Too Thick to Handle

Summary

Pour Minds Podcast – "Too Thick to Handle"

Hosts: Draya Nicole & Lex P
Date: September 19, 2025
Podcast Description: Two single Houstonians in Atlanta, Draya and Lex, navigate life, friendships, and dating, serving up hot topics and advice with wine in hand.

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Episode Overview

This episode takes on a signature Pour Minds blend of humor, real talk, and candid storytelling. Draya and Lex, without a guest this week, dive into personal experiences and pop culture, covering topics from body image and Black culture to shaving preferences, generational changes in dating, and self-confidence. Throughout, they keep it relatable and unfiltered, making space for honest (and often hilarious) confessions while encouraging listeners to love themselves and mind their business.

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Key Topics & Discussions

1. Body Confidence & Being "Thick" (Main Theme)

• Is Being Thick "All That"?
  Kicking off the episode's main theme, Draya asks if being curvy comes with too many problems, especially from the perspective of a "thick" woman. This sparks a real conversation about self-worth, body image, and public commentary.

  • Draya’s Take:
    “If anything, I just feel like, how do I know you like me for me? Or is it just because I’m fine? Like, I'm too thick?” (36:01)

  • Lex’s Perspective:
    “It's not about being too thick or I wish I was skinnier... What comes with a lot is just having confidence about yourself.” (36:36)
    “It doesn't matter if you got a 52 inch ass or a 2 inch ass, it doesn't matter. The thing that intimidates people is your confidence.” (37:26)

  • Handling Criticism:
    Both hosts discuss public scrutiny and unsolicited comments, from weight loss and "BBL" surgery speculation to assumptions about cosmetic procedures.

    • Memorable:
      “Let people do them…if you happy with that body and you think it look good…then do you.” – Draya (43:56) “Every decision I have ever made with my body… I do things for me to make me happy. So yes, it is all that for me. It don’t need to be all that for you.” – Lex (41:25)

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2. Body Modification & Black Women as the Blueprint

• Cosmetic Enhancements: Judgment, Confessions, and Genetics:
  The conversation naturally shifts to criticism Black women face over their appearances, especially accusations about plastic surgery.
  • “Black women are the aesthetic. We are the originals. People want to look like us!” – Draya (49:16)
  • “Surgery can’t outwork good genetics.” – Draya (50:03) They emphasize that cosmetic procedures are common and discuss their own experiences candidly, reinforcing support for each other’s choices and calling for more acceptance.

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3. Food, Southern Culture & Black History

[02:37–15:20]

• The episode starts out lighthearted, with memories of Houston, Lufkin, and Louisiana growing up, childhood foods (Cheddar’s croissants, chicken fried steak), and Black Southern cuisine.
• On "slave food":
  Draya asks about the legacy of "slave food"—dishes that come from the times when Black people were given scraps and made do. Lex references "High on the Hog" on Netflix for the historical background.
  • “That’s why it’s like Black people can cook so well. Y’all was trying to give us the scraps…and we still were making amazing meals and feeding our families off that.” – Lex (13:00)
• Lighthearted Food Moments:
  Jokes about the misunderstanding of "dirty rice" and the meaning of "giblet" (10:07), leading into deeper reflections on culture and resilience through food.

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4. Race, Ethnicity & Global Black Identity

[17:08–34:52]

• The hosts dissect an internet debate about Kamala Harris’s racial identity, using it to unpack misunderstandings between race and ethnicity.
• Education through Travel:
  Lex credits travel (and her friend Killa) for opening her world: “When you travel the world, you realize how similar we are versus different… Geography is important in school.” (20:31)
• African & Caribbean Diaspora:
  Draya shares her exploration into her own identity (Creole, Dominican, Afro-Latina) and describes learning about multicultural communities in Jamaica and the UK, noting that Black Americans often feel disconnected from ancestral roots compared to Black people elsewhere.
  • “Here in America…we’re not really as tapped in with our culture.” – Draya (32:04)
  • “American culture is a thing, especially Black American culture. It’s very real.” – Lex (33:16)

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5. Generational Dating, Social Media & "Hurt Community"

[54:07–57:35]

• They reflect on how dating and public perceptions have changed with technology. Social media amplifies scrutiny, groupthink, and "barbershop talk" on a massive scale.
  • “All the Internet is, is the barbershop spread worldwide.” – Lex (54:34)
• New Apps:
  • Draya brings up gendered review apps for dating, questioning if society is too focused on finding dirt on people rather than getting to know them organically.
    • “Are we really that hurt and that up where…you want to get on an app to find out about the person before you actually really get to know them?” (56:22)

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6. Motherhood, Career Women & Breaking Generational Cycles

[58:00–63:56]

• Real talk about why more career-driven women today are waiting (or opting out) of having children, with both hosts sharing self-awareness about what’s required to raise kids in the lifestyle they want.
  • “I kind of get why career driven women just wait a little bit…There is no way I could have had a baby on my hip yesterday.” – Lex (59:30)
  • “I want my children to be born into a life of [security]…I never want them to know struggle at all.” – Draya (60:49)

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7. Shaving, Grooming & Double Standards

[64:09–76:41]

• Hilarious, unfiltered debate on pubic grooming preferences—for both men and women.
  • “My coochie is hairy as fuck right now. I told y’all, I’ve been going through it… I just ain’t had time to go get a wax.” – Lex (67:28)
  • “Cover em up a little bit. Put a little coat on that motherfucker.” – Lex, about male body hair (66:08)
  • “If you shave it, that ain’t a shaving problem, you still gonna be musty because musty come from folds.” – Draya (66:27)
• Girl talk sets the tone for honesty and acceptance, but also personal preferences—some want it bald, some prefer hair, and everyone acknowledges the chaos that can come with a “chicken fried” leg or ass.
• They lighten it further with playful quips:
  • “That fooder. That fatty upper dick.” – Draya (74:01)

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8. Music, Mood & Bops of the Week

[78:30–84:11]

• Lex’s Bop: Shine – "Bad Boys" (classic jam)
• Draya’s Bop: Burna Boy – "Love" (new feel-good Afrobeats track)
• Sharing personal updates about relationships:
  • “My DMs have been flooded…But I’m really enjoying my peace right now.” – Lex (81:21)
  • “I feel like my husband is on the way…I’ve been passing all of these tests with flying colors.” – Draya (82:46)

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9. Pour Your Heart Out – Listener Advice Segment

[89:30–97:23]

• Listener Dilemma #1: Bride worried about her friend’s weight & wedding photos.
  • “Just be honest about your feelings… Sometimes it doesn’t matter how you say it. If somebody’s hearing something that they don’t want to hear, it’s going to hurt their feelings.” – Draya (94:00)
  • “It sounds like you kind of have a problem with her weight, too.” – Lex (95:32)
• Listener Dilemma #2: Fun-sized girl with bad knees asks for tips on riding a man in bed.
  • “You have to learn how to ride dick and more so use your knees than your feet…” – Draya (98:47)

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Notable & Memorable Quotes

• “Surgery can’t outwork good genetics.” – Draya (50:03)
• “It’s confidence that makes [a] big ass woman.” – Lex (37:26)
• “Let people do them.” – Draya (43:56)
• “Black women are the aesthetic. We are the originals.” – Draya (49:16)
• “My coochie is hairy as fuck right now… It’s so bad down there, y’all, I said good googly moogly, bitch.” – Lex (67:28)
• “It’s not about what you say, it’s how you say it.” – Lex (94:00)
• “Sometimes…the things that you're gonna say, it doesn't matter how you say it. If somebody is hearing something that they don't want to hear, it's going to hurt their feelings.” – Draya (94:02)
• “You got to really be ready for the next step, and you really got to let things go.” – Lex (84:11)

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Top Timestamps for Reference

| Topic | Timestamp | |-------------------------------------|-------------| | Southern food & Black culture | 02:37–15:20 | | Body image, confidence, “being thick”| 35:52–43:56 | | Cosmetic enhancement, plastic surgery| 43:56–51:57 | | Race, ethnicity, identity | 17:08–34:52 | | Generational dating, social media | 54:07–57:35 | | Motherhood & being career-driven | 58:00–63:56 | | Shaving/grooming debate | 64:09–76:41 | | Listener advice/Pour Your Heart Out | 89:30–97:23 |

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Summary & Takeaways

• Self-love is the core message: Whether you’re “too thick to handle," skinnier, curvier, natural, or enhanced—own your beauty and do what makes you happy.
• Stay culturally curious: The episode encourages listeners to keep learning about their own history and others’, with special attention to the nuances of the Black diaspora.
• Let people live: There’s strong advocacy for ending body shaming, letting folks modify themselves how they like, and respecting personal genres of beauty, grooming, and self-expression.
• Gen Z/Millennial energy: Draya and Lex embody the new woman: candid, career-driven, unfiltered, and unwilling to settle for less—in love or life.
• Community & laughter: All delivered in Pour Minds' signature “drunk therapy session” style, full of laughter, sidebars, and quotable gems.

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If you’re looking for an episode full of real talk, belly laughs, and affirmation while you sip your wine—this is it.

Transcript

[Draya Nicole]

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[Draya Nicole]

And as a curvy woman, are there times when you actually like to be skinny or wish that you were smaller and tone down certain body parts?

[Lex P]

I'll let you go first.

[Draya Nicole]

Me?

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

I'm not as thick as you, but.

[Lex P]

Girl, shut up.

[Draya Nicole]

However. However, you know, I. I don't necess. I wouldn't say it come with too many problems. If anything, I just feel like, how do I know you like me for me? Or is it just because I'm fine? Like, I'm too thick? Like.

[Lex P]

Oh, my God.

[Draya Nicole]

I know it's real.

[Lex P]

What's up, y'? All? It's your girl Lex.

[Draya Nicole]

And it's your girl Draya Nicole.

[Lex P]

And you are tuned in to another episode of Poor Minds, where a drunk.

[Draya Nicole]

Mind speaks sober thoughts.

[Lex P]

We ain't got no guests today. We ain't got no guests today. I think when we do the intro, they pretty much know when we don't have a guest. Cause that means I'm on the white.

[Draya Nicole]

Couch and you on that white liquor.

[Lex P]

I'm always on that white. Do you remember that song, Full of that brown? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Full of that white. Yeah, that's that Louisiana. If y' all in the comments from Louisiana, y' all know what I'm talking about.

[Draya Nicole]

You know, I'm not from Louisiana.

[Lex P]

Neither am I, but.

[Draya Nicole]

But you was close. I wasn't that close.

[Lex P]

I was on that bayou, baby.

[Draya Nicole]

Houston is, like, not far, but it's also not, like, close. Like, the closest, I think, is what? Lake Charles is like two hours. Lake Charles, I think it's like, two hours.

[Lex P]

What you mean, the closest city?

[Draya Nicole]

I guess the closest to Houston.

[Lex P]

No, no, no, no, no. Vinton, Louisiana.

[Draya Nicole]

Probably it's the closest to Houston.

[Lex P]

Cuz Vin, you definitely hit Vinton before you hit Lake Charles. But Lake Charles is a bigger city, right? Probably the closest big.

[Draya Nicole]

So that's what everybody think of.

[Lex P]

Yeah. Wait, I'm about to sound dumb. What? Shreveport's in Louisiana.

[Draya Nicole]

It is.

[Lex P]

Oh. But you know what? It depends what side of Texas that you're on.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah. That's what I'm saying. All of that depends.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

For me, Lake Charles was always somewhere that I went growing up. Cause my granddad was from Lake Charles, and my family is from Lake Charles. They from Opelousas.

[Lex P]

That's where that good food is.

[Draya Nicole]

Baton Rouge, Shreveport, they from a lot of places in Louisiana, but my granddad was from Lake Charles, so I used to go to Lake Charles a lot. And it was like, two hours to get there, so I never thought about Vinton Cause I never went there before.

[Lex P]

You gonna pass through Vinton to get to Lake Charleston? Okay. Okay. Vinton. A little small town. It's actually probably smaller than Orange. Vinton is tiny.

[Draya Nicole]

It's like Lufkin.

[Lex P]

Ooh, Lufkin's probably bigger than Vinton. Vinton is so tiny.

[Draya Nicole]

You know what's funny? When I went to college, when I went to SFA in Nacogdoches, Lufkin was the big town to go to. So whenever we needed to go to the mall, whenever we wanted to go to a fancy restaurant and eat, we would go to Lufkin. We would drive. And it was like 30 minutes to get to Lufkin from Nacogdoches. And yeah, they had, like, Olive Garden. They had Cheddar's.

[Lex P]

Ooh, Cheddar's used to be that one.

[Draya Nicole]

Like them croissants.

[Lex P]

Croissants with that butter with the honey butter. Remember that spinach dip they used?

[Draya Nicole]

Spinach dip used to be busted. I mean, Cheddar's was my jam. I used to love me some cheddar's. Ooh, I still ain't too good for a cheddar's.

[Lex P]

For sure. I'm still not too. I haven't had it in a while. But you know what? I eat that people.

[Draya Nicole]

You know, I don't even think we got that here.

[Lex P]

I don't think so either. But you know cuisines. I know my taste. Cuisines, Cuisines. With my croissant. I like a croissant with my croissant. Okay. I'm French. I told you I grew up next to Louisiana. You did. But anyways, my cuisines. I know my taste buds are a little different. I love chicken fried steak. I think chicken fried steak is so tasty.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah, you on your own with that one.

[Lex P]

I love a good chicken fried steak now, but I haven't had one in so long, I don't know where to get it from. Like House of Pies in Houston. They have the best chicken fried steak. And I haven't been there in so.

[Draya Nicole]

Long, I never ate there.

[Lex P]

Oh, House of Pies.

[Draya Nicole]

When I lived in Houston, I never. I mean, of course, House of Pies was always a thing, but I never ate there. I was always a whataburger girl.

[Lex P]

I went to House of Pies one night after the club, I think, with my brother, shout out to Mike Mogul, that's my bro, and he took me to House of Pies and I had the best chicken fried steak. I was that girl that used to go out with like the niggas. And I didn't care. Cause I'm a order bitch. What is you ordering chicken fried steak for? And the Bidipi's is out. I don't care. I'm on.

[Draya Nicole]

You still like that one thing about Lex? She really don't care.

[Lex P]

I don't care.

[Draya Nicole]

And I feel like I don't necessarily care. It's just certain stuff I just don't be liking.

[Lex P]

Yeah, you don't eat like that.

[Draya Nicole]

I'm a little picky.

[Lex P]

Yeah, you are picky. But I feel like you order what you want, but what you happen.

[Draya Nicole]

And I'm gonna tear it up.

[Lex P]

Yeah, you gonna tear it up. Now you finish your food. Now you gonna eat you. But you. You know my. I just feel like I'm not finna fake the funk. I want that chicken fried steak. You know what else? I stopped.

[Draya Nicole]

Why do they call it chicken fried steak?

[Lex P]

Because it's steak. It's cube steak. And you beat it down and you fry it in chicken batter. Oh, it's so. It's chicken fried steak.

[Draya Nicole]

So it's fried in the same batter as the chicken. The same. The chicken. They don't change the batter.

[Lex P]

Well, it's not about you talking about the Earl. They don't. They do change the Earl, maybe.

[Draya Nicole]

No, I'm talking about the batter. Oh, but like if they fry the chicken in it, they gonna put the steak in it. They not gonna switch out the batter.

[Lex P]

Well, they probably.

[Draya Nicole]

I'm trying to figure out what a name derived from why it can't just be fried steak.

[Lex P]

Because it's the same batter. Not the exact. Like if they use this batter for chicken, they're not gonna just pick up that same batter. But it's the same ingredients. Because sometimes people be allergic. So you got to separate the batter. But this is the chicken batter. And this same chicken batter, I'm using it for the steak. But they separate. Cause we don't do cross contamination. You feel me?

[Draya Nicole]

Right. But that's why. I guess that's why it be confusing to me. Cause I be like, why you just can't call it fried steak?

[Lex P]

Because this is fried steak. No, it's not.

[Draya Nicole]

It's chicken fried steak, but it's not chicken involved.

[Lex P]

But yes it is. Because we frying that steak like we fried that chicken. And it's a very. It's a secret recipe for certain people. Okay, Everybody's chicken fried steak don't taste the same. And a lot of people stop trying to get too fancy with it. You supposed to Use that cheap cube steak. It needs to be good and tender. It needs to be. I mean, if I can't bite through that steak, I don't want it.

[Draya Nicole]

I wonder if they have a vegan version.

[Lex P]

They got a vegan version of everything.

[Draya Nicole]

They do got a vegan version of everything.

[Lex P]

I don't want it.

[Draya Nicole]

They probably have a vegan giblet gravy.

[Lex P]

You know, I love a Ghibli. You done tickled my fancy with that one.

[Draya Nicole]

Hey, I never liked that. I used to like my dressing dry.

[Lex P]

Yeah, I like it a little more. I don't.

[Draya Nicole]

What the fuck is a giblet?

[Lex P]

I don't. It's something in that.

[Draya Nicole]

What is it?

[Lex P]

It's something in that chicken I don't like.

[Draya Nicole]

It's just certain stuff that. Like when we.

[Lex P]

Dirty rice.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah. I told you. I have a horror story with dirty rice. I never used to eat it growing up as a child.

[Lex P]

What is it? You never told me.

[Draya Nicole]

I did tell you this because I don't like it. I didn't like it. I thought it had dirt in it.

[Lex P]

I thought you said, like a horror story, like you took a bite and something.

[Draya Nicole]

No, I thought it had dirt in it. So I just wouldn't eat it for a really long time. And then finally one day when I was like 8 or 9, I finally tried it and I was like, this is good, actually.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

And my mom was like, I told you, it don't got dirty. I don't know. I thought it had dirty knees.

[Lex P]

So there's a difference between rice dressing and dirty rice?

[Draya Nicole]

No, it's not. To me, that's the same thing.

[Lex P]

Well, exactly. I learned dirty rice is when you have the liver and the giblet or whatever they put in there. It's rice dressing. When it's just like the ground beef and the pork sausage or whatever you put in yours. The what makes it dirty is the guts.

[Draya Nicole]

Can we look up what is a giblet? What is a gible? What makes giblet gravy?

[Lex P]

Ghibli, gibletty gliblit y. What is a giblet?

[Draya Nicole]

What is a giblet?

[Lex P]

We gonna find out.

[Draya Nicole]

This is.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

What is a giblet? Let's see.

[Lex P]

Okay. Cause I feel like a giblet. It's in the chicken. I know.

[Draya Nicole]

I keep thinking of a goblin. It is. Okay.

[Lex P]

What's a goon to a goblin? A giblet. What's a goon to a giblet?

[Draya Nicole]

A giblet is the liver, heart, gizzard and neck. Of a chicken or other fowl, usually removed before the bird is cooked and. And often used to make gravy, stuffing, or soup.

[Lex P]

Ooh.

[Draya Nicole]

So that's what it is.

[Lex P]

The gizzard. That's what. So if you put that in your rice, that's what makes it dirty rice, because that's what makes it dirty. Want to get a little unruly, but.

[Draya Nicole]

I think it's all of that.

[Lex P]

Yeah. So the. The giblet is all of that, and.

[Draya Nicole]

Y' all be tearing that giblet up.

[Lex P]

Yeah, it's all of that.

[Draya Nicole]

So I never, like. I said I never liked giblets.

[Lex P]

I don't mind a little gibletting.

[Draya Nicole]

No giblet. And then they be putting eggs in it.

[Lex P]

What kind of eggs?

[Draya Nicole]

Ghibli gravy has eggs in it. Bro, that is this. Well, let me not. Let me not dis. Disrespect people. Delicacies.

[Lex P]

That's my delicacy, and I'm offended.

[Draya Nicole]

It is. But, you know, like, a little gizzard. I used to up a little gizzard back in the day.

[Lex P]

Don't they have fried.

[Draya Nicole]

Only in my rice and in my dressing.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

Some people actually eat gizzards.

[Lex P]

I think they do. Fried gizzards.

[Draya Nicole]

I have a question. And it's like, you know, ruffle with some feathers. Do you feel like it's certain things that we still eat to this day that's like, slave food? Like, it's. It comes from, like, back during slavery times, and we still eat it even though we know.

[Lex P]

Absolutely.

[Draya Nicole]

It's not good.

[Lex P]

And I know you're not trying to be offensive, but I think this is a good educational moment. So there's a series on Netflix called High on the Hog, and it really shows you the history of the food that we eat, and it's so interesting. Yeah, but. Absolutely. Absolutely. Some of the. I mean, even when we did travel Queens and we learned about, you know, the Geechee people and their traditions. Absolutely. A lot of the recipes that we have to this day comes from, you know, the slavery times. Because, like we said, black people, we used to get the scraps. We used to get what was left over, and we learned how to make cuisines from the leftover meat that we had. And it still. That people are eating to this day. Yeah, but that's why, I think as time went on, we realized this is why it's like black people can cook so well. Cause y' all was trying to give us the scraps of nothing that mattered, and we still were making Amazing meals and feeding our families off of that. And that's why to this day, the cookout is a thing. We know how to throw it out.

[Draya Nicole]

Do you feel like if we know better, then why don't some people be doing better?

[Lex P]

Because that's.

[Draya Nicole]

It's just.

[Lex P]

No, it's not about that. It's like sometimes people like what they like. It's good food. Yeah, it's good food. Just because, I mean. I mean, health reasons. Of course things change. But I'm not gonna lie. My grandfather, my great grandfather, they used to raise hogs. He ate pork his entire life. That man lived to me, hog mall man, he lived to be 90 something years old. Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

My granddaddy lives to be 89.

[Lex P]

Eating pork his whole life. Smoked cigarettes, spit tobacco. Grew up in Vinton, Louisiana. You know what I'm saying?

[Draya Nicole]

Let me give y' all the giblet gravy recipe. Giblets from a whole chicken.

[Lex P]

A whole one.

[Draya Nicole]

So that includes the gizzards, the liver, et cetera. 4 cups of cold water, 4 tablespoons unsalted butter, all purpose flour, 2 cups of pan drippings from or chicken broth.

[Lex P]

Okay.

[Draya Nicole]

Half a cup of milk, a teaspoon of fine salt, half a teaspoon of freshly ground black pepper, Two large hard boiled eggs.

[Lex P]

Oh, you did say the eggs.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah. Cause when my granddaddy used to make it, used to have an egg yolk in it. Like from a hard boiled egg.

[Lex P]

Okay.

[Draya Nicole]

That's why I think I never would want it. Cause I would be like, I just want the dressing. I don't want that gravy on it. But I also don't like cranberries sauce.

[Lex P]

You know, cranberry is a hit or miss for me.

[Draya Nicole]

You like, but you really love cranberry juice. You a cranberry juice connoisseur?

[Lex P]

It's in my fridge right now.

[Draya Nicole]

But you don't like the sauce?

[Lex P]

It depends. I realized I like the homemade cranberry sauce.

[Draya Nicole]

I don't like the can, not the ocean spray.

[Lex P]

Yeah, yeah. Like, it's so crazy when I think about Thanksgiving. Growing up, I had some of the best Thanksgivings. I mean, everything was made from scratch. Everything was made. I'm not gonna lie. We had a good friendsgiving this past year though. Cause we us aren't friends. We can cool down. We can really cook though.

[Draya Nicole]

We can.

[Lex P]

Like everybody, like, we really was cooking. And that's what Thanksgiving, like, let's get down to the nitty gritty. Let's cook. Let's everybody bring a dish. Everybody who got clean kitchens, though? Everybody. Kitchen not clean.

[Draya Nicole]

How do you know, though?

[Lex P]

Cause I've been to all y' all house.

[Draya Nicole]

I'm not talking about us. I'm saying in general. Like, with friends. How would people even know if they friend got a good.

[Lex P]

Well, because the people that I celebrate friendsgiving with, that's who I've been to all y' all house. Thanksgiving, I go to my Auntie Lane's house. That's it. Before that, it was in my sister's kitchen with me, my mom, my sister, and my nephews. I know what's going on. I don't. I don't play that shit.

[Draya Nicole]

I don't play that shit either. I just feel like. It's just so interesting to me, the differences between, like, how we cook our food and how, you know, other race. Exactly. Cook they food. I seen this video sidebar. I seen this video earlier today on Instagram. Shout out to Ali.

[Lex P]

Our girl.

[Draya Nicole]

Yes, my girl. Fine ass Ellie. So she had posted this video earlier, and it was this guy. Oh, my God, what is his name? He be going viral all the time because he be schooling the people on politics. But anyways.

[Lex P]

Oh, Dean. You're talking about Dean. Yes, his name is Dean Whitaker. I don't know. Ooh, let me not.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah, I don't want to, like, misquote.

[Lex P]

Dean is very.

[Draya Nicole]

He. Damn. And it's not on his story no more.

[Lex P]

Yeah, I'll look it up. Tell it.

[Draya Nicole]

So anyway, so it was this lady that had called in, and she was talking about Kamala, right? And she was like, yeah, because, you know, she was basically talking about the Trump administration. And she was like, trump wanted to get this black woman. And she was like, well, actually, she's not even black. And he was like, well, why would you say that she's not black? And she was like, because she's not.

[Lex P]

Withers. Yes, Dean Withers.

[Draya Nicole]

Dean Withers.

[Lex P]

Shout out to Dean.

[Draya Nicole]

Shout out to Dean. Good old Dean.

[Lex P]

Good old Dean.

[Draya Nicole]

He's an ally.

[Lex P]

He is. So.

[Draya Nicole]

So, yeah. So he was like, well, why would you say that she's not black? And she was just like, because, like, she's not. And he was like, well, her dad is Afro Jamaican, and her mom is Asian. Like, her mom is Indian, Asian or whatever. And he was like, so she is black? And she was like, well, I don't consider her to be African American, which. Because she's not African American.

[Lex P]

Right? And what was funny was you can.

[Draya Nicole]

Hear the granddaughter trying to school her. And then she was like, well, whatever. And he Was like, explaining it to her. She. He was like, well, how do you think black people got to Jamaica? How do you think black people got to America? Well, no, he said america first. And she was like, through slavery. And he was like, okay, how do you think they got to Jamaica? And she was like, I don't know. And he was like, through the transatlantic slave trade. Same thing. And she was like, well, whatever. It's just so crazy to me how race and ethnicity be.

[Lex P]

I was beaten up about to say that.

[Draya Nicole]

She said, cuz then the same lady, and this is an older Caucasian lady, she was like, well, I don't consider people who are all people that are Asian are not Japanese. And he was like, yeah, because Japanese isn't a race.

[Lex P]

It'd be. It'd be beating.

[Draya Nicole]

It'd be really people up.

[Lex P]

It'd be beating they ass real bad.

[Draya Nicole]

He'd be beating they ass up real bad. Like people. People really don't be understanding. And it was so crazy because it was an older Caucasian lady. So she just ended up saying, well, whatever. Yeah, stuff is being passed down generation by generation. Even I'll say this as a black woman, I have had conversations with older black people in my family and race and ethnicity be them up too. They don't be understanding the difference either. And I just be like, I feel like it's our duty as millennials and Gen Z to really make sure that we, like, educate ourselves and educate our children and the generations coming up under us to understand the difference between race and ethnicity and just also stop making race such a big thing. People are people.

[Lex P]

I think that's what I've said that on a past episode. When you travel the world, you realize how similar we are versus different. Like, of course, traveling you learn about other cultures and things are different. We may eat different foods, but we all experience the same thing. We are so much more alike than we are different. You know what I'm saying? So it's so crazy that we judge people or treat people a certain way because you're darker than me, I'm lighter than you, my hair is curlier than yours, or I'm thicker than you, I'm skinnier than you. It is such a crazy concept. And the older I get, I'm just so glad that I took the time to really educate myself and also surround myself with educated people that are also open to educating themselves. I will say a lot of things I learned were from my friends. Like, when I met Killa, I felt like I was so ignorant to other cultures and experiences in life. And she really taught me so much and really got me into, like, traveling for real, you know what I'm saying? So I feel like it's so important. Geography is important in school. You feel like, okay, let me learn what this is, y'. All. Geography is important. You need to learn where these countries are. Y' all need to learn that, you know, Europe is a continent and it has different countries in there. It's not like the United States. So it's important that y' all understand and learn that, you know what I'm saying? It's just a lot of things that go into education, and that's why it doesn't stop whether you graduated high school or college, it's always important. I'm still, you know, sometimes I will still get on maps and I'll just look at the world. I'll be like, oh, my gosh, I didn't know this country was right here. I didn't know this was in proximity to this country. It's always important to keep learning.

[Draya Nicole]

I mean, even when it comes to Africa. I think a lot of the time, so many people think about Africa and they think of it as like a rural continent, but it's so.

[Lex P]

They don't even think it has a continent. They talk about it like it's a country.

[Draya Nicole]

They do.

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[Draya Nicole]

Beaches, it's so many people that look so different. Like Egyptians look so different from Nigerians. Like, except I could keep going on and on. Like it's just such a vast variety of people that live on the continent. Ethiopians and then you have Kenyans and like the list just goes on and on. And I think people have like this one image in their mind when they think of Africa. And it's, it's that, I'm not gonna.

[Lex P]

Lie, that's my pet peeve. When I be like, people don't even.

[Draya Nicole]

Realize St. Chills is in.

[Lex P]

Yeah, Africa. I hate when I be like when somebody says something like, oh yeah, I'm going to Africa this year.

[Draya Nicole]

Where?

[Lex P]

Okay, that's like me. Oh, I'm going to the United States, which. Oh, no, actually, not even the United States. I'm going to North America. Are you going to Canada? You going to Mexico?

[Draya Nicole]

Well, we don't. We ain't got that many places.

[Lex P]

It doesn't. But you know what I'm getting at?

[Draya Nicole]

We got. No. I mean, no, we got Puerto Rico.

[Lex P]

Well, now, that states the countries in North America is only three, right?

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah, well, it's only three, but Puerto Rico is US Territory.

[Lex P]

Yeah, it's US Territory, But I say this. You know what I realized?

[Draya Nicole]

Islands that are US Territory, too.

[Lex P]

When people say, like, when you look at the globe, the way they scaled Africa to be so small, and it's so incorrect. I didn't realize how large Africa was. Like, on the grand scale of things, it's so big. But they scaled it down for map size. Make that shit right. Make it right. Scale it properly so people can understand how big that continent truly is.

[Draya Nicole]

Is Africa number two? I know Asia is number one. The largest continent. The largest continent. I know Asia is number one. Scale it right. Yeah.

[Lex P]

I didn't know that shit was that goddamn big. Make it rough.

[Draya Nicole]

I did. I knew that, like. So Asia is number one. Africa is number two. North America is number three. We number three.

[Lex P]

Come on. Give me that bronze medal. I'll take it. Okay. I love to win something.

[Draya Nicole]

I'm mad at that. I don't know why I didn't think that.

[Lex P]

I thought we were. We are the champions, my friend. We gonna win something. We gonna win everything in the US we ain't gonna. We leaving here with something.

[Draya Nicole]

We gonna play that. But what do you think, Ty? Like, how do you. You feel about that? Like, I just feel like so many people here in the States, as far as Caucasian people, black people, all of us, like, so many people are uneducated when it comes to ra. Race and ethnicity. Yeah. I mean, even I was before I went to Howard, because I'm from Chicago. I didn't really go to school or grow up with, like, African people or. I knew Africans, but I didn't know, like, about the Caribbean. I didn't really understand, like, Europe and Asia and all that stuff. I understood it in, like, a geography sense, but, like, not about cultures that way. And it wasn't until I got to Howard where I'm seeing creme de la creme of black people from all over. I'm learning about Grenada and. And Saint Martin and all these different ethnicities within being A black person. Yeah, that's where I really learned about it. And then traveling more, that helped me kind of understand the culture. But a lot of these people just listen to anything. They don't really do research. They're not studying, so they're never going to know. And you, when you listen to propaganda on tv, like, that's going to taint your whole image and what you think in your thought process as well. So it's kind of like you have to, as parents, one have to educate your children so that they know what's true, what's their culture, where they came from, where. What the slave trade was, how people got to where they were, how that started. And then as you, as an individual, you gotta take time to understand that and educate yourself as well to do the research.

[Lex P]

When I tell y', all, when I got to college, when I got to Houston, I had met this black girl and she barely spoke English and she was German, and it blew my fucking mind. I said what I thought. She was lying. I was like. She was like, girl, what are you talking about? Like, but that's. I mean, growing up in a small town, you just. But you know, you have to take it upon yourself to really educate yourself because it. You. It will be so crazy the things that you realize that people just don't know.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah. So being from Texas and like, growing up in a family where my mom's side of my family was from Louisiana, like, I have a lot of Creole people on my granddad's side of the family, so I got cousins who are like very fair skinned, very loose, waved hair or whatever. So of course they would be like, oh, I'm Creole. Oh, I'm Creole.

[Lex P]

So.

[Draya Nicole]

But I never thought to, like, look into really what that necessarily means being Creole. And so for me, it really wasn't until I got older and then I found out that my biological dad was half Dominican. And then I'm like, well, what does that mean? And so then I started finding out about, like, Afro Latino people. And it's like, okay, these people are still black, though.

[Lex P]

They should just drop them off a little bit sooner.

[Draya Nicole]

Exactly.

[Lex P]

It took a left of mine.

[Draya Nicole]

Busted a rock. Exactly. And then even, even, like becoming best friends. Like, even me and Lynn and becoming her best friend and like, really kind of getting immersed in, like, Jamaican culture because both of her parents are from Jamaica. And just even going to Jamaica so many times and realizing it's Indian people that are in Jamaica, it's as. It's. It's Chinese people. And they were. And they were born there. Yeah. And they have the. Yes, I.

[Lex P]

Yes.

[Draya Nicole]

But they're still Chinese. They're still Indian, but they're Jamaican.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

There's a series on Hulu called Black Cake. It's really good. And it's like the girl's father was Asian, and then her mother was Trinidadian, and it talks about, like, her story growing up there. It was really good. If y' all haven't watched it, what's it called? Black Cake.

[Lex P]

I'm a wash.

[Draya Nicole]

It's really good. Yeah, I'm a watch it, too. It's just very interesting. And I think it's so far outside of what any of us can fathom, because if I'm going to be honest, I say this all the time. I feel like here in America, I don't know, sometimes when it comes to, like, us as the black community here, I be feeling like we not really as tapped in with our culture. We're very ignorant.

[Lex P]

A lot of times. I'm still. Like I said, I'm still be learning. I still be. I'm very ignorant to all this stuff because I didn't know any better. But it's upon ourselves to educate ourselves, because I'm not going to lie. You saying that stuff about, like, the Chinese people that are in Jamaica and they're Jamaican, but they're still Chinese. I probably learned that maybe like a year. Half a year and a half ago when I said I was like, what the.

[Draya Nicole]

But, you know, that's what I love, though, about, like, every time I go to Jamaica with Lynn, like, even though they might have been brought there or they might be immigrants, they're still so tapped into their culture.

[Lex P]

Yes.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah. And it's the same thing in the. Like, in. In other areas of the world. I feel like it's only here in America that like, us as black people, because even in the uk, like, when we went to London, a lot of the black people that live in London, they still be tapped into the African roots.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

It's here. Only here in America, where we don't really be knowing our ancestry and stuff. We got to do DNA tests and we gotta go do the research ourselves, and we have to find out where we're from, because in a lot of other countries, they be born into it. Even though they're not in their original country, they still know their culture.

[Lex P]

I think it's just the way we were raised, honestly, with, you know, thinking like, America is the greatest country ever and all that stuff. But I think it's a little half and half because we do have culture. American culture is a thing, especially black American culture. It's very real. I mean, no.

[Draya Nicole]

Cause they be tapping into it. Don't get me wrong. Why do you think people in the UK started rapping Lil Baby Ludicrous?

[Lex P]

We going back, Jam Master J. We going way back.

[Draya Nicole]

I mean, we were the first rappers here in America, so we definitely have culture. Don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to say that we don't, but I'm more so talking about, like, our real root, knowing where we came from. We had to. We have American culture because we had to create that. We didn't have shit else. We ain't know nothing else about ourselves, so we had to create some shit.

[Lex P]

Unless you were Cherokee.

[Draya Nicole]

Okay, somebody.

[Lex P]

Some people do you used to tell.

[Draya Nicole]

People you was Cherokee.

[Lex P]

My people was here. Okay, but black people, a lot of black. I mean, some people, we. They are American. They was here now.

[Draya Nicole]

No, you not wrong. But I'm just saying I feel like we had to create. So for sure we do have American culture. African Americans have culture. But I. I be more so talking about, like, us knowing where we came from. You didn't know where you came. I mean, I know you ended up doing your DNA, ancestry, and then that's when you found out, but you didn't know for like, what, 20 years where you were from. I didn't know about my ancestry for a very long time. And then even with me being adopted, I definitely didn't know until I really started doing the research. I'm sure you didn't know. I still don't know.

[Lex P]

I wonder if I have, like, family out there still that's looking for me. You probably could be a princess in Cameroon.

[Draya Nicole]

Even with Sierra coming on the show and telling us, like, she found out that her family is from Benin. Yeah, I'm sure that's something she didn't probably know her whole life.

[Lex P]

I bet they all got good knees out there too. Yeah, it's hereditary, Troy.

[Draya Nicole]

And Rashad actually was just out there.

[Lex P]

With Lauryn Hill, and I know she was on time for that.

[Draya Nicole]

It's time to get into topic number one. You right.

[Lex P]

You right. That's all right.

[Draya Nicole]

I be trying to have real in depth.

[Lex P]

It was.

[Draya Nicole]

Okay. Topic number one is being thick. Really all that? Does being thick or curvy come with too many problems? And as a curvy woman, are there times when you actually like to be skinny or wish that you were smaller and tone down certain body parts?

[Lex P]

I'll let you go first.

[Draya Nicole]

Me?

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

I'm not as thick as you, but.

[Lex P]

Girl, shut up.

[Draya Nicole]

However. However, you know, I. I don't necessarily. I wouldn't say it come with too many problems. If anything, I just feel like how do I know you like me for me? Or is it just because I'm fine as fuck, Like I'm too thick? Like oh my God, how do I know it's real? Like what do you like? Do you like me or do you like the cheeks?

[Lex P]

You know what?

[Draya Nicole]

I don't know.

[Lex P]

For me it's honestly like it's not about being too thick or I wish I was skinnier. You know what? The thing is, that's not all that is. It is all that but it's not because that's what people are intimidated by. But so this is the thing it's not about is being really thick, all that. And does it come with a lot? What comes with a lot is just having confidence about yourself. Because it doesn't matter if you're so thick and you so fine or if you're so skinny and patient and on my little tiny ass or if you just a thick, voluptuous big ass woman. It's confidence that makes big ass woman.

[Draya Nicole]

Is.

[Lex P]

Yes, it's a lot of big ass women. I'm a big ass woman. It's a lot of big ass women out there and I am one of them. I'm so. He's so big and tall. Whatever. She said I'm the biggest bitch. You big and tall? Yeah, I'm big and tall. So I say all that to say what? That the thing that intimidates people is your confidence. So when somebody, it doesn't matter if you got a 52 inch ass or a 2 inch ass, it doesn't matter.

[Draya Nicole]

But we specifically friends talking about being thick. Do you ever feel like because you so thick you walk in a room and everybody like damn that ass fat. Do it make you uncomfortable?

[Lex P]

It don't. Because I'll say that you get tired.

[Draya Nicole]

Of people making comments about your body.

[Lex P]

Okay, so I'll say this pre bbl when I didn't have a big, I was. I walk in the room, people got something to say about me. Anyway, like I said, it's just about your confidence and who you are. Cause people are always gonna have something to say. The skinniest I was, even now to this day I lost this weight, you know, I'm healthier now. People still be in the comments. Oh my God, Lex, your titties are growing back. Oh my God, Lex, you're getting too Small. Oh, my God, Lex, you're getting too big. I've realized people are always gonna comment about my body, no matter BBL or not, thick or not skinny. When I was 200 pounds, they was talking about me. Now I was 170. Around the BET wards, I was 170. Now I'm 175. It don't matter. So I just feel like being a woman comes with all of that. Thick or not. That's what I'm saying. So it don't matter. It don't matter. You gonna get talked about. I don't know, though.

[Draya Nicole]

Cause I feel like some people don't be getting talked about as much as others. I really just think it depends.

[Lex P]

Mm.

[Draya Nicole]

I think it depends on if people just be paying att attention. For some people, they could lose weight, gain weight. Nobody cares.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

I think it. It just depends on if people have that spotlight on you. And you do have to have confidence in yourself. But regardless of having confidence, because I feel like I'm a very confident person. But it still get annoying, people speaking on your body all the time.

[Lex P]

All the time.

[Draya Nicole]

We had did that Breakfast Club interview a few months ago, and somebody. It was like, a few people that was like, Israel pregnant. And I mean, where never been there, but facts. But, I mean, maybe I was, like, a little bloated that day. I don't know. Or maybe the way I was sitting in my posture wasn't, like, the most flattering.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

But either way, like, even if I was, which clearly I'm not, because that was like, three, four months ago. But even if I was like, let me announce it. Let me speak on that, if that's what it is. Like, I just feel like people just get way too comfortable. And then it'd be like, oh, then it's the comments about how tea your body is. And then if you be a little bloated, then people think you pregnant. Like, it's just like, please relax. Like, sometimes it gets a bit much. If you lose too much weight, then people be talking about you. Because, I mean, I saw obviously, I saw the comments and stuff, too, when you decided to lose weight and the stuff people were saying. And it's just like, why do y' all care so much what somebody else decides to do with their body?

[Lex P]

Because do you know? I mean, yes, you do know, obviously. The comments over that Santana episode about my body were insane.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

It got to the point to where somebody asked me on Twitter, they were like, oh, my God, Lex P. Are you pregnant? I said, no. And can you Please stop commenting on my body. She was like, bitch, I'm just asking because you look pregnant, ho. And then she screenshotted when I was like turning to the side, like singing with Santana and my belly was poking out a little bit. It's vodka and beans, bitch. Leave me the fuck alone. But it's like, if I'm saying no, I'm not pregnant. And even if I was pregnant, if I'm saying no, why are you cursing me out, right? But the thing that's so crazy to me is like, if we, if somebody did that to you, a lot of people would crash the fuck out. Crash out. It's like, you know what? Why can't we just stop commenting on people's bodies? Just leave, just leave. Leave us alone when it comes to our bodies. So when it comes back to the question, is being thick really all that? Yes, I love my body. It's all that for me. Every decision I have ever made with my body, surgery wise, health wise, weight loss wise, right now, today, when I look at my body, I was like, hmm, that's a black queen right there. I love it. I love the way I look. But I do things for me to make me happy. So yes, it is all that for me. It don't need to be all that for you. You know what I'm saying? Cause being thin for a lot of women is tee. Being a little thicker or a little heavier is a tee for you. Whatever you feel confident in, that should be all that thing.

[Draya Nicole]

When I think of being thick, like thick being too much, I be thinking of like the girls who you could see the cup on their booty.

[Lex P]

You talking about the ass shot?

[Draya Nicole]

The shelf booty? Yeah, ass shot girl.

[Lex P]

Yes. We can't relate to that though. We can't speak on it.

[Draya Nicole]

No, we can't. We can't. But sometimes I think people try to speak on us in a way where it's like they be trying to act.

[Lex P]

Like we the shelf ass shot booty. They do.

[Draya Nicole]

And even like sometimes I think like, and this is sidebar, but even like some with, with our faces and stuff, people be trying to act like we have just done so much. And I'll be like, excuse me.

[Lex P]

They can't believe a 36 year old queen.

[Draya Nicole]

I said this to Shay yesterday and I said this how they be acting like we look. I'm about to show it to Ty. Todd, please, come on.

[Lex P]

Oh, they do be acting like we look like Ty.

[Draya Nicole]

They be acting like me and Lex look like this. I sent this to Shade the other Day I said, this is how they be acting like me and Lacey.

[Lex P]

I'm not gonna lie. Cause I've definitely done a little one, two to the face, but it's very tea.

[Draya Nicole]

That looks crazy.

[Lex P]

My face still moves. Nothing is frozen.

[Draya Nicole]

But either way, I just feel like regardless, let people do them. I see girls all the time who I be like, you might have did a little much with the body, but also, if you have the body, no, I don't wanna know who this is.

[Lex P]

You know, that's what black women say. I do.

[Draya Nicole]

So I can stay far, far away. But I just feel like if you happy with that body and you think it look good, you think them little legs look good with that boo.

[Lex P]

Chicken fried leg.

[Draya Nicole]

That you think that chicken fried leg look good with that chicken fried ass, then do you?

[Lex P]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

Do you?

[Lex P]

I agree. I just think that people just need to let people do what they do. But I'm like, I talked about that on the episode that we lost, right? With Helen.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

I talked about things that I've done with my face. One thing about me is I don't deny anything. I don't mind talking about things because I'm honest. But one thing you can never tell me is like, face card is good.

[Draya Nicole]

Exactly.

[Lex P]

And the person that I go to that does my injections t very, very professional. Shout out to Helen at Charette Cosmetics. I'mma always shout her out to Helen. The thing is, you cannot look at my face and to convince me, like, I did too much. Because I know and I see. I know what to do. I got this. I got this. I don't need no advice. I never overdo it, because you know why. Also, I'm not surrounded by yes men. I have an injector that tells me no. I literally. I was like. Last time I went to her, it was before the Travel Queens premiere. And I was like, ooh, do I need. She was like, girl, we're going to do this. We're gonna do this. We leaving this alone. And this is it. And this is it. And get your ass up out off my chair. And then I have friends around me, like, yeah, girl, it's never. Oh, okay. Lex, you don't need to do that. No, you. Cause I'll ask y' all before I'm like, you think I need a little girl? No, you're good. So, yeah, I see myself in the mirror. But also, I'm a very expressive person. I can't do too much. I need to wiggle these eyebrows. Same. Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

I don't know, I think people just need to worry about them. But I do feel like sometimes he can get a little overboard. Like I do see people sometimes and I be like, oh, you might have went.

[Lex P]

I'm not gonna lie. I be having to. Somebody has said something about they had said something about your lips or something.

[Draya Nicole]

People always be saying something about my lips.

[Lex P]

This girl has not touched her lips and in years, first of all. But second of all, you cannot look at her face and say the lips is not t what are y' all looking at to even be like. You know what I'm saying? It be so like you are a lot of that shit just become from y' all just be. I hate to say this cause I don't like that but like y' all really just be hating. Like y' all really be like. Cause there's no way that somebody can be like, oh this is too. The lips is lipping. They look good.

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[Lex P]

Wasn'T that delicious? So good. Your bill, ladies.

[Draya Nicole]

I got it.

[Lex P]

No, I got it.

[Draya Nicole]

Seriously, I. I assisted first. Oh, don't be silly. You don't be silly.

[Lex P]

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[Draya Nicole]

Okay. Rock, paper, scissors for it.

[Lex P]

Rock, paper, scissors, shoot. No. The Wells Fargo ActiveCash credit card. Visit Wells Fargo.comActiveCash terms apply. And you know me, Dre. I would tell you I'm not Uber.

[Draya Nicole]

No, I know you would. And then, to be fair, I think we've all seen people who have gotten, like, their lips overfilled. Like, a lot of the time, they'll have, like, lumps in their lips.

[Lex P]

And they migrate.

[Draya Nicole]

Or they'll migrate, and they kind of be up here, and the lips are kind of, like, duckish or whatever. My lips don't give that.

[Lex P]

They don't duck.

[Draya Nicole]

They don't. But also, if you look back at old episodes, I say this all the time. I have always had full lips, even before I ever got lip fillers. I just think people just love to try to find a problem. I say this all the time, too. Black women are the aesthetic. We are the originals. People want to look like us. I hate the fact that, like, when people see beautiful Black women in 2025, they feel like, oh, well, you must have had X, Y, and Z done. It's no way you're just that pretty or you're just that gorgeous. Like, no. News flash. We be having good jeans surgery. Can't outwork good genetics.

[Lex P]

Ooh. Yeah, that's true.

[Draya Nicole]

And that's another topic.

[Lex P]

That's true.

[Draya Nicole]

Now, surgery cannot outwork good genetics. Some people just have good genes. If I showed y' all photos of my family, like, My mom is 75 years old. My mom does not look 75. She don't have a wrinkle in sight. And my mom has never gotten Botox. I personally get Botox because I just like to be snatched.

[Lex P]

But also, what you do, you're on 4K cameras every week. You do a lot. Like, it's a little different, but the jeans.

[Draya Nicole]

But we don't get Botox because we're wrinkled. I think it's more so for Prevention.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

Like, it's preventative measures.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

But either way, whatever. Like, my mom is in her 70s. Her and all her siblings, they look good. They don't look like they're in their 70s. My mom, my biological mom is 46. She looks like she's in her 30s. People tell me and Lex all the time, we don't look like we're in our 30s. Like, I think you can't out cheat good genetics and also just health taking care of. And I also feel like that you do to take care of your skin, your body working out. All of those things matter.

[Lex P]

And then a lot of times, a lot of y' all don't even know the difference between fillers and Botox. Y' all be like, oh, my gosh, that's too much Botox. Fillers and Botox are two completely different things.

[Draya Nicole]

They are.

[Lex P]

So somebody's like, oh, I get Botox in my forehead. Oh, she did way too much. If somebody's getting Botox in their forehead and that's all they've done to their face, you can't tell. It's just their forehead might be a little shiny and smooth. Bitch, that's literally it. Now, fillers, you can definitely overdo fillers. We know that. But if y' all can't tell the difference between Botox and fillers, shut up, girl. Shut up.

[Draya Nicole]

Cause we shouldn't even be having a conversation.

[Lex P]

Yeah. And like I said, I just think that, you know, things get a little different when you're in front of 4K cameras and you got to talk to people and be in people face. Then looking good is, like, part of your job.

[Draya Nicole]

I have a really good question for y'. All. So how do y' all feel? Both of it? Because have you ever done anything, Ty. Have you ever done both sides? I used to want implants. Do you feel like you would ever. Even though you haven't yet?

[Lex P]

I don't know. Now.

[Draya Nicole]

I don't think so. Like, I feel like I'm too far gone. But what about injectables? Maybe not like surgery, but what about, like, Botox? I would consider Botox and fillers, honestly. Okay.

[Lex P]

Okay.

[Draya Nicole]

I'm not, like, in a rush to get it because, again, I'm scared of needles. Like, I have a phobia of needles. So I'm. I'm.

[Lex P]

But I don't see anything on your face that would need it. Not that I'm.

[Draya Nicole]

Me either.

[Lex P]

Yeah, see, I was needing it. I had a little laugh line, and it was.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah.

[Lex P]

Scary up there.

[Draya Nicole]

That's How I felt too, like, I feel like when I would, like, make certain expressions, I would have, like, what.

[Lex P]

I was gonna say. You get it from your daddy.

[Draya Nicole]

Oh, my daddy. What? That's not my. That's not my real daddy.

[Lex P]

That's why I stopped my joke. Yeah, but shout out to the daddy.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah, my real dad. His skin is actually flawless.

[Lex P]

Your real daddy is funny as he.

[Draya Nicole]

Funny what he do in that video.

[Lex P]

He had with the baby.

[Draya Nicole]

Oh, with my little sister.

[Lex P]

Oh, okay.

[Draya Nicole]

Little Zenzy. And she so cute. But would y' all do. How do y' all feel when people be on the Internet and they be like, oh, the girls these days, what happened to natural beauty? The women back in the day, and then they be showing the pictures of like, the older women, like Neil Long and Sonal, Latin, etc. Etc. And they be like, remember when women. Halle Berry? They be like, remember when women was 90s fine and they didn't do X, Y and Z? Women were so beautiful back then.

[Lex P]

Aesthetics have changed, right? The way we do our hair is different, the makeup is different. Everything is different now. Because guess what? 30 years from now, they gonna be like, oh, y' all ain't 2000's fine no more. Y' all ain't. You know' cause I'm telling you, when those women came out, it was men complaining about them. Y' all not 1970s fine no more. Y' all ain't wearing them moo moos like I used to.

[Draya Nicole]

But I don't think it worked.

[Lex P]

You don't know. You was not even born.

[Draya Nicole]

But what I'm saying is it was no social media. So it wasn't like a collective community for people to like, come to and be like, oh, we all going to get into this group and we all going to say this about women and we're all going to agree. It wasn't that back in the day, a nigger from Idaho and a nigger from Texas was not conversing with each other in no goddamn group chat on the Internet.

[Lex P]

But it doesn't matter though, because it was still happening in the barbershop. All the Internet is, is the barbershop spread worldwide. Child, they were still talking. Trust me, all the Internet is. We done took the salon talk, the barbershop talk, and then we done made it public for people so they can reach other people. We are the same. Conversations are being repeated. We ain't invented the wheel. Even with poor minds. This ain't nothing new. You think that our grandmothers want to sit here and talk about they so Picky. They talk about our grandmothers. I guarantee you had a conversation. Cause Melvin done said she don't fry that chicken like his grandmother used to, or she don't be dressing up for church. Like, this is a repeated conversation, baby. We ain't.

[Draya Nicole]

I'm not saying it's not a repeated conversation, but I'm just saying I feel like it's more so targeted to the masses now. Like, barbershop talk is cool because it was like five niggas in the barbershop talking.

[Lex P]

Yeah, cool.

[Draya Nicole]

Now it's 500 in a chat. Bitches be wearing moo moos. They don't wear lingerie no more. Do you want to join? And then n be joining. And that's what's going on, literally. Did y' all see the other day, okay, so y' all know how they had the app where the women could go find out about the dude? The T app. The T app. They had the T app and the women were going to find out about the niggas that they dated. The niggas done created one for the girl, an app for them, and now they can get on the app and find out about the women. I was talking to somebody the other day, and they was like, first of all, I don't wanna be on no app where only niggas can join.

[Lex P]

Cause they gonna start doing something.

[Draya Nicole]

Exactly, exactly. Why would you even. But it's like, are we as a community and as a generation, are we really that hurt and that up where, like, want to get on the app to find out about the woman that they dating before they start dating them? Women want to get on the app to find out about the man that they dating before they start dating them. Before you actually really get to know the person. This person might have had a scorned experience. Do you really want to get on here and find out what somebody is saying about this person? I just feel like we be just so up. And I get what you saying, but I feel it was not like that 20, 30 years ago. It wasn't.

[Lex P]

I feel like everything is just a repeat.

[Draya Nicole]

You had to give that nigga a try. Try them out. Try them out. Try them out.

[Lex P]

Yeah, baby girl, won't you fuck with this?

[Draya Nicole]

You had to try that nigga out.

[Lex P]

Yeah, I do agree with that. But I. Like I said, I do think that things are just more magnified and more out in the open, but I think that history always just repeats itself now. It's a little different because of social media. Yes. But I do think that these are Just repeated conversations and repeated experiences, you know what I'm saying? But I don't know how we got on this or what's going on, but I will say it was just a good.

[Draya Nicole]

It was something that was on my spirit. I don't even know how we got on that topic either.

[Lex P]

We were talking about surgery and we.

[Draya Nicole]

Were talking about surgery and stuff. But then I also just think our generation is fucked up. I be thinking about it all the time and I just be like, shit is fucked up when it comes to dating and stuff. I see why the girls in our age group is dating 60s and 70 year old men. He on his way out the door anyways.

[Lex P]

And I also see why the women in our older generations have chosen to be single too and not having children anymore. You know, the birth rate is getting lower and lower every year amongst all races. I'm one of them. Them. Hey, same.

[Draya Nicole]

You don't think you want kids? No.

[Lex P]

I had a moment, a birth.

[Draya Nicole]

I don't want a birth for. Oh, you don't want a birth?

[Lex P]

I had a moment yesterday and I'm not going to lie to y'. All. This past month and a half has been craziness for me every day I'm waking up pretty much at like 6am doing stuff for poor minds. We have literally about 3 or 4 meetings all the time I'm doing stuff. I'm still filming Love Lex P. Now I'm creating content. I have a series going on on redoing my house that I've started just, you know, to pull in more income and you know, like I said, outside of me doing this content for my house, I really bought a house in real life. So I'm really doing stuff. So I just had a moment yesterday and I was just like, oh my fucking God, what if I had a kid? Like I had to go get my feet and my nails done. Not because it's a luxury. Cause I'm on camera. I have to have my. And I'm just like, I don't feel like it. I want to go home and I want to go to sleep. But I got to take this meeting. Then I got to come, I got to put this together. I got to make sure this is good. I got to make sure this is good. Oh, this person's coming to do some measurements. Oh, this person's coming to fit. And I'm just like, oh my God, what if I had a fucking kid right now? And imagine you got a baby daddy that don't help or a baby daddy that's Bitter or a baby or whatever's going on. That's why I said, you know what? I kind of get why career driven women just wait a little bit. Yeah, I get it. There is no way I could have had a baby on my hip yesterday. No way. Like, that's why I seriously give a shout out to the single moms out there, even if their kid is older. God forbid it was a little Lex P. Running around. Cause God damn it, I used to give my mama hell. Oh, I used to give my mama hell. And I'm just like, oh my God, I was awful as a child. I was awful. I didn't do nothing to help. Nothing. So I truly understand why the older women are opting just to travel and live. I mean, of course I do want marriage and maybe one day a family, but it's gonna be when I can afford a nanny. I can afford an in house and this and help. I need a village around me. Baby.

[Draya Nicole]

Children are like. So I understand why people be opting to not have them. Yeah, Honestly, I mean, it's nothing wrong with having. I mean, I, I get both sides. Yeah, I get both sides. I get where people be like, you know, my child motivated me. They put a different fire up under me and made me really want to go hustle and go get it. I get that too. But I also understand why people be like them kids.

[Lex P]

And I, I get both sides. I don't want to be my motivation. I want to already have it.

[Draya Nicole]

Oh, same.

[Lex P]

You know what I'm saying?

[Draya Nicole]

Same. I want to already have it. Like, I want my children to be born into a life of and I don't care, like all that people be talking about. I don't want my kids to be spoiled. I don't want them to be spoon fed. Is that not the point? Yeah, for me, that's the point. Like, I definitely want my kids to be spoiled. I don't want them to be no jerks or no. Like, I don't want them to be out here just treating people bad in any kind of way or thinking that they superior because they got money or because they live a certain lifestyle. But I don't want them to know struggle at all.

[Lex P]

You don't want to be like boosie and you don't know my struggle. So you can't feel my.

[Draya Nicole]

They never gonna have to say they got it out the mud. What mud?

[Lex P]

Remember how Drake said started from the bottom, everybody was mad at him.

[Draya Nicole]

It's never been mud. It'd been marble floors.

[Lex P]

Yeah, I had marble floors. Growing up.

[Draya Nicole]

That's what I'm saying. So, like, what are we talking about? Like, you don't know how to get it out the mud. You don't even know that.

[Lex P]

Oh, my God. I had an inside joke with my homegirl shout out to Jen. That was like, my best friend in high school. I'll take another one, too. And we used to say something like, joking, like, yeah, we gonna get out the hood. We finna get out the hood. My mom used to get so mad, but it was a joke. Like, I think people knew I was joking, but she was like, you're not from the hood. You never had to. She was like, stop saying that. It used to make her so mad. But now, like I said, now as an adult, like, I get it. If y' all mom or your dad or your parents together were busting they ass to make sure you have a good life, and you on Facebook talking about, I'm finna get it out the hood. Shut up, girl. That's what my mom used to be like, girl, shut the fuck up.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah, I mean, but I feel like that's why I've never, like, I really and truly can say, like, I don't feel like I've ever just super struggled for real financially in life, period. Like, it was points where I wasn't, like, financially stable or I wasn't rich, but I always had my parents.

[Lex P]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

Regardless of anything. Like, I think that I. I was talking to one of my friends about this the other day. I was like, finances is one of the number one reasons why friendships fall apart. And for me, I've never had that issue. I've never fell out with a friend over finances. I've never asked any of my friends for money because I always could either ask my parents or the. That I was talking to, because my daddy raised me like that too. If you dealing with this dude, then you shouldn't have to ask me for nothing. You should be able to ask him. I just feel like, I don't know, be different levels to stuff in life, but marble floors for my children, period. Because I feel like that's how not to say I grew up. Because I wouldn't say I had marble floors, but I could always ask my parents for whatever. I never had to, like, go to my friends and ask them for nothing, which I'm very grateful for, because I feel like when you don't have to have those type of relationships with your friends, you get to have real relationships and really get to, like, see people, true colors. Because it's not based off of like what people can do for you or what you could do for them. So.

[Lex P]

Shout out to the spoiled cheering out there. We ain't mad. I ain't mad.

[Draya Nicole]

I feel like that's the point.

[Lex P]

Okay, so we gonna, we gonna, we gonna save that one. Now it's time to get into the. Ow.

[Draya Nicole]

The beat.

[Lex P]

About, about, about. All right, my turn. So the bad topic today is to shave or not to is the question. Okay. So when we talk about shaving, I think we should talk about it on both sides. Okay. There's always a lot of emphasis on women's waxing, shaving, plucking, et cetera. But what about men? What about that meat? Do you like men to have a.

[Draya Nicole]

Lot of hair down there?

[Lex P]

Would you prefer no hair or a manicured area? Has too much hair ever stopped you from giving head? How do you feel about it?

[Draya Nicole]

I don't have no comment. I would like to know your thoughts.

[Lex P]

Why don't you have no comment?

[Draya Nicole]

Cause I don't. Because what I'mma say, I'm just. I would rather not say it.

[Lex P]

This is poor mind. Your boy drunk mind speaks sober thoughts. You better say it. No. Okay.

[Draya Nicole]

I dated a dude when I was younger and he had shaved all of his pubes off. And back then I thought it was a little weird because like, why would you be bald right there?

[Lex P]

Like it was just spaghetti noodle, no sauce.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah, it was strange. But as I get older I can appreciate it. But I would prefer hair. Yeah, I feel like hair is what make you manly.

[Lex P]

So my thing is I do like hair, but I don't think there's nothing wrong with a little trimage. Yeah, you know, like they got the little, the manscaped. Your manscape a little bit and clean it up. But a bald fade, Nothing there. No nothing. Them balls just hanging and you know when they get hot, they sag. I don't wanna see that. Cover em up a little bit. Put a little coat on that motherfucker. I need a little hair down there. I'm not gonna lie.

[Draya Nicole]

I don't mind it being bald, but like also. Why?

[Lex P]

Why what?

[Draya Nicole]

I don't mind it. But why, but like why are you also shaving it all the time?

[Lex P]

Well, I think sometimes, you know, it does, you know, it holds a little odor. So sometimes men don't like this, sometimes men don't like hair.

[Draya Nicole]

I feel like if it hold a little older, you just musty and people be.

[Lex P]

Do be musty.

[Draya Nicole]

People do be musty.

[Lex P]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

But if you shave it that ain't a shaving problem. You still gonna be musty because musty come from folds that fold be musty. You know, I feel like them pores be musty. It be what's. As somebody who drink chlorophyll water all the time, it be what's coming out your pores that make you musty. Because I be working out and I be sweating nothing.

[Lex P]

St.

[Draya Nicole]

I'm not going to say it, though.

[Lex P]

I'm not.

[Draya Nicole]

I don't smell as fresh as I did when I initially went into the gym.

[Lex P]

Fresh as on me is.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah, yeah. But I'm not musty.

[Lex P]

Musty.

[Draya Nicole]

Like, I can still go to the grocery store, I can still run earrings after I leave the gym. And it ain't like, damn. Well, when I say rusty, I just.

[Lex P]

Mean, like, not fresh. I don't mean funk.

[Draya Nicole]

I mean, like, when that funk hit that fan, all the people.

[Lex P]

So I'll say this as a person who. I ain't gonna lie to y'. All. My coochie is hairy.

[Draya Nicole]

She don't know crick.

[Lex P]

She don't know what. What I miss what you say? You ain't know. What'd you say?

[Draya Nicole]

It don't matter. You missed it.

[Lex P]

It ain't no point as a person. My coochie is hairy as fuck right now. I told y', all, I've been going through it as far as, like, moving. I just ain't had time to go get a wax now. But I do prefer no hair down there. It just feels better that I'm scared. That mouth, girl. That mocha don't feel right. It's very uncomfortable. I mean, it's hairier than a motherfucker down there. I said, I dot my wig miss this place was in my pants, but it's so bad down there, y'. All. I said, good googly moogly, bitch. You don't want to tame it. You know what? I'm going tomorrow. I'm going to get a wax tomorrow. It's so bad, Ty. Oh, Lord Jesus, have mercy. They thought it was the Houston Petting Zoo, bitch. They came up to me and said, is that that goddamn gorilla that went missing?

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[Lex P]

So good. Your bill ladies. I got it. No, I got it.

[Draya Nicole]

Seriously, I insist. I insisted first. Oh, don't be silly. You don't be silly.

[Lex P]

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[Draya Nicole]

Okay. Rock, paper scissors for it.

[Lex P]

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[Draya Nicole]

That monky fur.

[Lex P]

That monk.

[Draya Nicole]

I don't like that.

[Lex P]

I'm not mad. Like if a man wants to shave, I'm not mad at it because I know how I feel with a lot of hair down there. So I'm not mad at it. So if you do want to shave, cool. It don't bother me. But I do like a little hair down there. I love balls. I don't know what it is about balls. I do love balls. They're fun to play with. They're fun to juggle. If you got the right nigga. They smell so sweet. Mm. I do love balls. You know, people got their kinks that they like. I love a little ball, baby. I love to play a. I played volleyball. I love balls. Hey. Okay, so how do you feel about.

[Draya Nicole]

I don't know. I just.

[Lex P]

Balls is cool. I ball till I fall, I guess.

[Draya Nicole]

Ball till I fall. I done did it for my dog. Ball till I fall. I done did it for y'.

[Lex P]

All. Not. You know what song I was singing?

[Draya Nicole]

Hey, shout out to Birdman.

[Lex P]

No way. Yes, a hit.

[Draya Nicole]

But no for real. Like, balds.

[Lex P]

Be cool.

[Draya Nicole]

I like a little bald, too.

[Lex P]

I do like balds. Okay, but let me ask you.

[Draya Nicole]

But I don't shave that shit bald. Don't.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

Cause I'm gonna ask. Why did you have crabs?

[Lex P]

And we ain't talking about the juicy kind.

[Draya Nicole]

They probably be juicy, too. But why did you shave it bald? I don't like that. Yeah, I have questions.

[Lex P]

Okay, that's fair. Why do you shave your cootie cat?

[Draya Nicole]

I shave my coochie because that's how my man liked it.

[Lex P]

But maybe that's how his woman looks.

[Draya Nicole]

More like he like it to be fresh, like a baby.

[Lex P]

You know? But what if the woman he was dealing with before that liked it shaved and he just got in the habit of shaving it or waxing or whatever some men do.

[Draya Nicole]

What do you like? Do you like it bald or did she like it bald? Cause I don't give a fuck what she like.

[Lex P]

But I'm saying, what if he got used to it and he started to like it?

[Draya Nicole]

I just. It's something about that. That does not rub me the right way.

[Lex P]

You like that friction? You want it to rub you the right way. You want that friction. You want a little spark. I'm not gonna lie. If I had sex with a man right now that had hairy balls, it's gonna set on fire.

[Draya Nicole]

But I don't want.

[Lex P]

We fit us start a forest fire, bitch.

[Draya Nicole]

So if anything, I'm more cool with you shaving the balls.

[Lex P]

Okay, but you want something up here.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah. Like, why is it bald right there? It look like a coochie.

[Lex P]

It do be looking cool.

[Draya Nicole]

It be looking like a coochie if he put it between his leg legs. Coochie.

[Lex P]

Do be having that fupa. I don't care how in shape you are. Got that fat right there above that dick.

[Draya Nicole]

That fatty upper dick.

[Lex P]

Yes, a fooder.

[Draya Nicole]

That fooder.

[Lex P]

Be having fooders. I don't care how in shape you are. It's a Little thick right there.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah, do be having that fooder and like I feel like I need a little hair. Needs to be cover it up that.

[Lex P]

Area and that dig? Yeah. Okay. I feel y' all not mad at that.

[Draya Nicole]

Keep it clean.

[Lex P]

A little trim is okay.

[Draya Nicole]

A little trim is fine. But don't make it bald though.

[Lex P]

Yeah, you grown.

[Draya Nicole]

We grown. Yeah, let that funk get in there a little bit. Yeah, wash it before we have sex. I don't want that phone on me. Yeah, but let that phone get in there. When you going to watch your day?

[Lex P]

I'm talking about in it.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah. Talking about any.

[Lex P]

Yeah. Cause that's why I said when you think about two meatballs and that spaghetti, you want a little sauce on there. I don't know if you see two spaghetti. If you see two meatballs in a spaghetti with no sauce, it look funny. I'm not scared of a little funk. Me neither. Sometimes bring your hair sweaty. Cause I love it when it's funky.

[Draya Nicole]

I don't love it when it's funky, but I'm not afraid of it.

[Lex P]

Yeah, I won't run from it either.

[Draya Nicole]

Hey, I, I run. I ain't no runner, I ain't no track star.

[Lex P]

But I'm not going to lie like a man really don't care if it's hairy.

[Draya Nicole]

Look inside face cuz I'm the exact opposite. You like it bald? Yeah, I don't want anything down there.

[Lex P]

Nothing?

[Draya Nicole]

Nothing. Because one, the hair is getting your mouth like in your teeth and stuff. Especially if you sucking balls. You don't ever get to suck a little ball. It do get in my mouth. Yeah, I don't like that. And then like you said it holds odor. And then it just looks unkempt. I just like a nice little.

[Lex P]

She like that. And she the one that they dated.

[Draya Nicole]

I would be the girl before the totem.

[Lex P]

Go ahead and say that thing I told you. Some women really prefer that.

[Draya Nicole]

They say some niggas like to shave it because it make it look bigger. I was. That's gonna be my last thing to say.

[Lex P]

I have never heard that.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah, that's what they say. That's why some dudes like. I should have probably said that first. I just thought about it just.

[Lex P]

Cause it look bigger, baby. It don't feel big. It's still that stuff. Same little meat you had before. Oh no. Oh so it part the part like the rag add a little extra inch right there. Oh see, get that bush out the way. It can get more in there.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah, that little Oscar Maya man didn't didn't Master P have a song called Oscar Maya?

[Lex P]

I. No, I got that Fire. Who said that? I got that.

[Draya Nicole]

No, that was juvenile.

[Lex P]

If you want that Oscar.

[Draya Nicole]

If you want that Oscar Maya.

[Lex P]

Well, let us know how y' all feel about that. That little weenie. Oh, look, I need some weenie.

[Draya Nicole]

Excuse me.

[Lex P]

It's been a long time.

[Draya Nicole]

It been a long time. I haven't had sex in a long time either, but I am.

[Lex P]

I know you was on vacation busting that thing over.

[Draya Nicole]

I sure was. Twerking and curing.

[Lex P]

Damn it. Who done called me? I ain't gonna lie, though.

[Draya Nicole]

My little sabbatical may be coming to an end. So there's that.

[Lex P]

Ty, what we drinking today?

[Draya Nicole]

Okay, you got us lit? Yeah. You know, that's my favorite part. So this one we're gonna call the 30 somethings. Because it's my birthday. It's Virgo season, so that means that standards are high and so are the cocktails. This one has some Campari. There's a little bit of bitterness. That's gonna give us some edge. We have some peach schnapps and pine berry syrup for some sweetness. We have a little bit of lemon for the zest. And then we have a sparkling for the celebration hun. So all together then we have some garnish of sliced strawberries and fresh peaches inside. And yeah, it kind of gives us. It's giving grown woman. All right. And this is the 30 somethings. So cheers, y'. All. Cheers.

[Lex P]

Couldn't get my peach out.

[Draya Nicole]

That was delicious. Thank you, Ty.

[Lex P]

Thank you, Ty. That was tasty. So now it's time to get into.

[Draya Nicole]

Can I have another shot? Absolutely.

[Lex P]

The bop, the bop.

[Draya Nicole]

Hey, the bop.

[Lex P]

Ow. About start.

[Draya Nicole]

Really cutting up today. I'm just having a good time. It's time to get into the bow.

[Lex P]

A bow. The bow, a bow.

[Draya Nicole]

The bow, a bow. Bow, bow, bow, bow, bow. All right. So what is your bop, Lex?

[Lex P]

My bop is actually an old school jam today because honestly, I turned it on in the car on the way here and I was like, wow. Honestly, it's going viral right now because Travis Scott redid it. But I was like, let me listen to the original Bad Boys by Shine featuring Barryton. He ate that up, baby. Shine. Yeah. She tried to hold it in, man.

[Draya Nicole]

Shine. No.

[Lex P]

Oh, my God.

[Draya Nicole]

So when I was in Jamaica a few months ago, I was listening to Bonnie and Cheyne. And that's my fucking song, too. On the telephone she heard my voice Told me to pick her up in my Rolls Royce, okay?

[Lex P]

I'm telling you, they need to make another. I know. Shine don't do that no more. Cause he's a changed man.

[Draya Nicole]

He's a politician.

[Lex P]

He's a politician now. But that man been fine.

[Draya Nicole]

He been fine. He looks like Obama now.

[Lex P]

Show him something. That Shine. That's all right. That's all right.

[Draya Nicole]

That's what Della Reese said on Harlem nights. She said, I got a girl pussy so good, you throw it up. It's like sunshine.

[Lex P]

Oh, my God. Did that.

[Draya Nicole]

Excuse me.

[Lex P]

I wasn't even born yet Again. I love people whose voice is so unique. Cheyne has such a unique voice. Classic record. I mean, that bass, we getting closer.

[Draya Nicole]

My player days is over.

[Lex P]

That's my song. That's the bass. And that hoe was bumping so hard. Bitch, I started swinging that motherfucker. Whoa.

[Draya Nicole]

Whoa.

[Lex P]

Hey. That hoe is too hard. So, yeah, that's my bop of the week, Shine. Bad boys.

[Draya Nicole]

That's a bop.

[Lex P]

He did his big one. What's your bop, Drea?

[Draya Nicole]

Burna Boy Love.

[Lex P]

Ooh. Shout out to Burna.

[Draya Nicole]

So Burna Boy got this new song called Love. And, you know, I be in my Afro Beats bag sometimes. And I really like this song. I feel like it's like a really feel good summer song. If you're going on a vacation with your boo. It's perfect for a little vibe. A little dinner vibe, a little getting ready vibe. I love it. I think it's a great song. I don't know, Lex. How you feel? What you about to do now that you single again? Are you about to tap back in a Nigerian pool?

[Lex P]

You know, I'm not going to lie. Like, I don't know what I want to do. Because, honestly, I've really been taking this time to really just chill and heal. And I'm not gonna lie to y'. All. My DMs have been flooded, and the options aren't bad. I'm not, you know, I don't know what I want to do, but I know what I want. I want to get married. So if you're not on that type of time and you're not giving me that, all y' all can stay away from me. But I'm really enjoying my peace right now. So, yeah, I'm not doing anything. I'm not looking for anything for the first time in a long time. Cause usually I be out in the prowl and, like, I be looking for it. I think I'm just in such a peaceful place right now. And it feels good. Like, I lay my Head down every night. Like, oh, my God. I'm in my house. And I'm just so consumed by that. I'm so consumed with the way poor minds is going and, you know, things with love. Let's p. I'm just so consumed with work and enjoying my circle and my people around me. I don't. I hope a man can come along that can find his way in my life and fit in. Get in where you fit in or not. But I'm happy, so I don't know.

[Draya Nicole]

Mm.

[Lex P]

I don't know. I'm not. I might dip back into it. I still can hit that hoe. Everybody go to Hot Breakfast. I can still shy your hoe ass, nigga. Mm. Yeah. What about you?

[Draya Nicole]

I feel like my husband is on the way same. So I just be being patient. Cause I really do feel like he on the way. Cause, like, and this is why I say that I've been passing all of these tests with flying colors. Everybody, any. Anybody that I used to talk to that you could think of has popped back up in my life in the past three, four months. And I be carving all them niggas.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

Cause I'm not interested. And it's like, you had your shot. It's like. I mean. But younger me would have been like, oh, we could probably go on a trip. Or, oh, I'm sure he'll probably buy me some stuff. Or we'll go on a few dates and it'll be fun. Like, something to occupy my time. I really been cool with not occupying my time and just spending time with myself.

[Lex P]

Right.

[Draya Nicole]

And waiting. Cause I'd rather delayed gratification for, like, long time. Sustainability.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

Like, that's what I want. I want a husband. So I've been passing my test with flying colors. Like, it been so many. Like, if I. Y' all don't even know. Like, it's just been so many guys that I used to talk to. They have just been popping back up in my life over the past few months. And I just been like, yeah. Anyways.

[Lex P]

She said, you know, you got to really be ready for the next step, and you really got to let things go.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah, I'm not. I'm not worried about it. I just feel like it's on the way. And I feel like I've been having a lot of people in my DMs, too. Like, my DMs be kind of flooded, too, but I just don't be interested in any of those people. Like, are you trying to get married?

[Lex P]

Yeah. Are you trying to have kids type of time I'm on. Like I said, the people in my.

[Draya Nicole]

Leave me alone.

[Lex P]

It's been some like, good potential. Like, okay, I'm not mad at this, but I'm like, but do you want to get married? Cuz if you're not looking for a wife and looking to seriously date, we can just skip all this last night.

[Draya Nicole]

I don't wanna go on a few dates. And then you end up telling me.

[Lex P]

Well, I was just, you know, trying.

[Draya Nicole]

To see what's up with you.

[Lex P]

I didn't know I was gonna fall in love. Your goal should have been to fall in love. Yeah, over escargot and a little sangria.

[Draya Nicole]

Bitch, as soon as a nigga look at me, he should know he's gonna fall in love. If you don't know that, then you not my kind. I be wanting to fall deeply in love on the first date and then subtract as we go.

[Lex P]

Truly, I don't wanna subtract her. I love, I wanna add.

[Draya Nicole]

But I'm just saying, like, I. As I get, the older that I get, I realize I've always been delusional. I'm really a true lover girl.

[Lex P]

I'm glad you finally came onto the dark side.

[Draya Nicole]

But if you really think about it, I have always been. I'm delusional. I feel like delusion is the first step of being a real lover. It is, but I think you delusional. You be feeling like I'm so like.

[Lex P]

It was like. But I think that's what I like to hear. Cause I know you're a good woman and I knew you had it in you.

[Draya Nicole]

Bitch, I always been a good woman.

[Lex P]

I know, but what I'm.

[Draya Nicole]

What do you mean I had it in you?

[Lex P]

No, what I'm saying is you were just so. It would take you so much and I'm just like, you know what? Fall in love.

[Draya Nicole]

If it work out.

[Lex P]

If it don't, it don't work.

[Draya Nicole]

You know why it would take me so much? Because everybody that I dated was not the one. But what I'm saying, being a lover.

[Lex P]

Girl, you gonna fall in love.

[Draya Nicole]

I feel like. But you still have to have like, you still have to have guards up though. You still have to have guards up. You could be a little girl, but you can still have guards up. Because that's gonna stop you from falling for the wrong all the time. Like, I feel like sometimes people just be falling and falling and it be like, bitch, you just keep falling and who gonna catch your ass?

[Lex P]

Nobody. That's what Being a lover girl is.

[Draya Nicole]

Are you taking that risk and you.

[Lex P]

Gonna fall and you're gonna hurt yourself, you're gonna break a leg, you gonna scab me knee, you gonna break your arm, but you get back up and you keep trying. That's what.

[Draya Nicole]

Being a lover girl, respectfully, I would never be that stupid.

[Lex P]

Well, I'm not saying. But it's not stupid. Some people just everybody. No, people love differently.

[Draya Nicole]

No, I think that's dumb. You're falling for people and they're not giving you signs that they want the same thing that you want. Or they're not giving you reassurance or making you feel like it's.

[Lex P]

That's not what we talking about.

[Draya Nicole]

But it is. Cuz I feel like the way you should. You can meet somebody and be like, oh, I'm head over heels. That's why I said I subtract as I go, cuz I will meet you and be head over heels for you. Then as you start to show me who you are, we're going to subtract and subtract. And then it's like, you know what? Actually, I think that quote, unquote, lover girls, they be falling and then a nigga will show them who they are and they still stay in love and be like, you know what? I'm gonna give it another shot. I'm gonna give it another shot. I'm gonna give it another shot. And it's like, no, he already been showing you and you should have been subtracted.

[Lex P]

No, I agree with that. But what I will say is, like, sometimes, you know, we know that men will put on that job interview and their best person, but what I say is, even if they do find out the first time and they leave the first time, that shit will hurt you. But you don't let it hurt you to the point to where you're not gonna try again. That's what I mean.

[Draya Nicole]

So don't be trying again.

[Lex P]

Some women don't. But what I'm.

[Draya Nicole]

But we talk about us.

[Lex P]

No, but that's what I'm saying. Whether you leave on the first time or whether you leave on the sixth time, it don't matter. But you still keep trying. A lot of people out here have given up on love, right?

[Draya Nicole]

And that's what I'm saying. I don't feel like I've ever been that person. I just be cautious. Like, I be like, when somebody show me who they are, I'm going to take notes and I'm going to move accordingly. I think you stupid as fuck. Respectfully the lover girl, whatever you want to call it, if you don't move accordingly. When people show you who they are and just keep being like, well, I'm a lover. I just be falling in love and I just love to love. And I love people. You soupy because they keep showing you and you keep falling for it. It's okay to like somebody. I feel like I fall head over heels for people on the first link alike.

[Lex P]

I do.

[Draya Nicole]

Cause I do. And you laughing. Cause you know, like, I be meeting people and I just like, you cannot tell me when I meet a nigga, I love him down if I like him. But as soon as something ain't right, it ain't right. And that's how I feel like I avoid further heartbreak. I think people be avoiding the signs early on and then later down the line they get their heart broke and, well, I was just a lover girl, but it's like, no, you was avoiding the signs. You know, I don't know. Yeah, I just be feeling like it do be being. I hear you, but I also feel like it do be being stupid.

[Lex P]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What we on now? Did we go to the bop yet? We already did the bop. We sure did. Now we're getting into the pour your heart out segment of the week. If you want your email answered on the call on the call on the show, make sure you email [e-mail]. if you're a Patreon member, make sure you put that in the headline and we gonna double check it so you can skip the line and get your question answered on the show. All right, let's see what we got today. It says, hey, Lexandra. I have been watching you guys for a while. Thank you for all the laughs and life advice. I am currently engaged and set to get married next year. One of my bridesmaids is my best friend. She was in a relationship and she gained a lot of weight over the years. She is always complaining about how she looks pregnant in her pictures. I want all of my bridesmaids. I want all of my bridesmaids to look good and comfortable, especially since they will be wearing satin dresses. And we know you got to have the tee for the satin dress. Chap. Uh oh, I lost my place. You gotta have the satin dress. And girdles do not mix. Oh, you can't wear girdles with satin. How can I advise her to lose weight for my wedding without coming across as mean or insensitive? If she doesn't lose weight, should I exclude her from my wedding party. Not to be vain or anything, but if the rest of the party are all of similar size, I don't want my pictures to look off and I don't want to hear her complaining about her weight during the wedding events.

[Draya Nicole]

Why? I don't it's very weird to me that people are always concerned about seeming mean.

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[Lex P]

So good. Your bill ladies.

[Draya Nicole]

I got it.

[Lex P]

No, I got it.

[Draya Nicole]

Seriously, I insist. I'm going to be silly. You don't be silly.

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[Draya Nicole]

Okay, Rock paper scissors for it.

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[Draya Nicole]

Cuz just be honest. And I think if you get to a point to where you're confident in the things that you say and your decision making process, you're not going to feel like people are going to take it as mean because you could be truthful and not be mean. I'm 100 tell people how you feel.

[Lex P]

Because it's not about what you say, it's how you say it.

[Draya Nicole]

I do think it's about how you say it, but I also just feel like people be so afraid to like hurt people's feelings. Like sometimes the things that you're gonna say, it doesn't matter how you say it. To be honest, sometimes it don't really even matter how you say it. If somebody is hearing something that they don't want to hear, it's going to hurt their feelings. You have to be okay with being the honest person that you are. If somebody asks you some sheet and you like, okay, this is how I feel about it. You ask me my opinion, this is how I feel. I'm telling you how I feel. Even if I try to say it in the lightest, sincerest, calming, sweetest way that I can say it, if you don't like the message that I'm giving you, it's still going to hurt your feelings because you're not ready to receive that.

[Lex P]

That's, that's, that's a word I'm not mad at that.

[Draya Nicole]

That's how I feel in general about myself and a lot of people in general. Like I feel like you could tell people stuff and people will take it the wrong way or they'll feeling their feelings will be hurt because they not ready to receive that. They take it as an attack or they feel like they have to defend themselves. Nobody even talking about you are trying to make it an attack on you. Especially if you ask me a question, I'm telling you how I feel about it. I feel like you have to just be real. You have to be real. You have to tell people your honest opinions and either they're gonna receive it or they not. You can't be afraid to do that. And if you are, just don't tell them. Be like, actually I don't have no opinion.

[Lex P]

And also I think with the situation, talk to her, say, look friend, I know you be complaining about your weight, this is how the dress is gonna look, pictures are getting posted, it don't matter what angle, what. So I'm letting you know right now, just say that straight up. It ain't no edit Me out. It ain't. No, don't post this. I don't look good. So make sure you look how you want to look on my wedding today. Cause at the end of the day, this is about me and not about you. So I just think I agree with what Draya said. You have to tell her how you feel. I think that you can't force nobody to lose weight. Cause I don't even think it's about the weight thing. I think it maybe has to do with her confidence. Cause let me tell you something. If you don't have confidence, you're not gonna feel good at £200 and you're not gonna feel good at 150. You have to love yourself. So I think you need to have a conversation with her. Cause at the end of the day, you need to let her know the pictures are getting posted, hon. Now, if she's like, you know what? I'm fine with this size. I feel good. I think it's more so because the way it was giving it was worded a little bit. It sounds like you kind of have a problem with her weight, too, because she's like, if she doesn't lose weight, should I exclude her? Exclude her from my wedding party? Okay, what if she doesn't lose weight but she feels fine? And you posting the pictures, I think you have more of a problem with it than you're admitting to. A little bit. Just from the way things were worded. Just a little bit. So I think you need to ask yourself a question as well. You know what I'm saying? I don't know.

[Draya Nicole]

Like I said, just be honest about your feelings and how you feel. And you can try to say it in as delicate of a way as you can, but I would just be honest.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

And if she don't receive.

[Lex P]

Yeah, wait, it's tricky.

[Draya Nicole]

It is. But I feel like if she don't receive it well, then after that, then you'll know how to move forward.

[Lex P]

Yeah, I agree.

[Draya Nicole]

And it's gonna say it in a nice way, but, yeah, it's also your wedding. So at the end of the day, if she have an attitude or be weird, like, just don't put her in a wedding. I just be feeling like I don't be the best person to ask for advice. Cuz I really be feeling like everybody could go.

[Lex P]

Goodbye. All right.

[Draya Nicole]

Hi, ladies. K here. I love the podcast down. Y' all are really like my aunties. For real. For real. With all the good gems, y' all drop every show. So I have a Dilemma. I'm a fun to midsize 28 year old woman dealing with a much older man. And I used to pull all the tricks out my bag when it came to positions. But y' all my check me.

[Lex P]

What?

[Draya Nicole]

But y' all my check me light been popping on lately when it comes to riding him. Although he hasn't been complaining. He does suggest I stay on top longer. Although it's tiring. Now we both got bellies. So what tips do y' all suggest to keep things fun and less tiring?

[Lex P]

Well, I'm not fun sized. I feel like you a fun size in shape girly.

[Draya Nicole]

Mm.

[Lex P]

I ain't got nothing for I ain't fun size. I can walk, I can walk some miles now, but I ain't doing all that now. My knees don't work. My check knee engine like bent.

[Draya Nicole]

Well I feel like, I don't know, like if your knees is not really working then I feel like you have to like learn how to ride deek and like more so use your knee. Like use your knees than your feet. So like instead of like hopping with your feet, you got to like be on your knees and kind of like straddle.

[Lex P]

Cuz that don't. It don't.

[Draya Nicole]

It's not going to put pressure on your knees.

[Lex P]

Okay. But you know what, I'm not going.

[Draya Nicole]

To lie because you're going to be already in the bed. The bed is padded. Your knees are going to be on the bed and you're just more so going to be like riding and straddling versus being like on your feet. You're hopping.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

And it's like putting pressure on your legs which I feel like more. Most men prefer that.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

When you using the knees and you're on your feet.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

Hopping. But I feel like. Yeah. Like learn how to use your knees. And then it's also other positions you could do. Like you could do reverse cowgirl where with that you don't even gotta use your feet. You could really just kind of you rocking rock.

[Lex P]

Yeah.

[Draya Nicole]

Back and forth. Yeah.

[Lex P]

And that's somebody with a bad knee though. Cause I do this knee so motherfucking bad bitch. What you can do if you still want to get up on the tippy toes is he got to have a sturdy headboard though. So what I do is I get on my tippy toes so when I go all the way down I'm not going super low. Cause I'm on my tippy toes so I'm not like if you're flat footed you're obviously Gonna go lower, but you gotta stay up on your tippy toes. And you grab that headboard and use it for a little support. That. Now, if you still wanna get up on your tippy toes, that works. And my knee don't ever hurt in the morning after that one, so that's just a little suggestion. But you got to. He got to have a strong headboard, though. Not that IKEA shit. Bitch, he need that good. Ashley Furniture, Z Gallery Restoration Hardware, backboard. You know what I'm saying? So. And honestly, tell him to put in some work, too. Cause you talking about both y' all bellies big. It sound like he need to get to work, too. Queen. All right. That's all right. All right, Dre, what else we got?

[Draya Nicole]

I think that's it. So. Of course, shop muse, beautycollection.com. make sure you get your lip glosses, lip liners, matte liquid lipsticks, lip plumper. We also have the jelly blushes, eye mascara, and eyeliner.

[Lex P]

You got a whole.

[Draya Nicole]

Yeah, we, too. We have a lot of stuff.

[Lex P]

I feel like you have a whole beat.

[Draya Nicole]

Not quite, because we don't have, like, foundation, concealer, blush, all that stuff yet.

[Lex P]

A vacation beat. You got a vacation.

[Draya Nicole]

Brow products. It's coming, though. Yeah, we're expanding.

[Lex P]

Yeah. Love that. Shout out to me as Beauty Parad. And yeah, y'. All. Make sure y' all just go follow me on Facebook. It's lex P. Snapchat, lexp05. Love Lex P. Every Monday, 10am and, yeah, shout out to the Taylor Port family, and we'll see y' all next week. Hi. Bye.

[Draya Nicole]

Something in this liquor.

[Lex P]

The air is getting thicker I can't help but stare.

[Draya Nicole]

At you yeah, girl, what did you do to me?

[Lex P]

What did you slip up in my cup, girl?

[Draya Nicole]

Cause I want you oh, yeah I had a little bit too much, girl so come over here.

[Lex P]

There'S something in this liquor the air is getting thicker All I want is you All I want is you Something in this liquor.

[Draya Nicole]

I'm looking at your figure oh, I just wanna see you strip right now Baby, let me help you work it out.

[Lex P]

Girl, you look so good I.

[Draya Nicole]

Just wanna get right to it Gonna.

[Lex P]

Get right to it I could beat.

[Draya Nicole]

It up like a real nigga should.

[Lex P]

Ooh, baby, when we do it whoa the air is getting thicker All I want is you All I want is you.

[Draya Nicole]

Drink and fuck Drink, drink, drink and drink and drink Drink and and.

[Lex P]

Drink Drink and drink and drink, drink and there's something in that goddamn liquor.

[Draya Nicole]

Girl, the air is getting thicker the air getting thicker than me thicker Sarah.

[Lex P]

Choose.

[Draya Nicole]

Girl what did you do girl what did you do what did you slip up in my cup girl?

[Lex P]

Cause I was.

[Draya Nicole]

I done had a little bit too much girl so come.

[Lex P]

Over here drinking drink drinking drinking drink drinking All I want to do is drink it drink drink All I want to do is all I want to do is drink and fuck you know it's been a long time that coochie hairy But I can get it right for you if you want to drink and call me all I want it all right well I'll take the mic from me I know.

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[Draya Nicole]

This is an I Heart Podcast.