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These are two of the most awesome men that you will ever run across on this earth. God is good, and I consider it an honor to have them as friends. I also consider it an honor to just be here at Prophecy Watchers with all of the choices of speakers that they have. I only had to pay them $500,000 to be able to speak today. No, that's not true. That's not true. Before we get started, my name is Larry Allison, and I would like to bring you up to date on the latest archaeological digs that have happened. I. I go to Israel frequently. My wife is a Hebrew teacher. And how many of you know that? It has been said that there's been a recent discovery that Paul the Apostle's father, his dad, was one of the two thieves that was crucified with Jesus. In fact, it's plainly in scripture, but we've just overlooked it. You know, Paul said very clearly, my old man was crucified with Christ. That's what he said. Okay, moving. Moving right along. You know, Bob is such a good friend. You know, Bob is such a good friend. And this church asked him to speak. And he had just finished watching a Pentecostal healing service on television. And so when they asked him to speak, he was feeling very frisky. And so he said, is there anybody here that has a need? And this man stood up in the back, he said, I need help with my hearing. So Bob, he said, well, come on up here. And he brought the man up to the front, and he just laid hands on him, and he got that, you know, the thing that they teach you to do in preacher school, you know, and he says, be healed. And he kind of pushed the guy back a little bit, and the guy staggered back, and Bob looked at him and he says, how's your hearing now? He says, well, I don't know. It's not till next Tuesday at the courthouse. So, listen, I needed to start off with something kind of funny, because I need you to put away the tomatoes here. They gave me this clicker. Let's see how this thing works. Ah, right there. Now, the scripture says that Jesus said, I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. What we are talking about today is very controversial. Very controversial. There have been church splits, family splits. There are people that just don't like each other because of what I'm going to teach today. But here's what you need to understand. The distant past. Regardless of how you believe, whether you believe the earth was created in six days or over 13.8 billion years. Either way, there's only one way to the Father, and it does not affect your salvation. You are born again by one way, and that is by your belief in Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior and your confession. Believe in the Lord that he is the Lord, and believe that God raised him from the dead. And you make that confession, and according to scripture, you're born again. So I want to start with this today so that you understand that. And I remind you, put the tomatoes away. Well, this is a very controversial subject. And what I want you to understand is there, I'm going to show you in scripture where there was an earth that was destroyed and it was covered by water, and that that happened before the first day of creation. I want to show you that the flood of Noah was the second flood and that the Lord said he would never destroy the earth again by water. I want to show you by scripture that there was a civilization that existed before us. Now, you've got to be watchful to not get your theology from Hollywood. That's where most people get their theology these days. It's from television. Even some of the shows that we watch every year that are so good, you know, It's a Wonderful Life, you know, and you have Clarence, who is some kind of a goofball guy who died, who is going to become an angel. First of all, you don't become an angel, all right? And secondly, you don't come back to earth to earn your wings, because our salvation is by grace. For by grace are you saved through faith, not of yourselves. So there's nothing you can do to earn your salvation before you die. And there's certainly nothing you can do to earn your salvation after you die. But there's a lot of people who base their theology on what they see on television. Look, I'm the pastor of a church. I've done hundreds of funerals and hundreds of weddings. Every time you see a wedding on the Hallmark Channel, they say, now if there's anyone here that does not agree with this union, stand now or forever hold your peace. I've never said that at a wedding. And I've never been to a wedding where anybody's ever said that. Why? Because there's probably a lot of people out there that would stand up and say, hey, me, you know, but in Hollywood, see, we think that that's in weddings because Hollywood movies have it. But we need to get back to the word of God. What does the word of God say about things? All right, now, I'm gonna tell you a little bit about science and I'm gonna tell you a lot about the Bible. But true science and true Bible. Now follow me on this. True Bible and true science, there's a lot of fake science. How many of you know that there's fake news out there? All right, so fake science does not agree, but true science and true Bible does agree. Now, I am not an evolutionist. I do not believe in evolution. But in the realm of creation, there's basically two groups. There's what they call Old Earth or Old World creationists and new World creationists. Now, neither group believes in evolution. You know, they don't believe that we just evolved from space dust, you know, that all of a sudden one day a bunch of space, and next thing you know, we've got Bob Ulrich. You know, that just doesn't happen. And the old World creationists believe that God created everything, but he did it over a period of time. New world creationists believe that it happened in six days. Now, I'm going to tell you right now, hold the tomatoes. I am an old world creationist, But I'm in the minority. 70% of the church is new world creationist. Once again, we believe that evolution is wrong. All scientific groups, if you take the science groups, they all agree on this. That the Universe was created 13.8 billion years ago. They almost all agree on that. And it was created out of a singularity that is smaller than an atom. And that in a moment of time, something happened. They don't know what, but something happened. And there was an explosion of some sort. And moving faster than the speed of light, the universe came into existence. Now, Our universe is 94 billion light years across. And this what we have right here, and quoting Science Weekly, this is a picture of the radiation leftover from the Big Bang. Theory is what they call. It's not the television show, okay? And it was taken from a spacecraft. This is the oldest. This picture right here is the oldest light recorded in. In the universe. Now, this information that they have helps them determine the age of the universe. Now, the leading explanation about how this Universe began was 13.8 billion years ago. There was a spark, and it all started expanding. Now, when I say that it's 94 billion light years across, and we are right in the center of this, what that means is that light traveling at 299 million meters per second, or 186,000 miles per second, that's fast. Light traveling at 186,000 miles per second, it would take 94 billion years to travel from one side of the universe to the other side of the universe. Now, somebody may say, okay, so now we know that the universe is 94 billion miles wide. No, we don't know that. That's just as far as we can see. And every time, you know, they had the Mount Palomar telescope in San Diego, California, and then they had the Hubble telescope, and now they have one that they're getting ready to put online that's gonna see a hundred times farther than that. Every time they find a spot in space where they think there's nothing and they have a telescope that will focus on that, they find out that there's more of the same. Science has a belief that our universe does have an end. But let's see what the word of God has to say. Let's take a look at two Peter, chapter three. For this they willingly forget that by the word of God, the heavens were of old and the earth standing. Now listen to this. Standing out of water and. And in water by which the world that then existed. Do you see that? The world that then existed, what happened to perished? Are we living in that world? No, we're not living in that world. Why? How do we know that it perished being flooded with water? But the heavens and the earth, which are now are preserved. Being flooded, are preserved by the same word, and they're reserved for fire until that day of judgment of perdition of ungodly men. Now, let's take a look. I wanted you to see that the Bible does talk about a world that perished and being flooded by water. Now, here we have the very first verse in the Bible. In the Torah, it says, in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. It's barasheet bara elohim et hashemyim Haaretz. Now it says heavens. Now, it's interesting. Some of your Bibles will say, in the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth. But the word in the Hebrew is hashem, which is plural. So that means that there's one earth and heavens. Now, how many heavens are there? Well, we know that Paul the Apostle, that he said he was caught up into the third heaven, and when he was caught up into the third heaven, that he heard things and saw things that he couldn't. It said it was unlawful for him to speak. In other words, another translation there says that there are not words that can explain what it was he saw. I also think it's interesting that he was talking with his friends later and he said, he said, you know, to be absent from the Body is to be present with the Lord. He said, I've been there and I've been here and I'd rather be there, but because of you knuckleheads, I gotta stay here. Well, it's. So there's three heavens now. No, let's wait. If you'll go out here to the table. Ken Johnson has a book with some recently translated transcripts of the, of the Dead Sea Scrolls. And he has the Testament of Levi. Now, who was Levi? Well, there's Abraham, Isaac, Jacob and Levi. So Levi was the great grandson of Abraham, the grandson of Isaac, the son of Jacob, who was Israel. And they had the 12 tribes and he was Levi. And the custom was, is when they were getting ready to pass from this life, they would bring their family together and they would read to them and give them a testament that they could pass on that told about what they knew about God. And so Levi gathered his family together and he read from his testament. And in his testament, he said there are seven heavens. And he goes through and he describes what each one of these heavens are. Well, whether there's three heavens or seven heavens or 11 heavens, I don't know. But what we do know is there's multiple heavens. You know, I was reading a verse the other day and it kind of excited me. You know, we know that Jesus descended and ascended after his resurrection, you know, after he came out of the grave. And it says, he who ascended is also the one. He who descended is also the one who ascended far above all the heavens, that he might fill all things. So isn't it kind of interesting that some people believe that all we have is just the heavens and the earth, But Jesus, he didn't just go up a little bit above, he went far above all the heavens. So what does that tell us? That tells us that there's more to God than what we think. You know, we talk about time and we can, because we're humans and we're believers, born again believers. And because we know that we have eternal life, it's easy for us to think about eternity future, but to think about eternity past is a little difficult. You say, well, the Bible says in the beginning. Well, that's in the beginning of what we're supposed to know. Well, science says, what if you go all the way back to the big bang, 13.8 billion years ago? Well, let me ask you this. What about 13.9 billion years ago? What about before the Big Bang? How many bangs were there before that? How do we know that our universe is, no matter how big it is. If it's. If it's a billion times larger than what we know, how do we know that it's the only universe? How do we know that we're in the only dimension that God has? Our God is an awesome God, and he's amazing. So what did he give us in his scripture? He gave us what he wanted us to know. Now, I've had Threat. I shouldn't say threats I've had. I'm the president of an international ministers association. I have hundreds of pastors that report. And it's amazing what some people can believe. You know, Some people believe things just because they want to believe it, you know? I ran into a guy the other day, and he said, I got a new Ford pickup. And I said, really? I said, you really like it? He said, it's the only one. I said, well, what other kinds did you test? And he said, I didn't test anything. I just bought the Ford. I said, well, really? I said, you know, maybe Chevy or Dodge or somebody makes one, one that you would like better. No, they don't. And I said, well, why do you have a Ford? He said, my daddy had a Ford. My daddy before him had a Ford. We're a Ford family. Don't be messing with a Ford. I always thought that stood for found on the road dead. I don't know. But the reality is sometimes we believe things just because we were. My daddy was a Baptist. My granddaddy was a Baptist. I'm a Baptist. That's what I believe. We need to look at the word of God. And that's what happened to me many, many years ago when I went to seminary and I discovered you can believe what everybody tells you, or you can look at the word of God and see what the word of God has to say. And I tell you what, if you go to the word of God, the answers are there. The reality is, the answer to everything is there. Let's take a look at this. The earth was formless and void, and darkness was on the face of the deep. And the spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. Now, we read that scripture a few moments ago where Peter said that there was water covering the earth, the first earth that then existed. Now, this phrase here, without form and void, that is two Hebrew words, and it's tohu wabohu. Now, tohu wabohu. The best way to describe that is if a Jewish mother would go into her child's bedroom and clean it up, put everything the way it's supposed to be. And then she comes back three hours later, and it's a mess. She would say, tohu wabohu. In other words, it became formless and void. It wasn't, but it became that way. So the earth became formless and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the water. Was this on day one? No, no, day one hasn't got here yet. The heavens and the earth were created when on day one? No, day one hasn't got here yet. All right. Hmm. For thus says the Lord, who created heavens. He created what? The heavens. Who is God? Who formed the earth and made it? Who established it? Who did not create it in vain. You see that that word vain there in the original Hebrew is tohu. In other words, God did not create the earth formless and void. I've heard people say. Well, it says the earth was formless and void. That's the way God created it. No, the scripture says everything God created was good. You know, James 1:17 says, Every good and every perfect gift comes down from the Father of lights. If it's good, it's God. All right? It's a little difficult for some people to grasp, but God is good and the devil's bad. You know, and in some churches, you can get in trouble for preaching that because they talk about all these bad things that God does to people. No, God doesn't do bad things to teach you something. He's not that kind of a teacher. Who did not create it in chaos, but who formed it to be inhabited? I am the Lord, and there is no other. Well, praise the Lord. So that lets us know that the original Earth was not created in chaos. Then God said, let there be light. In other words, he said, light be. Original translation of the Hebrew is light be. And there was light. Now, we're not talking about the sun and the moon because they didn't show up until day four. So we're not talking about basically 186,000 mile per second light. Basically, what I believe, I believe there's a double meaning here. And I believe that when God said light be. You know, the Bible tells us God is light. God is light. And in him is no darkness at all. God is light. I believe that the earth was created. It became formless and void because of something that happened over a period of time on this Earth. And we'll talk about that in a few minutes. And then God showed up and basically says, here I am, light be. And he's ready for the next phase And God saw the light, that it was good, and divided the light from the darkness. God called the light day, and the darkness he called night. So the evening and the morning were the first day. Then God said, let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters. Now, did he create the waters? At one time he created the waters. But did he create the waters on this day? No, they were already there. Right. Because back before day one, the waters covered the earth. We found that out in Scripture. So, but what did he do? He divided the waters from the waters. Then God made the firmament and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament. And it was so. And God called the firmament heaven. That's our atmosphere here. That's this first heaven. So the evening and the morning were the second day, you know. And once again, please do your best to hold the tomatoes at this point in time. But what was really created on this day? Nothing. Everything was rearranged on this day. Because the waters already existed, he separated them. Now there was an. Well, let's move on here. Then God said, let the waters under the heavens be gathered together into one place and let the dry land appear. And it was so. And God called the dry land earth. And the gathering together of the waters he called seas. And God saw that it was good. Then God said, let the earth bring forth grass and the herb that yields seed and the fruit tree that yields fruit according to its kind. And where did the seed come from? Whose seed is in itself where on the earth? And it was. So I personally believe, this is just my personal belief, that this is a seed leftover from the previous civilization. You know, there was a group of Israelis in Egypt, and they found some seed in a canister and this seed was 4,000 years old, and they took it back to Israel. Of course, everything grows in Israel, you know, but they took it back to Israel and they harvested, they planted and grew this wheat from 4,000 year old seed. So seed can carry life for a long time. And the earth brought forth grass, the herb that yields seed according to its kind, and the tree that yields fruit whose seed is where? In itself, according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. So evening and the morning were the third day. See, and once again, this can actually be. I've talked with a couple Hebrew rabbis who. They believe that the seed wasn't created on that day, but that seed was within the earth already. But regardless, God's in control of this thing. God's putting it all Together. And the evening and the morning were the third day. Now, back here in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. I wanna discuss for a little bit what happened between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2. Now, in Genesis 1:1, he created the heavens and the Earth. And in Genesis 1:2, we see that the Earth became the formless and void. What happened in that time? How long was the Earth perfect before it became formless and void? Now, the Bible talks about in that time period that there were kings, kingdoms, nations and commerce going on. Understand this. Lucifer was cast out of heaven. He was cast out of heaven before Adam and Eve were placed in the garden. And we can prove that in multiple places in multiple scriptures. I mean, that's almost not debatable. There is no record in the six days of creation of angels being created. But we know that they were created before. And so in this earlier existence, I want to show you some scriptures. How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning. How you are cut down to the ground. That word also means earth. You who weakened the nations. Now, here is something that is just fluffed over. You know, I grew up in church. You know, I had so many Sunday school pins on me by the time I got married that I walked sideways. You know, my background was a Baptist background. I used to think if anybody wasn't a Baptist, that they weren't going to heaven. Then I read my Bible, and now I think that the Baptists have a SWAT team out looking for me. But, you know, sometimes we just don't read all of the sentence and get a grasp of what it's saying. How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning. How you are cut down to the ground. You who weakened the nations. What nations? If all this took place before Adam and Eve, what nations are we talking about? Well, so someone would say to me, so you're saying that man was on the earth. There was mankind on the earth before Adam and Eve. No, there was not. The Bible clearly, also clearly tells us that Adam was the first man. But there was obviously a civilization of some type because they had nations. Now, if you have nations, what do you have? You have rulers, you have commerce, you have trading. You have boundaries, you have borders. Let's go into the next verse. For you have said in your heart, I will ascend into heaven. I will exalt my throne above the stars. I will also sit on the mount of the congregation on the farthest sides of the north. I will ascend above the heights of the clouds. I will Be like the most high God. Now, he didn't say he was gonna be God. He didn't say he was gonna throw God out. He just said, I'm gonna be like God. Now, what's wrong with that? So Lucifer, who was a cherub, which was a cherubim is plural for cherub. He was the anointed cherub. What's wrong with him wanting to be like God? Well, here's the thing. He wasn't created to be like God. If you go over to the Book of Hebrews, you will find the Bible clearly tells us why angels were created. They were created. They were put into position to minister. To. Excuse me. To minister for those who will inherit salvation. That's what the Bible says. God did not create them to be like him. They were not created in his image and his likeness. Now we are the ones who inherit salvation. We are created in his image and in his likeness. He wants us to look like him, talk like him, act like him. Because we are sons of the God. Sons of God. And we are joint heirs with his son, Jesus. Boy isn't that powerful. You ever think about that? The scripture says that by all things, everything was created. And for Jesus. For him, everything was created. It wasn't created for us, it was created for Jesus. And then we who are believers, we become joint heirs with him. Well, that's amazing. My mom has an inheritance, and I have a. Have a sister, and we're joint heirs. What does that mean? That means everything she gets, I get. Everything I get, she gets. Could it be true that we are joint heirs with Jesus? Wow. I will ascend above the heights. I will be like the Most High. Well, he wasn't supposed to be like the Most High yet. You shall be brought down to Sheol, to the lowest depths of the pit. Those who see you. Now keep in mind, man wasn't created yet. Those who see you will gaze at you and consider you saying, is this the Man? And the word There. The Hebrew word could be being. Is this the Being who made the earth tremble? Who shook what kingdoms? Who made the world a wilderness and destroyed its cities? Who did not open the house of his prisoners? How did the world become Tohu va bohu? It's because sin entered in, and sin entered in through him. In Jeremiah, it says, I beheld the earth, and indeed it was without form and void. And. And the heavens, they had no light. I beheld the mountains, and indeed they trembled. And all the hills moved back and forth. And behold, excuse me. I beheld. And indeed there was What? No man? And all the birds of the heavens, which can also be translated flying creatures, have fled. There were other creatures, but there was no man. Hmm. I beheld. And indeed, the fruitful land was a wilderness, and all its. What? Cities. There were cities. When Lucifer was cast down, there were cities. They were broken down at the presence of the Lord by his fierce anger. All its cities were broken down. And there was no man. Civilization was going on, but there was no human. And as you'll see in a few moments, Lucifer was not fair in his commerce and trading. He was a thief. Hmm. But you have come to the Mount Zion. Zion. To the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. Now, this is not the new Jerusalem. I heard a man preach a sermon the other day using this scripture, and he talked about how this was all the new Jerusalem. Well, the new Jerusalem doesn't come down from heaven until after the millennial reign of Christ and the Great White Throne judgment. And there's a new heaven, a new earth, and a new Jerusalem coming down. And if the rapture were to take place today, then that would be at its soonest, a thousand and seven years. All right, so the heavenly Jerusalem to an innumerable, innumerable company of angels, to the general assembly of the Church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God, the judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect, to Jesus, a mediator of the new covenant, and to the blood of sprinkling that speaks better than that of Abel. Look, there is more to heaven than what we can grasp at this point. I mean, the Bible even talks about creatures with four faces. I got a face here, and a face here, and a face here and a face. I've met some people with two faces. But moreover, the word of the Lord came to me saying, son of man, take up lamentation for the King of Tyre and say to him, thus says the Lord God, you now, this is speaking to Lucifer. You were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. You were in Eden, the garden of God. Now, all of the things we're talking about today are in this book here, the paradise of God. All right? And we'll be having a special, by the way, for one hour after this session, where for every book you buy, you get another book of equal value absolutely free. But all of these scriptures, and much more than what I'm able to cover today are covered in this book. And you'll see that the paradise of God was in four different locations throughout history. But originally, it started out in heaven. It says you were in Eden, the Garden of God. Every precious stone was your covering. The Sardis, the Topaz, the diamond, the Beryl, onyx, Jasper, sapphire, turquoise and emerald with gold. The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes was prepared for you on the day you were created. Now, this is one thing we need to understand. There are people who believe that there has been for all eternity past a battle between good and evil, between God and Satan. And sometimes it seems like Satan's winning, and then sometimes it seems like God's winning. And it's always back and forth, back and forth. The reality is, there was a day that Satan, that Lucifer, that was his name. Satan just means adversary. There was a day that he was created. And the day before he was created, he didn't exist. And by the way, God and Lucifer are not equal. God was not created. He always has been, always will be. He is the I am, not the I was and I will. He is the I am for all eternity. Lucifer is a created being. He was created by the word of God. So my granddaughters asked me. Each one of them have asked me this question, grandpa, why did God create the Devil? If the Devil's so bad, why did he even make him? And I said, he didn't make him. He made Lucifer. And Lucifer was perfect. And then Lucifer sinned and he became bad. And then they come back with this, well, if God knew they were going to become he was going to become bad, then why did he create him? And that answer just goes to the heart of the nature of God. God has given us free will. And it's a little hard for us to grasp, but God can look down through the corridors of time and see into the future and know what you are going to discover, decide to do without altering your decision to do it. You have free will. God knows what you're going to choose, but he is not making you choose it. He has foreknowledge, but he doesn't. Okay, moving right along. I can see from back, my grandpa used to say, that's the way cows look at a new gate. That's the way you guys were looking at me. So. All right, moving right along. I think it's time to go to the next slide here. We'll all agree Lucifer was created. All right. See, everything has its lane. It's supposed to be in. Angels have a lane that they're to be in. We have a lane that we're going to, that we're supposed to be in. You know, you weren't created as an Angel. You're not gonna become an angel. You know, I go to funerals, and I hear some of the weirdest things. Oh, you know, I have some radio stations, Christian radio stations, in fact, a network, Spirit fm. I don't know if any of you listen to it or not, but it's a great network. We got quite a few stations, but we. We had a person that worked at our station that passed away, and this person had a job in promotions. And so this minister was. He said God just needed a better promotional director in heaven. Where do we get that kind of thing? Or another flowers in heaven or. I heard one the other day. Seriously, I was at a funeral, and this person said, and now we have another angel in heaven. No. You are mankind. You are humankind. And how many of you have met Gary Stearman? All right, well, let me tell you something. Gary Stearman's not an angel, and he's never gonna be an angel. For all eternity, he is going to be a man in a resurrected, glorified body, part of the body of Christ, a trophy of God's grace. I love it. All right. You were the anointed cherub who covers. I established you. You were on the holy mountain of God. You walked back and forth in the midst of the fiery stones. You. You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created till iniquity was found in you by the abundance of your. What? Your trading. Well, what did Jesus say about him in John 10:10? He says, the thief comes. And what's the first thing he comes to do? Steal. Lucifer is a thief. He wants to steal from you. He wants to kill you. He wants to steal your life. He wants to destroy your ministry, and he wants to destroy your family. The thief comes to steal, kill, and destroy. And Jesus comes back with his mission statement. He says, but I have come that you might have life and have it more abundantly. You were filled with violence within, huh? And you sinned. And I cast you as a profane thing out of the mountain of God, and I destroyed you, O covering cherub, from the midst of the fiery stones, your heart was lifted up because of your beauty. You corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor. I cast you to the ground. I laid you before. What? Hello? Kings. If you have kings now, they weren't human, but there was some kind of an existence. And if you have kings, you have what? You have nations, and you have boundaries and you have commerce that they might gaze at you. Hmm. You defiled your sanctuaries by the multitude of your iniquities by the iniquity of your trading. So evidently, he was in some type of commerce, Lucifer was in some type of commerce with the beings that were here on the earth. Therefore I brought you. I brought fire from your midst. It devoured you, and I turned you to ashes. Where upon the earth in the sight of all who saw you. Wow. There was an article in the Kansas University, Lawrence, Kansas paper, and it said. It just came out, and it was a research paper, and here's what it said. I'm gonna read it to you. A team of researchers who spent much time in the past seven years on an excavation in North Dakota believes it knows what happened to the dinosaurs for certain. In scientific terms, it's the answer to hundreds of questions. It's the smoking gun, as one member of the University of Kansas lab described it. On Tuesday, a team of Scientists from KU's Vertebrae Paleontology Lab is celebrating the findings of a dig that started in 2012. The mission resulted in finding fossilized remains of prehistoric fish completely intact with soft tissue. Dr. David Barnum and the other researchers said that the way the fish were preserved proves that the dinosaurs and other creatures of that era were killed. Now, here's what they believe. It proved that they were killed when a catastrophic event happened. Likely, most likely an extreme weather event caused by a meteor crashing to Earth. Okay, Now, I'm a pilot, and I know some of you probably would never want to fly with me, but I will tell you this. There's a difference between true north and magnetic north. The Earth, let's just put it this way, the Earth is off its axis. And I've often wondered, how did the Earth get off its axis? Now, I know that. And I was reading about how out in the western United States and in Mexico and some places in South America, there are craters that are a mile, two miles across. And when they try to find what it was that caused the crater, many times they find something no bigger than a bowling ball. And you think, well, how could something that size, the size of a bowling ball or maybe a little larger, could create a crater a mile wide? And then in my further study, I found out it's not the size of the object hitting the Earth, it's the velocity, it's the speed of the object hitting the Earth. And that took me back to something that Jesus said. Jesus said, I saw Satan fall from heaven like lightning. And I was just thinking, what if a cherub hit this Earth at 299 million meters per second? 186,000, wow. Could that. What if it hit the ocean at that speed? I mean, waters would wash across the continents. You know, right here in the land that we're in in Oklahoma and various places, they drill for oil. And sometimes they have to drill down thousands of feet. Well, what's that oil made of? It's made of organic material of something that used to be here. What's it doing a thousand, two thousand feet underground? Well, that's something to think about. Let's all think about it for a moment. Hmm? Hmm. Those guys in Kansas believe that this fish that they found with soft tissue died 65 million years ago. And if you say that to some Christians, it wrinkles their brain. They get brain cramps. I'll tell you what I found the best way. I travel a lot tomorrow. Tomorrow I'm at a conference in Wisconsin, okay? But I found the best way to sit by yourself on a bus, on a train, on a plane, is you just get a big T shirt that says, let me tell you about Jesus. And you stand in line and everybody, wherever you go in and get a seat, everybody, they just walk past you. But I've been on planes before and I found out you don't tell people you're a pastor right off because they just clam up. But you know, you're sitting on the plane and they say, what do you do for a living? I'm an author. Oh, really? Anything I've read? Oh, I don't know, my books are in Walmart. That means you've arrived. You know, I say, well, what are your books about? I say, they're self help books. And you get far enough into the conversation and you can talk to them about Jesus. But you know, generally speaking, the world thinks most Christians are brain dead. You know, they think that we don't know anything and Christians should be educated. Now whether, look, whether this happened this way, I believe the word of God. But once again, let me remind you, this is not salvation critical. Whether you agree with what I'm sharing with you today or not does not affect your eternal salvation, but it could affect your ability to be able to talk with somebody. You know, we send our kids off to school and I've got several grandkids in college. And when they come back and if I tell them that everything that was created was created in six 24 hour periods and before that there was nothing and that outer space was just created old, instantly they start looking at grandpa like, grandpa doesn't really know anything because they believe that they have scientific proof. But if I Can at least converse with them. If I can at least say, well, let me show you what the Bible says about this, then you get them into a mode where you can talk to them. I remember years ago being invited to a Bible study. I was on a bowling team and I was invited to a Bible study. And actually when they got me out there, it wasn't a Bible study. It was out in the woods in the Ozarks. And. And I noticed when I walked out there and everything glistened that was from the moon glistening on the beer can lids that were all over the ground, you know. But these guys had never talked to anybody. The four other guys on the bowling team were just as lost as could be. And they had never talked to anybody that was a Christian. But they had heard me say something that interested them. I mentioned something. Louisiana. Marzulli's a good friend. You know, we've traveled a little together. But I'll tell you, I mentioned something about UFOs, and they thought, wow. Cause I told them about Ezekiel and a wheel within a wheel, and they go, wow. So they invited me to their Bible study, and they put away their beer that night and listened to me as we sat out in the woods. Well, out of that group, one became a chaplain, one became a pastor, one became a missionary, and I lost track of the fourth one. But I'll tell you what, it all started from being able to talk. We need to be able to open up conversation and not be so dogmatic that we just turn everybody off. Okay, moving right along. Hebrews 11:3. By faith, we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God. This much we know for sure. Can we all agree on this? Whether we're Old Earth creationists or New Earth creationists, we can all agree on this. By faith. We understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made out of things which are visible. God did speak everything into existence. Now Ezekiel 28. You traded with other nations and became more and more cruel and evil. This is referring to Lucifer. So I forced you to leave my mountain, and the creature that had been your protector now chased you away from the gems. It was your good looks that made you arrogant. Some of you have that problem. It was your good looks that made you arrogant. And you were so famous that you started acting like a fool. That's why I threw you to the ground and let other kings sneer at you. Going to give you a couple more scriptures, then we'll close here. You know, they Just told me I had an hour, not a day. You, who laid the foundations of the earth so that it should not be moved forever, you covered it with the deep as with a garment. The waters stood above the mountains. At your rebuke, they fled. At the voice of your thunder, they hastened away. They went up over the mountains. They went down into the valleys to the places which you founded. For them, you have set a boundary that they shall not pass over, that they may not return to cover the earth. We have an everlasting covenant with him. We have the rainbow, which, by the way, there's a group that tried to take the rainbow, you know, and they're very proud of it. That was humor. But their rainbow only has six colors. God's rainbow has seven. Isn't that amazing? I set my rainbow in the clouds, and it shall be for a sign of the covenant between me and the earth. It shall be when I bring a cloud over the earth that the rainbow shall be seen in the cloud. The rainbow shall be seen in the cloud, and I will look on it to remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is on the earth. Hallelujah. God's good. You know, we are a very unique group. We are here. I'll just make this comment in closing. We are here on this earth at a time after the resurrection of Jesus and just before the rapture. Two days, 2,000 years. Time is drawing to a close. And what is so special about this time is that during this time, we can receive eternal life. And that eternal life is not based upon what we do. It's based upon what he has done. For by grace, we were saved through faith. Now, grace, the simplest definition of grace is it's God's power. Have you ever heard anybody say, well, the only way I could accomplish this, it was just the grace of God. Well, what did they mean? They meant they couldn't do it, but somehow God empowered them to do it. So grace is God's power that he willingly gives to us. But faith, what is faith? Faith? Well, we know that the Bible definition is, faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen. But faith in its simplest form is just us believing God. So grace is something that God does for us. Faith is something we do for him. So we could take that verse, Ephesians 2:8. For by grace you are saved. Through faith, we could say, by God's power, we are saved through believing him. And we're living in this time of grace. So all we have to do is believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that God raised him from the dead, confess it with our mouth and we have everlasting life. And then when the rapture takes place, when that trumpet toots and we shoot, we're out of here, we're gone. And as the dead in Christ, for the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, the voice of an archangel and a trumpet of God and the dead in Christ rise first. That's a dead bodies. And we who have already gone on to be absent from the body, our spirits with the Lord, we come back with him. That means that when Jesus appears in the sky, that your relatives who are believers, their spirits are there, they're coming back with Jesus and their bodies will be resurrected out of the ground. And then doesn't say how long after, doesn't say how long. But then afterwards, we who are alive will be caught up to be with them in the air. And we will not just have resurrected bodies, we will have God glorified bodies. And we will be known for all eternity as the glorious Church. The body of Christ separated from every other existence, isn't that good? That's what he gave to us. That's what he gave to us. And Jesus made this statement, I am the way, the truth and the life. No one, no one, no one comes to the Father except through me. Thank you very much. Remember that for every book you purchase at our table for the next hour, you get a second book.