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Hello, I'm Gary Stearman. This is Prophecy Watchers. Today's guest, Billy Crumb. Billy, it's good to have you here, Gary.
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Glad to be back, man. It's always a treat to be on.
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And you are going to be speaking at a Colorado Springs get together we're going to have on June 4th through 7th.
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Yes, looking forward to that. It's going to be a great time.
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Oh, you'll add a lot to it. And let's pause and just tell people what that's going to be like.
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And we're back with Billy Crone. Billy, we have a lot to talk about today because you've been doing a lot of homework. Yes, I must say, Trump and the paradox prophecies. There's a conversation starting. You have written this and knowing you, you always go extra deep when it comes to research.
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Yeah.
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So where are we going to start?
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Well, this has become like a lightning rod of a topic. If you say anything negative about Trump, then people say, oh man, you're anti American, you're a communist, you're left. No, I'm not. But then if you say anything positive because he is, that's the paradox. He's doing some positive things, doing great things with the economy.
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Let me just interrupt for a second and say I think the most positive thing he's done is his work with Israel.
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Yes, exactly, Gary, perfect example. He's doing great things with the economy. From an economic perspective, he's a big supporter again of Israel, way better than, of course, Biden and then securing America's border. I don't discount, I'll give you credit where credit is due and that's great, that's fine. But the problem is that whether he realized it or not, unknowingly, there's other decisions that he's making, not just with AI, other decisions that he's making that has everything to do with Bible prophecy. And that's the paradox. Right. He's doing some good things, but paradoxically, he's doing some Things that line up with Bible prophecy and speeding up the arrangement of the coming Antichrist kingdom. And so we deal with that. And again, what we do and the reason why this is bigger, this is one big giant topic on AI. Revelation 13. Yes, this. We actually deal with three different Bible prophecies that Trump is helping to escalate, and that is the Ten Horn Kingdom, Revelation 17, the prophecies by Jesus, the days of Lot and the days of Noah, that you would see a return of those days before he came back. And so we, we deal with that. And again, it's. I'm not saying that Trump's quote, doing it on purpose. I don't know him personally. I didn't know his heart. I'm not saying he's not doing some good things. I'm not saying he wakes up every day and says, yep, I'm going to deliberately do all these decisions to help build the infrastructure for the Antichrist Kingdom. I'm not saying that. I'm just saying it's happening. So as Christians, certainly as prophecy watchers, we need to talk about it.
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And there are things happening that you chronicle in your DVDs that are surprising. Name a few of the surprises that got you when you began to do this work, because there are some surprising things that people really don't think about or know about going on right now.
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This one, the first one we deal with is the Ten Horn Kingdom, Revelation 17. Let me just read that text real quick, Gary. Okay. And then I want to expose what's going, going on, and maybe it'll answer some questions for people as to why we're doing what we're doing as a nation. But it says here, this is what's going to happen in the Seven Year Tribulation global context. The ten horns you saw are ten kings who've not yet received a kingdom, but who for one hour will receive authority as kings along with the beast, the Antichrist. And they have one purpose, and they'll give their power and authority over to the beast. So basically, in a nutshell, the planet in the seven year tribulation is going to be split up into 10 regions. Now stop right there. We've got over 200 some countries. How in the world is the planet going to be reduced to basically 10 regions? Well, it's going to happen. God prophesied, he never gets it wrong. And then number two, it says, once that's established and they're ruled by these rulers, kings, whoever, okay, then they're going to hand their power over to the Antichrist and He'll have total control. It's clear there. That's. You don't need to know some secret language or whatever. And so the point is, do we see any signs of the planet Gary, being split up into 10, specifically 10 regions. Absolutely. And for many years I've done the deep dive on this. And then of course, it takes you back to the Club of Rome map, the classic Club of Rome map, the early 70s, and that was produced. Most people don't realize the Club of Rome, which is a global think take system, exists because of Klaus Schwab. I actually have it on video that Klaus Schwab admitted he's the one, the founder of the World Economic Forum, the Great Reset, the 2030 agenda to take over the planet. He's the one that gave them their start. But anyway, long story short, their solution to bring peace and order to the planet back in the early 70s is they produced a map. It's called the Club of Rome map. And if you look on that map, Gary, I kid you not, they have the planet shaded into 10 regions exactly like Revelation 17.
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And by the way, in the DVD set, you see this very clearly. Yeah, there's no mistaking it.
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No, it's not. It's. And it's their map and it's not a conspiracy theory. So I'm going like, well, first of all, hello 10. I mean, what are the odds of that, Gary? Right. They're not, they're not biblical scholars, but they just happen to land on 10 just by regions. Yeah. Not five, not 192 with 10. That's your first clue. But this has been going on for a long time. And then we take a deep dive here and we demonstrate that all 10 of those regions are in high gear today. And then most people don't realize one of the things as a side effect of this behavior is pushing countries to hurry up and solidify those economic unions is the tariff issue. And that's not a conspiracy theory. I have interviews from around the world in each one of these regions that are admitting that they're scrambling because of the tariffs. And so they're coming together as countries to help stave that off economically. So that's even fueling that. But where we really hone in on is one of the 10 kingdoms that are going to be built according to the Club of Rome map, and that involves us, United States of America. And according to the World Economic Forum map, number one, shaded green is a new North America. And then you'll have the other nine regions, the rest of the world But a new North America, according to their map in the early 70s, is going to be Canada, U.S. and Mexico. Some versions of their map include England.
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Really? Isn't it interesting what's going on right now? Yes, we are softening up borders. We're repositioning power lines of power in the Western hemisphere. And things are actually changing.
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Yes, they are, Gary. Why? Because we know where it's headed. God told us, hey, the unthinkable is going to happen. And dare I say this, answers to me, the elephant in the room, why a lot of us do not see America in Bible prophecy.
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You know, that's really interesting, I mean, the way you put it, because for years and years people have said that they've just flat out, where's America? You know, and you come along in your book and I think you make a pretty good case.
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America, according to not only the Club of Rome, the World Economic Forum, Claude Schwab. Their map is they're going to be swallowed up. America will be swallowed up into this new union. So we're not going to exist as we exist today. That's the plan. And more importantly, that's what God said would happen. Gary. Okay, but my point is their version of the map, this has been going on for a long time. And just to be. It's not a party issue. It's both sides of the aisle. Democrat, Republican, whatever. And we start as far back in our research to demonstrate how long they've been working at combining America with Canada and Mexico, the new North American Union. It started really in high gear at the Bush Jr. Days. Right. He was a trader. I don't know how else to put it, but he was working. And what they called it was the SPP meetings, the Security Prosperity Partnership, whatever it is, they were working at combining the U.S. mexico and Canada according to the Columbia map. Right. Then it continued on with Obama. Shocker. And then shocker. It also continued with Biden. Biden really ratcheted up in high gear. In fact, we have on video, Gary, this was the other thing that was going on with the immigration issue. Why do these people want open borders? Why was Biden just letting anybody and everybody. Yes, it was a political move maneuver because statistically, more people who come in here illegally will vote for those that give them free health care, free food, free money. Right? So there, there is that. But I have on. On video admitting that their goal. Watch this. Their goal, and this would have happened if Kamala got in, their goal was to flood America with 100 million, 100 million illegal immigrants and not just from Mexico, but all over the world. Because what's going to happen is it's going to dilute America of the Americana mindset that is pro America America first, national sovereignty, our own identity. And then it's a numbers game. And then there won't be enough people to resist when they say, hey, we're going to combine with Canada and Mexico and create a new North American Union just like the European Union.
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Billy Crone, always researching, always writing. And here is the book Trump and the Paradox Prophecies. But right now I'd like to pause and let you know how you can subscribe to the Prophecy Watcher, our monthly magazine.
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And we're back with Billy Crone. His new book Trump and the Paradox Prophecies and where were we when we paused?
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Well, we, we paused on Joe Biden, his administration also advancing the North American Union according to the Club of rome map, the 10 regions of the world that they're splitting. That is exactly what God said would happen in the Seven Year Tribulation, the Antichrist kingdom, the Ten Horn Kingdom. And then most people say, well, whew, man, good thing that that stopped because Biden's not in. Kamala lost, Trump is in. We're safe and clear. That's what we bring out, Gary. And what I discovered was Trump is following a different map and it's called the Technape Map. And it's. The Technape Map was developed. It was a movement, what we call today technocracy. And it was a movement that started during the Great Depression after the First World War. And their whole premise was in order to bring peace and security to the planet, the politicians and governments, especially after World War I, now the Great Depression, they've demonstrated they can't get the job done. So it's up to the technological elites, the technology that we're going to come in and save the day. Now this was an actual movement. It's still in high gear today. Most people don't realize this and, but it's technology is going to save the day and bring peace to the planet. Well, they produced a map to a new North America just like the Club of Rome. But there's a couple things that are different on that map. Okay. It's not just the combining of Canada and the U.S. and Mexico. That's on their version too. But see if this sounds familiar. They, they combine Greenland on their map. Is that in the news?
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Quite familiar.
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Right. But let's even go back to Canada. Is Canada in the news?
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This has been kind of an under play, a story running underneath the main story that we just haven't been watching.
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Yeah, exactly. I mean the unthinkable is happening also not only with Greenland, it's like, why is there such everybody hot to try to get Greenland? I get the geopolitical issue. I get that it's a, it's a security issue. I'm not discounting on it. I get it that it's a mineral issue and protecting America's interests. I'm not against that. I'm just saying the bottom line, it's creating a new North American Union. Okay, But Canada, of course, now we have word from Canada. It's fracturing. There's actual talk, not just by Trump, that it'd be the 51st state but they are actually in active talks right now, Gary, with the White House to secede certain provinces to America. So that's starting to crumble. Mexico according to the Technate map. Here's the difference. The Club of Rome map, it's sometimes Greenland and Canada and US and Mexico. The Technape map is all that and it keeps going down south. This is the big difference between the two competing maps of a new North American unit. It goes all the way down to Panama Canal. That sound familiar?
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Sounds quite familiar.
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It's another region that all of a sudden was immediately hot to try and get that back. Not only that, do you know where it ends? It ends in the tip of South America with Venezuela.
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What?
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I'm not done. Because there's one more thing in that map. The Technape map shows that there will be a union also with the Caribbean Islands, including Cuba. And right now in the news there is sanctions on Cuba and that Trump has ordered that anybody who sells oil to Cuba is going to be slapped with big time terrorists. So basically Cuba's getting a stranglehold. And so Cuba, I'm not the prophet nor the son thereof, but they're next on the list. But here's the point, Gary. Every single country mentioned that map to create a new North American Union on the technic map is exactly what's going on. Again, I'm not saying Trump wakes up every day says, yep, I'm building this on purpose to be one of the ten horn. I'm not saying that. I don't discount the political issues, I don't discount the national sovereignty issues. As far as our security, we've got to secure from threats around. I don't discount either. I'm just saying at the end of the day, America as we know it is being swallowed up into a new North American Union. And Gary, it has everything to do with Bible prophecy and we need to talk about it.
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Well, you know, we've been Talking about the 10 nations for years or decades, but when you talk about it today, something different happens. You can actually see things moving and changing and you see power centers being formed in ways that they never were before. And you hear things about Canada, for example, just sort of occasionally in the news there will be a reference to Canada and conversations being held about, you know, what might be Canada's relationship to America in the very near future. You hear things changing. That's what's different about today.
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Yeah, exactly. And then, and then I keep using this phrase and the unthinkable is happening that America as we know, it is quickly becoming not America. Now again, you could label it as enforcing the Monroe Doctrine. You could enforce it as old fashioned American expansionism. I don't care what you call it. My point is this. It's happening before our very eyes. And God said 2000 years ago when the planet gets put into 10 different regions ruled by 10 different rulers.
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Yes.
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They're going to hand that over to the actual Antichrist. And America as we know it is being restructured into one of the 10 unions. And that's why we need to talk about this.
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Yeah. And by the way, Speaking of the 10 different rulers, you have a lot to say about that. And you, you conjecture about a lot of the people who are very activ. And powerful personalities today around the world whose names you might not know. Some of them you might. But we're talking about the 10 people.
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Yes, exactly. And again, I, I actually as you'll know with the. Certainly you'll see it in the documentary, but we also have it for the book. But I have a screenshot that I came across from the United Nations Parliamentary assembly and as soon as I saw this man. And they were, it was, it's an article and the last time I checked several months ago, it was still there. But I went ahead and screenshot it in case it disappeared. I am not joking. They were referring. Gary, watch this. And you can see it with your own eyes. They were referring to an event that was happened in 2008. They're reporting it in 2009. And I kid you not, it literally says the good news that they have established 10 world regions. Watch this. Ruled by 10 persons with the core funding from the Ford Foundation. And I'm going, what did we get to vote on that? Does anybody know this? Everybody's all distracted with all kinds of stuff. And then the UN back in 2009 reporting an event in 2008 that it isn't just they've split up the planet in 10 regions. The UN said there's 10 persons ready to go. And it's like, who are these 10 people? But Gary, what is this? That's the Ten Horn Kingdom.
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Right.
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And it's crazy. Now let me just one real interesting thing because a lot of people say, okay, so you found this technique map, which by the way, it's not AI generated, it's not Photoshop. I got this from the Cornell University library, still on file. So this is not a conspiracy theory. And so again there's two competing maps. There's the Club of Rome version that we've been talking about with their version of a new North America and their technique map. But here's the point. You're going so what's proof that Trump is tied with this technocracy map and that's his roadmap as to why he's after all these countries? Well, not just give me a break. 100% of them is exactly what we're going after. But whatever. Let's just say that's a big quinky dick. Here's the interesting thing. I traced the trail on the technocracy movement and there was a gentleman who was one of the bigwigs of the technocracy movement in Canada. His name was Joshua Halderman. He was a big wig with the technocracy movement who produced this map of a new North American union to bring peace to the planet, etc, blah blah. He eventually moves to South America. Him and his wife have a daughter and they named her May. May gets married, she has a son and you know what they named their son? Elon. Elon Musk is the grandson of Joshua Haldeman who is a big wig of the Technate map, the technocracy movement that is happening before our eyes.
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We've got to stop right there and I want to pause so that you can find out how you can get your very own copy of Trump and the Paradox Prophecies.
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And we're back with Billy Crone. And let me tell you, we can't cover everything in this book and DVD set in one program is you have, I think, pulled things together that a lot of people haven't. Yeah, the idea, in fact, and years ago, perhaps decades ago, people Talked about the 10 kings and the 10 regions of power that were mentioned in the Bible. And then people sort of dropped that. They just let it go. Right. And now it's time to bring it back.
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Well, again, it's happening in high gear. And my concern is this, Gary. Much of the Christian community, again, that's why we said paradox. It's a paradox going on. It's like if you say something good about Trump, you got these other people say, hey, you voted for the Antichrist and you're evil and I shut you off. But then if you mention some of these things that are going on about prophecy in his administration, knowingly or unknowingly. Yeah, I don't know the guy personally, but we got to talk about it. And then you got these other people say, well, don't confuse me with the facts. I'm on my four year vacation. The problem with that Gary, is what I've noticed since the Biden administration, we had no problem as Christians, as prophecy watchers to blow the whistle, which is 2nd Thessalonians 2, the restraining influence.
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Right.
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That's what a whistleblower is really in the vernacular. But here's the point. It's happening, Gary. Bible prophecy not only did not stop happening faster than the Biden administration because much of the church is asleep at the wheel and it's very concerning.
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It is indeed. In fact, it is time to take a new look really at spiritual matters. And by that, when the Bible talks about latter day prophecy, it talks about regions of power and powerful individuals. And that's exactly what you've covered in your book.
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Well, and that's just the first of three, Gary. So we didn't get to touch on the days of lot and the days of Noah, which real quick, is one of the biggest deep dives I've done on the transhumanist movement.
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Right.
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Because real quick, I noticed two things with these people surrounding Trump. He's surrounded by technocrats.
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Go.
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Not just musk, there's a bunch of other ones and people who hated his guts in the previous administration. So now he's surrounded by these technocrats who I think is in his personally. But based on my research I've done in the past on transhumanism, I noticed that these are all not just technocrats. Billionaire technology elites, every single one of them. Gary, Tit for tat is a transhumanist. And they're, they're, they are now got the ear of the White House to advance their transhumanist agenda.
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Very concerning modifying the human being, the human genome. Because maybe it just isn't good enough. Yeah, well, I beg your pardon. God created the heavens and the earth and he created humanity and that's good enough for me.
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Yeah, but that's not what they think. So don't call it Nephilim though, just call it human 2.0. OGNY's natine people be fooled.
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Billy Crone, Trump and the Paradox Prophecies. I'm Gary Stearman. Hey, you keep watching. We are Sam.
Original Air Date: March 10, 2026
Host: Gary Stearman & Mondo Gonzales
Guest: Billy Crone
In this thought-provoking episode of Prophecy Watchers, Gary Stearman welcomes pastor and prophecy expert Billy Crone to discuss his new book, Trump and the Paradox Prophecies. The panel takes a deep dive into Bible prophecy's intersection with current geopolitical changes—especially those relating to Donald Trump, the formation of future power blocs ("Ten Kings"), AI, the Antichrist, and the reshaping of America’s role on the world stage. The conversation is rich with analysis, scriptural references, and controversial insights into how recent and ongoing policies may be setting the stage for end-times events foretold in Revelation.
"If you say anything negative about Trump...people say, oh man, you're anti American...But then if you say anything positive...he is, that's the paradox." (03:43)
"From an economic perspective, he's a big supporter again of Israel...securing America's border. I'll give you credit where credit is due..." (02:07)
“Unknowingly, there’s other decisions he’s making...that has everything to do with Bible prophecy. And that’s the paradox.” (02:07)
“The 10 horns you saw are 10 kings...they will give their power and authority over to the beast.” (04:01)
“If you look on that map, Gary, I kid you not, they have the planet shaded into 10 regions exactly like Revelation 17.” (05:41)
"New North America, according to their map...is going to be Canada, U.S. and Mexico. Some versions of their map include England." (07:02)
“America will be swallowed up into this new union. So we're not going to exist as we exist today.” (08:20)
“Their goal was to flood America with 100 million illegal immigrants...to dilute America of the Americana mindset...” (09:50)
“Trump is following a different map and it's called the Technape Map...goes all the way down to Panama Canal...ends in the tip of South America with Venezuela.” (15:03)
"Why is there such everybody hot to try to get Greenland?...Canada...is fracturing...they are actually in active talks right now...to secede certain provinces to America." (14:57)
“I am not joking. They were referring...literally says the good news that they have established 10 world regions. Watch this. Ruled by 10 persons..." (19:26)
“Elon Musk is the grandson of Joshua Haldeman who is a big wig of the Technate map...” (21:52)
"You can actually see things moving and changing and you see power centers being formed in ways that they never were before." (17:24)
"Bible prophecy...did not stop happening faster than the Biden administration because much of the church is asleep at the wheel and it's very concerning." (26:36)
"He's surrounded by technocrats...Every single one of them...is a transhumanist. And they're, they are now got the ear of the White House to advance their transhumanist agenda." (27:13)
"Modifying the human being, the human genome. Because maybe it just isn't good enough...God created the heavens and the earth and he created humanity and that's good enough for me." (27:48)
“Don’t call it Nephilim though, just call it human 2.0. OGNY's natine people be fooled.” (28:07)
Billy Crone on the Club of Rome Map:
"It's their map and it's not a conspiracy theory. So I'm going like, well, first of all, hello 10. I mean, what are the odds of that, Gary?" (06:04)
On America’s Disappearance in Prophecy:
"The elephant in the room, why a lot of us do not see America in Bible prophecy...America will be swallowed up into this new union." (08:05, 08:20)
On the Two North American Maps:
"Trump is following a different map and it's called the Technape Map...all that and it keeps going down south...to Panama Canal...and Venezuela..." (15:03)
On Unknown Ten Kings:
"The UN said there's 10 persons ready to go. And it's like, who are these 10 people? But Gary, what is this? That's the Ten Horn Kingdom." (20:34)
On Technocracy & Transhumanism:
“He's surrounded by technocrats...every single one of them...is a transhumanist. And they're...now got the ear of the White House to advance their transhumanist agenda.” (27:13)
This episode is a wide-ranging, eye-opening conversation tying together biblical prophecy, current events, globalist agendas, and cutting-edge tech developments. Billy Crone and Gary Stearman both urge listeners to be discerning about world events, warning that much of what may seem like ordinary geopolitics could in fact be fulfilling ancient prophecies. The discussion is urgent, sometimes provocative, and underlined with a call for Christians to wake up and closely watch the signs of the times.