Prophecy Watchers – UFOs and the Bible: What Christians Need to Know

Podcast: Prophecy Watchers
Hosts: Gary Stearman, Mondo Gonzales
Guest: Larry Ollison
Date: February 14, 2026

Episode Overview

This episode tackles a topic often considered taboo or fringe in church circles: UFOs (now termed UAPs—Unidentified Aerial Phenomena) and their relation to the Bible and Christian belief. Dr. Larry Ollison joins Gary Stearman and Mondo Gonzales to discuss sightings, government disclosures, and both biblical and spiritual frameworks for understanding inexplicable phenomena in the heavens. The conversation bridges scripture, church worldview, and modern cultural trends around UFOs, aiming to equip Christians to respond thoughtfully and biblically—without fear.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. UFOs/UAPs: Taboo No Longer

• Breaking the Silence in Church
  • UFOs are rarely discussed in church due to fear of being labeled as "nutters" or conspiracy theorists.
  • "[Church people] aren't stupid...if you've received Jesus as your Lord and Savior, you're one of the most intelligent people out there..." (00:30)
• Science and the Bible
  • True science and the Bible do not conflict; genuine scientific discoveries ultimately affirm biblical truths.
  • Humorous reference to outdated medical "science" (e.g., cigarette ads for pregnant women) to illustrate how consensus changes. (02:20)
• Terminology Shift
  • UFOs now referred to as UAPs—Unidentified Aerial Phenomena—a rebranding by government and military. (04:09)

2. Modern Sightings & Official Disclosures

• Government Reports on UAPs
  • Cites recent military reports (June 21, 202X) disclosing encounters with objects that can move from stationary to 10,000 mph instantly—well beyond human capability. (06:44)
  • "There is the story of a military pilot...when he got down close to it, in an instant, it was gone." (08:12)
• Not a Question of Existence, but of Meaning
  • There is now enough evidence for these phenomena. The key question is: what are they and what do they mean biblically?

3. Cultural Conditioning and Media Framing

• Cinematic Portrayals
  • Media (e.g., Yoda from Star Wars, Avatar) conditions the public to view "aliens" as wise or benevolent, normalizing their presence. (11:10)
  • "We are in a time...where we are gradually being shown that aliens are benevolent, that they're...okay." (12:05)
• Abduction Phenomena
  • Discussion of so-called "Grays"—beings in many abduction accounts, often involving medical experiments. All accounts eerily similar. (15:00)

4. Scriptural Perspectives on Supernatural Beings

• Angelic, Spiritual, and Demonic Entities
  • Introduction of scriptural background:
    • Ephesians 6:11-12: "We do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but... against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places." (19:35)
    • Not all supernatural or spiritual beings are from God. Some are angelic (good); others are demonic (evil).
    • 2 Corinthians 11:14: "Even Satan tries to make himself look like an angel of light." (22:01)
• Need for Spiritual Discernment
  • 1 Corinthians 12:10—gift of discernment is essential since not all spirits "seem" evil.
  • Quote: "Why would you need to discern spirits if all the spirits that are talking to you are good?" (23:35)
  • Deception is a core tactic: people who are deceived believe they are right.

5. Personal Testimonies and Spiritual Warfare

• Personal Encounter Story
  • Dr. Ollison shares a story of a young man who described alien abduction by the Grays, believing them to be loving:
    • "He said they were some of the most loving creatures out there. And he said it really didn't hurt a lot when they injected those needles into me..." (26:40)
    • Verdict: When something contradicts scripture—such as abductions or harm—it is not from God.
    • Quote: "There's nothing in the word of God that talks about how angels are going to abduct you and put needles into you." (27:47)

6. Biblical Cosmology & The Principalities of the Air

• Hierarchy of Created Beings
  • Colossians 1:15–17—all things (visible, invisible, thrones, dominions, principalities, powers) created through and for Jesus. (29:16)
  • Post-fall: a third of the heavenly host rebelled; now considered the "principalities and powers of the air" (Ephesians, Colossians).
  • Ancient Hebrew view: "the air" means Earth's atmosphere ("heaven number one").

7. A Personal Dream: Peace About the Unknown

• Dr. Ollison’s Vision
  • Shares a dream where God promises to answer deep, cosmic questions—pyramids, fossils, nebulae, UFOs. (36:25)
  • Upon waking, he can't recall the details, but is left with profound peace: "the answers are so simple...God's got all this in the palm of his hand." (40:05)
  • Quote: "The gospel is simple. Takes a preacher to complicate it." (40:45)

8. Biblical Descriptions of Supernatural Craft

• Ezekiel 1 – The Wheels Within Wheels
  • Vivid reading of Ezekiel’s vision: whirlwind, fire, four living creatures, interconnected wheels ("merkavah"—same as modern Israeli tank name), mechanical workings, "wheel within a wheel." (42:00)
  • Noted that Ezekiel used language and metaphors familiar to his time—what we might now perceive as technologically advanced craft/mechanisms (i.e., gyroscopes).
    • "[Ezekiel] described it in the best way he could describe it, knowing what he knows for that day." (48:41)
• Zechariah 5 – Flying Scroll
  • Reference to another biblical “craft,” described as a huge flying scroll, size given in cubits, tubular/circular shape. (54:33)
• Elijah’s Whirlwind and Chariots of Fire
  • Account of Elijah’s rapture by "chariots of fire" (2 Kings 2), again using familiar Old Testament imagery to describe otherworldly vehicles. (57:01)
• Heavenly Patterns and Earthly Imitations
  • Suggests that earthly constructs are patterned after “real things” in heaven; what we see as chariots, altars, or even craft, are reduced imitations of heavenly realities. (01:05:05)
  • Quote: "The chariots that they were using on earth were just imitations of the magnificent chariots that are in heaven..." (01:06:10)

9. Counterfeits and Spiritual Authority

• The Enemy’s Mimicry
  • Satan and demons mimic God’s works—the gifts of the Spirit have counterfeit versions (e.g., seances, Ouija boards).
  • Christians are exhorted to study the "real thing" (the Bible) so they can spot counterfeits, just as bank tellers study real bills. (01:08:40)
• Scriptural Assurance
  • 1 Corinthians 14:33—God is not the author of confusion, but of peace.
  • Luke 10:17—Jesus endowed believers with authority over "all the power of the enemy":
    • "Do not be afraid of a UFO...If a little gray appears to you...say, 'I rebuke you in the name of Jesus.'" (01:12:56)
  • 2 Timothy 1:7—Believers have not been given a spirit of fear, but of power, love, and sound mind. (01:16:55)

10. Practical Guidance for Christians

• How to Respond
  • Test the spirits: if a "being" does not confess Jesus Christ as Lord, command it to leave in Jesus' name. (01:18:32)
  • Take authority; affirm your identity—"I am anointed. I have authority over all the power of the enemy. And no UFO or UAP will ever scare me..." (01:19:42)
• On Fear and The End Times
  • The proliferation of UFO/UAP narratives may help shape global interpretation of the Rapture, allowing secular authorities to explain away the sudden disappearance of millions by invoking mass alien abduction. (01:22:35)
  • Cautions about increasing scapegoating of Christians in the media (paralleling Nazi propaganda against Jews), warning against belief manipulation through repetition. (01:31:08)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Bible and Science:
  • "True science and true Bible don’t conflict. In fact, every time that science comes up with a new discovery, it complements the Bible if the discovery is true." (01:35)
• On discernment:
  • "You must have something different working inside of you if you ever communicate with the Spirit...Why would you need to discern spirits if all the spirits that are talking to you are good?...That's what deception is." (23:35)
• On Ezekiel’s Vision:
  • "Why would spirits from heaven...need anything mechanical?...Who's not to say that there's technology in heaven?" (44:18)
• On authority:
  • "You have not been given a spirit of fear. And you, as a born again believer, you have authority over all...the power of the enemy. And nothing shall by any means harm you." (01:19:42)
• On the UFO phenomenon and the end times:
  • "I believe...there is a conditioning of the populace so that when the rapture takes place and in an instant, we're all gone, that they can write it off as a mass abduction." (01:22:50)

Important Timestamps

• 00:00–05:00 – Introduction; UFOs/UAPs as a church taboo, science and Bible compatibility
• 06:44 – Reported military encounters with UAPs
• 12:00 – Pop culture (Star Wars, Avatar) framing of aliens
• 19:35 – Key Scriptures: Ephesians 6, spiritual warfare
• 26:40 – Personal abduction testimony; discernment in the supernatural
• 36:25 – Dr. Ollison’s dream/vision: God’s peace about mysteries
• 42:00–54:33 – Detailed reading and analysis of Ezekiel 1 (wheels within wheels, chariots)
• 54:33 – Zechariah’s Flying Scroll
• 57:01 – Elijah’s “chariots of fire”
• 01:05:05 – Earthly vs. heavenly patterns; counterfeit/real
• 01:12:56 – Authority of believers; practical spiritual warfare
• 01:16:55 – No spirit of fear; affirming identity in Christ
• 01:22:35–01:31:08 – Rapture theory, conditioning, media scapegoating, historical parallels to Nazi Germany

Conclusion

Main Takeaway:
UFO/UAP phenomena are real, as affirmed by multiple eyewitnesses and official reports, but understanding their nature requires spiritual discernment and biblical context. Christians should respond from a position of authority and peace (not fear), recognizing that spiritual deception is prevalent and that the Bible provides the true pattern for all realities—natural and supernatural.

Final Encouragement:
"You have not been given a spirit of fear...Take authority. You are an anointed one." (01:19:42)

This episode’s content offers biblical perspectives, practical advice for responding to unexplained phenomena, and serves as a call to continue digging into scripture for understanding and assurance.