Is UFO Disclosure Preparing the World for the Antichrist? | L.A. Marzulli

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Podcast Summary:

Prophecy Watchers
Episode Title: Is UFO Disclosure Preparing the World for the Antichrist?
Hosts: Gary Stearman, Mondo Gonzales
Guest: L.A. Marzulli
Date: June 2, 2026

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Overview

In this richly detailed episode, Gary Stearman and guest L.A. Marzulli (joined in context by co-host Mondo Gonzales) dive into the intersection of UFO phenomena, biblical prophecy, and end-times deception. Drawing on decades of research, Marzulli presents the argument that recent governmental disclosures and global UFO narratives are more than scientific or conspiratorial intrigue—they’re spiritual, demonic deceptions aligning with biblical warnings of the coming Antichrist and a global, end-times deception.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

Personal Encounters and the Legitimacy of the Phenomenon

• Marzulli’s Early Experience: (01:16) Marzulli recounts his first UFO encounter as a 12-year-old and the stigma and suppression of these experiences, noting, "We saw a UFO...by the evening meal, the other three boys denied that they had ever seen anything because of the ridicule."
• Cultural Conditioning: (02:30) Stearman and Marzulli argue that decades of science fiction have primed the public to accept extraterrestrial life as positive and plausible—from “Epsilon Eridani” or other galaxies—whereas, biblically, these are interpreted as manifestations of fallen angels.

UFOs in the Bible and the Technological Supernatural

• Biblical Evidence:
  • (03:15) Marzulli references 2 Kings and Ezekiel’s “chariots of fire,” interpreting them as possible technological manifestations witnessed with ancient vocabulary.
  • (03:49) Stearman: “Turn to chapter one of Ezekiel, read it...you’ll be thinking, Sci Fi. Oh, no, it's not sci fi, it's biblical. That...is a celestial transportation vehicle.”
• Supernatural Technology:
  • (04:13) Marzulli proposes that biblical references to things like the "flaming sword" and "slaughter weapons" indicate advanced angelic technology, suggesting that angelic warfare is literal and involves non-human tech.
  • He posits: "[Angels] cannot be killed...but they can be wounded...which is why David beheads Goliath. That thing's not going to regenerate itself." (04:13)

The Government, Disclosure, and Global Conditioning

• Current Events:
  • (06:10) Marzulli cites Representative Nancy Mace, David Grusch, and recent Congressional hearings as evidence that UFO disclosure is reaching official levels: "Do we have crash craft?...Yes, we have crash Kraft...Do we have the pilots from these crash craft?...Yes, we have retrieved biologics."
  • He insists these are not “extraterrestrials” but “interdimensional entities with a very nefarious agenda.” (06:10)
• Abduction and Hybridization:
  • Marzulli highlights the "breeding program," drawing on media coverage (Bret Baer on Fox News) and connecting it to Genesis 3:15—the ongoing spiritual conflict between the “seed of the woman” and the “seed of the serpent.” (08:23)

Reverse Engineering and the Roswell Event

• Reverse Engineering:
  • (08:27) Stearman introduces “reverse engineering,” referring to the idea that the military has developed technology from crashed UFOs.
  • (09:29) Marzulli connects Roswell’s timing and location (home to the 509th, the atomic bombing group) as a deliberate post-war signal event, suggesting a spiritual strategy behind it.

The Endgame: One World Government and Religious Deception

• Prophetic Setup:
  • (13:33) Marzulli emphasizes: “The goal is a one world government, a one world religious system...these so-called ETs will say we created all life on this planet...Now at this critical juncture [a nuclear detonation]...that’s where they’re going to show up. That's the trigger...”
• Spiritual Warnings:
  • He repeatedly references 1 Timothy 4:1 (“...in the latter days some will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits...”) and Jesus’s warnings about end-time deception, asserting that current UFO narratives are a precursor to this “great deception.” (13:33, 19:18)

Historical Context and Demonology

• Ancient Testimony:
  • Stearman (15:20) reminds listeners that ancient texts worldwide depict flying beings and suggests these are not myths, but demonological encounters: “what we've got in Greek literature, Roman literature, Chinese literature...interaction with some strange people who fly down on disks.”
• Sophistication of the Deception:
  • Marzulli points out that the narrative has shifted from “demons” to “advanced extraterrestrials," making the deception more palatable and sophisticated for a scientific age. (16:33)

The Rapture and Deceptive Explanations

• Predicting the Spin:
  • (19:18) Marzulli argues that the UFO narrative will soon be used to explain the Rapture away: “They're already explaining away the rapture of a church...many people to leave the planet in an afternoon. That's us. We don't fit here any longer.”

Preparing Christians: Actionable Guidance

• How Should Christians Respond?
  • (20:32) Marzulli stresses understanding this as the “coming great deception,” urging listeners to be Biblically informed: “We need to understand that this is the coming great deception. That’s the first thing—that this is going to change everything.”
  • He references his and others’ research and documentaries (“Rungs of Disclosure,” films on abductions, Roswell, etc.) as critical resources for believers seeking discernment.
• Foundational Truths:
  • (24:43) “It is a scam. We are being led. They control the narrative. We don’t...We were created by a loving God, not extraterrestrials...I think we’re the only species that's made in the image and likeness of God and that's why he comes back here.” — L.A. Marzulli

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Cultural Conditioning:

  “For decades now, we've been mindwashed, brainwashed by science fiction...when in fact...all of our adult life...we have an entirely different view of what are called UFOs or UAPs.”
  — Gary Stearman (02:30)

• On Biblical Witnesses:

  “A chariot is the apex vehicle and fire is the only light source...you're looking at technology that's there. We're given little glimpses of it.”
  — L.A. Marzulli (03:15)

• On the Nature of the Entities:

  “These are not...aliens from Epsilon Eridani...These are the fallen ones. These are the fallen watchers. These are the fallen angels, and they have been setting this thing up for decades.”
  — L.A. Marzulli (01:16)

• On the Great Deception:

  "If Donald Trump stands up and says we're not alone in the universe, that changes everything.”
  — L.A. Marzulli (20:32)

• On Explanations for the Rapture:

  “They're already explaining away the rapture of a church...that's us. We don't fit here any longer. Our eyes are on him. We long to see him.”
  — L.A. Marzulli (19:18)

• On the Control of the Narrative:

  “It is a scam. We are being led. They control the narrative. We don't.”
  — L.A. Marzulli (24:43)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:16] L.A.'s first UFO encounter and personal motivation.
• [03:15] Ancient biblical references to "flying machines".
• [04:13] Angelic "technology" in the Bible.
• [06:10] Modern Congressional UFO hearings and the “rungs of disclosure”.
• [08:23] Connecting abductions to Genesis 3:15 and the breeding program.
• [09:29] Roswell crash and implications for human technological progress.
• [13:33] Prophetic implications: one world government and religious system.
• [15:20] Ancient legends as true demonological encounters.
• [19:18] UFO narratives explaining away the rapture; call for vigilance.
• [20:32] Guidance for Christians: discernment, research, and faith.
• [24:43] The role of media in advancing the deception.
• [25:46] The “story behind the story”: Satan's end-times plan.

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Conclusion: Takeaways for Listeners

• The widely accepted extraterrestrial/UFO narrative is, according to Marzulli and Stearman, a demonic deception forecasted in the Bible as part of the end-times great deception and linked to the coming Antichrist.
• Both encourage listeners to ground themselves in Scripture, be wary of cultural propaganda, and view UFO phenomena through a biblical lens.
• Christians are urged to do their own research, stay spiritually vigilant, and be prepared to give answers for their faith in a climate increasingly shaped by coming revelations and possible “disclosures”.

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Call to Action

Read the Bible, study the prophecies, and be discerning about world events and governmental narratives. Stay awake—"Wake up. Get the resources. Do your homework. Read the Bible." (L.A. Marzulli, 27:05)

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Transcript

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[L.A. Marzulli]

hello,

[Gary Stearman]

I'm Gary Stearman and this is Prophecy Watchers. From time to time, we have a wonderful guest, an old friend, his name, L. A Marzulli, and when L A comes to visit, he brings good things with him. L A, welcome back.

[L.A. Marzulli]

Great to be here, Gary. Thanks so much. Really appreciate it.

[Gary Stearman]

Now, you've been working on a subject for a long, long time, long time, and I'm going to let you tell everybody what that subject is. In fact, it's a subject that's gaining importance with every passing day.

[L.A. Marzulli]

The bottom line is this, the phenomena. And I've been studying this for years. Four years. I had my first UFO encounter when I was 12 years old at boy Scout camp when we looked up and we saw this disc like object in the sky. And we watched it for a good 20 seconds. I was 12. There were three other boys with me. Four of us, we go running. But we saw a UFO. We saw a UFO that was at lunchtime. By the evening meal, the other three boys denied that they had ever seen anything because of the ridicule. So when Nephilim came out in 1998, 1999, you know, it was like, well, it's a novel. Ha ha ha. This is great. I just hope Louisiana doesn't really believe in all this stuff, folks. I believe in it. I've warned against it. This is the coming great deception. There's no doubt about it, and we're already seeing it. And, you know, it's amazing how many people won't even address it or look at it. Your congress, your president, is addressing the subject. So this thing is real, but these are not. And I'll use your favorite planet. These are not wonderful aliens from Epsilon Eridani or some other planet or galaxy. These are the fallen ones. These are the fallen watchers. These are the fallen angels, and they have been setting this thing up for decades. But we're here now, and something's about to happen.

[Gary Stearman]

L. A in A way for decades now, we've been mindwashed, brainwashed by science fiction. But what that did was plant an extra galactic. And we all became used to thinking of unidentified flying equipment of various sorts as being from other galaxies, when in fact, as Bible believing Christians who have studied for decades, all of our adult life, basically the subject of fallen angels, we have an entirely different view of what are called UFOs or UAPs.

[L.A. Marzulli]

Again, you know, if you think that we're making this up, turn to 2 Kings, chapter 4 and read it for yourself, because it's right there. When Elisha boots out Gehazi Lord opened his eyes, I saw chariots of fire all around Elisha. I mean, what are those chariots of fire? So if you lived thousands of years ago, you have nothing in your lexicon to even describe what you're looking at. So a chariot is the apex vehicle and fire is the only light source. You know, oil lamps, fire, that's it.

[Gary Stearman]

Well, what about Ezekiel's flying machine?

[L.A. Marzulli]

Same thing.

[Gary Stearman]

Turn to chapter one of Ezekiel, read it and going through your mind will be two words. Sci fi. Oh, no, it's not sci fi, it's biblical. And the thing that you're seeing is a celestial transportation vehicle as used by the angels and by the Lord himself. If we are to believe it.

[L.A. Marzulli]

You know, the problem within the church is we have a very truncated view of the supernatural. Some of you have heard me say this before. And why do angels need this? Well, when the two angels go in, in the book of Ezekiel again, right, they have slaughter weapons. What is the slaughter weapon? What is that flaming sword that turns every which way when Adam and Eve are booted out of the garden? The cherubim are placed there, but the cherubim are not wielding the flaming sword. What's that? You're looking at technology that's there. We're given little glimpses of it. How do the angels fight when, according to the book of Revelation, I call it the great eviction notice, When Michael and his angels fight with the devil and his angels, well, they're not up there, you know, rolling dice or having thumb wrestling. They are fighting. Can they be killed? No, but I would put to you that they can be wounded and perhaps severely. So they will regenerate. And I'll just go way out on a limb here, which is why David beheads Goliath. That's it. He does that very, very deliberately. That thing's not going to regenerate itself. And fallen angels cannot be killed. They are eternal entities. But I believe that they can be wounded. How else does Michael push that demonic hosts out of the second heaven and they come to earth? So we're being set up for something, there's no doubt.

[Gary Stearman]

Well, we're talking about a biblical subject that's being transformed into a worldly subject by much, much propaganda. And by the way, it's going on in our own government right now as various hearings are held in Congress and scientific committees and so forth and so on, they are concluding that we are witnessing or about to witness perhaps that thing that was once made into a movie, a UFO landing in Washington D.C. and hobnobbing with the politicians and men of power.

[L.A. Marzulli]

And I think we're close to that. I mean, Trump has just stated very recently that it's going to reveal some of these UFO files. It's a question of how much and what we've had people like Representative Nancy Mace talk about bring the bodies in. So rungs of disclosure, we this all started when David, Commander David Fravor was on Tucker Carlson's show. And basically Tucker says, well, UFOs used to be the stuff of tinfoil hats and conspiracy theories. Maybe we should think of that. When Commander David Fravor says on the record that whatever he saw was not from this earth, that's the first rung. Skip up to rung number 16. So David Grusch is in under oath halls of Congress. Nancy Mace is asking him questions and Nancy Mase asks him, do we have crash craft? And David Grusch goes, I've already addressed that, but yes, we have crash Kraft. And then Nancy Mace follows it up. Do we have the pilots from these crash craft halls of Congress, not George Norrie on Coast to coast, your Congress, your representative. And Grusch looks right up at her and says, yes, we have retrieved biologics, but these are not extraterrestrials from some other galaxy. They are interdimensional entities with a very nefarious agenda. And let me just say this before I jump out of my chair because I get so excited, but you'll notice that nobody in Congress yet and none of these other so called pundits who are trying to tell us that they're friendly and they've free energy and all this other stuff. What about the abduction phenomena? One of our rungs, Bret Baer, talks about this, that some women, this is Bret Baer on Fox News. Some women who are taken find themselves pregnant. We have a whole film on this because the breeding program and you taught me this years ago. Genesis 3:15, the seed of a dragon will be at enmity with the seed of the woman. Yes, the one coming from the woman. The Proto Evangelion. The Messiah will. Will crush the dragon's head. You'll bruise his heel. You taught us that. We all knew Genesis 6, but we had never linked. I had never linked.

[Gary Stearman]

Genesis 3:15 states the conflict.

[L.A. Marzulli]

That's it.

[Gary Stearman]

Now there's something else and we're going to pause here in just a moment. But the fact is we haven't mentioned a two word phrase that's well used over the last few decades. And those two words are reverse engineering. Now, anyone who is in a high place in government or in the technical world, like NASA or like any of the large aircraft corporations will have heard that we've got parts and pieces which we have used to reverse engineer some rather advanced physics. And of course that never hits the public. So are we talking about people from Alpha Centauri who crashed and were trying to rebuild their craft? Does that all fit together in the way that you have put it together so far?

[L.A. Marzulli]

Well, they have deliberately crashed the craft. Think about this. The Roswell crash in 1947 happens in Roswell, New Mexico. You say, why Roswell, New Mexico? The late David Flynn wrote papers on this and books on it and connected the whole Roswell event with the biblical narrative, which was incredible. We don't have time to get into that. But what I will say is this. The 509th bombing group is stationed at Roswell, New Mexico. You say, well, what does that mean? The 509th bombing group is the bombing group that dropped the two atomic bombs, one on Hiroshima, the other on Nagasaki, and that's why they're there. That's their trigger. In my opinion, and I talk about this in rungs of disclosure, that is the last rung, because you have a nuclear device going off anywhere on this planet and that's going to create the greatest climate of fear that mankind has ever experienced.

[Gary Stearman]

Collectively, we're talking to La Marzulli. Going to pause right now so that you can find out how to get your copy of our magazine, the Prophecy Watcher.

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[Gary Stearman]

And we're back with L A Marzulli. And we had just gotten into something very interesting because these people, I'm going to call them people, but they're biblical as far as I'm concerned. The Bible describes them. These people have a motive, they have a goal that they're trying to achieve. What's the goal?

[L.A. Marzulli]

The goal is a one world government, a one world religious system. And that you have these guys show up and they will stay. So called ETs will say we created all life on this planet and we genetically manipulated early man. We started the world's religions, started the world's civilizations. Now at this critical juncture when a nuclear device goes off somewhere on the planet and the entire globe is looking at this because we're all linked up. It creates the greatest collective fear that humanity has ever experienced together. And that's where they're going to show up. That's the trigger, in my opinion. That's the trigger. That's where they're going to show up. So what, let me ask you this, for those of you who are watching. What are you going to do if Donald Trump releases the files and then makes a statement which essentially is earth shattering, that we are not alone in the universe? How does that affect your Christian faith? And I will say this, and I got this from Mondo Gonzalez, when we go to first Timothy, chapter four, verse one, the spirit expressly states that that in the latter days some will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits. And the doctrine of demons, why is that there? Why would Jesus himself warn us that even the elect would be deceived from what is coming upon the earth? Something is coming upon the earth for the powers of heaven. He tells us exactly what it is. Will be shaken men faint from fear for his coming upon the earth. Even the elect would be deceived if possible. Unless those days were shortened, no flesh would survive. We are headed towards a moment which has been prophesied. Welcome to Prophecy Watchers. Has been prophesied thousands of years ago. We're living it, we're watching it unfold right in front of us, right before our eyes.

[Gary Stearman]

Well, LA, if you think back to the pre Christian era, all the great nations of the world have what has come to be called legends, but they're not legends. We think they're legends. We think they're kind of made up stories of what the ancients saw and what they wanted to tell us. But what we've got in Greek literature, Roman literature, Chinese literature, let's say, is interaction with some strange people who fly down on disks. Occasionally they land and they make friends with humans. And they are thought to be people from another land, or as in our own case, people from another galaxy. But in fact, our own Bible speaks volumes about these people. And they're called demons. And a study of them is called demonology. However, they have cleverly managed to sophisticate themselves right into our world of science. And that's where they are right now.

[L.A. Marzulli]

You know, you talk about back engineering and I know you read the book because you and I have talked about it off camera. Philip Corso's book, Day After Roswell. And Corso, you know, he was criticized by there's always naysayers out there. We all know about that. But Corso said that much of what we received was back engineered. In other words, some of the technology that we're looking at now was back engineered. So this thing is happening. If you've not seen Age of Disclosure by Dan Farah, it's a must see because he has admirals and scientists and physicists and congressmen and Congresswoman Marco Rubio. They all look at the camera and they say we are not alone in the universe. They are setting the tone of the discussion. The church isn't even involved. There's a few of us who were talking about this and there's also some Johnny Kamalis. Thank God some of those people are there because they're warning too. But you and I have been banging this drum literally from the first interview we ever did was about this subject. And we have talked about it incessantly for years, decades.

[Gary Stearman]

It's really pretty simple. The world of demonology, the world of Satan as the leader of a rebellious force against GO has launched a number of different wars against humanity since Adam and Eve. Well, and before that, but let's just say since Adam and Eve. And we all know those stories and we all refer to these people

[L.A. Marzulli]

who

[Gary Stearman]

come from beyond as demons and demonological societies of various kinds that occasionally come into, say, the Egyptian culture, the Greek culture, it's everywhere.

[L.A. Marzulli]

Roman cultures, everywhere.

[Gary Stearman]

And so we calmly and peacefully put these away as just demons. But today, no, no, no, not demons. These are people from another galaxy and they are here to help us. And they are here to give us technology that will take us to the next level. Living and the, shall we say, enhanced life that comes with greater technology. They're here to help us. And I hear that propaganda all the time.

[L.A. Marzulli]

All the time, all the time. And this is problematic because, you know, people of our ilk who hold our worldview, we are already being ostracized. We are the other side of the aisle, channeled information. The doctrine of demons seducing spirits, we already talked about that.

[Gary Stearman]

Right?

[L.A. Marzulli]

First Timothy, chapter four. It's right there. They're already explaining away the rapture of a church. They've explained away the rapture of a church. There was a potential for many people to leave the planet in an afternoon. That's us. We don't fit here any longer. I will admit that we don't. Our eyes are on him. We long to see him.

[Gary Stearman]

And once again, they're using demonology to concoct an explanation for what's happened at the Spirit.

[L.A. Marzulli]

They are, absolutely.

[Gary Stearman]

And it's a giant lie.

[L.A. Marzulli]

It is, it's a fabrication. It's a lie. But this is where we are. And the sobering part is that, you know, many, some not many, some will depart from the faith. Some will depart from the faith.

[Gary Stearman]

We're here now. We have four or five minutes left. The time is running fast. One thing I'd like for you to do is tell people what they can. Having heard this, what can you do to assure peace and confidence that your life is not going to end up aboard some flying saucer somewhere? What can you do as a Christian?

[L.A. Marzulli]

Well, as a Christian, we need to understand that this is the coming great deception. That's the first thing, that this is going to change everything. If Donald Trump stands up and says we're not alone in the universe, that changes everything. We need to. And that's why I wrote the book Runs of Disclosure. That's why Gil Zimmerman and I created 10 films. Everything on Close Encounters of the First, Second, Third and Fourth Kind, counter mutilations, abductions, crop circles, two films on Roswell. Finally, what is the truth?

[Gary Stearman]

Cattlemere stations, I have to say, just really fast. And this is the sacrifice of cattle. Where do we read about that in the old hello, Louisiana. This is absolutely amazing. We don't have much time left here, but what I want to do right now is tell you how you can get L A S materials long research on this subject,

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[Gary Stearman]

And we are back with L. A Marzulli, who would love for you to gain the kind of wisdom that it takes to see through this giant 21st century scam that we've got going for us right now.

[L.A. Marzulli]

It is a scam. We are being led. They control the narrative. We don't. We don't control the narrative. They control the narrative. Steven Spielberg is coming out with a film disclosure day and I have done extensive research on it. I've only seen the trailer. I have gone scene by scene by scene. This is crafted, in my opinion, with all due respect, he's a brilliant filmmaker, but he is setting millions and millions of people up to believe the lie. And that's where we are. Gary. It is a lie that we were created by a loving God, not extraterrestrials. We were not seated here by an advanced race of extraterrestrials. We were created in the image and likeness of God and Jesus spoke everything into existence. And as far as we know, we're it. Because no one knows what this is or where we are in the universe. Why? You know, I have a problem with plurality of worlds. I think this is it. I Think we're the only species that's made in the image and likeness of God and that's why he comes back here.

[Gary Stearman]

Indeed. It's happening right before our very eyes. And it's amazing, Elie, what you can see and misidentify. I think this is a human trait. Human beings are often led to believe that the first thing they saw or the first encounter with an idea that they finally realized is the way things really, really are. And they're not going to look anyplace else. Now they've got the explanation. And I think this is the whole ufology myth, namely, all you need to do is just see one time that something is real and that's all you need to know.

[L.A. Marzulli]

That's it.

[Gary Stearman]

But there's a story behind the story.

[L.A. Marzulli]

There is a story behind the story. The dragon, Satan has been planning this, you know, line by line, precept by precept. It hails back to the Darwinian theory of evolution, which that's the nexus, in my opinion. And then from there it just continues into the present day. We are being told that we're not alone in the universe. It's going to happen. Wake up. Get the resources. Do your homework.

[Gary Stearman]

Read the Bible. Because the Bible, believe it or not, you think of the Bible kind of as an antique source of kind of offbeat history. And you say, I'm not really interested in that. But the Bible is not. The Bible is every word true. If you want to find out exactly what a flying machine is that spouts flames and wreaks havoc, it's in the Bible. You can find out the truth about it, not some fictional outer space explanation that comes from the pen of a sci fi writer. Right?

[L.A. Marzulli]

Amen. Thank you, Gary.

[Gary Stearman]

Been, it's been great. And we'll talk about this again. I'm Gary Stearman. Hey, you keep watching. We are.

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