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The Week in Bible Prophecy, a Prophecy Watchers Podcast. Hello everyone, Mondo Gonzalez here in studio. Lots going on today in our world and I have with us Ken Michael. We're going to talk to Ken about his recent trip to New Zealand and also to really talk about all the things that are happening. But up first, I just want to remind everybody about a couple things, is that many of you are asking about our prophecy cruise. If you ever wanted to go to Alaska and see the beautiful creation that God has had, the glaciers and everything else there, this is going to be our second time where we have a prophecy cruise at sea and get to see all of God's creation. And that is going to be August 22nd, 29th. Ken is actually going to be there with us as well, Billy Crone, myself, Matt Freeman, La Marsuli and Lee Brainard. So we got a good group that are going to be out there hanging out and fellowshipping as we look around. Also want to remind everybody about our upcoming conference in Colorado Springs, June 4th through 7th of this year. It's going to be a great time. One of my favorite places to be actually in June. Good weather, it's beautiful and you can stick around and visit Colorado. If you can't join us in person, we just remind everybody that you can join us through livestream that is going to be available very, very soon if it's not already available. If you go to prophecywatchers.com you can find information both about the Alaska Prophecy Cruise as well as the Rapture in the Rockies Prophecy Conference. And Ken is going to be there.
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So welcome, Ken Mano, it's always good to be with you.
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For those that don't know, Ken has joined Prophecy Watchers and he's certainly been speaking at our conferences for many. Ken and I have had the privilege to really share the gospel around the world, Europe and Australia and in Japan and other places. And it's been great. So recently Ken has joined us as of March and he's going to be probably doing certainly more than I will being our traveling evangelist around the country. But also I'll have an opportunity to join him in a few international trips. But Ken is going to be at our at our conference in June. So maybe if you don't mind, before we get into a report about New Zealand, maybe give us an update about what you're going to be talking about in June.
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Yeah, I'm really going to try and cover the revolution that's going on in this country and some past history of how these get started up, what it takes to culminate one of these. And when I talk to people, and I don't know about you, Mondo, but I'll ask them, hey, what do you think's going on in the country? Do you think we're like, we're going to see a revolution? They go, yeah, you know, it's possible, but if we just get the right political person in there, if we just get. You know, many of them say, if we just get the Republican Party to step up, we can take care of this thing. And I saying, well, in case you haven't noticed, we're in the middle of one right now. And it's just at the beginning of. Of it becoming violent to where you're gonna see if it stays on this trajectory, I honestly believe we're gonna see fighting in the streets. We already are seeing a lot of violence in our streets. You guys just had an incident in Oklahoma City, where I'm from, Minneapolis. It happens almost daily. There's almost a mass shooting almost daily. So I think we're at a very dangerous point in our country where if the church especially does not step up and start acting instead of just being observers. Right. For the most part, the church has observed, yeah, they know all the problems, they know all the issues that are going on, but they're not doing anything. And I think we should talk about some of the things that they can do. That's certainly what I want to talk about at the conference.
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You know, on that note, you know, we look around, and certainly you can't get more violent than several assassination attempts on the President of the United States. Right. And then, of course, you see a lot of people responding how disappointed they were that those attempts were unsuccessful. And the other thing, though, is, what do you think as we approach, you know, 2026? It's interesting. I think, like, there's a certain level of people are holding their breath either side, I imagine, because you hear, oh, man, there's massive. A blue wave coming. And then recently, they're like, you know, that blue wave is not looking like a blue wave for. For a variety of reasons. But if. If there was a. A disruption or whatever, I guess I'll say it this way. Whatever the results of the election, do you see how would that go? Certainly, if Republicans maintain or increase the majority, and maybe we can talk and bring in some of the gerrymandering that's been happening by all of the states, regardless, blue state, red state, because the Supreme Court has ruled against racial gerrymandering. But if it's not racial They've agreed that it's fine. It's up to the state. The state can do what they want. They can. They can make their. Their districts how they want. And where I'm hearing 20, 30 plus Republican gains. So what does that do for the situation?
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So let's look at it from both angles. It let's say, for example, the right does hold some power or gain seats in the House. I don't know if they will in the Senate or not, but I think that's going to be an uptick in the violence that you're seeing, because the hatred for this administration particularly. We've already seen three assassination attempts. I don't see them stopping. In fact, I see it becoming more violent. And it's just going to make them angrier. And with all the stuff we're seeing online and the rhetoric that's going on out there, and it's not just the left, you're looking at some very powerful voices on the right now coming against this administration. So I think you're going to see an uptick in violence there. If the pen pendulum swings back the other way, which eventually it will, we have to be prepared for that. Because the next time they hold power, we don't even have to guess what they're going to do. They're telling us what they're going to do. They're going to bring to justice all the wrongs that they feel have been committed by those on the right. And my concern is for the church because we saw what happened during COVID and some of these where they came after Christian organizations. And we know the FBI was spying on some people in the Catholic Church. They were arresting people that were just praying outside of abortion clinics. So you're going to see that on steroids. They're going to come after everyone. And I think the next time the pendulum swings, you're going to see them start. The persecution of the church, which the Bible talks about, is going to be in full display. And we don't have to look very far to see that. We have friends in Canada that are already being persecuted for speaking out on biblical issues. You know, the issues that they're doing against children, the transgender movement, the sexual mutilation of our children, let alone abortion and all these other issues. So it's going to be full on. And I pray that we can hold on a little while longer so that we can get the gospel out there. That's the main thing. The longer that we can sustain what we have now and even maybe improve it a little bit. With some of our leaders. And we need Christians. We need leaders to stand up and say, you know what, maybe this is my time. What is your will? Lord, Send me and maybe take a step into some political offices. And that starts locally, by the way. We can't do a whole lot nationally except maybe, you know, elect a president. But I always tell people, look at your community first. Who's in your city council? Do you know, do you even know the names of them? Do you know the names of your county board, the name of your sheriff? That's huge. So all of these political appointments locally are going to affect you directly. So if we don't get involved as followers of Jesus Christ, and my message also is going to be to pastors, too many pastors are being silent on this. It is time. If you're a follower of Christ and you're a pastor or shepherd of your church, you need to step up and speak out and activate your followers to get them involved.
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Yeah, 100%. It's interesting, too, because if you want to know, any of us, if we want to know what the. If the left had the power of the House again, what. What does it look like? Well, it'll look like what it was two years ago. I mean, these constant, you know, attempts for lawfare. And it's interesting to me that how the. It's not even so much that I think the Republicans are using lawfare. They're just trying to hold people accountable that we're using lawfare, you know, so it's like, wow.
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Yeah, exactly. What they're doing is what they're accusing the right of doing. It's such hypocrisy. I've never seen it. And then when you have a media that goes along with it, we're witnessing a huge psyop right now. This psychological operation that's going on is full on. And there's not enough on the other side actually telling the truth. And that's what we need to do as followers of Christ. We need to get out there with the truth.
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Yeah, yeah, exactly. 100%. And, you know, you. You talked about the. The difficulty and the challenges, and certainly, you know, we have brothers and sisters in the remnant who, you know, who, who live in Portland or they live in Minneapolis. You know, you knew, you live near there and a lot of the blue states. But one of the other things that, that I, I want to get your update on before we. To go to some other, you know, world events, is you just got back from New Zealand. You know, our brothers and sisters down There. And, and of course, this was a great opportunity, or first opportunity to represent prophecy watchers down there. I wasn't able to go this time and talk about how that went because, I mean, we love them. We, we've got to. I've been there, well three times now and got to spend time with all of them. Missed this one, but the, that the remnant is strong down there. Small. That's the definition of a remnant. They have it very tough if people remember what Covid was like, or even Australia as well. Talk about the trip.
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Well, Mondo, you missed a good one. Wendy May did a fabulous job. You know her, she just worked her tail off. And really her and her team put together just a fabulous conference from beginning to end. And it was not only the most attended conference we've had out there, but what happened is, and you know this, there are no churches out there. There are very, very few. We were in one, thankfully, that was solid and allowed us to come in. But what we're seeing is, you know, a few years ago we suggested, hey, there are no churches here. You're going to have to start your own. Which they have done. And it's amazing. What starts out as 10, 12 people now is 25, 30, 50 people. And these people brought their friends and family that have never these messages before. So it was amazing. I mean, we talked to people that had so many questions. It was like when we first started this, you know, 10 years ago, people would come up and they'd have all these questions. Well, now they're bringing their family and friends in and we, we sat and talked and I mean, for hours with people about what's going on, how does it relate to the Bible? So we had almost 500 people there, and it was just an amazing day. Billy Crone was there, Lee Brainard, Brandon Holthouse and myself. And it was just a full day of fellowship and teaching and getting to see some old friends and meet some new friends. So it was, it was an amazing time. And then, of course, you missed the farm experience that we had last year, which was just absolutely fantastic. We had about 20 people come and we just had dinner and fellowship and talking to some that were new believers there, and it was amazing. I, I couldn't have asked for anything better.
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Yeah, one of the things that, that we've tried to do is, you know, all of us, all of those guys that have been privileged to travel, you know, we've done, we've gone to Europe, as I said earlier, gone into Japan and, and other places, and it's Been this got. We have another trip coming up in, in October where we're going to be going to some new places, Belgium and, and we're going to go back to Germany as well as Austria and then into northwest Italy. You know we've been to Scotland, we've been to England, it's been even in Northern Ireland. It's been, it's been fascinating. But one of the things that we've tried to do is because the church is so small or non existent, it's one thing, we talk about this often where you have. It's one thing to have a church that's an evangelical church that preaches the gospel, that's tough enough. But then to find a solid evangelical church that is teaching the gospel plus is teaching prophecy or helping to equip the saints to be awake and to be ready as Jesus said, that's even more non existent. So one of the things that we've tried to do is to encourage them to start a small group to, to, to they can. We have plenty of teaching no doubt online but the key thing in all of it is fellowship and for them to get together to love one another and to fellowship with one another and of course teachings available and we've, we've kind of stirred them. You guys can do this. You guys can do this. And it really is kind of put a shot in the arm for the church and this particular one was in Auckland in the north part of the north islands. Ken, was there any discussions of conference next year?
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Yeah, in fact they're probably planning it right now. I know Wendy May was, was exhausted but I got to believe she's going to start up here shortly trying to get, she did an amazing job in it to put these on like this. It takes almost a full year as well, you know that what it takes to put on a conference. There's a lot of planning, there's a lot of people that need to come together and just to get the word out. And like I said, this was the most well attended conference that we've had out there. So pray Lord willing, if we're alive and here next year that we'll all get to go out there and it'll be even bigger.
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You mentioned before we went on air that you know there was opportunities for again new people, friends to come and the gospel again was presented and there was a dozen or so people that gave their lives to Christ. I mean to me that's why we do what we do to see people come into the kingdom and be rescued out of the Kingdom of darkness.
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Yeah, absolutely. And I had a chance to talk to a couple of those that just gave their life to Christ. And I mean, that makes the whole trip, you know, that it's wonderful to teach and to see some old friends, but, man, when you're talking to a new believer, there's nothing better. I mean, you can just see, it's like the scales are taken off and now they can see, oh, yeah, now I get it. Now I see why this is all happening. And even those, you know, there's a lot of charismatics over there and to explain to them, you know, why some of this is happening. I had a. I had a young lady come up to me and said, you know, you're telling us to get involved in this, but, you know, I'm at home, I've got a family, my husband works. The Lord's going to do his will. So I'm not worried about it. And I'm thinking, yeah, but, you know, what are they teaching your children? If it's anything like America, they're teaching them all of this, you know, Marxism, socialism, dei, trans ideology. And we know that that's going to harm your children. So if you don't get involved in your community, in your surrounding areas, this is going to come to you. So. Absolutely. So you get a lot of that where it's like, oh, the Lord's going to do what he's going to do anyway, so I can just sit back and watch. Well, no, that is not the answer. We're to be salt and light. And we're, like you said, we're to attack kingdom of darkness and bring those who need to. Who need answers into the kingdom of light.
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Absolutely. And, you know, I want to ask you about some other things, but for those of you that are again, looking for maybe a conference and, and would love to have somebody come speak, email Ken, you know, Ken prophecywatchers.com and you can reach out to him and work on some of the logistics of what that looks like, because again, every place is different. There's a lot of regional conferences, and Ken has been speaking at churches for the last few years, many years now, and so very good at it. Want to just encourage you to reach out to him. And I'm sure in some of those, both Ken and myself can come out and join. We've certainly partnered not only internationally, but domestically as well as the schedule allows. But, you know, Ken, in general, here we are. I mean, we're approaching now the. The midpoint of 2026. We're in May and it's amazing how things are going. What are. Let's talk about a couple things that maybe you're seeing with the trends, you know, you've been watching for a while now, for several years. So have I, in the sense that we've been on the scene. What do you see? What's, what's some of the big things you're seeing right now?
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I think one of the biggest things is if you disagree with someone, you cannot have a conversation with them. Now you're immediately deemed as a fascist. So, you know, the fascists are calling the other side fascists, which is, like I said, it's the epitome of hypocrisy. But what we're seeing now is, okay, you're deemed to not agree with me, therefore I have the right to be either violent and, or kill you. And that's what we're seeing right now. And you've seen it online, you mentioned it earlier, the stuff I'm reading online, they have no problem with hurting and, or killing someone. And when you read these comments, you just sit back and go, I remember my parents talking about it in the 60s when that happened. But I think it was never okay. You had activists that would do this, but it was never okay on the right or the left. Now it's are even our politicians are using language that incites this. And we saw that. I saw this in Minnesota. I couldn't believe what our governor was saying out loud. Do you go out there and you get in their face without saying, you know, you get violent? Well, you're always going to have the extremists out there. You've got the rent a rioters that come in and of course it's going to get violent. So we're seeing it on the left, at least where it is okay to be violent. And they rarely do they speak out against this on the left. And so this is going to become normal. You criticize and chastise someone long enough, especially with the way social media is now in the news, it becomes normal. It becomes okay, yeah, you know, what if, if Trump or anyone in his administration were assassinated, just like Charlie Kirk, you'd see Cheers online. So that's where we're at. Like I said earlier, we are at a dangerous point. I don't know if we can turn it around or not, but I think we need to try. We need to get involved and we need to get active and we need to do it now. There is no more sitting back and watching anymore. The church needs to get involved in this and even good standing people that consider themselves conservatives need to get involved in this or this is going to go south very quickly. It already is.
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Oh, man. Yeah, absolutely. And the rhetoric, the rhetoric where we know is, is there and what are we seeing? It's interesting that there's been a. I was listening to the radio yesterday where somebody was, had just written a book. This person was a therapist, PhD therapist, and they were talking about Trump derangement syndrome and that it's actual real syndrome now that this person is again, has clients who, their entire world is turned upside down, that they can't live, they can't sleep, they can't live normal lives because they go to bed thinking about all these things. And interestingly, what he said is that you see a lot of people who have become, you know, mentally disturbed, and the rhetoric is feeding them, no doubt through social media. But secondly, those that don't have the mental faculties to discern social cues or social right and wrong, they end up becoming these people that are seeking to, like this latest thing at the White House or at the correspondence dinner we have. But these are, these are people who are relatively smart, but they're, they're just off just a hair. And they're able to be inflamed from the rhetoric of, like you said, Waltz and others, Tim Waltz, you know, encouraging. I mean, there's no doubt that people are encouraging to go out there and to, to take things into their hand. As we see Comey, you know, poetic justice is coming on Comey, where, you know, x86 47 and trying to deny it. And he's playing, he's, he's crying victimhood now. You're like, dude, you're, you're, you're, you're held accountable. That's what I see here is you are held accountable. And what, what a. Again, what a poetic justice.
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Yeah, they want to hold people accountable on the right for things they made up, but yet for the things they did, they don't want to hold them accountable for. So what I would encourage our listeners to do is go back and take a look at history, because we can learn a lot from it. We all know that if we don't change, we're doomed to repeat history. And most people don't know their history. And when they look at the things that are happening now, like you said, they just look online and repost things that aren't even true. For example, most people don't know the history about our current president. His mom immigrated here from Scotland, came over on the boat traveled 11 days, got off on Ellis island, and she met her sister, and she was a maid for the first several years she was here. And then she met the president's husband. Donald Trump's her husband. He immigrated from Germany. And so they made their own and they had, you know, I think they had five or six children. And one of them ended up becoming, you know, real estate tycoon, basically built the skyline of New York and then went on to become the 45th, 47th president. So most people don't know that. They just hear that he's a fascist, that he's a king, that he's an extremist, and they don't even know the background of where most of these people have come from. So I would encourage our, our listeners to really look at history, look at what happened during the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, the War of 1812, and look at where we're at right now. Go back and look at the Bible and look at what happened in the days of Noah, and that should really open your eyes as to what's happening right now.
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Yeah, I find it fascinating that, you know, we've seen a couple different iterations of the note of a no kings march or whatever. And, and I'm sitting there and I, I puzzle because I think here if we, sadly, it's like, what is the definition of a king? This is a guy that can't even get anything passed in the Congress because of the stamina. We can't even, we can't even clear the budget for DHS or, you know, any of those things because of a, of a, of a checks and balances government. So that, that's the opposite of a king. And so as much as he's trying, he's being thwarted. He's being thwarted whether it's by the Supreme Court, which again, that would be legitimate. That's part of the, of the checks and balances of our, of our government. Or, or they're getting, think about it there. He's getting checked. The things that he wants to do are getting thwarted by one, by the minority, by the minority of the, either the House of Representatives or even in this case, the minority in the Senate. That's the opposite of a kings. But again, it fits into the pattern that unfortunately, many people allow themselves. They get sucked in. You know, I say it a nice way, but either either they're, they're gullible or they want to hear what they want to hear, and they just say, oh, he's a king. He's a king. He's A king. It's like, have you not. Do you not even. Have you not looked at the facts and the data here? Because it's clearly not the case in any rational way of thinking. Yeah.
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Or even worse, he's being thwarted by just a few liberal federal judges that aren't following what the Supreme Court has already handed down. That's even worse. So, like I said, we are in a very precarious state in our nation and we need to wake up and we need to act. We can't just. It's one thing I tell this, if you're just sitting in church and listening to a good sermon and then you leave and go out and do your business all week and then come back next Sunday, you're missing it. And the same goes, if you want your community to change, your state, to change, your federal government to change, you're going to have to get involved. You're going to have to do something. At least get your community, get your church, get your pastor involved in this. I look at a few churches around the country. You know, Jack Hibbs comes to mind. They're active, actively involved in their community. They're actively involved in politics because these political issues affect the church. And we need to wake up to that fact or we're going to start being persecuted in ways we've never seen before here in America. And all we have to do is look to the north of Canada. You and I have been to Europe. We've seen it. I don't see how Europe recovers from this. It is, yeah, they are in a really bad situation. In fact, what we're hearing is they're on the brink of a civil, violent, physical civil war.
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Well, and already you see the capitulation or the passivity where, as we know, especially in the UK you have a variety of, of migrant groups, Somalis and others and Afghans that are participating in, in different rapes and other things of the culture. And, and there's been a kind of a, of a squashing of investigation. You know, you look at Sweden, Sweden, that they've come to realize, man, we're losing our culture. Germany now, most of the countries now because of Trump, because of the, Again, love them or not, that's irrelevant. But the fact that he has been super active in basically guarding the borders. I mean, they're. Now they're talking about where there has been zero. Like, think about that. Zero crossings, zero arrests, which is unheard of. But the cut. The people in many of the, the countries in Europe are realizing, well, we're glad that he did that because now we feel justified in the same way that he kind of led the charge in order to embrace, it's not wrong to embrace your own culture and, and know that there's a historical, you know, again, Scandinavian culture that's not, you know, seventh century Arab culture. And, and you know, there's, every culture has its own, there's value and there's beauty in all of them. But don't come here if you're going to come here. You're embracing our culture. Not, you're not, we're not stay. If you want to keep your own Arab cultures, we'll stay in Arabia or stayed in some of the other countries. But let me ask you this, what we're watching. Let's give a little update on what's happening in the Middle East. Again going back to some of the geopolitics with Iran and with Israel and some of the things that Trump is doing. What are you, what are you seeing lately?
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Yeah, well, obviously our navy is over there and they're now guiding ships through the Strait of Hormuz, which is, which is good. Somehow Iran is still getting boats out there. I know that a couple of boats have been of the oil tankers have been attacked. This is going to be difficult to solve because the mullahs don't care about their people. They don't want a deal. All right. They want war because they know, and you and I know this, that their belief is that if we have this all out war, they're going to bring the Mahdi back in and that's going to bring the second coming and so political Islam. And that's if you look at it all over Europe and now here in America, they're not here to assimilate. When I talk to people over when we were in the UK there's like over 600 no go zones where you and I couldn't go in. They have Sharia courts over there and we're seeing in Texas right now they want to do the same thing. They're trying to take over Texas. So this isn't just in the Middle east. This is a global threat that we're dealing with right now. But getting back to your question about Iran, that's going to be a difficult one without putting troops on the ground because at some point if they want to get that nuclear material out there, somebody's going to have to go there, guard it, secure it while they take it out of there. And you know, they're saying this could be over within a few weeks, maybe A month before the straits fully opened again. But, you know, where, where are the troops going? Where is the RIGC going to go? Where, where are they going to go? The irgc. Sorry, where are they going to go? They're there and there's what, a million of them? So I. It's going to be really difficult to, to see a transition. I know when this first started, we thought that people would rise up and take over their government, but, but that's not going to be easy, especially when they're unarmed. And we saw what, 40,000 were killed. So this is not a good situation. I know they want it to end quick. I know the American people would like to see it end quick. But if we don't finish the job over there, they'll just rise up and start all over again. Somehow, some way, that regime has to be removed if we don't want a continued threat.
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Yeah, it is extremely challenging. As you mentioned, I read this morning that the United States sank six fast boats that were causing trouble. The. What's left? There's not much left of the Iranian navy, but there's no doubt the blockade is working. The blockade is working. There's a desperation. Iran launched several missiles and drones at the UAE because the UAE got out of OPEC and they're trying to cause trouble. So it's interesting as well that the UAE and some of these other countries, these, these Muslim countries are now providing intelligence and bank accounts because a lot of that money was filtered through Qatar. And so they're providing now this information, which is allowing increased sanctions to now have greater effect from the United States because now they have the information. And so I think Iran is making some, some, some blunders. But as you. Why? Why? Because they're just filled with blind hatred. And so as you said, they don't. They've already killed 40, 50,000 of their own. So I don't know if you remember this a few weeks ago. You probably do. But when Trump. This is one of the mistakes I think Trump made. One of the few mistakes I think he's made in this is he said, all right, well, if you guys don't give in, then we're going to bomb your infrastructure and we're going to give you 10 days. Well, on day nine, Iran went around and gathered all these women and children and then they wrapped them all around the infrastructure, the electrical plants and stuff, willing to sacrifice their own children and said, okay, Trump, now are you going to destroy it? Well, Trump obviously should have just destroyed it in the sense of without notifying him in advance. So they kind of outplayed him there. So now he's like, well, okay, and I'm certainly that glad he didn't kill any children and, or other people. But then he went to the blockade. So the blockade is working. But we see, we see as well, how's it going to play? Like you said, I think Israel is going to probably end up having to provide the troops to get the, the enriched uranium, because I think they, they need it, they need to stop the threat more than the United States for sure, because they're closer to within missile ranges. But let me ask you this. There was a report just over the last few days where we saw that the German chancellor was really relatively ignorant, speaking about how that America is losing this, this war. America is being embarrassed by the Iranians. And you're, I don't know what, what you're looking at, but so Trump, obviously, that offended Trump. And so now Trump, of course, is discussing ways in which NATO has shown itself to be an unwilling or unhelpful partner. And so he talked about removing at least 5,000 potentially more troops from Germany. So Trump seems to be saying, look, you know, I'm done with NATO. You guys are a bunch of freeloaders. And so we, we don't need to be in Germany. There are benefits of having bases at different places, but we don't need to be there to help. And now we have the German chancellor basically walking back some of his comments because I think they realized, maybe your thoughts on that. They realized that can NATO really be NATO without the United States?
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No. In fact, how they're not helping us out with this because they're the ones that benefit the most from oil going through the strait there. So how they can not help us out. And then even worse, even more egregious, is the fact they won't let us use our bases in their country to do these operations. I mean, that, that just blows my mind. I don't even know how you can wrap your brain around that. Those are our bases that we fund. We're part of NATO. They're part of NATO. That should be an automatic, let alone not coming in and using your resources to help out. Yeah, the intelligence is great, but I'd like to see more countries step up and get some of their military assets in there to help us out, because we're fronting most of the bill right now for this. And so not only is it not fair, it's just morally not right. They're the ones that benefit the most from it, they're the ones that benefit the most from us being in NATO, so they need to step up. And I'm surprised Trump hasn't put more pressure on him to do that. I really am.
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Yeah. It's interesting too, that when it's, it's like these people, and I really mean the European leadership, they clearly either have not learned or understand history going back to World War II. You know, Chamberlain, this is like the Chamberlain generation that, you know, they're, they're holding up. Look at. I have a, I mean, it was such, such smugness. You see the videos. I have an agreement. You know, Hitler has signed agreement, agreement. And then, and then he, Hitler attacks. So they, they've become so passive and naive, myopic in their viewpoints. They, they cave. There are a bunch of compromisers and pacifiers, however you wanted to say it. And it's like they don't understand that these people, the only thing that somebody like Iran understands is force is, is a bigger stick. They, they are committed to again, their ideology. And so we're watching the fall of Europe. We're watching again the, the, the, the culture being removed. And, you know, and so how does, you know, what, what is the end goal? I mean, in the sense of even prophetically speaking, Whether it's Ezekiel 38, how does this play in.
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Well, even before that, everyone, if you listen to the news, everyone's so focused on one thing, and that's what the news media is really good at. Like right now, oh, look at our gas prices. Look at our gas prices. But they don't look to see one. What if, what if the Democrats would have gotten power right now? Where would we be right now? And just think, had we not taken that threat out of Iran, where would we be right now? I got to believe, because they already had ballistic missiles. They bragged about having uranium at 60% and they were only, you know, weeks away from getting to 90%. And that's all they needed. They, I have no doubt they would have used it. I mean, they've already proven that. They've proven it to the, to the UAE countries over there. So I have no doubt that they were willing to do whatever it takes to, to achieve their goal, which is to wipe the little Satan out first and then us. I firmly believe that had they gotten that, they would have used it. So in God's providence, I just think that he put him there for this reason. We have to look at not just the short term goals, but the long term goals of this. Yeah, gas is a little High right now, but when this is over, I got to believe it's going to plummet. It's still lower than when the last administration was in. There it is. The media is so good at focusing on one item and then they pound it into you until everybody's all whipped up about the gas prices right now. So we got to look down the road and say, you know what? In the long term, pray. Pray to the Lord that this turns out. Could it what. What we know, the event that could change this whole thing. That's the rapture of the church. Yeah, that would probably catapult this whole deal into Ezekiel 38, but, yeah, that's looming on the horizon, no doubt about it. But if that's God's plan, then that's the way it's going to turn out. And we've heard, you know, Billy talk about how the globe is being divided into these 10 regions. And we know the Bible says that's going to happen. So we shouldn't be surprised. We shouldn't be shocked. We shouldn't be anxious or afraid. We can only do what we should do, and that's get involved in your family, your community, you know, your church, and getting your pastor motivated to take care of some of these issues. Because some of these issues nationally, we're not going to be able to influence too much. You know, whatever is going to happen over there, you and I and most people don't have any say in what's. What we're going to do in Iran or in the Middle east right now. So take care of yourself, your family, and your community first and your church, and make sure that they're doing what they should be doing, being salt and light, getting the gospel out there and raising up good leaders in your community. That's what we need right now. We need good leadership in our communities, our local governments, our sheriffs. All that I talked about, about before.
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Amen, Ken. And this is, you know, in my mind, whenever I give any sort of presentation or at a conference, I always end on two verses. And one is Mark 13:37. You know, watch, Jesus, is what I say to you. I say to everybody to be watching. First, Thessalonians 5, 6 is the same thing Paul says as the day of the Lord is. Is approaching, that we need to be watching and aware. And then secondly, that all the stuff that you just got done saying is In Luke, chapter 19, verse 13, Jesus says, Occupy until I come. And that means everything you just said, Ken, is that we're watching, but yet we are being actively Involved we are being salt and light. That really is the goal of prophecy. It's not to go build a commune and to hide out, but it's to stick around all the way until the Rapture. We aren't called to leave this world. In John 17, Jesus said that until the appointed time when we're going to go see the Father's house, that, that's the exciting thing is we'll get to go see the Father's house in John 14. So, you know, it's. Ken, when I hear you say these things, I just, I appreciate. This is why we love having you at Prophecy Watchers and you and I have spent a lot of time in the past few years together because there's such a like mindedness there of seeing people being ready, but yet also not disengaging from those around us.
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Yeah, absolutely. And don't get discouraged. You're going to have naysayers and people come out and speak against you or they want to ask you questions, you want to be ready with answers. The biggest one I had, well, this secret rapture that's going to happen. And I'm thinking rapture is no secret. When it happens, everybody's going to know about it. We're not being secretive about it. We're boldly going out there and telling you that at some point in time, time soon, and hopefully soon, there's going to be a rapture of the church. And I hope you're right because I agree with you. I pray that people see us ascending into heaven because then absolutely it will not be a secret because people are going to say I witnessed it. And so I kind of agree with your. I'd never heard that theory before until I started hanging out with you. So I agree. I pray that, that people witness the church ascending into heaven or to meet the Lord in the air.
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Yep. I mean, we see Elijah being witnessed, we see Jesus being witnessed going up, and then we see the two witnesses in Revelation 11 and it says that they went up in front of their enemies while their enemies watched. And so there's no confusion. Again, only detractors use the idea of a secret rapture. Darby and others historically never said that, but we trust that the Lord is going to show very clearly that, hey, you guys have entered into a world, you guys have rejected the gospel and now you're going to enter into a time of, as La Marzulli says, the coming great deception and all of that, that includes. And so again, if you have a desire to, to have Ken come out, go to Ken prophecywatchers.com certainly reach out to him. Also, consider joining us in June or even at our prophecy conference in Colorado or join us on an Alaska cruise in August. You can get again prophecywatchers.com, check it out. Ken, as always, it's been good having you here. Any final words for us?
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Great to be with you, Mondo. Yeah, I would love to come out and speak at your church or conference if you need help putting a conference together. I've helped people that say, hey, we'd like to do more than just a church event. We want to do a conference. Get ahold of me. Kenrophecywatchers.com I'll certainly give you as much help as I can putting it together. I've helped churches put a few of them together. So I'd love to come out and just meet everybody and speak and get some good fellowship in Amen.
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All right, everybody, this is this is the the week in Bible prophecy and trying to give you an update of what's happening. Things are always moving, no doubt. And look for us next week when we'll keep you updated. God bless.