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Our next speaker and our final speaker of the day. He grew up in a world of aviation, surrounded by men involved in the research and development of aircraft. A man who himself learned to fly, was an avid pilot. His early years spent in the company of men who not only were involved in RD for aviation, but government R and D programs, some of which were highly classified. Somehow the Lord led him down a path where he became a pastor and a teacher. And let me say, it is one of the great honors of my life to now occupy a chair that was his as he was the original host of Skywatch tv, author of the book the Time Travelers of the Bible, and a man who is going to share some of the stories he heard from those men, family members involved in these classified government programs. He is the host of Prophecy Watchers. Please welcome Gary Stearman. Thank you, Derek. Thank you. And what a pleasure to be here. I want to thank Steve Quayle and all the guys for putting this on. We're sharing something really important, and my goal today, and I just want to say it right up front, is to help you become an expert in the phenomenon that we've been talking about, because Christians should be the experts. And we have the book that makes us expert. And so to begin with here, let's discuss some very evil people. I'm going to start off in a reprise of some of the things you've been hearing, and we're going to go to another place. They are the most wicked and perverse people in the universe. And in my book, I call them the transdimensional raiders because that's exactly what they are. They're outlaws. They act like outlaws. They have a background of breaking God's law. And yet, and yet we have dominance over them through the Lord Jesus Christ. And that's the bottom line. So what follows as much as anything else, is my personal testimony. How the Lord changed my life gave me insight into the hyperdimensional nature of our world. And believe me, it is. And if you've been listening carefully last couple of days, hyperdimensional is what it's all about. The world is a bigger and stranger place than you learned about in Sunday school. Anyway, let's continue to look at these people. I call them. They're here from another dimension. They pop in, they pop out, they do their dirty work. Fortunately, they are opposed by the good guys. But biblically, they're here from another dimension. I call them people because they function as a people. They're not human. You don't have to be human to Be a person or a personality. These are non human people. But they claim power over unredeemed mankind. And rightly so. They do have power over the unredeemed. And by the way, they've always viewed human beings as spiritually and physically weak. Which we are compared with them. They've been around a long time. They've got the advantage of time, eons perhaps. And they've learned their dirty tricks. And they follow their leader very, very well. And that's why when the Lord came and raised up his disciples and the church was born, it was born with a mission. Go forth and proclaim victory. And there are many, many ways in which we can do that. As a class, these people display all the elements of the wicked. Lust to greed, dominance, paranoia. Their dark aspirations constitute what we call the dark side. They're organized. They have leaders, they have lieutenants, they have soldiers. Generically we lump them under the title of demons. But they're also called the fallen ones. As well as being referred to as illegitimate offspring. Excuse me for a moment, I need a little water here. Thank you. So, let's review some things you probably already know. Go back to the Book of Enoch. Enoch tells us that 200 rebel angels took an oath led by Azazel. By the way, his name, Azazel, the leader of the 200, later became the name of the Jewish scapegoat that was sent out into the desert on the day of atonement. He's the goat. You know what the goat is? There are a lot of people walking around today that actually have the goat head tattooed on them. And I always shake my head when I see somebody like that. You know what the goat is? That's Azazel. But what these 200 do when they come forth is give gifts to man. They give man technology, hardware, metals, weapons, decorative arts. Read the Book of Enoch, you don't have to read very far very long just to get the general idea of what they did. Their way of controlling man is to give him a few trinkets. Hey, isn't that what's done? You know, you sail to some island in the South Pacific and you land with trinkets and you hand them out to the natives. Well, that was the modus operandi of the 200. Giving technology to man. Compounding chemicals, sorcery, mathematics, science. By the way, you know, they're still doing that today. They have not changed their modus operandi in the least. Jude says the angels but kept not their first estate. He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness until the judgment of the great day. Now, the fallen ones came in several ways. And what I'm doing here, again, I just want to let you know that my motive here is to lay out a picture as clearly as I can and then look at that in contemporary terms. The things that have happened, say, in the last 80, 90 years. The fallen ones came in several ways. They established themselves as the ancient gods and goddesses. They're Serbian subservient followers, are still hard at work today knowing but not accepting that they are doomed to God's judgment. Now, I'm a strong believer in perspective. Give you an example what I mean by perspective. Ah, very good. I like it, I like it. Thank you, sir. Perspective. Here's perspective. You open the Bible to page one, it says, in the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. You whip all the way over to the end of the Bible and John writes, and I saw new heavens and a new earth. So you got those two references, and in between them, a lot of pages. But at the beginning and the end, it's all about the creation of the heavens and the earth and then the recreation of the heavens and earth. And guess what? We're a big part of the story. And being written into that story is amazing. So back to the people again. Who are the people that we're talking about? Genesis 6:4, There were giants. That is the Nephilim. You all know about this. You've probably all read Genesis 6, 4 about a thousand times in the earth in those days. And also after that, when the sons of God came in to this dimension unto the daughters of men, they bear children to them. And we'll be talking about this, but I just wanted to make the point that when the Bible says the sons of God came in, they didn't come through a screen door. They came in in a way that was very specific and very special. And this becomes a big part of the narrative of the Bible. They came in from dimensions just adjacent to ours. They created dimensional apertures. And you go back to Enoch and Enoch talks about their discovery sent onto Mount Hermon or Hermon. And that was an aperture or a portal that enabled them to come in. It's probably one of the best kept secrets in the whole world. But Everybody knows about Mount Hermon and where the 200 angels came down. But there are many portals all over the world, and it is a simple portal. Biblical historical reality. When in the ancient world, after their leader rebelled, and by the way, there was a Tower of Babel after the flood and the Tower of Babel was nothing more or less than a portal, period. And they are very, very busy to this very day. The trans dimensional raiders are still very busy seeking and opening those portals whenever and wherever possible. On the group or on the individual level, I believe that, that when they make their night visits to the unsuspecting and come in their ships, what they're really doing is creating little portals. They're coming into weak spots. They're constantly probing and prying. And we're going to get into that a little bit later. The ancients referred to them as Titans, Olympians. Josephus referred to them as those that the Greeks called giants. And he used the word Titans there. And Titans, by the way. Let's see now, Gary pushed the wrong button and now we go back again. Sorry folks, I don't do this every day, but the ancients called the people who came in Titans, Olympians, and we'll talk about them in just a minute. But Jesus said of these people, you of your father, the devil and the lusts of your father, will you do? He was a murderer from the beginning. And abode not in the truth, because there's no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own, for he is a liar. And the father of it. Just wanted to put that in because we want to keep that thought right at the front. Jesus perspective on these rebellious sons of God and their leader is very, very interesting. When he sent out the 70 to spread the gospel in Judea, you remember, they came back and they were very, very excited. The 70 returned with joy, saying, lord, even the devils are subject to through thy name. And what did he do? He replied to them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven. This is maybe one of the most overlooked little tiny phrases in the Bible. But what happened? Jesus responds to their successful gospel tour with that little quizzical statement, I beheld as Satan. Satan as lightning fall from heaven. Lightning. What is lightning? Lightning is a rising warm air mass that begins to rotate and rise to the stratosphere. And as the various columns of air rub against each other, they generate static electricity. And when that cumulonimbus hits about 65,000ft and up, millions of electron volts are built up in that cloud. In other words, there is real power. There you go. Knocked down an old oak tree with that power. And Jesus sort of went out of his way here to describe Satan. Satan had that kind of force, but it was all discharged. Poof. And the cloud came down. And then Jesus said to his followers, Behold, I give you power. Tread on serpents and scorpions. And over all, the power of the enemy. Why? Because the power of Jesus slipped in where the power of Satan had failed. He exhausted that incredible power. He still had some authority, and we'll talk about that in a minute. But he didn't have his former power, Luke 10:20 notwithstanding in this rejoice not that the Son spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven. In other words, don't brag about your power, but rejoice because your names are written in heaven. We tend to forget the reason why we should be rejoicing. No matter what happens to you from here on in, as a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, your name is written in heaven and that's the important thing about it. But over all the earth, the fallen ones sell their legitimacy. Legitimacy and authenticity and their hardware, by the way. And we're going to get back to this in a few minutes, but stop and think. India is called the land of 50. Well, you can actually put as many zeros as you want behind it. 50,000. 50 million. India is called the land of 50,000. Gods. Can't name all the gods. Every village has a God and every village's God has a particular blessing for that particular village. And the descendants of the fallen ones are impersonators, people who give false credentials. They're a little bit like the guy that rides into town with couple of horses and a wagon and he opens the side of the wagon and it's a stage. And ladies and gentlemen, come back at 8 o' clock tonight and we're going to have a show for you here. And that's exactly the way these guys operate. They roll into town with whatever accoutrements and they bring what's new, what's different. And by the way, particularly during wartime, they do this going back to World War II. We'll talk about this a little bit later. There are a lot of episodes in the war that involved the fallen ones giving technology to human beings. Why? Because they were generous? No, because they wanted control in a particular society or using fabricated technology. They pretend to be from Mars or from Venus or the stars. They're always here to help us. Hi, my name is Azazel and I'm here to help you. You know, I'm here to bring you to the next level. And really it's just that simple. It's a racket. But our Lord has taken all the wind out of that racket. If you look at it properly, their Deceptive technology is being accepted and used at many levels. And you've heard Steve Quayle. And by the way, I want to thank Steve for inviting me tonight. It's a real pleasure to be able to talk to you and thank you, Steve. And the Bible calls these interlopers principalities. The Greek word is archon. The fallen sons of God have their leaders. And archon would be in military terms, a general. In corporate terms, he would be a corporate president. Powers delegated to fight authorities. Exousia. These would be the captains to the intent that now under the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church and the manifold, that is the intricate and complex wisdom of God. Paul is saying here, I want you to know how these people operate. They're principalities, they are powers, they are cosmocratoria, that is world rulers. These would be the lieutenants. In other words, they really have an army. And the Greek term prismaticus tis ponarius is manifold and organized spiritual wickedness. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, powers, rulers of darkness of this world. Spiritual wickedness in high places. They're not human, but sometimes they pose as humans. And they have tried from the very beginning to inject themselves into human society. Now why. And you've heard about the Nephilim, the fallen ones. Why would very, very powerful angels wished to leave paradise? They had it all. They had heaven, the heavens. They were ancient beings who enjoyed power and comfort and luxury and they wanted to take over the whole thing. Why would they come down to Earth and mingle with grimy human beings? Why in the world would they do that? Because they wanted to set up private rule. Much like a multimillionaire would go to an island and say, I'm going to buy this whole island. I'm going to set myself up a little duchy here. The names of the Nephilim, Rephaim. The Rephaim are the offspring of the Nephilim, the dead half humans, the one weakened ones. Some of them are some of the giants in addition to the Rephaim, which means the weakened ones are called Zam, Zuzim or Zamzumim, Imim, Anakim and all those other IMs. And all of these names indicate their eccentricities, their physical, bizarre physical qualities. Don't have time to go into all of that. Louisiana Marzulli has gone into that to a considerable degree. They looked non human and their tribes were distinctly different from each other. And they were trying to set up their little islands of power when they came to Earth. The Babylonians called them the utuku in Hebrew Shadim, which kind of comes down to us as devils. Greeks called them diamonds or akatharta ponera, which means unclean spirits. Peter called them selenia zitae, which means moonstruck. And there was a common belief, and you can read about it in history, that the moon itself was infested with demons which occasionally came down and tried to infect human beings. True or false, the idea of being moonstruck is extant to this day. Babylonian Lilitu, Hebrew Lilith, the female principle. Remember Diana of the Ephesians? The great goddess Diana, one of the 10 wonders of the ancient. She was gorgeous. Her temple was beautiful. People came from all over the empire to worship her. And her temple just happened to be three blocks down the street in Ephesus from Paul's office where he officed for three years. And you've probably read all the episodes of how he battled those who were worshipers of Diana. They're called daemonia, or nature spirits. We call them demons. Aristotle said all men have demons with them who follow them through life. Hesiod taught that cooperation with these demons would win great fortune for you. Now this brings me to Job. I want to talk about the book of Job. By the way, of all the books in the Bible, Job has been found over the years to be the most hated, particularly by the academics, because they just can't deal with the humanity, the human struggle, the elements of drama, the pathos, the love that God shows and the attention that he shows to Job and his family. It's just. It's not academic. It's a story about a man whom God used to create an object lesson. Job 1:6. No. There was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord and Satan came among them. And this is the way the book opens. And I sure you've read it. And the Lord said unto Satan, whence comest thou? Where did you come from? Satan answered the Lord and said, from going to and fro on the earth, walking up and down in it. This is the way the book of Job opens. Who were the sons of God gathered with Satan? You know, for years I used to think those were just angels. What I believe is going on here is the sons of God were the rebel angels who followed Satan. And at God's command, they gathered in a certain place. And God said, I'm going to put on a seminar for Satan and the rebellious sons of God. And what was the story? Seminar. This was a convocation of Fallen angels brought in to this seminar, this symposium, not for their own salvation, but for an information briefing. God called a meeting to school them about the nature of being human in a world of sin. And Job was the subject of the seminar. And God showed Satan what humans can be. And God showed Satan and the fallen ones what they had done to humanity. And you remember how the book ends. The book ends about God says, remember when the morning stars sang together and I laid the foundation of the earth? This is a kind of a triumphal statement from God to Job, saying, look, you've had your troubles. It's a horrific world. There's a lot of satanic force. But I want to tell you, he hasn't won. As a matter of fact, he's going to learn the lesson of his sweet life. Remember, God's angels play by the rules of fallen ones. Do not. The lesson is this is faith, love and grace outweigh power. And Job ends with a retrospective on the angels rejoicing at creation. By the way, God asks Job 60 questions at the end of that book. And you know what? Job cannot answer even one of the 60 questions, which I think is really amusing. God is saying, okay, you think you know it all. Job, I got 60 questions for you. And by the way, I don't think I can answer the 60 questions either. And if God were asking, I think I'd probably keep my mouth shut. So Christ's temptation, Satan's power is gone. Remember, he discharged like a bolt of lightning out of a cumulonimbus. But his dominion remains for a while. And this is a little episode, a little vignette, and we're getting to where we're going to go. But I wanted to lay out my view of the demonic world of the world of the fallen ones. And we read in Matthew 4. 8 Again, the devil diabolos, which means adversary, taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, shows him all the kingdoms of the world, the glory of them, and saith unto him, all these things will I give thee if thou fall down and worship me. And this is very, very interesting. The high mountain here, by the way, is like many other locations referred to in the Bible. It's a leap to another dimension and time entirely. In our dimension, you can't fly high enough to see all the kingdoms of the world. Satan and the Lord went to some other place where they could see the whole thing. And I'm looking forward, by the way, to being in heaven where you get the grand view. We back up and finally see what was going on. I'm really looking forward to that one. So. We're here tonight to share our faith and our experience and our personal testimony on common ground. We're here to validate the history and reality of a great mystery. The who, what, how and why of the fallen ones. We're very curious about this. To give Bible believing Christians a sense of their own authority in Christ. And if nothing else comes out of this meeting, that should be the message that we do have authority in and through Christ and to observe the occult and the transcendental through the lens of hope. Holy Scripture. Most of all, I want to make sure that we as believers understand that we are the experts in the spiritual. It's not any news bureau, it's not any newspaper, it's not any academic theoretician. It's the believer who is the authority. We are the experts in the spiritual. And when strange things happen and what you've heard at this meeting is the stranger things are beginning to happen bit by bit. And I'm going to get into that. And as these things begin to unfold, you shouldn't say, wow, what was that? You should say, the Bible tells us exactly what's going on. And we are experts in the hyperdimensional. We're also here to share a great mystery. There's another world or worlds immediately adjacent to our world. The Egyptians, the Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, the Etruscans, Roman gods and goddesses popped in and out all through ancient history. Everybody called them myth. Myth is just the daily news written in the old world. It was not myth at all. It's what used to happen. And until Christ's resurrection, they dominated the world. And then suddenly you notice the old gods were gone. When Jesus rose from the dead on that third day and declared, you remember he went to preach to the spirits in prison, but I think he did a little earthly preaching that we don't know about. Now here's an interesting thing about myth. Plato, if you've read the dialogues, writes about the God Poseidon, who was the God of the sea. And Poseidon came down to earth according to Plato, and he saw a beautiful woman. That sound familiar? Bible talks about it not by name, but Plato just talks about something that he believes really happened. The God of the sea came down, married an earth woman named Cleto. And by the way, he got permission from her parents. Why? Because they became very wealthy. He said, I'm going to make you wealthy. I'm going to set you up, up, beautiful home. And so they got married and they spawned 10 sets of twins. The oldest twin was Atlas, who built the city of Atlantis. And Plato says it was the most beautiful city on the earth, but it was destroyed in the great flood of Deucalion. And Plato got it all wrong. You know which flood that was, was. It wasn't Deucalion. But again, just developing a picture here of how these people operate. The only document in the entire world that brings all the elements of this story together is the Bible. Christians often believe that spiritual super beings are just concocted myths invented by cultists. But I want you to know that myth is the daily news as written in the old world. Myth is really history written by pagan priests who were themselves believers and they were trying out the best way they knew how to explain their, their religion. There were mythological giants who walked the earth. The Egyptian ray. By the way, sometimes you pronounce that name Ra, but it's really Ra. And those little beams that come down from the sun are called rays. It's kind of an interesting little historical note there. The God re, Sun God and his retinue of half human, half animal mutants. You've seen all those Egyptian paintings. What is that? It's called genetic manipulation. And it seems to have been rife in the old world. There were the Titans that Josephus talked about. Sons of Gaia and Uranus and their mutant offspring. You've seen all the, those statues and paintings of mutants, half this and half that. Centaurs, satyrs. And there were the Olympians, the sons of Zeus and Hera, and they had mutant offspring. And remember Abraham, Best day in Abraham's life is when he rejected his father's idols, his father's myths. And that at the Lord's direction, he went to a place that we call the promised land. And the rest is history. What came out of his decision to leave the old gods? Well, a number of things. The mosaic, Davidic tabernacles, the Solomonic temple. The gods were defeated. They were relegated into a cloudy history called mythology. But again, it's not mythology, it's history written by priests. Now, modern mythology, propaganda. It's found in the world of ufology. And in the last war, the people who came to power were cultists. Starting at the turn of the 20th century, moving right up through the empire of the Nazis. You had the Thule Society, the Society of the golden dawn in Nazi Germany. Demons were powers who had come to help Hitler and his troops to rise to prominence. And you know what? They were going to create a thousand year rule called the Reich. And demonology was Absolutely rife in Nazi Germany. And they had Ultima Thule, the Enchanted Land. Pavels and Bergier wrote a book called the Morning of the Magicians, describing the Nazis as nothing more than cultists. Jacques Vallee, Messengers of Deception if you've read any of these books, you have an understanding of how in the 20th century the old ones tried to come in and get a toehold again in this Christian era. That's what they're trying over and over and over again, day in, day out, 24, seven, they're trying to get a foothold where they actually lost the foothold with the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. In the last few few decades, we've had UFO visitors. We've had the Grays, the insectoids, the Reptilians and the Nordics, the tall, blonde, blue eyed guys. And I want to tell you in Oklahoma City last summer, and this is the absolute truth, the Daily Oklahoman ran a two day story on how a light, very large circular white light was seen beneath the water of Lake Arcadia for several nights. And people came down the beach to see the light under the water. And then on one night the light came up out of the water and hovered a little bit and then flew away. Now this was covered by the Daily Oklahoma and you can look it up. And on the shore of Lake Arcadia, a tall man in a white robe. The guy was about 6566, bright blue eyes and blonde hair, long white robe. He prophesied that the great ones were coming and to look up. And then he walked down the beach and was seen no more. Oklahoma City Nordic. You know, these things happen. And then there are the Venusians. George Adamski courted the Venusians who claimed to come from the planet Venus. There was a guy back in 1956 named Valiant Thor who actually appeared in Washington D.C. as a traveler from the planet Venus. He came and went, visited the dinner parties of the rich and famous and then flew back to Venus and was seen no more. And people have photos of this guy. In fact, there's a book written about him. What was he doing in Washington? Well, Washington, what can you expect? I'm just trying to tell you these old gods are still around. And then there are the replicants. There are extra extraterrestrials who copy human bodies and inhabit them. Doctors David Jacobs and the late Dr. John Mack wrote about human alien hybrids, which is another attempt to shoehorn demonic spirits into human bodies because they think that their time has come at last. These are what we as Christians would term the last days for Them this world is a day is offering a day of opportunity. Oh, and Bigfoot is hyperdimensional. I have a little footnote down there speaking of Bigfoot read in the paper not too long ago, in fact I read it in several publications. There was a guy with a deer rifle out walking not too far from his backyard. Bigfoot came through his back gate and he let the Bigfoot have about three rounds. And the Bigfoot disappeared in a cloud of light. There's no ape. Bigfoot is what the Bible refers to as rephaim, but that's a whole different story. We could go an hour on that. The Rephaim, yes, they disappeared for a while, but they're trying to make a comeback always in any way they can. Ufological history, disguise and deceit in the modern era. And here's the way it works. There have been a number of UFO waves. One in 1897 was called the era of airships. All over the world in 1897, for whatever reason, and I think I know the reason why they chose 1897. All over the world, airships were seen chugging along and sometimes hovering over farm villages. One of the most famous cases is the Alexander Hamilton case. A Kansas farmer, dairymen and cattlemen had an airship hover over his property on one occasion. And it actually kind of let down, hovered, touched the ground. And the operator of the airship came out and told Alexander Hamilton, we're making a round the world tour. And I just thought I would stop and say hi. And Alexander Hamilton made notes which he wrote about and you can read them if you look up this case about how this thing appeared to be driven by steam and how it had what appeared to be a rudder on it and it had all wheels and things that went around and around. But what it was was a ufo because the guy that was driving it had really funny eyes and he didn't look quite human to me. Well, the Alexander Hamilton case is one of hundreds if not thousands of airship cases demonstrating that when the marauders come presenting themselves, they always present themselves with technologies that's just slightly ahead of where they appear. So in 1897 they appeared with steam driven airships. Now Alexander Hamilton quite well, I respect that by the way, they still some of his cattle in a unique way they lowered some kind of a rope down that actually encircled the cow and pulled it back up into the machine. They've been doing that for a long time. Cattle mutilation goes all the way back to, well, let's see Elijah and the prophets of BAAL I mean the whole nothing is really new. The old story just keeps taking on new faces. 1947, after World War II we had another set of fakers. This time they came in flying saucers. The flying saucers were just slightly ahead in technology of the fighter planes. And when Kenneth Arnold saw the UFOs over Washington and wrote about them and he called them saucers, boom, they had it. Suddenly the flying saucer was invented. Then there came Roswell in 1947. And with Roswell came a new element. Hardware. There was hardware. The ship that crashed left tantalizing parts and pieces. I'm half in the camp that says they did this on purpose to allow people to have access to some of their advanced technology. Maybe so, maybe no. Philip Corso's book, Colonel Philip Corso was wove in and out of of the Air Force in various capacities but he found himself handling alien hardware. And he writes a whole book about the integrated circuits, fiber optics, lasers, super fibers, all this stuff that was just. Well, it was part of some wreckage and we've got to analyze it back engine near it and find out what it really is. And there was another Roswell in 1952 in Colorado and it involved hardware as well. I'm going to tell you that story in just a moment. But from 1947 and onward there was a radical change. And by the way, I don't think it's any coincidence that 1897 was the first Zionist Congress. 1947 was Israeli statehood and I think it shook up the other side. All these things rocked them off dead center and they began to be very activist during the years that Israel returned. And it was beginning to appear that Bible prophecy might be fulfilled. Excuse me. The intelligence office of the 509th Bombardment Group at Roswell Army Airfield. Now these are newspaper clippings from the Roswell Daily Record. The first one, July 8th, 1947. Mr. And Mrs. Dan Wilmot reported that about 10 bright disk zoomed over their house at 105 South Penn. The Roswell Army Air Base 509th Bombardment Group announced at noon today that the field has come into the possession of a flying saucer. And of course Jesse Marcel and his book and many, many interviews document the hardware. And again, what's the hardware? It's the same thing that azazel and the 200 brought down to humanity all those years ago, July 9th. The very next day the Roswell Daily Record reports harassed rancher who located saucer. Sorry, he told about it. That was W.W. mac Brazell who owned a ranch. He was A cowboy out there and he was the one that found all the hardware. And he told the paper about it. And the next day he denied everything. He said, I'm really sorry, folks. They weren't no hardware out there at all. Poor guy. I always felt sorry for that. Just, you know, I'm a rancher and suddenly this hardware falls and now my life is never going to be the same again. Washington Post, July 19, 1952. Washington National Air Traffic Control spotted seven flying objects seen and photographed as disks. You remember that? Well, I do. I was reading the paper in 1952 and, and, And then in Wichita, Kansas, and I'm just dropping in a few little tidbits here before we get to a couple of things I want to tell you about. Wichita, Kansas, summer of 1967. UFOs were seen all over town. I've still got the newspaper clippings. One landed at the corner of 21st and Amaden and was photographed. One landed just south of Wichita Municipal Airport and it was on the ground. The highway patrol drove across the field and got within a few feet of it and took pictures, which nobody ever saw. I'm just saying that this phenomenon has just been going on and on and on, and what I have come to call it is universal fakery, objectified. What it is, is the ploy that is used by the demonic world and call it what you will, the dark world, to try to shoehorn its way into our society as legitimate and oops. Now I'll have to go back here. What did I do? There it is. Everybody's an expert, but as I said a minute ago, Christians are the real UFO experts. And we've got the book. We've got the book that talks about who these people are, what their motives are, what they tried to do, how they were stopped once, what they tried to do again, how they were stopped another time. And then what happened in the years leading up to when the Lord came and the Lord did certain things when he. He came. And then there a new age opened up and this battle has progressed for thousands of years. And it has a culmination, which we read about in the Apocalypse in the Bible. It's really clear what's going to happen, but still they're going to try to, you know, say, hi there, I'm From Epsilon Eridani 3 and I'm here to help you. That's what they're coming constantly doing. So Satan is called, by the way, the prince of the power of the air. Now, even though his power has been knocked out, that is his lightning has been discharged. He still has authority in the atmospheric heavens when he's called the Prince. The power of the air. The Greek word for air is air. It's spelled Alpha epsilon Hro, but it's still pronounced air and it represents sea level to 10,000ft. That is the top of Mount Olympus. That's his patrol area. He's got the power of the air. The Bible of course routinely incorporates supernatural. Now you see him, now you don't. And we're talking about principalities and powers and so forth. And having said that, the modern history of the supernatural, and I'm Talking about from 1897 as we talked about the Hamilton case, by the way, there are hundreds of other airship cases. I just picked that one because it was from Kansas, which happens to be my oldest home state. But the modern history of the supernatural reads like a bad movie script really. By the way, speaking of that, the Day the Earth Stood Still, Remember Klaatu and his robot assistant gort, released in 1951 on that beautiful opening of the Day the Earth Stood still with the UFO landing in a baseball park in Washington D.C. and then all of the things that happened to him, including by the way he got shot and killed and Gort took him back to the ship and he was resurrected. And he's sort of a fake messiah figure who came in a flying saucer. What are the odds that somebody would write that story? I mean they never change. Three years after Roswell you had UFO movies by the dozen. 1953, War of the Worlds, Invasion of the Body Snatchers. 1956, the Thing from Another World scared me to death. I went on a summer night and I walked home in the dark. I'll never forget, forget that as long as I live. The Invasion of the Saucer Man. There's a classic, the man from Planet X. And then of course, Teenagers from outer Space. I mean drive in movie specials. And what were they? They were subtle propaganda laid on the post war generation. At the same time Billy Graham was out pre preaching to thousands of people, you must be born again. Meanwhile, at the local drive in we got all kinds of things. Teenagers from outer space. Dozens and dozens of cheapy movies. What were they doing? Cumulatively they were destroying the authority of God and his son, the Lord Jesus Christ, and replacing the heavens instead with beings from hell. Today we have X Men. Biggest movies in the world. The X Men, the Avengers, Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman. So they even have stolen the word apocalypse and they're making apocalyptic movies. And apocalypse is a biblical word. It Means revealing. Apokolipsis in Greek means to reveal who's being revealed. The Lord Jesus Christ. So if you use apocalypse to describe the invasion of the saucer man, you are profaning scripture. In my opinion, the last 65 years following the great revivals of the 50s and 60s, America has its increasingly searched for a hero and sci fi has provided many of them. I remember when I went to see the Day the Earth Stood still and Klaatu came and spoke to the world and he said if you don't do this we're going to reduce Earth to a burned out cinder. And the assumption was that the world would be redeemed if people began to obey what Platu said. And I, I walked out of that movie as a 14 year old and I said there should be a person like Platoo who could save the world. I didn't know about Jesus. I went to church, but I had gone to a church that never preached the gospel. It was kind of an intellectual church where they preached rather intellectual sermons. Had a wonderful pipe organ, Loved the organ music, never heard the gospel. And so Klattu was sort of my model savior until I really learned about Jesus. And it's so easy to see through what these people are doing. And I call them people because they are people. They're not the kind of people you want next door. Like I said at the age of four I wanted a superhero who could save the world and of course that would be the Lord Jesus. Now I'm going to switch gears here and I'm sort of risking my comfort level by doing this. So I'm going to talk about myself and I don't like to do that too much, but a bit about my family. I come from a family of engineers. My closest relatives designed aircraft beginning in the 1920s, all the way through the jet age. Plus architectural projects, the early versions of refrigerated air conditioning which became a well known modern brand name. All of my great uncles and uncles and, and my father were engineers of some sort. Aeronautical, refrigerative, mechanical. They were all engineers. And I grew up thinking I was going to be an engineer. The famous PT17 was the primary trainer of the Army Air force, World War II. The old yellow peril, the yellow biplane that you see in pictures all over the place. And there was the LT one designed by my uncle. It was called the light transport. It was the first airliner. American Airlines first airplane was a Stearman LT1. And my great uncle Lloyd, my uncle Glenn, my father Gail Stearman, uncles And cousins. They were all engineers and by the way, they were the pioneers in aeronautics and electronics. My uncle and father designed and type certified two light planes in Oklahoma and in Wichita and by the way, actually three light planes. There was the Stearman Hammond. But what I'm saying is I grew up in an atmosphere of people designing and building and moving forward with technology. And I thought that technology would save the world. In Wichita, at the Boeing plant, which had been purchased from the Stearman family, my uncle Glenn designed the B52 wing. Glenn was a gifted aerodynamicist who knew the Reynolds tables by heart. In his head, nobody knows the Reynolds tables by heart, but he did. And he was on a team that designed the wing of the B52. Well, you can imagine that was classified top secret at the time. You know, you just don't go home and tell everybody what you're doing. And then there was Lloyd Stearman, my great uncle, who had pioneered all this. He joined forces with Clyde Cessna and Walter beach and Matty Laird and Al Mooney and Bill Lear. Everybody had heard of the Lear jet, right? Well, these guys all knew each other. So as a little kid I admired these men and I saw myself being one of them when I grew up. And I thought, you know, there's a way to improve the world and it is through better technology. By the way, Lloyd Stearman was president of Lockheed for a number of years and he co designed the Electra. Remember Amelia Earhart? That plane that she went down in, sadly was designed by Lloyd. The Stearman's knew the Earhart family. Just as a side note, after retirement, Lloyd Stearman went back to Lockheed in his retirement years and was given the corner of a large hangar as an experimental lab in which he could experiment with exotic materials. Substrates, germanium, rare earths. Now this man was an aeronautical engineer all his life, but he spent the retirement years in his little laboratory in the corner of Lockheed main hangar every day until he passed away, experimenting with rare materials. Where those come from? Can't tell anybody where those came from. It's part of the deal. It happens that. In ways that are hard to imagine, exotic materials get transported to people who are thought to be likely development agents. And then the government rides herd over you while you use these exotic materials to develop new products. This is a model that's been used by Western Electric, Lockheed, many, many other aircraft plants. Boeing for certain. But did you ever hear engineers talking to each other? Now when I grew up, they carried slide rules. That was before electronic calculators. And they couldn't talk without a slide rule in their hand. And later, as a young man, there was a lot of dinner table conversation about UFOs. And I always had big ears. Many of those conversations lapsed into things that really shouldn't be talked about outside, outside the dinner table. Many of them are classified above top secret. And I will, just as an example, in 1952, I'll never forget this. Seems like yesterday I was sitting at the big dinner table. Dinner was interrupted by a phone call and my uncle had to drop everything, take a go bag, hit the road and be in Colorado as soon as possible because a UFO had crashed near Long's Peak, which is in central Colorado. This has never been written about and I don't know whether I'm going to get in trouble or not. I'm just talking about what I heard at the dinner table. A UFO crashed and, and it left wreckage. And when my uncle got there by airplane and by jeep, he told us later that there was a very large pile, circular pile of wreckage, surrounded by soldiers. They had tents set up. They had gathered their engineers, government engineers, and they were systematically analyzing and collecting all the materials to take back from research. Now the rest of the story is that overnight that wreckage disappeared. Next morning, the ground was pristine. Not a particle of this thing remained. The question is, who took the stuff? He always said, well, maybe the, maybe the family of the crashed people came and took the wreckage home so they could rebuild it. No, that wonderful raw material went elsewhere. And you know where it went? To our U.S. government. And there are numbers and numbers of episodes like this that can be talked about. This one I know about because it was dinner table conversation. So who took the wreckage? Do you really have to ask? I was told no. The friends and relatives of the UFO drivers came back and took the wreckage. No, no, no. Another uncle developed, another of my uncles who had his PhD in electronic engineering, helped set up the nationwide ICBM silo network, which had an intercommunications alarm system. He was responsible for that. And he said the worst problem we ever had setting this up was false alarms tripped by UFOs. And we got to know every way in the world a UFO can trip up an alarm. And what I'm telling you is just people who work in high tech occupations, occupations run across this stuff every day. Now, my aircraft background leads me to something that I want to talk about. And I'm going to take a drink of water here because I'm not comfortable talking about what I'm going to talk about. But I think it's appropriate. I always loved to fly. I still fly to this day. From 1956 until now, I've been, praise God, able to fly airplanes. And at Cessna, where I worked late in the, in the 60s, I was on the approved pilot list for every aircraft in the single or in the inline twin line that they made. And I had a lot of very interesting jobs there. I was in promotions and merchandising and I wrote and produced materials, promotional films, brochures, books, manuals, etc. Etc. And I flew to meetings and presentations and I presented new models and options. And I had been a commercial success sales promotion writer at Beech Aircraft before I moved over to Cessna. And I traveled nationwide to meet with aircraft dealers, which is an important fact that's going to come up in a minute. I developed materials like films and print, audio, video for sales use. And I loved my profession, I really did. In fact, when I was at Cessna, I thought, I'm going to be here for the rest of my life, this is where, where I'm going to retire, because I love that work. But then I took a flight that I will Never forget in April 1969 from Wichita, Kansas, Cessna plant, to Love Field in Dallas and then to Lubbock, just Texas. And you know, my job was not only to produce the materials but to help put on dealer meetings at various dealers. And I had a 207 which was about 10 hours on it, brand new Cessna airplane with all the seats removed except a pilot and co pilot seat. And it could hold about £1,000 of cargo. And I had loaded up about that much cargo to fly to Dallas and to Lubbock and drop off this cargo of dealer materials. And when I took this flight, I thought it was just going to be routine, but it was not routine. In fact, it took a radical twist. Psalm 68:17 says, the chariots of God are 20,000, even thousands of angels. The Lord is among them, as in Sinai, in the holy place, the chariots of God. And I'm just dropping this in here, dropping Hebrews 13:2 in it says, be not forgetful to entertain strangers, for thereby some have entertained angels unawares, which is a little hint about something that happened. I had an unexpected formation flight on Sunday, April 20, 1969. I loaded that 207 up and I departed for Love Field in Dallas. Took me a couple hours to get there. I landed, unloaded half of the materials, about 500 pounds, and had lunch with the dealer. And then I took off from Love Field and climbed to about 6,500ft. It was just a nice day, leisurely day to fly over to Lubbock, which would have taken me a couple of hours. And as I'm flying I expected the flight to be maybe, maybe two to two and a half hours depending on the wind. Wasn't worried, flying along and suddenly I had about five red light lights that went on all at once on the instrument panel and I began to stabilize everything and discovered I had no electrical power. So I'll just turn off the master switch, turn off all the radios and I can go on the engine ignition, save the battery till I get to Lubbock and then I can flip on the master switch and I can have all the power I need to land there. Everything will be just dandy. So I got it all trimmed up and I'm flying all and just a few minutes flying, and I hear a voice and the voice said, and I'm going to imitate it in exactly the tones that it spoke to me. The voice said, if you look to your left, you'll see a U, F, O. And I'm flying. And I'm saying that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. And I'm not going to look left. And I didn't. And so 30 seconds and the same thing. If you look to your left, you'll see a U ufo. And so I looked to my left and a couple of miles over there was a little dot of light. And I looked at it and looked at it and it's traveling at my same speed a couple of miles away. And I thought, that's not a ufo. That looks. That's an aluminum airplane with the sun shining on its wing and reflecting. So I kept watching him for a while, same direction, same speed, we're getting closer together as time goes by. And I thought, well, he's going to love it too. So as we approach the airport, we're going to get closer together. And just as I thought that thought, this thing came right up next to my airplane just like this. It took about maybe two seconds to travel two miles and suddenly it was flying in formation with me. And it was the most beautiful thing I have ever seen in my life. It was about 100ft in diameter and about 15, 20ft thick. And it had energy coursing all over the surface of it. It was just beautiful. And I felt like a presence, like it was shades of Star Trek. I felt like I was being probed, if you will, like something was going through the plane, something was happening. I didn't know what in the world was happening, but it was up close, it was personal. And as we flew along, the thing was a couple hundred feet away from me. I became so curious about the structure of this device, this machine, that I edged over closer and closer and closer and closer to it. I wanted to get up close enough to see if I could see the nuts, bolts, and screws, if it had any. And I'm going to show you now what it looked like. And I've had Daniel Wright, a commercial artist, a friend, he does work for us at Prophecy Watchers. I had him draw what I saw. And this is very, very close. Daniel even found a photo of a Cessna 207 with the same paint job that I had. And the ground beneath is the ground between Dallas and Lubbock in Texas. So this is right on the money, what I saw. And I flew along with this thing for I felt like 10, 15 minutes. And I got brave and I edged over closer and closer and closer and closer. And as I say, I wanted to find out if I could, you know, see what it was made of. And I would climb a little bit, look at the top and drop and look at them. I was just looking at all over. And it felt welcoming. It was an absolute. I felt as though I almost were in contact with it in some way. And I also felt a sense of joy, like, wow, this is great to be in the presence of this thing. I had no idea what it was doing, but I got closer and I got closer, and when I got too close, it banked toward me the wrong way and then shot back off to where it had been before, about a couple of miles away, and continued. We continued to fly closer and closer together. And as I looked, suddenly I looked around and I looked ahead and there was Lubbock, Texas. And I flipped on master switch and had enough power to do everything I needed to call the tower and land and so forth. And I landed uneventfully, Rolled off the Runway, parked, got out of the airplane and looked back to the east, and there was that thing still hanging in the air. And I almost said goodbye. I felt like it was the was watching me until I was safely down. I walked in to the Cessna dealership and there was a guy there, the assistant dealer, the assistant to the dealer. And I said, I think I just saw a ufo. And he cussed at me. He said, I don't believe in those things. And do you know you're late? I said, late? No, I'm not late. And suddenly I noticed, whoa, I am Late, the sun is nearly down. I didn't have enough fuel to stay aloft this long. And a flight of two hours had become maybe four and a half. Who knows? I couldn't figure it out. But I said, look, something happened to the airplane. It's a brand new airplane, 10 hours on it, and the electrical system failed. And after a bit of grumbling and so forth, we unloaded. He took me to a motel. The next morning I came back out and there were four mechanics and an FAA inspector around that airplane, brand new airplane. And they looked at me when I came in and saw, said, what did you do to this airplane? I had an electrical failure. And they said, this can't happen. And what had happened was that the drive V belt that drove the alternator had fallen off the back of the engine well, the pulleys were still tightly in place and safety wired. And there's no way the V belt could ever have come off. And if they found it lying on the bottom of the cowling and they just put it back on, safety wired it, I flew uneventfully home. All was well, and I tucked that in my memory chest. But, you know, my life began to change after that. I, you know, maybe you're asking, what happened? How did your life change? Well, shortly after this event, I had a shocking series of happenings in my life, including the death of a lifetime friend, my closest friend, which led me into a totally different world. Everything in aviation suddenly assumed second place. And after a very, very long transition while searching for answers, I heard a Christian pastor teaching on the radio. And I gave my life to Christ. And I pursued Christianity as I had never pursued anything. The Bible, every book I could buy, every preacher I could hear on radio or tv, searching for churches, searching for counsel, council. And over the next few years, because of my writing history, I was commissioned to edit a series of Christian psychology texts that were used by an international Christian counseling ministry. And I also edited another Christian book called I Am, which sold a few copies a few years later. I gradually. And by the way, I'm condensing now 15, 20 years after this event down into just a few sentences. I took over the teaching at Grace Fellowship in Oklahoma City and taught there as an expository Bible teacher, teaching systematic theology and Bible prophecy for 33 years, until just very recently, pressure ethics. Now, you've heard about UFOs, and they're bad. They got evil spirits in them. I gotta tell you, the good guys are out there too. And I believe, and nobody will ever change my mind. This thing saved my life in some way that I don't understand to this day. And it changed my life. I took a two hour flight which took four and a half hours. It took more time than I had fuel and I landed safely. And I cannot for the life of me remember what kind of an exchange I had with the pilot of this ufo. But it was the most uplifting, exciting thing I believe that I've ever had had. And I just wanted to relate this because they're not all bad. The good guys are out there too. I wouldn't be here today. And I cannot wait to talk to this guy one of these days in heaven. I'll tell him, thanks, I'm sure I will. I began to learn something life changing. Humankind is designed by God to eternally reside in his created universe. Look what the Lord says. Remember things of old. For I'm God, there's none else. I am God, there's none like me. Isaiah 46:10 declaring the end from the beginning and from ancient times, the things that are not yet done, saying, my counsel shall, shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure. He created the beginning from the end. He operates in many, many dimensions. And as I said earlier, both ends of the Bible contain the same statement about the new heavens and the new earth. And we've been invited to join him as he redeems this broken earth and turns it into a paradise once again for his children. You know, in First John twice, the only place in the Bible John uses a three sentence word. It's just a little word, a little sentence of three words. And here's the sentence. God is love, period. And John uses that sentence twice. The only place in the Bible you'll find it. And it blew me away when I first began to understand that answers every question you could ever have. God is love. What is love? Well, you could write a book on love. In fact, you could write hundreds of books on. In fact, people have written hundreds of people books on love. The love story, the perfect love story, is the most sought after thing in all the world. And wars have been fought over love. Nations have been won and lost. And God is love. Satan fell like lightning, but he wasn't destroyed. He was robbed of his power. And so that in a civilized and very carefully monitored way, Satan could be escorted to that spot at the end of days when he'll be stood up and convicted of all his crimes. And God did it through love and not through, through hatred and violence. And he's working his work in us through love. And not hatred and violence. And that day that that good guy flew up beside me and I don't know how to explain it other than this, but I really felt like I was in the company of somebody that loved me. I mean it was just a feeling, but was the most exhilarating thing I've ever felt. The Bible's hyperdimensional. Ephesians 3:17. Paul writes that Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith that ye, being rooted and grounded in love, may be able to comprehend with all saints. What is the breadth and length and depth and height? You notice there Paul is including four dimensions. Wait a minute. Breadth, length, depth and height. Huh? Bldh. Four dimensions. Breadth, length, depth and height. Breadth. Platos length Mikos. Depth and height is hypsos. Well, hypsos means height or a very high place or to elevate spatially as to another place. And so what Paul is talking about is breadth, length, depth and interdimensionality. And you know, it's no coincidence that Paul talked about a man. He says, I knew a man once ascended to the third heaven. Well how did he do that? Hoopsos, the fourth dimension. The Bible is a book that deals very plainly and clearly with hyperdimensionality and nobody ever talks about it. Why? Well, we're stuck in three dimensions. We do the dishes, you know, we clean the garage, we do all those things and we're stuck in three dimensions until we read the Bible. And suddenly now I know I'm a four dimensional creature just like Paul and I've had the proof. How about Paul and Philip talking about interdimensional travel? Paul talked about. He says I knew a man In Christ about 14 years ago, whether in the body or out of the body, I can't tell. Well, I think he could, but he didn't want to really give away the details of this thing. God knows such a one was caught up by the way the word there is harpazo, which is the same word used for rapture to the third heaven. What would the third heaven be? Hypsos. It would be the other dimension. We are hyperdimensional creatures, ladies and gentlemen, and our home is in a wonderful place of multi dimensions. We have no idea what a wonderful place we're going to, but it's going to be great. I can tell you. I've had just a little hint. Philip preached to the Ethiopian and when they were come up out of the water, the spirit of the Lord called caught away Philip. That is Harpazo, which means to rapture. And Philip saw Philip just left the presence of the Ethiopian treasurer in an instant and the man went on his way, rejoicing. The Bible tells us that Philip went to Ashdod like that. He was raptured to Ashdod where he continued his ministry. I'm trying to say that the hyper dimensional is the norm for born again Christians. We are the new birth is our birth into a hyperdimensional world, the world of God, time, space. And we have just the barest recognition of what it's called going to be like. But it's a hyperdimensional world and it pays to think in these terms. Hyperdimensional of or relating to a space of more than three dimensions or a trans dimensional one beyond length, width, height and time. And you know, we talked about, about these guys and this conference has talked about the transdimensional raiders and what they're doing and the evils that are abroad. And I kind of wanted to bring two things. I wanted to bring a positive view of the trans dimensional as well as your personal empowerment. You have to remember who you are in Christ. You've been raised up into a new life and, and whether you know it or not, your little toes are just twinkling across the kitchen floor. You're hyper dimensional. And you got to begin to think of yourself that way. We're the experts. And when the lights start popping in the sky or when this happens or that happens, and you hear Fox News report this or CNN report that, or what's probably going to happen in the near future is that there will be trace material from a UFO crash that'll appear with Tucker Carlson. And then everybody will say they're real. They're real. They're here from Epsilon Eridan E3 to save us. No, not, not really. Those guys are demons. They're devils. They've been doing that ever since the days of Enoch, bringing gifts to the natives. Don't believe it because our angels are better angels. Let's face it. You know, people instinctively attempt to explore the dimensions, everything from Ouija boards, transcendental doorways, ghost spirits, sound spirit communication, lights in the sky, the sci fi God gospel. But having read the Bible, Christians are the experts in this field. I can't say this often enough. We should be the experts and commune with the Lord. Say, Lord, there are some things I don't understand. I pray that you'll open my mind and my heart to who I really am and then send me out and have me do the things that you really want me to do. You know, Christians should Be the experts in this field. That is, if we study the Bible. Prophet Samuel wrote of the Lord. Something very interesting. Oops. It's going to be very interesting in just a minute. I don't do this every. Well, it's going to. Third time's a charm, folks. Prophet Samuel wrote this. And I got to share this with you. Thinking of God, he bowed the heavens also and came down, and darkness was under his feet. And he rode upon a cherub and did fly. And in Psalm 18:10, 13, same phrase concerning the Lord. He rode upon a cherub and did fly. Yea, he did fly upon the wings of the wind. He made darkness his secret place. His pavilion round about him, with dark waters and thick clouds and skies, and the brightness that was before him. His thick clouds passed, and hailstones and coals of fire. And the Lord also thundered in the heavens, and the highest gave his voice. Hailstones, coals of fire. This is a powerful God. But notice he's riding on the back of a cherub. And you know what a cherub is. They had cherubs in the temple. Ezekiel talks about the chariot of the cherubim. And it came to pass as they. They still went on and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, parted them both from asunder, and Elijah went up by a whirlwind unto heaven. And then there's Ezekiel's wheel of fire. I don't have time to read it, but look at all the number of times that wheels are mentioned. Now, as I beheld living creatures, behold one wheel upon the earth. Living creatures with. With his four faces. You've read about the chariot of the cherubim, and you read about the canopy. And one like unto the Son of Man, seated upon the throne, riding on the backs of the cherubim. The question is, why does he do that? The Lord would not have to ride on anything. He's powerful enough. Omniscient, omnipresent, omnipresent. He's all of everything, everywhere at all times. And he can fly anywhere he wants to without a cherub. But he likes to ride on cherubim. And you know what? I like to fly. And by the way, when it comes to notice what Ezekiel says, as for the wheels, it was cried unto them in my hearing. O wheel. I'd love to hear that. And you know what? I think I've seen one of those wheels. Because what do you call this, if you don't call it a wheel? I think somebody writing a couple thousand years ago would call this a fiery wheel. But I call it a celestial transportation vehicle. And it said, if you look to your left, you'll see a U, F, O. Well, that was 50 years ago, but it feels as close as today. And one day I am confident that I'll meet the pilot of that wheel and he'll tell me exactly what happened that day, or actually, what happened that day. And I will say to him, thanks a lot, by the way, we've got a coming trip. Remember Philip taken to preach over to Ashdod, Caught away. Harpazo. And remember time, space, matter, motion, length, width, breadth and height. Hyperdimensional Bible, by the way. No problem. Soon we're going to be caught up to be his servants in a rebuilt universe. And all I can say is Maranatha. Amen. Thank you.