what are your, like, morals? Like, what are your thoughts on, like, parenting? How are you when you get angry? You know what I'm saying? Like, do you ever see yourself with kids? Did you ever see yourself married? Like, these are all the questions that my husband asked me when he met me to the point where I was ready to get up and fight this.
Lex P
Yeah, yeah. Ain't even ask him a math question. Plus eight, minus two, plus six. Ho. Ass. Yeah. Let's see.
Jess Hilarious
Damn.
Drea Nicole
Well, I'm have to do that in my calculator first.
Lex P
Spit it out to him. You know, you got to see if they can add, subtract.
Jess Hilarious
So if A. Say Pemdas, then that means that he got.
Lex P
Oh, what does that mean?
Drea Nicole
But then we got to ask him, do you remember what he mean?
Lex P
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
Okay.
Drea Nicole
Parentheses,
Lex P
exponent, Exponents, Multiplication, division, division, addition.
Jess Hilarious
No, we skipping the D. No, we didn't. Division, division. Okay. Addition and subtraction.
Lex P
Okay. We would have passed.
Jess Hilarious
You had me fucked up on the pieces.
Lex P
What's up, y'? All? It's your girl Lex P. And it's
Drea Nicole
your girl Drea Nicole.
Lex P
And you are tuned in to another episode of Poor Mind, where a drunk
Drea Nicole
mind speaks sober thoughts.
Lex P
We got a guest today. We got a guest today.
Drea Nicole
So today we have a very special guest in the building. One of the funniest women on the Internet. Comedian, actress, entrepreneur, radio personality, author, wife, mother. Y' all give it up for my girl Jess.
Jess Hilarious
Hilarious.
Lex P
Hey.
Jess Hilarious
Thank you. I'm Mama Kid with my girls.
Drea Nicole
I'm so glad you finally made it.
Jess Hilarious
I've been trying to come on Poor Minds for a while, but the schedules and then everybody been coming here.
Lex P
Oh, my God.
Jess Hilarious
And then everybody always talk about they got a bartender. They so fun.
Lex P
I'm like, it's all right.
Jess Hilarious
Cause, bitch, I'm gonna be on there.
Lex P
I am free. Yes. Well, thank you for coming.
Jess Hilarious
Thank y' all for having me.
Lex P
First of all, I really want to say thank you for coming, because, baby, every time I look on tv, online, you on a podcast, you've been doing everything.
Drea Nicole
Yeah. You've been everywhere.
Lex P
This is an amazing rollout for this book. And you've been working so hard. So everything that you're getting right now, you 100% deserve it.
Drea Nicole
Absolutely.
Lex P
Yes. So thank you for being here. Now we gonna talk about what you have been doing in between the podcast. Right. Cause you were at the roast on.
Drea Nicole
I was.
Lex P
You were at the Kevin Hart roast. So I wanna talk about the roast a little bit before we get into all the good stuff. What did you think about the roast as a comedian?
Jess Hilarious
The first thing, honestly, that I thought was, how the fuck was I ever canceled? Mm.
Drea Nicole
Ooh.
Jess Hilarious
How? I don't give a fuck what I said, what I done with, like, how sitting in that room, I was like, yeah, I have never seen. I've never went that damn, like, ever. Right? And then so after that, I'm listening. Because I don't always feel like, if something is offensive, stay away from it. No, I don't. But I don't like to mess with death. I don't like to mess with injustice. You know what I'm saying? It was certain jokes that I just felt like was, now these not jokes. This is what the fuck y' all been saying. But now y' all got a big platform to say it on, so why not? You know what I mean?
Lex P
Okay.
Jess Hilarious
And that's just how I felt. And because it's live, they can't, like, rewind it. We can't stop it. And, you know, and these comedians, they were practicing those jokes for, like, that whole week.
Drea Nicole
Wow.
Lex P
Nobody said, what's up?
Jess Hilarious
These shits had to be approved, you know, by certain people. And I'm like, oh, shit. Okay. So this is what we doing. We letting shit fly. But, you know, there are consequences for things that you say. And it's not always Political or you lose endorsements or you might get hit in your fucking mouth. You know what I'm saying? And so I was waiting for, like, the Will Smith moment, you know what I mean? But he wasn't there. And then I guess I was like, yeah, so the right people not here. That's just what it is, you know? But, yeah, yeah, but all in all, it was still a lot of funny shit that was said, you know, Shout out to Cheryl.
Lex P
Oh, she ate down.
Jess Hilarious
And she did.
Lex P
I'm not gonna lie to me. The women kind of ate the men.
Jess Hilarious
Chelsea Handler.
Lex P
Chelsea Handler ate where?
Jess Hilarious
Gina Hall. She did. She did. And I wanted to hear from Tiffany. Ain't no way. She was just up there as a fucking seat fella. Y' all know Tiffany get down. But I don't.
Lex P
Why did they say anything to her? Like, nobody acknowledged that she was there.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah, I just. I. Yeah, I was just like, yeah, this is crazy.
Lex P
Some tea behind this.
Jess Hilarious
Little weird. Yeah, I need to do some digging.
Lex P
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah. I'm gonna ask Lauren LaRosa to find out.
Lex P
Yeah, Lauren gonna get that. He gonna go to the bottom.
Jess Hilarious
We can find out.
Drea Nicole
She's gonna figure that shit out.
Jess Hilarious
And then the highlight of my night was seeing Cat come out and do his thing.
Lex P
Yeah,
Drea Nicole
hilarious.
Jess Hilarious
Still got it. And one thing you always gonna do is stand on 10 and double down on whatever and be funny doing it. And I just thought it was great. And even that moment between he and Kevin at the end, you know, before he walked off stage, I thought that was fire, you know, I do want
Drea Nicole
to ask you, how do you. Cuz speaking of, like, people just saying whatever, and then people are getting so offended these days by comedians. How do you feel about the climate with that? Because I know recently Mike Eps had made a post because he was getting a lot backlash about a homeless joke that he made.
Jess Hilarious
Yes.
Drea Nicole
And so he was just like, damn, I'm a comedian. Please remember, it's jokes at the end of the day. How do you feel about that being somebody who does get some backlash online
Jess Hilarious
sometimes I feel like he shouldn't even had to make that video. Like, he shouldn't have done it. He has been like, the uncle OG For a long time. And even the. The. The homeless joke that he made, that wasn't bad. I mean, like, damn. And then you all got to understand comedians just because they're, you know, n. Lie. Like, comedians be lying. But it's jokes. Like, we curate. We carefully curate jokes to make y' all laugh. And it could have been a true Story. But you may add some shit.
Lex P
Yeah, yeah.
Jess Hilarious
You know what I mean? Like, you may be dramatic, you might dramatize something or be sarcastic a little bit. It's all for the laughs, you know? And I just think it's a lot more homeless motherfuckers out here now.
Lex P
Uh. Oh.
Jess Hilarious
And so they probably, like, you know, they got a big enough community where they can, like, hit back. And I ain't gonna lie.
Lex P
I hit my homelessness very well.
Drea Nicole
For real.
Lex P
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
You know what? I'm.
Lex P
They was like, that's a bad bitch. I ain't got a pot to piss in. Y' all don't know exactly. You know what I'm saying?
Jess Hilarious
And I feel like a lot of homeless people got phones, and so while they, you know, in their tents, they texting, they hitting them. They in them comments with them free phones, and they like, yeah, we see you. And, you know, so that's probably why he.
Lex P
Well.
Drea Nicole
Cause they be saying, I got cash app. You be like, I don't have a dollar.
Jess Hilarious
Well, I got cash app. How the hell you got cash app? And what bank account is it set up to? And you know what I mean?
Drea Nicole
Exactly.
Jess Hilarious
It's crazy.
Lex P
Well, Cheryl Underwood made a good point, though, because she said, you know, roast, back in the day, it used to be, like, with comedians, that we were family, we loved each other. We know each other. I don't know you like that to be joking like that. Yeah. And I'm gonna be honest. I might get in trouble saying, we need to segregate the roast, bitch. Segregate the roast.
Jess Hilarious
Right?
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Lex P
So many black comedians that wasn't there. Hello. That should have been there.
Jess Hilarious
Hello.
Lex P
Cause I always say this. There are some white comedians I enjoy, but white comedy and black comedy, way too different.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah.
Lex P
Sometimes we got to keep segregated.
Drea Nicole
Yeah, I agree.
Jess Hilarious
And I'm okay with that.
Drea Nicole
I'm okay with that, too, because I don't know. I always be like, I don't know if I could get roasted, like, by people that I don't know. Maybe people that I know. Yeah. But if it's people that I don't know what Nene said, not too many of them B words. You ain't gonna keep calling me too many of them B words. Like, when you don't know people, it's hard to not get offended.
Jess Hilarious
And when you don't like a particular race, you not scared to go in on the race culture. Cause I felt like a lot of it wasn't even like, a Kevin Hart roast. I'm like, damn, Kevin Ain't the only one being roasted here. You know what I'm saying?
Drea Nicole
They roasting us as a community.
Jess Hilarious
We got people being roasted. We got the culture the community is in. What the. It was a lot going on here.
Lex P
And then once they brought up. Look, y' all bring up my dad, mom, and everybody in here finna die.
Jess Hilarious
Hello.
Lex P
Ruin the whole. Everybody finna be mad and say, I don't care. Hey, now.
Jess Hilarious
And, girl, listen, y' all should. Every time the word crack was said, Lamar Odom's jaw clenched at one point.
Lex P
Cause he was like, where is crack?
Jess Hilarious
Up and walked out.
Lex P
Not all. He said, somebody selling it where? No, he said.
Jess Hilarious
He didn't say that.
Lex P
For real.
Jess Hilarious
I swear. He got up and left. He was like, no, I'm gone.
Lex P
Oh, my gosh. But it's probably triggering. It is. Absolutely. Did you see the documentary? Did I.
Jess Hilarious
Damn.
Lex P
He died six times.
Jess Hilarious
Hello. Then woke up and went to get it again.
Lex P
Hey, move.
Drea Nicole
He got more lives in the cage. Hello.
Jess Hilarious
And so I was like. I said, I ain't gonna mess with him or whatever. Cause they said that he was going. He was gonna walk the carpet. And I was thinking about things, and I was.
Lex P
And I was gonna.
Jess Hilarious
When I saw him, I was gonna say, do you know you look good? Lamar Black don't crack. Or does it.
Lex P
It's you.
Jess Hilarious
And I see, you know, but that's all I had for him. They was going hard in that damn roast.
Lex P
That would have been funny.
Jess Hilarious
Oh, see, I would have treated him way better.
Lex P
You are amazed. Yeah. So let me ask you this. Since we're talking about, you know, like, canceling and, you know, we've all been through the wringer, but I think whenever you started Breakfast Club, I mean, they brought you through the ringer.
Jess Hilarious
They did. Oh, girl.
Lex P
And I want to ask you, like, honestly, are you still having fun doing that? Because I feel like you get criticized so much. So much all the time. So is it fun for you to even show up to work anymore?
Jess Hilarious
Well, to be honest, it was like a dip in that shit. Like, I had fun when I first got it. Like, oh, my God. I was like, oh, my God. It's too. This is great. I get paid to come and talk ish with two bald head niggas all day, and they like my brothers. Yes. The chemistry. Everything is great, you know? And then I left, had my baby came back. Waters got murky and shit. I'm trying to figure out, like, okay, so she gonna stay. Okay. All right. Since ain't nobody saying nothing, let me Go live. And I do not want y' all to do that. Don't try this at your job or at your home. Don't do that. You know, But I did it and put the shit on front street. We had the big verbal kerfuffle on air, whatever, right? And then chemistry, you know, it eventually got better or whatever, but I don't know, I just. I felt like. And it's not even about Lauren, because what she does is totally different from what I do. I love what she does. She's a journalist. I've never wanted to do journalism. I've never wanted to be in the courts with niggas and on the phone with n lawyers, and I've never wanted to. To do that. You know what I mean? But I do commentary on headlines. I make shit funny, you know, just with the mess. That's what I do. When I realized that that couldn't work on air, I think it was like, for me. Ah, damn. Okay, now I gotta find something else to do to fit in this mold. And I've never been somewhere where I had to fit in because I am the fit. You know what I mean? Like, I'm my own brand, I'm my own person. I'm always just hilarious, whatever, you know? But radio was very different. It's things that I can't say, things I can't talk about, things that you know. And it's politics of radio and shit. Like, that is what I. What I will say. Although it's not like the most fun anymore. I have grown up a lot now. I've become, like, more aware of, like, politics and, you know, think more serious shit. Mental health and all of that. You got the mental health man right there sitting across from me every day. Don't play. He don't play. I play. Especially not about no goddamn mental health. So, like, I've definitely grown in ways that I can see. I can look back and be like, oh, damn, that's a lot of growth there. All right, cool. You know, it's helped mature me in a lot of ways, but fun. It was that in the beginning, and I'm still trying to get over that to where that's at.
Lex P
You gonna renew that contract?
Jess Hilarious
Yeah. Huh?
Lex P
Are you gonna renew the contract? When that time comes around, that's for
Jess Hilarious
my team to talk about it. I don't speak no English.
Lex P
All right, I tried it. I tried it, I tried it. No high.
Jess Hilarious
I don't even think I said anything. I'm married a half Mexican. I know how to say a little bit but lately, I know. Company.
Drea Nicole
I'm weak as well. Okay. So, of course. We definitely want to talk to you about your new book, Till Death Do We Parent. So you and the father of your child have a great co parenting relationship?
Jess Hilarious
Jerome.
Lex P
Relationship.
Drea Nicole
Jerome. Jerome. You and Jerome. That is such a baby daddy name.
Jess Hilarious
Listen, I was waiting for somebody to say that. It is. I'm not gonna L. Jerome.
Drea Nicole
Jerome is such a baby daddy name.
Lex P
Yes, it is.
Drea Nicole
So could you tell us a little bit about y' all's journey and the inspiration behind the book and how you got to this point to where y' all have a great relationship?
Jess Hilarious
Yeah, well, me and my son's father are, like, best friends. We cool as hell. We've been like this since our son was, like, three or four.
Drea Nicole
Okay.
Jess Hilarious
It wasn't always like that. Like, the first three years of Ashton life, we was at it. Okay. Jail. You did, man. Yeah. Cause he sent me. He will not. He will not admit to this day that he was the one that called the police. I knew he called the police. I went to go pick my baby up after I got off work. I walked downstairs because he stayed in the basement.
Drea Nicole
Okay.
Jess Hilarious
I walked downstairs, and I seen a girl on top of him, right? Yes, she was on top of him. And my son was on the floor in a blanket, okay. Next to the cat litter.
Lex P
Oh.
Jess Hilarious
And I was like, ew. Okay, cool. But I'm gonna be over there to get you in a minute. Baby hit her? Yeah, she fell off him, grabbed him, and started beating his ass. She put on her clothes. She went up the steps. When I realized the outfit that she put on, I'm like, she a co. She work at a jail. Uh, oh, she a correctional officer. And I already knew what the uniform was. So I go upstairs, run upstairs after her. Cause I'm trying to record her, like, yeah, I'm about to make you lose your job or something. I've never seen a car pull off that damn fast. She was skrt out of there. My baby father called the police on me. I'm telling you, he called the police. He said he blamed it on the stepmother. Now, what kind of guy gonna blame that on the stepmother?
Lex P
One that's not trying to get his ass beat.
Drea Nicole
He called the police.
Jess Hilarious
I'm telling you. So I walked up to his window, and you know when you, like, mad and your adrenaline is going, yo, you hit the. You don't feel nothing. Yeah, I busted, like, two of his windows out with my hand. I'll never forget I had glasses.
Drea Nicole
Did you have to get stitches.
Jess Hilarious
That shit hurt. No, no, no. I had to have my hand wrapped for, like, two weeks, though. That shit hurt. The next day, I ain't feel nothing. I was pissed, right? And so, look, paddy wagon pull up. They put me in there. I'm on my way to the pol. I mean, I'm on my way to the precinct. I see Rome holding the baby. He like, say bye to your mother. That's how I know you called the police.
Lex P
Oh, my God.
Jess Hilarious
How I know? And look, that story not even in the book. It's a part two being rolled.
Drea Nicole
That's an exclusive.
Lex P
Oh, my God.
Jess Hilarious
That's the first time I told this story on anybody podcast or anybody's show. Like, I'm telling you, he. He really was like, say bye to your mother. So then I get to the. I get to the jail. Guess who did my intake?
Lex P
The girl. You guys were.
Jess Hilarious
The girl.
Lex P
She worked at the women's prison. What did you do?
Jess Hilarious
Yes, she worked on the woman's side.
Lex P
What did you do when you tried. I tried to get her fired.
Jess Hilarious
They thought I was crazy. I was like, bitch, she was just with my baby father. Like, this bitch, I. Oh, my. Like, nah, Shanka fired or nothing.
Lex P
Did she bow you a kiss?
Jess Hilarious
No, she wasn't that fold. No, look, she ain't blowing me a kiss, but she winked at me.
Drea Nicole
She did.
Lex P
She winked?
Jess Hilarious
Yup. But I still got the. Still got the bag of that head, though. I was so mad. Cause I'm like, first of all, how do you allow a dude to put his baby on the floor?
Lex P
On the floor?
Jess Hilarious
That was a cat litter. You must have had no kids, bitch.
Drea Nicole
Yeah, she did. What's wrong with you? Ain't no way.
Lex P
So, yeah, we not gonna make mad at him again, though.
Drea Nicole
I know.
Jess Hilarious
Oh, yeah. We are best friends.
Lex P
Yes. That's your friend. Bring it back.
Jess Hilarious
See this? What Dre and Lex will do now,
Drea Nicole
we bring that trauma out.
Jess Hilarious
Cause I forgot to put that in the bun.
Lex P
Yes. And that would have been a good story.
Jess Hilarious
That would have been great story. Oh, it's a couple of ones in there. Yeah.
Lex P
So talk about how y' all went from, like, that space to now. I mean, you putting money. Putting.
Jess Hilarious
No, absolutely.
Drea Nicole
Absolutely.
Jess Hilarious
Yo, that's my guy. When I say it took a lot of maturing and a lot of, like, therapeutic talks. Like, he didn't. He's always, especially back then, rejected the notion of therapy because he was very much like, yo, I don't wanna sit and tell no white woman or no. Even a black person who's never gone through anything that I've gone through all of my business for them to judge me. So that's always been his thing. So he says it's very therapeutic for him to open up to someone. And I was the first person that allowed him that safe space. And I think giving Rome grace and understanding how he thinks, because he lost his mom at a very young age. He was 10 years old when he found her.
Lex P
Oh, wow.
Jess Hilarious
You know? Mm. And like he describes it, that's the worst day of his life. And from there, his life was uprooted from being the only child in his household, being nurtured and loved on by his mom, to moving with his. I mean, his father and his stepmother, where it wasn't really an affectionate household. And it was a lot. And he had to share a room, you know, with a little brother, and then he had two other big brothers by his stepmom. So it was a lot. You know, it was different. So he would. When I. When I met him and he got comfortable enough to bring me into his world and tell me all these things, I was able to see, like, okay, this is why you're in trouble. This is why your mental ain't all like, you still trying to navigate the loss of your mom and how to cope with that, you know? And that's very heavy. So, yeah, once we, like, had a conversation, and I told him, look, yo, how about we sit down and we do vows? Hence the name of the book. It's called so deftive. We parent. Like, 10 years ago, I sat down across from Rome and I said, yo, we gonna put everything on the table. We gonna get past all our feelings. Cause it's obvious we're not gonna have a relationship. Cause I'm end up killing you. Yeah, yeah. And you're gonna end up keep on cheating if I keep taking you back. But I love you so much. Like, not even, like, intimately like, I love you. Cause I see you are really a human being that's trying to do right, but you can't. Cause of all the cards that are stacked against you, like, it's crazy. So I said, I'm going to take you, Jerome McIver. James. Don't even. Cause MacGyver. Let's just see past that.
DJ Envy
What up, y'?
Jess Hilarious
All?
DJ Envy
This is DHA Envy from the Breakfast Club. From Curtis, 50 Cent, Jackson, and the executive producers of Power, comes the Starz original series, Raisin Canaan. Kanan Stark's journey has been one of ambition and betrayal as he fights to escape the shadow of his Mother Rock, played by Tony, Grammy and NAACP award winning Patina Miller. As tensions rise, Kanan forges a dangerous alliance that sets off a war with his own blood, becoming the ruthless man he's destined to be. Raising Kanan is a story of power, family and betrayal where every choice has consequences and no one gets out clean. This final season is a must watch. You'll want to tune in for every episode as it drops. Don't let it get spoiled for you. Starring Makai Curtis, Shameik Moore, Wendell Pierce, Joey Badass, Tony Danza and more. Catch the season premiere of raising Canaan June 12th only on Starz.
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Hey everyone, it's Kal Penn. I'm the host of Irsay the Audible and iHeart Audiobook Club. This week on the podcast, I am sitting down with Ray Porter, the narrator of Andy Weir's audiobook project Hail Mary, massive sci fi adventure about survival and science and what happens when you wake up alone, very far from Earth.
Ray Porter
I really had to make a decision because I caught myself getting that frog in my throat and starting to get teary as I'm narrating some of these sections and it's like, okay, yo yo yo, is this indulgent? And I really thought about it. I was like, no. At this point it would kind of be betraying the trust the author and the listener have in telling this story if I don't go through it. But there's places in this book that that deeply, emotionally affected me and I left it on the mic. That's great because it served the story. People will say like, oh my God, I cried at the end. It's like, yeah, dude, me too.
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Lex P
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Lex P
That's his middle name.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah. McIver. McIver. And Jerome misspelled with a G. So for a minute, I was calling him Garrone.
Lex P
Jerome girl.
Jess Hilarious
I was like, everybody gonna crack on me. Cause my baby fauvin ain't grown like. But MacGyver. Kinda, you know, it kinda is a little bit.
Lex P
No, don't. It's creative. It is.
Jess Hilarious
Okay. I like it a little bit. Garrone.
Lex P
It sounds guron. Boring.
Jess Hilarious
Well, when you sing it, it sounds better, Garon. But imagine being a bitch in the middle of the street like, garrone, come outside right now. Who's the bitch? Like, you know what I'm saying, G? It was a lot. It was a lot of the moments.
Lex P
So weak.
Jess Hilarious
So the vows where I take you, Jerome McIra James, to be my lawfully wedded co parent. That we do this through sickness, through health. Broke. Because he was broke. Broke, rich, whatever. To be my co parent for life because it's till death. Like, this is not until he 18.
Lex P
Yep.
Jess Hilarious
Nah, we still gonna be his parents when he 30, when he 40. You know what I'm saying? As long as we're here, we're still his parents. And he thought it was the corniest thing at one time, at that time. But later on, he was like, nah, I like that little. I like that little fake wedding that we did. That was cool. You know what I mean? I feel like all parents, all co parents, whether they're going to be together or not, should do that for the kids sake.
Drea Nicole
Because that's so true. Like, when you really think about it, people do love to say, oh, once that baby turned 18, I don't gotta deal with this person no more. Y' all are literally gonna share grandchildren.
Jess Hilarious
What are you talking about? Yes. There's gonna be a day where y' all have to come together. What about college graduation? What about. Yeah, when you're having grandkids, family reunions. Like, we have to be able to coexist together.
Drea Nicole
Absolutely.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah.
Lex P
How do each of yalls partners feel about, like, this bond that y' all have and writing a book, like. Cause that's a lot.
Jess Hilarious
No, it is.
Lex P
If you watching your partner have vows with that. I don't know if I can handle that.
Jess Hilarious
No, you listen now. You hit the nail on the head. Cause I talk about this in the book as well. When I met the wonderful man who's my husband now, when he was just my boyfriend, Chris is his name, he had to establish some boundaries. Because, listen, we laying in the bed one night, and Rome has always had access to me. That's my man. That's my ride or die. That's my n. So he called me about anything. He'd be like, yo, I got this badass bitch with me. Like, da, da, da, da. Like, yeah. Or he send me a picture, like, was she cuter than the one I had last week? Cause I ditched this one to go with it. And I'm giving him advice and shit like that. But he called me one night, and I was laying in the bed with my then boyfriend.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
And I instantly seen him out of my peripheral, and he was looking like, she ain't just answering the phone for this nigga. And so Rome just literally, he had just got put out of one of his other baby mama's house.
Lex P
Uh, oh, okay.
Jess Hilarious
Or whatever. Cause she went through his phone when he was asleep. You know, the whole hunky story. And so I tell him what to do, and I hang up. He waited for me to get off the phone. And then Chris was like, yo, look, look, I don't know what you used to. I don't know what this is. And look, I don't want for you and your baby father to be in a bad place. I actually love that y' all are friends and that y' all can do things like that. But it's one o' clock in the morning. You're my girl. Hello? There's no way that you thought that that shit was cool. And you answered the phone.
Lex P
Yes.
Jess Hilarious
Cause he was like, it's not even about him calling you. He gonna do that. Cause that's what you've allowed. But that's also why you ain't have a successful relationship. Girl. I felt like I was. No. And I was about to eat him right back up. But then I had to think, like, I ain't trying to even lose this man.
Drea Nicole
Yeah, he's a good man, Savannah.
Lex P
Girl.
Jess Hilarious
I was like, he got his own everything. Like, no. And then I'm looking like, niggas that I had don't have shit. Okay? N That I go, yes. So. And then, like, it was a real wake up moment where it was like, you know what? Nah, that's true. And I remember we got into an argument. He was like, that's why you probably never had a. A successful relationship. Cause you so busy trying to be Your baby father's mom. You trying to police everything you do, and you trying to guide him and all of this. Where are you gonna do that for you? Cause I'm telling you, I'm about to be out the door. Like, I'm telling you. Like, I love and respect that y' all have a great relationship. But now he got too much access to you. And when he calls you in the middle of the night, it ain't even about your son. Cause your son be in his room.
Drea Nicole
Y' all chopping it up, girl.
Lex P
No, I agree with that.
Jess Hilarious
So I totally understood it. I was like, I do not want to lose this. And I also want to give myself a chance. I had not realized that, yo, I have been, like, not enabling Rome, but I have been so available to Rome that that's costed me relationships in the past.
Drea Nicole
Really?
Lex P
Yup.
Jess Hilarious
But unlike this relationship, this was something that I knew I wanted to protect. Like, my mouth get crazy. I could have been like, well, nigga, bye. Cause. And that's what I've done in the past. But it's like, you can just go be with your baby father if that's what you gonna do.
Lex P
Hello?
Jess Hilarious
And that's not happening ever in life.
Drea Nicole
Yeah. Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
So I knew, But I know I don't want that. It's how fucking weak I knew. I was like, nah, I do not want to lose you. You are so right. I'mma bite my tongue on some things I want to say. Cause this would be me just being, like, having my pride in the way and my ego. But, like, you're so right. And I had that conversation with Rome. Like, look, you can't call me at a certain time unless it's about your son. And if it ain't something that I can wait until the morning, then I'll answer the phone if it's an emergency. Cool. But if it's not, yo, we can't. He totally respected it. He said, oh, yeah, you with a man now.
Lex P
I know that's right.
Jess Hilarious
That's what's up. And so it's never been. It's never been any static for sure.
Drea Nicole
How did you.
Lex P
Go ahead.
Drea Nicole
I was just gonna say, how did you navigate that conversation? Or, like, figuring out that you needed to bite your tongue? Because I saw a clip of you recently where you went on somebody else podcast, and you was kind of talking about that, and you were saying how you would always have something to say, and in this situation, you decided, okay, I gotta pick my battles.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah, girl.
Drea Nicole
I feel like that's what I Be struggling with, too. One thing about me.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah, I'm not a woman.
Drea Nicole
A few words.
Lex P
I always got something.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. It was. It was very hard to be honest, but. But what Chris does for me, he disarms me. Cause I didn't realize, yo, I was fucked up after, like, certain relationships. And I'm not gonna blame it on Rome. Cause I jokingly said to him one day, like, yo, you keep telling me not to go out here, not to go out here and find another you, but I think you set the standard. Because you were the first gentleman that I thought I fell in love with.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
And so I was able to put up with your shit for so long, I thought that that was something that you do. Like, you stand 10 toes, you don't leave a nigga. He cheated on you once. Like, you don't like. Cause he may just be figuring it out. But then I realized how dumb that shit sounded.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
Like you don't dumb.
Lex P
Yeah, exactly.
Drea Nicole
Like, I was trying to act like that was profound.
Jess Hilarious
I seen both of y' all face. I already seen it. That's why I was like, they gonna wait till I finish this damn sentence. I was gonna wait because, yes, I was like, no, that's dumb as shit. Like, I'll never do that. And I was so young doing that, like, to keep him for the sake of our son. And trying to figure out, like, what this family dynamic would be, and it would be so perfect and lovely that I accepted a bunch of bullshit, even in relationships thereafter. Rome. And here come this real man, and he's like, look, I'm not with none of that shit. I'm not gonna say I don't care about Jessaleris, but I don't care about your brand. I wanna get to know Jessica Robin more. I don't play all that shit I seen, like, in the past. You put niggas on Front street, you roast your boyfriends, and you do all that, and you make fun of whatever y' all going through. I'm telling you right now, that's not me. We're not gonna do that.
Lex P
This ain't no roast.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Put that on Netflix, bitch. This ain't no roast. You know what I like?
Lex P
When a baby mama and a baby daddy have those corporate conversations.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah.
Lex P
When you pick up the phone, she need to be like, hello, how are you?
Drea Nicole
Not corporate parents.
Lex P
Yeah, it needs to be real corporate in this.
Drea Nicole
Listen, if he answer the phone, you like, what's up?
Jess Hilarious
What you doing? Yeah.
Lex P
No, no, it needs to sound real corporate. Over there, it do.
Jess Hilarious
That's how you know something is going on. That's why. That's why. That's the evil. I talk about it in the book. Like, you cannot keep sleeping with your baby daddy and thinking that y' all can do what me and Rome do. Me and Rome ain't slept together in over 10, 11, 12 years.
Drea Nicole
Wow. Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
Nah.
Lex P
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
Cause a lot of women will fall for, oh, no, it's just sex.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
Nah, nah. You're connecting. It's like a Bluetooth. He got your mind. It's not about what's in your pants. It's your mind. He already had what's in your pants, but he's keeping you, like, beholden to. Yeah. Like, you there. And then you get that little ounce of hope. Like, he gonna change. Cause, like, he keep. And bitches be think, oh, my God. One thing I hate about a baby mother child is be like, oh, yeah, but he's still effing me. Telling the girlfriend, he's still effing me. Yeah. Cause you're convenient. He's not gonna give you a relationship, though.
Lex P
There's this girl I know. She's always, like, being like, I gave him his first son. Like, she posts that all the time. And I be like, congratulations, girl. Let it go. And I don't wanna put too much information out there because I know her and she's cool, but it's like, okay, but y' all aren't together anymore. Like, he's moved on. He's actually, like, married now. Oh. Oh, damn. Yeah, like, he's married now. He's moved on. Like, he has a whole nother family. She's like, but I gave him his first. Like, she's all. It's very strange.
Jess Hilarious
It probably is something that makes her feel good temporarily. Because I guarantee you she don't say that before she go to bed.
Lex P
Yeah, it's very.
Jess Hilarious
She don't. She probably say it to other women in the space or online to appear to be unbothered, but you actually look more bothered because he has a wife. Yeah. So you don't have to keep on making that point. They both know that you gave him his firstborn, right? Yeah.
Drea Nicole
It makes her feel validated, probably.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah. In some type of way. But at night, like, I know it eats her up. Cause, girl, my dumb ass used to say the same thing.
Lex P
Uh.
Jess Hilarious
Oh, yeah.
Lex P
Ashton is his king.
Jess Hilarious
Boo.
Drea Nicole
Hello. No, Ashton is her king.
Jess Hilarious
Yes, that was in my bio. You know, you have a. All I need is my son, like, period.
Lex P
You was holding it down Ashton is my king.
Jess Hilarious
His king is his father. My baby forever. None of y' all can play. I cannot. I was a clown.
Lex P
I'm glad you let that go.
Jess Hilarious
Thank you.
Lex P
The red nose.
Jess Hilarious
Listen, that's the key thing to take away. Accept it. It ain't gonna be what it's gonna be, and let it go. Yeah, Yeah.
Lex P
I have one more question, then we gonna move on to the first topic.
Jess Hilarious
Okay.
Lex P
Cause I've been seeing a lot of people say, like, you're on a baby mama tour and you're praising people for being a baby mama, and you're teaching people how to be a baby mama. What do you say for the critics of that? You know? Cause they feel like it's a baby mama culture now. So how do you respond to that?
Jess Hilarious
Yeah. So they probably didn't read the book, right? Because I remember doing one podcast, it was so funny. And I could tell that they did not read the book soon as I sat down, but they lied and said they did, and I don't require everybody to read the goddamn book. I'm okay with that.
Lex P
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
But be honest about it so I can give you more, you know, details about it. Soon as I sat down, one girl was like, we finally got somebody who was ballsy enough to write a fuck your baby daddy book.
Drea Nicole
What?
Jess Hilarious
And I was like, ooh, that's the total opposite. You did not read it.
Lex P
But even if you watch your watch. Yeah.
Drea Nicole
You watch your content.
Jess Hilarious
I had never gave. Fuck my baby daddy.
Drea Nicole
Never.
Lex P
No, this ain't Sexyy Red.
Jess Hilarious
No. You know, we have those audiences out there, but that's not what. Cause you know what that narrative does, yo, that shit keeps you where you at. That shit keeps you toxic and dysfunctional, and it keeps you in a place where you are so bitter and so hurt about what your kid's father did to you that you can't even see the other side. Like, you can't even begin to think that, oh, we can get through this, we actually can be friends one day. You loved them at one point, but now you hate them, and you want to hold on to that like, that shit won't project on your kid. That's why. That's another reason why I wrote the book. But damn, I'm so mad at that, I even forgot the question.
Lex P
No, I was just.
Jess Hilarious
Oh, yeah, the baby mama club.
Lex P
But how do you react to that? Because, honestly, what did you say to the podcaster when she said that?
Jess Hilarious
I said, I know you obviously didn't read the book, girl, and you probably ain't been paying attention to me. It has never gave f my baby daddy. And she was like, oh, well, if it gives f mine. Okay, so this is the audience. Okay. So. Yeah. And this she saw. She ate that. Yeah, she sure did.
Lex P
No.
Jess Hilarious
Mm. Mm. So I got all in her business and figured out why.
Lex P
Okay. You know.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah. So that. That's what. And that's what I wanna do ultimately, with this book, is help people. Because by the end of that conversation, she even was considering hitting him up.
Lex P
Okay.
Jess Hilarious
Hitting her baby daddy up good. You know what? Nah, you're right. He did. But I could tell, like, she was still very much in her feelings and that she still was sleeping with this. She was letting him come in and sleep with her whenever it was convenient for him. And that's. So on that day, it was, fuck my baby dad. But on Tuesday, it wasn't you fucking your baby. Hello.
Lex P
You know what? This book is good because none of y' all hoes left us no baby daddies. All these n got kids. All of them.
Drea Nicole
Yeah. We ain't got nothing. No options, Lou.
Lex P
No options left.
Jess Hilarious
Damn.
Drea Nicole
Everybody gotta get stuff.
Lex P
Cause everybody we date, you know, like, we're in our 30s, so it's like. And we don't have children.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah.
Lex P
So everybody we date pretty much. If they're in our age range or up, they have children.
Jess Hilarious
And I'm not gonna lie. I'm so proud of y'.
Lex P
All.
Jess Hilarious
Because the dating pool is like shit and piss. It's like, so. And you have to be very careful. That's why I also talk about in the book, you gotta get to know a person before you create a village with this person. Like, we're creating people. And then your kids grow up and you wonder why he's shooting up shit and he going to school and he talking shit, and he. Because you didn't do a proper diagnosis on his father, you didn't evaluate this nigga at dinner, you was on the phone talking about, he got me at STK. He just spent 500 on me, bitch.
Lex P
I didn't know he was truffle butter.
Jess Hilarious
Truffle butter. Like, all of that caviar.
Lex P
Cute.
Jess Hilarious
Like, from all the scamming money. And that's crazy. I think the question on a date should be, especially when you see potential in a guy, whatever that may be these days, you gotta ask, like, yo, do you have both of your parents? And that may not be. It may not be. So, all right, cool. Who raised you? Okay, what are your thoughts and what are your, like, morals? Like, what are Your thoughts on, like, parenting? How are you when you get angry? You know what I'm saying? Like, do you ever see yourself with kids? Did you ever see yourself married? Like, these are all the questions that. That my husband asked me when he met me to the point where I was ready to get up and fight this nice.
Lex P
I ain't even asked him a math question. What's 10 plus 8 minus 2 plus 6? Ho ass nigga. Yeah, let's get.
Jess Hilarious
Damn, you got an acc.
Drea Nicole
Well, I'mma have to do that shit in my calculator first.
Lex P
Spit it out to him. You know, you gotta see if they can add and subtract.
Jess Hilarious
So if a nigga say pemdas, then
Lex P
that means that he don't. What does that mean?
Drea Nicole
But then we gotta ask him, do you remember what it mean, though?
Lex P
Yeah, yeah.
Jess Hilarious
Okay.
Drea Nicole
Parenthesis,
Lex P
exponent, exponents, multiplication, multiplication, division, division, addition.
Jess Hilarious
No, we skipping the D. No, we didn't have division. Division. Okay. Addition and subtraction. Okay.
Lex P
We would have passed. We would have passed.
Jess Hilarious
You had me fucked up on the P. We would have been like, man, what the hell the P is for? Again?
Drea Nicole
But I remember E was ex phony.
Lex P
I was gonna say Elton John.
Jess Hilarious
Elton John?
Lex P
What? Oh, it's that Tito. It done got me.
Jess Hilarious
But no, for real, you gotta get to know these people before you have sex. Like, before you have sex. I unprotected.
Drea Nicole
You do.
Jess Hilarious
Like, seriously, man. Cuz, y'. All. Y' all mixing, you know, spirits and energy, and your body is your temple.
Drea Nicole
For real.
Jess Hilarious
You don't want to just get, man. You don't want to give a man all of that and he's not, well, deserving of it. You don't.
Drea Nicole
I agree. And I think to the people that are saying that online, that are saying, like, your book is enabling, like, women becoming baby mamas to that. I always feel like at the end of the day, people still going to do the shit.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah.
Drea Nicole
So you might as well give them good advice and a guide to help them on their journey. Because women are not to stop having children for men out of wedlock. Like, it's not gonna stop happening even
Lex P
if they are married people get divorced. You know what I'm saying? Like, divorces happen and sometimes you become a baby mama for other reasons. You know what I'm saying? So I think it's good to show people how we can still be a family and make things work.
Jess Hilarious
Exactly. And that's why the name of the book is called Till Death Do We Parent. Because you think about it. Relationships end, marriages end. Not all of them, but marriages end, friendships end. Nothing ends but parenting. You will never stop being a parent. Even if you throw your kid away, you give up foster care, you know, you get. You'll never stop being that baby's parent. I love that. So that. Yeah, that's just what it is. But I didn't even see all of that. Damn, they really on there going in about me.
Lex P
I saw it.
Drea Nicole
I didn't see it.
Lex P
You are. Well, you know, I'm a tiktoker, so I'll be searching everything.
Jess Hilarious
I'm off of that.
Lex P
I search everything on Twitter. I don't be on Twitter no more
Drea Nicole
either, saying that they so nasty.
Lex P
You cancel me last month. So I stopped.
Jess Hilarious
I deleted it.
Lex P
But I search on TikTok because people, like, make videos. So every time we have a guest. Go on. I just see what is being said and what's current.
Jess Hilarious
No, I understand.
Lex P
So right now we gonna see what we drinking, right?
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Lex P
Yeah. Ty, what we drinking on today?
Jess Hilarious
Damn.
Lex P
All right. Drink another one.
Jess Hilarious
What word Are we drinking another one?
Drea Nicole
I just been telling.
Jess Hilarious
But I tell you, you made the sidecar with some different ish. Okay. Ooh, Can I tell them what you put in there?
Lex P
Go ahead. Help out. You remember?
Jess Hilarious
Yes, I remember. Okay, let's go. So she made it with. So I told her I like Hennessy or whatever, but she bought out the Doucet Honey if I do for myself.
Lex P
Okay.
Jess Hilarious
She bought that out and she said, peach snobs or was it snaps? You got it.
Drea Nicole
All right.
Lex P
Peach Snops, depending on your region.
Jess Hilarious
Guava, Right. Lemon. And then you can go ahead and say, okay, that was really good.
Lex P
No one else has ever done that.
Jess Hilarious
Girl, I love it.
Drea Nicole
So for Ms. Jess. Hilarious. This is called Jess with the mattress.
Jess Hilarious
Cause her mess is real.
Drea Nicole
And we got some cognac, like she said. We have some peach schnapps. We have some Simone and guava syrup, some lemon juice. And then I added some San Pellegrino lemonada. So that's giving a little bit of carbonation. That's the one you missed. But I got it.
Jess Hilarious
I got you.
Drea Nicole
And then we garnished it with. I took like a orange peel and made it into a flower. And then I actually added some mini flowers inside of it, so it's like a bouquet.
Jess Hilarious
So pretty. I wanted it to last, but it was so good.
Lex P
I know. She said, I didn't know Doucet had a W in it. The deuce. I said, what it do? Hold on. Wait a minute. I Love a pop. I love it. That shit is funny as hell.
Drea Nicole
They said y' all sound British, low key.
Jess Hilarious
They do. No, that's what they said until I went over there and they was like, no, you don't. I was like. I was like, all right, don't do all that. But no. And I also did the audiobook, so y' all can hear all the do's and yous and.
Lex P
Oh, I'm finna listen to it.
Jess Hilarious
I hear I am. Yes. That actually, actually is what got me number one on Amazon for Audible from you. Everybody wanted that's like the highest sales to audible. Like audio.
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Jess Hilarious
Cause everybody was like, oh, no, we gotta hear it. We read it.
Drea Nicole
Cause I love your voice too.
Jess Hilarious
I don't wanna hear it like this.
Drea Nicole
She said, thank you.
Lex P
Okay, let's get into this first topic finally. Okay. How do you feel about prominent women sharing their success and their spotlight with their boyfriends or fathers of their children? So I saw a post and it was basically saying, women, a lot of times we are extremely successful at, you know, our jobs or whatever we do.
Drea Nicole
Yes.
Lex P
And social media is currency nowadays, so a lot of times women will build their platform like as you have or so many other women in the beauty industry, whatever it may be.
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Jess Hilarious
All?
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Ray Porter
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Lex P
Then they get in a relationship or they get married and then all of a sudden their boyfriend comes a part of their content. And then, you know, they're making this man money, you know, building up who they are. And then when they a lot of one, their audience doesn't want to see that. Maybe they're used to seeing her or, you know, then they split up and he gets to basically live off of your name. So I wanted to talk to you about this. Being that, you know, you have men that. And this is no shade to them. Like, if they weren't connected to you, we probably wouldn't know who they were.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah.
Lex P
So how do you feel about that? Like women sharing their social media currency with their partners.
Jess Hilarious
Mm. See, how I felt about it was like, shit, why not? Let's do it. Like, if you with me and you with me for all the right reasons, let's go ahead and do it. You know what I mean? But what I've learned from this shit is everybody does not deserve that chance.
Lex P
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
You know the reason why I'm okay with Jerome or Gurome. Gurome doing it is because you're right. Is because Rome is like, that's my son's dad. You know what I mean? Rome has always had a job. Had a job and had bitches. There are two things that he know. How to keep. Bitches and jobs. Like it don't matter what. No matter what. But I've always wanted to. Wanted to see him win because I feel like Rome got so much potential to be some type of public figure. He just gotta get. He gotta get it all the way together. But like, I've always saw in Rome some type of star quality. You feel me? I always said, if Ray J and Bow Wow made a baby, it'll be wrong.
Lex P
I am weak.
Jess Hilarious
Who he is or who he act like.
Lex P
That's a nice collaboration though.
Jess Hilarious
It sure is. Cuz they. Cuz both of them got star quality. They know how to go viral. They know how to. To appeal to everyone. And they're straight. Pure entertainment. That is Jerome. You know what I mean? So I always felt like that. But as far as ex boyfriends. Hmm. Do I regret that part of it? Yeah. Because for a while I had became the laughingstock. Like by giving someone the limelight and like, kind of control, Right? Like, I used to do a bit about a nigga that was cheating on me with strippers and all of that type of shit. Cause I'm a stand up comedian. I used to take my ex on stage and like, put him up there and talk about how he cheated on me. And I'm thinking like, yeah, they bagging on him. Like they ragging on him when I'm really the joke. It was so tasteless. And it was like, bitch, are you serious? No. You know what I mean?
Lex P
You done went through some things.
Jess Hilarious
What?
Lex P
Don't leave that out the book. We ain't Gonna put that apart.
Jess Hilarious
I would never had nowhere. But y' all asked me. This is a wonderful topic. And this is the perfect time to say, don't do it unless you know that person is good for you. Because, to be honest, I think it's great to show another layer to you. Like, I'm now married. I've been trying to pull my husband into content. And he's like, nah, I don't want the whole thing. I ain't with. Nah, I ain't with that. Cause I'm not up for everybody to discuss. I'm not up for nah. And that's why I say, yo, I really do want to protect this. But I love the man he is. I just want to be like, look, y' all the fuck.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
Finally it's happening for your girl. You know what I mean? And he's like, nah, we not doing that.
Drea Nicole
Yeah, but I get where he coming from. Because the Internet can just be so unforgiving. Once you put them out there, it's like your intent might be good, but then the reception from them. They gonna be trying to pick y' all relationship apart.
Lex P
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
And I know that I'm ready for it. Cause I don't give a damn what nobody say about, you know, about my man or whatever. I know him. You know, Back then, I couldn't get online and be like, I know where my nigga at?
Drea Nicole
Cause I didn't.
Jess Hilarious
And other bitches were telling me, uh, oh, you know what I'm saying? And just any. Any and every relationship that y' all have seen, just hilarious. And somebody was telling me where he was at, you know? But it's not like that now. And so my husband is often like. So no, if you feel like this is to protect. The only way that I'll do any of this is if they offering us a big bag to put our family. Cause he feels like. Like, he always brings up, like, T.I. and Tiny's, like, Grand Hustle reality show. He was like, I love those type of runs house. And he likes that where they actually show, like, family. He's like, yeah, that's the only way I'll do any type of reality tv. I don't want to be in no skits. I don't want to be anybody's amusement for free. You shouldn't put your kids, our kids, me, you online for nobody's entertainment. Like, we not doing that.
Lex P
But do y' all feel like black people hide their relationships too much? Like, they feel like black people do that compared to, like, other races? Like, we Be like, oh, I'm not posting him. Or I'll post his hand. Or I'll post. He'll post her shoe or something. Do y' all feel like we're too secretive?
Jess Hilarious
I feel like nobody really care a lot.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
Like when you. Especially when somebody do a date, somebody will, like, post a nigga hand. It's like, bitch, we don't give a fuck.
Drea Nicole
Or when they be posting the body and then they cut the head off.
Lex P
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
It's like, at this point, don't post nothing. Cause now you a clown a little bit. You know what I mean? You want us to know that somebody's doing something for you. Make a video and say it. Right. So my man had took me to stk. Yeah, y' all would never know who he is.
Kal Penn
The big.
Jess Hilarious
You know. But, like, don't ever post a nigga and put a big ass flower emoji over his face.
Lex P
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
No, I don't think how you feel do it?
Drea Nicole
No, no. I've never been the type of like that. But as I get older, though, if I'm being real, I feel like people don't do it because they got something to hide.
Lex P
Yeah.
Drea Nicole
Like, every dude that I've ever dated that I didn't post them on my social media, it was because I knew they probably wouldn't do it right. And I was embarrassed. Like, I knew if I posted them, it was probably gonna be some that I ended up finding out if I. I posted that nigga. That I don't think I necessarily wanted to find out and see ignorance be bleak.
Jess Hilarious
Hey, and see, that's the thing. That's what I wasn't thinking about enough. I was posting everybody.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
And y' all done seen me through, you know, a few relationships, you know what I mean? And I feel like that's what. I didn't have enough. I wish I would have done that. But I learned from that. And now y' all can see, my husband, he don't have a problem with me posting him, but he's like, I'm not going to actively be a part of me of your skits and all of that type of shit. N. Cuz I. I'm a real, like, man, and I got my own business going on and things like that. And I. I'm not about to be
Lex P
saying a lot of people try to do that, though. Like, if, like, the woman is more popular, they try to be like, oh, he's just riding her coattail, ain't got no money.
Jess Hilarious
And that is what. Oh, no.
Drea Nicole
And I used to ride that privacy train. Like, I used to be like, oh, I'm just being private. I just want to be private. But I feel like if you would have. Why are you being proud?
Jess Hilarious
You could show him.
Drea Nicole
You could show him.
Jess Hilarious
It's like, show him.
Lex P
Yes.
Drea Nicole
And then like, they'll be like, well, I feel like once you start posting, people. People will try to ruin a relationship. Can't nobody ruin nothing. That's solid.
Jess Hilarious
No, And I'm with you. I don't like when women say that and people get upset because people will call up. I do like, a segment called Jess Fix My Mess every Thursday on the Breakfast Club. And girls call up and they give me so many testimonies like why they don't post their dude or why they don't post. Because, like, you know, he really like to stay low key. Why?
Drea Nicole
Yep.
Jess Hilarious
Why? What is he doing? And are you afraid to find out some shit so you don't want to? I said. And my advice is always post that nigga. Go ahead. Love him out loud. What's up? See what you find out.
Lex P
I think for me. Cause then you'll know the truth, right?
Jess Hilarious
And then you'll be calling me next week.
Lex P
Well, I think for me, it was like. Cause I was in business before poor mine started. Every nigga I had, I was posting like, every. Like, you can go on my Facebook right now and you can see all my old boyfriends.
Jess Hilarious
You ain't even delete them.
Lex P
Hell no. Memories.
Jess Hilarious
I know, that's right.
Lex P
Memories.
Jess Hilarious
They all are memories.
Lex P
But the thing is, now I already get anxiety when people talk about me. So I think, like, the reason, like, I don't like to post people I'm dating now being on Poor Minds is just like, y' all finna be. I'm not worried about what y' all gonna tell me about him or me. Sometimes I be worried about what y' all gonna tell him about me.
Jess Hilarious
Oh, my God.
Lex P
Well, I need to be outside. But besides that, I just feel like when I read the comments sometimes and things people say about me, I'm like, oh, my God, y' all are so mean. So I just think, like, I don't think I can mentally handle people talking about me, talking about my relationship. Y' all already saying, she too loud. This show stinks. Then you can talk about my man, too. Yeah, one thing at a time. Hoe ass niggas.
Jess Hilarious
I know that's right.
Lex P
Yeah, one thing at a time. But they gonna do it anyway. I know.
Jess Hilarious
Cause y' all are so successful, and then y' all are y' all 24, seven. Y' all don't put on no act. That's the best thing, you know, so that always get attacked. Like, what? But you know at the same time. Delete those pictures.
Lex P
Delete them home.
Jess Hilarious
Yes.
Lex P
You know what's crazy though? The reason I haven't deleted them is because, honestly, the only reason I know they're still there. Cause when I log on my Facebook to get on my actual Lex P page. Cause this is my personal one and it's private. So you know how Facebook will be like, this is what you were doing 16 years ago. So I was like, oh, there go that nigga. I wonder what happened to him. So I just haven't had the time to like, scroll. But I don't actively use that page.
Jess Hilarious
Okay, good.
Lex P
Yeah, no, I'm not on there like talking to people. And literally it's only like, I'm only friends with people from high school and my family. Like, I probably have like a thousand followers on there if that.
Jess Hilarious
Cause I'm like, what if you have a potential right now? And he is like, like runner up, right against somebody else who is a potential too, and he is trying to win and he go and he scroll down.
Lex P
You better fight for my love. May the best. I love a duel. Please duel over this pussy. You know I like to see niggas fight, right? Duel for it. We need to bring back wars N used to fight for they women.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah, they did. Do y' all remember Boyz I Men? It was a song back in the day. This is why I wish R and B singers was like they was back in the day. That nigga said, baby, I knew you ran out with that other guy.
Lex P
Uh huh.
Jess Hilarious
And I saw you. I just didn't care. Yeah. Cause I knew you was mine.
Lex P
Like what?
Drea Nicole
Yes. Was that all the.
Jess Hilarious
Yes, that was all. That's what we need to bring back.
Lex P
He said I can't let go, bitch.
Jess Hilarious
He said I didn't care.
Lex P
He wanted to say that's my pussy. That's what he wanted to say. That's what he wanted to say.
Drea Nicole
That's what remix.
Lex P
That's the other release version.
Jess Hilarious
It is. It is.
Lex P
All right, so now it's time to
Drea Nicole
get into the bow.
Jess Hilarious
The.
Lex P
Y' all know the bed is always sponsored by salt.
Drea Nicole
XO y' all know we love us some salt. XO y'.
Lex P
All.
Drea Nicole
I be trying to tell y' all get that coochie right when you on the go and when you at home. She also has travel sizes. It's Going to keep your PH balance. It's all natural. Natural ingredients. And that's why I love it. It smells amazing. It's gonna have you smelling amazing.
Lex P
And your man can use it too. Do you like coochie wash? Do you use coochie wash or no?
Jess Hilarious
I mean, I wash my coochie, but, like, what is this? You gonna get? Am I gonna leave with some?
Lex P
Yeah, I'm gonna send you home with some because it works so good. Because I have a sensitive vagina.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah.
Lex P
You don't like everything.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah.
Lex P
So sometimes it makes it react. Yeah. Sometimes them lips be. When they go like you said, it's
Jess Hilarious
me, it means they don't like it. Okay.
Lex P
They were like. But this works for sensitive coochie. So we gonna send you home one to let us know if you like, please. Okay. So we gonna talk about orgasms.
Jess Hilarious
Okay.
Lex P
And we gonna talk about how big are your orgasms. Because about 95% of heterosexual men say they usually are always have orgasms during sex. But compared to only 65% of heterosexual women. And then lesbians have a 86% rate.
Drea Nicole
Success rate.
Lex P
Success rate of orgasms. Okay. Research also shows that less than 20% of women have an orgasm from penetration alone. Okay. A huge factor is that a lot of women, we require clitoral stimulation. And a lot of men don't even know what that clit is.
Kal Penn
Yeah.
Lex P
You know what I'm saying?
Drea Nicole
I need a clit.
Lex P
Yeah, y'.
Jess Hilarious
All. Yo, listen. I used to call it a clit.
Drea Nicole
I did, like, and that's how you know we shouldn't have been fussing.
Jess Hilarious
Whole top. Dumb as shit. Yeah.
Lex P
I like calling it a click. Cause you need to click that button.
Jess Hilarious
You do.
Lex P
Yo, you got to click that button on. Doot, doot. You know how annoying it is, like, if a man is eating your coochie, but he's, like, eating your actual, like, whole. Ain't nothing else.
Jess Hilarious
It's not comfortable. What are you doing? Just, like, back away, Ty.
Lex P
You a freak. She said. Well, she said.
Jess Hilarious
I like. She like. Nah.
Lex P
Yeah. Yeah. So. So I wanna talk about if y' all remember the first time you had an orgasm.
Jess Hilarious
Ooh.
Lex P
Like, with a man. Have you been with a woman?
Jess Hilarious
Girl, yeah, but I ain't never had no organisms with a. No, I ain't never had no organisms with a woman.
Lex P
Okay.
Jess Hilarious
No, I can tell you. I can literally tell you. 20, 23. Ooh.
Lex P
Oh, this was recent.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah. Okay. Yes.
Lex P
Now I see why you married.
Drea Nicole
You gotta marry that man. Yeah.
Lex P
What we talking about?
Drea Nicole
Listen,
Jess Hilarious
I almost proposed to Him.
Drea Nicole
It be like that the first time, though. It really do.
Jess Hilarious
I was like, what the happened? Listen, I didn't even realize what was going on in your whole body. Your whole body vibrating. Then you like. It's like a fucking. It's like an outer body experience.
Lex P
Yes. I love that for you.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah.
Lex P
But I think a lot of we. We need to talk about this because a lot of us have orgasms so much later in life. And then you have to realize, I mean, if we're being honest, a lot of us start having sex as teens, right? Like late teens. And we have sex for years. And so we start to think, okay, this is what sex is.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah.
Lex P
Men are all. They gonna get they nut off. And we're like, okay, maybe it's not normal. Then we start masturbating and kind of learning what an orgasm feels like. So then we separate the two. But. But that same feeling that you get from that vibrator should be the same feeling that you get when you're having sex. Listen, but more emotional.
Jess Hilarious
It is so many things. Like, I squirt for the first time in 2023. I mean, hello.
Lex P
Come on now.
Jess Hilarious
I was like, spider man, bitch. I'm like, I could do that.
Lex P
Did not know.
Jess Hilarious
I'm telling you, I'm loving my marriage. So you over there having a. I
Lex P
was like, I would have posted that nigga too.
Jess Hilarious
Excuse me.
Lex P
Hello. I'm in school for the first time. Look, I told Rome, look, nigga, it
Jess Hilarious
ain't till death till we parent no more. I'm done. Like, hold up.
Lex P
Poor girl.
Jess Hilarious
My business hours are from.
Drea Nicole
Let's end this shit now.
Jess Hilarious
Nine to five, bitch. I can't. I'm weak. Not no more.
Lex P
Yes, but I mean, I'm glad that you said that, because 2023, that's very recent. That's very recent. A lot of women don't wanna.
Jess Hilarious
In my 30s.
Lex P
And we say this all the time. And this is why I'm glad that you said, even having sex with somebody, you need to be selective because this is your body, this is your temple. And if we felt more comfortable with our partners, we could be like, hey, this doesn't feel good to me. Let's try this. Sex should be fun, right? And I feel like even nowadays when we talk about sex on poor minds, they're like, oh, my God, this is so. We're all having it. Yeah. Why can't we talk about sex?
Jess Hilarious
Why can't we be open about learning our bodies? I did not know how to have an orgasm. I didn't know how it went. Like, I just, I just did not know. And I'm out here having all these sex and all this sex in my 20s and yeah. And I'm pleasing men, but I'm not even realizing like what it's like to be pleased. Cause it's like, no, I've never vibrated out the bed. Like, I've never like had a conniption. And so my 30s, I'm like, oh my God, yes. You know what I mean? It is definitely a beautiful feeling. And once you do it, you gonna be chasing that forever.
Lex P
Yes. For real.
Drea Nicole
And I think as women too, like, why are we so afraid to let men know when they're not pleasing us? We feel like we gotta fake it. We feel like we gotta make them feel like it feel good and they doing a good job. When in reality you not like you not licking the click.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah.
Drea Nicole
You're not licking the click.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah, I got a joke about that on stage. Or I say that I'm like, ladies, we're not as forthcoming as we should be because we be cheating trying to save these guys ego and the pride. And we don't want you to. Oh my God, we don't want you to crumble and things like that. But it's like, nah, we're doing that at the expense of our discomfort, like our comfort. Like, no.
Lex P
And I think that's what society has taught us too. Like all the songs are like, oh, I got the best pussy, I got my coochie height. But it's like, but you're still not getting what you want out of the situation.
Jess Hilarious
And that's why they be rapping so hard, you know?
Lex P
Can I tell you, if you line up 10 men, nine of that, nine of them, that dick trash. I promise you I agree. Nine of them ain't stroking on.
Jess Hilarious
But you can't. But they will never admit it cuz they don't know. Cuz we don't tell them the truth.
Drea Nicole
We don't.
Lex P
I'm telling you every. We've talked about this on a old episode before and we had clipped it. It was so many men, like, not me, not me. So then who is it? So you're telling me not whatever statistic I said all these women are lying. No, we're telling the truth. But we're telling the truth to each other instead of telling it to y'. All. So this is for the men that are watching out here. Please just go home and talk to your partner. She probably gonna lie to you, but why don't you just ask Her. Hey, what do you wanna do in bed tonight? What can I do for you to please you?
Jess Hilarious
Oh, my God. Listen, you. Girl. Okay, see, this is what. Ty, this is your fault. But I swear those were the words. Like, yo, my husband asked me that. But before he was my husband, that nigga was like, what you want me to do to you?
Lex P
Yeah. What? I got asked that.
Jess Hilarious
Don't ever ask me. Cause and then I didn't even know. I was like, I literally. I'm being like having a real fucking moment with y' all being transparent. Like, I was like, I don't know what you want to do. Yeah. And he went like, I love that for you from the.
Drea Nicole
And then y' all figured out what
Jess Hilarious
y' all like, hello. And I was like, oh, I do like this. Cause I'm gonna tell you right now, I did not like oral sex. Cause a nigga bit me before he bit the clip. I was like, yeah, you can't literally eat the pussy. Goofy ass. Yes. Like a little rat. I was just like, what the fuck
Lex P
is wrong with you?
Jess Hilarious
And so I never, ever, ever liked. Like, head. I never liked.
Lex P
Oh, my goodness.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah, I was fucked up. Like, I got bit when I was like 20, 27. So I was like, no, he said fuck with that. So I was a little scared for him to do it, but he like, that. Child, stop playing. Yeah, like you said, like she said, ask your. Ask your girl or your woman, your wife, whatever. What do you want me to do? Like, how do you want to be pleased?
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
Cause that's exactly what he asked me and I did not have an answer. So he just did what he was supposed to do.
Lex P
I know that. And side note.
Drea Nicole
Cause sex isn't one size fits all.
Lex P
One size definitely don't fit all in this pussy. Hey, I know that's right. Yeah, you gotta come on with it. But side note. And I wanna give you a comment because body type.
Drea Nicole
Yes.
Lex P
Thank you a lot. I don't. You know, when we talk about fine ass comedians and stuff, you know, people want to talk about some more. We gotta talk about Jess. Hilarious.
Drea Nicole
We do.
Lex P
That body knows crazy. I mean, we already know you're beautiful.
Drea Nicole
You have a beautiful face.
Jess Hilarious
Thank you.
Lex P
But when I saw your body, I was like, damn, your body is lame.
Jess Hilarious
Was crazy.
Lex P
It don't look like no kids done
Jess Hilarious
came out that body.
Lex P
From all. You know, Chris was like, let me turn this bitch up.
Jess Hilarious
Hello.
Lex P
I know when you got. He was like, I gots to go to work pregnant.
Jess Hilarious
I had the baby and he had me in the gym, like four weeks after that. He listen, this man be like. This man be like, no, come on, let's get in the gym. Come on, let's do it. Because I know you gonna get back down to where you were. Yeah, and he helped work me out that body.
Lex P
There's a lot of abs on this couch, right?
Drea Nicole
Okay.
Lex P
See me over here, all my ladies, if y' all want a little roll.
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Jess Hilarious
All?
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Lex P
Gonna sit over here. All right, all right. Okay. What else we got time for?
Drea Nicole
So now it's time to get into our favorite segment of the show, which is pour your heart out.
Jess Hilarious
Just you can give good advice. I do. I do.
Lex P
Of course.
Jess Hilarious
Duh.
Drea Nicole
We know that. Just had, say, ask poor minds Gmail dot com. That's a S K P O U R M I n d s gmail.com make sure y' all send us y' all questions and y' all testimonials. Now, we used to get testimonials, and they wasn't that good. So we trying to change that. We trying to start giving better advice.
Jess Hilarious
Okay, okay, okay.
Drea Nicole
So it says, hey, girls, first off, I love you down. I was in a relationship for almost two years, and everything was good until a girl DM'd me, saying she been messing with my man. After confronting him, he admitted it was true and had been going on for a while. We broke up, but later met.
Jess Hilarious
Hold on. Wait.
Drea Nicole
Later met up to talk? Oh, sorry.
Jess Hilarious
It's. It's written all. Damn, she really wrote it.
Drea Nicole
We broke. We broke up, but later met up to talk. And he apologized and admitted that he was selfish. During the conversation, he asked if I was ever crossed, if I ever crossed the line, too. And I admitted that a few months earlier, I did something inappropriate that could definitely be considered cheating, even though it didn't go as far as his situation. We've been broken up for about three months now, and he wants to get back together. I still love him, but I know we both have things that we need to work on before jumping back in. Do y' all Think reconciliation is possible after both people messed up?
Jess Hilarious
I do think so. I do think so. Obviously, she was covering up things. He was too. He. I think that she always knew. She always had, like, maybe some type of inkling that he was doing something, and she started doing something, you know, instead of, like, confronting him when she thought it. That. That's. Cause that sounds very similar to me. I was in a situation like, like many, many years ago. But, yeah, I think it is. It is definitely possible that both of them can reconcile now. They gotta put everything on the table, though. Like. Cause I don't believe he only had that one situation that she found out. I just think that's the first thing that the only thing that she found out. And I don't think she only did one thing too. Cause, you know, you gotta think about it. She was trying to get her mind off this nigga, and. And there's plenty ways to do that.
Drea Nicole
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
And she did that. And she's reconsidering going back, so.
Lex P
And sometimes you gotta think about the only reason you found out is. Cause the girl told you. He wasn't gonna be honest.
Jess Hilarious
He wasn't. But I like how he didn't lie.
Lex P
Right.
Jess Hilarious
I think he was like, you know what? Yeah, you got me. You know what I mean? But I do think that they both need to come clean about whatever else that they got going on if they do wanna give it a fair shot, to be honest. Cause I do think like. Like, people, they live and they learn. They mess up and they learn, you know, a lot of people don't get second and third chances. A lot of people do. I think they both need to come clean, put it all on the table. Like, me and Rome did move forward, and now me and Rome didn't move forward together, but I think they can if they're honest about it. It's definitely possible.
Lex P
I'm laughing at us with these stars. Remember, everybody was getting.
Drea Nicole
Oh, you got some too.
Lex P
I got some.
Jess Hilarious
Yes. I got some stars to wear.
Lex P
What's. I was inspired by Rihanna, too. Yes. That's why I said, rihanna, you will pay for your crown.
Drea Nicole
I have a gun right here, too.
Lex P
You do remember Rihanna.
Jess Hilarious
Rihanna got the gun.
Lex P
Yes.
Jess Hilarious
You got the gun.
Drea Nicole
I do got the gun.
Jess Hilarious
Damn. That's crazy.
Lex P
That's different.
Drea Nicole
We was all inspired by Rihanna.
Jess Hilarious
That was my girl. She played a whole crew influencer in my life.
Lex P
Hello, crew influencer. Okay, J, let everybody know where they can go get the book right now. Where to follow you at, where to find you at, all that okay, so
Jess Hilarious
it's your girl, Jess, Hilarious official on Instagram. Jess Hilarious on Twitter. I don't be on there to somebody else. It's not me, but it's my page. Okay. Cause y' all mean this shit on. There they are, period. Facebook, Jess Hilarious official. Also, you can find the book in stores, all bookstores online. Jessalariosofficial.com, barnesandnoble.com, wherever you get your books, you can find it. And then also the audiobook. Get that. Cause that's what got me Bestseller on Amazon. So I'm gonna need to get a New York Times bestseller with y'. All.
Drea Nicole
And we need to clap for.
Lex P
That's a big deal.
Jess Hilarious
Thank you. Thank you so much. I'm number one in three different categories on Amazon.
Lex P
Congratulations.
Jess Hilarious
Amazing. Yes.
Lex P
I mean, you've been working.
Drea Nicole
You have.
Lex P
You have been working. Now, you know, we on Tour still sipping 2026. What city you pulling up to? Ooh, you gotta let us know.
Drea Nicole
We everywhere, too.
Jess Hilarious
We everywhere.
Drea Nicole
We gonna be in New York.
Lex P
Are y' all dc?
Jess Hilarious
Are y'. All.
Lex P
Y'?
Jess Hilarious
All? I was about to say, are y' all going there?
Drea Nicole
In my home?
Jess Hilarious
Baltimore, D.C. virginia.
Drea Nicole
I want to be in D.C. i
Jess Hilarious
might pull up with y' all in
Lex P
D.C. okay, let us know.
Jess Hilarious
Cause I. Cause no. Cause for real. Like, if I don't got shows or whatever, like, yo, everybody love Dre and Lex. Everybody love four months. Y' all don't fucking understand. Oh, maybe y' all do understand, bitch. Nah, everybody loves y'.
Lex P
All.
Drea Nicole
We don't get tired of hearing it.
Lex P
I don't.
Drea Nicole
I think you need to hear that
Jess Hilarious
because people be mean.
Drea Nicole
Cause people do be mean.
Jess Hilarious
No, they do be mean. But. Nah, for real, that means you doing something. Cause if y' all wasn't making no noise, y' all would have all. Y' all wouldn't have no reviews. No, listen, I'm telling you. Look, my aunt, she is 53, and she was like, you need to get up on there with poor minds. You know them girls that I don't. I don't think that they. I don't think that. I don't think that they have kids or whatever, but I think you need to go up on there and talk about your book. I said, I know them auntie like that auntie.
Lex P
We.
Jess Hilarious
No, trust me. But that's the auntie that was like freaknik back in the day. Like, they gonna catch. Cause they going on tour, and 85 south always showed them love and that. And y' all people love Y' all, all ages. Thank you. So stop playing. We love you. We gotta do.
Drea Nicole
We love you.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah, we do. When I'm not promoting the book so I can get a little bit more raunchy.
Lex P
Yes.
Jess Hilarious
Yeah. Cause right now I'm an author.
Lex P
And I'm glad that you wrote the
Drea Nicole
book, though, because when I do have kids in a few years, I'm gonna refer to. Do we parent, please.
Lex P
Y' all gonna stay together. We gonna stay together.
Drea Nicole
No, we are.
Jess Hilarious
But I'm saying the book is still
Drea Nicole
gonna help me out because it's gonna help me with my parenting.
Jess Hilarious
Good.
Lex P
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
Cause it's not only for people that don't wanna be together. It's for people that co parent under the same roof. Okay. You know, that's working on relationships. Separate people that are separated, they're married but separated. They're trying to figure it out and get back together. Listen, sometimes your kid reminds you, like, oh, no, we need to do this together. Cause we made this kid in love.
Lex P
You know?
Jess Hilarious
And then sometimes it be like, shit, no, fuck, fuck you and fuck you.
Lex P
But I'm gonna have to get into my baby daddy. Cause I'm gonna be outside in the streets and he gonna be mad. He gonna be like, babe, this ball.
Jess Hilarious
Okay, Cardi. I know.
Lex P
Well, thank you so much.
Jess Hilarious
So much.
Lex P
This was so fun. This was so much fun. Y' all make sure y' all follow her and we'll see y' all soon on tour. Still stipping. Oh, that's she want to say.
Drea Nicole
Still tipping so bad every time.
Lex P
Still tipping, but still sipping.
Drea Nicole
20, 26.
Lex P
We'll see y' all on tour and we'll see y' all next week.
Jess Hilarious
Bye, y'. All.
Lex P
Yeah, we got just. And the giggles in the building when
Jess Hilarious
you first meet that.
Lex P
Yeah.
Jess Hilarious
And she a side and she thinks she along for the ride O. Don't worry about the sign that's all right.
Lex P
That's all right.
Jess Hilarious
Okay. It was love at first sight yeah, I know from the way she looked at me yeah, her eyes said it all Long days and nights we spent until she dropped the bomb on me and when she said that she was unhappily married with children and I wish I never met her at all Even though I love her so but she's
Drea Nicole
got love for me but she still
Jess Hilarious
belongs to someone else it hurts so bad for sure
Drea Nicole
because she wants to be with me.
Jess Hilarious
But she cannot be with me and she chose to stay hey, everybody at home. So they can be a family for the children. Yeah, but what about me? But I wish I never met her at all Even though I love her so she's got love for me me oh yeah but she still belongs to
Lex P
someone else
Jess Hilarious
maybe in another life Things would be the way we both desire it's a catch 22
Lex P
either way you
Jess Hilarious
win someone had to lose and I wish I never met her oh even though I love her so she's got love for me but she still belongs to someone else she do, she do
Lex P
do oh
Jess Hilarious
at all at all Even though I love her so she's got love for me but she still belongs to someone else I wish I wish
Lex P
I never met her at all it good
Jess Hilarious
I wish I hurt so much inside Period. Hell hell
Lex P
that girl is good y' all give it up for just one more time.
Jess Hilarious
Thank you Hell hell shut up Sounded like somebody uncle took me to the trouble Sa.
Lex P
Foreign.
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Jess Hilarious
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Lex P
Really?
Jess Hilarious
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Jess Hilarious
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Jess Hilarious
And you just put in your info and boom. Cars in your budget.
Kal Penn
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Jess Hilarious
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Lex P
One sec, sweetie. Mommy's buying a car. Mommy, look. I think your kid is walking up the slide. Kyle.
Jess Hilarious
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Lex P
Really?
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Lex P
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Jess Hilarious
Guaranteed Human.
Date: June 5, 2026
Hosts: Drea Nicole & Lex P (Poor Minds)
Guest: Jess Hilarious
Podcast Network: The Black Effect Podcast Network & iHeartPodcasts
This episode of Pour Minds welcomes comedian, actress, entrepreneur, radio host, author, wife, and mother Jess Hilarious for an open, hilarious, and raw conversation about modern co-parenting, dealing with public criticism, relationship dynamics, sex, and personal growth. With her new book Till Death Do We Parent as a springboard, Jess shares her transformative co-parenting journey, the realities of blending fame and relationships, setting boundaries, healing past trauma, and embracing self-worth and honest communication.
"You gotta ask, like, yo, do you have both of your parents? Who raised you? What are your morals and thoughts on parenting? How do you get angry? These are all the questions my husband asked me when he met me, to the point where I was ready to get up and fight him." – Jess Hilarious ([03:13])
"How the fuck was I ever canceled?.. Sitting in that room, I was like, yeah, I have never seen—I’ve never went that damn, like, ever. Right?" ([06:29])
“I just think it's a lot more homeless motherfuckers out here now.” ([10:03])
“I get paid to come and talk ish with two bald head niggas all day, and they like my brothers ... Then I left, had my baby, came back ... waters got murky and shit. Trying to figure out, like, okay, so she gonna stay? ... It was a big verbal kerfuffle on air... [Radio] was very different. It’s things that I can’t say, things I can’t talk about … it’s politics of radio and shit." ([13:18]–[15:58])
"I sat down across from Rome and I said, yo, we gonna put everything on the table… [and] do vows. Hence the name of the book: Till Death Do We Parent. … I take you, Jerome McIver James, to be my lawfully wedded co-parent. ... Because it's til death. Like, this is not until he 18." ([22:45], [26:23])
"That’s probably why you never had a successful relationship—'cause you so busy trying to be your baby father's mom, trying to police everything you do..." – Chris ([29:08])
Letting Go of “Baby Mama” Tropes
Responding to Critics
“That narrative keeps you toxic and dysfunctional … you actually look more bothered because he has a wife … I was a clown. I'm glad I let that go.” ([36:02], [35:31])
"If you with me and you with me for all the right reasons, let’s go ahead and do it. … But what I’ve learned is everybody does not deserve that chance."
"You can't call me at a certain time unless it’s about your son ... He totally respected it." ([31:09])
"Y’all finna be—I’m not worried about what y’all gonna tell me about him or me. Sometimes I be worried about what y’all gonna tell him about me." ([57:02])
"I'm not enabling Rome but I have been so available to Rome that’s cost me relationships in the past... But unlike this relationship, this was something that I knew I wanted to protect." ([30:24])
"Accept it. It ain't gonna be what it's gonna be, and let it go." ([36:04])
"Why are we so afraid to let men know when they're not pleasing us?" – Drea ([64:49])
"Cause we be trying to save these guys' ego and the pride. ... We're doing that at the expense of our comfort.” – Jess ([65:05])
“If you line up 10 men, 9 of them—that dick trash.” ([65:49])
Jess Hilarious brings both candor and comedy as she shares hard-learned, deeply personal lessons about co-parenting, relationship boundaries, emotional healing, and how women can empower themselves in both parenting and pleasure. The conversation is open, unfiltered, and filled with moments of both laughter and reflection, showing just how messy, funny, and beautiful life can get—especially when you learn to let go.
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