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Draya
I'm Brian, I work at United Healthcare. So Brian, why do you care?
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Draya
I see people walking in my office
Lex P
every day just like my parents.
Draya
They have no idea about the health care.
Lex P
I feel like they are my Uncles, aunties.
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I treated people like family.
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I'm Brian, and I'm committed to care.
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Draya
I seen this the other day. This has nothing to do with anything that we just talked about. It just popped up on my mind. Now, y' all know when in the Internet nowadays, and we've talked about beno surgery and bbls before, right? And I think the most common thing that people say about bbls is, oh, my God, Ew. BBLS look crazy. You look so. Oh, my God, they look so fake. Horrible. Oh, everybody has the same type of body. And everybody talks so bad about bbls. But you know what I've noticed? When they see a girl with a nice body and they know she doesn't have a bbl, they'll use that to compliment her. Oh, girl, it look like you got a bbl. It's giving bbl. So what's the truth, ho ass niggas, what is the truth? If y' all are saying, oh, it's giving bbl, but then you saying bbl. What? What is it? What is that truth?
Lex P
Yeah, I think that is so weird
Draya
because if a girl openly says, oh, I have a bbl, you're like, ugh, stank, nasty, whore. Then another girl will have a. Cause there's some girls who literally look like they have a bbl and they don't. Yeah, they'll be like, ooh, girl, it's giving that you laid on that table. But it came natural to you. So it's like, so bbls do look good. You see what I'm saying?
Lex P
I think when people be talking about bbls in a way that they don't look good, we all know which ones they be talking about, because, I mean.
Draya
Cause there are the ones.
Lex P
Let's be real here.
Draya
Who you think about?
Lex P
I'm thinking about a lot of people, actually. It's a lot of people on my brain right now.
Draya
What's up, y'?
Lex P
All? It's your girl Lex P. And it's your girl Dre in Nicole, and you
Draya
are tuned in to another episode of
Lex P
Poor Mind, where a drunk mind speaks sober thoughts.
Draya
We ain't got no guests today. We ain't got no guests today. So first off, let me say this. I know there's a lot of new listeners here.
Lex P
Mm.
Draya
Welcome, new poor crew members. I hope y' all enjoy. You know, we have established a very large and strong family here. If this is your first time tuning in, I feel like it's like, welcome.
Lex P
Hey, y'.
Draya
All. The girls have been everywhere. The girls have literally been everywhere. I feel like we just got off a great run. We did Savannah James and Apryl's podcast. That was so much fun.
Lex P
Yeah, we did Cam's podcast. Yes, we did. Why didn't you make that?
Draya
Because we got, you know, we have to talk about it. We do everything that's been going viral and all that stuff. Yeah, it's been crazy.
Lex P
You think so?
Draya
I think. I mean, our episode, not to boast or brag, but I'd just be so proud of it.
Lex P
Go ahead, brag a little bit.
Draya
Well, I just feel, like, really proud of us, because y' all have to realize me. Me and Dre are in a space where Charlamagne talked about this on Earn youn Leisure, and he was basically saying a lot of celebrities have ruined podcasting. And I don't wanna say they have or they have not, but it's very rare you find a celebrity podcast that's good. Okay.
Lex P
Or consistent.
Draya
Or consistent. Now, let me say that, and I'll give Amy Poehler her things, because she does have a very pleasant and enjoyable podcast. She really does. She earned, I think, what was it, an Oscar that she got? She earned it. Very much so. But she's an anomaly in that audience. So I wanna say the fact that me and you are essentially non celebrities. We didn't have a background in none of this. We just two Texas girls, and we went on Cam Newton's podcast, and it did over 500,000 views in, like, five days. Yeah, you know.
Lex P
You know, it's key when you see them two people.
Draya
Biggest touchy. I'm just saying. So I'd just be so proud of us, because to be this far, this deep in the game, I feel like we're still hitting mil. We're still kind of like, I know y' all probably gonna be like, oh, whatever, but black women. And this is gonna go into the first topic. We are still behind in a lot of things. And Even though it's 2026, and everybody's forward thinking. It's still a lot of rooms that black women. We're not being talked about and we're not in. So I feel like me and Draya have done a good job with the support of y' all to be able to open these doors and show people our value as a black consumer and as black entertainers. So I'm really just proud of us.
Lex P
Yeah, no, I am too. Like, the numbers were crazy. But to be honest, though, I think that we're at a point and we're in a space that now whenever we go on people's podcasts, the numbers are always pretty high, especially, you know, like, in comparison to a lot of the other episodes that they have. But with Cam's podcast, that's a little different because, I mean, he be having, like, really big celebrities.
Draya
I mean, it's Cam Newton.
Lex P
Yeah, he has, like, really big. I'm used to seeing you with other podcasts. I guess what I'm trying to say is because we have a large fan base, and then a lot of the other podcasts. Podcast that we went on, they don't typically either have guests like that, or if they do, it's never really, like, really big guests. So it makes sense that our episodes always do really, really good numbers on a lot of other shows. But like I said, with his show, it's like a list celebrities and stuff that he's interviewing all the time. And so for us, as like you said, just two regular girls with a podcast from Texas to do those kind of numbers in five days. That's crazy.
Draya
Yeah. Yeah, that's what I said.
Lex P
I really imagine what he's gonna be at, like, at the moment.
Draya
I think it'll hit a million.
Lex P
I think so, too. I think so, too. And it's just. It's insane, like, just thinking where we came from and, like, how big the show has gotten and how many people just, you know, love watching us.
Draya
I mean, I was telling you this the other day. Like, I said, I watched the podcast at earn your leisure when Charlamagne went on there, and he was like, you know, the top podcasts are getting 5,6 million views a year. And, you know, he's naming these numbers, and I'm like, looking at our numbers, I'm like, damn. Cause we've surpassed that.
Lex P
Yeah, we get like, 14. We got like 14 million last year,
Draya
and we got 14 million views on YouTube alone. That's not audio.
Lex P
I'm not including audio.
Draya
I'm not saying. And I'm really not saying this to Brag. Like I said, I'm just so proud of us. Because pop your shit. I mean, because people don't realize it
Lex P
works hard to get here.
Draya
Well, podcasting is like the music industry now. So it's like, sometimes you'll see an artist, they drop banger after banger, they hot for like two years, and then you never hear about them again. So the fact that we've been doing this for this long and we're still rising and still going every day, still people like, I have never seen these girls, and I love them down. Like, we're still being introduced to people. So I just really love that for us. I was like, look at us.
Lex P
Yeah. And I think too, just the episode as a whole was very controversial, too. A lot of the topics that we discussed, a lot of things that were said. It was a lot of controversy.
Draya
A lot of people were saying that I. I crossed a boundary and somebody needs to put me in my place. Oops.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
I said, ugh. I didn't think I crossed. I thought. I thought it was funny. Now I will say I am surprised at the reaction of people. Cause they were like, oh, Lexi was on his ass. But I think I act like that with everybody. Well, you don't think so?
Lex P
I feel like this is how I feel about that episode. I feel like normally he be on that. Like, he be on that rock Funky Friday. Yeah, he really be, like, on that type of time. But for whatever reason, with us, he really wasn't on it. Like, he was kind of chilling. Like, I like he not to say he ain't want no smoke, but I just don't feel like he was on that. And so also the way that they were clipping it and stuff, I think that it maybe kind of looked that way, but I don't.
Draya
Being there, that wasn't the energy at all.
Lex P
Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I think what it is, though, is that people are probably saying it just because you were speaking on his relationship. Cause in hindsight, he did ask. But in hindsight, we don't really know him or know his girl or know what really goes on in their relationship. To be seen super opinionated about what we see on the Internet, you know, so maybe that's why people were thinking you were overstepping just because of, like, the commentary on his relationship. But you not with me. They thought I was siding with that nigga. And I was like, when the. Was I siding with him?
Draya
Oh, yeah, they were. See, I was the over. I was overstepping the boundaries and you were the pick me for the day.
Lex P
Which is crazy as fuck they were.
Draya
They were saying that.
Lex P
But which is so crazy. Cause when do it ever give Pick me. And I didn't hear that from you either. Never in my life have gave a fuck about n approval on anything. And I feel like my point that I was making on the podcast was that, why would you want to marry somebody if they don't want to marry you? It does not matter. You were saying, oh, well, you should have. You should put that same emphasis on having children. Like, if you don't want to marry somebody, why have children with them? And that's a valid point. But I also hate when people say that just for the simple fact that, like, you can't pop the kids back in. The kids are already here. So we talking about the situation at hand with the children being here. And if A is showing he don't wanna get married, why are we having a conversation about forcing him to marry somebody? Cause they have children with the person. But I guess it seemed to people like, I'm siding with him on, oh, he didn't need to marry her. He don't need to marry somebody if he don't want to.
Draya
Right. So I think the way it got misconstrued was because. Kind of like the way it was clipped because it seemed like. Cause we were. Both of our points were 100% valid. But my point was more towards Cam, and your point was more towards, like, generally speaking, you know what I'm saying? Like, it does apply to him. But we weren't. You weren't. You were just talking about. In general, about women and how they act and men and how they act. And I'm not gonna lie, I was specifically talking about Cam and how I felt like, okay, you're on your third baby mama. If you didn't want to get married, then you should have made that kind of clear before you got her pregnant. In my. And I'm just clearing up what I meant. I'm not talking shit about him. Lord, please don't start so that. So I think that's where it got misconstrued, because I think they. Every time they posted a clip, they. Cause everybody says we took over the episode.
Lex P
I mean, but people say that every time we go on people's shows, though.
Draya
So I think what it was was a lot of the times they didn't realize that we were talking in general sometimes. And sometimes we were talking about him, and sometimes we weren't. So I think in that moment, they were like, oh, dre is agreeing with Cam. She's. And I'm like, that's not what she was doing at all. She was just speaking, which she was true. Like, everything she said was 100% right. And again, I think a lot of times, you know, them hit dogs be hollering.
Lex P
I think that's what it is. I think hit dogs be hollering. And like I always say all the time, it's the messenger. Like, sometimes people will miss the message because of the messenger. If it wasn't me saying it and it was something. Yes, for sure. I feel like people like to take a lot of offense to the things that I say for whatever reason.
Draya
I know.
Lex P
Yeah. I mean, we've been friends for years. We've been having this podcast for years. Like, I absolutely just think it's amazing, like, a thing of, like, people thinking that I think I'm better or, like, I'm just. I don't know how to explain it, but it's like, they just take offense easily to the things that I say. Whereas I feel like if someone else was saying the same shit, you wouldn't be offended, but it's because it's me. You want to argue or you want to very much make it a thing? Or like, oh, she said this. And we just gonna go against what she said just because she said it. Even though what I said was accurate,
Draya
I said what I said.
Lex P
And then I think it don't help either that I'm like, that you would know.
Draya
And then you gonna double down.
Lex P
I'm gonna double down, ass bitch. Cause.
Draya
Cause what?
Lex P
Cause again, and me and you were. It's so funny because me and you were talking about this when we did the episode with Deontay. I just. I'm a person who I don't just say just to say.
Draya
Yeah.
Lex P
If I say something, I'm saying it with conviction. And I'm saying it because it's something that I've thought about and I know exactly what the I'm saying now. How you interpret it is how you interpret it. And if you like what I'm saying, that's a whole nother thing.
Draya
Right.
Lex P
But I know exactly what the I'm saying. So I'm always gonna double down on what I say because I mean that. And you don't have to agree.
Draya
Yeah. You know, I just think, for the most part, it was a fun, lighthearted episode. And the think pieces.
Lex P
It was a lot.
Draya
It was a lot. But I will say.
Lex P
And you will be playing a lot of the time, too. I think people Be failing to take into account, like, your delivery might be aggressive sometimes, but you be playing.
Draya
I am very. I was first falling. You were playing. I did Dry January. That was my first day back drinking and I had Tito's. I went in hard. I didn't even have a little champagne.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
But I'm just. I don't want to feel like. And like, I don't care what people say. I'm not apologizing for anything I did because I.
Lex P
Cause you didn't do nothing wrong.
Draya
I didn't do nothing wrong.
Lex P
It was very bold.
Draya
And he asked. I had a good time, but I don't want people to be like, oh, I was like bullying somebody. Or I'm trying to be all this and that. I act like that on Poor Minds, but I get. A lot of people were watching the show who have never. That was their introduction to me. But. And let me honestly say, it was more positive feedback than negative, though. It was a lot of positive. Like, people were like, oh my God, they're so funny. I mean, honestly, I think the only people who didn't find it funny was incels. Yeah. And n that wanna be Cam Newton. Like, n that just, you know, like.
Lex P
It was a lot of women too. At least on my end.
Draya
Well, see, I saw more. On my end. It was more men commenting negative stuff towards me, really. But, I mean, I think that's how it always was.
Lex P
But for me, it was like more women because they were like saying that I was siding with him and that he didn't need to marry. Men don't need to marry women if they have children with them.
Draya
They have kids, huh? The women that were saying it did. They have.
Lex P
But that's what I. I'm sure. I'm sure. Or they just want to hear damn ring.
Draya
Oh, not hear damn ring.
Lex P
Cause that's another topic for another time. Some people do just be wanting to hear damn ring. They want to get married and get engaged just.
Draya
But no shade married or engaged. I don't think you should ever accept a here damn ring. But sometimes you niggas need to just be like, go the fuck getting fucking married. You have terrorized society enough. You don't need to be out in the streets. Go get married.
Lex P
No, stay away if that's the case, be single. You don't need to be nobody husband. If you a terrorist.
Draya
Well, that's what I'm saying. It's time to reel it in and calm down. Get them balls off the street.
Lex P
If you terrorize one woman for life,
Draya
well, you're not gonna terrorize her. You need to be a good, honest man.
Lex P
Niggas don't change like that. We know that if he's a terrorist, he's gonna remain a terrorist. Now he's just gonna be a married one.
Draya
Married are a trip and married.
Lex P
And we've seen it because we've seen be married and still be out in the streets. That's what I'm saying. Marriage don't change somebody.
Draya
Yeah.
Lex P
That's why I think people should only get get married when they're ready. Because marriage is not going to change you overnight just because now you got a ring on your finger.
Draya
Yeah.
Lex P
And you got a piece of paper that says you legally this woman's husband. You know?
Draya
But I just feel like relationships should not be this hard. And they've been hard since the beginning of time. But you know what else I noticed? I noticed a lot of people commenting like, oh, my God, are y' all not tired of talking about the same shit? Then I would go to their page, See, they had a podcast. Oh, go to their podcast. I'm on my phone all day, baby. I got nothing but time. I have scheduled my life to where 90% of the day, I'm on the couch watching TV. Okay. I got time to scroll. And every time it was somebody being like, y' all don't have nothing else to talk about the black community, we're cooked. And da, da, da. I go to your page, you have a podcast. Literally talking about the same hot topics. The thing is, and this is another talking point that I hate, people say everything is overdone, Everything is done too much. First of all, if we're all talking about the same thing, but guess what? Some people's opinions are a little more interesting than the other ones. So just because you're talking about divorce, you're talking about divorce. You're talking about. I wanna hear yours. Because I know you think a little bit differently. Are you gonna say something that makes me think?
Lex P
Are you gonna keep it real and raw? Yes.
Draya
2. Relationships is something that we're always gonna talk about because this is something continuous. You know what I'm saying? Like, we're not gonna have conversations about the big back booty TVs no more. Cause nobody gets those. No. Why would I talk about a big back booty tv? And we don't buy them no more. It's out of style. You feel me? Mm. I'm not. Relationships are something that are always evolving.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
New things are being introduced, new ways to communicate, new ways to date, new rule New this and new that. So, yes, relationships are always gonna be the center point, because that is one of the center points of life. When you think about it. It's what is your life? What is the meaning of your life, right? Your friendships, your family, your relationship, the way you take care of yourself, your health. And that's what a lifestyle podcast is. This is a lifestyle podcast, and we're talking about life. So if you don't want to hear about relationship stuff, there is a whole category called political science on podcasting, literally.
Lex P
Current events.
Draya
There's a whole category. Current events. There's so many different categories. Movies, movies.
Lex P
Crime, True crime.
Draya
But you keep finding your dirty, musty, crusty ass and poor mom's comments. Why?
Lex P
And always talk about how much you don't like it.
Draya
But you hear.
Lex P
But you hear every week, tuned in. One thing, what we always say. Numbers don't lie. So many people don't be liking.
Draya
I'll take the hate watch, but 14
Lex P
million last year says otherwise.
Draya
You know what I'm saying? And that's why I always love giving so much love to, like, the poor crew who really be down for us. Cause I know y' all be like, oh, y' all always talk about the neg, but y' all don't understand how hard it is. Because when you give something your blood, sweat and tears. And I think anybody can relate to this. Hairstylist, lash artist, you know, bartender, anybody. If you put your passion into something, like, Todd, imagine you worked on, like, a drink and you like, I curated the fuck out of this. And then somebody just goes like, they barely take a little sip of it.
Lex P
Oh, I don't like it.
Draya
Oh, my God, bitch, you barely let it sit on your throat. Try it again.
Lex P
Or just not even wanna try it. Yeah.
Draya
Oh, I don't.
Lex P
They're just like, oh, I don't.
Draya
You know what I'm saying? Imagine you cook a meal all day and somebody just smell it and be like, oh, I don't like it. I know I don't like it. Yeah, so it's like, yeah, I mean, I love the poor crew and the people that love. And I talk to y' all often. I'm always in the comments, responding. But sometimes you got to let people know. Shut. Shut up, girl.
Lex P
You do gotta let people know. You do. Sometimes you just gotta let it be known they got you fucked up. So speaking of relationships, Ty, you wanted a little cabin trip? Oh, I sure did.
Draya
Sure did.
Lex P
How was Valentine's Day? Cabin black. Now.
Draya
How was that?
Lex P
It was. He did a really good job. He had surprises all Saturday I woke up. I don't know. Well I do know how he did but he like snuck balloons and flowers in the car on our drive up there. He like covered it up. It was really cute. And then all Saturday I woke up to breakfast and I really didn't post a lot about it cause I just
Draya
wanted you was in the moment.
Lex P
Yeah, that's why I was asking. That's like I want to know what happened. It was full of sex. I love it.
Draya
Since we're talking about lifestyle. Lifestyle, not a lifestyle. Used Valentine.
Lex P
The cabin that we stayed in was really nice too. Like it was new and modern.
Draya
Okay.
Lex P
It had three different levels. Like it was super nice.
Draya
Was it around Atlanta?
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Lex P
It's in Blue Ridge so it was like a two hour drive. Like we damn near were in Tennessee.
Draya
For real. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Lex P
And the weather was perfect. Like I would go back there in the winter where it's snowing and like you can just be snowed in up there. Was so cozy, but it was some Confederate flags flying.
Draya
Was it?
Lex P
Sure was. But he had the blicky on him
Draya
so you got to keep that blicky
Lex P
in case it gets in every room. Got to be ready. Yeah, but that sounds Fun. I can't. I want to go on a little vacation cabin trip. Yeah. Maybe I'll do that next year.
Draya
Yes.
Lex P
I highly reckon. And I'm not a nature girl. Okay. Like, I was nervous because I don't like bugs. I don't either. I don't.
Draya
But I think that's like glamping, right?
Lex P
Yes. You know, kind of what it was for us, too. A little bit more glamping. Had a hot tub, little game room, so it was cool. We got to spread out.
Draya
I feel. I know you was spread out.
Lex P
Yeah. I feel like I could do more of a cabin. Not so much a tent. Hell, no.
Draya
No, no, no.
Lex P
I can't do it.
Draya
I'm not doing it.
Lex P
But I could do the glamping. Yeah. Have you ever been to Coachella, either one of you? No. So, like, people will do glamping in the tents there. I can't do it. I'm the same way. Like, I need a house or something.
Draya
The way I be seeing them lines for the shower.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
At Coachella.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
Burning man just seems so. No offense to anybody. It just seems very dirty to me.
Lex P
All the sand.
Draya
Yes. And they be having, like, to get certain soap to wash because of that dirt, like, sticks to them or something. It's just too many rules.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
I can't do that. I don't like that.
Lex P
Agree.
Draya
Let me ask a question. I seen this the other day. This has nothing to do with anything that we just talked about. It just popped up on my mind. Now, y' all know when in the Internet nowadays, and we've talked about surgery and bbls before, Right. I think the most common thing that people say about bbls is, oh, my God. Ew. BBLS look crazy. You look so. Oh, my God, they look so fake.
Lex P
Horrible.
Draya
Oh. Everybody has the same type of body, and everybody talks so bad about bbls. But you know what I've noticed? When they see a girl with a nice body and they know she doesn't have a bbl, they'll use that to compliment her. Oh, girl, it look like you got a bbl. It's giving bbl. So what's the truth, ho ass niggas? What is the truth? If y' all are saying, oh, it's giving bbl, but then you saying bbl. Why? What is it? What is that truth?
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
I think that is so weird, because if a girl openly says, oh, I have a bbl, you're like, ugh, stank, nasty whore. Then another girl will have a cause. There's some girls who literally look like they have a BBL and they don't. Yeah, they'll be like, ooh, girl, it's giving that you laid on that table. But it came natural to you. So it's like. So bbls do look good. You see what I'm saying?
Lex P
I think when people be talking about bbls in a way that they don't look good, we all know which ones they be talking about. Because I mean.
Draya
Cause there are the ones.
Lex P
Let's be real here.
Draya
Who you thinking about?
Lex P
I'm thinking about a lot of people actually. It's a lot of people on my brain right now and they don't be looking good. Like, the butt be huge, the legs be real small. And you know they about to say we body shaming. It be clumpy. Certain areas. Yes. It be clumpy and lumpy and it just don't look right. The thing is, I feel like if you're a slim girl and you go get a BBL or you go get ass shots or whatever the case may be, I hope girls are still not getting ass shots in 2026 just because I'm dangerous.
Draya
Well, and also there's so many upgrades. And yes, yeah, you can. If you don't have any fat, they have fillers that you can get that are 100% medical grade and safe.
Lex P
That's what I'm saying. So I hope girls are not still getting the illegal ass shots. But if you're gonna go get something to enhance your buttocks, you need to hit that gym. You need to hit that gym or
Draya
you need to eat. You are too strict. Leg you deeper than me. Am I too waist training?
Lex P
Do be getting used.
Draya
You do. And mind you, I'm not saying don't. Cause yes, working out gives you the body that you want. I always do this to myself. Cause every time I get back in the gym, I'm like, damn, I should have did this the first fucking time. But sometimes them glutes, it is really genetics and they can only grow so much now. And some people want that. But donka, donk, donk.
Lex P
What are you talking about? I'm not saying that you shouldn't go get a bbl. I'm not saying that you shouldn't get like filler or whatever. I'm saying if that's what you gonna do and you slim, you need to hit the gym or you need to eat. You need to gain some weight. Because when the legs be real small and then that booty be humongous,
Draya
it
Lex P
don't be looking right. And I think that's what people be having in mind when they think of the BBLs that don't look good. It's when the legs don't match.
Draya
But I will say it's more people that have a BBL than a lot of people think, because sometimes you can't like it be. Sometimes I see, like, some makeup girlies on TikTok and they'll be like, oh, let me tell y' all about my surgery. They'll be like, you got surgery? Like, what's her name that came on the show? Glamazonte. She's been very open about, like, the surgery that she got, and she said that she's going to get another round. And people were in the comments like, tay, you got surgery. Tay, you got surgery. Cause her surgery looked so good. But I think that's why I just feel like I get it. There are bbls that look bad, but there's more bbls that look good than bad to me. Because you cannot tell. You can't tell.
Lex P
And I feel like you shouldn't be able to tell.
Draya
That's what surgery is supposed to be, though. You not supposed to tell. You be like, you look refreshed, you know?
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
What's t. You look like you just slept for three days.
Lex P
Sleeping ain't got nothing to do with your waist being most nervous.
Draya
Well, you know, sometimes if you sleep for three days, that means you didn't eat. Okay. You feel me?
Lex P
But I mean, yeah, I get what you saying, but
Draya
it is some. It's warranty.
Lex P
Some of the comments be warranty.
Draya
It is some wonky ones out there, but I think there's more good ones than wonky ones. I think the wonky ones are put on blast because they're IG models or OnlyFans girls or whatever the case may be. And I'm not shading them, but a lot of your everyday average girls went and got a BBL just because they want their clothes to fit better. They want to. You know, it's a lot of women who have everyday jobs that aren't on Instagram that have a bbl.
Lex P
No. Yeah, some of them look good, but. I don't know. I feel you. But I be feeling like for the most part, I can always tell when somebody got a bbl.
Draya
You can.
Lex P
I could spot it from a mile away. My BBL radar be on point. I always know it's a certain. It's a certain way. The buttsy.
Draya
Like, it's that lats.
Lex P
It's when you get lats, I can always it don't have nothing to do with lats. Cause it's girls who have gotten like lipo and a fat transfer to they hips. And then you're gonna have legs. You get what I'm saying? Like, I'm talking about the actual butt.
Draya
Oh, you're talking about the actual booty.
Lex P
Yes. I can always tell a BBL butt versus a natural butt. It just looks different. Like real booties hang different hang a little. Like, I feel like my booty hang. My friend, my best friend Lynn, her booty hang. Like real booties just. They sit different. And then I have. I've had other friends who have had bbls and I feel like they booties just. It sit like a bbl.
Draya
My booty sit like a bbl.
Lex P
Oh, I wasn't thinking about you. I was about to think about somebody else.
Draya
I'm asking.
Lex P
I feel like your body match though. Like you got the butt matched, the leg. Like your butt is big. I'm not gonna lie. But it better be. Ah, I pay for it. Your butt, your butt is big. But I don't think it's something that people would ever just question if it's fake or not. Or not fake. Cause it's not fake. But you know what I mean. I don't think.
Draya
I mean, it's fake. Technically.
Lex P
I mean, but not really because it's fake.
Draya
Yeah, I mean, but it's not that
Lex P
I have a foreign substance.
Draya
It's not that I have a foreign substance, but things were accepted, you know, that's fair.
Lex P
But I do. I feel like nobody would like, look at your body and question probably if you had a BBL because your thighs match. Like your body is proportioned. And then you don't have like, I think even your upper half of your body, like your waist and. And stuff. It's not where it looks so dramatic.
Draya
Like it's like. Now I will say like when the waist be like 20 inches and it be like 50, like that. That do be a lot. That do be a lot. But like I said, I just think like. And that's gonna get us into our first topic of like the commentary. Like, commentary is just different nowadays. I just think it's a little, you know, if you gonna say a bbl, just keep it to yourself. Yeah. Cause y' all be using it to shade girls. But then y' all wanna use it to compliment girls. Because deep down inside that means, you know, like, you don't seen a BBL or two that look good. They look good. Some of them look really, really good. Okay. I don't want to toot my own horn. My BBL looks good.
Lex P
That's what I'm saying. I mean some bbls look good and then some of them just be looking like. I don't know why the you did that.
Draya
Yeah, you should have left it originally. You should have left it alone. You should have left it alone.
Lex P
The original version was fitter. Can I ask, why do people go back for a second round? Like, is it because the first one didn't go right and they're trying to fix it or do they want more? It could be a mixture of both. I think it just depend on the woman.
Draya
I went back for a second round. I got two BBLs.
Lex P
Okay.
Draya
So when I went to my second round, my waist was still very small and my butt was a good size, but I wanted more hips. Gotcha. And I wanted a little more on the top of my butt. Cause I felt like I had a heart shaped booty, which it was like my first bbl. It looked good, it was very natural and I didn't mind that, but I just wanted a little bit more filled out, you know what I'm saying? Cause I, before I got my surgery, I had no hips really. I was curvy. I just didn't. I was just. But from the front I was really up and down. I didn't have an hourglass at all. And for me, that's why I always wanted one. I just feel like for me personally, I'm not saying if you don't have an hourglass shape, you're not feminine. I'm not saying that. But for me, I just like the way an hourglass shape looked. I liked the way it looked in clothes. I just like. So it's like that's what I wanted. So when I went for the second round, the first round it was more so like I want a butt. Got you. And I want my waist to be gone. So my second round was more so let's sculpt a little more. Give me some hips. Give me a little. When I turn to the side, you wanna see that? That's why I pose to the side. Bl. You know what I'm saying? So I think with the. Cause people gotta understand though, when you go get a bbl, they can only do so much. So I always tell people, when you go get a bbl, and I'm not suggesting anybody go get one, but you have to be within 5 pounds of your goal weight. It's not no weight loss shit. So if you a little. And you need to lose a little. Lose it. Got you. Cause you're just gonna be big with a small waist and a fat butt. It's not gonna look right. So I think people go in with unrealistic options. Like there was no way I was gonna my first round. I'm not gonna go to sleep and wake up looking like Draya. Like, that's not gonna happen. And honestly, I could get 16 DBOS round. I'm never gonna look. My bone shock bodies are a small waistline, so it doesn't matter how many times you get lipo, My waist is never gonna be 24 inches, however big her waist is. So I think once you get realistic goals for yourself, that's when people start botching themselves.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
Because you have unrealistic goals and you're like, oh, I want this waist. I am never gonna have that waist. But I'm okay with that because my waist line is fire waistline. Cause my waist is 30 inches. Everybody thinks you have to have a 20 something inch waist for it to look good. No, I have a 30 inch waist, but it fits my body and it looks good on me. So once you stop chasing. I never wanted to look like this girl or this girl. I wanted to look like the best version of me. So I think that's why I'm not botched. Because I knew when to stop.
Lex P
Exactly. Because I feel like that's where people are missing the plot. Like they keep going and going and going and it's too.
Draya
What more do you want?
Lex P
You know, people definitely don't know when to stop. Plus, surgery hurt. So there's that. That's why I don't be wanting to get surgery no more. Lipo hurts.
Draya
It hurts bad. It hurt, but he give you a
Lex P
perk it do it. Definitely. It's worth it. But it hurt. Like I went through that shit twice and I'm just like, I'm good. I'll never get lipo again.
Draya
Yeah.
Lex P
That's why I just be in the gym. I can't do either.
Draya
And you got Abby now. You didn't have Abby with lipos. Yeah.
Lex P
And that's another thing. I didn't want to get that. Cause I know people be getting that too.
Draya
And I feel like that ab now ab etching. I will never stand by. I think ab etching looks too fake. That's a Drake hat. Ooh.
Lex P
That's what a lot of people have.
Draya
That's what a lot of people have. If you see a girl all of a sudden, but it be like this, they have them lines on the side, but it's not really in the middle. It be them lines on the side. I do not like. And I'm a circle. I love all types of surgery. And I'm gonna talk about a poor decision I'm gonna talk about a poor decision that has to do with surgery. But I will say ab etching is a no for me. Okay, AB etching is a no, but shout out to Ty. Look, we deep in the episode. This is an hour and a half. I'm sorry. Hour and a half. Give me an hour and a half, y'. All.
Lex P
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Draya
Then we add a little triple sec. Cause y' all know that matters. It brightens everything up. Fresh lemon, a little grapefruit just for that, you know, sharp taste, Honestly. And strawberry puree for the soft delivery. Chad.
Lex P
See, and that's the thing. It's sweet at first, but then the citrus hits you. Just like when somebody says, no offense,
Draya
but it's still offense you.
Lex P
This drink is layered. Rich from the port, bright from the triple sec, and citrus. And smooth from that strawberry. It's giving. I said what I said.
Draya
And we garnish with a strawberry. Because even when the truth comes out how it looks, it still matters.
Lex P
This is the truth serum.
Draya
Sip slow and keep it real. Taylor Port. Shout out to Taylor Port. Y' all know they sponsor us. We love some Taylor port.
Lex P
And now it's time to get into our port decision.
Draya
And that's on, period. Since we're talking about surgery and things like that. We love a good surgery every now and then.
Lex P
We do.
Draya
My poor decision was a while back. I had gotten under eye filler, and I did not. It was just a waste of money. It was a waste of money. I feel like I was trying to, like, get some more fat under there. I wanted to be a more full.
Lex P
More volume.
Draya
But it kind of, like, left a little, like, bump. Like, it had migrated in one spot. And I had this bump for a very long time. And over time, my body metabolized it. But it took years. Cause I got that, like, I want to say, like, three years ago. Wow. And, yeah, I don't think under eye filler is worth it. I don't think maybe there's something else that has came out since then. I don't really do my research on it because I feel like with me eating healthier. And I realized I had low iron. And that had a lot to do with the dark spots under my eyes and my blood work. A lot of times y' all be thinking, y' all need some fillers and shit. Bitch, go to the doctor. You're sick. You got diabetes, ho, you're dying.
Ryan Seacrest
Okay?
Draya
Y' all be thinking, I need this and these. No, bitch, you're dying. But. So, yeah, that's my poor decision that I did a long time ago that I would never. I think under eye filler is a waste of money. I think it's stupid. If there's anything like, maybe I'll try sculpture. Because, you know, sculpture is something you do. Underdog. But it grows the fat naturally and wherever they inject it at.
Lex P
Or maybe prp.
Draya
Maybe prp.
Lex P
But they say PRP don't really last that long, though. That's the only thing about that. I think you have to get it done. Like every few months, I'mma just eat
Draya
my whole foods and drink my water. Because now my under eyes, I take my iron and my vitamin D. I think that is the main thing with under eyes specifically. Did you.
Lex P
Why didn't you just go get it dissolved? The bump?
Draya
Cause it was at the time you
Lex P
couldn't get it dissolved.
Draya
I couldn't, but I didn't want to. Because when you got your shit dissolved, I said, oh, fuck, no.
Lex P
I actually just got my lips dissolved recently. Really?
Draya
Again?
Lex P
Yeah, I got it done twice recently.
Draya
Yeah.
Lex P
And I still feel like it's not all gone yet, but I do feel like my lips are slightly smaller than they were.
Draya
They look good.
Lex P
Yeah. Thank you.
Draya
I mean, your lips have always looked good.
Lex P
I've always had full lips.
Draya
I don't know.
Lex P
I think for me, you know, you say your filler be going away. Like you've had to get your lips refilled over the past few years. Because it goes away.
Draya
Well, the first time it did, right? The first time I got my lips done and they went away. Now when Helen started doing my lips, they stayed. Last time I went to Helen, I was like, can I get some more?
Lex P
And she was like, no.
Draya
She told me no.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
She said, bitch. All right, yeah, bring it on back. So I am the type of person it. I won't botch my body, but I will probably low key botch my face.
Lex P
Cause you just adding stuff.
Draya
I will. Cuz can I get that? She was like, girl.
Lex P
And see, that was with. So she. So shout out to Helen, cuz, where
Draya
is she at now?
Lex P
What's it called Al Cove Aesthetics.
Draya
Yeah.
Lex P
Go to Al Med spot Now it's called Al Cove Aesthetics. It's off of Roswell Road. Make sure y' all go see my girl. Yes, she do my Botox, all of that. So I just felt like I haven't got lip filler since 20. It's been a long time. Yeah. But it wasn't going away. Like, I just felt like my lips was looking real puffy. And because it been years, I feel like it was starting to, like, migrate. And they were looking puffy to me, not like, yeah, pouty. How I wanted them to be and how they were when I first got my lips done. So I just ended up going to her to get Botox and I was like, I think I want to dissolve my lips. And she was like, okay. And I was like, okay.
Draya
Yeah.
Lex P
So we did.
Draya
Yeah.
Lex P
So, yeah. So she dissolved it.
Draya
But it.
Lex P
I get it, though. Dissolving hurts. It stings so bad.
Draya
Yeah.
Lex P
Cuz they're taking all. They're draining the filler out. So they inject you with hyaluronic acid. Yeah. And so she has to kind of cut. I forgot what she said she cuts it with, but she cuts it with something so that it doesn't sting. Oh. L. But so she cuts it with that so that it doesn't sting as bad and that it numbs it a little bit. But, like, yeah, I'mma just wait.
Draya
Help it go away.
Lex P
I definitely wouldn't want to do that by my eye. And then you have to. To massage it out. Like, you have to massage it over days.
Draya
And I'm cheap. I'll wait till my body metabolizes it. Don't go away one day, bitch. It went away, though.
Lex P
That's true. I was just scared that it was never gonna go back down to how I wanted it to be, so.
Draya
And everybody's body reacts different to fillers and things like that. I do think my body, for some reason, in certain places, metabolizes it. But like I said, Helen does a really good job with my face. I feel like when people see older. Yeah, when people see older pictures of me, you know, that's a search on TikTok, Lex P before. And now it'd be so many searches of me. I'd be like, this is crazy. Cause why are y' all searching?
Lex P
They love you, Lex.
Draya
Girl, all in my business, they always search. You don't even have to search that. Go look at an old episode of Poor Minds. Everything is still up. All I do is I just. I think like I just look like myself, but the check's cleared. Yeah man, you know what I'm saying? The wigs are a little bit better, lips a little better, bit fuller, eyebrows are arched, nails are done, not press on, you know.
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Draya
I mean, I. I can. I can pay for a little one too. Now. Y' all be so happy when everybody else upgrade. Why y' all looking at me hoping it, you know.
Ryan Seacrest
Yeah.
Draya
What's your poor decision?
Lex P
My poor decision is. Oh, man. Okay, so I went out to dinner for Valentine's Day, and I don't know if I just was in such a great mood or what.
Draya
You ate that ass, girl.
Lex P
No.
Draya
Oh, sorry, sorry.
Lex P
I ain't never in that great of a mood.
Draya
My bad, my bad.
Lex P
No, no, nothing sexual. I'm actually not even having sex right now.
Draya
Good.
Lex P
So, yes, I know. And 75. Poor me. Yes, I know. But yeah, so he getting hot.
Draya
Let me get another little more of that Taylor part.
Lex P
Yes. So I had a great day. Like, I mean, me and my best friend, we were talking and we were just having like a really great conversation. Then I got like, you know, a few little nice gifts. I got some more Chanel bags. I got a new Lapt Things that I just been wanting lately. I was gifted for Valentine's Day. And I don't know if I was just in such a great mood because me and the person that bought me the stuff is in such a good space. But I was like, oh, I'mma take this CBD THC drink before I go to dinner, y'.
Draya
All.
Lex P
And it was like a new one. Cuz I do dabble in, like, CBD cannabis drinks. I do. I dabble in the little dreams. I'm a smoker, but I will have a little dream drink. So I was like, okay, let me try this. Because I had ordered a new one. So I took a shot of it out of the bottle.
Draya
It's a bottle.
Lex P
It's a bottle?
Draya
Yeah.
Lex P
Like how we had up here in the past. It's like a whole bottle. It looks like a liquor bottle, but it's like a CBD THC elixir. So I don't know why I had the bright idea to take a shot of it right before he came to pick me up for the date, y', all. When I got in the car, by the time I got in the car, and then our dinner reservation was all the way in Alpharetta.
Draya
So y' all drove or y' all took a car?
Lex P
He drove.
Draya
Okay.
Lex P
Cuz we both not drinking right now. Not drinking liquor, so. So, yeah, like, it's like a 30 minute drive from my house to get to Alpharetta. By the time we got to this restaurant, y', all, I was so hot. I immediately regretted my decision. Like, I was like, oh, my God. Like, I was just so paranoid. I was so paranoid. Like, I thought the waiter could tell I was high. I was just looking around like, oh, my God, do I look weird? Like, I was just so in my thoughts and in my head to the point that I feel like I couldn't even really enjoy.
Draya
Did you enjoy yourself?
Lex P
I couldn't really enjoy it because I was high. I was just thinking about the fact that I was high the whole time. And then it was so funny because men. It just made me laugh because men are just so not aware the way us as women are. Because I feel like if the shoe was on the other foot, especially since we know each other really well. This is my ex. Like, I know him. So I feel like if he was high, I would know. I would be like, oh, I could tell this high. Or I would have been like, you good. You smoke something? You high? He kept talking about, why you so quiet? And I was like, I don't know. I didn't want to tell him that I was high, cuz I knew he was going to tell me I made
Draya
it stupid to see.
Lex P
So I didn't want to tell him that I took the tv, the THC shot. So he was like, why you so quiet? You not being like yourself. And I was like, I don't know. I'm just chilling, you know, enjoying myself. He's talking about, yeah, I did my big one today.
Draya
Oh, so he thought that's why you.
Lex P
He was like, yeah. He was like, I did my big today. He was like, you don't know what to do. He was like, you don't know what to do. He was like, I ain't never seen seen you this quiet before. He was like, you ain't even got nothing to say. This ain't the Dre and Nicole I know.
Draya
I am weak as fuck.
Lex P
And he just thought I was just being quiet, y'.
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All.
Lex P
Cause I was in awe of the whole day and everything that he did.
Draya
That's right. I said, yeah, baby. Y' all know I love her. Yeah, Daddy. But then after the fact.
Lex P
But, Lex. Then after the fact, I ended up telling him, like. I told him, like, the next day. And he was like, oh, He did do good. But he was like, that's why you were so quiet because you was high. I was like, man, that shot took me down through there.
Draya
That is funny as. I'm sorry. It is.
Lex P
Yeah, it was, girl. I was like, yeah, never again. So I was gonna bring. And I bought it because I was gonna bring it up here. Cause, you know, I haven't been drinking, so sometimes I'll do the little.
Ryan Seacrest
Yeah, yeah.
Lex P
But I was like, I don't think I'm gonna drink that on camera. Cause I need to figure out my dosage with that shit.
Draya
You be tired of, like, mixing with something.
Lex P
I can help you. Cause I know how to measure it out. But, y', all, I was high as fuck. I didn't even really enjoy today.
Draya
Give me, Dix. A lick. Give me that lick. Give me that dick, and I'm done. Cause that's what. Look, my Valentine's is real simple. We went out to eat. I got drunk as fuck. We passed out before I could get that turkey. But we woke up the next morning and got two.
Lex P
Did you say before you could get that turkey?
Draya
That turkey.
Lex P
Okay.
Draya
That's what we call it. He woke up, he said, you want some of that turkey? But, baby, I said, cook it up, Daddy.
Lex P
I'm weak as fuck.
Draya
Me.
Lex P
Yes, y'.
Draya
All.
Lex P
I Would never do that shit again. Not before we gotta go. Not before I have to go somewhere. You know what I mean? Like, nah, I' ma play around with that at home when I don't gotta do nothing.
Draya
But, yes, I said he did do good. The bags was cute, girl.
Lex P
Thank you.
Draya
I love that. And, you know, I'm a shoe girl, so, you know, we added to my shoes.
Lex P
Yes, I saw that.
Draya
I got my Dolce. I got my new doll. Little. I got my silver one. So, you know, I'm glad we all had a good Valentine Day.
Lex P
We deserve was good.
Draya
Now, y' all ready to get to the first topic?
Lex P
So we only going to do one topic. We need to make a decision, though. So we either going to do topic number one, or we going to do topic number two. Which one you want to do? I think two would be funnier.
Draya
Okay. Yeah, let's do two.
Lex P
Yeah, two would be.
Draya
Let's do two. And we're still going to do the bed and everything else, but we can see. Skip to two.
Ryan Seacrest
Yeah.
Lex P
I mean, I feel like lowkey. Those were topics, like, we talked about a lot. Bbls. We talk. We talked about bbls. We talked about Cam Newton's episode.
Draya
We addressed a lot.
Lex P
We addressed. We talked about Valentine's Day. We've talked about a lot. So, okay, so for the first flash. Second topic, we going to talk about celeb. Deb. What is a celebrity debt that hit you really hard?
Draya
Okay, so there was two of them that are obvious, right? So I'm gonna tell y' all a story that is. Y' all know I got a story for everything. Chad. When I was a young warthog, When
Lex P
I was a young warthog, I remember
Draya
being in my room. And so me and my sister had Jack and Jill rooms, right? So it was her room, my room, and it was connected by the bathroom. So one night, I was crying so hard. I was just in my room. I was in my bed just crying. My sister's like, anytime anything went on in my room, she would just come run and check on me. Cause my sister, like, I had a great mother, but my sister was literally like my second mom. So anytime something was going wrong with me, she was like, let me handle it before I have to bring it to mom. You know, I'm crying so hard, and my sister runs in my room, and she's like, seeing me crying, she's like, oh, my God, T, what's wrong? Like, what's going on? I was like, I just realized I'm never gonna meet Whitney Houston. Oh. Cause I didn't understand how celebrity worked. I'm like, seven.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
And I was crying so hard. I was like, oh, you can't meet celebrities, bitch.
Lex P
You wasn't seven when Whitney Houston died.
Draya
No, I'm talking about. I was. This is when I was, like, upset. My obsession. Like, I was. I'm like, no, I wasn't. No, bitch. I was grown as fuck. Crying. And that's even worse. Cause I was grown when that girl, that lady died. Listen, y'. All. So I was. Yeah, so I'm bawling, crying. And my sister was like, uh. Bitch, my sister has been fed up with me. My sister has been with her since birth. So that's when I realized, like, what? Seeing someone on TV and being a big fan of them and having an unusual relationship. Whitney Houston was my first, like, obsession. Like, I still. To this day, I still think she's everything. Like, anything Whitney said, it was law. It doesn't matter. Whitney could never be wrong.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
So honestly, when Whitney Houston passed, I felt like a part of me died. And you know what? I'm not even gonna be funny even now, doing this. It still hurts my feelings. I'm like, I know Whitney would have came on Poor Minds and stuff like that. Hurts my feelings.
Lex P
You better late, Lo.
Draya
Yes. So it's like. Yes. Like, sometimes celebrity deaths. Like, I think about Whitney often, you know, because I feel like with my personality, you know, she was so poised and polished, and she's Whitney and she's this. But she was always herself.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
So she was, like, one of the examples that I saw of women just truly being themselves and unapologetically them. Right. And I really love that. I felt like I knew her. So when she passed, I was devastated.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
It really hit home. Mm. When Michael Jackson died, I had to call my co worker, and she was like, no, she was Mexican. Sorry.
Lex P
How did she say no?
Draya
You're lying.
Lex P
That's a little racist.
Draya
It's not. That's how she said it. And that's my girl to this day. Shout out to Esther. That's my man. We worked at TGI Friday, and I was at home, and it went across the clicker. I swear, I'm not being racist. That's what happened, y'.
Ryan Seacrest
All.
Lex P
No, it's crazy.
Draya
I was like, yes. Yes, Esther.
Lex P
Yeah. I remember when Michael Jackson died.
Draya
Yeah.
Lex P
That was, for me, probably the celebrity that they hit the hardest, too, because I was just like, wow. Oh, my God. This is so crazy.
Draya
Yeah.
Lex P
I'm never gonna get to see him in concert.
Draya
That's. And that's the thing.
Lex P
That's why it really hit me. Michael Jackson was just so great. And I hate the fact that I never got the opportunity to be able to see him in concert and see him perform live. And I. And he was so young too. So I think it just shocked all of us. Cuz he was only, what, like in his 50s? Yeah, like his early 50s. And I'm like, damn, Michael Jackson. No, he ain't had no business now. No business.
Draya
Bernie. Ma, that hurt. That shit was like, what? What? We didn't know he was sick with Bernie. We didn't know he was sick.
Lex P
We didn't.
Draya
Aaliyah was shocking, too.
Lex P
I always used to say, like, if I was, like, alive in the 70s,
Draya
80s, I used to have them ass cheeks out.
Lex P
I would have fucked with Prince.
Draya
Really?
Lex P
We both would have had our ass cheeks out. That ain't no problem, girl.
Draya
Okay.
Lex P
Thong for thong.
Draya
People select that. Now. That was a funny clip. Heel for heel. Oh, he loved a nasty.
Lex P
He loved the nasty platform. Oh, I would have been all up in that closet.
Draya
I will say this. Prince's death, it was more like it took me back. But I wasn't surprised.
Lex P
Why?
Draya
Just at, like, the stories that had been coming out, like, months prior of things that were going on in his life. So I wasn't surprised.
Lex P
Surprised.
Draya
Now that's like Kobe Bryant.
Lex P
That was.
Draya
Let me tell y' all something. That is the only time we didn't even do an episode of Poor Minds. We recorded a 10, 15 minute episode because the world stopped, literally. And we said, we don't even feel right laughing, joking, and having a good time. Cause ain't shit funny right now.
Lex P
Yeah, like you could.
Draya
That episode is still up.
Lex P
It was a Kobe tribute. Yeah, it's still up.
Draya
Yes.
Lex P
But, yeah, that was rough. That was really hard. I would say that's another one that just really hit me hard. That was during COVID Yep, yep.
Draya
Yeah.
Lex P
And it was because it was him and his daughter.
Draya
Like, what? Yeah.
Lex P
And it was just such a freak accident. Like, what the fuck? But that was rough. But then Nipsey, too.
Draya
Oh, I now I cried.
Lex P
Nixi was a hard.
Draya
Yes. I feel like every time something happens, you always call me. Cause you had called me when young Dolph, you called. No. Yeah.
Lex P
Well, we were in the car, but we were asleep.
Draya
I was sleeping in the car. And Dre was like, oh, my God. She was like, lex, Dolph died. I was like, bro, this is not funny. We were on the way to our first Live show ever. It was November 17th.
Lex P
No, not. Was it in Nashville. Yeah, it was in Nashville.
Draya
November 17th. Yes. And I don't. I just said that off the top. Y' all can verify. I know. I remember that. Cause I was like, you're lying. And that night, we did our karaoke. We did our karaoke for Young Dolph.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
That was crazy. You called me when Takeoff died.
Lex P
Oh, yeah.
Draya
You called me early in the morning. I was. What, bro? What? You was like, I woke up too, girl. I said, oh, my God. Cause it feels like sometimes when you listen, people don't realize how of, like, music is a frequency. So when you're listening to this and you're jamming or it don't even matter what you're doing if it's turn up music. I can connect moments where I was listening to Takeoff or listening to Nipsey or listening to Michael Jackson. It's like, you relate moments to these people.
Lex P
No. Yeah. And then with Takeoff, too, for me, that was, like, really crazy because, you know, I moved to Atlanta during, like, the Migos era of when they really started taking off right after Culture had just. Culture had came out right after I moved here, and so they used to.
Draya
You moved right after Fight Night. Hit him with Atlanta. You moved after Fight Night?
Lex P
Well, it was after. But Fight Night had came out, like, a few years before.
Draya
Okay, okay, okay.
Lex P
But Culture had came out in 20, I think, or maybe 2017. But, like, when I first moved here, their careers were kind of just starting to take off. And, you know, they still used to be in the clubs and outside all the time. So when I used to work at Medusa, they used to be in Medusa every Sunday.
Draya
Yes.
Lex P
And, you know, I was kind of cool with they role manager and stuff. So it's like, what happened?
Draya
I hate you. I didn't do anything.
Lex P
You did.
Draya
You did.
Lex P
And I know you, so that's why I'm laughing, happy.
Draya
But anyway, I didn't do nothing.
Lex P
So we used to be outside, and them n was always in the club. And so when he died, it was just like, wow, that was shocking. So crazy. And he was so nice and so cool in person.
Draya
He was young.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
It was such, like. I don't know.
Lex P
And it was all over a misunder. Misunderstanding or an accident.
Draya
They didn't even mention either way. But I will. I do remember being so frustrated and furious, like. Cause I hated the fact that people were sharing that video of, like, Quavo.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
Like, why y' all crying over the body Inhumane. Like, it is insane to me. And this is coming from somebody like, you know, with me doing, like, I didn't do love LEXP then, but now people be asking me to report on certain things. No, I'm sorry. Maybe I will never be a Wendy Williams, because I'm a human, and I have feelings, and I understand that these people are humans, too. If it ain't lighthearted and funny, I'm not talking about it. Like, where do we draw the line? Cause, like, these people have families. Cause, you know, it was a whole big deal, even with Whitney Houston. Cause Kanye had used the hotel room that she was allegedly doing. Whatever. And he used that as an album cover. Mm. What are we doing here? Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, these are still, you know, human beings.
Lex P
Why do you think that the celebrity dicks hit us so hard, though? Do you think it is, like, partially parasocial relationships?
Draya
I think. But I think our millennials parasocial relationships are different than Gen Z's. Right. I think. And this is no shade. I love my Gen zers. I know we have a lot of young listeners, but I think, like, y' all are connected to influencers and things like that. Cause we share our business. We talk about things. Y' all feel like. I'm gonna use Mikayla Naguera as an example. Y' all know I love to talk about Kayla. Mikayla, she announced that she's gotten divorced. What? Yes. Girl, I didn't see that. Oh, it's been. See, you got to scroll, baby. She's in the divorce, but I follow
Lex P
her, so I'm shocked that I didn't see. I follow her on TikTok, so.
Draya
But this is a controversy right now. Cause, you know Kody has had a drug addiction. Yes. Well, it's alcohol and drugs, allegedly, for a while. So Mikayla was like, I have something to tell y'. All. Sit down. She's like, I'm getting a divorce. Take it in. So everybody was like, take it in. Who cares? You motherfuckers care. Y' all been in this lady's comments for the past year. Where's Cody? What are you and Cody doing? Why don't you ever bring Cody? Why don't you ever bring this? And now everybody's, like, making fun of her because the way she announced it, influencer culture is different because y' all want to know every single little thing. If Draya says, I got some Chanel bags for Valentine's Day, well, who got it, Draya?
Lex P
Who got it, Drea? Nicole. Boyfriend, Chanel bag in the search bar.
Draya
So it's like, so when people let you in their life and then they make an announcement like, hey, y', all, this is what's going on. And y' all are making fun of her for. First of all, let's keep it real. I mean, he's a crackhead. He's a drug addict. He is. Since when are we taking up for somebody who has put his wife through hell because of his addiction? Now, addiction is a disease. He needs to go heal. She tried that. Why does she have to stop her life? Yeah, but we're attacking her, y'.
Ryan Seacrest
All.
Draya
Let me tell. And this is. And I hate when y' all make me take up for. But y' all feel like whatever reason y' all be calling this lady unattractive, she got on the Internet and said, I know y' all think I'm ugly. Y' all done did all this to this lady. But.
Lex P
But she not.
Draya
But the thing is, Draya, they feel like, I look better than you. I do makeup better than you. My body's better than you. They feel, why you and not me?
Lex P
But, you know, like I always say, it's not for you to understand. Like, some people just have that it factor.
Draya
Thank you.
Lex P
And some people just don't. And I really feel like that's the thing about her. As much as love to talk about how she talk and her voice and all of these things, those are the things that make her unique. And I really feel like, yes, she's amazing at doing makeup, but I really feel like it's the voice and the voiceovers that really made her content start blowing up. And she just has, like, a great personality, in my opinion, because let's keep it honest.
Draya
If you have something that works, you lean into it. Yeah, I'm be honest right now. Y' all think I eat beans every goddamn day, right?
Lex P
Yes. But they believe it. I've been cut on camera. Cut on Mike. Got it.
Draya
Cause I low key had some yesterday. I did have some beads for breakfast. But no, I will say, though. But of course I lean into it because it's funny, it's cute, and whatever. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, of course she's gonna lean into the accent because people think it's funny when you go viral, whether good or bad, as we all know, it brings more eyes your way. It does. So I. I just think at the end of the day, y' all are forgetting that this woman is a human. The way y' all are ripping her apart this is why I hate when people say, oh, black people. We only do it to ourselves. These white women are ripping her apart. And every time I see them like, oh, you're a hater. You're a hater. Y' all be haters and it's not one race.
Lex P
Yeah, people are so mean because it's like she already going through a divorce, which I'm sure is very difficult to do.
Draya
Exactly.
Lex P
You gotta get on the Internet and then this is your job too. So it's not like you could really stop posting because you probably have brand deals.
Draya
They mad at her cuz she posted get ready with me for Valentine's Day.
Lex P
So now why are they mad?
Draya
Because she's posting a video. But you're supposed to be going through a divorce. She got mortgage, dude, that lady just bought a brand new multi million dollar home. Okay?
Lex P
And I'm also not trying to be funny. Like do you have to be going out for Valentine's Day with a man? How do they know Go with one of her home girls.
Draya
That lady probably did her makeup and went and washed it off and went to bed.
Lex P
Yeah, but I mean even if she did, like, even if she didn't, Valentine's Day don't always gotta be you being with a man.
Draya
Valentine's Day's about love. Who do you love?
Lex P
Right? Like, people are just so weird. They're mean though, stuck online and I
Draya
really don't like the bullying of Mikaela
Lex P
and I like Mikayla. Me, I don't like.
Draya
Y' all know I don't take. But baby, I don't play about Mikayla. I'm not gonna lie. I love her down because I feel like, like she like what's meant for you is for you. And why are y' all mad at that? It's so nasty and so rude. So going back to the point that you were asking, I think the parasocial relationships now is they feel entitled to a lot of these people's business and then when they give it to them, it's still not good enough. Yeah, because she could have went on there crying.
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Draya
With no makeup on it said, I'm getting divorced. Ew. Put some makeup on. She could have went on there and just said, hey, y', all, I'm getting divorced. Well, now you sound like you don't even give a damn. Yeah, since when y' all care about. Oh, now all of a sudden y' all care about crackheads?
Lex P
Okay, yeah, it's weird. The parasocial relationships get weird. But I also just think some people just really have that type of impact. Like some celebrities really just have those type of impacts on people life to where you feel like you know this person or maybe you watch them grow up. Like, I feel like we have a handful of celebrities left that are gonna make like a huge impact when they pass. But we know for one it's gonna be Beyonce for sure.
Draya
I don't even wanna think about that. Let's move on. I don't wanna even think about it. Let's move on.
Lex P
No, we definitely gotta move on. But. But I'm just saying, like, I'm gonna cry right now. Cause we just feel like we know.
Draya
Oh my God, that's gonna make me cry thinking about that. Yeah, I just feel like my world is gonna stop.
Lex P
Yeah, same. I mean. Cause it's like we really like watched her grow up.
Draya
Yeah.
Lex P
In front of our eyes. To become an icon on the level that she's an icon, it's just insane. Justin Timberlake, Will Smith, he brought sexy back. Will Smith.
Draya
I'm losing, bro. Justin Timberlake single handedly brought sexy back. Nobody was sexy. Yes. Nobody was sexy no more. You ain't wrong. Madonna. I'm gonna feel it with Madonna. Because if they're. Let me tell you why, though. Madonna, that was a little before my song. No, no, no. But let me tell you why, though.
Lex P
And yours.
Draya
No, it wasn't. Madonna had that song with Justin Timberlake. If you want it, you're gone and you got it. But you remember that song.
Lex P
I do.
Draya
Time is Waiting. But this is.
Lex P
But I guess I'm thinking of Pink. Madonna.
Draya
Okay, but listen. Madonna was the first artist that showed y'. All. If you want to stay relevant, you have to reinvent yourself. Artists were literally making music, making money and peeking, and they would disappear. Madonna was the first artist for me, not maybe in general. That went from the 80s to the 90s to the 2000s. Who did that?
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
Who did it? She did it. She went from the 80s to the 90s to the 2000s because she was reinventing herself. Artists weren't doing that. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, they usually. They would have a 80s run, and then they're touring in the 90s off of their 80s hits. They would have a 90s run. They're touring in the 2000s off of their 90s hit. Madonna was like, fuck that. What Aretha Franklin did arose. Oh, she did try to make a comeback, but she not big girl. She did make a comeback, though. That was a good ass. I'm telling y'. All. I ain't even gonna hold you around.
Lex P
Aretha did her big.
Draya
Who do that? The Isley Brothers.
Lex P
Oh, yes.
Draya
They are reinventing them. They started in the, what, 60s? No.
Lex P
Yeah, they started in the 60s and Ronald Isley changed his name to Mr. B.
Draya
Stop. He don't know how hard.
Lex P
He came up with a whole new alias. He was not playing with these n then. He was also on the Steve Harvey Show.
Draya
Come on now.
Lex P
What was the name of they band?
Draya
The Hot Top. Yeah. What was that song?
Lex P
When the funk hit the fan, all the people wanted, damn, come on, get with me. That's what I'm. Get with me.
Draya
You slow down over there.
Lex P
That was a good song.
Draya
But I say all that to say it's very hard to reinvent yourself. So I feel like the things that Madonna has done for the industry, people tend to forget and they like to take credentials away from people. I don't like how they was treating Brandi with the national anthem because Stop playing with the vocal Bible is Brandi is one of the only souls on the. That Whitney Houston listened to her voice and said she's touched. You know what I'm saying? Like, y' all can never play with Brandi. Everybody that came out in her era, and there's no shade to anybody that came out in her era. Whitney touched her.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
Nobody else. Stop it. These young folks get a little disrespectful. So all parasocial relationships are 100% different.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
Because I'm not gonna lie, Nowadays, people get online, they'll eat chicken wings and chew them good enough, and they have a fan base. If you. If you have a ASMR video and you're. And you lick your fingers good enough, you have a fan base. And that's no shade to crazy because
Lex P
I hate hearing people eat.
Draya
It's no shakes.
Lex P
Nobody. It's actually gross.
Draya
The people that I'm.
Lex P
You like you Ty.
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Lex P
Yeah. I don't like this.
Draya
It's weird. But people like when I eat. Really?
Lex P
I've been told I should have a channel.
Draya
I might watch it. I don't. You know, I like. I like the ASMR when they're, like, walking on stuff. Like when they walk on the crunchy leaves or they walk on, like, certain kind of dirt. I like those.
Lex P
I don't so much mind, like, regular ASMR if you eating, like, if you just eating regular, normal, cool. It's when they be doing a lot. Like when they be dipping the crab legs a ton of butter. The butter be dripping down they cheek, down they titties, down they titties.
Draya
That's how they only fans. You was on a different app.
Lex P
No, it be on TikTok. Like, some people just be doing too much. They be smacking. They sucking all they fingers. That's the part that I just can't deal with. You doing too much, man.
Draya
I wish I could find this guy. He is a good asmr because he be cooking his own food.
Lex P
Y' all remember Be Lovely. Miss Be Lovely.
Draya
They be.
Lex P
I was about to say Miss Be Nasty. Two different.
Draya
Two different lanes. Completely different. Dang. I wish I could find him. Oh, I can't find him. I searched his name. I mean, searched. But he be cooking his own food. And he does a good asmr because it's not like nasty falling everywhere. He just really be eating. But I can't find his name. But anyways.
Lex P
Well, all I know is that niggas is dying. They have never died before. Jesse Jackson just passed. That one hurt me. That one hurt. Cause I grew up, like, I used to give oratorical speeches at Operation Push and it was like, competitions. He was over it. So I met him multiple times. Like, that was just like a childhood connection. But I think, like, a lot of our parasocials like. Like you said, we grew up with these people. Take off. Hit me hard, because I remember, like, you in Atlanta, in these streets, in these clubs, and they were there, they were outside. We were meeting. We were partying with them. So, like, when that happened, it was like, damn. That's like one of the. That's literally like a cousin. You know what it is.
Draya
That's how. That's why I said music hits a door different frequency. That's why music is so powerful. And there. Music changes you. So when you have been listening to these artists I'm talking about, there was no such thing as a. A album filler. You had to make hit after hit after hit after hit. So it's like we. We grew up listening to these mixtapes, these albums, and we felt like these albums will get us through hard times.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
Usher. God, we was. You know what I'm saying? So I just. I do feel like we thought we
Lex P
was ready to sign them papers too.
Draya
And they were serious. It was.
Lex P
I'm serious.
Draya
I was moving mountains, bitch. I was moving motherfucking mountains.
Lex P
Climaxing, going on.
Draya
I'm not ready.
Lex P
It was a good song, but. Oh, I'm sorry.
Draya
No, no, I'm saying that's what. I just feel like our parasocial is different. Cause there's like we're connected to that talent. Exactly. That feeling. Y' all be connected to a little bit of like chicken wings and little simple stuff. But I give Mikayla her props because she had. I think people are connected to her.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
Because she gives herself. Not everybody does that. Jackie Asmoa. I wanna say her last name right. I think she used to give more of herself, but she had to step back because her mental health and her boundaries. But that's another person she showed. That's talent. To be interesting is a talent. So, yeah, it's some people that would feel like, oh, my God. So, yeah, I think it's a little different.
Lex P
I'm excited for the Michael Jackson movie, though. I've been trying to go back and forth about if I'm gonna dress up or not, but I feel like it's gonna make me cry. I do think I'm gonna cry about that.
Draya
Well, I don't. This is it. This is. It was sad.
Lex P
It was.
Draya
Because it was like. It was not supposed to be it, bitch. It was supposed to be your life.
Lex P
You supposed to keep going.
Draya
You was supposed to keep going. So this is it made me sad because he was. If y' all watch this is it and you watch a Beyonce Documentary. You see the parallel? I have to say it. Sorry. Okay.
Lex P
I'm gonna do that.
Draya
But the production. The way he walks in is like this. This the way Beyonce walks in. And they're soft spoken.
Lex P
Mm.
Draya
But you gotta do that shit. Motherfucking right. This is. It was like. Oh, my God. You. It was not. Let me not say it was Virgos, too, though. They sure are. Yes. And it was his time, because God has the final say, so. But it was like I was not ready.
Lex P
Yeah. Yeah. I think the movie is definitely gonna have everybody in there balling. Especially when it gets to, like. I mean, the obvious part.
Draya
And I do think that doctor deserved to go to jail. Cause that you.
Lex P
And you remember Nikki said. Didn't she say that on a song? Why the fuck would she say that on that song? She said, like, mjd, doctor, they killing me. Propofol. You know, Propofol.
Draya
Bitch who told me that that was
Lex P
okay to say,
Draya
you know, I'm already mad at you right now.
Lex P
Do you ever be thinking about stuff? Sometimes I be like, no. Why the fuck would they say that? Who cleared this shit?
Draya
Nobody. Vicki don't give a damn who cleared this verse. But you know what I will say, too, Even when Nikki goes. I'm gonna be sad. Yeah. Even though she's kind of whatever's going on. We cannot deny the things that she's done. You know, we can.
Lex P
We can deny it.
Draya
No, we can't deny it now.
Lex P
We can forget.
Draya
We can forget these past three, four, five, six years. Whatever.
Lex P
I have no shame in saying. Like, do I agree with a lot of the things that I have been seeing on the Internet? Absolutely not. Am I still gonna listen to Beam Me Up Scottie while I'm working out? Absolutely.
Draya
That's fine.
Lex P
Not gonna lie.
Draya
That's okay. That's okay. I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that. Because at the end of the day,
Lex P
if a Nicki song come on your playlist,
Draya
if a Nicki song comes on my playlist, I'm gonna let it ride. Because at the end of the day, it's like, I try to. I don't respect the decision that she made because I feel like that's not really a decision that she made for. I think she did it for other reasons that were selfish. Yeah.
Lex P
Right. Right.
Draya
So I'm not gonna. I try not to judge, but I feel like. I mean. But it's nothing that I'm ever gonna be like, oh, y', all. Nicki new album came out, and that shit Hard.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
I'm never gonna. And it's just unfortunate because I just remember seeing her on stage. She was in that black lace outfit, body sitting tee. Body right. Jet black bust down. And she's like, yeah, fuck Melania. Y' all know, if you wanna. If you are, shout out to the real women, shout out to Michelle Obama. You know what I'm saying? Like, it was like a moment. Like, if you, a real woman, shout out to the women that take care of they selves. And she was really. Yeah, it was a beautiful black women moment. And I feel like it's so important for us because, yes, we want families, we want husbands, but to have. Have people in that position speak and really care about us as women of color. And I mean that women of color, not just black women, we always getting left behind, man.
Lex P
Yeah. It's like the actions that she been taking lately, it just completely erases all of that. Like, it don't matter that you did that.
Draya
All of her lgbtq. Like, that has to hurt. That has to hurt. I mean. Cause it hurt me.
Lex P
I mean, yeah, I think it hurt all of us. Like, because when Nikki got popping, that was like, our era. That's when we was young and outside. Like, I was in college, trying to
Draya
boot me up yellow.
Lex P
I got up with that little bob
Draya
man wig with the bang. Yeah. You could tell me that's good. I had a picture of myself with a bang, and I had pink and yellow eyeshadow, and I was like, I'm eating.
Lex P
I was on the plane with the bang.
Draya
You know what I'm saying? So I think it's hurtful, but I was having a conversation with my homegirl. She was like. But look, she was like, if Donald Trump. Somebody from Donald Trump's camp, DMed you right now and said, I got 100 million for you right now. I said, you know what? Honest to God, no. No, I couldn't sleep with myself.
Lex P
Cause it's bigger than that. It's bigger than the money. It's bigger than the check. Sometimes I'm a person who I truly believe, like. Like, you have to stand for something.
Draya
Something.
Lex P
You always have to have something that you stand for. If you don't stand for nothing, you will fall for anything. And I get that money can be tempting, but, like, what about your morals? What about your community? Especially us as black women and black people in general. What about your community? What about what it's doing to our community?
Draya
Our community? That's what I care about. Yeah.
Lex P
And I'm not about to be no Sellout to my community for $100 million when I could figure out another way to.
Draya
Cause it's gonna be there. Cause it's gonna be there. Somebody got it, you got it to give it to me. Somebody got it. I care so much.
Lex P
It might take a little longer, but I'd rather get it that way, man.
Draya
Growing up in a different. The environment I think that any of us grew up in, you going to a mixed school, me going to an all white school. And you just see how even us being in the industry right now, you see how hard it is
Lex P
still.
Draya
We got too much.
Lex P
It's a lot of racism. It's a lot of classism.
Draya
We still got doors to knock down.
Lex P
Colorism still.
Draya
People think, shit, sweet. Go turn on Love island right now. It's still one black guy, one black girl, and they expect them to hook up. Still. Go see how many they've had. One black bachelorette, one.
Lex P
I mean, even, you know, love is blind.
Draya
This season in Ohio, they got. They had two black men on, well, three, and there's no shade to him. One of them married a white woman. That's cool. Whatever. One of them really wasn't a pick. He was playing two of the girls, so none of them ended up getting married. And then one. He's a mixed guy. He don't even know he black. He keeps saying, oh, I didn't know I picked a mixed girl. I usually like white women. You're black, but this is the kind of people y' all pick that make white people feel comfortable. It's all about, are white people going to digest this?
Lex P
I mean, even on TV shows, it's usually just always one black person. Every black people. Like Stranger Things. You know, I was watching Stranger Things recently. Literally, it was Lucas and his little sister. That's the only.
Draya
They didn't even show their parents.
Lex P
Yeah, everybody we saw on one episode, but they didn't have like a man.
Draya
Everybody else, parents. Yeah.
Lex P
Had main roles, but yes, it was Lucas and his little sister. It's just so many different.
Draya
The Office.
Lex P
The Office is one of my all time favorites.
Draya
Stanley.
Lex P
Stanley. That's it. I mean, and they would have guests sometimes. Like, I remember Idris Elvin was on there one time. But like, for the most part though, it was just Stanley 1D representing and then.
Draya
But also he was kind of a stereotype.
Lex P
You've been watching Frasier. I think it was a. I think it was one black person on a lady Frasier.
Draya
I have been watching Frasier and sometimes I'll fall asleep on It. Because it's my comfort show. I haven't seen one black person on there yet.
Lex P
Don't quote me, but I feel like. Was it that it ends up being one on.
Draya
Was it a black girl?
Lex P
I think so.
Draya
That comedian lady. It starts with an A, but I can't remember.
Lex P
Cause it's been so. My mom and my dad used to love that show, so I used to watch it all the time. But it's been so long since I've seen it. But I do feel like eventually I ain't seen it.
Draya
I ain't seen it.
Lex P
But yes.
Draya
What's her name in real life? Kim Coles. Kim Coles was on there. Okay. I was thinking of somebody else. That's not who I was thinking about, but okay, Kim, Shout out to Kim Coles. Before we move on to the next topic, though, though. What? You know, can we have some more on the show?
Lex P
I love some more. I think that would be cool. She just dropped. She's hilarious.
Draya
She just dropped a Netflix special. I haven't watched it. Oh, okay. But when we talk about. Cuz, you know, the conversation since me and we talked about the cam episode, they be like, oh, I didn't know
Lex P
bad was funny some more. Been holding her down for. For a long time. For real.
Draya
And I'm sorry. It's a certain criteria to be a bad. Yeah, that's a bad bitch. Yeah.
Lex P
When we talk about beautiful lady bad bitch. And she aging, like, fine wise, really. Oh, my God.
Draya
But y'.
Ryan Seacrest
All.
Lex P
Did y' all know that her and Nia Long are sisters?
Draya
Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know. I think that's like a thing you said.
Ryan Seacrest
You didn't.
Draya
Oh, I did know that. They, like, half. It's like a random, like, fun fact.
Lex P
Kind of like Brad and Lisa Ray.
Draya
Like, people know it, but they forget. So they be like, oh, yeah. But yeah, some more. You gotta come on the show so we can talk about your Netflix special. I haven't watched it yet.
Lex P
So we can talk about it some more.
Draya
Come on. I know that, right?
Lex P
Okay, so now it's time to get into the bed bow. The bed A bow. The bed Bow.
Draya
Bow, bow, bow. We are cutting up so bad today.
Lex P
Okay, so for the bed topic, we're gonna talk about, is it better to have sex before the date or after the date? But before we get into that, you know, we got a shout out. And y' all know this segment is sponsored by salt.xo. y' all know how Lex and I feel about this coochie wash. We talk about it every episode. It's so good. It's gonna have your coochie feeling like you ate a peppermint down there. It's gonna keep you fresh, it's gonna keep your PH balance and it's all natural ingredients so you ain't got to worry about it irritating you down there. You ain't got to worry about messing you up. And then she also has a ton of other products as well, like the Slippery Elm.
Draya
Yeah. Oh I was about to drop, almost
Lex P
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Draya
Yeah.
Lex P
But yes, Lex and I love the Slippery Elm pills. They're called the Sweet Release. If you're on the website, 10 out of 10.
Draya
Yes.
Lex P
Can't rave about them enough.
Draya
Yes. It helps with your like lining and your in your gut so everything kind of slides out easier. But it does make that coochie way. I'm not gonna lie to y'.
Ryan Seacrest
All.
Draya
It makes the coochie really with this I wish my man review cuz he
Lex P
might we going to have to do you know how you can get on Tik tok and people can speak and then they have like the little filters that change your voice?
Draya
Maybe we can do that.
Lex P
Maybe we can get him to do
Draya
no cuz they going to no hey
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Lex P
You feel like they gonna figure out how to reverse it.
Draya
They gonna know his voice. They gonna know.
Lex P
No, I'm talking about the filters. Where.
Draya
Oh, it changed your voice.
Lex P
It changes your voice. That's what I was saying.
Draya
Oh.
Lex P
Cause we not gonna post a video of his face.
Draya
Okay, okay.
Lex P
But a video of him talking to the voice.
Draya
Okay. And just like the product. Yeah, okay, we can do that.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
Let me get that. Let me call daddy.
Lex P
Okay, so, yes, y'.
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Lex P
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Draya
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Lex P
And then also, let's just say that it smells. Smells amazing as well. Like, the oil smells. The rejuve oil smells so good. You don't even need to put perfume on. Like, especially if you just about to go run some errands. Yeah, you could just put the rejuve oil on. And the scent lasts for a long time, too.
Draya
And honestly, putting on my bikini line, I don't have ingrowns anymore. Like, every time I go to my waxer, shout out to Tink. Tink is actually about to open her own waxing center. But if you go to European Wax center on the east side. What's that road called?
Lex P
I can't remember. I know which is over by where I live.
Draya
Moreland. Go to European Wax center off of Moreland. Go see Tink. She's there on Sundays. The best wax that you'll ever have in your life. But Tink was like, oh, girl, you getting it together. I said, I'll be using my rejuv oil, period.
Lex P
It's that rejuve oil. So shout out to Salt.
Draya
Xo. Yes.
Lex P
So the best. Do you think it's better to have a date? I mean, to have sex before your date or after the date?
Draya
So I'm not gonna lie. Like, Me and my. Like, we go out a lot. Like, we have a good time and we like to turn up. We be getting too drunk to have sex after every. Like, me and my man gets fucked up. I'm in the club fucked up. I got my people with me. Like, we love to cut up. And I'm not gonna lie. Like, for Valentine's Day. Like, we didn't get to go out actually on Valentine's Day. Cause he had to work or whatever. But we went out afterwards, and I was like, ooh, I'm getting ready to go. I can't wait to take. I'm finna suck that dick. I'm finna put this leg behind my head. My mouth so wet when I got home. Not. Yeah, not every. I'm not gonna lie to you. 95% of the time. Not 95, 99% of the time. When me and my man go out, we have sex in the morning, the next day.
Lex P
Yeah, same.
Draya
I think that's maybe something we need to. Before.
Lex P
Yeah, before.
Draya
Cause I like to eat. I'm not. No.
Lex P
Oh, perhaps a salad.
Draya
Perhaps not. I'm gonna eat. I'm going to drink. And I'm not talking like, I'm the type of girl. Can I tell y' all a little secret that I do? I like to try cocktails when I go out to eat, but they're never strong enough. So I order my cocktail and whatever liquor's in there, give me another shot. So I pour it in there. Yeah, that's all litter here. That tracks, I guess. It li. Exactly. I do the same shit. So, yeah, I think that let's start having sex before the day and just so we can make sure we get it in. Cause I need that turkey. Yeah, I like a little turkey, you know, in the evening time. So I think we need to be realistic of who we are. Maybe the girls in their 20s, y' all can handle it.
Lex P
Yeah, I'm an after date sexer. I like to have sex after. Cause I just feel like, before, what if you mess my makeup? I done got all cute and shit.
Draya
I didn't think about that.
Lex P
You trying to have a little quickie. What if you missed my makeup or mess my hair up? Why have braids right now? But you know what I mean? Like, I don't know. I just like it after. Especially after we done got a little tipsy. Maybe we feeling ourselves and we done had a good day. Yeah, I think y' all should just stop getting so drunk.
Draya
I can't it be too fun not
Lex P
talking about me and Whitney out there, right? Cause I'm like, maybe they should go back home and then have, like, a night cap. Like, have a few drinks at the dinner table.
Draya
See, that's our problem.
Lex P
And then go back home afterwards and like, finish the night and maybe have, like, another. And maybe have some shots.
Draya
That's our problem. We be taking shots at the restaurant.
Lex P
He knows.
Draya
I'm like, as soon as we get back to the sanctuary, baby, he be like, bring that over, daddy. Bring that over to daddy.
Lex P
Yeah, I feel like y' all should do cocktails at dinner.
Draya
He don't drink cocktails, though. But do.
Lex P
I mean, but he a man, so I'm sure he might like a little old fashioned, something with a club soda slash.
Draya
Club soda?
Lex P
Yeah, old fashioned.
Draya
He likes tequila straight up with a Cuba ice and an orange. That's it. He don't like nothing.
Lex P
Yeah, I think y'.
Draya
All.
Lex P
Yeah, just try to, like, try to gauge the night.
Draya
I can't gauge it. You can't? Because I'll be like, oh, I'm finna get so drunk so I can get nasty as.
Lex P
But see, and that's. And that's where it gets tricky with getting drunk. Because if you get so drunk, then it don't even be good.
Draya
See, I'mma pace myself right now. You slump. But see, see, that's the thing, though. I be sloppy, but he be sloppy too. We be sloppy together.
Lex P
But see, to you, it don't be like when. I feel like when we both be sloppy, it don't be that good to me. Like, I like to be. No, I will say I like to be aware and like, in the moment. In prison, like, yeah, a little tipsy, a little inebriated, but still, like, scrappy.
Draya
In my 30s is different, though. Okay, when is the last time you've seen slop to the top, to the floor, don't drop.
Lex P
I also feel like you don't get as drunk around me, though, as you get with your men, Cuz I also don't.
Draya
We.
Lex P
I feel like we don't get that drunk together as we used to.
Draya
Yes, we do. I don't think so. For your birthday.
Lex P
That was almost three years ago. Well, that was two years ago.
Draya
Two years ago. Yeah, but that's the mom that was
Lex P
the drunkest we've been in a very long time.
Draya
Um, no Travel Queens night. I was slithered.
Lex P
That was a year ago.
Draya
I don't get slithered, though. I don't. I don't. I do. It's very Rare. Like, I went Valentine's Day. I got really, really, really drunk. Cause it was Valentine's Day. Yeah. But I don't get drunk that much. When I do get drunk, I get drunk. See, my best friend Lauren, I can't. I don't drink around her too. Cause I know she gets. Now she gets to cutting up.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
But I'll get drunk with you. I'll get drunk with Killa. I'll get drunk, and I'll get drunk with my man. I'm gonna say this name. See, that's how I talk to guys.
Lex P
But it is like a safety. When you're with your man, you can kinda just relax a little bit, you know, they got you. Yeah, I get the drunkest when I'm with you.
Draya
And he don't get sloppy. Let me just say that he don't get sloppy. Cause he knows that he has to watch me.
Lex P
Yeah, yeah, he know he.
Draya
You gotta watch me. And then I always got on six inch heels, Right?
Lex P
You gotta walk.
Draya
Yeah. Oh, he be like, he knows you don't fall. That's my cane. Come on, daddy. And then, you know, my knees start hurting. So you know what? Maybe I'll try like a little bent over the counter from the back. Protect the makeup. Lift the dress up. Maybe a little quickie before. Den. Den. Yeah. So just in case if I do have some more. More left after, we can have it. But if we don't have it after. Already got some dick. Yeah.
Lex P
Or before you do your makeup all the way. Like while you're getting dressed.
Draya
That's you.
Lex P
I've done that before, like at the. My bathroom sink or something, you know, like, where it's not full face, you know, so you don't mess it all up. Yeah, that's a good idea. I don't know. I've learned my lesson with trying to get drunk and then have sex. Like, I remember we had went to the Usher concert and we had such a great time. A lot of memories. Why was it a lot of good memories?
Draya
Cause y' all do have a lot of good memories. Okay.
Lex P
We didn't went to the I can't
Draya
wait to sing at the wedding. We went to the Startup.
Lex P
Okay. We had went to the Usher concert and we was just having so much fun. And we got so drunk and I passed out. Like, I was like, ooh, yeah, but it's cooshi on you.
Draya
I ain't gonna lie.
Lex P
Coochie was not put on him. Yeah, yeah.
Draya
I've been passed out a few times, but I'm not Gonna lie. One time we got. So we passed out during.
Lex P
Yeah, me too.
Draya
I woke up, I said, get that.
Lex P
I got a photo in my phone right now of me, like, passed out. When I was, like, doing it in front of back, like, right in front of me, and I guess I fell asleep.
Draya
He took a picture of me and
Lex P
sent it to me.
Draya
He had them toes out. The toes was in the picture.
Lex P
No, I was a revert. Like, I was.
Draya
I know. So if he took it, I mean,
Lex P
his toes was out. Yeah.
Draya
And I said, I. I know y' all in love.
Lex P
Okay.
Draya
He took a picture of them toes.
Lex P
He got nice toes.
Draya
I know. I'm just saying.
Lex P
But, yeah, that picture is funny as hell. Cause I just. The next day when I woke up, I didn't even remember passing out.
Draya
That's how sometimes when you be that drunk.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
And you start riding that dick. You ride that dick into oblivion. Literally. Oh, shit.
Lex P
Cause, bitch, I was just laid out, and he rolled me over and put the blanket over me.
Draya
Aw, that's a good man. Cause my man would have been like, you still got that mouth working. Open it up. Open it up, you said. See? See, that's how I know. That's how I know. Okay. Okay, let's move on. Oh, man.
Lex P
Okay, so now it's time to get into the bop.
Draya
Hey.
Lex P
The bop.
Draya
The bow. The bop. Bow, Bow, bow, bow, bow. Okay. I don't know if I have made this my bop before. I'm a little tipsy. I can't remember. Maybe he is. I. I don't think I did, but Brent Faez dropped a new project, and it's. I don't wanna say, actually, because I feel like sometimes when artists take, like,
Lex P
hiatus, you be a little worried. Yeah.
Draya
So there's one song called Wrong Faces on the project that I really, really like. I'm just. I've always been a fan of Brent Faiz, and I think he didn't disappoint. I think it gave us what we were expecting. It gave us what? But sometimes I think we need to understand that a artist will have their thriller. You know what I'm saying? But you have to appreciate the. What's the other album Uncle Jackson had? You know, you gotta appreciate. Okay. Like Beyonce, you gotta love. They gonna have. They Renaissance, but you gotta appreciate the.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
You know what I'm saying? The Four is still fucking amazing. Four is amazing. It's not Renaissance, but you gonna appreciate that 4. So I think, like, it's like Brent Fayes. This is like his Four. It's still fucking amazing. You know what I'm saying? And he's still young. I just think it's a good project. Solid. Shout out to Brent. Come sit on the couch and talk to us. You know, period. Big Dre, somebody called us. Big Draco and Lex. I can't remember what they called me. They said Big Draco, though. They did.
Lex P
Nobody called me that.
Draya
You're lying. Go ahead, do. I'm f to pull it up.
Lex P
You screenshotted it.
Draya
No, I'm f to pull it up.
Lex P
One thing about you, we need verification. Cuz you'll be making up, you'll be lying. Don't care I lied.
Draya
Somebody called me there.
Lex P
You know how people be like somebody said. And it was them the whole time.
Draya
She made it. She said, big Draco, please pull up. Please, please. But no.
Lex P
So I'm going to go. We're going to stay with the Brent F theme because I don't really have a bop this week. I haven't been listening to anything new.
Draya
That's fine.
Lex P
This week. So Brent has a lot of great songs. Like. And the other day, actually I was listening to Been Away and I was like, wow, this was such a good song. Been Away was such a good song.
Draya
Yeah. I love you. Been Away. What was that song you used to listen to by Brent Fayes?
Lex P
Which one?
Draya
Oh, that was the Bryson Tiller song.
Lex P
It was some. What Bryson Tiller song.
Draya
I can't remember. It was some Bryson Tiller song that you used to listen to and it
Lex P
was all the time.
Draya
How'd that go?
Lex P
No, I'm saying all the time. Yes, I used to listen to. Oh, my text.
Draya
It was some Bryson Tiller song. It always makes me think of you whenever I hear it.
Lex P
Yeah, I.
Draya
It was off a trap, so.
Lex P
I mean, I was always a really big Bryson Tiller fan.
Draya
Yeah.
Lex P
And Brent Fast, so I don't know. I really like.
Draya
Okay.
Lex P
Clouded in Middle Way.
Draya
I'm not mad at that.
Lex P
Those are my bops this week. I do need to go listen to the new album though, because I haven't listened to it.
Draya
It's good. It's good. So let me play the tick tock so y' all don't think I'm a liar. Okay, first of all, y', all, I'm gonna like this.
Lex P
And why you get to be Lex P and I gotta be Big Drake?
Draya
No, she said something for my name too. It is well past my bedtime, but I had to watch this episode of Poor Mods. Lex, Peter G and Fit Draco.
Lex P
Oh, y' all had me in tears.
Draya
Lex Peter G. What the is up? It's Lexi, Peter G. Yeah.
Lex P
Lex Peter G. I love that. Big Draco is Lexi, Peter G and Big Draco.
Draya
Draco.
Lex P
But that's kind of.
Draya
She ate that down. That's all I have to say.
Lex P
That's kind of tea. That could be like rap name.
Draya
That's what I'm saying.
Lex P
If we got in the studio and really made like a Poor Minds track.
Draya
I gotta tell her. I just talked about this on the show.
Lex P
If we really got in the studio and made a Poor Minds track like we've been saying we were going to for years, that could be our rap names. I said Lex P, the G and Big Draco on the show.
Draya
You ate.
Lex P
It's cute.
Draya
I like it.
Lex P
What's her name? Shout her out.
Draya
Oh, let me shout her out. I'mma put. We gonna post the clip. But her name is. Hey N. H E Y, N A I, uh. Oh, let me go to her page. It says regular day. N hey nah.
Lex P
Okay.
Draya
Hey N. Hey nah. Okay. Let's wrap this shit up. Okay. We f. To be done. We finna be done.
Lex P
So now it's time to get into to our favorite segment, okay. Which is pour your heart out. Do you have to pour your heart out?
Draya
Yes, I do.
Lex P
Okay, so now it's time to get into our favorite segment of the show, which is pour your heart out. You know, if you have any questions, send them to ask Poor Minds Gmail dot com. That's a S K P O U R M I N D sgmail.com. you ready?
Draya
Licks P to G. Draco. Big Draco. Sorry. Hot. How do I get back in the game? I'm still young as fuck, but the last time I dated, I had such a terribly traumatizing experience that it's turned me off from men altogether. I feel like I haven't had any experience that's really met my expectations. To be honest. You know, it started off bad and it just got worse. I know I should date again when I'm ready and I'm not ready. But how do I start the process? Because I do want kids, et cetera, real bad. Actually, nevermind. I'm not ready. You not ready. It's not any. Let me tell you something. There's no blueprint to life. Cause guess what? We die. Mm. And we don't know what happens. Nobody knows what they're doing. Y' all be seeing again. Going back. Y' all be seeing celebrities, influencers. And y' all think they don't got it figured out, either. You never know what goes on behind closed doors. If I. I'm gonna be honest. I'm the happiest I've ever been in my life right now since my mom died. It's a different type of happiness, though. You know what I'm saying? I had to adjust and understand what happiness means to me. Now. Happiness is what you make it. So you have to understand what do you really want, though? You know what I'm saying? And give yourself time to figure it out. Why do you want kids? Cause she said, oh, I want kids. Oh, no, I'm not. I'm not ready. Why do you want kids? Ask yourself, why the fuck do you want kids? If you say legacy, I'm not trying to hear that shit. Cause guess who has a legacy forever. Oprah. Ask who her kid is. Okay, thank you. I'm not trying to hear that shit now. Motherhood. Good. And, you know, that's different. You want to be a. That's different. Don't make. Don't let society tell you what you're supposed to do. Because if society told me what I was supposed to do, I would have got married to that nigga I was living with when I was 21. Figure out what you want. Take your time. Don't be in a rush. And stop looking at other people. I can tell you. Looking at other people.
Lex P
Yeah, I agree with that. I just think, like, do what feels good to you and figure out who you are and what you like and what makes you happy.
Draya
Come on.
Lex P
Again, we live in a society where people are always looking to other people for what they should do with their life. Like, nobody really have their own thoughts or original goals anymore. Seriously.
Draya
The original goals is real. Yeah.
Lex P
Nobody really has, like, personal goals that are sacred to them. And it's like, no, I want to do this because it means something to me. I think a lot of the things that people want to do, they want to do it because they see other people doing it. And then a lot of the time to see other people doing it and feel like, oh, they look easy, if they could do it, I could do it too. It's not any real foundation behind it. You don't even know what you really like. You don't even know who you really are. Figure out what you like and who you are. Like you said, figure out your why. Why do you want to have kids? Cuz, I do agree with you. When I was younger, I used to think I wanted to have kids because of, like, legacy, But I think that that's a selfish reason to have kids. Cuz that's like, it's vague. It's. Yeah, it's bringing kids into the world because it's bringing people into the world because you kind of in a sense, want to be immortalized. Like you always want to have a piece of you or a piece of your lineage still here and feel like you're still here even when you're not. If you're having children because you really want to be a mother and it's something that you've always wanted and you feel like that's going to make you complete, or if you leave this world and you don't get the opportunity to do that, that's why you want to have kids. Or even if you just with the love of your life, you meet a man, it's just so amazing and y' all love each other so deeply, you want to create a life with him.
Draya
I've always said that. And, and when I meet a man, I say the world deserves another.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
Yes.
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Lex P
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Lex P
And I think people definitely have children. And don't get me wrong, just because you want a child for legacy, that doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna automatically be a bad parent. But I think if that show. Number one reason you do need to reevaluate your. Why yes, you know, because I.
Draya
Like I said, it's a lot of people out here who have children. Not a lot of people out here, but it's a lot of people that are legends and we do not talk about they.
Lex P
And also too. Cause when it comes to legacy, what if your child don't end up coming out the way you envision in your mind? Are you still gonna love them the same if they not perfect? Like, what if you end up having a child that's like paraplegic?
Draya
Or what if you end up having a child like me that wanna talk about sucking dick on camera?
Lex P
Well, that's not so bad. Cause you're.
Draya
No, it is bad. No, it is. Imagine if I was Jesse Jackson's daughter. Seriously, let's talk about it, though. Because that's not the worst thing in the world, having a pair of. Plus, what if you got a bitch that likes sucking dick and talking about it on camera?
Lex P
I mean, you ain't wrong, Queen.
Draya
Exactly. So I have messed up your leg. Cause who is it? Laurence Fishburne.
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Lex P
I bet his daughter was a porn father.
Draya
I bet his daughter, she came to dreams. Couldn't shake ass worth a damn. Yeah. Everybody's like, why are you here? Nobody gives a fuck that your daddy is Laurence Fishburne. And this ain't no shade no tea. I love Laurence Fishburne, but I say all that to say it does not matter because he still fucking Lawrence. Fish burn.
Lex P
And she couldn't make the fish burn.
Draya
She could not. That fish was burning.
Lex P
Okay?
Draya
That fish was burnt. Take it off the skillet. Nobody want it. It's burnt. It's burnt. We don't want that shit. So I say, that's. It's true. It's true. Oh, brother.
Lex P
So I say, lady name we sorry, ma'. Am.
Draya
It was like Montana or something. Oh, yeah, it was Montana. It was like Montana Fishburne. She was very beautiful girl. She was. She was smoking a cigarette when I met her smoking a cigarette. She was like, y', all, I don't talk to my job anymore. But you know, that's how shit goes in Hollywood. I mean, everybody acts like that when you're a Nepo, baby. That's how they all.
Lex P
They all act like that.
Draya
They not. I think I know.
Lex P
But yes, girl, figure out what it is that you want to do. And good luck to you.
Draya
Good luck to you.
Lex P
So y' all know, make sure y' all go tomuse beauty collection.com. get your lip glosses, your matte liquid lipsticks, lip liners, mascara, eyeliner, jelly bush, all the things. I don't have any makeup on today, but I do have them.
Draya
Skin tea. Thank you. What is it that you put on your skin? What is this moisturizer?
Lex P
This is the Medicube.
Draya
Oh, you're a Medicube, girl.
Lex P
I am. This is the Medicube. What is it called? The. The vitamin C. Okay. The one that has, like the little pearls in it?
Draya
Yeah. Okay. I'm not mad at it.
Lex P
It's that one. I can't remember the exact name, but
Draya
I'm not girly, because I thought that they were liars.
Lex P
But no, that's what I use. I use the vitamin C. It's the vitamin C moisturizer. I use that during the day. And then I also put my sunscreen on, which is the Kiehl's SPF 50 serum.
Draya
That's your last step?
Lex P
It is, and that's what I want to do.
Draya
What is this last step?
Lex P
It's probably the Kiehls SPF 50 serum. It's. It's more like a. It's a sunscreen, but it's more like a serum. And that's what I like about it,
Draya
is it's a chemical. Is it a chemical? What do you mean, spf? Because, you know, the sunscreen is either chemical or it's the physical.
Lex P
Oh, I don't know.
Draya
But I have.
Lex P
I have a travel version in my car, so I can show it to you.
Draya
Yeah, show it to me. Because, you know, chemical, they say it's like when you're hungry. Chemical is like you're eating potatoes of chips. Physical is like you're eating strawberries. It still gets the jobs done.
Lex P
Okay.
Draya
But the physical is supposed to be better. I know.
Lex P
That's why you better school me. I didn't know that, but I do. That is my all time favorite sunscreen. Okay. I've been using it for probably over a year now. And I like the fact that it is more Like a serum. And it does not leave a white cast.
Draya
It's. It's chemical.
Lex P
Yeah, it's chemical, yeah.
Draya
Okay.
Lex P
Sunscreen serum. Yes, Kiehl Sunscreen serum. You said physical.
Draya
Physical is the best.
Lex P
Okay, so how do you know the difference? Just because it doesn't.
Draya
So chemical is usually the one that it absorbs in your skin. And so what it does is it takes the UV rays and it absorbs it and like, releases it in your body. So it's absorbing it. So physical is it sits on top of your skin, which is why we have the white cast. They try to do the tinting, but it blocks it. It blocks it completely. That's the best one for you.
Lex P
So with the cast.
Draya
It's the cast. So I do have one that has a slight cast on it. But you can rub it in, but you gotta let it set for a little bit. So with physical, you can put it on and go outside immediately. With chemical, you have to wait 15 minutes and then you're supposed to go out. Okay, so you can use chemical. It does work, but it's like.
Lex P
But just know you need to do it. If you. 15 minutes before you 15 minutes before.
Draya
But it's like, do you want them potato chips or do you want them strawberries? Potato chips? It ain't gonna, like, harm you. For real? For real. But in the long run, what are the damages and effects? Cause I don't think there's any studies on the long run of it, but they. I always see my dermatologist. No shade, no tea. I had a really bad breakout recently, and my dermatologist, I found her on zoccon. I'm not kidding. I didn't go zocdoc. Seriously. I went to Zocdoc and finally I had a cystic acne breakout. And it was just very educational. But that's. The sunscreen is something I've been knowing. But yeah, for black women, it sucks, but we need to use physical. But that's why it's important. Also, this goes into another point. Take some vitamin D. Put pills. There is something with fibroids and vitamin D. When we go into the sun, we don't get vitamin D like the other races do, because the sun does not absorb into our skin because we are melanated. There's a study with vitamin D and fibroids and things like that. Just take your vitamin D, child. It's good for your hair. But small doses now, you don't want to overdo it, obviously consult your doctor and things like that. But yeah, it's a lot girl when you get older. You know, I go to the doctor all the time.
Lex P
Yeah, me too. But I've always been a little bit of a hypochondriac.
Draya
Yes, same, same. So. So that's what I'm on the journey right now because I'm trying to like I fixed the problem with my skin. I need to know why the it happened.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
What happened.
Lex P
But you know they say everything that happens externally is internal.
Draya
Yes. And I think honestly. Cause I've been eating nothing but whole foods now, Right. I'm on my whole food journey. So I was like, I wonder if it was something I was eating.
Lex P
Yeah, that's something.
Draya
Cause I had a wild fucking Christmas and Thanksgiving.
Lex P
Yeah, it might have been something you were eating. You know, I've never had anti inflammatory. The anti inflammatory diet is really popular right now.
Draya
Yes.
Lex P
So yes, a lot of people have been doing that.
Draya
And honestly all it is is eat whole foods.
Lex P
Yeah.
Draya
If the ingredients is sweet potato and it say sweet potatoes, potato. Eat it. That's it. No. Turkey bacon. No. Turkey sausage. No. Listen, ground. Ground turkey, ground chicken, chicken breast, chicken thighs, fruits, whole fruits, whole vegetables and you'll be fine. And it's a way you can cook it that's still good.
Lex P
So now we're going to get. This is a Taylor Port episode. So y' all know we have to get into the Bottle up segments. Go ahead, Morgan.
Draya
I know when somebody about to ask me for money. I tested my theory a few times. I'm an ambivert and I keep to myself a lot. But then when I'm out, I'm out. I live comfortably, praise God, and I
Lex P
have no worries fiscally.
Draya
And I guess people see that.
Lex P
They see me looking good, smelling good,
Draya
doing here and there, always fly.
Lex P
And then I don't know why that
Draya
opens doors for them to ask me for money. These are not people I talk to every day.
Lex P
These are people that don't check on
Draya
me, don't see me, no nothing, don't
Lex P
give a about me. But soon as they see me doing something, you feel me. And it kind of.
Draya
It disappoints me. Yeah.
Lex P
Because it's like, damn, you don't give a about me. Imagine I could imagine if you knew how much money I really had and how much money I'm actually making.
Draya
You know, I keep to myself now. Cuz people are weird and broke mentally and spiritually. Oh, okay, okay. She cleaned it up.
Lex P
Okay.
Draya
I agree with that.
Lex P
I told you, let it out, girl. Let it out.
Draya
Yeah, let it Out. But I told you that was the main thing with people still. People are still asking me for money. Yeah. I think they haven't seen the episode where I talked about I didn't like cuz it's. Did you ask how I was doing? How are you? Y' all don't care. Y' all see me doing things for my house. But again, none of that stuff even matters. I think I struggled for a long time, but I was working. I worked. I don't. When Kim said get your ass up and fucking work.
Lex P
Work. Got to get your ass.
Draya
You got to get your ass up and work. Absolutely nothing has changed from the beginning of time. My mom worked her ass off. I've never been. Now there's certain situations where things happen and it's like a big amount of money that you probably need help for. Yes. Y' all be doing weird and be like, oh my God, I talked about an influencer and now they're suing me. So I need help with my lawyer. Lawyers, yeah.
Lex P
That's crazy.
Draya
That happens.
Lex P
Well, you shouldn't have been talking.
Draya
Exactly. I'm not helping you pay your rent because you decided to get something. I always say this. I'm always going to live under my means.
Lex P
I think that's the key to keeping money.
Draya
Yeah. So I'm with.
Lex P
But yeah, girl, I feel you. Sometimes you just got to let it out. People will drive you crazy if you let them. Don't let people drive you crazy. Just focus on you. Stay focused on your life and doing what you need to do for yourself. And don't worry about other people and don't let them stress you out. And just one of the main things in life to being happy is learning how to tell people no.
Draya
Come on.
Lex P
If you want to stay happy, learn how to say no.
Draya
And that's a.
Lex P
And it's gonna hurt other people feelings. But how is. But it's gonna keep you happy because you're not going to be doing things that you don't want to do to make others happy. And I say that.
Draya
Yeah.
Lex P
And I say that as somebody who I used to like. Never want to let people around me down, like my friends, my family. I always used to feel like I had to show up for everything. Do every. Just always be that present person. And I still, don't get me wrong, I still do try to be that person in my friends and my family's life. But it's also okay sometimes if I can't make it cuz I'm not in the mood. I don't need to try to force myself to be in the mood to do stuff that I know I don't need to do. And like Lex said, no is a complete sin. So if I tell somebody no, it's just no. I don't need to tell you you why?
Draya
Yep.
Lex P
If I'm giving you a good enough time in advance to let you know I can't do it. I don't need to tell you why. So yeah, just choose yourself.
Draya
What a man, sister.
Lex P
But yes, this has been a great episode. Like I said. Muse beautycollection.com love lexp every Monday 10am 10am every Monday. Make sure y' all watch my girl. Subscribe to her channel and yeah, we
Draya
only went a little bit over hour.
Lex P
Okay we go but they're going to enjoy it cuz they love long episodes. So see y' all later. Love y'.
Draya
All. Walk away. Dance with me I want to rock your bunny please stay Dance with me. You don't have to admit you want
Lex P
to play Dance with me
Draya
to the break of day
Lex P
Got time but I
Draya
don't mind Just wanna rock you girl I'll have whatever you have Come on,
Lex P
just give it a whirl.
Draya
See I've been watching you and I like the way you move so girl head and girl just do that shake so you grab your girls and you grab a couple more and you all can meet me in the middle of the mall so you're at the seat
Lex P
so you pass to the left and you sail to the right.
Draya
Don't be so quick to walk away. You don't have to admit you wanna
Lex P
play Dance with me Then let me
Draya
rock you to the break d Let me rock your motherfucking ass to the break D Just wanna rock you girl Girl, sing it.
Lex P
Period.
Draya
Sing it.
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No.
Draya
Sing it.
Lex P
That's all I got. See y' all next week.
Draya
I'll have whatever you.
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Draya
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Lex P
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Lex P
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Draya
We can't wait to meet you.
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Draya
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Draya
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Lex P
Guaranteed Human.
Podcast: Pour Minds Podcast
Episode: To Be Or Not To BBL
Date: March 13, 2026
Hosts: Drea & Lex P
Theme: Navigating life, relationships, beauty standards, and the realities of Black womanhood, with an unfiltered and entertaining deep dive into cosmetic surgery (BBLs), dating discourse, fame, and contemporary culture.
In this lively, candid episode, Drea and Lex P discuss the cultural obsession and controversy surrounding BBLs (Brazilian Butt Lifts), their experiences with cosmetic procedures, and the double standards women face around body modification. They also reflect on Black women’s progress (and continued marginalization) in media, parasocial celebrity relationships, loss, and the joys and pitfalls of modern relationships. As always, the tone is humorous, direct, and deeply relatable.
[03:08] – [04:20], [29:15] – [39:46]
“So what's the truth, ho ass niggas? What is the truth? If y'all are saying, ‘oh, it's giving BBL,’ but then you saying BBL. Why? What is that truth?” (03:43 – Draya)
“When the legs be real small and then that booty be humongous, it don't be looking right. And I think that's what people be having in mind…” (31:18 – Lex P)
“I went back for a second round... I just wanted a little more on the top of my butt... I think once you get realistic goals for yourself, that's when people stop botching themselves.” (36:53 – Draya)
[29:15] – [39:46]
“Y’all be using it to shade girls. But then y’all wanna use it to compliment girls. Because deep down inside that means... you done seen a BBL or two that look good.” (36:45 – Draya)
[05:01] – [10:54]
“Even though it’s 2026, [...] we’re still behind in a lot of things... we’re not being talked about and we’re not in [certain rooms]. So I feel like me and Draya have done a good job... to open these doors.” (07:10 – Lex P)
[10:02] – [17:32]
“Marriage is not going to change you overnight just because now you got a ring on your finger… relationships should not be this hard.” (18:33 – Lex P)
[18:47] – [22:33]
“Relationships are something that are always evolving... If you don't want to hear about relationship stuff, there is a whole category called political science on podcasting, literally.” (20:19 – Draya)
[22:33] – [28:50], [52:06] – [57:00]
“He did a really good job… snuck balloons and flowers in the car… woke up to breakfast.” (22:51 – Lex P)
[42:06] – [46:40], [46:40] – [49:38]
“Dissolving hurts. It stings so bad... I was just scared that it was never gonna go back down...” (45:54 – Lex P)
[57:18] – [84:35]
[94:27] – [109:14]
“When me and my man go out, we have sex in the morning, the next day.” (102:10 – Draya) “What if you mess my makeup? I done got all cute and shit.” (103:23 – Lex P)
[114:07] – [124:59], [130:27] – [134:13]
Advice for dealing with dating anxiety:
“There's no blueprint to life. Cause guess what? We die. And we don't know what happens. Nobody knows what they're doing.” (115:17 – Draya) “Figure out what you like and who you are... figure out your why.” (117:01 – Lex P)
Riff on legacy as a bad reason for having kids—be sure it’s for yourself!
Bottle Up segment: Responds to a listener frustrated that people only reach out to ask for money.
“One of the main things in life to being happy is learning how to tell people no.” (133:29 – Lex P)
“If a girl openly says, ‘Oh, I have a BBL,’ you're like, ugh, stank, nasty, whore. Then another girl... it's giving that you laid on that table. But it came natural to you. So BBLs do look good?” (03:59 – Draya)
“We’re still hitting mil. We’re still kind of like... still people like, I have never seen these girls, and I love them down.” (07:42 – Draya)
“If you're gonna go get something to enhance your buttocks, you need to hit that gym or you need to eat... [otherwise] the legs don't match.” (31:12 – Lex P)
“Music is a frequency... I can connect moments where I was listening to Takeoff or listening to Nipsey or listening to Michael Jackson.” (64:31 – Draya)
“Nobody really has, like, personal goals that are sacred to them... a lot of the things that people want to do, they want to do it because they see other people doing it.” (117:03 – Lex P)
“I could spot it from a mile away. My BBL radar be on point.” (34:03 – Lex P)
“We woke up the next morning and got two.” – “Did you say before you could get that turkey?” (56:22 – Draya/Lex)
The hosts transition organically from cosmetic surgery and the social debate around it, to their personal journeys with beauty standards, reflect on their podcast success, and candidly tell stories about relationships, friendships, and sexuality. They connect current cultural debates to their lived experiences, and consistently pivot to audience questions, keeping the show interactive and down to earth.
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