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The Week in Bible Prophecy A Prophecy
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Watchers Podcast welcome to the Prophecy Watchers Podcast, the Week in Bible Prophecy. Want to join with Billy Crone here? Welcome, Billy Mondo.
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Good to see you, man. How you doing?
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I'm doing great and I'm doing great because of the topic we're going to discuss today, which is pretty awesome. We're going to be talking about Billy's new book and DVD series, UFOs Aliens and the Coming Mass Abduction. This is one of the. I'm glad the way you said it is. We know there's a lot of different Bible prophecy topics converging. You know, again, you know, I've talked a lot about the Red Heifer Third Temple. We talk about digital cashless society, new world Order. But this really is one of the mega topics that needs to be addressed because. Well, let's talk about that. So here, you know, again, you put a lot of work into this. Why did you spend the time to address it in, in a, in a prophetic basically paradigm?
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Well, because I'm convinced it has everything to do with Bible prophecy related issues and topics. Now again, it's called UFOs Aliens and the Coming Mass Abduction. We titled it that way on purpose, the Coming Mass Abduction because the world will look at it as a mass abduction. But the Bible calls that event the Rapture. But that's why in the Rapture is what a Bible prophecy related topic. But I'm convinced based on the research and my own personal experience prior to becoming a Christian that these things are demonic and they have been slowly, methodically, over decades have been worked upon to put a print into people's brains that when you see a mass abduction, it was just the aliens and UFOs that that's what happened to your loved ones. No, it was the Rapture and that's the first deception that they are dealing with. But again, the Rapture is what a Bible prophecy related topic. You look at also their behavior and all they do is just tell lie after lie after lie. All they do is come up on the scene and they denounce the scripture. They denounce biblical Christianity, the biblical God Jesus, even himself. They say there is no need for salvation, there is no sin, blah blah, blah blah blah. And they also promote the Antichrist kingdom and stuff of that nature that we need to submit to a global leader, a one world government, one world economy to bring peace to the planet. Well, what's that, right? Number one, Jesus said Matthew 24, speaking of the time of the seven year tribulation, watch out that no one what deceives you. First thing he says, first thing he says before he talks about the wars and rumors of wars and families and pests. It's a time of great deceit. That's what these guys do. So that's a Bible prophecy related topic again. What are they coming here? They're telling us to basically in essence support and work together to build an Antichrist kingdom, submit to a global leader in a one world government, one world religion, one world. What's that? That's a Bible prophecy related aspect of the Antichrist kingdom that's going to be implemented in the seven year tribulation. And on and on it goes. It has everything to do with Bible prophecy. And so that's why we deal with it, because it's a scriptural issue.
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I think too that as we, you know, this has been a fringe topic for a long time and you know, conspiracy theorists, wackos, whatever, blah, blah, blah, you know, a very again, small element and even in the secular world. But there's a couple. There's several things that I've seen over, over the past really 10, 15 years. And one of them is again, in my, in my just following of the astronomical community in the sense of, you know, being a subscriber to Astronomy magazine and other things that I was shocked going back probably 20 years, how so much of the focus of Astronomy now and research by NASA and other groups, even the European groups, that the idea of exoplanets, the idea of even again now we were talking in another context. People can get a PhD in astrobiology because they're looking for evidence of life on Mars, biology on Mars. They're looking for biology or microbes in the oceans of Europa, you know, a moon of Jupiter in this regard, where there's heat there. They're so desperate to find any sort of life anywhere in maybe vents in the ocean. Vents, you know, deep in the ocean. So that's one aspect of this whole astrobiology effort to find life. And I want to talk about that. Well, maybe let's talk about that now in the sense of what's the premise here as it relates to evolutionary mindset and the other things that you've seen,
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but it's based on the live evolution. These guys. It's not that there's a lack of the evidence for the existence of God. They don't want there to be a God. They want to follow their ungodly desires. They're willingly ignorant. They're going to believe something that dumb on purpose. And again, dumb on purpose what's that? Well, with all due respect, how much dumber can you get? That we came from the goo to the zoo to me and you. And because you got to go back as the issue of origins. All right, well, who made that goo? Well, it rained on the rocks for millions of years. Okay, well, where'd the rock come from? Well, you know, and so really a lot of reasons why they. They are gravitating more towards it because it's basically, it's a replacement religion. UFOs and aliens, the whole premise of them is a replacement religion based on the live evolution to try to explain away God, the God of the Bible and things of that nature that we came from him. But basically part of that is because again, they want to follow their ungodly desires. So that's why they don't want there to be a God. The other aspect too is the last many years, because of the efforts of Christian scientists in the Christian creation movement has been doing a very good job of bringing out the evidence for intelligent design.
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Exactly.
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That there's no way that any. This came from the gu to the zoo to me and you. That this is all designed. Well, in the rebellion, they still don't want to be a God. So aliens become that convenient excuse. Well, we didn't come from God because we all know that can't be true. So if it wasn't from the Guru zoo and you, me and me and you from some random chaotic event, then it was the aliens.
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Panspermia.
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Panspermia. And so we actually have a section in there dealing with that lie. Panspermia. And how ridiculous that is because.
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So those might not. Panspermia. Pan is the Greek word for all sperm, is the idea of seed.
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Right.
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So we were seeded like, you know, S E E D D E D from these other beings. They're the advanced ones. They came here how many zillion millions of years ago, seeded us, started evolution, kickstarted it, managed it, watched it, blah, blah, blah. So go on.
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And now they're back to help us in our time because we've gotten a little astray. And as our, you know, original creators, they're here to help. Yeah, what a bunch of baloney. But again, it's just made up baloney. Just like evolution. There's no evidence for this whatever. Plus it doesn't solve the origin problem because. Oh, so we came from the aliens. And some people say that they deliberately did it, some say that they dumped their trash. There's different theories. I don't know if you come across Them for pants where they were flying across their atmosphere and they dumped their trash. Now that trash became the good of the zoo to me and you and they kickstarted evolution. All that baloney. Or it was a deliberate thing that they did. Or they, or they even heard some encounters that they had the apes on the planet and then they sped up the process with apes to create human, you know, all that baloney. There's no evidence for it. But anyway, point is. Okay, so bare bones, let's go back to the issue. If you say it's straight up evolution, we came from the goo to the zoo and me and you who made the goo? Well it rained on the rocks for millions years. Okay, so we came from the rocks. Okay, well where'd the rock come from? They call that the X factor.
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Yeah.
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Which is a fancy smancy way of saying we have no stinking idea, but
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we're going to fill in the gaps
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with our own theory and we'll just make it up. So, but, but so panspermia. So they get around the intelligent design, so they think it's dumb on purpose. Willingly ignorant of the evidence that when you see design is something applies to the designer, I. E. God, not aliens. But anyway, the aliens don't solve the problem. All they do is shove it further down the line. Because again, all you got to do is logically use the brain that God gave you and say well wait a second. So you say we came from the aliens. All right, who made those aliens? Well that was another race of advanced aliens. All right, well who made those aliens? Well that was another event. And all you do is just keep going back. But at some point who's the original alien? Where they come from, you don't escape the ultimate issue.
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Right?
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Something cannot come from nothing. If there ever was a time when we had nothing, then we would have nothing. But we have something so logically tells you we came from somewhere, that is someone.
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And I will say this because this is where logic people don't think anymore is if you go back to the middle ages or even earlier, it goes back to the unmoved mover, you know, the original. This is, this is, this goes again just Middle ages people are recognizing to think through this we had to come from a being who is self existent. It just has to be that way. Otherwise again we're nowhere.
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Right. Well and again that's the bare bones definitions of a supreme being. Even the secularists would have to admit if there is in fact a quote supreme being, what makes them supreme above all? Well they're everywhere present, right. They're all knowing, they're all powerful and they're self existent. And you say, well, why is that so important? Well, because if they were existent upon somebody else for the existence, then they're not supreme then. Right. So it's just pure logic. Right?
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Pure logic.
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Yeah, exactly. And dare I say, common sense. Common sense, right.
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Which hopefully is pure logic. Not anymore.
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Yeah, exactly. But, but guess what? The Bible tells us where there was a time when there was nothing ex nihilo. And out of that nothingness, because you can't have something out of nothing, there was someone, God, who is self existent above the time and space. And there was no time. Because in the beginning, God in the beginning, time. Time is a great thing. We know that scientifically. You can, you can slow down time, you can warp time and do things of that nature. Time's a great thing. Most people don't think of it that way, but it is. In the beginning time, God created time and the heaven, space and the earth, Matter, time, space, matter. And that's the very first verse in the very first page of the Bible. Good science. Yeah, good science, right. Good logic. Right. So again, God is the one. That is where we came from. But this all a sidetrack issue to get people to disbelieve in God. Even though the evidence is overwhelming that from, I don't care, take a tree to a flea, to a bee, to you and me, we were intelligently designed. If I were to tell you that my watch. I found my watch. Mondo. I was driving into the office and I saw in the ditch on the side of the road, there's something caught there, a gleaming gleam. I stopped and what it was a watch. And I still work to this day, you know, maybe about 12 moving parts. But you know where it came from? It came from over millions of years of exfoliation and wind and erosion. A lightning bolt struck it and out spontaneous combustion came this watch. If I were to actually say that, what would you say? That's ridiculous. Right? I'm never going to listen to you again. You're a wacko. Right. Well, that's a watch with 12 moving parts. You mean our bodies with 50 trillion cells with all of our organs which all had to be there working all the same time in order to fully function dead. And that ultimately, when we listen to your version story, you trace it down to not just the goo, but the goo came from where it rained on the. We all came from rocks. Come on. Right to what makes you. Don't be A rockhead.
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Your chapter in there was, was, was excellent and just talking, helping people to see, again, this wasn't even your words. You were just showing the conversation by others necessarily, and the weight of it. For those that are willing that that's the willingness, willing to consider the obvious facts and common sense. They're like, yeah, okay, well, and again,
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that explains our society because you're. When you look at the evidence and I tell people, listen, I'm gonna, I'm just saying, are you really what I call intellectually honest? If you're intellectually honest, if you really want to know the truth about anything, then you gotta let the facts speak for themselves. All right? And so I tell people, if you're, if you're intellectually honest, then you got to let the Bible speak for itself. Right? And then when you let the Bible speak for itself and then you compare it to genuine science, not made up science, you see that they, they work together because God doesn't tell a lie. Right. And, and so you, and so then when you take a look at the evidence in science that agrees with the biblical account, logic that agrees with the biblical account, philosophy that agrees to the biblical account, then you can't just downplay that. You can't ignore it. You're not being intellectually honest, you're being dishonest. But the Bible says. You know what you call that? You're willingly ignorant. You have chosen to believe something dumb on purpose. That we came from an ape when there's no evidence of that, that we came from the goo that ultimately came from the rock. You want to believe. Listen, who's got more faith here? I believe in the evidence of intelligent design, that God created us, just like the Bible says.
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That's what we experience in real life all the time.
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Exactly. Rather than that we all came from a rock and where, Doctor by random process. I don't know. X factor.
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Yeah, yeah. And you know, it's not a, it's not a cliche that's wrong. Is that it takes more faith to believe in which again, faith is evidence of things unseen. Right. It takes more faith to believe in a system that has been postulated that is unseen in our. Anything that we experience. That order comes from chaos, whether that's a soup, a primordial soup, which again, there's no evidence for where. Again, no answers for where that came from.
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Yeah. But let me add this one little thing and the reason why I think it's important to deal with this, and we deal with this pretty much towards the beginning and exposing the live evolution. Because again, that's their premise, they're higher. But stop and think about that, Mondo. When did the lie of evolution begin to permeate the planet? Until now it's become the only basic view that's allowed, dare I say, in spite of the evidence to the contrary to other sciences, including geology. And like you said in astronomy. And it's like. And even in the biology, the medicine world is like, how can you maintain atheism when you take a look at the complexity of the bodies? But whatever. But this has been going on for about 150 years since the time of Charles Darwin. Right. So think about this. And this is why it's important. It not only builds the premise for the lie of aliens, that they're higher evolved beings from outer space, but that was really only the first step. So the next step, the bigger step is then they become, once they get accepted that this is even a possibility. And you can't do that until you laid the planet with this evolutionary foundation.
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Yeah.
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Then you set them up for the next lie. And that is, well, everybody knows they're real and that's what happened to those people who disappeared. Right. So think about how slowly, methodically Satan is. He started with the lie to explain away the rapture of the church 150 years ago. But that's whom we have to deal with. That's who he is.
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See, you know, as you were talking, the whole idea of the alien, the panspermia, these other beings that are saviors, it's all been built to explain the rapture, which was to explain origins, also to explain a beast system and to give credence to. For them to be the ones to bring order out of the chaos of this mass abduction or disappearance which we know is the rapture.
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Right, Right.
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Yeah.
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And again you look at back, what is that? That's deceit. That's lives, lies, deception. Where does that come from? John, chapter eight. That's from Satan. Satan's a liar. He's a father of all lies. I may not have been there, obviously. And you weren't there. None of us were there. When Charles Darwin comes up with this lie and he's going around in his HMS Beagle boat there and looking at beaks, looking at beaks of different birds. Right. And that will. Because that thought came from somewhere and it wasn't the spirit of God, because that's a lie.
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Well, and even prior to him, you, you have. Which I think again goes back to, you know, Charles Lyle.
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The long ages.
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Yeah, the long Ages, the uniformitarian idea that we see Peter, amazingly in second Peter 3. So the Bible is amazing how it warns us of these. But you need the long ages for evolution to work. And then so you have two Charles, Lyle and Darwin coming along to do this and setting the stage. The e. What do you think now? I mean, we're watching again, going back to 1850, even before watching this. And now the. Over the last, let's say from 2017. Again, this has been fringe, the aliens fringe. People could ignore it, whatever, but now there's been this soft disclosure. Now we're having meetings in the government, in the, in our very own Congress. So if you're listening to this, your Congress now is having these meetings over
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and over and over.
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Tim Burchett's been talking and wanting transparency about all these things. But now it's becoming government governmentally accepted or endorsed of something out there. But it brings the attention. Now it's in the mainstream, I guess is what I'm saying, versus the fringe. Now it's in the mainstream. That contributes as well.
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Yeah.
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To the preparatory nature of people believing this when it does come.
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Well, including a third Charles, or dare say Chuck Schumer, you know, he's there to help us out, wonderful Democrat guy and he's going to help bring out the disclosure. But, but no, in all seriousness, that's another reason why we wanted to hurry and get this out because. And this, this was my feeling for if in fact UFOs and aliens are going to become the excuse to explain away the rapture of the church, which I'm convinced, then what would you expect to happen on the world scene just prior. If we're getting close to that event. Right. Then I would expect at some point we're going to have to see a flip of the switch from what we've seen for the last many decades. You talk about, like I said, this is something different going on. I don't think it's by chance. And for decades it's been absolute denial, complete denial, not just of UFOs, but aliens. Oh no, that's just crazy. That's whatever. Right. Even though Hollywood and the second education is building that mindset. But the governments is where I'm going with this. The government's. Oh, no way. Never, never, never. But like you said, all of a sudden something flipped and all of a sudden we're seeing right now governments around the world, including our own. First it was just UFO aircraft. You know, they're UFOs to UAPs and. Right. They're trying to Change this. Okay, yeah, okay, yeah, we're out there. Then what's happening even more recently? They're going to the next step. And the next step is, oh, it ain't just UFOs, it's aliens. These creatures we've been working with, we've been interrogating them right behind the scenes and they're non agreements have been struck. Exactly. And, but this isn't like joe schmo.com wacky ufo guy.org you know what, you know, this is from our own government. But, but should it surprise you, if you understand the game, the end game and the end game is you better come up with some excuse for the Rapture. And you've been denying this whole time while at the same building the mindset in people's minds with the live evolution. But that was just step one, the ultimate step is this is the excuse explaining where the rapture. So what should you expect? We at some point, if, if we're getting close to the Rapture, you should see the government going from denial to admittance, including the means of aliens. And that's why we wanted to get this out quick because that's happening right now.
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It's happening right now. And you. So you know, in the, in the, in the book and the dvd, let's talk a little bit about the, you know, in these sections we've talked about a little bit of the premise and the religion, the lies. But you have another part here section communication, abductions, emotions, actions, possession. Talk about the. You have here on the title a mass abduction again, which is a reference to the rapture. But let's talk about what people might not know is the reality of abductions that have been examined by Harvard scientists, others that are. They're looking at these, these abductions which has, setting the stage as a foundation for the final massive abduction. Talk about abductions.
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Yeah, well, again, yeah, as you mentioned, we have a whole section there dealing with that aspect. And again, if you, if you just, if you're intellectually honest, you deal with the facts, including the facts coming from these critters. When you lay it all out, they begin to explain by their words and their actions and their behavior who they really are. Again, you can call yourself alien all you want. They're really a demon disguising themselves as alien. And part of that is because they've trained us to be anti biblical, anti God. And we don't want to believe in supernatural. Don't talk about demons. You're a wacko. I don't. We believe in science nowadays. You know, follow the science, all that mantra, blah blah blah. So they still got to do their dirty deed and that's what they're doing. So they just, oh, we're not, we're not demons. People freak out and be afraid. That's too obvious. We're an alien here. It's the same thing. But they tell you that. And part of the reason why we know that they tell you that is, you know, you mentioned the communication aspect, right? You're supposed to be this higher technologically advanced race and you'd think that if you're here to help us with this information we desperately need at this time in mankind's crisis, which is what they say, well how about send me an email or let's come down and have a conference, you know, like we're doing right now. Let's do a podcast. So let's have a cup of coffee, let's talk about that, you know, send me a text, you know something. Oh no. The only way we can get this information is they literally have to. A person has to get into an altered state of consciousness and these beings come inside of them and they speak through them. Excuse me, that's demonic. That's a demonic practice that God forbids because it's a mediumship. That's when demonstration possess somebody. And that's what these things do. It's like you're supposed to be this higher advanced race but you're resorting to an occult technique that God forbids because it's demonic. That's a big clue. Another thing is they want full on possession of people. They want to take over people's bodies. And typically when, when that happens, sure enough, just like the biblical account, when you see people possess, they go insane, they go further away from God, they propagate evil and things that lead people away from God and, or kill themselves. And that's the exact same thing when people have encounters with these things. The other thing too is what's really wild. And I'm convinced only the Bible gives us the answer. But of all things for these critters to do to people when they abduct them. The in secular ufologists even admit this is oftentimes the people are subjected to sexual experimentation.
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It's very common.
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And that has just been out there for a long time. As crazy as that sounds. You're like well what's that? How's that a demon? We'll go back to what Genesis 6 and you got the sons of God, the demons, cohabitation. So you're dealing with the Nephilim issue. Now, the reason why that's important is because what did Jesus say in Matthew 24:37? As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be at the coming of the son of man. What was going on the days of Noah? So that we know that it's getting close to the second coming of Jesus Christ. Well, number one, Jesus said there, Matthew 24, it was a time again people were scoffing about God's coming judgment. They were eating, drinking, business as usual, giving in marriage. That's our world today. You and I try to tell them about, hey, man, better get right with God. I got to get to work. What are you, wacko? I'm getting married next week. I don't have time for this. Right. You know, all that stuff. So that's here today. The Genesis account 6 tells us another sign of the days of Noah is it was so evil that the thoughts of man were continually wicked all the time and grieved God's heart. Well, I believe we're there as well. There's the thoughts of. You can't go anywhere. There's evil everywhere. You can't. You know, as a Christian, you almost want to blindfold yourself. And not just your eyes, your ears. It's wickedness everywhere. And people think it. It's just so we're there. But it's that third aspect that people kind of shy away from or have never been taught or just skip over and they don't realize what they're reading. But it talks about how these demonic creatures were mingling with the daughters of men. Out came some sort of a hybrid
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issue, if supernatural interference that involved genetic manipulation.
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Exactly.
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And which was sexual, obviously.
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Exactly. And so then again, go back to these guys. Of all things you're doing to people.
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Yeah. Weird, huh?
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Is again, where have I heard that before? Genesis, Nephilim, demons. Right. You're doing the same thing. And the reason why that's important and the reason why we deal with that, as crazy as that sounds, because Jesus said it. I didn't. You're going to see a repeat of this behavior right before it come back and put a stop to all of it, basically. Right. And. And so that's another sign, though, that you're dealing with some sort of a. A demonic entity because they're doing the same thing that the demons of old did. They're doing it again today. The way they communicate, you'd think you'd give us something we could use. But you're here to debunk Christianity, say that Jesus came from the ETs. That's where he got his power. Satan's a good guy. Followed the Antichrist kingdom. That's really. How about a cure for cancer, right? How about solve some world crisis? You come all the way over here to debunk, to try to debunk only the biblical version of creation. The existence, salvation alone through Jesus Christ, the need of redemption. And then you promote the Antichrist kingdom. You say, Satan's a good guy and then you cohabitate like demons of old. In the Genesis 6 account, really. And again, as you see, there's like 14 chapters. We just, we slowly begin to, if you're intellectually honest, prove we provide the evidence. And this evidence is coming from them. This is coming from their camp. This is coming from their alien mouth, you know, and things that nature, this is what they are saying to people. This is from all over the world. This is their actions. And so we just cataloged it all and as we bring it forth, then we compare it to the scripture going like, okay, as if six reasons didn't show you what you're dealing with. Here's another one, and here's another one. And here's another one. And then that's why we end though on. Okay, I get it that this is a demonic deception, but where is it going? Bingo. Explain away the mass abduction. Now see, that's what they're going to tell the world. The rule will be told, oh, is that you funds? Oh, is an aliens. That's what we saw with the mass abduction. The Bible calls it the rapture. And it won't be from aliens. It'll be from Jesus coming to get his bride.
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You know, and it's interesting too because the, the whether all the movies that we've seen, again the of abductions happening, it's conditioning everybody to think in terms of, of these other beings doing abductions. Let me ask you this. So on the COVID of your book, you got a craft there.
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Yeah.
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Do you anticipate a craft appearing and being as physical as this table?
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Well, there's two things. And we actually demonstrate either scenario because based on the research, based most importantly on the scripture and the character of Satan and demons, but again, also their own messages, they're telling people they are preparing themselves to explain away the Rapture. I have no doubt about that. And we document that very thoroughly. But it wouldn't surprise me that right after the rapture to further get people to buy into that lie, that they don't appear. To use the phrase, when we disappear, they appear.
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Yeah. Louisiana always says we go up, they show up.
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Right, exactly. And so, and so that, well, how are they going to do that? And so we actually have a section on there with two different angles. Both are very viable. Now, I'm not going to say that's safe the Lord, because we're going to be gone.
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Exactly.
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But they're very viable. Number one, they. For years people have talked about something called Project Bluebeam and where the governments around the world have the ability to do these mass holograms that they could do. And so imagine when people are visibly leaving and then they go into the clouds, okay. They're at the Biblical Rapture. But then right after that, next thing you know, you see around the world ships of massive size, like citywide size, coming out of the sky and just hovering there in the air.
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Right.
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Right afterwards. Right. And you're going like, could they have that technology? Yeah, a lot of people. Oh yeah, Project Bluebeam, darpa. But we also bring out this other aspect and we actually interview military folks and they just shared with us declassified military information. And just the declassified. The rule is we are at least 50 years behind actual technology, and that includes flying technology that they could use. So whether it's a Project Blue, Blue Beam hologram that appears after the Rapture, not physically, or government, military aircraft around the world that, dare I say, is alien like and. But it's legit. You can touch it. Right. That could be utilized as well. So either one's possible. Now, again, I'm not saying thus saith the Lord, but it certainly starts to make sense. Right? Because these people, they don't know the timing of the Rapture no more than you and I do.
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Because when you say these people. Which people?
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The people that are working with these critters. Who believe.
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Who believe? Yeah. Okay.
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Who believe that the message that they're saying, and dare I say people, are the occult, the New World Order folks. They, they want a one world government, they want a one world religion, they want a one world ruler to govern the planet. And that's the same message these guys are saying, see, if you want to bring peace to the planet, it's basically man's version of utopia. It's the lie that we don't need Jesus Christ, the Prince of peace to bring peace to the planet. And that's the only way it's going to happen. That's in the millennial kingdom. It's basically their version of a pseudo millennium. Right? So after the Rapture and you get all those nasty people in the way they're restraining influence, those Christians. Lights gone, as they would say, holding up the harmony of the earth. Right. As soon as they're gone, these people that, that they. They think it's a good thing. Get rid of those troublemakers. Finally got rid of those troublemakers.
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We can advance right now.
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We can finally bring in this. You know, there's different names for it and New world order. That is not a. I remember I came across this in our study on Satanism. That is actually a term that's been around for a long time in early forms of Satanism called Theosophy from Madame Blavatsky back in the day. And they were referring to. And Theosophy believes Satan's a good guy. Lucifer the light. And he's come to show us how to bring peace to the planet. We don't need Jesus. That's the rebellion. But anyway, so that's way back in the days when that was so New world Order. Age of Utopia. Age of Aquarius. Remember that song? Right. But they're talking about man will do it. Man work. So these people are part of that camp. That's the same message from these lying aliens. Really repackaged demons are saying. So they think it's a good thing. That's what they want. So here's my point. So then visibly appear or disappear. Go up Christians. And then they use either actual technology that we are not privy to, but this alien like way advanced would probably freak us out if we could see what they really got. And that's coming from the military guys interview and then. And. Or Project Bluebeam. And. And the deception is set. The deception is set because you. And you think about human nature. Human nature in a time of crises is you will gravitate towards pretty much any excuse just to maintain your sanity.
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Yeah. And order.
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And that's just human basic nature. But think about this. This isn't just some excuse. Think about when the rapture happens. When people literally and dare I say even in this context, visibly disappear. You can't stop it. It's going on. It's a global shock and awe. Right. You better come up with something real fast to explain that away. And again, this isn't just some lame excuse. You could probably come up on the scene. People are in such shock. And all you can say I know what happened to your loved one. This was some secret agent program from Jeff Bezos of Amazon. And these are the people who resisted the Amazon prime account. You know, when you come, whatever. Okay, yeah, I'll believe that. Just to maintain sanity. This Isn't just some limit excuse. It's been slowly, methodically foisted upon us. Started 150 years ago, more with the live evolution, Charles Darwin moving forward just to get that mindset to lead to the next mindset now that there's aliens evolution out there. And then you could explain this away. But. But as soon as that happens, here comes spaceships in whatever form, right? Maybe they land on the White House lawn or whatever. And other places around the world, Mondo people will fall for it just like that. And this is what demons are doing. They'll never equate it with even the Rapture.
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No. There's been so much blindness, right?
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And then, well. And dare I say, you know who's a. Who's at fault in this too? The church who refuses to teach on prophecy. You think that's by chance?
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Nope.
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No way. No way. The time when this is getting so close to explain away the Rapture. For decades now, we've had the church that will not even preach on that or some that would say, you and I are complete wackos. And we need to symbolize books of the Bible that talk about this, including
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revelation things and heresy and just stupidity. And you said something I want to go back to because the premise of what even of the title, this, this mass abduction, it reminds me of again, the movies where you have a craft that has a light, a beam, and it's drawing up this person slowly, visibly, there they go. The tradition, I say it's a tradition of all of us, even our brothers and sisters, that the typical thing, and I've spoke on this on our YouTube channel, is that is there an instantaneous disappearance? All of a sudden, boom. The rapture happens. I look around and there's clothes on the ground and all the bodies are instantaneously disappeared. And the people are wondering, and we've had movies about it left behind. And all of a sudden they're like, where'd they go? Where'd they go? Where'd they go? And they're looking in their room, they're looking in the cave, they're looking underground. Where these people go that instantly disappeared. I don't think that's what the way the Bible describes it. That's an interesting theory, but the Bible describes it in a different way. Let's talk about that. Which would seem, again, more apt to what we're seeing as it relates to the condition, which is a visible, watched, observed gathering of the church where everybody sees them go up somewhere. So it's not like, again, I'd have to go look in my closet or I have to go look over here or look in the forest. No, we know where they went. We watch them visibly go up. So that's very different than the typical left behind disappearance. Let's talk about that.
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Yeah. Well, again you look at the biblical account, when people go to heaven visibly. It's just that it's visibly. Of course. You look at the two witnesses in the seven year tribulation. Visibly. People see them, it says Revelation 11,
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their enemies watch them ascend. Uses the word Harpazo.
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Right.
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Being being brought up.
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Exactly. And then you look, of course, the ascension Christ, Acts chapter one. How did he leave the planet and go to the right hand Disappear, Right? No, he visibly went up.
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He was witness.
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And it specifically says there in Acts chapter one, that the disciples were looking up in the clouds. And they were still looking at the
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clouds when he disappeared. That's important.
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Right?
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He disappeared into the clouds, therefore was no longer visible as he slowly went up. Watched him.
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Right.
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The rapture is we are gathered in the clouds, which then we become unable to be seen.
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Right.
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Go back to Elijah.
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Yeah.
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Elijah is. They watch him go up, Elisha watches him go up. It's not a disappearance. He watches him go up. And then as Jesus and the church into the clouds and maybe Revelation 11, the two witnesses, even Elijah, as they disappear in the clouds, everybody sees they're in the clouds and then all of a sudden, boom. Potentially.
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What? Which think about that. That's a perfect counterfeit for the evil one, because it says there in Acts 1, after they're looking in the clouds, Jesus goes to the clouds. They get. And they're still looking. As they're still looking in the clouds, angels appear from God.
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Yep.
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And say, hey, why are you still looking? He's going to come back the same way. Right. Now, wouldn't that be like the enemy? Can't say, thus saith the Lord, we'll be gone. Wouldn't that be like the enemy? So the disciples, they look up in the clouds. They're still looking at the clouds.
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B
Or humanity's looking at the clouds. Right.
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And then a ship. Last time, God. But what is it? Last time it was holy angels from God declaring, why are you still looking up there? Let us give you the answer to what you just saw. Demons show up on the scene in the form of aliens and UFOs. Let us give you the answer of what you're looking up there. Complete counterfeit. The exact opposite. Shocker. That's what demons do. But following a biblical pattern exactly.
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Yeah. To me it's fascinating. Especially again, even on your cover you have beings going up and it looks like into a ship. Which again is to me, as we said earlier, you know, we go up, they show up and they explain, hey, let's talk about that explanation. So they show up, we're slowly the whole world watches the church go up into the skies and disappear into the clouds. And then let's say hypothetical read it, which is that I think is scriptural, but possibly a ship then appears out of the cloud and says hey, by the way, we had to take these people out of the off the earth because. Why?
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Well again, if you listen to these critters coming through demonic means of communication, what they, There's a couple different things. They say that it was kind of a, a mercy rescue operation in that these people were to, they use kind of some new age terms if you're familiar with them. They were not of the higher vibration as the rest of us. That they were not able to handle spiritually the time they were hindrance. Right. Some will say that there are a hindrance to what we're trying to accomplish. But they, but they always say this, but don't worry about them. We, we got them in kind of quarters, we're taking care of them and quote, we'll beam them back down when they're ready at a later time when they, when they can handle, oh yeah, you know, the time of Earth changes and this new utopia that we're going to bring to the planet now, which again simultaneously not only explains away the rapture, but at the same time it makes those left behind thinking like oh yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I'm a super spiritual, I can handle it. They couldn't. Yeah, yeah, that's right.
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Those great Christian, they were so narrow in their views. Right.
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Aren't you, aren't you glad they left? You know what, you're right. They couldn't handle but us. Yeah, yeah. You could see people's pride sucking that light up.
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Oh yeah, right, absolutely.
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And, and because you know, there's already this anti Christians bunch of wackos. If weren't for you, it's going to be great. You're always holding things back. Every time we want to do something, all of our behavior and you're always calling it wicked, you're always saying it's wrong, you know, so look, antiquated, whatever, but they say that they're, they're not hiring evolved enough spiritually. They don't have a high enough frequency vibration or whatever. But again they do they pacify well still you miss your loved ones. But don't worry, don't worry, we'll bring it back down later. So that's the excuse that they're building into. That's why we had to suck them up because they would have messed up this wonderful utopia. And we were preparing and so they
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have a, again, we have the conditioning all throughout, you know, again, the last 150 years, evolution. Even Hollywood media, now the government to, to, to set the stage for an explanation of a mass abduction which we call the Rapture, but also the need of an explanation. Not only because people are gone, but secondly the ensuing chaos.
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Right.
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And out of chaos there's. They're going to have a solution to bring order. Talk about that.
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Well, and we end on two sections there. The Vatican involvement with this, believe it or not.
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Oh, which was amazing. I mean.
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Right?
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Yep.
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And then also the occult expectation because again the new age, the occult, which I came out of, and I was of that camp before I got saved, I would be the first one to tell you Christians are stopping the harmony of the earth. Christians are the ones messing everything up. If it weren't for those Christians, we could have peace to the planet. So the Christians are gone and but what they, what they pitch, we need to follow one world ruler, one world government, one world economy to bring peace to the planet. All the religions, everybody needs to come together. Right. I didn't even, it wasn't until after I got saved. I'm, I'm reading through the scripture and I'm going like wait a second. Every one of those things is a pillar of the Antichrist King, the seven year tribulation. So, and of course I never put it together because it wasn't saved and I wasn't going to be reading the Bible. So. But the occult wants this to happen. The occult wants Christians to go away. The occult says Christians are the ones messing everything up to create their own utopia. So, so we, we deal with this and their game plan, where I'm going with this is their game plan is what is this? And believe it or not, they, they weave in the appearance of UFOs and aliens and this is their words. Imagine a time when you see the disappearance of millions of people all over the planet. And at the same time, all of a sudden the stock market, the global economy truly crashes this time. How can it happen at the same time? Imagine officially World War three breaks out the Middle East. Imagine at the same time a couple dirty nukes go off in some major cities around the world. Imagine at the same time, you know, all of a sudden there's massive earthquakes, which by the way, there is technology to trigger those most people don't know. But imagine all that happened at the same time. What would people do? They would freak out like never before. It's a global shock and awe event.
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It's a shock and awe.
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And you know what they're going to cry out for? Send someone, anyone, I don't care who it is, as Remember that was it Spack, Benjamin Smack, the guy in the 50s, he said, be he God or the devil himself, we will follow him. Right? And so you think about this. This is all coming to play. But they think it's a good thing. But again, it isn't just the shock of the Rapture. It's if in fact they use. Because they don't know the timing, but they're prepared, they're waiting so that when it happens, then they can bring, whether it's military aircraft or Project Blue Beam or both, and then create the World War III scenario. Drop a couple dirty nukes, crash the economy for real. Because it's all, it's all sitting there ready to go.
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This is the great reset. This is.
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Thank you. Right now you're getting back into Clash Schwab. It's all full circle now, right? This is because they need a crisis to manage the outcome. Right? But. But what people don't know, and this is what we're excited to get this out. Believe it or not, as crazy as this sounds, UFOs and aliens are all a part of this. Part of the. So, yeah, but, but why? Because you've got to explain away the Rapture, the coming mass abduction.
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You know, again, if anybody. This is the importance of this topic because again, it's not. It's not the end all of. All of prophecy, because there's a lot of parts in prophecy in different categories. But this is an underlying fact that's gone back a long way. That is, I, I think, of course, lies, a lot of lies and deceptions. But all. It's amazing that all of this plays into explaining one thing. The removal of a millions and millions and millions of people in order to set the stage of the chaos, but also to bring the influence to guide people to this one figure or what really in the beginning, you know, the 10 kings, the 10 figures in that regard, who then, you know, work with, certainly the Antichrist. But that it's. It helps us to understand the truthfulness. Why, I guess I'll say. Let me say it a different way. Why Would all this stuff happen if there wasn't a need? If the rapture wasn't true, there wouldn't be any need to explain what they've been conditioned to do as it relates to a removal.
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Yeah, exactly. And if in fact this is going to become the excuse, what would you expect? If it's getting close.
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Yeah.
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What we're seeing happen right now, government
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disclosure and other things.
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Full on disclosure, not just of the spacecraft, but aliens themselves.
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Yeah. And. And again they. So you think about again, astrobiology. NASA's totally switched over exoplanets. Everything. I mean, every magazine I get now truly is. It's all about. They always have a section on exoplanet astrobiology in my Astronomy magazine. You're like, okay, of course evolution is there and you have uniformitarian and panspermia and all these other things completely. Then you have all the Hollywood contributions. Now you have a government. So there. Right. There are six or seven things that are meant for a very convenient explanation of the mass abduction of Christians being removed.
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Yeah. So when that event happens, and again when we disappear, they appear, people will already be programmed to come to the planned conclusion. They're supposed to think it has nothing to do with the Bible, has nothing to do with Christians. Don't even think the word rapture. It was aliens.
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B
Yeah.
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That's what caused that massive.
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So in the random chance that somebody just happened to come upon this podcast and is hearing all this and they're connecting, maybe they've been in the new age like you have.
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And
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what do you two things tell? Talk to them, what do you want them to do about this? And then what do you want the Christian to do who's been hearing this?
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Well, one for the non Christian, you need to ask Jesus Christ to forgive you and to trust that it was his death and his death alone on the cross that will forgive you of all your sins. And the Bible says that if you confess Jesus Christ as Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him to the grave, you'll be saved. You need to get saved because there's only one way out of this mess that's coming to this point planet. And it is. And the aliens are not our saviors, they're demons. You're being duped and have discernment for sure. Exactly. And, and I will say, you know, we didn't even talk about this aspect, but there is one way on record 100 of the time, even this coming from secular ufologists, to get rid of these critters when they come their way. It's when you rebuke them in the name of Jesus Christ to flee. And they do every single time for the true born again Christian. But if you're not a Christian and if Jesus Christ is not your Lord and savior, these things can come your way even today, even before this mass abduction. And you're toast man. Been there, done that. Wish I went and bought the T shirt we didn't get into.
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I've had how many years you spend
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it spending the new age way too long. Probably a good at least solid five years of going down that route. And, and I will tell you from experience, when they show up on the scene, it's completely demonic. Absolute utter terror. I've experienced the sleep paralysis and things of that nature.
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B
And you weren't dabbling. I mean it came to where you tried to take your life several. It's not you weren't dabbling, you were all in.
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Oh, I was all in. And dare I say we even bring this out. This might sound weird, but, but follow the evidence. Be, be intellectually honest, deal with the facts. Even a mere belief in UFOs and aliens as they portray themselves can invite them in. Right? It's like people who get involved in the occult, you want to mess with that Ouija board, you want to go and get do a seance, you want to go and have your palms read and all that's all occult crap that is that invites demonic activity lickety split. Same thing is with these guys. Why? Because they're one and the same. But for the non Christian you need to realize you need to receive Jesus Christ, your Lord and Savior and then have the benefit of being a born again Christian so that even if these critters do show up your way or try to mess with you, then you have the authority as a Christian in the name of Jesus Christ to rebuke them. So there's hope is really one to one. Again, there's hope for escaping what is to come. And that's why God tells us these things in advance so that you would be saved from it before it's too late. And that the benefit of being a born again Christian, that in the name and authority of Jesus Christ, even if you are dealing with demonic issues because it happens, then there's still hope because you don't have to be a slave to these things and what they do and the evil, you can rebuke them in the name of Jesus Christ. Number two for the Christian, what I would say is get equipped on this issue because you might say, well I'm A Christian. I don't need to know about UFOs and aliens. You guys are really off the deep end now. You need to do it for your loved ones, your neighbors, your co workers. Because again, the stats are.
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B
Because they're being drawn.
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Bingo. Because you need to get equipped on this. Because there is a biblical premise and a biblical answer and a biblical solution to this.
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B
Right.
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And you are doing a disservice to the people around you when you say, oh, that's just a bunch of wacko. No, because something really is going on, they know it. And the fact that you don't admit it, that doesn't help our cause as Christians. Christians should be able to give a defense for the hope that lies within us. No matter what accusation comes our way, no matter what scoffing, no matter what we. And guess what? There's a fantastic biblical premise. That's what this is all about. To be able to answer. Because they're being enthralled with this. Again, as I mentioned before, UFOs. More people believe in UFOs and aliens than they do in the existence of God. More people believes that aliens, and this is the United States of America, believe that aliens have landed on planet Earth and Jesus is the son of God. It's a new religion for people. So you might think it's bunk, it's baloney, whatever, is that, Christian. But you need to get equipped on that because I'll guarantee you, you got family members, neighbors, co workers who are sucking this up, who are falling for this lie.
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B
How could they not? The whole media, the culture, the Hollywood, all that's already.
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Exactly. And we need to be able to, intellectual, philosophically, dare I say biblically, be able to track with them and say, yeah, I agree there is something going on. Yeah, I agree there is something being withheld with us. Yeah, I agree there is an agenda. Yeah, I agree there, there is something. You can't just all write this off as swamp gas or, you know, some weather balloon that was, you know, you can't do that. But you need to get equipped as a Christian say. But let me tell you, based on the evidence, what it is, who it is and why they're here now, and dare I say, what a great way to share the gospel.
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B
Oh, this is. This is.
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People talk about putting it on a silver platter for us from God in these days.
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B
Well, these are interesting topics that I'd say maybe in the church, maybe they have their, their fear of talking about these fringe, but the, the world doesn't. They find it fascinating Especially younger people. Yeah, they're very into this. I mean even the COVID itself, they'd be like, oh dude, that's a cool cover. You know, what's that about? Yeah, I mean here we are.
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Right. Well and to, to use the deal because we had obviously the non Christian in mind to this because we also want to share the gospel. We want people to save, not just equip the church, but to be saved. And Mondo really that's also the play on the words that we want to do. UFOs and aliens and the. What if we would have said in the coming Rapture. Yep. What would the non Christian do?
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B
They would. Yep.
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That's one of those Christian books. Yeah. And we weren't being to be deceptive, but we want to reach as many people as can. And basically that is what the rapture is.
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That's the way they're going to describe. Yeah.
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And so. But it's also for them. So like you said, they could pick this up and hopefully get encouraged. But again, don't wait for the non Christian to come across this material. Get it now as a born again Christian, get equipped and you can share the material.
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B
Yeah, absolutely. Billy, always fun, always good time.
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You too man.
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B
Yeah. And for those listening today, appreciate you listening to the week in Bible prophecy we're talking about. This is absolutely relevant. We're seeing the government come to be. So this isn't a current. This is a current event and you can check Billy's book out prophecywatchers.com UFOs, aliens and the coming mass abduction. Hopefully you've been encouraged by this and learned some things and also been inspired to look deeper. So appreciate you listening this week and catch us next time.