GIRL CHAT: No Filter w/ Fi: GLP-1s, Motherhood & the Hard Conversations

Summary

Podcast Summary: Pursuit of Wellness

Episode: GIRL CHAT: No Filter w/ Fi – GLP-1s, Motherhood & the Hard Conversations

Date: May 25, 2026
Host: Mari Llewellyn
Guest: Fi

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Episode Overview

This candid "Girl Chat" episode welcomes back Fi, longtime friend and former colleague of host Mari Llewellyn, to dive deep into topics that are currently trending—and personal—including GLP-1 medications (like Ozempic), motherhood, childhood reflections, friendship evolution, and the emotional complexities that come with personal growth. It's an open, honest, and often humorous catch-up between two women at pivotal stages of their lives.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Fi’s Ozempic (GLP-1) Journey: The Realities

• Fi’s Experience:

  • On GLP-1 medication (Ozempic) for 1.5 years for weight management.
  • Went off the medication and noticed the return of “food noise”—constant intrusive thoughts about food.
  • Rapid weight regain despite maintaining exercise and healthy eating routines.
  • Experienced significant side effects first time—muscle loss and hair loss (wore clip-in extensions as a result).

• Key Insight:

  • GLP-1s like Ozempic are not a quick fix; for some, it’s a long-term tool rather than a temporary solution.
  • The biology behind weight regain post-medication suggests factors beyond simple willpower or discipline.

• Quote:

  “I basically gained back what I had lost over, like, a year and a half in two and a half months.” —Fi (10:14)

• Resources:

  • Fi found support and new perspective from Oprah’s book, Enough: Your Health, Your Weight, and What It Is Like To Be Free (13:00–14:29)
  • Book reframes obesity as a treatable disease, not a personal failure; helped reduce shame.

• Memorable Moment:

  "It took a weight off my shoulders ... it's not in my control." —Fi (15:26)

Timestamps:

• [09:33] How Fi went off Ozempic, rapid weight regain
• [10:54] Gut health testing and self-advocacy
• [13:27] Oprah's book & mental/emotional impact
• [15:37] Struggles with food noise and online fitness culture

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2. Motherhood—Transformation, Empathy & Inner Child

• Mari shares how becoming a mother has changed her, reflecting on her own childhood and developing a new empathy for her parents, but also new anger over childhood wounds (24:00–29:15).

• The duality of motherhood includes both gratitude and emotional turmoil—especially when reflecting on how childhood trauma shapes parenting goals.

• Mari consciously aims to provide a "perfect" life for her son, Kai, while acknowledging the impossibility and the need for balance.

• Quote:

  “When you have a child, you look back and you’re like, dude... All I care about now is how he thinks of me, how he feels. It’s such a different... Like my eyes are just—yeah” —Mari (24:08)

• Memorable Moment:
  The emotional rollercoaster of motherhood and “breaking the cycle”—"Anyone who spends time with Kai should deserve to... If anyone's coming around him with anything negative, I'll punch—get back up!" —Mari (26:17)

Timestamps:

• [24:03] Mari on shifting priorities after motherhood
• [25:20] Mari: Revisiting her own upbringing through the lens of parenting Kai
• [26:18] Mama bear instincts and boundaries
• [27:03] Fi on childhood memories and emotional safety

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3. Friendship Evolution: Boundaries, Growth & Codependency

• Mari and Fi reflect on their long friendship, from intense daily collaboration at Bloom to redefining their connection after parting ways professionally.

• Acknowledgement of past codependency, the need for space, and gratitude for honesty in navigating a "breakup" that freed both to pursue new growth.

• Now, their friendship is more solid and supportive, even as their life stages diverge (Mari as a mom, Fi focusing on career and relationship).

• Quote:

  “We spent every waking minute together, basically for, like, four years … we had kind of developed, like, a codependency with each other.” —Fi (39:32)

• Memorable Moment:
  Mari’s appreciation for Fi’s unwavering support as “Auntie Fee” and how true friendship means showing up in mundane, everyday moments (46:03–47:20).

Timestamps:

• [38:47] Fi honestly assesses their evolving friendship
• [39:44] Codependency and the decision to part ways professionally
• [42:04] Finding self-confidence and renewed friendship

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4. Life Updates: Careers, Relationships, and Real Estate

• Fi is thriving as a real estate agent in Austin, finding fulfillment in helping others.
• Open conversation about her relationship with her boyfriend (long distance, supportive, “gentleman”).
• Notable for listeners: Healthy relationships don’t require “settling” or chasing. "If they're saying they don't have time, move on." —Fi (37:58)

Timestamps:

• [07:23] Fi’s real estate journey starts
• [32:07] Relationship status and healthy dynamics
• [33:06] Role models of partnership vs. previous relationship challenges

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5. Navigating Online Mom & Wellness Culture

• The challenges of parenting in the social media age—judgment from strangers, the pressure for perfection, and misinformation.
• Both discuss the impossibility of getting everything “right”: "You’re bad if you have help, you’re bad if you don’t have help..." —Mari (30:55)
• Emphasis on grace and focusing on your own child, not internet criticism.

Timestamps:

• [30:14] Mom shame & unsolicited advice online
• [31:43] The audacity of commenters who don’t have kids

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6. Everyday Joy, Activities & Baby/Kid Life

• Reflection on everyday life with children, routines, the importance of activities outside the house for mental health (53:06).
• Plans for baby classes and the excitement over watching milestones like crawling and sports.

Timestamps:

• [50:55] Signing Kai up for baby gymnastics
• [53:06] "Activities save sanity" in early parenthood

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Fi (on GLP-1): “If you want to lose weight, just put down the fork ... like, you’re just eating too much... It’s not that simple.” (15:37)
• Mari (on motherhood): “There’s nothing you can do. And also, yeah, most of those people don’t even have kids.” (30:55)
• Fi (on relationships): “My man literally found time to text me, good morning. I hope you have a great day ... If they’re saying they don’t have time, move on.” (37:58)
• Mari (on new friendship dynamic): “The beautiful thing about Fi is ... you’re so accepting of my new life and you don’t make me feel bad ... That’s true friendship.” (46:06)

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Overall Vibe & Takeaways

• Honest, unfiltered conversation: The episode is full of humor, warmth, and radical honesty.
• Complex themes: The realities of weight loss medication, empathy and anger in motherhood, evolving friendships, online judgment, and personal transformation.
• Relatability: Both hosts share struggles that many women experience—food/body issues, boundary setting, maternal anxiety, and the value of deep supportive friendships.
• Encouragement: Whether it’s managing health, relationships, or motherhood, the message is to give yourself (and others) grace, be honest, and keep growing.

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This episode is for anyone longing for a real, unfiltered chat about the messiness and rewards of modern womanhood—on the inside and out.

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Quick Segment Timestamps (Highlights)

• [09:33] Fi’s GLP-1 and weight regain experience
• [13:27] Oprah's book and emotional reframing
• [24:03] Mari’s reflections on motherhood and her own childhood
• [39:44] Navigating friendship transition & codependency
• [46:06] “Auntie Fee” and everyday friendship joys
• [50:55] Baby gymnastics & activities as a lifeline for moms

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For contacting Fi about Austin real estate:

“If you’re moving to Austin and looking for a rental or you want to buy, Fee knows what she’s doing. Call her—at your girl.” —Mari (58:55)

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For the full heart, humor, and wisdom, listen to the episode, but this summary covers the real talk and memorable moments for anyone who missed it.

Transcript

[A]

Okay, Fi, welcome back to the show.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

How's Fi's Ozempic journey going?

[B]

I was feeling so good and I was just like, I think I can go off of it. So I went off of it and, oh, my God, the food noise came back. Like, I. I can't even describe. Have you seen that viral video? The girl that said the 160 thing?

[A]

Act your way.

[B]

I'm over 160.

[A]

160. I look lean, dude. Fi came over to help me with Kai, which she's been doing so much, and I'm so grateful. He's a very smiley baby, smiles at everyone. I'm like, kai, we're in a bad mood today. And he's like, he's just the joy of my whole life. Everyone's asking how our friendship has evolved since leaving Bloom and me becoming a mom.

[B]

I'll be honest.

[A]

This is the Pursuit of Wellness podcast and I'm your host, Mari Llewellyn. Did you listen to Kylie yet?

[B]

I have not watched the whole episode, but I have been tuning in on TikTok.

[A]

I'm 15 minutes in. I'm obsessed with Kai.

[B]

I want to be her best friend.

[A]

Oh, she's such a go.

[B]

She needed to do this sooner because I think she's just been like. Like, unapproachable.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Just from social and, like, the way she came off.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And now I'm obsessed.

[A]

She is like, this is what Jake Shane said on the interview. He was like, you are like, the prettiest, most popular girl in school that we're all kind of intimidated of, but when we talk to you, you're like, love your skirt.

[B]

Yeah, like, your skirt. But, like, actually mean it's not really sexy. She was like, you're thirst trap. I'm obsessed.

[A]

Like, that would have been my reaction.

[B]

Makes me wonder what else Kylie Jenner sees on Instagram.

[A]

You know, I'm wondering if she's had a bloom. She definitely has.

[B]

She has definitely seen a photo of you.

[A]

That's crazy.

[B]

Like, I can confirm that, like, for

[A]

sure, but I feel like she's. I feel like she's had an energy drink.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or elite, because. Stop. We've worked with stars. Right.

[B]

And she definitely drinks them, I'm sure.

[A]

Yeah. Like, I'm obsessed. She is. Like, if I could give someone a bloom, she would be my first choice. I. I said this in a meeting the other day. I was like, I need Kylie.

[B]

I think you could get her.

[A]

I think she just crosses the boundary from untouchable celebrity to, like, a girl's girl influencer who we can all kind of like. Like we feel like we're friends with her.

[B]

Yeah. That's how I felt listening even to the little clips. I love her. I really want to be her friend.

[A]

Okay, Fee, welcome back to the show.

[B]

Thank you. I don't think I've been on in, like, a year.

[A]

No, I mean, I've barely been on in a year.

[B]

Like, the LA was the last time I came on my issue.

[A]

Your vagina issue?

[B]

Yeah. That was last June. That was literally almost a year ago.

[A]

That was.

[B]

We are fully recovered from that, guys.

[A]

If you haven't listened to that episode, please go back. That was the craziest thing that's ever happened to you.

[B]

Yeah. Barthel insists is no joke, but she's gone. She never came back.

[A]

But let it be known.

[B]

I actually did my first spin class again last weekend because I kind of thought I had read that spin can kind of, like, irritate things down there.

[A]

Do you think that was the reason you got it?

[B]

No, I think there were other reasons. We don't have to go into those, but I think there were other reasons. But I do think the spin, like, irritated it a little bit, and I was doing it a lot, but I spun the other day, and I was totally.

[A]

I spun.

[B]

I spun.

[A]

I. Okay. And the whole impetus of Fee being on the show today is so classic of where I'm at in my life right now, because I'm just kind of in a disarray in general. But Fee came over to help me with Kai, which she's been doing so much, and I'm so grateful. Like, obsessed with her baby, fears, loves babies. Ever since I met Fee, she's been like, I'm ready to be pregnant immediately. Like, she loves babies. She's so good with him. She is quite literally the only person that I like. This is horrible for me to say, but, like, the only person I really trust other than my nanny.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

To have Kai, I'm honest. Like, Fee puts him down for naps. She gives him bottles. She burps him like, you do the ask.

[B]

I'll, like, be at Mari's. And she'll be like, like. And I'm like, no, I want to do it. She's a grief sharer. I'm like, no, I want.

[A]

She does the stuff that isn't fun. And I'm like, I love it. Are you sure?

[B]

Told her. I'm, like, cosplaying as a mom right now. She, until I should be a mom,

[A]

has Kai on her hip and is like, walking around. But it's really cute because you and I have, like, spoken about Kai in a way forever, like, since we met.

[B]

It's crazy. I still look at him, and I can't believe. Can't believe he came out of you.

[A]

Can't believe.

[B]

Like, I can't fathom that.

[A]

But he also looks just like me now. Yeah, he's getting more and more like me also. Wait, guys, look. Yeah, you have to ch if you're watching on video. My friend Taylor made this this morning.

[B]

Taylor made it.

[A]

Taylor made it.

[B]

It is so spot on.

[A]

Can we, like, zoom in on this?

[B]

Kai is Daniel Craig.

[A]

If you really. Okay, so he really is. My dad used, when he was younger, like, looked like Daniel Craig, times Colin Firth.

[B]

I think he still resembles him.

[A]

Yeah, I see it.

[B]

I definitely see it. Because I always say Kai looks a lot like your dad when he, like, smirks and smiles. I'm like, oh, my God, Mario, I see your dad.

[A]

I know. Don't tell him that. I mean, he'll never listen to this. So we have. No. We don't have to worry about that.

[B]

My favorite thing Kai does. You guys, I don't. I don't think I've said this to you. Tell me what? He will have his passy in and he smiles, like, around his passy.

[A]

I know.

[B]

And it makes my ovaries explode.

[A]

I see it in my eyes.

[B]

And then, like, sometimes his passy falls out because he smiles so big, and it's the cutest thing I've ever seen in my life.

[A]

He's a very smiley baby.

[B]

He is smiles at everyone. We went to an art gallery the other day. Literally smiling at all the women. Like, just like a little ham at the coffee shop. Yeah.

[A]

He's a flirt, and I, like, wasn't in the mood to talk to anyone, and he's like.

[B]

And then he smiles at everyone. Mari's like.

[A]

I'm like, kai, we're in a bad mood today.

[B]

And he's like, not the vibe. And Kai's like.

[A]

You'd think he was like a. A Leo or something. He's so.

[B]

What is the sign? Sagittarius.

[A]

Oh, they're very go with the flow.

[B]

I don't know much about sags.

[A]

Very, like, go with the flow. Easygoing, like, not uptight, which is good for. For me, I think.

[B]

I know I've only seen portions of it, but from what I've been around, he is a very happy baby.

[A]

Super happy. He does escalate very quickly. Like, if he's hungry, you're Going to freaking out, screaming. Yeah. He's just the joy of my whole life. I mean, but I've just.

[B]

I don't know. I know some babies can be like, really, like have colic. Like, you know, be like really colic.

[A]

He was colic.

[B]

Remember when he was like, oh, with his little tongue thing.

[A]

Your tongue thing. And he was like, the gas was pretty extreme.

[B]

Been there. I know.

[A]

But like, once we got past that, I was like, wow, this is amazing.

[B]

But now he's so happy.

[A]

I'm honestly blessed that we went through that at the beginning because it has made everything feel so much easier from there. By the. Oh, my God, Fee. The nap yesterday that we screwed up.

[B]

Oopsie.

[A]

The worst night of his life.

[B]

Really.

[A]

It just. He went to bed at six, no feet. We fucked everything up.

[B]

Oh, no, it's okay.

[A]

Yami was so tired.

[B]

He didn't go to sleep that late, so.

[A]

Because we were. This is how crazy it is.

[B]

Why did he wake up when he woke up from that nap?

[A]

Because we were late on the nap. He should have been asleep at 2:30.

[B]

Oh. And it was like three. Yeah.

[A]

So we fucked that up. He woke up early, wouldn't nap. He was supposed to nap for two hours and then the whole night was destroyed. I was like, what are we gonna do in Europe first?

[B]

You texted me and you're like, he's great. He went to bed at 6. I was like, oh, perfect.

[A]

No.

[B]

Okay, well, no. Oops. Our bad.

[A]

I know.

[B]

We put him down and then we went back in and like, he was just. He literally smiling.

[A]

We Both tried for 20 minutes and

[B]

like I was like bouncing him and he's just smiling at me and I'm like trying not to make eye contact with him. So he like, doesn't engage, but he's just smiling.

[A]

It's okay. We tried our best. So what's the update with you? Like, we literally walked in the office and Fee's like wheeling and dealing on the phone.

[B]

I was on a call with a mortgage lender. What?

[A]

Oh my God.

[B]

I have a house under contract right now and I just had the inspection yesterday and it all came back very good. Probably one of the shortest inspections I've ever had, which is like the best. But a couple little things we're going to address with an amendment and then hopefully get out of option. And.

[A]

You're such a natural. She's such a.

[B]

It's been so fun. Like real estate. It's definitely like a roller coaster. Lots of ups and downs. There are periods where like, I feel Like, I have nothing going on and I'm doubting myself and, like, why did I think this was a good idea? And then there's times where, like, I have a million people, like, reaching out and things happening. So you kind of just have to ride the waves and know that, like, when you're at a low. Yeah, it'll come back. But it's just been so fun, like, getting to know all my clients and meet new people and, like, I mean, you know me, but, like, I've literally become friends with all my clients, I'm sure, but that I, like, have movie nights with them and, like, hang out with them and go to coffee and workouts with them, but that's kind of

[A]

the tea, I think.

[B]

It's so fun with real estate. Yeah. You just. And, like, you get to meet people that, like, normally maybe you would never come and contact with. And I don't know. I just. It's so fulfilling to me. Like, the family right now that we have under contract, they just had a baby kind of the same time as Kai, like, two weeks before. And they're just the sweetest couple. And, like, getting to help them find a home that, like, they get to raise their baby in for the next couple years is just like.

[A]

But that's, like, your talent is, like, being this super friendly. Like, thank you. You're warm. You make friends easily. You're good at networking and connecting. Like, it really is all your talents in one.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, it's crazy. I had never considered real estate, like, really ever. And then once I got into it, it's, like, been like, well, I can't believe I didn't do this sooner kind of thing.

[A]

It's fun to watch you doing it. It really is. You're crushing it.

[B]

You're so sweet.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But, yeah, it's been fun. So I've been doing that. What else have I been doing? Oh, my gosh. I have some GLP updates. I want to know, like, what were they asking about? Because you did a little Q and A box.

[A]

Do you want me to pull up the Q and A? Yeah, let's just dive in.

[B]

Let's just see and see.

[A]

And I'm sure updates will come.

[B]

But, yeah, I have had a whole experience with GLPs since I was on last.

[A]

Let's talk about that for sure.

[B]

Because that's been interesting.

[A]

Oh, yeah. How's Fi's Ozempic journey going?

[B]

Okay.

[A]

That was, like, the top question.

[B]

Dive in.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I actually have gotten a bunch of DMs, like, in the Last couple months being like, are you still on it? What are you doing? So I had been on it for, like, a year and a half up until December of last year, and then I was feeling so good. I was like, I feel like I've, like, gotten in a rhythm. I had maintained a certain weight for months, like, for, like, a year. And I was just like, I think I can go off of it. Like, in my head, I was like, I feel like my food noise is gone. I feel like, probably, like, my stomach shrunk, so I probably won't be, like, binging and overeating. So I went off of it, and, oh, my God, the food noise came back with a vengeance. Like, I can't even describe.

[A]

That's so interesting that I felt.

[B]

And just to be like, I don't want to get into, like, numbers necessarily, but, like, I basically gained back what I had lost over, like, a year and a half in two and a half months.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Which is insane. Yeah. Which also proved to me that, like, there's other stuff going on than just because I was working out more than I had been the whole time I was on it at this point. I had gotten back into weightlifting. I was working out. I was doing Pilates twice a week. I. I was meal prepping. And yet all this weight came back on that. I was doing the exact same thing on it, if not less, and was not getting weight.

[A]

And now. Now you're addressing, like, the gut issues that you think you have.

[B]

Yes. I finally, like, got looked into. I finally went to a gastro, which, like, I've been talking to Mari about, literally ever since I met you, that

[A]

I've had tummy issues. Yeah.

[B]

So finally did that. Got a ultrasound the other day. I'm waiting for those results. I did a SIBO test. Yeah, I did a SIBO test that all came back negative, which is good. Glad I, like, don't have Sibo.

[A]

I always thought you had Sibo.

[B]

Me, too. But no. Sibo used to, like, drink this. Gross. Drink and sit and breathe. It was like a Sibo breath test. I don't know. That's, like, the preliminary test of it, but that came back negative.

[A]

So did you feel like. Okay.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

When you were on the GLP1 before, you were. I feel like you're doing this journey differently. Like, what did you realize from that to now? And what are you doing differently?

[B]

Definitely that first time around, I think I. It was just, like, the first time I had really experienced not having food noise, and I think I may have dug into that A little too strong. Yeah. Was definitely not eating enough. Wasn't working out enough. I definitely lost quite a bit of muscle. I experienced a bunch of hair loss, which, like, that is so common. I see it everywhere now, girls just like. Like, I had hair coming out in clumps, which, speaking of, I am wearing extensions for the first time.

[A]

They're so beautiful.

[B]

They're clip ins, you guys. No one would have known my Mormon wives clip ins.

[A]

You look like a Utah girly.

[B]

But I'm trying to. I've really been on, like, a hair health journey since all that, using, like, serums and, like, just really trying to take better care of my hair.

[A]

I'm on that journey too, you know,

[B]

like, my hair was, like, a big part of my identity.

[A]

Yeah, it's.

[B]

And I was like, how is it? Like, of course, like, I, like, you know, lose weight and, like, finally feel like I'm like, you know, fitting better in my clothes and stuff. And then, like, I'm going bald. I'm like, okay, you can't have both.

[A]

But to be fair, I think you just weren't eating enough.

[B]

Yeah, I was definitely not eating enough in general.

[A]

I think if you were eating more, that wouldn't have happened.

[B]

Protein and all that. So learn my lesson. That time around. All this to say, I actually met with my doctor this time around and talked to her. And in between this, I read this book and I actually have this little excerpt from it because I was like, I need to share about this. So in between, when I went off of it and was trying for, like, the two and a half months to just get it under control myself, I listened to this audiobook. I actually saw it on the shelf at Target, and I was like, what's that? It's called Enough your Health, your Weight, and what It Is Like To Be Free. And it's by Oprah, and it's co authored by this YALE Obesity expert, Dr. Anya.

[A]

Oprah's an advocate for GLP1.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well, like, if you look at Oprah over the last 30 years, her whole, like, on magazine covers, it was like, she's losing 60. She's gained it. She's losing. And she, like, addresses that in the book. And she's like, my whole life has just been, like, for the world to see, like, weight losses and weight gains, and it has felt so out of my control.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But this Dr. Anya, I don't want to say her name wrong, but Jastreboff. And the book frames obesity as a treatable disease rather than a personal failure. Or lack of willpower. And it explains how modern medic medications can reduce intrusive food noise and lower your brain's set point to achieve lasting health. Which. The whole book, basically, it, like, gave me the knowledge and also, just, like, less. I think it was, like, willpower. I always thought it was willpower, and I always thought I just wasn't strong enough and that I was, like, weak and that I couldn't stick to something long enough. Meanwhile, I'm very type A. Yeah, you are. Yeah. Like, if I say I'm gonna do something, I will do it.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

But this was the one area of my life that, like, I felt so out of control, and it was so frustrating. And it makes you. Anyone that's dealt with, like, weight gain and stuff through their life, like, or whatever, just dealing with food, you know, food, noise and image issues.

[A]

It is so consuming.

[B]

Yes. All consuming. But it also just really makes you, like, doubt yourself. You, like, start to feel like you're going crazy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And you're like, what am I doing wrong?

[A]

When you're working hard and doing all

[B]

the things, I feel like I'm doing everything right. And I had times where I worked with trainers and got super drastic and, like, Macro counted everything and did hours. Remember when I used to go to the gym twice a day when we lived in la? I was at Gold's. I was lifting in the morning. I was doing 45 minutes of stair Stepper a night. And, yeah, I saw results. But, like, I was killing myself in the gym, and that's not sustainable, like, at least for me. And so all that to say this book kind of just gave me, like, it took a weight off my shoulders.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I was like, oh. Like, it's not in my control.

[A]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Which is hard for me because I do feel like I like to take responsibility for myself and my actions.

[A]

You do.

[B]

And I see. You know, I've seen other kind of, like, wellness people online or TikToks and stuff, and they're just like, you want to lose weight? Just, like, put down the fork. Like, you're just eating too much and, like, hit the gym. Like, have you seen that viral video? The girl that said the 160 thing?

[A]

Act your weight.

[B]

I'm over 160.

[A]

I'm over 160, dude. 160. I look lean, dude. Yeah, that's lean for me.

[B]

60 is actually my, like, really?

[A]

That's my goal weight right now.

[B]

I look great and I'm healthy and I have hair on my head. So same to you. That was crazy, by the way.

[A]

Oh, it's good that we say that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't think people realize. Yeah, I'm 5 10. Yeah. You're what, 5, 9?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, we're tall. We're not, like, itsy bitsy gals. 100 is a body.

[B]

Like, we're not little teenage girls anymore that weigh, like. And no shame again, if you weigh

[A]

that much, like, if you have muscle and you lift weights, you weigh more.

[B]

Yeah. But having muscle body's just so different. And, like, I love how I look at 160.

[A]

That's actually currently the goal.

[B]

I love it.

[A]

Yeah. I love it.

[B]

And that girl said, you, you know, should hit on the treadmill.

[A]

She's like, get back on the treadmill. I was like, this effing idiot. Seriously, I should. I should do a stitch to that.

[B]

I know. I saw Kendall did one. I've seen a bunch of Kelly Matthews. I've seen a bunch of people respond.

[A]

What should I. I should be like. I should just post a video of myself and be like, I'm.

[B]

You should do like. You should bring it back like an old transformation photo and be like, that's me at 160. Yes. Like the one where you're in the pink bikini on the beach in Hawaii.

[A]

I was 160 in that photo. Yeah. And I'm Jack.

[B]

No, you look. Yeah. Or Cabo. The cute Cabo. Picking, like, the purple and orange bikini. Not me knowing, like, every item. Mario. Because I picked it all. Oh, yeah.

[A]

And we were at Gold's Gym for. Oh.

[B]

Oh, my God. Yeah. So. Yeah. So that. That has been my whole journey with that.

[A]

So what are you doing now?

[B]

Okay. Different. So. Yes. So I met with my doctor, and actually, the first thing I said to her, I was like, I was on a GLP through, like, not a med spot. Like a wellness.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Practice here. But not my actual doctor. And then I had gotten one online, and I said, look, like, what is your philosophy around weight loss? And, like, using these? And I didn't say anything how I felt. I was just like, what do you think? And she was like, it's like a lifelong tool. Like, you can't just get on it and get, like, lose the weight and then get off of it. Like, you have to stay on it. And I was like, thank you. Because I felt like everyone else I had met with was like, you'll lose the weight and use that as a tool and then make healthier life choices and then keep it off.

[A]

Which for some people, that Might be the case. But like you, you were. I've watched you work your face off.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

To get lean and it was still a struggle for you. Yeah.

[B]

And like, you know, I have friends who dabbled in it and lost seven to ten pounds like before their wedding.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And they naturally just are leaner people.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And yeah, I get it. And like when I would talk about food noise to them and they're like, what do you mean? I'm like, you don't wake up thinking about what you're going to eat and then your next meal and your next meal and go to sleep thinking about what you're going to eat. Like, what do you mean?

[A]

And they're like, the only time I ever felt like that was when I was dieting too much. And I.

[B]

When you're restricting.

[A]

Yes. But I, I'm one of those people that I don't think has.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Food noise. And. But I can relate in some ways. Yes.

[B]

For sure. Yeah. Like when you, when you restrict too much, you're obviously gonna have food noise. Your body's like screaming for food. It's because it's hungry, you know. But I think beyond that, like, you know, it definitely runs in my family. Like, it's just a thing. It's been my whole life. My whole life I've fixated on food. It's been like a crutch for me and I'm lucky, you know, I've never really like gotten an issue with drinking or anything like that. But food for me is a drug and unfortunately you can't not eat food to live. You have to eat food. So I met with my doctor, went through it all. I got back on. I'm actually trying tirzepatide, a compounded tirzepatide. This time, you know, have to pay out of pocket. But to me it's worth it and less. Yes.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, yes. I started, yeah, I've started really low. I just upped my dose for the first time that I'm like kind of actually starting to feel it again. But you know, I was with Mari yesterday and I was saying like, I know I need to be eating and like I packed hard boiled eggs to her house and like anytime I can just try to get protein, if I am slightly hungry, like I'm going to go for protein first. Yeah. Even if it's like a, literally like a bowl of ground beef or turkey or something. I'm just trying to do that versus

[A]

you're being very intense.

[B]

I would be like, eat a piece of sourdough Bread.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And be like foam.

[A]

An uncrustable.

[B]

I do still love my uncrustables and I really need to work on that because that has been.

[A]

I've never had an uncrustable and I don't understand what they are.

[B]

It's an addiction. Addiction. At this point, I'm like fully addicted.

[A]

Where do you buy those?

[B]

V, agb, Amazon, AGB or Target? Anywhere. Like a grocery store. They have high protein versions now. And my favorite one, me and my boyfriend are hooked on them. It's called like up an apple and it's peanut butter and like honey and like cinnamon apple butter or something.

[A]

That does sound good.

[B]

It is crack, but they're literally like 320 calories.

[A]

What is the ingredients?

[B]

They're actually. It's. It's literally bread and peanut butter, actually. Yeah. I'm sure there's like additives to make them last in your freezer. But you know what I will say the fact that you have to keep them frozen.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And that's interesting. And then eat that makes me feel a little better.

[A]

That's true.

[B]

If it was a PB&J that just sat on the counter all day and you could grab for you know what? I would not eat that.

[A]

You could be waking up and doing crack. Yes.

[B]

And instead I'm just addicted to uncrustables. I saw this crazy statistic, though, that the NFL goes through. Like me comparing myself to an NFL athlete, but that the NFL. NFL goes through like 50,000 of them a season.

[A]

They do pregame, literally.

[B]

I actually. Okay, so all that to say I've been eating them as a pre workout snack. Like, I eat them 30 minutes before I go and lift. And it has helped my lifts tremendously because I used to lift fast.

[A]

You know what people do that before lifts. They eat like a little Snickers bar or something.

[B]

It's like, it's a. Like, maybe it's kind of like a dirty pre workout. Like, I used to watch these gym bros. I'd be like, yeah, I eat a Rice Krispie treat and like a handful of sour patch and I have like the best pump.

[A]

What everyone's asking about life as Auntie Fee and like your relationship with Kai

[B]

and me, it's been so fun. Like, truly, he is just the cutest little baby. He really is the cutest. And I love seeing you be a mom. Aw. It has been really special. It's like, it has been interesting. See, like you've. I don't want to say you've changed. Like, you've changed.

[A]

I know I'm a different person and not.

[B]

And I'm not saying it's like for the better.

[A]

I agree.

[B]

I think. I think especially working in social like the realm we're in.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Where like there's so much comparison or wasn't. There's so much comparison. And you're posting your life online. I think it's so easy to get caught up in that. And like what matters I know. And what's important and like what things used to frustrate you or irritate you and now it's like I feel like you're so unbothered with stuff. Cuz you're just like, I literally don't have the capacity nor care about that anymore.

[A]

No. I'm so unbothered with.

[B]

Because like I have a. Like I'm a mom and like that's my priority.

[A]

And like my, my stress tolerance is much higher now. Like I feel like especially when you and I were working together, I would get so stressed about things that didn't matter. And like, you know what?

[B]

We both did.

[A]

We both did.

[B]

We were just like so wrapped up in it. When you get that wrapped up in it. And like we also were grinding.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And when you put so much time and effort and are just like, go, go, go, go, go.

[A]

I did it to myself. Which is such a funny. You know what? I have moments in my life now that hit me. Like I traveled alone the other day for my face laser, which we should talk about.

[B]

I haven't told you. Yeah.

[A]

It was just me and Greg with one little suitcase going to the airport. And I was like, the fact that I used to get stressed out to travel. This is a spa day.

[B]

Yeah. You're like, this is.

[A]

I was like, I have one bad. And I'm only responsible for me. Kai isn't here. Like I was just like, this is a fucking spa.

[B]

Put stuff in perspective. For sure.

[A]

I'm just sitting there like, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Which like you're obsessed with Kai and Kai's like the best thing ever.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But suddenly you're like, oh, what was I worrying about before? Literally me and Greg would go on a vacation and I was stressing out.

[A]

It makes me feel like it's just before you have kids, you're so. You're not like this. You're an anomaly.

[B]

But it sure is.

[A]

It's almost a selfishness that you don't

[B]

realize you're self involved when you're self. Because all you have to think about is yourself.

[A]

And you also think everyone's thinking about you, and no one's thinking about you. And I think after you have a

[B]

baby, you look back and you're like, dude, yeah, you're.

[A]

No. And all I care about now is how he thinks of me, how he feels like. It's just such a different. Like my eyes are just. Yeah, it's a crazy realization to have. And I kind of. Okay, I had a bit of a spiral yesterday and thank God I had Fee with me. I was. I was going through it. And I want to talk about it because I do think other mums probably have experienced this. But when you first have your child, you have. And, you know, I don't really talk about my childhood in detail on the show. I never have, but I've touched on it. Like, in a way there's elements of my childhood that I love and I got to travel a lot and see different things, but there's for sure things about it that I would change. And when I had Kai, I had a level of empathy because I was like, wow, this is really hard. And I don't know how my parents did this. At the beginning when I didn't have as much help, I was like, this is crazy. I can't believe they pulled this off. But then you also have moments where you feel a lot of emotion

[B]

because

[A]

you're looking at this, like, perfect child and Kai is, to me, perfect. And he's smiling and he's. He just appreciates life and he's so happy all the time and just, like, innocent. And I just had this overwhelming, like, anger yesterday of, like, how could you ever take a child and ruin their innocence or make them upset or just not want to be involved in their life? Makes you, like, think about your childhood and your parents differently and you.

[B]

You get angry.

[A]

Yeah, you get angry. There's like, empathy and anger. I think motherhood is, like, the duality of so many things.

[B]

Like, I could see how it brings up so much stuff from your own childhood that makes you question and wonder and, you know, resent and get your. Yeah, I could totally see.

[A]

And it's like this mama bear instinct of, like, yeah, anyone who spends time with Kai should deserve to spend time with Kai. Like, I believe that I want everyone around him to be positive and love him and give him the best energy possible. And if anyone's coming around him with anything negative, I'm like, I'll punch, like, get back up. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or like, you just don't get to be around him.

[B]

Yeah, well, you realize, I mean, he is so young currently. But, like, as babies get older, like, you don't realize how much. Well, now you'd probably do, like, as a grown adult, you kind of think back and, yeah, you were like, a child and toddler. But, like, I remember vibes.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And anger and, like, feelings. You know, I come from a divorced house, too. And, like, I remember at, you know, like, my six, seven, eight years old being like, something's wrong. Something's not great right now.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, the. The energy in my house feels not

[A]

good, and what can I do as a child to fix it?

[B]

And you're so out of the loop, and you're a kid, and, like, you know, as your parents don't want to involve you in that, which, like, you know, if you're lucky, you maybe don't see a lot of fights or whatnot. But, like, I'm sure a lot of kids that have gone through that did. I did. And, like, it really, like, I think. I know I've, like, blocked out a lot of it, but sometimes I almost get, like, that's why. And it's like, whoa.

[A]

Well, that's probably why you And I don't, like, conflict.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

And I'm terrified of telling people how I feel because I'm scared of what will happen next.

[B]

I'm scared they're gonna leave.

[A]

Scared they're gonna leave. And I'm like, the fact that anyone would ever make a child feel that way.

[B]

I know.

[A]

I feel like when you have a child, you just are like, whoa.

[B]

I know. On the flip side, though, it is so, like, you know, I think back to my parents, and, you know, you can look at it one way. Like, when you have a kid and you're like, oh, that's so selfish of them to, like, do to their kid.

[A]

Which I also have feelings that they're just humans.

[B]

They're just humans. And also, I'm like, I love my parents, and they get along fine now, but, like, thank God they're not together.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, I'm so happy for both of them that they're not together, because I don't think they were right for each other. And I'm like, it would make my heart break even more if up till this day, they were together just for me and they were miserable and they, like, weren't sleeping in the same bedroom, whatever. Like, you know what I mean? Like, that would hurt me. And I don't think that's a great example either. So it is weird. Like, it's a weird level of being selfish for you and making Decisions for you versus your child, which it sounds like you're saying, like, right now you just feel like, everything, like, you want to do everything for Kai, which I get.

[A]

I am maybe to a fault, like, obsessed with him having a perfect life to compensate for, like, what I didn't have. But that's also not healthy, and I'll never be perfect, and I have to wrap my head around that. And also, to a certain extent, I need to be able to suck up my personal feelings for him to have the type of life that I want him to have. It's crazy, dude.

[B]

I think also, just. Also just practicing being present and practicing being grateful for stuff. We were talking about some stuff yesterday about him, and I'm like, if you just sat with that for 10 minutes and were like, he is so lucky. Yeah. Like, Kai is. He's healthy, gonna have a incredible life, and, like, oh, my God, over his head and that little boy, like, no matter what, like. And you know that that's, like, already such a blessing that a lot of

[A]

people can't say his life is going to be so different than mine was. And honestly, I could do a whole episode about this, but, like, it. It scares me, but it also makes me really happy.

[B]

Yeah. But it's good to appreciate it and, like, you know, like, acknowledge it and sit with it and, like, be aware of it, because, like I said, it's so easy to get caught up in just, like, wanting his life to be perfect and, like, well, what next? Like, what can I do next to make his life more perfect? And, like, just realize, like.

[A]

Like, every day I'm like, oh, my God, he didn't do enough stimulation exercises today.

[B]

I think he's great.

[A]

We can't practice sitting enough today.

[B]

He's doing great. You know what I mean? But all that to say, like, what you just said. It's like the pressure on the Internet now and the pressure, like, from other moms. I can't even begin to imagine when I have a child one day trying to just, like, I swear, like, pick the right nipple for a bottle. Oh, and there's people on the Internet being like, that is a bad nipple. Your child's gonna have a weird mouth deformity or, like, that's gonna give them gas or, like, that's a bad material. Like, you should not be putting microplastics in your. And, like, holy.

[A]

No.

[B]

Like, can I just feed my baby?

[A]

You can't get it right.

[B]

No. Like, you never do it right. Or, you know, the right stroller. God forbid you get a Stroller. And they're like.

[A]

Like, you're bad if you have help, you're bad if you don't have help, you're bad if you work, you're bad if you don't work, you're bad if there's nothing you can do. And also, yeah, most of those people don't even have kids. Yeah. Like, literally when people were commenting about my mother effing carrier, like, how I. Sorry. I just had a baby for the first time. I used my carrier wrong. I see a million people do it every day.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

The carrier police came for me.

[B]

Mike.

[A]

Do any of you actually have kids?

[B]

Which is one thing. Like, I get, like, if someone was

[A]

saying it's dangerous, but.

[B]

But even, like, I can't. I'm sorry. I can't imagine getting on someone's like a stranger's video. No. And being like, hey. You're like, what the false.

[A]

So don't you think I'm the most

[B]

concerned someone in, like, someone in her life that she, like, knows and cares would, like, like. I just. The audacity of people on the Internet these days just, like, blows my.

[A]

I can promise you the mum parenting their kid cares way more about their kids well being than you do.

[B]

Yeah. You know, and also, like, it's your first time. Yeah. You're gonna make mistakes.

[A]

My God.

[B]

Right.

[A]

At least.

[B]

But like, he's fed, he's sleeping, he's happy.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

He's great.

[A]

Yes, ma'.

[B]

Am. You know, I. That. That's a whole.

[A]

A lot of people are asking if you're still with the boyfriend.

[B]

Oh, yes, I asked him. I was like, can I talk about us? And he was like, yeah. He said, yeah, well, I'm not gonna go into, like, detail detail, but we're great. I'm gonna go visit him next week. Yeah. We've just been like, great. I'm obsessed with him. Yeah.

[A]

He's.

[B]

I want to marry you too. I've told him that. Look at that. I was like, shy.

[A]

He's a sweetie.

[B]

He's the best.

[A]

He's a sweetie, guys. He's like a. He's a gentleman.

[B]

He's just a man. Country accent, like a real man.

[A]

I love the accent and I love it.

[B]

Yeah. He calls me darling and I about

[A]

died, but what did he used to call you that? You told me. That was so funny.

[B]

Oh, Playgirl. When we first met, he started calling me Playgirl. And like, he sent me flowers for my birthday. They said, happy birthday, Playgirl. And I was like, what does playgo mean? He says it's endearing. I was like, that sounds like a side piece. Like, that sounds like you're like, side. He's like, oh, no, no, no. I'm like, playgirl. He's interesting. But no, I prefer darling over Playgirl.

[A]

That's cute.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And you get. They, like, love playing golf together, which is just. I mean, it's adorable.

[B]

I'm bringing my clubs on this trip. Yeah. He, like, got me into golf and actually cared to, like, teach me stuff, which was so fun and, like, great. I'm like, oh. And it just.

[A]

The.

[B]

The difference from dating someone that wants you to be around versus someone that finds every excuse to not spend time with you. Like, the fact that he golfed and he was like, oh. Like, instead, you know, I mean, again, I let him go golf with his mitt and do his guy time. Cool. Great. I don't want to be in on that. But the fact that unlike a lot of men who are like, oh, thank God my wife doesn't golf, like, fine, I can spend eight hours with the boys and get, like, wasted, like, on the golf course, whatever. He's like, oh, my gosh. Like, that'd be so fun for us to do together. Like, then we can spend more time together on my off days and, like, you can come golf with me.

[A]

That's how it should be.

[B]

You want me? No.

[A]

It's so funny thinking about your life previously.

[B]

She's just.

[A]

Yeah, it's not funny. Obviously.

[B]

It is. It's fun.

[A]

Sad. It's. Yeah.

[B]

But I don't know. I was talking to one of my girlfriends who's, like, been struggling with dating here in Austin, and it's tough, but I just, like, keep trying to remind her, you will not have to settle for the right person. And you kind of just, like, you never know who's going to come along, and you just got to keep trucking forward. And I never thought I'd meet J. Like, the fact that we met is, like, kind of crazy.

[A]

How'd you meet again?

[B]

My friends introduced us, but, like, he doesn't even live here most of the year, but he's from Texas. And, like, it just. Just, like, all the layers and things that had to happen the way they did and, like, his previous relationship in life and my. Like, the fact that everything happened the way it did and timed out the way it did is, like, kind of crazy.

[A]

It is crazy.

[B]

We've ended up together.

[A]

But I saw Emma Leger talking about this. She's, like, an influencer.

[B]

She just got engaged. She just got engaged, like, central park.

[A]

And she had just gone through this horrific breakup and, like, hated the guy and then met this guy way too early, and was. She was like, I'm not, you know, Ready?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Now they're engaged a year later. Pretty amazing.

[B]

Please take notes.

[A]

Take notes.

[B]

I'm kidding. Yeah. No, he knows I, like, tell him.

[A]

Her ring is. Did you see it?

[B]

No.

[A]

It's gorgeous. Champagne and yellow diamond twa. Moi together.

[B]

Oh, yes, I did see a little.

[A]

She, like, designed it with him, though. I found out, like, he didn't. I was like, that's incredible taste if the guy picked that. But, yeah, you can tell.

[B]

I'm, like, into. Now I'm into, like, cushion.

[A]

Cushion. I love cushion.

[B]

Or even old mine.

[A]

What's that?

[B]

It's kind of like, almost like an elongated cushion. Like, I like the longer cushion cut.

[A]

We should just go try them on.

[B]

Like, I know. I'm obsessed.

[A]

We could go to Corman.

[B]

You were telling me about them.

[A]

The prices are a little bananas, but

[B]

just, like, for vibes.

[A]

Yeah, for vibes. For inspo. Yeah. I mean, really, what we need to do is go to the New York diamond district. Yeah. Or, like, the LA diamond district. I want a new ring, too.

[B]

All right, Let me get one before you get another.

[A]

You're right. Okay. Sorry.

[B]

I'll hold your horses.

[A]

I want to be, like. I want to be Victoria Beckham, where I got a new one. I'm a freak.

[B]

The saddest part, when Mari got her last engagement ring, I was, like, fully in the trenches of my last relationship, like, begging this man to propose to me. Never happened.

[A]

Well, I bought. I bought my own, but.

[B]

Yeah, but, like, I remember shopping for years, and I was just like, well,

[A]

you tried on a bunch, too.

[B]

I know, but I just think I was. It was, like, a hard time for me. I think I was in, like, the dark. And again, like, you bought your own, but whatever. I was just like, God, like, Mari's getting this, like, gorgeous ring, and I'm over here, like, begging my ex to just, like, care about me.

[A]

Text you back. That was. Yeah, he was really.

[B]

Yeah. It's okay. We don't have to.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Sorry about him.

[A]

We don't, but definitely don't.

[B]

We wish.

[A]

We'll go try on rings.

[B]

Yeah, I would love to do that. Jacob's gonna be like, you're crazy.

[A]

No, you're definitely not crazy.

[B]

No, no, no.

[A]

You guys. You guys are, like, actively talking about it.

[B]

We talk about it all the time. But, like, honestly, I'm gonna be so for real. I've talked about from day one, which I don't know if that's toxic, but I also think. I think you should talk about that when you know. You know. Yeah, Truly. That is such a feeling. And I was telling him the other day, like, I can't imagine a day without him in it. And him and I have talked. I actually said this to him, and he was like, yeah, you're right. Him and I have talked every single amazing since the day we met.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Every single day. He has never spent one day. He has never ghosted me. We do long distance. This man is away. This man. We did long distance from two weeks of knowing each other.

[A]

Also, he's in. Can I say what he's in? Yeah, he's in baseball, which means he works every single day on the go.

[B]

And this man. So for all you girls who's the. You know, they're like, ugh, making excuses for a man. Being like, well, he's just busy with work and, like, you know, he's got a lot on his plate. Like, my man literally found time to text me, good morning. I hope you have a great day. Checked in with me during the day. Hey, I'm eating lunch. Like, how's your day? How was your showing? Yeah, Telling me good night. Like, it's that simple. But, like, they have time. And if they're saying they don't have time, move on.

[A]

We were talking about this yesterday. I can't wait for Fee to have a baby one day because my experience with having a husband that works a lot and is like a CEO and a co founder and travels a ton can be very lonely and difficult. And I'm, like, still managing that. And I just think you're gonna relate to me probably totally. And I can't wait to have a gal pal in mum life. I mean, I've made some good.

[B]

Sooner than later, I know it'll happen.

[A]

I'm excited. Everyone's asking how our friendship has evolved since leaving Bloom and me becoming a mum. I mean, when. I mean, we're always. Whenever I see you, I'm like, it feels the same.

[B]

The same.

[A]

It feels like we've picked up.

[B]

I think it feels better.

[A]

Me too.

[B]

I'll be honest. Oh, no, I'll give some tea. Well, it's not really tea, but Mari's face, she's like, shut up.

[A]

Because you know they're gonna get me in trouble.

[B]

No, no, no, no.

[A]

They're always on your side.

[B]

Yeah, that also needs to stop. You guys, like, me and Mari are best friends and, like, never Peg us against each other.

[A]

We're always good.

[B]

But, like, when we. When I left, I don't even know now, a year and a half ago, like, whatever. Mari and I had been. Okay. Like, you know when you and your best friend spend every waking moment together for, like, you're on a trip for a week, and by the end, you're like, I wanna. Yeah, like, anyone. Like, you and your. But, like, that's like childhood growing up. You go on a trip with your friend, by the end you're like, oh, my God. Like, whatever.

[A]

But we don't ever talk to each other like that.

[B]

No, no, no. We were never. But, like, we spent every waking minute together, basically for, like, four years. And I think we can both say this now. Like, we had kind of developed, like, a codependency with each other. For sure.

[A]

That's valid.

[B]

Maybe not the healthiest codependency.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I think we both just were so caught up in it. And, you know, I had said to Mari and you. This was, like, kind of why, you know, people were like, why'd you stop working there? Like, when Mari and I ultimately decided to part ways, I had said to her, like, you know, I would have never left.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I know. I would have never been the one to be there.

[A]

But that was part of the reason. Yeah.

[B]

Which I am so grateful that you had the hard conversation with me and, like, were the one to kind of, like, instigate it. Cause it was time. I know. And I was ready to, like, kind of move on and do something myself. I know. But I would have never left because that's just me. I know. Which is something I know I need to, like, work on. Like, I do it in romantic relationships, too. I stick around way too long because I'm just, like, scared. And, like, I'm.

[A]

I.

[B]

Like, I'd rather be in something that maybe isn't, like, right for then. Like, the unknown. Because the unknown's scary.

[A]

But that was, like, the worst day of my life. Yeah. Honestly, I hated that so much. And I think at the time, I was, like, in such a weird transition for myself. I was like, I wanna.

[B]

You weren't even. You weren't pregnant yet, and you were really struggling with all that.

[A]

Really struggling. And I was like, I know when I do get pregnant, I don't want to work as much. And I'm worried about Fi's career and what she's gonna do with me.

[B]

Yeah. Which I really appreciated because, like, we were going full force on this podcast. Like, I was booking Mari, like, crazy like, we were. It was insane.

[A]

It was dope. Honestly, it was.

[B]

And, like, we were traveling to London and New York and, like, all over, doing all these interviews. It was so cool.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

But I appreciated that you kind of realized you were ready. You were about to take a step back and you didn't want me to be like, well, what the fuck? Like, I'm here grinding, and you, like, just are ready to break. Like, what do you mean? So. But, like, it was a little.

[A]

It was hard.

[B]

Weird. For a bit.

[A]

It was hard.

[B]

You know, like, I think when you're as close as we are, it's hard to not mix.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Personal and work.

[A]

And it was like, refiguring out our dynamic.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Because we'd always. We'd never been friends without working together.

[B]

Which people always ask. We worked together before. We were best friends. We weren't best friends first.

[A]

Yeah. But I always knew, like, even when we were working together, I'm like, this is my soul sister.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

And one day we're not going to be working, but we're still going to be best friends. But we had to go through this, like, yeah. Hard.

[B]

But that's how we got.

[A]

It was like a breakup.

[B]

Yeah, it is. But that's how we got so close and so, like, no regrets. Like, I. You know, when it was happening, it was tough.

[A]

Yeah, it was.

[B]

And it was hard because I was like, well, I moved to Austin. I'm like. And I was like, what am I gonna do now? And, like, you know, I knew I, like, didn't really want to do, like, pursue, like, podcast. Like. Like, I don't know. I was just kind of, like, I also. And you, again, I think, saw this that I couldn't even see for myself. I was, like, kind of lost of, like, who I was and my identity.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I had just gone through a breakup. Yeah. That, like, I had moved here with him. And, like, it was kind of, like, the final piece of my life that, like, hadn't changed. And I. I saw it fine. Like, once it all happened, I was like. It was like, if I had continued. If those things had changed and I had continued working with Mari and Bloom, like, I think I would have never been able to really, like, move on and, like, work on my identity and, like, figure out who I was also.

[A]

You're so confident and independent now, and, like, you're running a fucking real estate business. Listen, you have a.

[B]

Which I really struggled with that before. Like, I. And I do think all of that had to kind of end, and I had to, like, really take a break and, like, reset.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And my life is, like, totally 180 from then. I'm with a, you know, new partner. I'm very happy.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I have a job that I really enjoy that, like, I would have never even thought about getting into if I, you know, stayed working.

[A]

And I remember you were thinking of being an assistant again, and I was

[B]

like, I just think you. Yeah.

[A]

Are.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, not that. Yeah, that's a bad job. I just. You have so many talents and skills and, like, I don't know. I think you. Yeah, you've really.

[B]

But I think I gained a lot of that confidence and knowledge and all that stuff from working with you and Bloom and the podcast and.

[A]

Yeah. You were handling, like a team of people. I know.

[B]

I. Like, it's crazy. I think back to when I first started at Bloom and, like, just with Mari, and I was just such a different person. Like, I was like a party girl, Louisiana, like, 25 year old. Like, not taking care of myself, like, binge drinking every weekend.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And, yeah, like, so much change. And my life reflected that. You know what I mean? Like, the people I surrounded myself with, who I was dating, like, it all reflected that. And I am, like, tenfold happier now with my life now. And it all kind of happened because I met you when I worked for Bloom, so.

[A]

I know I literally was talking to my personal trainer this morning, and I was like, me and Fi were like Paris and Nicole. Like, I. There's no word for what we were. Like, we would walk every room. You were there with me. Yeah. And we were like, everything. Tweedledee, tweedled up. Literally. We did everything running around la.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Doing crazy things that we probably should not have been doing. Like, why. Why are we interviewing this person? Like, you know what I mean?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, the opportunities. Yeah.

[B]

It was.

[A]

But to be fair, we were really a powerful duo. Like, I think people think it was me and Greg. It was just really you and me the whole time.

[B]

Tea. Like, two women handling with, like, a lot of Bloom stuff.

[A]

I know. We were.

[B]

We were. No, but we were. We really respect to Greg. Yeah. Especially the podcast wise. Like, we were freaking.

[A]

No, I mean, the reason this show became what it was.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Slash, you know, I picked out these chairs. You did pick out.

[B]

And this coffee table and that bookshelf.

[A]

Yo, you did this by yourself.

[B]

And I had no idea what I was doing.

[A]

So you would just do it by itself. I would walk in one day and you just did the studio. I was like, oh, cool. Okay. No, you're A very capable. She's a very capable human, you guys. But just from then to now, honestly, I think having a Kai and you being like this aunt figure is like, really crazy.

[B]

I know it is.

[A]

It's also amazing.

[B]

The original question, because, like, the beautiful

[A]

thing about Fi is that I know she is going to be happy to hang out no matter what we're doing, like on the couch, changing a diaper, putting in down for a nap. Like, in some ways, like, I feel like I. I can't just ask anyone to come do that with me because not everyone wants to do that and that's fair. Yeah, but you're so, like, accepting of my new life and you don't make me feel bad about it. And you're like, yeah, I want to do that with you. Like, bring Kai. Like, I'm like, okay, well, I have to leave in 20 minutes to eat his nap time. You're like, great, I'll come with you. Yeah, I'll put him down. I'm like, what?

[B]

Yeah, I have a couple friends who like my friend Taylor who is in North Carolina, and I visited her a ton last season when me and Jacob first started dating and she had a baby girl who's like one and a half now. And that was like, literally our dynamic. Like, I'd go hang out there all day and she'd be like, okay, like, wanna go like walk to a park and get coffee and then we have to go put her down for a nap and then you and I can hang out and talk for an hour while she's napping and then we have to do like, that's how she's like, okay. Yeah. And I'm like, great. Like, that's like, what True friendship. I always say, like, true friends are the ones when you guys are sitting on the ends of the couch and like, you're both scrolling on your phone and you're like, share us. You're like, sending each other stuff and then like, that's how I want to hang out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, if I ask you to come over and hang out, I want to sit on the couch with you and like, scroll and laugh at things and like, show each other things and then talk for a little bit.

[A]

That was us.

[B]

And then like, go back to our. Like, that's hanging out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

If I feel like I need to be like, engaged in a conversation and like, I'm tired.

[A]

Absolutely. I'm exhausted. Also, I probably don't like you that much if I'm doing that.

[B]

Honestly, like, my social battery, like, especially, like, I Mean, you obviously do all this, but, like, like in real estate and stuff, like, I'm with clients and inspections and showing houses and like, when I am not doing that now I'm like, couch. I literally want to sit with my dog on the couch.

[A]

But when feet. So Fee comes over like, every Sunday.

[B]

Domingo, my man.

[A]

My nanny called Fee, my Sunday friend. My Domingo amiga Domingo.

[B]

It makes me think of. Remember that. That Sabrina Carpenter and Marcelo. Yes, Domingo, that's me.

[A]

Oh, my God. But Irina has no idea how deep our friendship goes. So the fact that you're my Sunday friend is so funny. But when Fi comes over on Sunday, it's like we're two mommies just momming. Like, she comes out from putting him down and we high five each other

[B]

and we're like, wow, that was a tough one. Yeah. Oh, there was one time I like, literally tried to put him down. Three separate times. He's asleep in my arms. I go to put him down, like, right as I, like, pull my arm out from behind his head, he cries.

[A]

Kai does not sleep.

[B]

I come out and then finally I got him asleep. She's like, isn't that the best feeling? Like the most rewarding feeling when he's asleep? And I'm like, oh, no. It's like the best. Life changing, but it's a big battle.

[A]

Like, that kid does not want to sleep. He's pissed.

[B]

He wants to play, he wants to hang out.

[A]

He's. Yeah, that's his personality for sure.

[B]

But it's fun. I, like, I. I can't wait till I get to do it one day. But honestly, this has been such a good coping mechanism for me. Even Jacob was like, I'm really glad you're like, doing that because, like, getting your, like, baby time in without, like, actually having your own baby. I am.

[A]

Yeah. And it's good because I needed that. It's really fun. Is Fi gonna move to Charlotte?

[B]

Oh, yeah. People keep thinking. Cause, like, with my man's in North Carolina, you know, I. My boyfriend is from Texas and he would love to keep his, like, roots in Texas. He likes to be here in the off season. And like, this is where I'm building my business and I've kind of. We've come to the conclusion again. We are not married yet. We don't have kids yet. Like, this will probably all change in the next couple years. But, like, while I am building my career, like, I need to be here in Austin. At least in Texas, but, like, in Austin. And yeah, like, I visit as much as I can and Also, with his career, this is the thing. Like, he could go to another team next year and be in a completely different state.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So, like, why would I. At least in my mindset, I'm like, why would I pick up my entire life and go live somewhere which, like, literally could change next year? And so kind of the plan is to just like, keep our roots here always. And then, like I said, like, once we have kids and, like, that happens, like, we'll see.

[A]

I will say it's a great place to have a baby. Yeah. I think in my head, I always was like, maybe we'll move back to the east coast at some point. Like Connecticut or. I don't even know. But then when I had Kai, and there's, like, a great new mom community here.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

Great schools.

[B]

I think Austin is incredible. Incredible place for young families. There's, like, so much to do, like, most part. I mean, it gets really hot in the summers, but, like, very great weather. You can walk the trail, like you said, and. Oh, my gosh, I feel like I'm not even a mom yet. And I. I can already see, like, the groups of moms that do stuff and just like, it's crazy. Little parks. It's great. It's a great place to raise kids.

[A]

So I told you I signed Kai up for gymnastics.

[B]

Gymnastics.

[A]

Did I not tell you?

[B]

Oh, wait. Should we talk about our baby class that we're gonna do?

[A]

Yeah, we'll talk about baby classes.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I need to hear about gymnastics.

[A]

There's a place near Tarrytown that has, like, baby slash toddler gymnastics classes. And it teaches them, like, it's good for their bodies.

[B]

Yeah, they like to learn how to

[A]

hang and, like, tumble. Kai's gonna do it in September.

[B]

The baby cannot even crawl yet.

[A]

I know, I know. Well, he's already trying to crawl, though. You see him, right? Like, he's using.

[B]

Yes. He can sit, he can tripod.

[A]

So the thing with Kai is when you put him on his stomach and he's something he wants, he's like. He's like, swimming. Or he'll use his head as leverage, which really is concerning for me. Like, I'll look over at him and he's face planting.

[B]

One is crawling, like they say, at

[A]

like, eight months to ten months, I think.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

But I think based on he might

[B]

be a little sooner.

[A]

I think he's a little sooner. So by the time I'm back from Colorado, I think he will be crawling regardless. He'll probably be, like, the youngest in the class.

[B]

I'm going to visit Mari in Aspen.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

I've never been to Aspen, you guys, ever.

[A]

I'm so excited. We're gonna hike. We're gonna go out very dinner. We're gonna go. I mean, it's gonna be a lot of Kai things. Yeah. Which is so fun. We're gonna go to the library. The Aspen library is so cute. It's so beautiful. And it pops.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And it has, like, a little stream

[B]

around to hang out. That's cute. I love garden. I used to go to library growing up.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

That was like my dad's activity. Who would bring us to the public library next to my old high school?

[A]

A few years, maybe a month ago, I was like, desperate for activities to do with Kai because I was like, I want to go do things with him. Took him to a library down the street. We walked in, he pooped his pants, and then we left. Yeah, he wasn't good at Freddie. Yeah, he was. I was like, okay.

[B]

Something about a library. Like, the books. It's kind of like a. Yeah, a Ross just makes. You have to. But it was like, use the restroom. Have you seen that? Oh, I must be on, like, IBS constipated TikTok. Because girls are like, ugh. I haven't pooped in like a week. And they're like, girl temperature Starbucks. And go walk around Marshalls and you will. That's like a thing.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. Something about the light and the colors.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Stimulating. I just immediately. And we had to leave.

[B]

It's funny that you say that. Activities and random. Taylor Hasselhoff.

[A]

She sold me my house in la.

[B]

In la. She lives in Nashville now, I think. But I know. So weird. I still follow her.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And she's great. And she's about to have a second baby, if not already had it. But I saw her saying the other day, she is a little girl. And she was saying, like, the, like, the way to get through, like, that age and like, toddler years is she's like, activities.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We have a morning activity and an afternoon activity out of the house. And she's like, it keeps me sane.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I probably sound so creepy talking about her. But, like, I saw her right post this video and she was just like. It's like, we have nap time and whatever in the middle. And I have a morning activity and afternoon. She's like, if I stay in the house, she's like, first of all, the house turns into a literal, like, tornado.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And she's like. And second of all, I just can't Sit in the house all day.

[A]

No.

[B]

And I was like, my friend Taylor's like that, too. She, like, always takes Beckett out. I will say, gotta get out of the house. That's.

[A]

I think, why the, like, right now? Kai's at a really fun age, actually, to take him out. Like, you and I went out for coffee. We went to an art gallery yesterday. That was so fun.

[B]

He loved it.

[A]

I'm trying to go out more because when I have him for a full day and we don't leave the house, I'm struggling. Like, I feel like I'm in that show that, like, repeats stuff the whole day.

[B]

Groundhog Day.

[A]

You have to. Oh, my gosh. You have to go out. You have to.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or we, like, I'll, like, do a swimming activity with him. Yeah. But I cannot wait for activity age. Hence the gymnastics.

[B]

He's almost there.

[A]

Somber when he's two. Oh, my gosh.

[B]

Halloween.

[A]

I'm so excited.

[B]

Gotta sign him up for baseball.

[A]

Yeah, no, we're doing baseball for sure.

[B]

Just like, my. My friend Taylor's having a boy next, and I got him little baseball outfits with, like, little baseballs all over it. That's like, let's play ball. And I was showing them to Jacob, and I was like, I cannot handle this. He's like, you need to calm down, dude.

[A]

I mean, look at the little baby. Even seeing Kai, imagine, like, seeing him smile, I freak out. Imagine seeing him, like, running around with other kids.

[B]

I know. Oh, and his little hair, the way it's parted to the side.

[A]

Oh, yes.

[B]

So cute, you guys. Also, like, I was telling Mari this the other day. I was changing him, and I was like, I am so in love and obsessed with this baby, and he is not even mine. I was like, I. I. It, like, literally makes me sick to think about when I have a child. She's like, oh, no. You're like, never.

[A]

You're gonna be sick.

[B]

I'm gonna be.

[A]

Yeah, you're gonna be sick.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's a crazy icon, the fact that

[B]

I feel that way about other people's children. I just cannot fathom how I'm gonna feel about my own.

[A]

I know.

[B]

It just makes me that much more excited.

[A]

I know you're gonna be a freak like me.

[B]

I really am. Yeah.

[A]

We're gonna be friends.

[B]

It's okay. I love it.

[A]

It's fun to hang out with other freak mommies. Yeah. I think we're all probably freaks.

[B]

I mean, everyone's obsessed with their child. Like, you know, I know it's to a degree.

[A]

I Can't even describe. Okay, we should pro. Like, we've been talking for probably longer than it feels.

[B]

Our 20 minute segment about.

[A]

Did we miss anything? Oh, I got a laser done. I got CO2 laser.

[B]

It looks. Your face looks like it's pretty much almost healed. No, I know you probably have makeup on, but like, yeah, it takes.

[A]

So it is technically like healed, but you don't see the real full results for 2 to 3 months.

[B]

Cuz it like stimulates collage, collagen and like, really?

[A]

I still see like a little texture here in Dr. Chestnut. He's coming on the show next week.

[B]

Very glowy. Thanks. Oh, he is?

[A]

Yes. He's coming back on for part two. I love that. And he was like, that texture will get better and better and better because of like collagen and cell turnover. But I'm really excited. I mean, guys, heck yeah. My face.

[B]

You look very glowy. Thank you. Very glowy.

[A]

I looked absolutely bananas. Crazy. Like, my gosh.

[B]

My mom saw video and was like, I like, I guess I mean, I didn't tell my mom you got that done. She was like, what the happened to Mari?

[A]

People, people were messaging me, like, did some an accident?

[B]

Yeah. You looked like a burn victim or like someone threw acid on your face.

[A]

You basically are like, that's kind of what they do.

[B]

Burn your face off.

[A]

Yeah. And I was making like TikTok videos. I documented the whole thing if you want to go watch.

[B]

Also, just like the swelling.

[A]

Oh, my face was out to him. My face was out. People were commenting. Didn't know this was you until you started talking.

[B]

I had some people, friends of mine send this to me and we're like, oh, my God, this is Mari.

[A]

But, you know, I had more views than I've had in a long time. I think people get a sick fascination of stuff like that up.

[B]

Like other people that might be interested in the treatment, like, want to know, like, this is so toxic and this is the last place you should go look for anything like that. But like, whenever I have like a medical thing or anything, I immediate or like, I get a new medication.

[A]

Tick tock, tick tock.

[B]

Immediately.

[A]

I know I want to see people

[B]

talking about it, their experience, which I know this is like, probably bad. And I should be like listening to my doctor and not like strangers on the Internet. But it's like real life reviews and like, I want to hear all the tea.

[A]

I want to know. You know, I was typing in CO2 laser day by day. Like, I wanted to see what was going on.

[B]

I feel like people on the Internet have like, that's like, especially on Tick tock. Like with GLPs. Like there are people that fully have just like their whole Tick tock is just like their experience and like their injection day every day or like every week.

[A]

And like peptide talks. Yeah, I'm on talk. But they aren't really allowed to talk

[B]

about that because they're.

[A]

Yeah, but there are a lot of

[B]

them are selling it. Yeah.

[A]

Which is like a. Don't. Don't buy peptides from people on Tick Tock.

[B]

Yeah, I don't think. Yeah, I. I do think there's a

[A]

little bit of sketchy.

[B]

Yes. Definitely happening over there. So try to go through your doctor.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Well, Fee, it was so love you so much.

[B]

Love you too. I miss this.

[A]

Thanks for coming on. We have the best track, guys. Make sure you subscribe, make sure you leave a comment.

[B]

Follow me on Instagram, follow Fee and if you're looking to buy seller lease in Austin, give me a call.

[A]

Oh my God, is that your slogan? No, I'm obsessed.

[B]

But you should wait.

[A]

What's a good thing with the word fee?

[B]

You know what? I do like my last name's Attics. Yeah. Like a T, T I X. And my boyfriend literally thought my Instagram was like Fiona atx. Like Austin. Oh. Which I was like, that is a good play. Yes. But the only thing is if I do like logo or brand myself that way, then like I'm Austin. Yeah.

[A]

Because you might want to sell in other places, but.

[B]

So I'll probably just keep like my name is like.

[A]

But yeah. If you're moving to Austin and you're looking for a rental or you want to buy, Fee knows what she's doing. Call her at your girl. I'll leave her link in the description.

[B]

Thanks. To buy a house. Bye Bye.

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