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Hello everyone. Karen. With Prophecy Watchers here for a few Prophecy Conference updates, I want to let you all know that we have a few opportunities to connect with us through traveling in the next few months. Upcoming just in June, June 4th through the 7th, we are going to be having the Rapture in the Rockies Conference in Colorado Springs, Colorado. And it is going to be beautiful in Colorado that time of year and we have just a few in person tickets available. So if you'd like to join us in person, you can still join us there, but we do have the on demand and the streaming versions available as well. So if you'd like to hear all this amazing information but just don't want to make the drive or the trip to Colorado, you can join us virtually at the same time everyone else is hearing the messages, you'll be hearing the messages alongside them and it's going to be an amazing chance to listen to as many times as as you'd like to to these messages for the next six months. So it's a great opportunity to just really soak in the information that everyone is presenting. And with so much going on in the news, you kind of need to have the chance to be able to repeat some of these messages. We also have the Alaskan cruise, August 22nd through the 29th. We would love to have you join us there. Alaska is an absolutely beautiful place to visit and you'll be experiencing a prophecy conference alongside it. So a is a really great two for one experience. And if you'd like to join us there, you can go to prophecywatchers.com and scroll down to the Alaskan Conference link and you can sign up that way. And today I have one of the speakers is going to be at the Rapture in the Rockies Conference, Joe Hawkins. And Joe has actually recently joined the Prophecy Watchers team. He has been an amazing addition to kind of heading the substack page that we have. So welcome Joe. And would you tell us a little bit about what you've been doing at Prophecy Watchers lately?
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Yeah, thanks Karen. I always love to be on and talk with you. Yeah, just on, you know, first and foremost I've been working on the substack, doing a lot of work on that, putting articles out, videos out. It's been, you know, well received. A lot of people seem to like that. It's still new to a lot of people. So if you're still unfamiliar with it, I would just encourage you to head over to prophecy watchers.substack.com Check it out. Now. There's nothing that you have to commit to. It's just a website. Go to it. And you could even sign up for a newsletter and get your articles and videos sent to your email and you can even read those directly in your email. So that's one of the benefits and one of the things that we get a lot of people that they, they really like on the substack is the ability to be able to listen to the articles. So you can actually click the play button and have the articles read to you. Because, you know, some of our articles, they're pretty lengthy and, and it could be a task just reading them. So to have it read to you is, is certainly a blessing. So. But yeah, that, that's one of the things I've been doing and the other thing has been we've been curating a lot of news articles for prophecy watchers and we've been posting them there on Substack and as well as Facebook and that seems to be a pretty big hit. A lot of people seem to like to have the bullet points of what's going on in the world because it seems like every day there's something brand new, there's new headlines, there's something going on. And it all pretty much ties into Bible prophecy, whether it's news and AI. Whether it's. I mean, just recently we saw a couple of headlines come out about how Israel is or Ben GVIR has declared sovereignty over the Temple Mount. Right. I mean, that's pretty big news. And we've had other rabbis say that, hey, you know, I think it's time, it's time for us to build a synagogue, you know, right there on the Temple Mount. And when we start seeing those kind of discussions being had, it really as prophecy watchers perks our ears up.
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Absolutely. It's raising all sorts of flags for the Third Temple and for the Antichrist and for the Rapture and the Tribulation, because those are all interconnected in, in one way or another. So yeah, there, there's just so much going on in the news right now, it's, it's hard to stay on top of it. So having that little compilation of the major head headlining news articles is so helpful. I've been kind of referencing them for myself and going, oh wow, I didn't even know this happened, that happened. And I like to know the news. I just don't like to go to the news sources. So for someone else to kind of hand pick the best ones that are most relevant to me and to what's going on. Bible prophecy related it's been super helpful.
B
Yeah, it's definitely a blessing, I think, to a lot of people.
A
Yeah. So I know that you're going to be at the Rapture and the Rockies conference and you have a message that you are preparing for us called Fallen Angel Playbook. Seven Ancient Tactics Resurfacing in the Last Days. That sounds like just so much is packed into that. Can you kind of tell us what you're going to be teaching on specifically in this message?
B
Yeah, I mean, so definitely with anytime we talk about fallen angels, the first, first thing that probably pops in everybody's mind is Genesis 6. And of course we're going to, we're going to dive into Genesis 6 and we're going to talk about the account that happened there. But I'm also going to draw, draw in some other references from scripture that show what the time was like during the days of Noah and the days of Lot. Because what did Jesus say? He said that the coming of the Son of Man would be as it was in the days of Noah, in the days of Lot. So what we're going to do here in this message is I'm going to uncover seven ancient tactics that, that really have not gone away. They're just, now they're resurfacing because we're starting to see some of the technology come to come to light that makes it a little bit easier. And of course, being a well connected society now, we're so interconnected with social media, with television, with news, it's hard to let for anything to kind of be snuck, you know, snuck by like it was say 50, 60, 70 years ago. You can't get away with anything now. So, you know, the first thing that I want to talk about is going to be the corruption of God's order. And we certainly see that in Genesis 6. We see how the fallen or how the angels that fail, what did they do? Well, they, they. They were against the order that God had established. And we know that as a fact, because Jude 6 verifies this, that they left their abode and they, they basically wanted to do whatever they wanted to do. And that's also the lie of Genesis 3. What does Satan tell Eve? You know, eat from the garden, eat from that tree because. Not because I'm telling you to, because you're not going to die. You know, God says that you're going to die if you eat from that tree, but surely you're not going to die. And then what happens? Right. You know, sin entered the world. But through this corruption of God's order. What do we see happening today? It's so sad to see some of the headlines that we see. And it seems like we've had this attack against our children, right? Identity confusion. And people are saying, well, let them just be whatever they want to be. But how do they get these ideas? Well, these ideas aren't just. They don't come up with these ideas on their own. Right. They're taught these ideas. And unfortunately, these ideas are taught through the public school system, through politicians, and even, unfortunately, through some parents. And we've had recent headlines where this transgender father kidnapped his kids, or kidnapped his boy, I believe it was his boy, took him down to Cuba and was going to try to do gender reassignment surgery on his boy because that's what he claims that his son wanted. Right? Now, of course, the only reason that his son would want that is because that's what he was convinced that he needed to do. Right. It's. It's a demonic attack on our family. And not only that, but we've seen the role reversals with, with our, you know, between men and women. You know, these days. I don't envy, to be honest with you, a young woman these days, because to find a good man that's going to take care of her and be the man that she needs him to be, it seems like that's almost an impossibility. Because what have men. What has been happening to men over the past couple of decades? Well, they've been attacked. Toxic masculinity. Right. They've told that you need to kind of tone it down. And what have we seen? We've seen men kind of become feminized in a way, and they're not real, real men anyway anymore. And we're starting to see the women start taking this role. And this has certainly been portrayed in media. If you go back and you look at TV shows of the past, like Leave it to Beaver, Andy Griffith, you know, a good strong male model in the home, then you fast forward to the day and you have goofballs that are being portrayed on sitcoms, and the man is really not taken seriously. Right. It's the woman.
A
That male presence in social media sitcoms today, you can't.
B
You can't. Exactly. So we certainly see how the corruption of God's order, you know, from, you know, then before the flood to now, it's. It's. Maybe it looks a little bit different, but it's basically the same.
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Yeah.
B
And then, of course, you know, during that time, we also have forbidden knowledge. Right. Dear, before the flood, we see these, the, these fallen angels. What were they doing? Well, they were teaching this destructive knowledge of sorcery and divination and warfare and even occult practices. And today we're seeing the same thing happening today. And it's, like I said, it's not really gone away, but it's certainly been brought back to the forefront, especially with the advent of AI and, and we have things out there now. I'm sure most people know what TikTok is, but there's actually, I guess, a forum out there called Witch Talk, Right. And it's a forum just for witches. And then speaking of, you know, just on social media, if you look long and hard enough, you're going to find that there are forums out there, pages, Facebook pages and X pages, whatever it may be, that are devoted just to occult practices. And it's pretty, it's pretty mindboggling and eye openening to see that this is out there. And, and where did this come from? Especially now? I mean, well, if you rewind just a few years, you know, 20 years or so, you know, had the movies like Harry Potter and all these movies that really, I guess, brought up witchcraft and while you, yeah, they, they claim that it was for entertainment purposes. Well, what did the kids want to do? I mean, well, any kid that he grows up, he watches a superhero movie. He wants to be a superhero movie. He wants to be a superhero. Right. Well, you get kids that get involved in watching these movies at a young age, you know, that involve witchcraft. What do you think they're going to want to grow up doing? Well, they're going to want to grow up being a witch. And I really think that Billy Crone did a really good job in his most recent documentary, Trump and the Paradox Prophecies, because he had a couple of segments in there where he played some clips of kids and it was just the, the words of the kids that said that they wanted to be witches. And he, he probably had a good 20 or so kids that had written letters saying that, you know, I want to be like Harry Potter when I grow up. Right. It's, it's sad to see, but, you know, we're starting to see this forbidden knowledge get brought back into society today. And, and of course, what, what seems to be the Ouija board of the future, or at least the present, it's programs like Chat GPT. People are turning to these large language models and they're seeking spiritual advice from those. And actually I pinned an article for the Prophecy Watcher that's Going to be coming out in June where I talk about the techno utopian gospel. So definitely be sure to pick that up because I go into a lot of the, the spirituality of AI and how it can affect people and how people are really looking for it. And just a, A quote from that article, the chat there was a, the. I'm trying to think of the right word. I guess there's scripture that they, they portrayed. It was called transmorphosis, and they claimed that the only purpose of humanity is to birth AI like a butterfly. Right. And yeah, it's pretty. It's pretty wild to see that kind of stuff, but, you know, but right there, forbidden knowledge. You know, we saw it before the flood and we're seeing it now. Yeah. You know, and then we have influence over the nations. And I'm. And, and for the purpose of the message, like I said, seven tactics to go over in 45 minutes. That's an impossibility. I'm not going to be able to go through every single one of them with extreme detail. But what, what I'm going to do for the message is, is I'm going to blow through the first five. So. And I'll just kind of give you an idea what they are. Corruption of God's order, forbidden knowledge, influence over the nations. I mean, we, we get this from Daniel 10, the Prince of Persia and the prince of Greece. And we know that the Archangel Michael, he is the, the prince of Israel. We get that from Daniel 12 and also Daniel 10. We know that there's spiritual warfare. We get that from Ephesians 6. And we can certainly see, you know, how there are certain nations that are out there that are. It seems like they have this demonic mindset, right? This spiritual angst toward the nation of Israel especially. We're going to go into that. We're going to talk about violence and lawlessness. Genesis 6:11, it says that the earth was filled with violence. So we should certainly expect to see that as we get on approach of the day of the coming of the Son of Man, which I do believe that we're seeing a good bit of violence and unrest, you know, as we see today. And. Go ahead. Sorry.
A
Even. Even in our society, like, you know, the rise of podcasts over the last decade has taken me a long time to get interested in those. But the, the number of, just not, not even like in wars and unrest in the Middle east that we so often talk about violence and just, you know, attacking one another. But in, in America, in our homes, in our societies, there are so Many podcasts that cover murders. Murder, murder, murder, murder, murder left and right. And it's just like, oh, my goodness. Like, I, I know that it's a very popular podcast, and so those podcasts are rampant, but the number of murders that we are just hearing about is just escalating at an alarming event, at an alarming rate. And it's just amazing to just take that step back and go, you know, 50 years ago, we wouldn't have been having podcasts like this even if we had the technology, just because we didn't have that, that such high crime rate to discuss. But now we can't cover it fast enough on our podcast. And we have sometimes, you know, daily uploads of these podcasts to cover the latest events of these different trials and things on these murder cases. And it's just, it's concerning to me just that little snippet of how much our society is really being affected and how close we are to something major happening, you know, on a worldwide scale.
B
Yeah, I mean, absolutely. I teach on the side. I teach at a community college, and I teach criminal justice. That's what I did for a living for, you know, my entire adult life was I was in law enforcement. And it seems like the kids that come up and they want to learn about criminal justice, that's one of the main jobs that they want to do. They want to be a criminal investigator because they want to investigate murders. And, you know, part of me just wants to, you know, just kind of grab them by the shoulders and say, do you really know what you're wanting to get into? Or are you basing this off of CSI or these other television shows that kind of glorify this? Because it's certainly not. Excuse me, it's certainly not something that is for everybody, I'll just say that much. Right. So, but it's absolutely. It's a fascination with it. Yeah. And then, you know, and then just rounding it off, I'll be talking about sexual corruption. We know that the days of lot that was rampant there in Sodom and Gomorrah. But then the last two I'm going to camp out on. And this is where I'm going to spend the majority of my time at the conference is I'm going to talk about the genetic pollution, which we certainly saw this, you know, during Genesis 6, the hybrids that was created there, the nephilim. Right. And we just recently saw Matt Gates over the past month or so go on to Benny Johnson's program, and he verified that he was addressed by an army, by an army soldier that said that we do have alien breeding programs here in America. You know, it kind of blew over a lot of people's heads. And of course we have a lot of this UFO disclosure that's going on. I'm going to probably try to go in a little bit of a different direction. I am going to touch on the UFO phenomena a good bit, but I'm going to talk about synthetic biology, designer babies and transhumanism a little bit more because I certainly see, especially with Christopher cast 9 we're going to go into that a good bit and then the last thing is just, you know, what did Jesus warn about? What is the primary thing that Jesus warned about? He warned about deception and that's we're going to talk about massive global deception. And I'm gonna probably talk a little bit about the UFOs. LA is certainly going to be there. We know LA is going to go into that in very much detail. So I would certainly encourage everybody to listen to LA's message. But I'm going to tackle it from an AI deep fake perspective, you know, from a deception because, you know, AI deep fakes have gotten so good these days that it's kind of hard to tell what's real and what's not. And I think that that's going to play a major role in the end times. Because if you can't tell that this is me and you talking right here, we have a really serious problem and it could really affect a lot of people. Whenever you see somebody on TV or see listen to them on a radio program and you think, did they just say what I thought they said? And I got some pretty, pretty wild clips I'm going to play. And that's one of the great things about a conference like this. There's so many clips that we play at these conferences that we cannot play on YouTube because if we played them on YouTube we would get copyrighted and it would be taken down for censorship. So but at these kind of conferences we can kind of let it rip. And that's exactly what we're going to do. We're going to play some good clips, some things that maybe you've never seen before and you know, it's going to be mind blowing, I believe.
A
Yeah, well, just with your presentation alone, I mean my mind you're covering all these major red letter topics and I was just like, oh there's this to talk about. Oh there's that like there's, there's so many things that happening today that you Know, I'm not super involved in knowing, you know, what's happening in the news just because I like to stick my head in the sand and I get my, you know, news through prophecy watchers and other Christian sources like that. But just the little bit that I do see headlines on social media and on like, you know, Yahoo. News and all this, where I know it's, it's coming from a corrupt location. The. The news topics that they're discussing and just how they are dovetailing piece by piece by piece into all of the topics that you have brought up in this message that you're going to be presenting. So I cannot even begin to stress how relevant and how up to date what you're going to be talking on is in the world right now, because just the little bit that I know, I'm just like, I have a flood of information to connect to what you're bringing up. So I'm so glad that this is your topic of choice. And especially the stuff about the, the transhumanism at the end that you're going to be going into more detail. A lot of that stuff. I, I know a little bit, but it's still, still going way over my head. So that is to, to me, really cutting edge information that most of America does not know. We. We may know those words in that order, but actually the, the concept of it, what they're doing behind the scenes is evil on such an extreme level that I don't even know that we can fully grasp what it is that they're doing. So I applaud you for really delving into all of these topics and taking the time to really make it understandable for us that are going to be at the conference that haven't even understood what all is going on yet.
B
Oh, yeah. Well, I certainly appreciate it. I'm looking forward to being there and looking forward to taking in some messages myself. And, and look, I just wanted to say this before I let you go or before you let me go, actually, just congratulation on Signs and Seasons. You know, my wife and. My wife and I, we watch it whenever it drops. So I certainly would encourage everybody when you see one of the episodes of Signs and Seasons drop and go check it out, Karen's doing a wonderful job.
A
Well, thank you so much for that. I have certainly enjoyed doing these interviews, getting to sit down and just have a more relaxed conversation, to get to know a lot of these people that we know on a surface level, but on a more personal level, just getting to give them the platform for a little bit has just been such a joy and I've thoroughly enjoyed it. So thank you for those words of encouragement.
B
Sure thing. Absolutely.
A
Well, I want to let everyone know that you can hear Joe's message in its entirety and so many other messages he has mentioned. Ali Marzulli. We're going to have so many other presentations that are cutting edge like Joe's is going to be, and we'd love to have you join us. You can go to prophecywatchers.com and you can scroll down to the live stream banner and you can sign up for June 4th through the 7th. Joe, any last words, anything that you would like to mention that we didn't get to talk on before we leave?
B
Well, you know, it's, it's so much that we can talk about. We actually talked about this before we got on here. You don't want to give too much information, but you don't want to give too little. So I would just encourage everybody to, to, to get the live stream. Watch it. And of course, if you have any questions after you watch it, you reach out to us because we're not going to be able to go through every single bit that we want to in the 45 minutes because it's a lot of information. But, but yeah, definitely, we're looking forward to seeing you there.
A
Well, I am really excited for your message and if I can get away from my desk, I'm definitely going to come and watch your presentation. Thank you again for your time, everyone. I hope that this was informative and that you are going to be able to join us because you really don't want to miss this kind of information. We'll see you here, there or in the air.
Episode: Fallen Angel Tactics Are Resurfacing | Joe Hawkins | Rapture in the Rockies Preview
Date: May 20, 2026
Host: Karen (Prophecy Watchers), featuring Joe Hawkins
Special Focus: Preview of Joe Hawkins’ upcoming Rapture in the Rockies conference message, “Fallen Angel Playbook: Seven Ancient Tactics Resurfacing in the Last Days”
This episode features Karen in conversation with Joe Hawkins, a new addition to the Prophecy Watchers team and a speaker at the forthcoming “Rapture in the Rockies” conference. The main focus is a preview of Joe’s message on how ancient tactics attributed to fallen angels are manifesting in today’s society, related biblical prophecy, and the cultural and technological trends Christians should be aware of in the context of end-times discussions.
Title: "Fallen Angel Playbook: Seven Ancient Tactics Resurfacing in the Last Days"
Joe Hawkins previews a teaching exploring how seven tactics used by fallen angels, described in Genesis 6 and elsewhere, are resurfacing through modern technology, culture, and spiritual deception.
Corruption of God’s Order (04:58–08:54)
Forbidden Knowledge (09:08–11:31)
Influence Over the Nations (11:31–12:54)
Violence and Lawlessness (Genesis 6:11) (12:54–15:04)
Sexual Corruption (15:04–16:06)
Genetic Pollution (Hybrids, Transhumanism, & Synthetic Biology) (16:06–18:24)
Massive Global Deception & AI Deep Fakes (18:24–21:38)
On Current Events & Prophecy
"We start seeing those kinds of discussions [on the Temple Mount], it really as prophecy watchers perks our ears up." (Joe, 03:32)
On Cultural Corruption
"These days...to find a good man...seems like that's almost an impossibility. Men have been attacked, told to 'tone it down,' and now we have men kind of become feminized." (Joe, 07:35)
On Modern Occult Revival
"There's actually, I guess, a forum out there called Witch Talk...just for witches...there are forums, Facebook pages, devoted just to occult practices. It's pretty mindboggling." (Joe, 09:44)
On Technology & Deception
"The Ouija board of the future...programs like Chat GPT...people are turning to these large language models and seeking spiritual advice from those." (Joe, 10:15)
On the Depth of Spiritual Warfare
"It seems like they [certain nations/leaders] have this demonic mindset, right? This spiritual angst toward the nation of Israel especially." (Joe, 12:21)
On Transhumanism
"We may know the words [transhumanism, CRISPR, etc.] but the concept and what they're doing behind the scenes is evil on such an extreme level..." (Karen, 19:18)
On Information Overload & Conference Value
"So much that we can talk about...you don't want to give too much information, but you don't want to give too little..." (Joe, 21:38)