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Hello, I'm Gary Stearman and this is Prophecy Watchers. Very special guest today by the name of Josh Peck. And he has a lot of ideas, he does a lot of writing. And, Josh, welcome to Prophecy Watchers.
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Well, thanks for having me back. It's good to be talking with you again.
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Well, we have a very interesting conversation today, and I'm going to read the title to our audience right now, if you don't mind. It's called the Rapture and the Dead Sea Scrolls. Now, when I first heard that title, I thought, well, those are two entities. What do they have to do with each other? And only Josh could find them. And. And he did.
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Yeah. It's kind of funny. Well, for those who aren't familiar, the actual Old Testament is included in the Dead Sea Scrolls. So it's a big library from around the time of Christ, probably compiled a couple hundred years before the time of Christ. And they were held, they were kept, written by the Essenes, which were the group of Jewish believers that maintained that they held onto the original interpretation of the Old Testament. So they didn't fall into oral Torah like the Pharisees did. They didn't fall into just not believing in anything the way the Sadducees did. So they left us behind, the Dead Sea Scrolls. And what's really interesting about that is they had a calendar system. We've talked about it on this program before, and I'm sure we can get into it again. But they had a calendar system that the Bible actually uses. And in this calendar system, it's not only historical, but it's prophetic. According to that calendar system, just a couple of weeks ago, we actually entered into the final Jubilee, So the final 50 years of what they call the Age of Grace. So that leads us to wonder, well, if we have 50 years left of the Age of Grace, when is the Rapture going to be? So that's how the Rapture connects with the Dead Sea Scrolls. There's other areas, too, such as when we read through Daniel 12, we read about how some people will be raised, and some to everlasting life, some to contempt. And it talks about the ones that are raised to life as being shining. We actually see that phrase all throughout the Dead Sea Scrolls. It talks about these shining ones. And the more that you look into it, the more these seem to be Raptured believers. So that's really, really interesting to find that in the dead sea scrolls, two to 300 years before the.
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When I think of the Rapture, I think of an absolutely culminating event in other words, before the Rapture, things were this way. After the Rapture, they're an entirely different way. And that was a huge change in a very short period of time. So I think people are looking for the Rapture. Today. We talk to many, many people who tell us privately, I think I know when the the Rapture is going to be because I've been doing a lot of studying and I find that very encouraging. People are studying Scripture, and no matter what the reason, it's always good to study Scripture. But now when you talk about the Rapture, you're talking about a culminating event.
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Absolutely.
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Before something is happening here and after something else is happening. And so let's take it from there.
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Well, sure. That's why Jesus attributes the time as being as the days of Noah, where people are marrying and drinking, life is going on as normal, but then something happens where everything changes. In the days of Noah, it was the flood. In our time, it'll be the Rapture. And I do want to make one point clear. The Dead Sea Scrolls don't tell us the exact date of the Rapture.
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I'm glad you said that.
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So, unfortunately, we can't set an exact date on it, but we can look at the season that we're in. And I think that that's what's really important. Even Jesus criticized the Pharisees for not knowing the season that they were. But so we can know the season that we're in. And again, according to the Dead Sea scroll calendar, we're in that final 50 years. That doesn't necessarily mean that we have to wait 50 years for the Rapture to happen or for Jesus to come back or anything like that. And that's what's so exciting about the Dead Sea Scrolls, because it gives us this calendar and this understanding of ages that while it's not explicitly explained in the Bible, when you apply it to the Bible, it fits perfectly.
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And, you know, I'm thinking here, and everybody talks about, quote, a date for the Rapture. There may not be a date for the Rapture as we think of it, but perhaps conditions coming to a particular climax might be the trigger.
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Yeah, that's really interesting. It could be. And maybe that's part of why it's ambiguous. I think another reason why it's left ambiguous, too is if we knew the exact date, I think that would radically alter how we live our Christian lives. If we knew it wasn't going to BE for another 10, 20 years, I think that might radically change how many of us live our Christian lives. Whereas if we know that he could come back at any moment. I don't know about you, but I'm more motivated to want to share the Gospel and get as many people saved as possible because we don't know when his return is going to.
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We do not know. However, I seldom run into a Christian who believes that it's going to be a long, long time. Yeah, we're all excited. The situation in the world looks very recognizable in terms of Bible prophecy. And my Bible here just happens to be open to First Thessalonians, verse 16, which says, for the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout. This is a climactic, global, world shattering event. And the reason I'm making this point is. Let's go back to your studies. The Rapture and the Dead Sea Scrolls. Do they speak of a climactic, a high change event?
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Yeah, well, at the end of every age there's a big high change event. So we're definitely going to see one at the end of our age. So during the first age, which was the age of Creation, the main thing that happened at the end of that age would have been the whole Tower of Babel incident. And then of course before that we had the flood and all that as well. The clearest one that we have access to historically is the end of the Age of Torah. We just have a lot more documentation about what occurred there. And that was definitely a time of a lot of big change. When Jesus came on the scene and when he died and resurrected. And I mean, the whole world was never the same after that. And so it seems that at the end of each of these ages, you know, it's interesting, even at the end of the Millennium Age, which they refer to as a Thousand Year Sabbath, at the end of the Millennium Age, there's a big change after that too, because Satan is released. He gets to stir up the nations again and try to bring the world against Jerusalem again. Of course he doesn't get anywhere with that except burned up. But still, during that thousand years we've been living under the reign of Christ and things have gone a certain way. Well, there's a big shakeup at the end of that age too. So of course at the end of our age we're going to see a big shakeup. And I think that's exactly the Rapture.
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Now people are saying, well, aren't we seeing the big shakeup right now?
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It's starting.
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And I would agree with you on that, that things seem to be coming together more and more rapidly. Yeah, which the Bible talks about and it begins, it speaks about how loaded with events that time period is going to be.
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Yeah.
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And I think we're living, we've been, we've seen World War I, World War II, we've studied the Korean War, major and minor wars. We're kind of war weary, but we've been free of war of, of much importance for the last 50 years.
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Yeah, I think one of the biggest signposts that we look to is 1948, founding of Israel. I think that was when things really started, the real birth pangs started. And I think we're winding towards the end of that. I can't say exactly when the whole age system of the calendar, it only tells us when ages begin and end, but it doesn't tell us exactly when events within those ages will start. So while we don't know the exact day of the Rapture, we can know the season. And things seem to be ramping up exponentially, just like the travail of a woman. So I think we're getting close.
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Now let's go back to this. The Dead Sea Scrolls give us an approximate date for these scrolls.
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Scholars usually put the dating of the scrolls between 2 and 300 years before the time of Christ. That's the scrolls that we have. We don't know if those were copied from even older scrolls because we have things like the Book of Enoch that could have been. And most scholars will say that that was written two to three hundred years before Christ and it could have been. But there's others that say, well, maybe that was a copy of an older scroll that they had that was just getting degradated and so they make copies. And maybe that did come from the time of Enoch. And it's really interesting when you read through Enoch and in the dvd, I do get into Enoch quite heavily, but it seems to say in the very beginning that the Book of Enoch is for the people that will be living at the end. And Enoch was mainly discovered, I mean, people knew about it before, but it was mainly discovered with the Dead Sea scrolls in the 1940s. Then they got translated and made more public in the 90s. But it wasn't really until very recently that they've really been interpreted. And especially the calendar system, I think that was completed somewhere around 2018, 2019. So this is all very, very recent things. And so when Enoch says that this is for the time of those that are going to be living when these things happen, well, that makes perfect sense with our day to day.
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Yeah, it does indeed. And things are accelerating and the tenor of the Rapture of the Dead Sea Scrolls is that essentially the subject brings the idea of culmination speeding up climactic events and so forth and so on. At least that's what we all think. How do these scrolls treat the subject?
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Yeah, and it's really interesting because we do know more about the Rapture now than they did back then. But they had hints of it again. Like in Daniel 12, it talks about the shining ones, but they didn't really know exactly what that meant. But at the time, it's really funny, at the time of the Pharisees, Sadducees and Essenes, when the Essenes were putting these together and writing their commentaries of the Old Testament, they included some prophecies. Now, the Pharisees would have said that prophecy had died off. God wasn't giving prophecies to anyone anymore. But really it was. God wasn't giving the Pharisees prophecies anymore. I wonder why. I wonder. Yeah, but when you look through the Dead Sea Scrolls, you realize the Essenes, the Zadok priesthood that was in Qumran, they were getting prophecies. And when we look through those, they match up with the Bible perfectly. They're coming to fruition. And so it all connects.
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Josh Peck, he's made a study of the Dead Sea Scrolls and the Rapture. Very interesting subject. By the way, you occasionally contribute to our magazine called the Prophecy Watchers. Here's how you can get your copy of it.
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And we're back with Josh Peck. And where should we go from here? This book and DVD set, the things that you've written, the things that you've put on a dvd. Let me put it this way. There's a lot of information, right?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, there really is. And I'm glad that you mentioned books as well, because this, while we're talking about the DVD specifically today, this is the brand new, the brand new teaching, but it actually comes from the last couple chapters, specifically the last chapter of my two book set, Forgotten Prophecies of the Dead Sea Scrolls, which are of course available@procywatchers.com so that, and also Ken Johnson and I put together an actual calendar of the Dead Sea scroll calendar. He, he put it all together. All I did was put it into print form, but that's also available for those who want it. So we live in a time where there's just so much information now available on this topic. And I don't think that's by accident. I think that God wanted these things to be out at this time because this is the time where these things are going to be extremely important, not only for us today, who will make it in the Rapture whenever that happens, but also to those after who might get left behind and it might take the Rapture for them to realize, oh my gosh, I was wrong. But that's why we need to be out there. We need to know what we're talking about and we need to bring these people to the Lord before it's too late.
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Now a climactic era is just ahead, according to the Bible. And Christians who study prophecy look ahead and they say, wow, I don't want to be there when these things are happening. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. And the people who wrote the Dead Sea Scrolls did they have the same idea that I. Climactic event was in the offing. Yeah, we don't want to be there, but here's what's going to happen. We just have to tell you.
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Yeah, absolutely. They fled Israel because of that, because they knew that the destruction of the temple was coming. That was the end of their age. So that's where most of their focus was. But they also studied and researched and had prophecies about the end of our age. So they knew that we would be looking to some other similar, really climactic time that would be both good for believers but destructive for the rest of the world. So they actually saw that at the end of each age and they had quite a bit to say about it, which is fascinating to us today.
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Well, it adds, I think, some impetus to our own personal studies because, let's face it, who wants to study the Dead Sea Scrolls? That's a long, long time ago. I don't have anything to do with that. I read the Bible and that's sufficient for me. But this has enabled you to look at Scripture in a broad way that includes things that we don't ordinarily talk about.
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That's a good way to put it. Yeah. Because the Dead Sea Scrolls don't change any of the teachings in the Bible, but they add a lot of context that we didn't originally have before. You can find pieces of the calendar when you look through the Bible, but you can't really put the calendar together just from the Bible. But when you have access to the Dead Sea Scrolls, you can. And people might wonder, well, then why. Why aren't the Dead Sea Scrolls in the Bible? Well, if they were, the Bible would be probably five to six times as big as it is now. It's already hard enough to get people to read through this, let alone if it was six times as big, they would think, well, there's no way.
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But you don't place the Dead Sea Scrolls on the same level as Scripture.
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No. Well, not the Dead Sea Scrolls that aren't biblical. So again, all of the Old Testament books are in the Dead Sea Scrolls except for the Book of Esther. For some reason, we don't know exactly why. It could have just been that the copies they had were degraded and we couldn't find any. But every other book of the Old Testament is found in the Dead Sea Scrolls. So they had that. We know those are inspired, but all the rest, I don't put it. I don't count it necessarily as inspired. I don't put it at. I Don't put it at the same level as the Bible. I, I count it as history. It's sort of like this. When we read through something like Genesis 6, you know, we get four verses roughly about, about what happened with the, the fallen angels mating with humans and the giants came. And then after that the flood came. And we might, we, we, we might be like, well, I want more of the story. You know, how do we fill in these, these gaps? And we have a couple different ways we could go about that. We could either just ignore the subject totally and say, well, I don't care about the gaps. I only care about what the Bible tells me, and that's perfectly fine, or we can try to fill in the gaps ourselves. But we're 2,000 years and half a world removed away from where these texts originally talked about this stuff, so that's probably not the wisest thing. Or we can go back to the earliest sources that we have to see how they interpreted it. And that's what we're doing with the Dead Sea Scrolls. And the Dead Sea Scrolls have a lot more to say about Genesis 6, specifically in the books of Enoch, Jubilees, and a few others. They have a lot more information that does fill in those gaps. And again, I haven't found anything in the Dead Sea Scrolls that actually conflicts with the Bible, if I ever do. You would take the Bible first and you would throw away that Dead Sea Scroll. But I haven't found it. I don't think it exists. But yeah, we lift the Bible above all else.
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We have a little urging in parts of the Bible. Like, as it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the coming of man, so forth. So that sort of makes me say, well, but maybe I need to go back and study more from that era.
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Yeah. And maybe that's why God ordained that these things would be available to us now, because these texts were largely unknown. Not to the broader world. They were largely unknown up until right around when Israel became a nation again. Which is really interesting that those happened at the same time.
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Kind of a coincidence.
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Yeah, one of those coincidences. I'm not a coincidence theorist.
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Neither am I. And God provides.
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Yeah, absolutely. And that's why I tell people, too, like studying the Dead Sea Scrolls, it's not going to make you a better or worse Christian. You know, you could still be a Christian without them, and there might be people that just aren't interested in it, and that's perfectly fine. But, but for those that are, I would say they're available to you. And they do complement the Bible quite well. And you do get a lot more context that we normally wouldn't get from just the Bible alone. So again, we get all of our main teaching, all of our teaching about anything spiritual, how to get saved. We get all of that from the Bible. If we want some extra contextual information, like why this on this date or why this at this place, anything like that, we can go to the Dead Sea Scrolls and help fill in those
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gaps in the next couple of minutes. What's the most exciting thing you have run into putting all this together?
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Hmm, that's a good question. Cause there's so many of them. The DVD split up into eight different parts because I found so many things that I was interested in. I think mainly just the time that we're living in, that we are now since March 18th of this year. That was when we entered into the final 50 years of the Age of Grace. And that's actually what the Essenes in the Dead Sea Scrolls called our time today. To them, an age was 2000 years. But that final jubilee was always the most important because that's when everything would change. We saw that during the last jubilee of the Torah Age, which again would have been between 26 and 76 AD. Jesus came very early in that jubilee. So what makes me excited is the thought that maybe he'll come early in our Jubilee too. Which means maybe the Rapture is only a couple days away, a couple years away, you know, who knows? But hopefully not long.
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I think God knows, but I'm being facetious.
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Amen.
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Wouldn't it be interesting if there were no date for the Rapture? In other words, only God knows when it's going to happen. Therefore, you can't nail the date to the Rapture. And we live in an era when people are so excited about the end times that they're trying to date the Rapture. And I say more power to them. Because you're going to be studying the Bible when you do that.
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Yeah, as long as somebody is studying the Bible, that's really good. But. But yeah, again, to reiterate, the Dead Sea Scrolls do not give us a date. Neither does the Bible. And I think that's wise. It's for good design, because it would affect our. I believe it would affect our Christian walk if we knew God knows us better than we know ourselves.
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Josh Peck, the DVD the Rapture and the Dead Sea Scrolls. Here's how you can get your copy.
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Going back in time, almost 2000 years, Jesus and his disciples had A conversation on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem as we read in the 24th chapter of Matthew, his disciples had questions that we've probably all asked ourselves at one time or another. What shall be the sign of your coming at the end of the age? Every generation since then has looked for the return of Jesus, who promised us in the Book of John that he would go and prepare a place for us that where he is we can be also. That is the eternal hope of every Christian. Our guest today, Dead Sea Scrolls researcher Josh Peck, has taken us in a new direction through the writing of the Essenes, who opposed the teachings of the corrupt Pharisees and Sadducees. These Essenes were not ignorant when it came to the biblical writings. In fact, they knew when the Jewish Messiah was scheduled to arrive to take on the sins of the world. The Essenes had their own unique calendar. Thanks to the efforts of Ken Johnson and Josh, we've duplicated this calendar and we've made it available in the Prophecy Watchers Bookstore for your gift of $25 or more with shipping included in the USA. Josh has produced two amazing books on the Dead Sea Scrolls and how they relate to the prophecies of the Bible. Those two books are available for your gift of $50 or more and as always, shipping is included with your USA order. John's research into the Scrolls and the Essene calendar led him to dig deeper into the writings concern concerning the Rapture of the Church. He's produced an eight part DVD on the subject, the Rapture and the Dead Sea Scrolls. Get your personal copy for your gift of $25 or more and support his important research. Josh's two Dead Sea scroll books and his DVD on the rapture are available for your gift of $75 or more in the Dead Sea Scroll Rapture package and it comes with a special free free bonus your own personal copy of the Essenes Dead Sea Scroll Calendar, a savings of $25. Just call the toll free number you see on the screen or visit us online at ProphecyWatchers TV. For our international friends. Please note that additional shipping fees do apply and all prices listed are in US Dollars. Our mission at Prophecy Watchers is clear. We want to share the good news of Jesus and the hope we have to live with him forever in heaven. We we want to be an encouragement to you looking for Jesus every day as he encouraged us to do. We want each of you to have the assurance that you'll spend eternity with him and keep people from the terrible time the Bible calls the Tribulation thanks for watching today and thanks for your faithful support of Prophecy Watchers.
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Well, we're back with Josh Peck. And this has been a very interesting little trip for me because I always enjoy people who look in the Bible and associated tasks associated to commentaries, let's put it that way. I enjoy watching what they do and I enjoy seeing what they're going to discover next. And thanks for what you do.
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Yeah, absolutely. I mean, all glory to God and it's a pleasure to serve the Lord. And I just pray that this can bring people some excitement about the times that we're living in. Because when we watch the news, it's all bad news. Everything is the worst that it could ever possibly be. But we as Christians, sometimes it's easy to get caught up in that. But forget that we do have this blessed hope and that it is imminent. So even though we don't know when it could happen, just the fact that it could happen at any time should be truly exciting and inspirational for all of us.
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Now, we live in a very interesting time war in the Middle East, a lot of upheaval in the world, wars
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and wars of wars.
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Yes. I think a great transition in human history is happening even as we speak. And so when we look at the Bible, we study prophecy, we look at commentaries and the Dead Sea Scrolls or whatever you happen to be looking into. I think we have a lot of motivation these days that we might not have had before a year, two, three, four ago when things looked more stable. But now we're saying, wait a minute, something could happen. I better find out what the Bible says.
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And it seems like that is happening with a lot of people. There was a recent study, in fact, that showed that even among non believers that just one third of Americans now believe that we're living in the end times. I mean, we can't turn on the news a single day without learning about a new war or some new skirmish within the Middle east or any of these things that have to do with prophecy, with Bible prophecy or new types of weapons. Yes. Yeah.
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The weaponry coming around right now AI generated is quite scary.
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Yeah, yeah, it really is. And again, I think it just all goes down to prophetically, the times that we're living in. That's why I wanted to get this DVD out now, the time for it. And I think people are really going to learn a lot from it.
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And isn't it curious that all of these clashes that we're seeing now are happening in the Middle East?
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Yep, yep.
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Where else?
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Exactly?
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It's an exciting time to be alive.
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Yeah, it is. And that's why we're told that's the area to look over to Israel.
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Josh Peck, he looks where other people do not. He comes up with some very interesting studies. You need to check him out. And by the way, just tell your friends about prophecy watchers. Spread the good news. We're studying the word of God with the idea that he is urging us on towards something that's about to happen. It's a very exciting time to be A lot. Thanks, Josh.
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Yeah, thank you.
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I'm Gary Stearman, and you keep watching. We are party.
Prophecy Watchers | April 28, 2026
Host: Gary Stearman, with Mondo Gonzales
Guest: Josh Peck
In this compelling episode, Gary Stearman and guest Josh Peck dig deep into the relationship between the Dead Sea Scrolls and the prophetic event known as the Rapture. Peck shares how ancient documents from the Essenes, discovered at Qumran, provide fresh insights and context to biblical prophecy—especially concerning the “end of the age.” The conversation navigates through history, theology, timelines, and practical implications for Christians living in turbulent times.
The episode balances excitement, scholarly curiosity, and sobering realism about global turmoil, using plain yet engaging language. Peck is enthusiastic about the providential “unveiling” of information from the Dead Sea Scrolls—valuable not to create new doctrine, but to help believers discern the season, anticipate coming events, and remain steadfast in hope.
The intersection of ancient texts and present events, especially through the lens of prophecy, offers listeners a perspective of urgency and encouragement. The main message: while neither Scripture nor the Dead Sea Scrolls can pinpoint the Rapture’s date, they provide signs and seasons, and reinforce that history is moving toward a climactic divine intervention—one for which believers must be spiritually prepared.
Memorable Closing:
“It is imminent... even though we don't know when it could happen, just the fact that it could happen at any time should be truly exciting and inspirational for all of us.”
—Josh Peck [25:28]
For further study: Peck’s books and the Dead Sea Scroll Calendar are referenced for those wishing to go deeper.