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The Week in Bible Prophecy, a prophecy watchers podcast.
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Welcome to the program. Joe Hawkins here with my good friend and colleague, Mondo Gonzalez. You know, there's a lot of discussion out there and attention on the UFO disclosure and alien disclosure and, and rightfully so. It's a very interesting and it's a very important topic. But, but let's not forget everything else that's going on. In just the last week alone, I've come across three separate articles concerning the Temple Mount in Jerus, Jerusalem. And so today we're going to share these articles and we're going to provide you with some commentary and analysis on these. So, Mondo, how's everything going with you?
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Going good, Joe. It's always great to chat and we're going to be together here pretty soon. So it was fun, good times, looking forward to it.
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So let's, let's dive right into it. So Ben Gavir declared that Israel has restored sovereignty on the Temple Mount during Jerusalem Day at the highly contested holy site ahead of the annual flag march through Jerusalem's Old City. And Ben GVIR ascended the Temple Mount and publicly celebrated what he described as an increased Israeli control over the area. In remarks posted on social media, he stated that the Mount is now in our hands and credited stronger security measures and deterrence policies for what he called one of the quietest Ramadan periods in years. And we have another one here. Rabbi Eliyahu, time for a synagogue on the Temple Mount. Rabbi Eliyahu, who is a prominent Israeli rabbi, is calling for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and government leaders to advance the establishment of a synagogue on the Temple Mount. Speaking during the Jerusalem Day event, standing opposite of the Temple Mount, Rabbi Eliyahu declared that the Islamic structures currently on the site are connected to Israel's long exile and insisted that the first and Second Jewish temples once stood there and that a future Third Temple will one day stand there again. He argues, until such a temple is rebuilt. Excuse me. A synagogue should be established there in the meantime. And then lastly, Heredi rabbi issues a rare Temple Mount ruling. Rabbi Breitowitz, who is a senior lecturer there in Jerusalem, recently addressed the complex issue of ascending the Temple Mount according to Jewish law. While noting that he personally has never ascended the mountain, remains cautious. He acknowledges that there are areas considered permissible for ritually impure individuals to enter, provided that they avoid the location traditionally associated with the holiest of holies, near the Dome of the Rock. Now, Mondo, three articles in less than five days. I mean, this, this certainly speaks volumes of where we stand prophetically, or at least I think so.
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But when you hear Israeli officials openly declaring sovereignty over the Temple Mount, how significant is to, is this to you prophetically?
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Oh, man, this, this is, this is phenomenal. It's one of the things that I think for those in the prophecy world, you know, that, that take the scripture in a pretty straightforward way. This is something that we've been waiting for. Honestly, when you go back to even 100 years ago, there were many people, and even further, you go back, let me just say this, that if you go back to the early church, I mean, many people, you know, try to say that, you know, the Bible doesn't teach, you know, anything about a future physical temple and that church history never taught, that's just false. We go back to irenaeus Hippolytus, certainly 100 taught, you know, from 200 A.D. on that in the future time there would be a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem which would be polluted by the physical person of the Antichrist. I mean, I know there's a lot of discussion right now that, you know, there's a lot of discussion between those that are maybe covenant theologians or, or other who are on Millennialist. And this is, this is why we do what we do, because on our website and just encourage people to check it out, they can go to prophecywatchers.com temple I made it real easy and I ask, I talk about this exact thing and whether it's crazy for us to believe that a temple, a physical temple, would be rebuilt. And I give all the scriptures and stuff, but I also give the extensive church history. So I put that out there simply to say it is extremely prophetically important because of, of what the Bible says and what we've been waiting for and others even again, going back 100 years, before the Jews were around, even before the Jews recaptured Jerusalem, during the Six Day War in the Temple Mount, specifically during the Six Day War of 1967. So when we see these things happen and we can talk a little bit more about the development of politically as well about it, but when this happens, we just go, look, the scripture says this is going to be the case. Many people, not all, but many in church history have expected and made comments that the Bible teaches us. And so now that we're seeing the trend, the status quo begin to shift, I think. Come on. Okay, this is it. This is it. This is the prophetic developments that we've been waiting for.
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It's absolutely wild. And when we see Rabbi Eliyahu specifically stating that the Third Temple will be there. You know, when, when you hear religious leaders speaking publicly about the temple, you know, how close do you think we are to, you know, serious preparations for this future temple structure?
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Well, that, you know, that's a great question because, you know, in, in my Red Heifer book, I, I talked about what has changed, especially you know, the Red heifers themselves. I mean that, that helps us to understand that there's developments that are happening by these religious Jews, the, the religious Orthodox Jews. So that tells us. So when in seeing. At the time frame? Well, that's pretty hard to know. But what we do know is from 1967, you know, basically you had the Temple Mount Faithful by Gershon Solomon, who, he began the, the Temple Mount Faithful movement. He just actually passed away in the past couple years. And then in the 80s, you had the Temple Institute begin to develop very specifically. And so when you talk about timing, what do we see? Well, there was a big lull between 1967 and let's say 1987. So you got 20 years there. And then once the Temple Institute was, was developed, founded, they began to create everything that the priesthood would need or a functioning temple would need. So when we say timing, most of the preparation has already been completed. In fact, they, they are currently making stones. They got to make those outside of the city. They're making stones for the temple structure. They are, they have, they're having periodic meetings for the, for the Levitical priests who are doing music. They have all the garments. They have the, the menorah, the golden menorah. So preparation there is well underway. And so what, what I talk about again in, in, in my Redhead book is simply to say what has been lacking is not the religious preparation because they actually try to bring an animal up every so often to do a Passover thing on the Temple Mount and they have been forbidden. But what's missing? There's two things that have been missing. One is the rabbinic status quo, which you're just discussing. And the second one has been the political status quo. And so those two things have shifted over the past many years. I would say probably in the past 10 years, you 15, you've seen the rabbinic movement shift. We could talk more about that, as you saw in the articles. But the political shift has been even more pronounced and quickly because Itamar Ben Gvir, the security minister there in, in December of 22, they all got voted in this latest administration, got voted in, in November of 22. Well then the government got form, founded and formulated basically in December Netanyahu and others. And it's the most religious government that has ever existed in the history of Israel. And lo and behold, enter Itamar Ben Gavir, this guy who is again, the, the security minister. The first day of their administration, he went on the Temple Mount. Now he's pushing the envelope, and that's why he gets a lot of attention in some of these articles, because he has not stopped now for over three years, pushing the envelope as it relates to the status quo of the Temple Mount. So I don't think it's going to change. I don't think it's going to go backwards at all. So as it relates to timing, it's, it's getting more and more, more and more, more and more movement in speed, just again in the last three years. So what does that say for the next three years? I guess we'll find out.
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Yeah. You know, speaking politically, you know, in the, in the article, he referenced that a synagogue being placed on the Temple Mount. Now, do you think that a synagogue being placed on the Temple Mount could be a stepping stone, you know, psychologically and even politically toward a larger temple presence in the future?
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Oh, a thousand percent, yes. Because what, what's been happening again, these two paths, the religious path and the political path? Well, the religious path, you know, Ben Gav, not only is he part of the government, but he's also an Orthodox Jew. So as he's been going up there, he also is part of security. So the security in the past has been very, very strict about Jews. Jews are currently, at least according to status quo, are not allowed to pray up there or do any pr. There is a religious bowing down or singing or anything. That has been the way it's been since 1967. But Ben Gavir made it his goal to change that, and he has because he's in charge of security now. So he is, he's putting in place security apparatus, apparati, if you want to say plural, to help protect them. So when they go up now, they have a, a force with them. And so they're able to pray. They're singing, they're bowing down. And so that is changing the status quo. And they're also showing that they are not specifically interrupting the, the worship at the Alaska Mosque, which is on the south side. It's, it's, you know, the whole area is 37 acres. So it's big. It's really big up there. And the, the religious Jews, they will not, based on the rabbis basically prohibitions. They, you won't ever see Them generally around the Dome of the Rock because they believe the Dome of the Rock is the place where the, the previous temple st. And if you just calculate out where the temple, the size of the Temple, then they would calculate so far out they have a map actually of, of where they perceive that the holy of holies would be. And that's the key. They don't want to go in there and be responsible for polluting what they consider the holy of holies. But the rest of it is huge. So if a, the next, the next logical thing in not only the religious side, but in the political side would be for them to get a synagogue. And there's lots of room up there where they could have a synagogue in one of the far corners on the outskirts of the area. And then if there is a if that happens, man, we are on the fast track to seeing a third temple.
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So Mondo, in your book, you asked about 15 prophecy authors, you know, what their opinion is on Christians that support the third Temple, the construction of a third Temple.
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Well, I appreciate that because this was always the question that was coming up, you know, as I'm writing this, because this again, it's a very important topic. So I simply said, well, hey, you know what, I have my own opinion, but let me find out what all my, you know, my friends and other people's, their favorite prophecy teachers are, you know, Jamie Hickson, Andy Woods, I mean, even Amir Tsarfati and others, Tom Hughes. So I said, hey, Lee Brainard, Pete Garcia, what do you guys think? Should we do this? And one of the way that I asked it was should Christians support with their money the supporting of the building of the Third Temple? And you know what, you get a variety of perspectives and some were very adamant, absolutely not. Christians should not support this because Jesus is the final sacrifice. And the, there's no reason to put money into supporting a system that we know that God has moved on from. I mean, and, and so you get all the answers there. But I would say this, that I think, unfortunately, Joe, that when we talk about it, people then make the assumption, this is why I asked the question of them, because we report on it. The assumption is that we're approving it. And so I didn't say that. I mean, I personally would not give money for the rebuilding of the Third Temple. But what that, that is. So when, when we say should Christians support it? I think ultimately what most of the teachers said is that, you know, that's between them and the Lord. But they would say for them personally, they personally wouldn't. And, and I would take that same position. But I again, I know others who are solidly Christian and they, they love, they have friends that are Jews and they want to support the movement because they have this idea that there's going to be this idea of worshiping God at the Temple Mount with the Temple Jews and Christians together, which, that, that's, that's their, that's their goal, that's their heart. I think that's going to end up being extremely problematic because for the most part Christians in that system will not be able to be included in any, the worship. There's a court of the Gentiles, so it's like, hey, we're Jews, you don't belong here. You need to go outside and into the court of the Gentiles. And I don't think that that's necessarily done with any malice. Maybe for some of the Orthodox Jews, maybe. But for the most part they, they're believing that they're following the Torah, you know, and they're going to have their system set up where God under the Old Testament, under the Old Covenant, under the Mosaic covenant had it very strict, where you had Gentiles and even women on the periphery. So should Christian support, you know, that's going to be up to them. But at the end of the day, what we're doing right here is we're simply reporting the news of what's happening as well as describing that the Bible says, the Bible makes a statement. The Bible's also reporting the news. The Bible is reporting that in the future this third Temple will be built and it will be. Sacrifices will be being offered by the Jewish people. It doesn't, it's, it's not, it's not spoken in a context of, of, of endorsement or even rejection in those passages. It's simply stating a historical, well, in this sense a future fact that this is going to be in place.
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Yeah, 100% agree with that. And the reason why I asked that question is because, you know, one of the new features we've started here on Prophecy Watchers is posting, you know, daily news links and they're really like in a bullet point form and it's been a really well received and I think some people do at times they would interpret our post as an endorsement of whatever headlines that we're sharing and when we're, we're just sharing the things that we feel are prophetically significant, such as anything that has to do with the Temple Mount is prophetically significant. So of course we're going to report on that. I mean, just because we report on the rise of, of artificial intelligence and the, the rise of the beast system infrastructure, we certainly don't, you know, endorse this a future BE system, but we're certainly going to report on it, we're going to talk about it because it's prophetically significant. So, last question I got for you here, or maybe the last question is, you know, a literal reading of Daniel 12, 11. We can infer that a temple will be in place because daily sacrifices will be taken away. You know, that would mean that a functioning temple is, is in place leading up to the midway point of the tribulation. Now, do you think it's possible for a functioning temple to exist outside of the tribulation, or do you think that it's, you know, a little bit too impossible at the moment, you know, due to the geopolitical landscape?
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That's a great question because not only in, you know, in another parallel passage we have Daniel 9:27, that, you know, that he'll confirm the covenant for the Jewish people for the many for one week. And then in the middle of the week he, the Antichrist will put a, an end to sacrifices and offerings. And we, we believe that that of course is going to be the middle of the 70th week of Daniel, which is three and a half years in. So what that tells, what does that tell us? It brings up another question that's similar, which maybe is a. Uncle Mondo, when do you think the temple is going to be built? Well, the Bible doesn't tell us, you know, oftentimes prophecy is given as a snapshot. You get a snapshot of an event and it doesn't necessarily tell you exactly how it's going to happen. For example, Micah 5. 2 says the Messiah would be born in Bethlehem, but it didn't tell us how the mechanism, we didn't know that God was going to move the heart of an emperor, you know, to have a census that would bring, you know, Joseph and Mary down from Nazareth, down, you know, where they were living, down to Bethlehem. But so the mechanism isn't always explained. So in the same way, all we have is this. In the middle of the week, in the middle of that seven year period, the sacrifice and the offerings are ceased. Now what? The question is, how long have they been going? Have they been going one week, two weeks, two years, three years, five years? The Bible doesn't tell us that. So all we know is by the middle of the week they're there. Now, my opinion, I can add one More thing though, if I was to add another element, I would say that According to Daniel 9:27, I've written a lot about this, as many people know and spoke about it, that when it comes to Daniel 9:27, literally, I mean literally in Hebrew it says the he, which is, in this case, I think it's the Antichrist. The Antichrist will cause the covenant. And in this sense, I think it's the Mosaic covenant in context. So the Antichrist will cause the Mosaic covenant to prevail for the Jews for one week, and then in the middle of the week, he will cause the sacrifices and offerings to cease. So that being the case, what he does is, I think he comes in and he's the one that initiates the covenant to prevail, to be put into place, to be then obeyed and followed. And so I think in that case, if I lean on that, not everybody agrees with me and that's fine. But I take that as that all this, all this machinations that are happening, all this preparation, he's going to be the one to fully and finally cause this to prevail. And, and when he causes the Mosaic covenant to prevail, that means to be enforced for the law of the land, so to speak, for the Jews. Remember, right now most of Israel is secular. So the, the, the, the religious Jews want the Mosaic law to be the law. But there's enough secular people that that's not the case. You know, you might have some things that are like not open on Saturdays or Shabbat, but for the most part you can still buy bacon. You know, you can still buy a lot of things. There are a lot of rules. You know, most of the restaurants, you can't buy a cheeseburger because that's mixing the meat and the cheese together. It's kind of sad. Okay, love a good cheeseburger. But when he comes on, he's going to enforce all that. Well, when he enforces the Mosaic covenant, what does that mean? Well, the Mosaic covenant is the temple. It's, think of all, if you were to ask somebody in the Old Testament, where are the temple stipulations found? Well, they're found in the law of Moses. So when he, when he causes that the law of Moses to prevail or to be enforced, that's going to include all of the temple requirements. And therefore I think for that seven year period, so I think based on that, most of a lot of the work has been done, but the actual construction and initiation is going to be during the 70th week. Of Daniel during that seven year period.
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Yeah, I would certainly recommend that everybody pick up the Mystery of the Red Heifer Israel, the End Times and the Building of the Third Temple. You know, it really has a lot of this information in there and Mondo does a really great job of laying it out. And Mondo, speaking of Daniel, you'll be speaking at the Rapture in the Rockies Prophecy Conference in Colorado Springs. I'll be there as well. And your message is entitled Unsealing Daniel's Book Answering the Critics. Now, can you give us a quick preview of your message and explain how everybody can watch it if they're unable to attend in person?
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Yeah, of course, we'd love for people to be there. We do have just a few tickets left in Colorado Springs. But if you can't join us in person, then join us through live Stream, which is going to be awesome. And we have, we have extra bonuses for those that are doing live stream and you can just go to prophecywatchers.com and scroll down and you can see the, the Live Stream banner and you can join us that way. My particular, I believe I'll be speaking on, I'll be the second speaker on Thursday night and unsealing Daniel. It that that idea comes from Daniel chapter 12, where Daniel is given the prophecy, many, many prophecies, but especially Daniel 12, where he's looking for information. He's looking for information about the end, this very specific conversation. And the angel says, seal it up, Daniel. It's not going to be, it's going to be for a long time from now. Not you, you. It's going to be not in your lifetime, but seal it up until the time of the end. And then it goes on to describe that at the time of the end knowledge would increase. And so which to me this is why you have a lot of, a lot of dark, I would say a lack of understanding of prophetic developments for the most part in the church age because, you know, going all the way from the time of Jesus until now because we're not at the time of the end. And so one of the things that I wanted to do was I wanted to, to talk about that. I wanted also to talk about how now that we're at the time of the end, there's a lot of hatred towards what we would call dispensationalism or dispensational thinking in understanding the, the prophetic developments of being future. Of course we know we have a lot of brothers and sisters who are all millennial. They don't believe in a physical millennium with Jesus ruling from Jerusalem. And so they often will, will go into a lot of allegory. Isaiah 11 is a great example where you have a whole description of the natural world being, being changed. The wolf will lay down with a lamb, the lion's eating straw like an ox, the bear, you know, all these things. And so they just, they allegorize it or they, they see it as figurative. And so I'm going to address some of that, but specifically I want to address this, I'm going to address many things there, but I want to address the 70 weeks of Daniel, because the 70 weeks of Daniel is, is of course super important, has certain important part to play as we understand this 70th week, the seven year period. And I just want to go through, I'm actually going to go through and share how they, how the amillennial teach this. And I'm just going to show it and then I'm going to show what we would describe as a futurist perspective and just say, hey guys, which one, which one makes sense and which one corresponds to the reality of what we're seeing at the end of the age here? And ultimately I do think that those that are more amillennial in their thinking, eventually we're going there. The facts, as we get towards more and more toward the end, the facts are going to be so obvious that their criticism of the idea of a future temple, etc in Israel, it's, it's. I actually think many of them are going to go, well, I still want to hold to my symbolic or figurative viewpoint, but it's hard for me to deny what's going on because, and that's one of the things I want to show too is that when you look at these viewpoints that are being criticized of Daniel, a gap of time, they often will make the claim that none of this was taught in church history. And that's just not true. Now I don't get my theology from church history, but I also want to blunt that argument and to show that it's not true. So I'm going to show all the major pillars that we have of dispensational thinking. They are found in church history. And so to me, I'm trying to equip people because many times, many of those in the, again, brothers and sisters, they can be persuasive. And so there's a lot of confusion out there. And I want those to be able to say, oh, I see what they're saying and here's the answer.
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Yeah, I'M certainly looking forward to it. And you can go to prophecywatchers.com and click on the banner there for the, for the live stream or if, like I said, there's still a few tickets left. And I'll be sure to link up to the description of that link in the video below. So check that out. And Mondo, any, any other events you got going on later on this year? You seem like you have a. Something where you're going to be floating on a boat or something.
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Oh, yes. I'm so glad, Joe. Yeah, we're, we are inviting everybody to join us for a prophecy cruise to Alaska. I know a lot of people have that on their bucket list and we've done it before. I think it was a couple years ago. And again, people were asking us if we would do it again. Billy Crone's going to be there. Who? La Marsoli, myself, Lee Brainard, Matt Freeman is going to be there. So there's a handful of us who are going to be there and we invite people to check it out. Again. You can go to prophecywatchers.com and go, go down. You can see how to get information about the cruise. But it's, you know, to me it's, it's one of those things where it's relaxing. We're gonna have a lot of down time. There's gonna be a lot of opportunities for Q A discussions as well as presentations, but also to see the, the beauty of God's creation. Going to Alaska on a ship is actually pretty amazing.
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Absolutely. And that'll be August 22nd through the 29th. And like, like Mondo said, you can get head to prophecywatchers.com to check that out. And look, I just want to thank you so much, Mondo, for answering these questions today. I know that this will be a blessing to many of those that are watching. And, and I just want to thank everybody for tuning in today. You know, if you don't mind, if you could like, and share this video, it really does help, you know, defeat the algorithm and push this information out. And I just want to thank you so much for tuning in. You know, it really does help us glorify the Lord, to reach the loss and to awaken the believer. And until next week, stay awake and keep watching.