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Foreign. I'm here with my elder brother, Gary Stearman. And you know, Gary, you and I have been talking about UFOs, UAPs, since we first met. I don't know, what's that, 15 years ago, 20 years ago, something like that?
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B
20 or 25? I don't.
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A
Yeah, it, it goes back, but it's been great. Yeah, well, it has been. And, and we've, you know, we've been talking about this for, like we said, for at least two decades and we've watched all of this unfold. So the last conversation we had, which was not aired, it was just a private telephone call between the two of us. You raised a very interesting question. Who's piloting these craft? Who's actually inside moving these ships from one place to another? That's really sort of the key question.
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B
Well, humanity has been brainwashed by sci fi. You can go back now to the mid 20th century, the birth of sci fi, and you can see in retrospect how the sci fi was designed to create a certain perception of the universe. That, and we've all read the old sci fi from the 30s and 40s and 50s, and then star Trek came along and then Star wars and Star this and Star that and all of that. Sci fi had one thing in common, that there were cultures all through the universe who came in contact with each other. And some of them were really nasty people, some were nice, some were far advanced over humans and they were trying to help us come up to a new level. But the whole sci fi brainwashing for the last 80 to 90 years has been designed for one thing, to make man think in a way that is really ruins the biblical truth about the universe. And God creating the universe and populating it with angels. And the universe has one thing in mind and that is redemption. Somehow in a way that we don't understand, redemption is highly to be sought for quality. And God has worked very, very hard over a very long time to create that redemption. Meanwhile, the rebels and they're out there, have been fighting God's redemption and trying to destroy it before mankind can be redeemed in the way that God desires. So we have a big, you know, pick up your Bible, you have a big battle of the universe. And it's nothing at all like sci fi because there is one ruling power, one source of creation and growth and the final perfection of this universe, and that is God Almighty. And sci fi overlooks that completely. And sitting here today, what I'm thinking is people who teach the Bible really are teaching against this false model of the universe.
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A
Let me tag onto that. There was a. Steven Spielberg was on with Stephen Colbert a couple of days ago before the last show. And what I found interesting was he repeated the same, exactly what you're saying, repeated the same mantra, oh, the universe is so big and teeming with life. Surely there has to be life somewhere else. So you and I are, we're just chatting here. It's really not a Q and A thing. But what I always defer to is the book of Revelation where it says that a third of the stars go dark. Now how is that done? Who flips that switch So a third of the stars go dark? I mean that, you know, we don't know where we are, we don't know what this is. But I don't believe that there's life, you know, apart from planet Earth. I think this is it. The new Jesus comes here, the new Jerusalem comes here. So the question is, the phenomenon is real. Just today, the government, it's always on a Friday, isn't it interesting? The government released another batch of UFOs which were classified films and statements and all this stuff, it's nothing to write home about. But it's there. They're releasing it and it's there. And the question that you and I were talking about on the phone a while ago is, okay, the craft are there. It's definitely craft. It's moving under intelligent, not design, but under some sort of intelligent force behind this thing. The question is, who is piloting the craft? Who is in these UFOs, UAPs?
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B
Tell you what, when you go through the first few chapters of Genesis and then look at books that have paralleled Genesis down through the ages, chiefly the Book of Enoch which talks about the rebelling angels who came to Earth and they had a goal. They wanted to present themselves as godlike to humanity and they wanted to control humanity and this solar system. I am totally convinced of that. And so the book of Enoch is all about the fallen ones. And there's a real power seeking model. And by the way, when you really think about it, it dominates the Bible. In the beginning, God created the heavens, the earth. There was a rebellion, there was a creation of a new couple. And the new couple, out of the new couple would come the Messiah who would save the earth. That would be the, the seed of the woman which came down to the birth of the Lord Jesus Christ. But the back theory, or the back story line, if you will, if I can use that word with the Bible, is rebellion, continual battles and redemption. And that you go to the end of the Bible, there will be a new heavens and a new earth for the first heaven and earth have passed away.
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A
Yeah.
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B
And so how does that happen?
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A
Yeah, yeah.
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B
And it will be a new heavens and a new earth in a mode that God is working to achieve even as we speak. And this new universe will somehow be eternally redeemed, as I understand it. And that's what all the brouhaha is about. That's what all the sci fi is about. The movies, for example. There was a book that was very popular back in the 50s, sci fi. And the title of the book was Childhood's End.
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A
Yes, I'm familiar with it.
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B
You remember, you're familiar with the book and you know what happens. It's a spaceship that comes to Earth and it radios ahead. It tells Earth people, we'll be here soon. And we are here sort of to bring you a blessing. Well, guess who steps off the platform when the ship lands on Earth? Satan. And in fact, he looks like a dragon. He has a forked tail, and people are shocked. But guess what? He's a really nice guy.
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A
And he said, I'm here to help.
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B
So don't you believe it. But in a way, this is the theory behind virtually every fiction and nonfiction book written in the history of the world. The battle between good and evil and the initial rebellion and the cure for the rebellion in the person of the Lord Jesus Christ. Then a series of wars followed by a new heavens and a new Earth. And if you think along the big panorama, what are we here for? We are here for the glory of God, and we are here to glorify God against a negative intruder. And that's the theory behind virtually everything. When you take your first step on Earth, you step into that pattern and you spend your whole life dealing with deception of all sorts, with what the Bible just labels as sin. And all of that is what powers the sci fi motif that we're all seeing now. And back to those strange things that fly in the sky. Abduction. Let's just talk about abduction. And you've written about this and you've interviewed people who have been abducted. And there have been some very famous people with famous stories who have been abducted, taken aboard one of those crazy UFOs placed upon something like an operating table and operated upon by these creatures who are very unpleasant creatures, by the way. They are nothing like angels, which leads me to believe that they are devils, demons, they are the rebels. And they are performing some kind of background operational motif in which they're trying to modify human beings so that the human beings will follow them. That's the most I can make out of it. And you're welcome to jump in here and tell me what you think they're doing. But this is the background of the Angelic Wars. There are two factions. The faction of God, the faction of Satan. And when you read the book, you get to the end, you understand that Satan and his followers are cast into the eternal pit and there is a new heavens and a new earth. But now here's. I think this is why we're sitting here, Ally. And that is how do you convey this to a public that's largely ignorant?
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A
And, yeah, even pastors will touch the subject. We did like a little survey here. Two of my friends go to two different churches and I said, this is on. So May 8th is when we got our first dump, by the way, today. What is today's date? The 21st, I think. Yeah, hold on. Yeah, the 22nd. And we had another dump today, but on May 8th, we had our first UFO dump from the government. And so I called my two friends and go, hey, when you go to church, see if the pastors say anything about May 8th. So Friday, May 8th is the UFO dump from the government. And now the 10th. Both of these guys go to two different churches. The pastor never mentioned a word about it. And this is what's really problematic, that a lot of pastors, many pastors, I should say, won't even touch the subject. And this is why they avoid this to their own peril, because they're not warning the people of this whole dynamic. Steven Spielberg's film will come out on the 12th of June. Millions and millions of people will see this and they will be indoctrinated into a certain paradigm. I want to get your thoughts on this. And I've been. I got this from our friend Mondo, your co host, and he pointed me to 1 Timothy, chapter 4. Because there's been a lot of scuttlebutt about the Thessalonians. I actually wrote an article about it for Prophecy Watchers magazine where, you know, there's basically like three or four different positions a person can take. With the idea of the apostasia that we read about in 1 Thessalonians, is it a rapture? Tommy Ice would say, yes, we're gonna go up. Apostasia means we're gonna go up. Other people will say, no, it's a great falling away. I know Mondo believes, and I don't wanna take this too far outta context, that it all has to do with Israel. I believe that the apostasy is a great falling away. And the reason I say this, and I got this again from Mondo, your co host, when we go to 1 Timothy, chapter 4, the Spirit expressly states, in the latter days some will depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and the doctrine of demons. I mean, it's right there and it's glaring at us and it clears everything up. First of all, there is no once saved, always saved thing because some depart from the faith. That blows that concept right out of the theological waters. So if some will depart from the faith, what would cause them to do that? Well, the Bible tells us the seducing spirits, the doctrine of demons. The question is you and I, not the question, but you and I both believe, and I'll use your phrase here, interdimensional raiders. This is exactly what we see, these interdimensional raiders coming in. And you mentioned the abduction phenomena where they take people and you're on the table. They take sperm from the man over from the woman in the most sadistic way possible. How do we know this? From the abductees. So all this is. We're here. I mean, we are in an unprecedented time in all of history. We are here. It is happening.
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B
And as of May 8th of this year, what I think of as grade A propaganda is about to be launched upon an unsuspecting humanity.
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A
I agree.
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B
And the UFO secrets are going to be revealed, of course, in the proper order at the proper time, and dribs and drabs here and there to create what they want you to believe. But you know, you mentioned the Bible a minute ago. I think it was First Timothy. Yeah, Chapter four and first Timothy, Chapter four is amazing when you really look at it. It says, and I'm going to pull my Bible up here. Now, the Spirit speak of expressly, that would be the Holy Spirit. And let me just say for a minute that when we're talking about all of this dark stuff, the main figure and the figure of whom we rarely speak of is the Holy Spirit. And he has dominance over all of these fallen, rebellious spirits. And the Spirit speaketh expressly that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. And so when we're talking about the UFO phenomenon, we're talking about doctrines of devils, essentially. And think about the, think about the books and movies on UFO abduction. What happens? Well, you get taken aboard a ufo, you find yourself strapped to a table with Bright lights in your face and they're doing something to your body. They keep you for a while and then they dump you in some pasture somewhere. So what did they do? In my opinion, they are creating a huge strain of humanity that they can control. They're doing a what for them is more than an experiment. They seem to know what they're doing and they seem to know that under certain conditions they can pick up a human, take a few cellular samples, and then build something like a human for their own use. Later on down the line, those pseudo humans are going to come out and greet us and we're going to think, oh, here they are, we're saved. Our fellow creatures from another galaxy are here to save us. And by the way, we do need saving. Secular man is looking for salvation in all the wrong places. And in my opinion, according to the prophecies of the New Testament, particularly Revelation, there will come a time when the evil ones step out and they will be accepted by humanity. It's kind of a turn on the old Star Wars, Star Trek, Star this and Star that. I've got a list here that I made before I sat down. These are the titles of sci fi books and there are hundreds of sci fi books and hundreds of books written on the UFO phenomenon. Here's one called the Dragon and the Disc. Here's another one. UFOs and abductions. Another one, UFOs and giants. Another one. An Alien Harvest. Another one, Gods from Outer Space. Oh, there's a good one. Close Encounters, Chariots of the Gods. And you're familiar with virtually all of these, I'm sure.
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Absolutely.
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B
How about Whitley Strieber, Transformation and Communion? Those are revolutionary books. And they essentially planted the idea that there is a super knowledgeable and, and very powerful group of people just behind the scenes that are here to help humanity rise to the next level of, of perfection. And they're taking their sweet time doing it. And that's why we, we have all of these strange, you know, lights in the sky and weird things that never manifest. How about one called Communion? Here, here's a good one. UFOs and the alien Agenda. What is the alien agenda? Here's one called Intruders. This is a big one. Dr. Jacobs walking among Us. That's the title of his book. You've read the book, I'm sure?
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Yeah, my library. Absolutely.
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And you're very familiar with why am I reading these titles? Well, if you just sort of melt these titles together, they all say the same thing. There is a superior group of individuals and we know Very little about them. They're beginning to show themselves. There's this group of individuals who are here and almost invariably people are thinking they are here to take us to the next level of civilization, which is a demonic lie of the first sort. And so when you asked me a minute ago, what do I think about the word that's coming out from the government? Pure propaganda.
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A
Well, it is. And the bottom line is we keep going up and I'll shameless plug here. But the rungs of Disclosure, which folks by the way, this morning it hit number one on Amazon in its category, which is.
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B
Congratulations.
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A
Yeah, thank you. That's never happened to any of my stuff. And obviously the Lord has raised this book up, you know, glory to the king. And people need to read. It also runs of disclosure.com interactive website. But what we see here, this is, you know, this is a label that I came up with in the late 90s or the mid-90s, the coming great deception. The idea, and I got this from the strong delusion that we read about in First Thessalonians. So you know, it ties back into the first Timothy verse chapter four, which we just read. You know, some will depart from the faith. And then you tie in Jesus's words, even the elect would be deceived if that were possible. Men faint from fear from his coming upon the earth. And you know, I've said this over and over and over again and I just gotta keep banging that drum till the light bulb goes off in people's heads because this is, it's going to happen. And what's interesting here is right now all we're seeing is film from the government fuzzy film of UAPs UFOs streaking across the sky like that. But there's really no, really up close photographs where you see something like this. We're not getting that at all. That's why Art Gorgaz film with the Watchers is so incredible because. And I'll just show you what that looks like. And Gary, you know what I'm talking about. There it is.
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B
Oh, I do, yeah.
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A
Taken by the late Dr. Roger Lear. There's the Kumburgaz UFO. And we're actually going to do a, a, a show on this. There's a woman I've been working with, her name is Deborah Dev. And what she did is she took the Kumburgaz UFO still and then put some filters on it and guess who pops up in that cockpit. So I'll show it to you again. You can see that there's two entities right there. Oh yes, right in the cockpit.
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B
Well, a very, very famous shot of a hovering ufo.
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I mean there it is. And what we did with what Dev did is she actually showed with filters and you can see the grays with the big black eyes. I mean they're there. So the thing is, with all this information rolling out from the government, notice that they have not shown up, they have not shown themselves. There's not a mile wide UFO parked over Manhattan. We don't see that. Or over Paris or over Japan or over some little obscure diner in West Texas. And the reason why I use those cities because in the 2024 Super bowl commercial, hello down there, there's a, they start in New York, they go to Paris, France with, you know, the Eiffel Tower, they go over to a little diner in West Texas and finally Japan. What they're signaling is that these UFOs manifesting is a global event. And I agree, it will be a global event. And that is the game changer that will cause millions of people to just abandon whatever faith they have and believe in the Space Brothers.
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B
Indeed. And I think man is being taken to a the breaking point right now. We see it emerging. There is a vast conspiracy on a global level now. A real fight for the final power. And we've seen all the pomp and the ceremony and the circumstance and Xi Jinping and Donald Trump and all the leaders of Europe and people are sitting down with each other and talking about moving humanity to the next level. To me, humanity is cocked and primed and perfectly ready for what we read just a moment ago. First Timothy, chapter four, the very end of verse one says, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. That exactly describes where we are.
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A
And what bothers me is that the church, I mean it's there. You know, people will say, well, let's just talk. I just want to do Jesus only. I'm really not interested in politics or any of this stuff, just Jesus only. And there's a whole group of, there's a whole movement within the Christian church that goes in that direction. The problem is if we just do Jesus only, and we've already kind of touched on this, so why would Jesus warn us that even the elect would be deceived? Why would he say, men faint from coming, men think for fearful is coming upon the earth. Why would he point back to the days of Noah? Why would Paul admonish us that the dragon Satan comes with all signs of lying wonders? And then finally one Timothy, the Spirit, the Holy Spirit expressly states in the latter days. And we are here because Israel is back in the land and Israel is God's prophetic time clock. No doubt about that. People even argue about that. Much of a church doesn't even look at prophecy. That's why, you know, Prophecy Watchers is, is so important because it focuses on the prophetic word and so much of it is about to be fulfilled. So you add all that, those statements, Jesus only right from the Bible, something is coming. We're being warned that something is coming. Jesus is warning us men will faint from fear for what is coming upon the earth. He's warning us it'll be like the days of Noah. He's warning us that even the elect would be deceived if that were possible. And yet the church, for the most part, and I'm speaking very broadly, painting the very broad brush here, but most of a church won't even touch the subject. And yet it's being rolled out. It's not going away. And, you know, going back to Spielberg's film, that is going to indoctrinate millions and millions of people. No doubt.
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Here's a very important element in all this. The church, which is supposed to be the vanguard, the watcher. The church is supposed to stabilize society and bring it to a higher level rather than a lower level. But the church is misinterpreting that phrase. Days of Noah, as it was in the days of Noah. Go back and look for a minute and see just how it was in the days of Noah. And you have intruders from on high, exactly as we have today. And that's exactly what's going on, you know, and so shall it be in the days of the coming of the Son of Man. Praise the Lord.
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A
I, I can't wait right here with you. Can't wait. Enough of this stuff.
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B
So this all goes together. In other words, the idea of a rebellion at the angelic level is coming around again for the second time. And this time it's going to bring about what's called the Great Tribulation. And everybody knows what the Great Tribulation is, at least to some degree. And have you ever read the Great Tribulation? Just open your Bible sometime and look at Revelation and you say to yourself, what can this happen? Good heavens, can this happen? And just shock after shock after shock, strange beings invading the earth. And you've read it? I've read it. And if it weren't for the fact that was in the Bible, you'd say this is science fiction.
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A
Yeah. When you read the book of Revelation, it's beyond science fiction. And the church is not here. We're taken out because we're not appointed the wrath. But this thing is coming down. I mean, it really is. And there's so many people that, that those with an amillennial view of scripture. It's all allegory. It really doesn't matter. Israel can come in and out of a lamb a thousand times. None of that means anything. Prophecy. Well, it's allegorical. We can't possibly. That doesn't mean anything and that's really dangerous. And so much of a church is amillennial, which is why you never hear a word about prophecy. But then we know from the prophetic word that the Messiah will be born in Bethlehem, right? The Messiah will go down to Egypt. Messiah will be crucified with thieves in his death and then in his burial in a rich man's tomb. And this is all prophetic word, you know, the virgin will be with child. I mean, it just goes on and on and on about Messiah. All the prophecies. Amos 9, 14 and 15. I will bring back the captives of my people Israel. They will build the way cities that inhabit them. They will plant vineyards and drink the wine from them. They will also plant gardens and eat the fruit from them. I will plant them in their lamb and never again will they be plucked up out of a lamb I have given them. So the Amalem. Well, that's already happened. That's already happened. The Babylonian captivity, when they came back. No, because that last line is telling. I will plant them in their land and never again will they be plucked up out of the lamb I have given them. Israel is God's prophetic time clock. They are planted back in Milan, May 14, 1948. End of story. And if they're kicked out of the land, if they're plucked out of what's known as Israel today, then I can't follow the God of the Bible. But you know what? They're never gonna leave that territory. And sometime when the Lord comes back and his feet touch the Mount of Olives, this is literal, folks. This is prophecy. And that Mount of Olives splits in two. And they Israel will look on Jesus Yeshua and mourn for him as an only son. That's future. That's prophecy. So it's all what's amazing about this in our Bibles. It's there, it's spelled out, but you've gotta dig into it. You just can't, you know, go to church once a year or read a chapter once a year. And think a person has to be a student of the biblical prophetic narrative. But then it opens up.
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B
It opens up, you know, L. A in church we talk about fallen angels and we talk about demons, devils, they're in scripture by name. And if you read scripture closely, it's not long before you begin to understand that there is a battle in the heavens and that Christians are part of that battle. And in fact, we're fighting the earthly part of it among humans. But just beyond our sight is the big one, the fallen angels and the good angels doing things that we hardly understand, except for one thing now which has become very important to Christians, and that is, what are these UFO things that are flying around? And Ella, you've done a yeoman work when it comes to helping us understand what those things are. But what they are is part of the, shall we say, the advanced guard. They are strengthening themselves for the coming tribulation. They are ready for battle. The angels are ready for battle. And one of these days we're going to turn the page in the Bible and there it is. The first seal will be opened. And of course, we won't be on earth when that happens because we believe in the wonderful, wonderful promise of God in which we will be lifted up on high in a millisecond. There he goes. And I guess what you and I are doing is reminding everybody, hey, the UFO story of the last hundred years on planet Earth, the UFO story which really got underway right after World War II. Yeah, there was a bit of it showing back around the turn of the 20th century, but it didn't really take off until 1948, 49, 50 Roswell. And that, I think, began the countdown to the rapture of the church. And it's also beginning to camp the countdown to the great demonic rebellion that is depicted in the Bible. And if you want to know about that, read Revelation. Just sit down some night, a quiet room, and just read the book of Revelation. And with the leading of the Lord, you're going to see the big picture. And la, aren't we waiting for this with just incredible impatience. I mean, you and I have talked about this for years, and those who believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and have studied his word understand that rescue is coming. It's going to be a rescue unlike anything we've ever seen before.
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A
I'm going to read you something, and I know you know where I'm going with this. This is a tract that we give out to people who buy anything in our store. He is giving this information through either automatic Writing or voice to skull. Listen what it says. We are here. We are the Pleiadians. Humanity is learning a great lesson at this time. The lesson is of course to realize your godhood. If human beings do not change, if they do not make the shift in values and realize that without Earth they wouldn't be here, then Earth in its love for its own initiation is reaching for a higher frequency will bring about a cleansing that would balance it once again. What is this cleansing? Here we go. They're explaining the rapture of the church and here it is. There is a potential for many people to leave the planet in an afternoon. The people who leave the planet during the time of Earth changes do not fit here any longer and they are stopping the harmony of the earth. I might make a mess up. This is years ago. This is channeled information from. This is in my opinion, and I'm not trying to disparage the author, but in my opinion, this is the doctrine of demons. This is seducing spirits. And they have explained away the rapture of the church because the cleansing because we don't fit here any longer. I mean, I'm not making this up. I think it's soon, Gary, I really do. I'm not a date setter, but more than likely next Wednesday. Of course I say that tongue in cheek, but it's coming.
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B
We talk about day setting. Tongue in cheek, but la, I think what we're going through right now is worth watching. And that is a new level of sci fi. The sci fi world has left the Captain, Kirk and Spock and it's now up to beyond the next galaxy level, to beyond the next dimension level, where it speaks of creatures coming out of one dimension into our dimension and interacting with man, which by the way is depicted in the Bible. In other words, sci fi is a kind of a brainwashing device that non believers use to bring the right thinking pattern to humanity. In other words, we need to teach these people what is and what is not right. And that's what sci fi does.
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That brings us back full circle to we're being programmed, we're being set up for something. The great deception. Because when they show up, everything is gonna change. Gary, it's always great to see you. We gotta do this more often because time is short and things are happening so quickly that it's hard to keep up with.
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B
Always a pleasure to talk to you and just, you know my phone number.
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I certainly do. That's it for today, folks. UFOs are real burgeoning. It just hit number one today and its category, we're blown away. 1, 2, and 4. It's, you know, we're just blown away by what the Lord's doing. Rungs of Disclosure is also an interactive website. Rungsofdisclosure.com rungsofdisclosure.Com and if you want to do a deep dive in, get Gary's book, Time Travelers of the Bible. That'll blow your mind. Time Travelers of the Bible. You can go to prophecywatchers.com and order it from there.