"Being Led By The Spirit Made Easy" - Rev. Harpreet Khosa - Jun. 5. 2024

Summary

Podcast Episode Summary: “Being Led By The Spirit Made Easy”

Podcast: Promise of Life Church Podcasts
Episode Date: July 19, 2024
Speaker: Rev. Harpreet Khosa (with contributions from Pastor Nancy and Pastor Kirk)
Main Theme:
This episode centers on demystifying the process of being led by the Holy Spirit, making it approachable and practical for every believer. It emphasizes the necessity of renewing one’s mind with the Word of God in order to clearly discern and follow divine guidance, showing that spiritual leading is easy—if one’s thoughts and attitudes are aligned with God’s truth.

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Main Discussion Points and Insights

1. God’s Leading Is for Our Benefit

• Isaiah 48:17 is introduced as a foundation: God is committed to teaching and leading His people for their good.
• Pastor Kirk highlights (00:30): “The leading of the Holy Spirit is critical for us because we don't know what is good for us. …God says, I am the one who leads you.”
• The message: There are benefits—both for ourselves and for those connected to us—when we follow God's leading, but it’s “our responsibility to be led by His Spirit” (01:10).

2. Church as a Learning Ground

• The church is compared to a school or university—spiritual growth requires continual “homework” and self-assessment (02:06).
• Pastor Nancy (02:13): “Am I doing the way he's teaching or not? Am I doing the way Lord says or not? If I'm not, I endeavor to change right away so that I can benefit from the Word. Because word always profit us.”

3. The Barrier of the Unrenewed Mind

• The greatest obstacle to being led by the Spirit is not external circumstances or a lack of desire, but rather an "unrenewed mind"—a mindset not aligned with God’s Word (04:09).
• Romans 8:5 (The Passion Translation) is quoted, drawing a distinction between living by flesh (self-serving, carnal thinking) and living by the impulses of the Holy Spirit (spiritual realities).
• Pastor Kirk (05:29): “The mind which doesn't think the way God thinks.… The mind which goes the other direction, which is not submissive to the Word of God or God himself. So that's called unrenewed mind.”

4. Renewal of Mind as a Daily Practice

• Christians can still be carnal after new birth (06:18). The process of thinking like God does requires daily and consistent effort—just like combing one’s hair every morning (08:24).
• Notable quote, Pastor Nancy (09:19): “If you are not doing that, you are not being led by the Spirit.”

5. Private Devotion over ‘Slogans’

• The episode debunks the practice of repeating Christian slogans without living the lifestyle behind them (09:32).
• Pastor Kirk (09:50): “What you are doing in private life, tell me. I'll tell you what you will do in life or not.”

6. The Necessity of Admitting and Addressing Wrong Thinking

• Many are hampered by their refusal to admit their thoughts and attitudes need change (11:32).
• Humility, as described, means being willing to take responsibility—even if not “wrong” per se—to maintain peace (11:46).

7. Birthright of Guidance—and Our Responsibility

• Every believer has the “birthright” to be led by God’s Spirit (14:33), but acting on this requires a renewed mind.
• Mind stands between God’s voice and our actions; unless aligned, even clear guidance will not profit us (15:05).

8. Bondage Is to the Unrenewed Mind, Not to the Devil

• Memorable teaching (15:20):
  • Pastor Nancy quotes Brother Hagin: “Any Christian who is in a bondage is in a bondage to unrenewed mind, not to the devil.”
  • Reiterated by Pastor Kirk (15:32): “You are free…but he said you…are not bondage to the devil…you are bondage to unrenewed mind.”

9. Washing the Mind with the Word

• Renewing the mind is ONLY done by the Word, not by prayer alone (16:24).
• Practical: Don’t substitute praying in tongues for regular Bible intake (16:42).

10. The Dangers and Cost of Wrong Thinking: Testimony

• Pastor Nancy shares the story of a mighty Indian apostle who missed God’s specific instruction due to worrying about people’s opinions, resulting in tragedy (20:01–26:15).
  • God told him to buy a new Mercedes; he bought a used one instead, fearing others’ judgment.
  • As a result, his daughter was killed in an accident that the new car’s features could have prevented.
  • Lesson: “His unrenewed mind cost the life of his daughter” (26:10).

11. Practical Application—Honoring God’s House

• Treating the church building with respect is used as a tangible example of renewing our thinking to God’s values (27:17–30:47).
• We must align how we treat God's house (and His things) with how He sees and values them.

12. Seeking God, Not Human Validation

• When unsure, avoid rushing to seek others’ input—especially those whose minds may not be renewed (32:00).
• Paul’s example: After hearing from God, he didn’t “immediately confer with flesh and blood” (Galatians 1:16, 33:13).
  • Let God’s communication become “solid in you”; don’t be moved in haste (35:08).
  • There’s a difference between consulting and declaring. Paul waited until he was sure, then declared his revelation to others (39:00).

13. The Weapon of a Renewed Mind

• Pastor Nancy: “Your mind being renewed is your weapon. Unrenewed mind is a minus in us, it’s a loss for us.” (46:15)
• E.W. Kenyon quotes:
  • “As your minds are renewed, the devil is no longer a problem to you.” (44:06)
  • “Renewing our mind and exercising our faith makes us intelligent victors.” (45:09)

14. Summary Instructions for Being Led by the Spirit Made Easy

• Renew your mind DAILY with the Word of God.
• Don’t rely on slogans or mere prayer without the Word.
• Humbly evaluate and adjust your thinking, admit when it’s wrong.
• Avoid rushing to get others' advice before God’s direction is solid in you.
• Treat God’s house—and all things connected to Him—with honor.
• Make space and time for the impulses of the Holy Spirit by quieting distractions.
• Combine reading the Word and praying in the Spirit.
• Remember: “Being led by the Spirit is easy…for those who are continually renewing their mind.” (13:29)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Need for a Renewed Mind:

  • “The mind which doesn't think the way God thinks… that's called unrenewed mind.” (Pastor Kirk, 05:29)
  • “Any Christian who is in a bondage is in a bondage to unrenewed mind, not to the devil.” (Brother Hagin quote, 15:20)
  • “Renewing our mind and exercising our faith makes us intelligent victors.” (E.W. Kenyon, 45:09)

• On the Dangers of Wrong Thinking:

  • “[The Indian apostle] didn’t think right in that… But it doesn't matter who you are, you are going through a same process of renewing your mind.” (Pastor Nancy, 22:33)
  • “His unrenewed mind cost the life of his daughter.” (26:10)

• On Guidance and Consulting Others:

  • “When I heard from God, I didn't go to… apostles who were before me… I went alone… to inquire more of God, to get it more solid in him.” (Pastor Kirk on Paul, 34:55)
  • “The most wrong thing you can do is… go to another young person and say, oh, what do you think? …To follow God’s leading, you have to understand that it is coming from God.” (36:05)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Foundational Scripture & Introduction – 00:00–02:24
• Barrier of the Unrenewed Mind – 04:09–07:30
• Daily Mind Renewal Illustrations – 08:24–09:19
• Difference Between Slogans and Genuine Private Devotion – 09:32–10:10
• Confronting Wrong Thinking and Honesty – 11:32–12:14
• Every Believer’s Birthright to Be Led – 14:33–15:07
• Bondage to the Unrenewed Mind, Not the Devil – 15:20–16:05
• Necessity of the Word for Mind Renewal – 16:24–17:39
• Testimony of the Indian Apostle – 20:01–26:15
• Practical Application: Honoring God’s House – 27:17–30:47
• Seeking God First Before Human Counsel – 32:00–39:53
• Quotes from Kenyon & Takeaways on Renewed Mind as Victory – 44:00–45:13
• Closing Prayers and Blessing – 46:21–End

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Conclusion

The episode compellingly argues that being led by the Spirit is accessible, practical, and intended for every Christian, provided they commit to the continuous renewal of their mind through God’s Word. Daily devotion, honest self-reflection, and a commitment to God’s perspective—rather than people’s opinions—are the building blocks for clear spiritual direction and victorious Christian living.

“As your minds are renewed, the devil is no longer a problem to you.” – E.W. Kenyon (44:06)

Transcript

[Pastor Kirk]

Isaiah 48:17 says that this is what.

[Pastor Nancy]

The Lord says, your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel.

[Pastor Kirk]

I am the Lord your God, who teaches you what is good for you and leads you along the paths you should follow.

[Congregation Member]

Hallelujah.

[Pastor Nancy]

He is the one who teaches you what is good. He's the one who leads you what is good and what you should follow.

[Pastor Kirk]

So leading of the Holy Spirit is critical for us because we don't know.

[Pastor Nancy]

What is good for us.

[Pastor Kirk]

We certain times we pick and choose what we see, what we think according to our natural mind, is it good or not?

[Pastor Nancy]

Is it beneficial or not?

[Pastor Kirk]

We go according to that.

[Pastor Nancy]

But God says, I am the one who leads you.

[Pastor Kirk]

I am the one who will guide you. I'm the one who has picked up everything for you. And if you follow me, I'll show.

[Pastor Nancy]

You what is good and you should follow.

[Congregation Member]

Hallelujah.

[Pastor Nancy]

There are always benefits connected to his leading. There are always benefits. And it is our responsibility to be.

[Pastor Kirk]

Led by his Spirit, to be led, to follow and to learn how he is leading us. Because there are benefits for our lives.

[Pastor Nancy]

And there are benefits connected to our lives, the people who are connected to our lives.

[Pastor Kirk]

So we have been teaching here.

[Pastor Nancy]

Pastor Kirk has been very transparent about the stories he has been sharing from few weeks. How he missed, how he hit the nail, how he again missed, how he has done. Like he has been very transparent.

[Pastor Kirk]

We should make.

[Pastor Nancy]

That's why I'm saying, like we people should be here.

[Pastor Kirk]

If people are not here, they should.

[Pastor Nancy]

Be at least listening that what he's.

[Pastor Kirk]

Teaching himself, he's teaching those little, little.

[Pastor Nancy]

Details where he missed and where he was perfectly done that it would help us to follow what he missed, we shouldn't miss.

[Pastor Kirk]

What he did that he missed, we shouldn't do.

[Pastor Nancy]

Why he missed.

[Pastor Kirk]

So it is our church is passion.

[Pastor Nancy]

NC always says church is like a university or a school.

[Pastor Kirk]

There's always a homework.

[Pastor Nancy]

When you go out of here means.

[Pastor Kirk]

When you listen, you always judge like.

[Pastor Nancy]

Am I doing this or not?

[Pastor Kirk]

Am I doing the way he's teaching or not? Am I doing the way Lord says or not? If I'm not, I endeavor to change.

[Pastor Nancy]

Right away so that I can benefit from the Word. Because word always profit us.

[Pastor Kirk]

God is into our profit. God wants us to benefit and profit from in our lives, but only when.

[Pastor Nancy]

We tweak, when we change because we are not perfect.

[Pastor Kirk]

If you are thinking you are perfect.

[Pastor Nancy]

Oh, you are further than perfection.

[Pastor Kirk]

Right?

[Pastor Nancy]

Because we are not.

[Pastor Kirk]

So he said, I'm the one who leads you. I'M the one who guides you. It's for your benefit if you are led. If you. If it's in your benefit, it will profit you if you follow me.

[Pastor Nancy]

What I'm trying to tell you.

[Pastor Kirk]

So.

[Pastor Nancy]

I'll tell you what I feel.

[Pastor Kirk]

The hardest thing or the number, not number one.

[Pastor Nancy]

The main thing that has hurt me.

[Pastor Kirk]

Also few times or few people I.

[Pastor Nancy]

Know closely that has hurt them.

[Pastor Kirk]

Not following the proper way, what God.

[Pastor Nancy]

Has said to them. Romans 8, chapter. Let's go to Romans 8. This many people, many big people, scholars, they think, they say this is one of the greatest chapter in the New Testament. So why not? It is actually loaded with everything. So this is a chapter where the Bible says Romans 8, 14, 8, 15, 16, 17. That as many as read by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God and all those things. But I'm not focusing on that. Because you have read that many times. I'm not focusing on that. So what I think is main reason why people.

[Pastor Kirk]

It gets hard for people to follow.

[Pastor Nancy]

His leading, which he is leading is unrenewed minds, people's people, unrenewed mind of people. It hurt them more than it should profit them. What is unrenewed mind? Reaction. Go to Romans 8:5. I'll read from the Passion translation. Romans 8:5. It says those who are motivated by the flesh only pursue what benefits them.

[Pastor Kirk]

But those who live by the impulses of the Holy Spirit are motivated to.

[Pastor Nancy]

Pursue the the spiritual realities. What is flesher? Flesh means carnal mind. Flesh means your carnality. What is carnality? It's not saying like carnality here. This is a scripture written to a Christian. This is just verses talking to us.

[Pastor Kirk]

To a Christian, to a believer, to.

[Pastor Nancy]

Sitting in the church.

[Pastor Kirk]

It says those who are motivated by the flesh means there are Christians that can be led, that can be motivated, that can follow the leading of flesh. Flesh means their carnal minds.

[Pastor Nancy]

What is a carnal mind?

[Pastor Kirk]

Unrenewed mind. What is unrenewed mind?

[Pastor Nancy]

The mind which doesn't think the way God thinks.

[Pastor Kirk]

The mind which is not washed with the word of God. The mind which cannot submit itself to the word of God. The mind which goes the other direction, which is not submissive to the Word.

[Pastor Nancy]

Of God or God himself.

[Pastor Kirk]

So that's called unrenewed mind. That's called carnal mind. That's why sometimes you have heard pastors say carnal buckets. What is bucket? Carnal.

[Pastor Nancy]

Not bucket. What is carnal? Bucket. You all know what is bucket?

[Pastor Kirk]

What is carnality here means he's talking not to the people outside the world. They are called sinners. Not that we want to call them, because they are called sinners, because they are the biggest sinners. They have not received Jesus yet. That's why they are called outside the covenant. They are sinners. We were one time sinners outside the covenants of God. But once we received Jesus, we came inside. But after coming inside, can you still be a carnal?

[Pastor Nancy]

Oh, big time.

[Pastor Kirk]

Can you stay fleshly?

[Pastor Nancy]

100%, guys.

[Pastor Kirk]

So here Paul is saying those who are motivated means those who are always into thinking fleshly carnality thoughts. They are the ones who benefit nothing. But those who are living by the impulses of the Holy Spirit means those who listen and, and hear and follow what the Holy Spirit is saying. They are the ones who will be pursuing the spiritual realities. Everything in Christian life has been given to us as a reality in the spiritual life. Bible says in Ephesians 1:3 that we have been blessed with all the spiritual blessings, all the spiritual blessings there is in any. We have been blessed. They are positional.

[Pastor Nancy]

They are not realities in real life like in natural.

[Pastor Kirk]

It has not manifested in life. They are in spirit. We are blessed with all those blessings. But how can you bring them here? If you still stay carnal, if you still stay fleshly, if you still stay the way unrenewed mind.

[Pastor Nancy]

If you stay, you will never be.

[Pastor Kirk]

Able to bring those realities into your life. That's why Paul is saying here that those who are motivated by flesh, they.

[Pastor Nancy]

Will never benefit from it.

[Pastor Kirk]

But those who are motivated, those who are led, those who are following the impulses of the Holy Spirit. What are the impulses? How you feel impulse. You have to go close, you have to quieten. You cannot hear the impulse with a loud music going on. You cannot hear that. What is loud music? Distraction. You cannot follow Holy Ghost without distractions in your life. You cannot say, oh, God is leading me. And when you are praying like two times in a week, bro, that's big clue.

[Pastor Nancy]

Don't follow that leading. That's a big clue.

[Pastor Kirk]

Don't follow the leading.

[Pastor Nancy]

Oh, I'm praying 50 minutes a day and I know I'm marrying that person. Don't marry that person, man.

[Congregation Member]

Hallelujah.

[Pastor Kirk]

Because it's going so much. Why?

[Pastor Nancy]

Because to renew your mind, to stay.

[Pastor Kirk]

Focused in your mind, to make it the way God things. It will take time. And it will take time every day, every week. You cannot say, I read the word yesterday or I read the word last month and Mind is perfectly fit and fine. My mind thinks like God thinks. No way. Brother Hagen used to say, if you don't come, you wake up in the morning and calm your hair. If you don't come, it will stay boom, boom, boom, wherever you want to go, right? You have to do every time. All of you look very beautiful. You know that. You have done that work half an hour before you come here. So you know that. Similarly, our mind will never stay renewed or perfectly in line with God unless it's washed completely every day with the word of God. He's saying, if you are not doing.

[Pastor Nancy]

That, you are not being led by the Spirit.

[Pastor Kirk]

So don't put a label that God.

[Pastor Nancy]

Is speaking to me.

[Pastor Kirk]

It's easy to put label.

[Pastor Nancy]

God is speaking to me.

[Pastor Kirk]

It's easy to say because our pastor is saying, because other people are.

[Pastor Nancy]

Because, listen, don't copy somebody's slogans.

[Pastor Kirk]

Don't copy. Because either copy their lifestyle or don't copy their slogans. Because if you can copy the lifestyle.

[Pastor Nancy]

Slow slogans will not help you in life. Bless God. I can do this. No, no, no, no.

[Pastor Kirk]

What you are doing in private life, Tell me. I'll tell you what you will do.

[Pastor Nancy]

In life or not.

[Pastor Kirk]

Oh, you know, I'm Christian. Listen, Christian means it doesn't give you that license that you are success in life.

[Pastor Nancy]

No, no, no. It depends how do you do with your mind?

[Pastor Kirk]

So that's why he's saying, but those who live by the impulses of the Holy Spirit are motivated to pursue the spiritual realities. For the sense. Verse 6. For the sense and reason of the flesh is death. But the mind controlled by the Spirit finds peace and life. Mind controlled by the Spirit. Either your mind will be controlled by the emotions or things going around in your life, or it will be controlled.

[Pastor Nancy]

By the Spirit of God.

[Pastor Kirk]

What do you mean by the Spirit of God?

[Pastor Nancy]

Means the word of God.

[Pastor Kirk]

If you're. If your mind listen, nobody can tell.

[Pastor Nancy]

What you are thinking right now sitting here. Some of you may be looking at me and thinking, what do you think? Listen, my mind is on the word because Right, Right now. Right now.

[Pastor Kirk]

But you can be sitting here and.

[Pastor Nancy]

Thinking a lot of other things.

[Pastor Kirk]

You can be sitting here and thinking about your neighbor. You can be sitting here and thinking wrong thoughts about anybody. So nobody needs to tell you that whether your mind is renewed or not. You only know that you can tell by yourself. The problem is people don't admit.

[Pastor Nancy]

That's the biggest issue with people.

[Pastor Kirk]

People don't admit. They don't like saying, I Did it?

[Pastor Nancy]

They always say, neighbor upside down beside anybody.

[Pastor Kirk]

Not me.

[Pastor Nancy]

You know, humility.

[Pastor Kirk]

Humility always says, even if he's not.

[Pastor Nancy]

Wrong, the person, he always says, you know what? I'll take the blame because it will create peace in the environment.

[Pastor Kirk]

Because people think I have to say I'm right.

[Pastor Nancy]

God doesn't care about your right. It's always first God's right. You go with that right, Then we'll think about what is your right.

[Pastor Kirk]

So he said, if you are motivated.

[Pastor Nancy]

By your flesh, you are not following the Holy Ghost.

[Pastor Kirk]

But if you are following the Holy Ghost means you are following the impulses of the Holy Ghost.

[Pastor Nancy]

You will follow and benefit from it.

[Pastor Kirk]

And either your mind will be controlled by the flesh or it will be.

[Pastor Nancy]

Controlled by the spirit.

[Pastor Kirk]

Only you can tell.

[Pastor Nancy]

Only you can tell. Nobody else can tell.

[Pastor Kirk]

Because the mind controlled by the flesh is death.

[Pastor Nancy]

Now verse seven says that in fact.

[Pastor Kirk]

The mindset focused on the flesh focused on the carnal things of carnal things. Focus on the fleshly things, focus on every negative thing in there fights. God's plan refuses to submit to his direction.

[Pastor Nancy]

What is direction?

[Pastor Kirk]

Leading. It says that it refuses to submit to his direction.

[Pastor Nancy]

The because it cannot.

[Pastor Kirk]

For no matter how hard they try, God finds no pleasure with those who.

[Pastor Nancy]

Are controlled by flesh.

[Congregation Member]

Hallelujah.

[Pastor Nancy]

Being led by the spirit. Pastor Pegg is doing a series on radio too. He said being led by the Spirit is easy. It is not hard. It is easy, but.

[Pastor Kirk]

But only for those people who are continually in the process of renewing their mind. If you are not engaging yourself in renewing your mind, in changing the way you think, in changing your direction of your mind, not putting your mind towards fleshly things, carnal things, wrong things, but in right things, then you are on a process of renewing your mind means your mind is being renewed every day. Your ear is into the impulse of the Holy Ghost and God is directing you and you will be able to pick. Why does God. People don't pick. Is it hard for God to lead? He said, I want to lead everybody. I want to lead everybody. But why it's hard for people to be led. Why it's hard for people? God is not that he's not speaking to you. He's speaking.

[Pastor Nancy]

He's leading. He's guiding.

[Pastor Kirk]

Because you are a Christian, it's your.

[Pastor Nancy]

Birthright to be led by your spirit of God.

[Pastor Kirk]

It is our birthright. As soon as you got born again, the same day God said, you will.

[Pastor Nancy]

Be led by my spirit.

[Pastor Kirk]

But it is my responsibility to be led it is my responsibility to hear. And if I am not hearing means it is something I am not doing. If I am something not doing is what it is with my mind. Because your mind will always stand in between God's voice and your actions. God can be speaking, but as long as you have unrane mind and you are consulting with the mind, you will.

[Pastor Nancy]

You will never act on what God said.

[Pastor Kirk]

And until you act on what God said, you will not profit what God said.

[Congregation Member]

Hallelujah.

[Pastor Nancy]

You will never. I want to read you a quote Brother Hagin said.

[Pastor Kirk]

He said any Christian who is in a bondage is in a bondage to.

[Pastor Nancy]

Unrenewed mind, not to the devil. It's brother Hagin who said that any.

[Pastor Kirk]

Christian who is in a bondage is in a bondage to unrenewed mind, not to devil. Listen, you are free because Jesus said, you have been set free from the powers of darkness. You have been translated from the kingdom of darkness and brought into the kingdom of light. You have been set free. Whom the Son set free is free indeed. You shall know the truth and truth shall set you free. You have been freed. But he said you he is in still bondage. He is not bondage to devil.

[Pastor Nancy]

He is bondage to his unrenewed mind.

[Pastor Kirk]

So it will behoove us to work on our mind. Because people say, oh, I am trying to hear. I am trying to hear.

[Pastor Nancy]

It can open a door to some other voice which can lead you into.

[Pastor Kirk]

A direction where you don't want to be. So what is my purpose?

[Pastor Nancy]

To keep renewing my mind.

[Pastor Kirk]

To keep running my mind, to keep washing my mind. How you can wash your mind only and only with the Word. You cannot renew your mind by praying in Holy Ghost. People say I pray in Holy Ghost for half an hour every day before I wake up in the and because God pastor said you pray in Holy Ghost before you go to business and it will prosper.

[Pastor Nancy]

Uh huh.

[Pastor Kirk]

Tell me, when was the last time you read the word? Oh, I read the Word last Sunday.

[Pastor Nancy]

When?

[Pastor Kirk]

Passage and open your book to Romans 8, chapter and fifth verse. I opened that time, but it is third Saturday night and I've been praying six days, half an hour in the morning.

[Pastor Nancy]

Yeah, you are doing good brother.

[Pastor Kirk]

But you are missing a clue. Because it's your mind who needs to be understanding. It's your mind who had to be enlightened. It's your mind who has to catch up. What Holy Ghost is speaking in you. It will not unless. Unless you wash it with the word with, not with the prayer. Prayer is drawing out of you. Word is washing here. And this is the one who said, if it is not controlled here, if it is not into the. This is not hearing the impulses of God. He won't benefit though. He said, I want to lead you, I want to guide you. I want to show you what you should do in your life. Because my leading will profit you. And I want you to profit. That's why I said, I will go and he will come.

[Pastor Nancy]

And until he comes, he will profit you.

[Pastor Kirk]

Jesus said that it's expedient for me to go. It's profitable, it is advantageous, means it will help you in your life when I go. Because he will come and he'll show you the things he's showing. But why I'm not seeing?

[Pastor Nancy]

Because your mind is not renewed.

[Pastor Kirk]

Because you're still thinking the way you shouldn't think. You're still acting the way. Because wrong thinking produces wrong believing. Wrong believing produces wrong speaking. And wrong speaking will end up with wrong things you have been doing.

[Congregation Member]

Hallelujah.

[Pastor Kirk]

So what should I do?

[Pastor Nancy]

You should be renewing your mind.

[Pastor Kirk]

Process continuously, always.

[Pastor Nancy]

Pastor Nancy said it's wrong thinking. Brother Ed, when Jesus met him in Peru 2004, he said, My people are not enjoying the best 97%. Why they are not enjoying the first thing they say. Pastor Nancy elaborated that statement she said was wrong thinking.

[Pastor Kirk]

What is wrong thinking? You can have a wrong thinking about the spouse. You can have a wrong thinking about the opposite sex. You can have a wrong thinking about the Word. You can have a wrong thinking about when offering is taken. You can have a wrong thinking about your boss. You can have a wrong thinking about your neighbor. Anything which is not in line with the word. It's wrong thinking. It's wrong thinking. But they did wrong to me and I'm not forgiving them. Oh, I'll forgive them from far, but I'm not.

[Pastor Nancy]

You're fooling yourself. It's not called forgiveness.

[Pastor Kirk]

It's wrong thinking. What? Will it help you?

[Pastor Nancy]

No.

[Pastor Kirk]

Will it help anybody?

[Pastor Nancy]

No.

[Pastor Kirk]

Why?

[Pastor Nancy]

Because wrong thinking never advantage person.

[Pastor Kirk]

It will never take person further. You cannot think whatever some people think wrong because they are pressured by the society.

[Pastor Nancy]

They are thinking what others will think. You cannot think what others will think.

[Pastor Kirk]

You cannot always be like, oh, what other people will think about me?

[Pastor Nancy]

Don't care about other people. Care about what God thinks about you.

[Pastor Kirk]

Your thinking should be aligned with the word of God. Your thinking should be in line with God's thinking, not other people thinking.

[Pastor Nancy]

There was a man Of God in India. Big mighty man.

[Pastor Kirk]

God.

[Pastor Nancy]

He saw God. He saw Jesus like brother Hagin. Multiple times he went to heaven multiple times. He, he had a big ministry in India, one of the largest ministries in India till these, these last days. And he was called to be apostle. He, he prophesied over brother Benny Hinn many. He went to heaven multiple times. Even in heaven he met brother Branham. William Branham came up to him and said to him few things about his life and what he shouldn't do, what he did to him. So he shared all those things.

[Pastor Kirk]

Great man of God. Millions used to gather him when he.

[Pastor Nancy]

Used to preach in India. God spoke to him while he was praying. One day he said to him, I want you to go and buy Mercedes, certain model, okay? He goes, he goes to a showroom, he checks the Mercedes, it's expensive. I'm not talking about 20, 20, I'm talking about 19, like late parts of that, like 25, 30 plus years ago. Anyways, he went and he saw expensive, he saw it's expensive. Instead of inquiring to God before again he said okay, use God. You said buy this Mercedes and this model. Buy Mercedes, this model. So he goes out and buys used Mercedes and the same model but used previous years. And because he loved God, he didn't want to disobey God. He did God's part. Click. I did it. And then he did it. And one day the family was going in the car and they had. They met an accident. And in an accident his daughter died. Now I'm not talking about a person who is just a regular member. I'm talking about apostle of God who had a highest position in the land. His daughter was in the car. And when the accident happened, his daughter died. Now some people will give up their salvation and run away from God for this. This man was a mature man. But his one part in his mind was not renewed the way he thought.

[Pastor Kirk]

Wow, people will think if I have a Mercedes, this one. He didn't think right in that. I'm not knocking him down. I said to you before him, I set his testimony. I'm telling you he was the highest general of God. But it doesn't matter who you are, you are going through a same process of renewing your mind.

[Pastor Nancy]

And he didn't act on that.

[Pastor Kirk]

And what happened? His daughter died. And he went to God, inquired about.

[Pastor Nancy]

God and said God because he was crying. And God said to him, stop crying, why are you crying my daughter? He said, go and check the model and the Mercedes. I said you to Buy he went and checked. There was every single bell and whistle in there.

[Pastor Kirk]

There was every single thing that would have prevented her from being dead.

[Pastor Nancy]

God said, I knew this will happen. But I was trying to tell you.

[Pastor Kirk]

Buy this, not that you bought dead. Why?

[Pastor Nancy]

Because you thought what people will think now you suffer. It was God who brought suffering. No, his wrong thinking. God was leading him. He was leading him to a right place.

[Pastor Kirk]

Why? If he had not, if he had obeyed God.

[Pastor Nancy]

Who cares what people think?

[Pastor Kirk]

It's his money. Even if it's ministry car, who cares? That's why God spoke to Dr. Jerry that unless you are delivered from people's.

[Pastor Nancy]

Opinion, you will never progress in your ministry. Why the wrong thinking? Wrong thinking? Well, these are big ministers.

[Pastor Kirk]

What about us little people walking in the streets? What about us who are doing a regular thing?

[Pastor Nancy]

You can have a wrong thing in some other part.

[Pastor Kirk]

Don't leave unchecked.

[Pastor Nancy]

Don't leave unchecked because these little things can hurt you. Big future.

[Congregation Member]

Hallelujah. Hallelujah.

[Pastor Nancy]

His ministry is still there. His next to next generation is still working. And they have a biggest, one of the biggest ministries in the world. But one wrong thinking in his mind cost the life of his dear daughter whom he loved dearly. Dearly he loved her. It hurt him badly, but he was enough mature in his walk with God. He knew it is not God who has killed, it is Satan who came to steal him. It was because he knew.

[Pastor Kirk]

Because a lot of people, they say, oh, I don't know, God took it away. No, God didn't take it away, it was Satan. Because Jesus said, I came to give life.

[Pastor Nancy]

But Satan comes to steal, kill and destroy.

[Pastor Kirk]

He came. Why? Because he was not obedient to what God said. Why he was not obedient because his mind was not renewed. How people think about me. How people will treat me. How people will look at me. Because in India.

[Pastor Nancy]

Listen. India is a land where multiple religions are there.

[Pastor Kirk]

And those religions are run by people created by those people.

[Pastor Nancy]

They have images. That's why I said there is a fine line between worshipping men and honoring pastors.

[Pastor Kirk]

And those men are being worshipped. Those men are being treated as gods. Those men take the money and use it vulgar word.

[Pastor Nancy]

You can use whatever word you can use that way.

[Pastor Kirk]

And he knew that in those days there were not many big ministries in India. And he thought, if I take that car and take God's offer, I will be treated in that category and what people will think. But God was trying to change his thinking. God was trying to break that mold and break that so that next generation of preachers, next generation of Christians will follow him. And he said, no, God. And God said, I gave you a choice. I gave you a chance. Because I know what is coming in two years, what is coming in half year. I know what is coming. You don't see, but you need to follow.

[Pastor Nancy]

But his unrenewed mind cost the life of his daughter.

[Congregation Member]

Hallelujah. Hallelujah.

[Pastor Kirk]

So it behooves us that we want to be led by the spirit of God. But if the word of God is not in your mind, if the word of God has not washed your thinking, if you are not seeing the way God wants you to see, if you are not acting the way God wants you to act, if you are not washing it with the Word, he can be leading you, but you are not confident enough to step it. Why?

[Pastor Nancy]

Because you are thinking something.

[Congregation Member]

Hallelujah.

[Pastor Nancy]

He always leads.

[Pastor Kirk]

He always guides. His word is not his voice.

[Pastor Nancy]

That's why he said, my sheep hear my voice. It's not just you will hear.

[Pastor Kirk]

His voice means my sheep knows how I lead them. You know, people know. It's not hard. It's just our mentality that is tripping people. How I think about money, how I think about neighbors, how I think about church, how I these things have to be in line with how God thinks about his pastor.

[Pastor Nancy]

You should think about that pastor.

[Pastor Kirk]

How God thinks about the church.

[Pastor Nancy]

You should think about the church. How. How God thinks, you know, God thinks.

[Pastor Kirk]

Highly of his house.

[Pastor Nancy]

You have people have house. You live in house, right?

[Pastor Kirk]

How you think of your house?

[Pastor Nancy]

Great. Very good. Right? You don't want to mess up things there, right?

[Pastor Kirk]

You don't want to put things there. Why? Because that's your house. If I come to your house and spill, you will say, oh, that's fine. But when I'm gone, you'll say, scrub it, I missed it in my face. You may say, oh, that's okay, that's okay. But I know what will happen when back. Why? Because that's your house. You want to keep it clean, you want to keep it nice, you want to keep it tidy and perfectly. But what about the house of God? If you spill a coffee here, don't look around and say, nobody saw it. Just say to a cleaner, say, hey.

[Pastor Nancy]

Brother, my bad coffee spilled.

[Pastor Kirk]

Can you help me clean? We'll do it together and clean it. Don't say, nobody saw. And then go and stand on that.

[Pastor Nancy]

Corner and say, yes, I escaped. Nobody saw, nobody saw that if gum.

[Pastor Kirk]

Fell from your Mouth, that's fine, pick it up. It's your mouth, it's your saliva, it's your gum. Pick it up. Take it in the garbage. No. Oh, it's your.

[Pastor Nancy]

No.

[Pastor Kirk]

Why?

[Pastor Nancy]

Because it happened. It happens, it happens.

[Pastor Kirk]

Ms. Sharon, I was witness because she was scraping one day a gum from the back. I was like what's that? She's like, it's a gum.

[Pastor Nancy]

How you treat house of God?

[Pastor Kirk]

Why?

[Pastor Nancy]

Because people don't think the way God thinks about his house. He rebuked the entire generation through prophet Haggai about only one matter, how you are treating my house. Didn't he say to them, you are.

[Pastor Kirk]

Living in your mansions, you're living nice lives, you're living beautiful lives. But yet you don't understand that you sow and you don't reap. You are clothed, yet you are half naked. You do things, yet you are not successful. You know why? Because you are not treating my house properly. Then he said to them, go and do what I tell you to do and treat my house properly and I will make sure that your house is taken care of. And people went changed. Why? Because they said God we didn't know it was wrong thinking they changed, they.

[Pastor Nancy]

Changed and God brought increase to them.

[Pastor Kirk]

Listen, you can listen the word, you can laugh at the word only will.

[Pastor Nancy]

Benefit you if you accept and do the word. What is change it?

[Pastor Kirk]

Change the thinking, change the way you.

[Pastor Nancy]

Acting, change the way you're treating.

[Congregation Member]

Hallelujah.

[Pastor Kirk]

Hallelujah brother. You use the tissue in your home and you throw in your dust bin. And it didn't fell in the dust bin, it fell on the floor. What do you say? Leave it there. What do you do?

[Pastor Nancy]

You will go and pick it up.

[Pastor Kirk]

And put it there. That's fine, it's your bro anyways. Why we do in the house of God in the washrooms? Oh, because washroom nobody sees. But it is still the part of house of God he treats. People think, oh, this is the holy place. Listen, everything around it is holy because.

[Pastor Nancy]

This belongs to holy God.

[Pastor Kirk]

Because nobody saw you in the parking lot. You kept the Tim Hortons cup because you wanted to put in the garbage. And you didn't want it to keep the garbage in your car. No, you should. Why?

[Pastor Nancy]

Because it will help you guys.

[Congregation Member]

Hallelujah.

[Pastor Nancy]

What is this wrong thinking? What is this wrong thinking?

[Pastor Kirk]

Because we are not thinking the way.

[Pastor Nancy]

God thinks about his house.

[Pastor Kirk]

Unless you do that, you make those things, you tweak those things God will always like, okay, I love you.

[Pastor Nancy]

Listen, God loves you, God loves Sinners and you the same. But sinners are not led.

[Pastor Kirk]

You are privileged to be led.

[Pastor Nancy]

So take that privilege.

[Pastor Kirk]

Don't have the privilege and don't use it, but utilize that privilege.

[Pastor Nancy]

If you have the privilege, it will benefit you and your family.

[Congregation Member]

Hallelujah.

[Pastor Kirk]

So the mind is what trips people, because the mind is what is in.

[Pastor Nancy]

Between here and here.

[Pastor Kirk]

God lives here and speaks here.

[Pastor Nancy]

But unless this is renewed, this will never be able to come out of you and step into. You will always keep tripping here. Is it God? I don't think so. And you know what other people people do next? When they don't, are they not sure the next wrong thing the people do is they run to somebody and say, I want to talk to you. I want to talk to you and ask you. I am thinking about this. I'm praying, and I'm picking up this thing. Is it God? Is it God? Let's go to Galatians, first chapter. I don't have to finish on time. And I promise you that you will be out of this on time. I have to be on my word. No pressure. Galatians, first chapter and verse 16. He Galatians, first chapter, verse 16 and 17. He said Paul talking about his story. Okay, I cannot go back.

[Pastor Kirk]

What?

[Pastor Nancy]

You can go back one.

[Pastor Kirk]

But he said in 16 to reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the Gentiles. I did not immediately confer with flesh and blood.

[Pastor Nancy]

The word confer here means consult.

[Pastor Kirk]

The confer word is advice.

[Pastor Nancy]

Can I. I'll show you from what it says and let me find man. The word confer here. Confer whatever you want to say.

[Pastor Kirk]

Yeah. It says to put oneself upon another.

[Pastor Nancy]

By going to him.

[Pastor Kirk]

Another word is take one into counsel, to consult, to seek advice.

[Pastor Nancy]

And the best one I like is middle voice.

[Pastor Kirk]

You don't want to put a middle voice between what God said to you and what you should do, because middle voice is trustworthy or not will determine.

[Pastor Nancy]

Where you end up.

[Pastor Kirk]

Paul said, I heard from God. And as soon as I heard from God, I didn't go to a person. I said, brother, do you think it's God? He said, you know what?

[Pastor Nancy]

Let me judge him. He went instead. The Bible says in 17th verse, nor.

[Pastor Kirk]

Did I go to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me, but I went to Arabia and returned to Damascus. What he's saying here, that when I heard from God, I didn't go to them and say, sister, judge by that. No, he said, I didn't go to apostles who were before me way before me, great people. I didn't go and talk to them and say, what do you think he said? Instead I went alone.

[Pastor Nancy]

Where does Arabia means desert, means lone place?

[Pastor Kirk]

Where he went in a lone place for what? To inquire more of God, to get it solidity, to get it more, more solid in him.

[Pastor Nancy]

I love Pastor Nancy in this. She said I'm never moved in rush. When she hears from God, she sits on it. That's why she never misses it. It's barely, you can tell in few years, in last 10 years, five years, eight years, whatever that she has missed. I'm not saying she never will miss, I'm just saying barely missing it.

[Pastor Kirk]

Why?

[Pastor Nancy]

Because when she hears, she says, I'll let it settle down. I let it settle down. I let it keep on rolling in me.

[Pastor Kirk]

Why? Because I don't need to go into people. Because God is in me. Holy Spirit is in me. He is the one who said, I will lead you, guide you, show you the things to come. He has said, my leading is for your prophet. He has said those things and I've heard something. And let, let me give it few days, let me settle it on it, let me sit on it. Whether this is from God or somebody else, let us sit. And when she sits, the more solid it gets into, more assurance comes. And then she's like, oh, this is.

[Pastor Nancy]

God, I'm moving in it.

[Pastor Kirk]

But here Paul is saying the same thing that when I, I didn't confer, I didn't consult, I didn't ask advice of I didn't do and go and say, oh, what do you think the most wrong thing you can do is if you're a young person, go to another young person and say, oh, what do you think? Can I marry her? Can I go to this college? Can I do this or can I do this business? You shouldn't. Why? Because you don't know what other person's mind is renewed or not even. And you are not led by another person's mind anyways to follow God's leading, you have to understand that it is coming from God. And for that you have to have alone time with God. For that you have to have a security in it that it is God.

[Pastor Nancy]

Who is speaking to me.

[Pastor Kirk]

I will not run to a person. That's the quick thing. What people miss it, they hear it, they run next morning, oh, by the way, I heard this breathing.

[Pastor Nancy]

You want to know what they think.

[Pastor Kirk]

But you didn't know what they think at all.

[Pastor Nancy]

You want to take their advice.

[Pastor Kirk]

And the worst thing you can do is you can pray in the night and something comes up into your spirit. And you can go to work in the morning and sitting on your neighbor's desk who is not a Christian at all, and start sharing with them what.

[Pastor Nancy]

The holy things of God.

[Pastor Kirk]

And you expect God to lead you.

[Pastor Nancy]

And guide you and show you the things?

[Pastor Kirk]

No. Learn from Paul. Paul said, I didn't consult them, I didn't confer with them. Though I knew, these apostles are greater than me, these apostles are mighty than me. These apostles were with Jesus. I was persecuting them, I was against them. But these men are ahead of me in spiritual things. But still, you know what?

[Pastor Nancy]

I will not go to them. I'll go alone with God, alone and make it sure this is solid in me. Go read in the next. Actually, next chapter says. In second chapter and second chapter says.

[Pastor Kirk]

Then after 14 years, I went up.

[Pastor Nancy]

To Jerusalem with Barnabas and also took Titus with me.

[Pastor Kirk]

And I went up by Revelation.

[Pastor Nancy]

Listen, Revelation is what when God shows you.

[Pastor Kirk]

He said, I went with revelation. He didn't go because I thought, that's a good idea. I thought, it's okay, I should do it. Maybe so and so did it. I should do it. No, he didn't do any. He didn't copy anything. Because leading of the Holy Ghost cannot be copied. It's not a copy paste thing that you can say, oh, this happened to him will happen to me. No, he didn't do that. He said, okay, I heard from God. Let me make it sure this is it. And after so many years, he said, I went with so and so two friends and went to Jerusalem. And when I went, I went by revelation and communicated to them with the gospel which I was preaching. I privately to those who were of reputation less by any means.

[Pastor Nancy]

I went and run means. First he heard from God in first chapter and then he made it solid in him.

[Pastor Kirk]

Then in after years, he went to the others.

[Pastor Nancy]

He didn't go to consult. If you read the word in Greek, it says, I went to declare. There's a difference between updating. There's a difference between consulting. There's a difference between declaring.

[Congregation Member]

Hallelujah, Hallelujah.

[Pastor Nancy]

He didn't consult with anybody. He consulted with God.

[Pastor Kirk]

He had enough time with God to.

[Pastor Nancy]

Make sure this is from God.

[Pastor Kirk]

When he had made sure this is from God, his mind was renewed enough, he didn't go up to them and said, what do you think by the way? He said to them, what I am.

[Pastor Nancy]

Doing is this thing.

[Pastor Kirk]

Now you tell me, are you doing the Same thing.

[Pastor Nancy]

He was declaring.

[Pastor Kirk]

Declaring means with authority, with assurance, with a commanding position.

[Congregation Member]

Hallelujah.

[Pastor Nancy]

You can make a big mistake if.

[Pastor Kirk]

Your mind is unrenewed.

[Pastor Nancy]

Go to another person and ask them first of all.

[Pastor Kirk]

Or go to pastor and update them. By the way, I prayed last month.

[Pastor Nancy]

For two hours and by the way, I'm marrying so and so would you bless me?

[Congregation Member]

Hallelujah.

[Pastor Kirk]

Either you have solid like Paul has.

[Pastor Nancy]

Or if you are not solid, go right away.

[Pastor Kirk]

To who?

[Pastor Nancy]

To your pastor.

[Pastor Kirk]

If it's a major decision, don't go after him and say I was grocery from this store.

[Pastor Nancy]

What do you think?

[Pastor Kirk]

I've heard bad news from them. Should I go back to that?

[Pastor Nancy]

No, no, no, no, no.

[Pastor Kirk]

It's a big thing. Should I move here? Should I apply here? It can change my direction of the whole home, my family, my marriage, all those things.

[Pastor Nancy]

What do you think, sir?

[Pastor Kirk]

That's a different story. But little things you shouldn't be.

[Congregation Member]

Hallelujah. Hallelujah.

[Pastor Kirk]

So that's why you have to have.

[Pastor Nancy]

To have to make sure your mind is being renewed. Mind is being renewed. Mind is being renewed.

[Pastor Kirk]

Because if your mind is being renewed, being washed by the water of God, by the. By the word of God, by. The Bible says that he restores my soul. The Bible says the word is the one Paul David said restores my soul. What is restoring means?

[Pastor Nancy]

What is restoring means that what was.

[Pastor Kirk]

Not in this condition, he makes it in this condition. You go restore your so fast. You go restore. Restore your certain things which are precious to you. You can go to restore means. It was not in this position. It was in this position but became this. But I wanted to turn it this way. So he restores what restores God. What is God? His word restores my soul. He said it is the incorruptible seed who has the power to save my soul. My mind means it is the only.

[Pastor Nancy]

Way that can change my mind.

[Pastor Kirk]

No amount of praying, no amount of coming to church, no amount of anything. You come to church one day, Sunday, two hours and out of two hours, 45 to one hour is a preaching announcement doesn't change your life.

[Pastor Nancy]

We have few this evening too.

[Pastor Kirk]

They don't change your mind. The Word of God changes your mind. If you get the word of God only 45 minutes in one week, what you expect to be led by the God and you have a decision of mountain to make.

[Congregation Member]

Hallelujah.

[Pastor Kirk]

So what you should do I've been praying every day I'll do is I'll.

[Pastor Nancy]

Put word first and then pray Word first and then pray. Word and pray. Word and pray.

[Pastor Kirk]

Because you are washing your mind also. You.

[Pastor Nancy]

You are praying also.

[Pastor Kirk]

You are washing your mind also. You are pulling it out of that too. You are washing your mind also. Because once you are pulling because you are praying, it will come up. It will come up. Whether you renew your mind or not, it will come up. But if it's not renewed, you will.

[Pastor Nancy]

Not know what to do.

[Pastor Kirk]

But if it's renewing also same time, and you're picking it up, renewing and pulling it out by praying in the spirit, what will happen when that answer come? In 5 days, 15 days, 1 month.

[Pastor Nancy]

2 years, you will know what to do. Boom. And then that will happen to you.

[Congregation Member]

Hallelujah.

[Pastor Nancy]

So what is. I'll quote you, brother Big guy. Brother Ed Canyon. He said, as our minds are renewed.

[Pastor Kirk]

He didn't say Christian. He said as our.

[Pastor Nancy]

It means like. What do you call takli? I don't know, man. Those English words.

[Pastor Kirk]

As per. As your minds are renewed, that devil.

[Pastor Nancy]

Is no longer a problem to us.

[Pastor Kirk]

For the knowledge of word reveals us.

[Pastor Nancy]

Our complete victory and his utter defeat. That's Ed Canyon.

[Pastor Kirk]

He said, as our minds are renewed, he is defeated, you are victorious. But if your mind is not renewed.

[Pastor Nancy]

You will never walk in that victory.

[Pastor Kirk]

You will walk in his defeat for life. Why? Because your mind doesn't know what to do. But if your mind is renewed and you understand what the spirit of God and the word of God is telling you is that you are a victorious one and he's a defeated one, this is the complete victory for us. He said, as per. As your minds are renewed, the devil.

[Pastor Nancy]

Is no longer a problem to you. He cannot be a problem to you.

[Pastor Kirk]

But sometimes people say, oh, devil, it's not always devil. It.

[Pastor Nancy]

It's our unrenewed mind. It's our unrenewed mind.

[Pastor Kirk]

Renewing our mind and exercising our faith.

[Pastor Nancy]

Makes us intelligent, Victor. That's what Pastor Nancy quoted again, E.W. kenyon.

[Pastor Kirk]

She said, renewing our mind and exercising.

[Pastor Nancy]

Our faith makes us intelligent, Victor.

[Congregation Member]

Hallelujah. Hallelujah.

[Pastor Nancy]

Amen. Don't run after minds of men. First Corinthians, chapter second says that God has prepared things for us. Right? God has prepared things for us.

[Pastor Kirk]

And we don't know what those things are. Only those things can come out of him into us, our life, by praying in spirit, by speaking not with the.

[Pastor Nancy]

Wisdom of men, but the wisdom of God, by praying in spirit.

[Pastor Kirk]

So don't run after men's wisdom. Don't run after men's. Minds don't run after those things because.

[Pastor Nancy]

Men'S minds are troubled minds.

[Pastor Kirk]

They rehearse thoughts. They do those things which will not.

[Pastor Nancy]

Benefit you at all. So run to God, like Paul said. I ran. I found out and I didn't go.

[Pastor Kirk]

And consult anybody, flesh or blood, because.

[Pastor Nancy]

Flesh is always carnality, he said. I didn't consult with any flesh, with any anybody, but I stayed here with alone God until it became a surety. And after that I went and declared what I know.

[Congregation Member]

Hallelujah. Hallelujah.

[Pastor Nancy]

So remember that your mind being renewed is your weapon.

[Congregation Member]

Hallelujah.

[Pastor Nancy]

Unrenewed mind is a. Is a minus in us. It's a loss for us. You being spirit filled, carrying unrunning mind. Oh Father, I bless them in Jesus name. I thank you for their lives, my father. I thank you for Pastor Ken and Pastor Jenny and Father for the honor you have bestowing upon them, Father. And thank you Father that you are lifting them up and up and higher.

[Pastor Kirk]

And closer to that anointing that will.

[Pastor Nancy]

Help not only them, but this ministry also and these people also, Father. So Lord, let this word gone into their minds and to their hearts produce from produce. And let you and none other be glorified in this. In Jesus name we say amen.