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Hello everyone. Karen. With Prophecy Watchers here. As you all may know, it is that time of year again. We have a conference that is very quickly approaching in Colorado Springs, Rapture in The Rockies Conference, June 4th through 7th. We have a few in person tickets available still if anyone would like to join us. It is going to be a beautiful time of year to visit Colorado Springs and if not, we have on demand and streaming available as well for anyone that isn't able to make it but still wants to take advantage of these amazing messages. With everything ramping up right now in the world with Bible prophecy happening left and right, it is so important to stay on top of these topics. And today we have a fan favorite joining me to discuss his topics. Billy Crone. Thank you so much for being here today, Karen.
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So glad to be able to chat with you. It's always fun, not only with the interview, but behind the scenes. And if anybody's wondering what goes on behind the scenes, too bad. We have fun. Anyway, good to be back, man. How you doing?
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Really well. And I'm extra grateful that you're able to join us this time around because you are busier than busy right now. Let us know what's going on in your world right now.
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B
Yeah, well, we just got back from teaching in New Zealand and man, that was a great thing. The, the remnant down there just came out of the woodwork literally all the way, even from the south part of the island, Christchurch, all the way up. And of course we were in Auckland, the northern part. And once again it's the same story that you know, people are just, it's the apostasies in high gear. No matter where you go around the world, they can't find a church. They can't not just find a church, but church will teach the truth. Everything's completely gone. They're not being lazy, they're not being, you know, picky, super picky. It's just there's no option. And so as you know, a lot of these trips and, and Mondo now Ken coming on with Prophecy Watcher has been traveling for quite some time now. We again, New Zealand. There, there was home, churches got started and the man people got saved, man. There was this one guy, I mean he was, I don't know if you ever been there when somebody gets saved. It doesn't happen every time obviously. But this was one of those times the guy named Ray that he literally, literally changed right before he buried eyes. I mean his countenance, his whole face, everything just, it just like a veil came off and he was a brand new person. He. It was just so awesome. God did such a great work there. And what were we doing? We're just teaching the Bible, Bible prophecy. We gave the gospel and people respond, what a concept. All the things that the church is not doing this day. And then it just so happened. Just prior to that, the Lord led us as a ministry, to start a new ministry, get a life church. And the Lord had, through these trips with Mondo and Ken and going around the world, reaching the remnant, God put it on my heart to go be their shepherd. So I resigned from a position in Vegas. Been here 15 years. It's been a great relationship, is a smooth transition. That church would be fine and. But basically, over the years of traveling around and running into these Christians, our remnant brothers and sisters that literally have no church, after we would get done speaking and Monica and Ken can attest to this, hey, the people are coming up to you and they're like, hey, man, you're basically a pastor on the fly. Because they don't have a pastor. It's not just they don't have a church. They don't have anything that goes along with that scenario. They have nobody to give them counseling, nobody to pray with them, nobody to encourage them. It's not just the teaching, it's all the, the pastoral ministry. And so after I'm done speaking, I'm over here in a corner giving a couple of marriage counseling their marriages on the rocks over here. I'm done with that. Here comes somebody, they pull you in that direction and they say, hey, ma', am, my, my child is teenagers going through a hard time. They're wanting to commit suicide. What do I do? So we praying, giving counsel on that. Another person, hey, man, my loved one is hooked on drugs and you know what to do or spiritual warfare, all this stuff. And so what people don't realize is in a lot of times in these places we go, it isn't just going in there and teaching what's not being taught. And that's great, but it's behind the scenes. It's ministering to people who have no church and no pastors. So all that said, I think God even prepared my heart over the last several years of doing that with Mondo and Ken, the guys reaching the remnant to, okay, somebody needs to be their shepherd. Okay, so God put on my heart to step up. And so we started Get a life church people can join us live every Sunday, 10:45am Pacific Time in the United States. Uh, there's an opportunity for you to Send in your prayer request. We take communion once a month, every Sunday. We also have an opportunity for you to become a member. And that's right, you can get your own genuine. Get a life church member certificate. And we encourage the remnant to get out there as we should as Christians, and share the gospel. Because if people get saved, then you can come bring them back. And guess what? Now you can start to build the fellowship. The only thing that we can't give you, we can give you God's word. I can be your shepherd. We could. We could fellowship together with communion. We could. We have a prayer team, send in your prayer requests, but we can't give you that fellowship. But also if you're out in the world in the week and you run into another remnant Christian, then again, bring them back and you could start to basically build that home church, even if you start with just one. And then I'm not kidding you, I have to constantly remind the folks that what you're doing is not illegal in that. And just really this. And I just go back obviously to the scripture. How did the church start? Car in homes.
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Yeah.
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And guess what? We're in the last days. And so we've gone full circle now. Now it's going back to homes. The one missing element for these remnant Christians is they had no shepherd. Well, here we go. Get a life church. I get the privilege of being your shepherd. And it's great. God's already doing a great work. A lot of testimonies coming in. People are being encouraged. They're getting excited again. They're. They're thanking the Lord for what he did. Put it on our hearts to do this, because they said, it's been a long time now I feel like I'm a part of the church again. So it's, it's just a great work again. This is hot off the press about a month ago. And. And here we go.
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That is amazing that you took this initiative. It probably would have been so much easier to just stay in the job that the role position that you already had is nice. It was cushy. It was established. You knew what you're doing from week to week. And now all of a sudden, you're just plunging yourself into this whole new realm and really starting from scratch in so many different ways. But the lives that you're impacting and the ways that the people that don't have home churches that still need that shepherding, that, that guidance and that leading, I cannot imagine how many countless people are going to be blessed through you being willing to follow the Lord on this new adventure. And what better pastor could they ask for? You are so solid in your teaching. You are so well equipped to bring truth and light and guidance to all, all of these new Christians. So thank you so much for being willing to do that. And I. I can't imagine how much extra that is putting on your plate, but I will definitely be praying for. For peace and for guidance for you and just an extra level of freedom to be able to bring more to these people than you probably have been for the last 15 years at the other church.
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Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And. And, and again, Karen, that's the Lord. He's the one that put it on our hearts. He led us. And. And again, I really think he prepared my heart because when I would go to these different countries and still going to these different countries, and I. And, and. And again, Mondo and Ken can contest or attest these people, every time we would leave, Karen, they're literally crying alligator tears and they're clawing on us and literally saying this two things. I kid you not, it's completely unscripted, but it was the same scenario wherever we were. Around the world, they're crying and saying, thank you for coming, thank you for teaching, but please don't go. Please don't go. They didn't want it to end because again, they don't have a shepherd. They don't have. It's not just the church. They don't have a shepherd. The other thing is, then they would say, realizing that, well, hey, we gotta go, we gotta move on. And then they would say this. They would look at you with tears and they would say, please don't forget about us. Now that. Even now, that breaks my heart. And as a shepherd, I think that's part of God's preparation is who's going to shepherd these people. And we live in a days that we have technology, we can do it. And I don't think it's by chance what we're dealing with here with the Remnant is a side effect of a Bible prophecy issue. It's called the apostasy. The apostasy is in high gear all over the world, not just the United States. Right, okay. But at the same time, the apostasy is going on in high gear, unfortunately, God's given us technology to still connect with each other and still get the job done. And so again, God gets the glory, he gets the credit for all that. We're excited about it and, and we're encouraging people as we continue to speak around the world. But hey, if you're part of the Remnant or if you're a part of Get a Life church and you're in the area, please come on out. And then we get to have some physical interaction and prayer time.
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Absolutely. And as if you didn't have enough on your plate, a little birthday me that you're also working on a movie.
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Yes, yes. Oh, man, it's been a long time in the making. And actually it started with traveling around the world and been in prayer for many years because, you know, our ministry, Get a Life Media. What's the tagline? Sharing Jesus Christ around the world one piece of media at a time. And so media is whatever. It could be a book, could be a documentary, it could be a sermon, it could be an interview. You know, it's media. Well, movies are a powerful medium, so we've been wanting to launch this army of the teaching ministry, Get a Life Movies. And so it's begun. And I was traipsing around, been in prayer for the right director, gone through many ones, and boy, was that a journey. People professing to be Christians and saying, yeah, I want to do this for Christ. Then you get down to the nuts and bolts, it's like, okay, what version of Christianity did you sign up? Because it's not coming from the Bible. Anyway, so finally I was down teaching in Australia and ran into the now director, John Prescott. You may know him. And, but man, he asked me and Mondo to come into his studio when we had a break and if we could do some interviews. So I said, yeah, sure. So we get there and as soon as I get in the studio, I see his cameras and setup and I'm going, ooh, hey. And so I was like on him like a fly the rest of the time there. I says, hey man, you ever shoot a movie? You ever shoot a movie? So long story short, sent him back the script. We've been ready to go with the script for a long time and, and he jumped on board and so he came out and last summer and we did a pre production trailer and so that kind of got the ball rolling and we just started filming the first of May and we're going, Lord willing, all the way to the first of June. So it is a crazy mad dash. It's one of the most exhausting things I've ever done. But I, I, Karen, I'm telling you, we, our goal is we are not interested in making a cheesy Christian film. And we have, the Lord has provided, we have spared no expense. We're using Top notch Hollywood cameras, top notch Hollywood lenses. We have an absolute phenomenal crew, experts in lighting and everything. And I keep telling my wife this and I says, I know this sounds dumb, but this is the only way I can describe it. Every time I look into one of the cameras, the, the viewfinder, I'm going like, hey, that looks like Hollywood. Anyway, so, so it's an. I can't wait, man. I can't wait for people to see it. So we're still filming the next stage. You'll be editing, of course, and then we're looking at an initial theater release and then after that we'll probably offer streaming and, and things of that nature and DVD of course, what have you. But it's called Turning Point is what it is. Turning Point. And it's a message of revival. And so we picked a sim because that's what revival is. Revival, first of all, is for God's people, not the world. Right? It says there, if my people. Who's that? That's God's people. Will what? Humble themselves, pray, seek my face and turn from your wicked ways, Then God will heal the land. And that's what I've noticed over 30 years as a pastor. And that if a church even preaches or teaches or prays for revival, they've got it backwards. It's like, yeah, God, go get those people. No, no, no, it's my people. It's God's people. Until the church gets their heart right with God, nothing's going to change in our country. Nothing's going to change around the world. And so this is really depicting that biblical truth. And so basically we picked a church that's full of sin. The sin we picked is racism. Talk about a hot topic. And so we also expose fakers in the church, including church leadership. Super stoked about that because it is going to be clearly declaring the gospel. And so I'm excited about not just the Lost Watch, but the, the lost who are going to church services might even be behind the pulpit. And, and so we expose all that and basically the sin gets dealt with. Turn from your wicked ways, then revival happens and the community begins to change. And so it's a great opportunity to share the gospel and to share the truth of how revival really happens. If revival for America or any country is ever going to happen spiritually, you've got to do it right. It's not the world getting right with God, it's the church getting right with God, then the difference will happen. And hopefully this movie will be a part of that.
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Well, if anyone can pull it off, I know it's going to be you because the world does not need another Christian film where they're being preached at. But it sounds like you are so aware of that and you have the technology and the ability and the gifts and the people to be able to pull off a film that is going to attract people from all backgrounds and all beliefs. And these topics are, it sounds like very hot button topics. And it's going to pull people in, they're going to be intrigued. They're going to want to hear what this film is going to say about these really relevant issues. So I'm super excited to see it and I'm so thrilled that the Lord has put this on your heart because we need Christian filmmakers that are not just going to present an hour and a half long story that is the last thing that we need to bring non believers into the, the theater.
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Yeah, yeah. Usually the biggest complaints that you get from Christian movies is it was cheesy, low budget, which adds to the cheese factor unfortunately. Bad acting. And man, I'm telling you, every, even the bit part subpart actors on this, top notch, top notch professionals. I mean just, it's phenomenal. It, they're blowing me away. So. And then of course the, the content. One of the things, even if most Christian movies aren't cheesy, if you will, and maybe even has some decent acting, here's the problem, Karen. They, they gut it of any spiritual depth. They, they, they neuter it. They, they, I call it selling out. They wimp out. Right. And, and I've confronted this. I can tell you stories and just other projects and, and this is always what Hollywood wants to do. But we're independent. You can't tell us what to yours. We're not relying on you for nothing. So. But what they'll do is when it comes time to quote the person getting saved or in theory sharing the gospel, it's something like this. And God, I know that now that you love me and I accept that that's not the gospel, people. Hello. So the whole point if your goal was we're making a movie to share the gospel, it you go throw it in the trash bin, it's going to burn up. That's not the gospel. Right. And so we're very stringent on the spiritual truths, not just the message of revival. But there's going to be more than one opportunity to share the gospel, including to churchgoers. And the goal is as long as people made it to the point where the gospel is being shared in this movie. There's not one excuse and not one person who ever watches this in the theater or later, Lord willing, who is not going to know what exactly, exactly to do to get saved. We're, we're being that blunt about it because the thing is this, we want God's blessing upon this. And if you wimp out on his scripture, then forget it. We, we want, want it to be empowered by God. We want this to be a fruit in his hands. But it'll never happen if you don't tell the truth. The truth is what sets people free, not a watered down version because you're trying to placate. Well, somebody might get offended or it's being too preachy. I don't care if you call it preachy. We're here to share the gospel and whether it makes you mad, upset, I don't care. Go make your own movie. We're here for Jesus Christ. This is get a life movies. And we're showing people how to get a life through Jesus Christ. Now through a movie that is.
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I just, I have no words. I just, I'm excited for this. I think this is going to be so impactful and exactly what the film industry needs, whether they know it or not. And 99 of the film industry does not know about it. So props to you. I, I hope that this project, this whole month of May goes as smoothly as possible. I know all sorts of snafus can happen on set and you just, you just try to keep it to a minimum, but life still can happen.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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I'm just extra thankful that you're able to join us this year at the conference because with all of that, I don't read much else, have time to travel to beautiful Colorado Springs, but you are going to be joining us, Lord, darling. And I would love to hear a little bit about the messages that you're preparing in the midst of doing everything else for us to hear. And the first message is Trump and the Ten Horned Kingdom. Yes, tell us about that.
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Well, I tell you what, that's off of our latest documentary, Trump and the Paradox Prophecy, which is the sequel to the Trump and the Stargate prophecies. But there's three topics we deal with. Trump and the Paradox prophecies, and that is the Ten Horn Kingdom, the days of Lot, the days of Noah. So the Ten Horn Kingdom is the very first one that we deal with here. And basically Revelation 17 says in the seven year tribulation, the whole world, we're going to go from about 200 some countries down to 10 regions. And those 10 regions are going to be ruled by 10 guys. And then when that's established, it clearly says there, then they're going to hand all that over to the Antichrist. Now, what most people don't realize is Trump's a part of that. Whether he's doing on purpose, I don't know. I don't know the man personally. I'm just saying it's happening. And we, we. We got to talk about it. And so we basically show people from the early 70s with the club of Rome map that was started by Claus Schwab, the World Economic Forum. I got him on tape admitting that he's the one that gave him the start. So as far as the early 70s, they decided with this great reset, which is basically taking over the planet, one world government, cashless society, you know, the mark of the beast system, they can relabel it all you want. That's what it is. And so back then, they produced a map in order to properly manage the planet. And, Karen, they just so happen to split the planet up into, guess what, 10 regions. Right? So we take everybody on a journey geopolitically and show you not only that, and that's exactly what Revelation 17 prophesied 2000 years ago, but they clearly say, and I got screenshots, the plan is, guess what in those 10 regions. Well, guess what? Ruled by 10 people. I have the screenshot from the U.N. it's like somebody's following the script or something. But so. So we basically show that that journey begins with the European Union, that's number two on the map, and continues on to be the cookie cutter model. And every single union of the Tin Horn Kingdom union has been working on, and most people don't even know it. And the European Union is 1993, but they never stopped. They've continued to do all the other unions. And here's the BombShell, including number one on the club of Rome map, and that's us. The plan is that America as we know it will disappear. We're going to be swallowed up with Canada and Mexico. And this is where it spills back over into Trump, because he's creating, as we speak, a new North American union. The only difference is he's taken it a little further south. And so you look at the decisions that he's doing, and again, I'm not saying he's necessarily doing on purpose. I'm just saying America as we know, is changing. You could call it the Monroe Doctrine, you could call it American expansionism, whatever you could say it's for military protect. And I'm not against the military and I'm not against taking care of our country. I'm just saying at the end of the day, as America as we know it is not going to be what we know, it's going to be combined into a new union. Right. And this is why Trump, when he, he started talking about all of a sudden Canada being the 51st be like, what? That's kind of weird. Well, because that's on the map. That's part of the new union. This is why he's so hot to trot with Greenland. Why? Because that's on the map. That's part of the proposed union. He's gone down and taken Panama, he's gone down with Venezuela and then even Colombia and Mexico. It's on tape that, hey, if those drug cartels keep it up, we're going to go after them. And you're like, well, why would he go down to Venezuela and talk about Colombia? Because Colombia is right next to Venezuela and that's the southern tip of the map that Trump is following to create a new North American union. And then it's already been stated that as soon as he's done with Iran, where's he going? Cuba. Right. Which he's already putting the squeeze on. And you go like, well, why would he go after Cuba? Because it's on the map. And so, so again, that's the message is, man, talk about current events and they just keep, keep, I, I, I'm not a fan of Dora the Explorer and praise God, that was one thing that I wasn't tortured as a parent, having to watch with my kids, but I hear that people were and I hear that there was all these goofy songs that get stuck in your head, including that one with the map. And it was just dancing around saying, it's the map, it's the map, it's the map. And I keep telling that to people. I says, listen, once you see the map, you don't need to be a prophet nor the son thereof. You don't, you can accurately predict where they're going to go next. And sure enough, Karen, 100%, not 50, not 75, not 19, 100% of the countries on that map that's creating a new North American union we're going after. But at the end of the day, it's number one of a ten horn kingdom and it's all being put together right now and that's going to be established in the seven year tribulation we le prior so all that means is, hey man, we're going up pretty soon and we better get motivated.
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So these, these 10 kingdoms that you're talking about, they are not going to be established officially until after the Rapture, correct?
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Yeah. They get finalized. They're officially ruled by 10 people. Right. Which to me implies. Is that something you get to vote on? They're appointed by the text. It's just. They get ruled by 10 people. Who are those two, 10 people did you get who gets to vote on them? There is no voting. Right. Are we voting right now on any of these actions, with all due respect, of going to get Venezuela and are we voting on any. No, it's just happening. Right. So at the end of the day, that's what's going to happen. But once it gets established in the seven Year Tribulation, then they hand it over to the Antichrist. And we know with the Antichrist, 2nd Thessalonians 2 says he cannot appear until we disappear. So if they're going to hand it over to the Antichrist, then obviously it's got to be when he's around. And that's not until after the Rapture.
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It's very interesting though, that Trump is already discussing about all of this and how it's going to be affecting America. And so, you know, whether or not he knows that these are the rumblings of what is going to be very shortly happening. So to me, if they're, if they're bringing it to us, how many steps ahead are they actually in, in bringing this to fruition? So it's a very big warning sign that the Rapture is about to happen. That's very intriguing.
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Yeah, it, it has to be. And again, this is what we see, this is what we bring out in the documentary. Not just the North American Union, but every single one of the other ones, the nine number two European Union is set, but all the rest of them, there's like a Russian Union, there's a Japanese Union, there's a Southeast Asia Union, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa Union, South American Union, African Union. It's all in play. Right. It's almost like the last one that's really needed to go is, is the new North American Union. And that's in play now.
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Yeah. Wow. That's exciting and scary and just, it just brings up all the. Feels for me that this is Bible prophecy literally happening right before our eyes.
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Yeah, exactly.
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The second one that you're going to be presenting is the jet tour through Revelation, which I think we all need a jet tour through Revelation. Just A reminder. So much happens in that book. But tell us a little bit about what this presentation is.
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B
Yeah, this is a pulling. Pulling a tiny piece out of our new study. We just released the book of Revelation. I'm teaching through it line by line in the original Greek. And I made it finally through chapter one. It took me 16 studies. Who's counting? I am. And it's a very exhaustive study. I felt if I'm going to go into this book, I'm. I'm not going to be in a hurry and I'm going to go into it and see what all God's bringing out. And, and really chapter one is the unveiling. That's what revelation means, the unveiling, the apocalypses. Of who? Of Jesus Christ. The real Jesus Christ. And that's really the whole theme of chapter one, that God, before he talks about his church, before he judges this world, he tells you who his son really is. Right? Because a lot of people, when they think of Jesus, they just kind of picture him. He's on the cross. Oh, yeah. He died on the cross, rose again from the grave. No, no, no, no. That's not the rest of the story. The rest of the story is right now he's at the right hand of the Father, right? And he's coming back. That's what revelation is all about. The unveiling of Jesus Christ, who he really is in his holiness, in his. His. His infinite power, in his majesty. With eyes of fire and hair and feet like brass. He's coming back to bring judgment. The first time he was beaten and bruised on our behalf as the sacrificial lamb. The second time he is bringing and dishing out the beatings himself. He's going to come and squelch all this baloney that we're talking about. The Ten Horn Kingdom, the Antichrist, the false prophet. And he's going to set up his rule, his reign, the millennial kingdom, for a thousand years. And then after that, this is the great White Throne Judgment. And then you got the new heavens, the new earth. No more mourning or dying or crying, crying or pain or the old order is gone. Jesus Christ is getting ready to come back. But here's the problem. People have the wrong Jesus in mind. And that's what this chapter one unveils. It's the unveiling the. Of the real risen Jesus Christ, who he is right now, not on the cross, who he is in his fullness. Right? You read in the Gospels the mount of transfiguration. In the Gospel of Matthew, the Disciples got a taste of it right when he appeared in transfigurable form. Oh, that's the tip of the tip of the iceberg. He is in his fullness. He's coming back. That's why when he comes back, this scripture says in revelation that every eye will see him. And oh, they mourn, they beat their breath because, yeah, this is God. This is Jesus Christ, the creator of the universe, man. And he's coming back to judge. All right? And that's the point. You need to receive him today as your savior. You don't want him as your judge. It's not going to go well, to put it mildly. But that's what this is about. And so I finished chapter one and out of that I created for people to get kind of. Because obviously it's going to take a while. If it took me 16 weeks to go through chapter one, I kind of wanted to put together. Let's go through the whole book real quick in one study and let's just get a big shot picture of the whole thing and then let's, let's hone in on who is this real Jesus Christ is getting ready to come back. And, and so that's what I'm sharing at the conference is a jet tour. And it's going to be a jet tour. We're going to be flying fast, man, and going through it. But what's really awesome is you'll get to see the whole seven year Tribulation depicted because I put a lot of work into it. Speaking of Hollywood, one thing that Hollywood has helped us to do is to help visualize these wrathful events that are coming to the planet. And I'm talking asteroids slamming into the earth. I'm talking pestilence, I'm talking global wars. I'm talking wild beasts chasing people down, going after and eating them and all that kind of stuff. I'm talking, you know, demonic warfare and all this kind of stuff. We're able, with the help of Hollywood, to bring that to life. What has been there in the scripture. And so that's what I do. So I pair it together with these Hollywood scenes that depict what is going on in the seven Year Tribulation. And it just, it's exactly like the scripture says, it's like birth pains. You think what you've seen in the first 15 minutes of this jet tour is crazy. And it is, oh, you ain't seen nothing yet. We're getting into the trumpets now. Oh, you ain't seen nothing yet. Wait till the final earthquake hits and the Whole earth is shaken and not even a mountain or island can be found. And all the cities on the whole planet have collapsed and all that's depicted. And then you get to the new heavens and the new earth and the reward for the Christian. So if it's, if it's, and I answer this question, I don't want to give too much of it away. Why does God have so much of the book of Revelation? Basically, chapter four forward is future events. Chapter four is the church going up into heaven. Chapter five is the throne room scene, that Jesus is the only one worthy to open the scroll. What's in the scrolls, the judgments to be unleashed. So chapter six through chapter 19, that's a big chunk of that book. And it's all about the seven Year Tribulation. And so the question is, why does God write so much about the seven Year Tribulation if in fact we, the church aren't going to be there? I think it's twofold. And again, I'll bring this out. Number one is for the Christian to develop a heart of compassion. Because when you see the absolute horrific events that are coming to this planet, the wrath of God being poured out, finally, that's been stored up for all the evil and rottenness that's been going on. You wouldn't want your worst enemy there, Karen. And so God tells you in all its gory detail, if you will, so that you and I can say, you know what, I need to get busy sharing the gospel. This is no joke. We say that all the time. Oh, I hope they're not left behind. No, when you see these events strung together and depicted with Hollywood's help, you go, oh, that person that I really didn't like, hey man, I got a heart of compassion for them because I don't want them there. So it really spurs us on as Christians to share the gospel even more. Right? So I believe that's why there's so much about that. The other reason is because guess what, a lot of non Christians are fascinated with Bible prophecy. They're just being led astray. And so people say, man, I don't want to talk about the book of Revelation, you know, because it might scare them. Well, Karen, if it scares them to Jesus Christ and they get saved, is that bad? See, we've been lied to in the church and we've been lied to with this. We've been told that fear, all fear is bad. I don't know. First of all, what Bible you reading? Bible says the beginning of wisdom is to fear the Lord, right? And there is a healthy fear. If, if I see somebody in the street and I see a truck coming towards them and they can't see it, am I going to say, well, I really would like to yell, but I don't want to scare them? Are you kidding me? I'm going to, hey, get out of the truck. You know, hey, I'm glad that God put it in me innately that I have a natural fear of putting my hand in a fire. All right? Okay. So not all fear is bad. If fear motivates you to safety, we call it flight or fight. Right? Then is that bad? Okay, so stop listening to this lie out there that if I share something scary, whether it be the seven year tribulation or hell for all eternity is a bad thing. And I need to stay away from that. Karen. I think sometimes that's the thing that people need to hear to get them over the finish line. Yeah, right. They need a healthy dose of fear. Because last time I checked, 7 years tribulation as Jesus is the worst time in the history of mankind. Oh, and by the way, even if you survive that and you still don't get saved, I. But you're going to hell forever. Hell is a scary place. That's why Jesus talked about it twice as much than he did about heaven. So. So we're doing people a disservice. So why is there so much information in the seven year Tribulation? Because Christians, it helps you develop a heart of compassion. We're not going to be there. Of course not. But guess what? You know, people that are in danger. So get out there and share the gospel number two. Guess what? If you're not saved. Yeah, this is freaky. Yeah, this is scary. It should make your heart pound. You should be concerned. But here's the good news. If it leads you to safety, to Jesus Christ and you get saved, Bingo. That's what you need to hear.
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Absolutely. And it's also an amazing defense for the pre trip rapture because I'm hearing more and more people writing in asking, hey, you know, so and so thinks that we are in the midst of the tribulation or for anyone that is mid trip, post trip, pan trip, whatever, you know, stance that they are taking and they think that we are going through some sort of the tribulation right now. It's just like, are you serious? Look around. Like we are still a very much civilized society and we're going to work and we're going to McDonald's drive throughs and Right. So if anyone is going to sit and watch this presentation. This is a beautiful picture of what to look for. And there will be, I don't think, any question in anyone's mind around the planet once the tribulation starts. We are in the midst of something that we have never ever, ever seen before as a society, and rightly so, because we are in the midst of receiving God's wrath. So I think this presentation is going to be so helpful for anyone that is doubting or questioning or, you know, knows someone that is, hey, show them this so that they can see the truth.
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Yeah, well, and I would encourage people too specifically, I'm not saying just for this message, but in general, but certainly this message. Make sure if you're, if you're watching online or this conference or you're coming, bring as many non saved people as you can. And because I'm telling you, this is one of the best ways that, and tools that God uses to get people saved.
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Absolutely.
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And because it shakes them up and it should shake you up. Yeah, right. I'll just say, well, God loves you, you need to get saved. Well, you know, they've heard that how many millions of times? It doesn't make a dent. But when ye, when they're looking at eternity square in the face and an absolute horrific nightmare, that might motivate them to say, you know what, I better start taking this serious. I need to get saved today. And I'll just say this. I, I think this is one thing that we need to do a better job as Christians, even here in America, even in our own camp with the prophecy community, we don't look at these conferences, unfortunately, as opportunities to bring unsaved people so they can get saved. And I'll just give a case in point. Again, we were in Australia early this year and we were on the other side, Perth, first time. Half of that con, half of the folks that showed up for that conference and it was packed, was Aboriginal Christians. And they were so in love with Jesus, so on fire for Jesus. It's still to this day was, I go back in a heartbeat. Those, those Christians were awesome. They were super serious, super in love with Jesus. And part of the reason why is because still to this day, in the Aboriginal culture, you leave the tribe, they will kill you. This is no joke. So that when they become a Christian, their life is on the line. So guess what? They're very serious. There's no, there's no easy believism, there's no easy Christianity. No, no, no. You got to walk away from everything and then you're ostracized even if they don't hunt you down and kill you. Right? So, so here's my point. They are in love with Jesus. They're serious. Now here's the point. And you know what they did? They brought as many unsaved people to that conference. And you know what happened, Karen? It was like a mini revival blew me away. You know me, when I, when I teach, I always pop in the gospel, right? That's just me as a shepherd. No matter, you know, because hey, just because you go to a prophecy, commerce that don't save you. Right? Right. But I kid you not. So I gave the gospel and, and Karen, it was like not, it was. There were so many people that got saved. It was absolutely amazing. And it just didn't stop. It just kept happening. And here's another one. And then here's another one. You know why? Because the aboriginal Christians brought a bunch of non Christians who had never heard any of this information, Bible prophecy. And that's what it took to get him saved. In fact, so much so I thought it was done and I lost count how many people got saved. And God gets the glory. I'm not boasting me. We were just there being his instruments and we get done. I'm trying to get off the stage for the next speaker to come up after I gave the gospel. And all of a sudden this teenage girl comes up to me and she goes, hey, I, I was intrigued by what she said and I, I'm, I'm kind of concerned. She said, I'm a Mormon and do I need to get saved? I said, yeah you do. Because Mormonism is not Christianity. It's a works based false gospel. So I shared the gospel again with her right there. She, she prayed and received Christ who saved right there as I'm just trying to get the stage. But here's my point. It was like a mini revival. And so if anything, my encouragement is, hey, Christian, don't just come to the prophecy conference. Don't just tune in online, use it as an evangelism event and watch what God will do. That might be the very thing that's going to take your loved one, your co worker, your neighbor to get across the finish line and get saved before it's too late.
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Absolutely. And it makes you wonder the reason why more churches, more pastors are not willing to teach on the book of Revelation and how effective it can be to bring someone to Christ. Just another reason why the church is not thriving and, and it's not supposed to in These last days. But another reason why churches and pastors are not willing to teach on this subject because it is so effective for bringing the gospel to light. Whole different way for these people because the time is short. They think, oh, I have until my deathbed to accept Jesus and you know, let's kind of be friendly with them for now and kind of walk the walk. But not really because life is okay and I really don't need to. This puts the fire under them and it's like, no, this urgent. This is important. You need to see the truth before it's too late. So I think that's beautiful and such a great message for everyone that is thinking about attending to, hey, see if there's a loved one that would be willing to join you because what an effective tool to bring them to Christ.
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B
Yeah, exactly. And you think about it, there are, there's the whole term of salvation. We need to get saved. We tell people, you need to get saved. Saved from what? A mediocre life, A poor self esteem, A low economic existence. Well, that's what you hear in the church today. That's not the gospel. What do you need to get saved from? The two things that are in the book of Revelation. You need to get saved from being left behind in the seven year tribulation. Seven years of hell on earth. And you know what also Revelation talks about repeatedly? Hell itself for all eternity. And they will go into the lake of fire forever and ever and ever. And the smoke of their torment does not rest day or night forever and ever. So the two things that people are saved from, hell on earth and hell forever is in the book of Revelation. And no wonder the enemy has so called pastors and churches keeping their mouth shut. And no wonder nobody's getting saved.
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Absolutely. Absolutely. There is no pearl from hell, unfortunately.
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Yeah.
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Any last words that you have? I feel like you've covered it all, but is there anything else you like to share with the audience in the last few minutes of our time together?
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Well, again, hey, the Rapture is imminent. It can happen anytime. You know, we've actually had some people say, why are you making a movie the Rapture? Listen, because it hasn't happened yet. You know, maybe we'll make it through, maybe we won't, I don't know. But here's the point. You're going to want him to find you faithful, right? I don't know how you want Jesus to find you. Because when the Rapture happens, guess what? You're going to be in the middle of doing something. I've said it before, I'll say it again. If that thought right there made you uncomfortable, that means you're off track. You're off track back to get a life church I'm currently teaching through the armor of God, Ephesians chapter 6. And. But Lord willing, for so life and still here, I'm going back into the book of Revelation where I picked up on chapter one, Chapter two, and chapter two deals with Ephesus. Losing your first love. Is. Is that how you want Jesus to find you? Just going through the motions, right? You just really don't love them like you used to and you're punching in your time clock. But that's the reality, Karen. Just encourage people. Listen, we. We live each day as if the Rapture could happen because it happens, but you still got to move forward, right? I call it the railroad track analogy, right? If you only have a robot tracks made of two tracks, and if one of the tracks goes away, you will derail 100 of the time. You'll never make it to your destination. And the same thing as a Christian, we're going to get unbalanced, we're going to derail spiritually. If you only have one of the two rails that you need, and the two rails are this number one, the left rail is I need to live every day as if the Rapture could happen today. You know why? Because it could happen today. But I can't just have that in my head. I also have to have the other rail, right? That it might still be a while, because only God knows. And so if he's given me this day, I need to live for him and share him and grow up in him and get the Gospel out right now. If all I did was that was just live for today and do what he's called me to do without the, without the knowledge of the Rapture, then down here could drag you down and get kind of depressing. And, and, and it's like, man, is this ever going to end, right? So the point is you got to have both rails understand that every day it could be today and get excited, long for his appearance, right? But guess what? It may not be today. So don't use this one as excuse to not live for the Lord. If you keep both rails at the same time every day, then guess what? You don't have to worry when Jesus comes and gets us, he'll find you faithful, right? And I don't know about you, but wouldn't it be the ultimate awesome thing that when the Rapture happens, it's you Personally, Christian leading a soul to Jesus Christ. You didn't know it, but that was the last gentile we were waiting to get saved. Right. And then you prayed and you said, in Jesus name, Amen. And then you went right out of here. I don't know about you, but that'd be a cool way to go. But here's the point. If you don't daily stay in love with Jesus Christ and keep your first love and stay on the track like you're supposed to, you're going to miss it. And I really think that a lot of Christians, they're missing it, right? They're unbalanced. They're either on one side of the track or they're on the other side of the track. And if anything, just encourage people. No, no, no. Keep both in mind. Finish strong and get excited about going home.
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Yeah. That constant daily challenge to stay on the path and yet keep looking up and do both simultaneously. It is something that is a challenge. But the Lord has called us to be able to do it. And anything that he asks us to do, he gives that ability to us to do through His. His power and his will. Yep. Thank you so much for your time, Billy. I am so thankful that you took the time out of your busy schedule to connect with us. And extra prayers for you for strength and wisdom and peace and rest in the midst of this upcoming month. And we are all very much looking forward to seeing you in Colorado.
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B
Awesome. Well, thank you. Looking forward to it ourself and being in prayer about that. And thank you for the prayers. Real quick, not to take more of your time. Thank you for your prayers because it's not detourt us in any way, but just to give you a little bit. We were like, wow, this must be pretty important because, you know, the enemy is really trying to get us off our game and it's not working. Praise God. But just yesterday my daughter and I on the way to the movie set got completely sideswiped and took out the van that we were in on the way to the movie, but we still made to the set and. And got him coffee on time. So anyway, so. And then after that I had to come up to the studio and do some recording and then get it. Get out of the hotel and I got a big giant flat tire and everything's closed. But God provided for that as well. So anyway, I'm just saying, I'm not. Not. We're not worried. I'm not saying, oh no, whatever. It's just. I'm just saying thank you for your prayers because God's having us do a great work. We're super stoked. We can't wait to share. But as you know when you're really living for the Lord and you're really making a difference for the Lord, you're going to pay a price. The enemy's going to try to get you off your game. But we trust in the Lord. Greater is he that is in us than he is in this world. But by all means if God puts it on your heart to pray for us please we would definitely appreciate that.
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Absolutely. I will sit and asking others. Thank you everyone for joining us for this prophecy update. I hope that it was informative and that you are able to think about bringing others to this conference if you're going to be doing this virtually or in person and again you can online going to prophecywatchers.com again thank you so much for your time and we'll see you here, there or near.