Girl Chat w/ Fi: Dating, Ozempic, New Job & Austin Life

Summary

Pursuit of Wellness Podcast: "Girl Chat w/ Fi: Dating, Ozempic, New Job & Austin Life"

Release Date: February 6, 2025

In this engaging episode of Pursuit of Wellness, host Mari Llewellyn welcomes back her close friend Fi for a candid and heartfelt Girl Chat. The conversation delves into various facets of personal growth, career transitions, health journeys, and evolving relationships, offering listeners a deeply relatable and inspiring dialogue.

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1. Career Transitions and Real Estate Aspirations

The episode kicks off with Fi sharing her significant career shift into the real estate industry. She discusses the rigorous process of obtaining her real estate license in Texas, highlighting the extensive coursework and examinations required.

• Fi: "Texas is 180 hours of coursework to learn, and then there's two exams at the end. I've been taking all the courses, and I've done four out of the six course tests." ([02:10])

Fi expresses her excitement about joining a local brokerage and shadowing experienced agents, emphasizing her preference for hands-on learning. She reflects on the bustling Austin real estate market, noting its growth as people move from cities like LA.

• Fi: "It's a great market to be in and it's just completely new." ([04:15])

Mari acknowledges Fi's dedication and the challenges of balancing a demanding career with personal well-being.

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2. Navigating Personal Relationships and Breakups

A substantial portion of the conversation revolves around Fi’s recent breakup and her evolving perspective on dating. Fi opens up about her desire to keep her new relationship private, hinting at fresh beginnings.

• Fi: "I have been dating. That's what I'm gonna say." ([11:59])

They discuss societal pressures on women to maintain perfection in relationships, drawing parallels between Fi's experiences and high-profile breakups like that of Matt James and Rachel Kirkconnell.

• Fi: "It feels like your entire life is on pause because you're living in this countdown." ([01:03])

Fi shares her insights on avoiding relationships that trigger anxiety and the importance of finding partners who understand her background and emotional needs.

• Fi: "I need someone who gets it and has been there." ([25:29])

Mari and Fi explore the dynamics of past relationships, the struggle to change partners, and the significance of aligning life goals and values.

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3. Health Journey with Semaglutide (Ozempic)

Fi discusses her ongoing use of semaglutide (Ozempic) as part of her wellness routine, detailing how it has positively impacted her physical and mental health.

• Fi: "The mental aspect and the food noise aspect has completely just really changed my life and I can't imagine going back to how I thought before." ([28:28])

She explains her strategy to transition to a maintenance dose, ensuring long-term sustainability without dependency.

• Fi: "I plan to be on a low dose of it, a maintenance small dose for as long as I can." ([30:19])

Mari commends Fi’s balanced approach, highlighting the importance of maintaining health without compromising well-being.

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4. Embracing New Hobbies and Healing the Inner Child

Fi shares her newfound passion for adult ballet classes in Austin, emphasizing how the discipline and focus required have contributed to her personal growth and emotional healing.

• Fi: "It's the first physical activity I think I've done in a long time that I'm not doing for aesthetics." ([34:10])

The conversation touches on the significance of engaging in activities that nurture the soul rather than merely serving superficial purposes. Both Mari and Fi reminisce about their past interests and how they are rediscovering joy through new pursuits.

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5. Reflecting on Past Experiences and Burnout

Mari and Fi reflect on their intense work history with Bloom, discussing the burnout that led to their move to Austin. They candidly talk about the challenges of maintaining a high-octane lifestyle and the relief of stepping back to focus on personal well-being.

• Mari: "We were riding a high for a while until we finally were like, so burnt out." ([47:20])
• Fi: "Moving to Austin, just like leaving LA and kind of leaving that go, go, go. We were like, wait a minute." ([48:08])

Fi draws parallels between her current real estate endeavors and the skills she honed at Bloom, recognizing the resilience and work ethic developed during intense periods of growth.

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6. Spirituality, Mindfulness, and Letting Go

The dialogue shifts towards spiritual practices, with both Mari and Fi discussing the role of prayer and gratitude in their lives. They share how these practices help manage stress, foster community, and cultivate a sense of control over their circumstances.

• Mari: "It's like a community. It's positive. I feel like I'm letting go control." ([51:20])
• Fi: "Every night when I'm in bed, I don't pray to anyone, but I kind of say something to myself." ([52:50])

This segment underscores the importance of finding inner peace and strength through mindful practices, especially during challenging times.

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7. Balancing Social Life and Personal Energy

Fi discusses her shift towards more selective social activities, favoring low-energy engagements like cycling or walking with friends over high-energy outings. This change reflects her commitment to conserving energy and prioritizing well-being.

• Fi: "It's kind of like exercise. Like we're cycling and getting coffee or we're going on a walk on the lake and getting coffee." ([51:26])

Mari and Fi celebrate their deepening friendship, appreciating the safe space they provide for each other amidst their individual transformations.

• Mari: "When I'm with you, I can genuinely just be a girl." ([39:03])

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8. Embracing Change and Future Aspirations

As the episode nears its end, Mari and Fi acknowledge the continuous evolution of their lives. They express gratitude for past experiences while looking forward to future endeavors with optimism and determination.

• Fi: "Time at Bloom definitely taught me work ethic and that I am capable of a lot more than I think I am." ([48:46])

Mari reflects on their shared journey, emphasizing the importance of growth and the courage to embrace new paths.

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Notable Quotes

• Fi on feeling like life is on pause during IVF:
  "It feels like your entire life is on pause because you're living in this countdown." ([01:03])

• Fi on the impact of semaglutide (Ozempic):
  "The mental aspect and the food noise aspect has completely just really changed my life and I can't imagine going back to how I thought before." ([28:28])

• Fi on avoiding anxiety-inducing relationships:
  "I need someone who gets it and has been there." ([25:29])

• Mari on letting go of control through prayer:
  "It's like a community. It's positive. I feel like I'm letting go control." ([51:20])

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Concluding Insights

This episode of Pursuit of Wellness masterfully intertwines personal anecdotes with profound reflections on growth, resilience, and self-discovery. Mari and Fi's open-hearted conversation provides valuable insights into balancing career ambitions, personal health, and meaningful relationships. Their journey serves as an inspiration for listeners striving to transform into their best selves through honest dialogue and continuous self-improvement.

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For more inspiring conversations and wellness tips, tune in to Pursuit of Wellness and embark on your own journey towards optimal living.

Transcript

[A]

This is the Pursuit of Wellness podcast and I'm your host, Mari Llewellyn. Queens, welcome back to a girl chat episode. Fee.

[B]

I'm back. It's been like two months.

[A]

I'm sorry.

[B]

We were catching up before.

[A]

Yeah, we were. Lots of tea was spilled.

[B]

Lots of tea.

[A]

Off the mic.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I mean, yeah. There's actually some things I can't tell you guys. Believe it or not, like in the last episode, I literally told them how I shat myself.

[B]

That'll happen.

[A]

It's really nice to have you back. I've been really lonely. I was just. I was telling Fi. I have. And I actually haven't even told them this. I've canceled like a lot of my guest interviews coming up just to be for real and not because any of them were like, they were all amazing. And it was really hard to do actually, because I was like, I really do want to talk to these people, but I've just been in a headspace where I can't, I can't. You know, Carson, my friend who did ivf, she put it really well to me yesterday. It feels like your entire life is on pause. Cuz you're living in this, like, countdown.

[B]

Yeah. There's just dates of everything and like all the medicine every day. I'm sure you feel like crap.

[A]

It's like I. I never ending. Like even now, leading up to the embryo transfer, I thought I was this. I thought I was close. I can't focus on anything else.

[B]

Like it's consuming me because it's such an intense process. You, like, can't think of anything else, you know? No, like everything that I don't care.

[A]

Like, I'm, I'm so happy you're here and I care about your updates, but like to, to prep and research someone and talk about like candles and artificial.

[B]

Whatever, and it's not even like, rude. You're just like, I literally can't. I just can't fit it in my head. Yeah.

[A]

But anyway, where do we even begin?

[B]

I know lot's been going on.

[A]

I mean, I saw you, what, like a week ago?

[B]

Yeah. What did we do? We got breakfast.

[A]

We got breakfast. Where do you want to start? Should we talk career, personal? Do you still live in Austin? Like, that's been such a big question. Like, what's the update?

[B]

Okay, so, yes, I am still in Austin. I have been kind of like head down studying the last. Literally, I. I realized since like Christmas and the holidays and stuff, I like literally have hardly been on social or doing anything. I've been Studying. I'm getting my real estate license.

[A]

An academic queen.

[B]

Yes. It's actually a lot of work. Texas is 180 hours of coursework to learn, and then there's two exams at the end. Actually, maybe more than that, maybe three exams. But I've been taking all the courses, and I've done four out of the six course tests, and I do, like, one a week, and pretty much every day I just study for, like, five hours.

[A]

What's the next pole of something you're learning?

[B]

Okay, so the last course I did was all about real estate finance, so it was all about mortgages. And, God, it's funny, because I was learning all about, like, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. And, like, my mom worked at Fannie Mae for 35 years, and I quite literally never knew. I mean, she worked in, like, the creative graphic art department, but I had no idea what Fannie Mae did for, like, my entire life. And now I know.

[A]

So wait, what is Fannie Mae?

[B]

It's a mortgage company. What's a secondary mortgage company, and they buy loans and sell them.

[A]

This entire time that I knew your mom worked at Fannie Mae, I thought it was a makeup company. Entire time.

[B]

Really?

[A]

Yeah. You know those, like.

[B]

Sounds like. Yes.

[A]

Pyramid scheme makeup companies.

[B]

Like, Kathy worked at a pyramid scheme. I know what you're thinking of. She actually did do one of those for, like, a week, and she absolutely hated it.

[A]

Oh, my God. I can't believe I thought that.

[B]

Yeah, it's a mortgage. Secondary mortgage.

[A]

So have you passed the test yet?

[B]

So I've taken. So Every course is 30 hours long.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

So I pretty much study Monday through Sunday, like, five hours a day.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

Yeah. So six days a week. Five hours a day. Like, after this, I'm gonna go study all the rest of the day, and then at the end of the week, I take a test. It's, like, 60 questions. It's, like, on video. I'm being proctored. So, like, there's someone on the other end watching me take it. It's, like, very intense. I didn't think it was gonna be that intense, but, um. Yeah, so I've done. I've passed all four. Four of the six. So I have two more.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

And then I'm gonna take a little break when I go on a little trip, and then I'm gonna come back and go take my finals. So I'm hoping to be licensed by the end of February, if not first week of March is my goal.

[A]

So exciting, dude.

[B]

And then I've Already found a brokerage and a team that I'm gonna join. I'm actually going tomorrow to meet the whole team and start, like, kind of shadowing them and getting to know everybody. So it's really exciting.

[A]

Will you, like, bop around to different houses?

[B]

I'm sure at the beginning I'll probably, like, go to open houses and, like, listings with them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Until I'm licensed, like, I cannot do anything really besides just, like, shadow and, like, watch them. But, like, that's what I'm excited to do. Like, and I really want to. As much as I'm learning from, like, all the courses and stuff, I think being there and watching someone and, like, really, like, hands on is like, how I learn best.

[A]

So I feel like it's such a cool time to join Austin Real Estate because everyone's moving from LA right now. Like, a lot of people.

[B]

Yeah, it's a great market to be in and it's just completely new.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, it truly. I will say.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

As much as, like, I'm in a very. I'm feeling very optimistic today. It comes in waves. Like, there are some days where I'm like, what the fuck am I doing? Like, because it's just, like, entirely new and it's scary and yeah, it's like, it's just something completely new that I knew nothing about until a couple weeks ago when I started studying. So it's really intimidating to try something completely new and out of your comfort zone. But also I'm like, what do I have to lose?

[A]

I think it's like such a great.

[B]

Challenge and it's cool.

[A]

So I think it's so cool. And if you think about your work history, I mean, you were with me and then before that you were with a celebrity and, like, always assisting. And what I think is really cool about this is once you have your license, once you're out there doing your thing, you're like your own boss. Right.

[B]

I'm definitely looking forward to that and just having a little more, like, flexibility in my day and being able to go on trips or just like, own my life a little more, which no shade to you, but when you're an assistant, anyone who's any kind of. Kind of a personal assistant or executive assistant, like, you get it. Like your principal, as a lot of people call it, like their life is kind of your life. That's just the way it is. Like, that's how in tune. If you are a good assistant, totally. Your life's. Their life's your life. So I think it was like the.

[A]

Right time for you to do this. Just, like, how everything played out.

[B]

Yeah, that too. Just between, like, all the changes that happened at once, it's, like, definitely a lot, but it feels like a really fresh start. And, like, yeah, I feel very good going into this year.

[A]

Yeah. Your 2025 is, like, a full 360.

[B]

It's funny, we just had, like. My phone reminded me of, like, our move, like, what, a week ago? A year. A year ago.

[A]

We moved almost a year ago, right?

[B]

Over a year ago. It was January 22nd, I think.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah, we moved that and remember. Yeah. I got all these reminders on my phone. So crazy, because I won't go into detail, but I was just in a completely different, like, time of my life during that. And it's just so wild. It's really exciting because I'm like, I can't imagine what 2026, January is going to be like. You know what I mean? Like, my life could look completely different then. I know it's exciting, but that's what I've been doing.

[A]

I'm proud of you. That's really cool.

[B]

It's been a lot of work. Like, it really has. I know a bunch of people have their license. Like, in other. They were all like, oh, it's like a breeze. And then I look it up and, like, Maryland's, like, 60 hours. Texas is 160. I'm like. So when I talk to people, they're like, yeah, it took me, like, a month. And then I look at stuff here, and they're like, oh, like, four to six months.

[A]

Like, but everyone I tell, like, people in my real life who are asking me, like, what's Fee doing now? When I say real estate, they're all like, oh, that makes so much sense.

[B]

Everyone that I've told is like, oh, you're gonna be so good at it. Like, I'm flattered. Like, thank you. But, like, it's definitely. Like, you're hard on yourself. Like, I'm like, am I?

[A]

Like, you have the right personality, the right vibe. Like, you make people feel secure, you know?

[B]

Yeah. I think that's all good. I think the part that's intimidating to me is, like, the actual, like, selling of it. Like, sales. Like, I am not scary. Yeah. Like, I know people that are very good at that. Not my five.

[A]

Like, a little more pushy.

[B]

Like, I'm not. Which is funny. I've been watching, like, all the real estate shows. That's like, my. That's what I do at night. So I study during the day, and Then at night I watch like, selling Sunset and like, owning Manhattan.

[A]

Get yourself hyped up selling the city.

[B]

No, it really does, except it's like very drama. Lots of drama. But, like, even on there, like, they're so convincing in the way, like when they're like showing like a buyer a listing, they're like, just so convincing. They're like, oh, well, you're never gonna find, like, you know, 16 foot ceilings in this zip code for under X, Y and Z. And the buyer's like, yeah. And I'm like, I don't know if I can say that to someone. I'd be like, if you don't want it, like, no pressure.

[A]

But no, you're going to have to get a little hard.

[B]

I'm going to find. I'll find a happy medium.

[A]

But yeah, I'm so proud of you.

[B]

I've been doing.

[A]

Do you want me to give you an update on my job?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Like, should I give an update?

[B]

Sure, yeah. What's your job? What's happening?

[A]

Podcast. Is podcasting. A lot of solos, a lot of girl chats. I'm kind of evolving out of the pure interview style. Although I have a really cool guest coming that, I mean, I don't even know how to put into words how.

[B]

Crazy is like, not a normal pal guest.

[A]

Not at all. It's more in the celebrity realm.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I would also say she is in the most talked about news story probably of 2024 and 2025. So I'm just going to leave it at that. But Fee was a huge part of me getting connected. It's a crazy story that we will probably divulge in our next girl chat. Yeah, but it's crazy. I am working less than I've ever worked in my life in my adult career. And you know how crazy we used to work, like, non stop. Now I'm in the office once, maybe twice a week. I mean, as I just said with ivf, I can't really focus on it the way I used to. I'm actually going on a Colorado trip this week for 10 days.

[B]

It's going to be lovely.

[A]

I know. I was a bit worried I wouldn't be able to go because I had to go to the doctor and get my embryo transfer plan. I thought he was going to be like, no, you need to be here for appointments. But it's actually like my only last little break window. And then I get back and I start pills, patches, suppositories and injections.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

That's a lot.

[A]

I know. It feels like I'm so close, but so far at the same time, you know?

[B]

Why do you have to use suppositories?

[A]

It's estrogen, and I have to put it up my vag, so. Interesting, right? Like, I am a full blown science experiment. They were like, you can come in and we'll draw with Sharpies on your butt to show your husband where to put the shots in. And I'm like, I'm literally a science experiment. Like, I'm an animal.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

I know. I was low key, like, a little. I wanted the embryo to be able to be put in sooner than it is. I'm not saying when because I don't want people to like, but, yeah, I still have to wait. But it's okay. Colorado is my last hurrah.

[B]

That'll be nice, though.

[A]

I know. And Greg's joining me and whatever.

[B]

He's like, it's going the whole time.

[A]

He's gonna join me in Aspen. Veil is girls trip. Aspen. Greg. Valentine's Day vibes.

[B]

Cute.

[A]

I kind of want to bring Arnold skiing.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I know. He would just love it. He needs some skis. Four skis.

[B]

I wish I knew how to ski.

[A]

Yeah, it's. It's funny.

[B]

I mean, I'm not a winter sports girl. I know I'm not a sports girl.

[A]

You might be if you tried it, though.

[B]

I tried it once and I, like, literally had the flu and it was, like, puking down the hill.

[A]

You should come visit me. You'll visit me this summer in Aspen, right?

[B]

Yes. But there's no snow then, right?

[A]

We're doing a whole month there. You guys, you.

[B]

Maybe I'll stick you up on that.

[A]

You should.

[B]

I definitely. I've never been. I've never been.

[A]

I know. We would have great time. Summer is honestly better there. It's, like, so wholesome. It's very baby friendly. The strollers everywhere.

[B]

Perfect.

[A]

I know. Not that either of us have babies, but. Okay. So you said you were going on a trip. I know what that means, but I.

[B]

Don'T want to share too much.

[A]

Oh, you're being demure.

[B]

I'm trying.

[A]

I get it.

[B]

Yeah. I'm gonna go visit a friend. A couple friends. I am visiting friends. My friend is there.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

My friend from college is there. I'm going to visit a friend in a few weeks from college.

[A]

No, that is absolutely not. That is such a lie. Like, I'm not sitting here and accepting that I am.

[B]

I have been dating. That's what I'm gonna say.

[A]

Like, multiple People or one I've been dating.

[B]

I don't want to talk about it yet.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. I don't want to get ahead of myself. It's fresh.

[A]

Yeah, it is fresh. I get that you want to keep it private.

[B]

Yeah. I feel like in my last relationship, I shared it a little too soon.

[A]

Yeah. But that probably wasn't the reason it didn't end up.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, there was a lot of stuff with that. No. But. Yeah, but I'm doing good with that, and I'm happy, and we'll see.

[A]

Okay, let's talk them more abstractly about, like, how you view dating and relationships, like, now. Like, meeting new people. What? Like, red flags, green flags, like, coming out of. I mean, because the last time they heard from you, it was, like, pretty recent.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

From your breakup. So.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, what has changed in the way you, like, go into the romantic world?

[B]

Good question. So I wanted to bring this up, actually, and we were talking about, before we hopped on the mics, the call her daddy, Matt James, Rachel kirkconnell interview.

[A]

I still have no idea who either of those people are.

[B]

Okay, so context. Matt James was on the Bachelor.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And Rachel was on his season, and she ended up winning. And they've been together ever since. It's been, like, four years.

[A]

Oh, I thought it was new.

[B]

No, it's been, like, four years. Yeah. Oh. But there was, like, a lot of drama, and I'm. I will say, like, I'm not a bachelor. Bachelorette, girly. But, like, I understand pop culture, and, like, I kind of stay up to date with that stuff, so I've always known, like, from that aspect. But they've been together, like, four years. At the beginning, there was, like, a couple. There was, like, a few different things that they, like, kind of broke up and then got back together. Whatever. They've been back together since. And a few weeks ago, or like, two weeks ago, maybe less, they were on a trip in, like, Tokyo. And then Matt James, out of nowhere, posted at, like, 6am I remember seeing it on my feed. I was like, what the heck? A breakup post. And it's like a photo of him and Rachel meeting on the Bachelor. Like, her getting out of the car, like, that scene and him just being, like. It was, like, a really weird caption with it and whatever, saying, like, we broke up. Yeah, basically. And, like, a very religious caption. Just saying, like, it was. It was very strange. Like, everyone thought he got hacked. Like, that's how strange it was.

[A]

Oh.

[B]

And then she just, like, didn't post anything, and like, address it at all. So all that being said, she went on call her daddy last week. I think the episode came out and it is crazy. So the reason I'm bringing this up, this girl, like, reiterating her experience through this relationship, literally, I felt so seen. I know a lot of women did. Like, I. It's like my whole TikTok now is like. Or was last week girls being like, I went through this just like such a similar power dynamic in a relationship. And very much one kind of narcissistic avoidant person versus a very anxiously attached person.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And it just showed, like, it was so weird her like, explaining her experience because I was like, oh my God. That is exactly, exactly what I went through. And it's funny, like, Tokyo is like her favorite place in the world. And like, they're on this vacation in Tokyo. And of course, like, that's where it happens because, like, in a lot of relationships where there tends to be like kind of a narcissist or something, like it's always on your birthday that they really kind of like struggle.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like, whenever. It's like, I don't want to go into too much detail, but like, it's quite literally exactly what I went through last year when I was in Italy on my birthday. And like you.

[A]

It's almost like when eyes are on you, that's when they're the most upset.

[B]

And. Oh God, I won't go into too much detail. You guys should watch it. That was really. You should watch it. It was really.

[A]

So the breakup post was like out of nowhere.

[B]

Like the reason they broke up. They were. She was looking for. He does food reviews. They do restaurant reviews together.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

And I guess like all day she had been like looking for a restaurant to do and she like, couldn't find a good one or something. And then she took him to one and they ended up getting in like a blow up fight about. Or something about this restaurant and her thinking it wasn't good enough and that he wasn't going to like it. And it made me. It was literally. It took me back to the day I was in the Amalfi coast and I was supposed to go on a boat for my birthday and the boat got canceled. And I had planned everything and I had felt all this responsibility for like making sure it went perfect and that like, he had a great experience. And like, literally I'm. And Bo got canceled and I'm standing on the, like by the dock, like, sobbing. And he was like, what is. Why are you acting so crazy? Like, what is this? And I, like, couldn't even put into words. And she said the same thing. She was like. They got in this fight over, like, a restaurant. He was like, you're being crazy. Like, this isn't that big of a deal. But she felt. She felt so much pressure on her to, like, pick the perfect thing for him. And it's because when you're so anxiously attached, you think something as simple as him hating the restaurant that you pick is, like, gonna be a reason he breaks up with you. And it was like. It was a bigger picture than that, but, like, it was.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like. And it really just, like, something clicked to me when I heard that. I was like, oh, my gosh. Like, it really. It's the silliest things like that. But, like, that's exactly what I went through, and it was just so crazy. But the reason I brought that all up is because since then, I have really, really tried to, like, work on, like, owning my own stuff, but also learning from that experience and not repeating that kind of behavior and not going for people with similar qualities to that.

[A]

Kind of person who, like, bring out the anxiety in you.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And someone who just, like, makes you feel like, I've talked about this for, like, makes you feel like you have to be perfect or they're gonna leave.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's, like, the worst feeling ever.

[A]

Right.

[B]

Which is on eggshells.

[A]

You're probably instinctually attracted to that because you're like, I want to prove to this person. Like, I. I do that too. I'm like, I want to show them that I'm perfect or whatever, but you're kind of, like, catching yourself in that habit and going the other direction.

[B]

It's, like, such a weird power dynamic. And I remember people were commenting, like, it's so weird. She, like, seemed almost like his assistant, like, picking these restaurants for him to make content at. And, like, it just was so. Oh, God. It really brought it back for me, and it was, like, really traumatizing. But it made me realize, like, how much I think I've already kind of grown from that.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And the fact that I can even see it now and acknowledge it is huge.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I just know if I ever start to get that kind of gut feeling again, like, this feels familiar. Like, shut it down. Yeah.

[A]

You're.

[B]

It's not right for me.

[A]

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[B]

Yeah, I don't know.

[A]

It's. It's almost like roles have reversed a little bit in society lately where women are like, providing all of these things.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like a lot of pressure.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I feel like I'm also seeing it through a lens of what I'm going through right now. And I'm like, I don't understand how women are expected to continue to show up at the workplace, take care of kids. Like, I mean, if this is my experience with ivf, imagine, like, pregnancy and like, even trying for a baby is all consuming. Like, all these things we have to go through and then provide for our partners at the same time. It's just like a wild experience.

[B]

It's a lot. A lot is expected of women. There's a lot of pressure. There's a lot of pressure.

[A]

Like, why do we have to be so perfect?

[B]

I think we inflict a lot of it on ourselves, though. I really do.

[A]

Yeah, I do, too.

[B]

I mean, there's a lot of societal pressure. There is a lot of pressure from your partner. But I also think just as women, we do it even over to ourselves.

[A]

And it's probably generational. Right. Because we watch our mums do it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Or like, we're told we're supposed to act that way, but Yeah. A lot of it's on ourselves as well. Well, the anxiety being so I'm so hard on myself. That's been such a big realization I've had through ivf. I have zero compassion for myself.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And so much for other people.

[B]

Yeah. Like what I always say, like, if you would imagine talking to your friend the way you talk to yourself.

[A]

No, I, like, oh, my God, I would have no friends.

[B]

Yeah. Like, it'd be awful. Right? You would never. So I try to remind myself that. And yeah, just I think I've learned. I've been listening to the Mel Robbins Let Them book.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So good. I know you've been reading it too.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I don't know if you finished.

[A]

I kind of stopped, but I gotta audio the audible.

[B]

I know I will because I like walking and listening. And it's her. It's her.

[A]

And she has the best voice.

[B]

Yeah. No, it's amazing. It's like mom just, like, giving me advice. But that too, I think, really just like learning the let them theory. And also, like, you can't change people. I've noticed that too. And. And I. I will take full responsibility. Like, my last relationship, I definitely tried to change my ex boyfriend a million times. Oh, my God. Everything he did would piss me off. And I had a comment about it.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And finally I was like, okay, Fiona. Instead of, like, trying to Mold someone into. You want to be. Maybe, like, take a step back and the next time you date, try to, like, find someone that you actually like. Yeah, yeah. That sounds so awful. And, like, no one's perfect. But you cannot change someone. And I'm sorry, if they start to change for you, they will hold it against you, because I went through that, too.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And then that's true. Then it's like, double over because they've, like, kind of changed, but then they, like, blame you because they don't like who they've become with you, and they.

[A]

Use it as, like, yeah, that's so true.

[B]

And it's. And people like the Molly May. Tommy Molly Mae documentary wasn't his documentary. But even that she stuck around for so long and tried to make it work and tried to make it work and tried to make them change, and you can't. You really can't. So I think I've learned that too. Like, you can't change people. And instead of just trying to meet someone and, like, morph them into who I want them to be, like, I need to try to find someone that we align a lot more just naturally.

[A]

I know you don't want to go in detail, but, like, meeting someone you really like.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

How do you know that your boxes are being checked? And then how do you know what to let go of? Like, because no one's perfect. Right. Like, I remember the first conversation we had about, like, people you were dating, and they were like, we were talking about, like, different things. And then there was this one thing that we were like, is that bad? Is that good? Like, how do you know what to, like, let go of?

[B]

For everyone, it's different. I think just, like, the way you were, your upbringing and, like, kind of the traumas you have and the stuff, I think that is huge. I need someone that has gone through some kind of, like, had a similar upbringing to me, in a way. My parents are divorced. I witnessed that from a young age. You know, they're friendly now and stuff, but, like, it. That shaped a lot of my childhood and a lot of the way I see the world. And, like, I think having that in common with someone, I realized I. All of my exes all had, like, the perfect family dynamic. And it was so. Not that any family's perfect, but, like, they had a. You know, their parents were together. And I always lean towards these relationships because to me, it was what I didn't have growing up. And I was like, oh, they have the family and the cousins, and they all love each other. And all this stuff, and it, like, drew me in because it was not what I had.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I thought that's what I wanted, but then unfortunately, like, once, you know, the relationship got real and, like, we had conflict and stuff, I would be like, you can't see how, like, the angle I'm coming from. And. And they couldn't. And I couldn't see the angle they coming from. And I realized, like, that is a big thing for me. Like, I need someone who gets it and has been there. So that's one thing. I think, like, getting to know someone also. I mean, I'm 29 now, but, like, I'm at the age now. Like, when I'm on a date, we don't need to, like, trauma dump, but we need to be, like, honest and real from the beginning. And, like, I'm done trying to just, like, be perfect and impress you. Like, I want to talk, like, what is your family dynamic? Like. Like, I need to know that stuff because I realize how. How important it is to me in a way, or just, like I said, like, how it really shapes you.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I think that's one big thing.

[A]

I like that. Just asking upfront questions.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah, I think that's really important.

[A]

Are you also being, like, my goal in life is to be married and have kids.

[B]

Yeah. I think kind of going along with that. I think that's super important to be upfront about. I mean, you know, my ex, like, we had a very fun kind of relationship from the beginning. It was going out and, like, we party a lot, and, like, we were young, and it wasn't, like, we weren't in that period yet. And, like, I don't think we ever really even had those serious conversations. It kind of just was like, we're together and, like, so we're gonna get married, Right? And we never really had those, like, what do you want? It was kind of just like, well, we're both doing this, right? And, like, now I'm like, oh, no. I need to, like, sit down and be like, you want this, right? Like, is this a goal of you? Because it's. It's not for everyone. You know what I mean? And that's fine, too. But, like, it is for me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So I think that's really important. General manners. I think finding someone who is empathetic is, like, huge to me. I am very empathetic, and I think I realized in the past, like, I fill up other people's cups, and, like, I need someone that's going to be helping fill up my cup. Too.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

So empathy is huge. Yeah. Just, like, traits like that.

[A]

Yeah. And also on the family front, what I've realized, too, is I think I've always put a lot of emphasis on wanting, like, a beautiful, close family, because I didn't have that.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I think what I've realized is we get to build that ourselves, and we're just not there yet. Like, we're so close, but when we have kids, we get to kind of create the family we always wanted.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

You know, like, I feel like so often I feel disappointed. You know, you and I have shared that over the years. Like, disappointed in the way that things go at, like, holidays or feeling like people didn't show up for me a certain way or whatever it is. And I'm like, dude, you get to do that for your kids and create this, like, beautiful family unit that you've always wanted. And that's, like, very motivating to me. And you get to do it with the partner that you choose.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Which is really cool.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

So you're not in a relationship?

[B]

No, I'm not in a relationship.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

No, no, no.

[A]

I thought maybe you would be. No, I wasn't sure.

[B]

No.

[A]

Should we answer some questions?

[B]

Sure.

[A]

Is FEE still taking semaglutide or just maintaining? Now she looks fab.

[B]

Oh, thank you. I am still on it. I actually recently switched providers that I was with because the one I was with, which I really liked from the beginning, they're like a local Austin one. It was just, like, getting expensive. It was pretty expensive to begin with, but it was legit and it was local, and I liked the program they had. And so I was like, look, I was really scared, honestly, when I first started it. And I was like, I want something legit, and I want to talk to a doctor whenever I have questions and stuff. So I signed up with a program here, and I was with them the last, I guess, like, six or eight months, nine months that I did it, but it was pretty expensive. And so I kind of asked around to some friends I knew that were on it, and they recommended another program. So I recently started with them, and it's been good. It's a little bit cheaper, a little more manageable, but, like, still legit. I have been lowering my dose, and so the goal for me is I would like to stay on a maintenance dose of some sort. Maybe, like, instead of every week doing it, it's like, every other week. And it's like, a low dose, but for me personally, it just, like the mental aspect and the Food noise aspect has completely just really changed my life and I can't imagine going back to how I thought before. And so, yeah, I know that's not the answer everyone wants to hear. And I know right when people start it, they're like, well, what happens when you go off of it? I plan to be on a low dose of it, a maintenance small dose for as long as I can, probably until I get pregnant one day or until I'm trying. And that's me personally. And I know people have their own feelings about it, but I know what feels good and I know what works for me. And, yeah, so I am still on it.

[A]

Yeah, I think that sounds like a good method.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, but I'm not actively, like, trying. Like, I will say, like, I've lost. Lost kind of the weight I was looking to lose. I'm in a good place now. Like, I also. I get a lot of questions. I get DMS about this a lot. Like, I will say at the beginning, there were months where I really couldn't work out. I have had very little appetite. Like, I will say that I probably didn't do it the healthiest way at the beginning, but now that my body has, like, really adjusted to it, like, I eat very normally, I eat smaller portions, but, like, I eat very normally, I work out, I lift again. Like, I've been. I have the energy back that, like, I feel normal again. So I'm like, to me, I'm healthy, everything's good. Yeah, I'm not binging. Like, I think that was an unhealthy habit that I was doing before. You know, I'm not bingeing. I'm not. The food noise isn't, like, out of control. So, yeah, I'll probably stay on it.

[A]

Sounds like you're going about it the.

[B]

Right way long term. Yeah.

[A]

When I was, like, pulling old photos of us for the Q and A and I was going back, it's just so crazy.

[B]

I have this crazy photo. Wait, can I show this?

[A]

Yeah. Like, I was pulling from your birthday in Laguna and I was like, oh, my God, she looks completely different.

[B]

Yes. And, like, I never want to shame anyone or even myself. Like, look at this was exactly a year apart. Like, to the day, in the same outfit.

[A]

Let me see.

[B]

That was me at training Mate in January. It's actually a crazy photo.

[A]

Really different to me.

[B]

Like, I just look so much less inflamed. Like, even my face. Like, I've never been like, diagnosed with PCOS or anything. Like, I know a ton of girls on pcos. Take it and like, have found. But like, I look at photos of my face and like, I was just so round and puffy. Like, I really was so puffy and inflamed all the time. And I was doing the workouts and I was eating clean and I really was doing everything and it just.

[A]

Dr. Tina was saying how it's so good for your gut health.

[B]

That too. I always had crazy gut issues and like in bat, like, oh. Just really. And like, since being on it, I feel so much better. So. Yeah, I definitely lost some weight, but I feel good and I feel honestly the most confident I felt in a long time, especially after kind of like the last few months I had had, like, I'm single and like, I want to feel good and I do.

[A]

I feel like you're going about it in such a healthy way.

[B]

Thank you. Oh, I like your little L necklace.

[A]

I changed my name legally.

[B]

You did?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, my gosh.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Congrats.

[A]

Llewellyn Laveck here.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

I know. I got rid of my middle name. Yeah. I mean, it's still in the judge's hands, but it's underway. But now I put lovakia on everything.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Funny. Yeah, I just wanted to do it.

[B]

That's cute.

[A]

That's ready. And I like, am attached to my last name, but I was kind of like, well, I'll just make it my middle name.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But like, I want to have his last name, you know?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Are you staying in Austin? I feel like we answered that.

[B]

I just signed my lease for another year because I'm joining that real estate team here. I'm definitely at least going to be here another year.

[A]

Oh, how are you liking ballet? They want to. This person wants to stop.

[B]

So. Yeah, that was like really, really random of me. One day last year I was like, I need a hobby. And so I looked up adult ballet and there's a place called Ballet Austin downtown. It's like right near my house. And yeah, it's a six week program. Like beginner, beginner adult ballet classes once a week, every Wednesday evening. And it's been good. I've done three classes. I have three more and I really like it. I'll probably keep doing. Just to be honest. It's funny the way that you used to talk about riding horseback riding. It's like time that you can't be on your phone and you really have to be like, as much as it's physical, it's so mental. You really have to be there. You have to know what you're doing. And ballet is the same way. Like when they're teaching the combinations, like, it makes me realize how, like, focused I am.

[A]

It's hard to memorize. Right?

[B]

Yeah, yeah. And it just. And just like learning all the new terminology and just. I also like it because it's an act, a physical activity, but it's like the first physical activity I think I've done in a long time that I'm not doing for aesthetics. Yes. Like, to. To exercise. Like, I genuinely am doing it because it feels nice and like. Like it's like you're learning a new skill. Yeah. So I really like it. I highly recommend. It's like I said, it's a six week program, so I'll probably continue it. But it's all like. It's all women in my class, like, around my age. There was this girl next to me. She had a really cute little leotard on. And I started chatting with her and she was like, how old are you? I was like, I'm 29. She was like, what? And I was like, how old are you? She's like, I'm 21. I was like, oh, my God. She was like, I thought you were my age. And I was like, oh, okay.

[A]

Sorry. That I'm not questionable. She's like.

[B]

I was like, I'm almost. I'm turning 30s here. She was like, no way. And she's like, you do not look 30. Which I was like, is that good? Thank you. But also she was like, I thought you were my age. And then I was like, is everyone in here, like, 21? It was really funny, but I was like, thank you.

[A]

No, they can't all be 21.

[B]

It was like, there's definitely like, girls my age, like mid to upper 20s. It's just so funny though, because the whole class, I'm like, so everyone here, like, end of last year was like, I need a hobby. Like, I have no passion.

[A]

We're all going through a mental breakdown.

[B]

But it is really funny because it's just like adults all dressed in like, leotards and like tights.

[A]

So cute.

[B]

And you feel very, like. I can't describe it.

[A]

Childlike?

[B]

Yeah, like very childlike. Like you're all in your little tights and your little, like, ballet. It's like, kind of goofy.

[A]

But are you going to have a recital that I can come?

[B]

They haven't said anything. But, like, honestly, it's funny. I was actually catching up with my dad last night and he was asking me about it and he was like, like, so funny. Because you grew up doing ballet. He goes, but every recital, you would cry and I wouldn't go. I hated recitals growing up.

[A]

I could see that for you.

[B]

I did not like everyone looking at me.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I did not like the attention. So, like, honestly, if there is a recital, I will probably do it. You should. I feel like that would be good for me.

[A]

For your inner child.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's funny you say that. I would hate them, too. I did them anyway, but I hated them.

[B]

Yeah. It's like something I can't even describe. It's like the. It's.

[A]

It's.

[B]

It's like almost. It's like social anxiety. I don't know. It's something like being scary that. Yeah. So. But I would do it. Like, I was thinking if I, like, kept it up, if I keep this up through the year, like, should I, like, do a little nutcracker cameo? Like, I honestly might. I think it'd be fun.

[A]

I'll come. I'll be, like, with flowers at the end.

[B]

Me with, like, a bunch of toddlers.

[A]

It's like my whole show that I did, I guess. Remember? And I got my ribbons and I was like, okay, I'm never gonna do that again. But I was so fun.

[B]

Yeah, I think I would. So it's been good.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Definitely healing my inner child.

[A]

I love that for you. I'm so excited.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

That's so cute. I mean, I feel the exact same way about horse riding.

[B]

How's your western riding going?

[A]

It's good.

[B]

How's Red?

[A]

He's great. I. It's been hard for me to get out there recently. I just don't. I don't know what it is. I think I'm in, like, protection mode a little bit. But I went a couple days ago and I rode Golden Boy. Golden Boy is like the old Barbie looking horse. The Barbie horse at the barn. But he is so slow and gentle, and I've never seen him do anything wrong that I just feel really comfortable getting on him. And, like, Red is an amazing horse. He's not a beginner horse. Like, you have to be paying attention. And, like, he spooks sometimes and, yeah, things happen with him. So. Love him to death. I'm gonna actually ride him Wednesday, and writing still brings me so much joy, but, like. Like, it's three hours out of my day.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And, yeah, I'm just mentally kind of struggling to, like, put, you know, me. And my therapist said she likes to use the. The metaphor of spoons. Let's say you have 10 spoons in your day, you have to decide where you put those spoons. Like, how many spoons do you want to give to your studying? How many do you want to give to your friends? How many do you want to give to ballet? Whatever. For me, I feel like my spoons have been, like, cut in half.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I'm like, my bandwidth is way shorter.

[B]

Yeah. So, like, gotta be a little more.

[A]

Selective where you put yourself, kind of. Yeah. And I'm. And I feel really guilty about it, but I'm, like, struggling a little bit with the writing. But I'm like, as long as I go once a week and I'm still loving it. And also, you know me, I have a hard time not, like, putting pressure on myself to, like, be amazing.

[B]

I know you're very, like, all in. Yes or not. So I. I see that.

[A]

So I'm like, if I'm not, like, competing and flying around barrels, I'm like, why are you even going? And I need to get out of.

[B]

That to be like that. No.

[A]

I could just be vibing.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And I. Did you see me writing him the other day?

[B]

I did.

[A]

I was having a lot of fun. I was like, good. So it's good. A lot of people are asking us about our friendship now that we don't work together. And I think that's a great question, and I have an answer.

[B]

I'll let you go first.

[A]

Should I go first?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I love it.

[B]

It is nice.

[A]

I like it a lot more.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I. Seriously, I've actually been wanting to say this to you on our coffee dates, but I just was like, that's weird for you to say. I feel so much more relaxed.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Now. And I feel like when I'm with you, I can genuinely just be a girl.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, I'm like, oh, my God. I can literally just talk to her about dating and, like, tell her my updates. And I don't have to be like, oh, but we have this thing going on. And, oh, we have to do this. And, oh, I have to talk to her about this. Like, I feel like I can just, like, chill. If you're anything like me, you need to have comfortable underwear options. I am not an underwear fan. And I need things that blend in, feel smooth and comfortable, and I don't even notice. And that's why I always grab for my skims. It's at the top of my drawer. I literally only wear skims, underwear and bras, and I'm absolutely obsessed. I personally love the fits. Everybody triangle bralette. It is perfect under a T shirt. You don't even notice it. I have the perfect nude color and it just I love the way it looks. It's so flattering and lifting but so freaking comfortable at the same time. I also love the scoop bralette. It just depends on the look I'm going for that day. And then I also have the cheeky briefs, the high waisted thong depending on the look I'm going for. I've even worn see through dresses with the cheeky brief underneath and it's such a good look. Shop Skims Best Intimates including the Fits Everybody collection and [e-mail] and Skims stores. After you place an order, be sure to let them know we sent you select podcast in the survey and be sure to select our show in the drop down menu that follows. And if you're looking for the perfect gift for your Valentine or for yourself, Skims just launched their best Valentine's shop ever available in sizes for women, men and kids. You guys know me, I drink so much water and I'm so concerned with the purity and health of that water. I don't think many people realize but three out of four homes in America have harmful contaminants in its tap water, according to the Environmental Working Group. Who knew we had to worry about things like that, but thank goodness we have Aqua True. Aqua True purifies using a four stage reverse osmosis purification process and their countertop purifiers work with no installation or plumbing. It removes 15 times more contaminants than ordinary pitch filters and are specifically designed to combat chemicals like PFAS in your water supply. PFAS are found in almost 45% of US tap water and I'm grateful that Aquatrue is certified to remove these contaminants. They have water purifiers to fit every type of home from installation free countertop purifiers to higher capacity under the sink options. That's what Greg and I have and we absolutely love it. I also love the fact that I know my pets are getting the best water possible. We have two dogs and they are our absolute lives and I want to make sure they are as healthy as we are. Aqua True comes with a 30 day money back guarantee and even makes a great gift. Today my listeners receive 20 off any Aqua Shoe Purifier. Just go to Aquatrue.com that's a Q U a T r u dot com and enter code POW at checkout. That's 20 off any Aqua Tree Water Purifier when you go to Aquatrue.com and use promo code. Pow. Pow.

[B]

I think we both are just so, like, we were just saying, like, really hard on ourselves. Like, we were doing the absolute most. Oh. I literally think back to, like last year and like, because, like, now I've just been like, January. I was home studying all month. Like, I really did not do much. And like, yeah, like, slept, you know, I would sleep in and go on my walk and just study all day and like, I was getting stuff done.

[A]

But I sleep in now too.

[B]

I know. So crazy. Like, what I was thinking about Valentine's Day last year. We were flying to London for the bloom and I was just like, holy shit. Like, photo shoot, meet and greet, Mount oh, my God.

[A]

And we had literally just moved to Austin, Texas, and we were like, I know, let's get on a plane to.

[B]

London and we went to LA right around. Like, we were so intense and everything. I think we both just, like, wanted to be the best and do the most. And if, like, our calendar was not filled to the brim every day, it was like we weren't doing enough.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And oh my gosh, we were both.

[A]

Full blown masculine era. Yeah. Like, full blown.

[B]

And it was just. It was a lot. It was a lot.

[A]

I have a memory of London, us sitting in a cafe after the event.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And just like full dissociated ears ringing. Like, remember, I would just, like cry sometimes because I was so overwhelmed. I don't think people realize this. Like, yes, Greg is my business partner and, like, was by my side for a lot of this. But, like, Greg is a man.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And at the end of the day, men have limits.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And boundaries.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Women are just like. Like, I felt like I was on a rocket ship and I'm like, saying yes to everything. And even that event in London, like, I mean, how many girls was that? 300 girls. Whatever. Like Strat. You couldn't even see the end of the line. I'm freaking the out. I'm nervous. But I just did it anyway. That was the thing. It was like, do it anyway. Do it anyway. Do it anyway. And I'm meeting all these people. They all want to talk. Talk to you too, because you, like, were by my side for literally everything. And keep in mind when I'm doing this meet and greet, like, it's scary. I'm just a girl. Like, I'm just a human being.

[B]

Well, also, a lot of it's, like, very emotional. It's a lot of emotion. A lot of girls coming and, like, crying. Yeah. Saying these crazy Stories. It's. It's beautiful and it's amazing, but it is so taxing.

[A]

It's so intense.

[B]

Did you see it in the Molly Mae documentary when she had her.

[A]

Did that literally. Did that not. Did that not trigger you Say.

[B]

I don't know if I want to say it triggered me, but holy shit. Like, I was like, I know it was so. And, like, not that you weren't so grateful for every person that ever came. And it was, like, it was always such a cool experience and opportunity, but when she, like, goes behind the curtain and is, like, literally having a mental breakdown because she's like, I can't take a picture and say hi to everyone, but I feel like I have to because everyone came to see me and she's, like, having a mental breakdown. I was like, oh, my. It was like a flashback.

[A]

It was you and me. Like, you comforting me, me crying.

[B]

Like, it was a lot.

[A]

I was thinking about the bodega event. Like, us getting out of the Uber.

[B]

Like, yeah, it was a lot.

[A]

This probably sounds so crazy, but when you're in it, it is the weirdest feeling.

[B]

And, like, you don't want to let anyone down.

[A]

No.

[B]

And again, I think you and I are both very, like, empathetic and both really.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I'm not trying to. Not trying to drag you, Greg, but, like, to Greg, he's just, like, it's fine. Like, you can't get to meet everyone. Like, that's just the way it is. Like, you're doing a great job. Like, just have fun. And you're like, it is so much deeper than that. And, like, I am feeling. I think you and I both also, like, feel other people's emotions. You know what I mean? Like, that's a huge part of it, too. I think we both, like, take in other people's energy. So by the end of those events, it was, like, crazy. Holy.

[A]

And we did them all the time.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, I did so many of them.

[B]

It was a lot.

[A]

And I remember at the London event, you and me saying hi to everyone, like, whatever. I remember looking over and Greg and Leo were in the corner, like, doing absolutely nothing, like, on their phones. I was like, oh, yeah, they don't get it.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But even outside of that, like, I remember being at the Bloom, like, I was thinking about LA and how, like, I really had no friends outside of you. And I was like, of course not. Like, people would ask me to hang out, and I was always at the office, always busy.

[B]

We were very dependent on each other, and we were Very dependent, like on Bloom and our work dynamic.

[A]

Yeah, for sure.

[B]

It was our. It was our whole life. It really was.

[A]

So I remember my morning routine. 5am Wake up, roll out of bed, Gold's gym. Work out for an hour and a half, like a maniac. Go home, get to the office. Go, go. Like, literally buy the. Buy the 30 minute increment with something different.

[B]

Yep.

[A]

I'm exhausted thinking about it.

[B]

Seriously, it feels like another life. It really does.

[A]

I couldn't. I couldn't do it now.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, if you asked me to build Bloom again, I couldn't do it.

[B]

Yeah. Was a lot.

[A]

I don't know if I could do it the way that I did it.

[B]

I also just think, like, your young mid-20s, like, you have like a hustle in you and stuff that. Yeah, it's the same way. Like, I was catching up with some girlfriends the other day and we were all saying how, like, we literally don't go out or, like, do anything now on the weekends. And I'm like, I don't have it in me. You want me to go to a bar till, like at midnight on Friday?

[A]

So crazy.

[B]

Oh, my God, that sounds exhausting. And just like, not a place I want to be. And I think you just have this energy and like, fire in you at that age that you were just like.

[A]

I know you kind of.

[B]

It is like, you're like. It's a high.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

We were riding a high for a while until we finally were like, so burnt out.

[A]

I am burnt the out.

[B]

And I think. I honestly think that was a huge kind of factor that happened towards the end of last year that I think we both kind of. When we realized the dynamic, like, wasn't working anymore, I think we were both just so burnt out.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I think moving to Austin, just like leaving L. A and kind of leaving that like, go, go, go. That we had had there. We were like, wait a minute.

[A]

Got to come up with that.

[B]

Yeah. And we kind of realized that we had both been, like, drowning in work and stuff and so.

[A]

But also like, thank goodness. Like, I keep thinking to myself, thank goodness we did that then. Because now I'm in a position where. Yeah, I can stop for a minute if I need to.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because if. I mean, if Bloom wasn't where it's at, like, I wouldn't be able to.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's almost like it happened how it was supposed to.

[B]

Yeah. No, I mean, I'm so thankful for that time and.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

It's funny. Even going into the real estate stuff, it's very intimidating. And I'm like, God, like, I don't even know where to start. Like, if I, like, like, day one, I get a client or whatever. Like, I know nothing. And then I literally was like, fiona, you, like, built a podcast studio and, like, did audio and video.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And I learned all that, and I had no idea what I was doing exactly. Any of the stuff. When we would do the events, we would throw the events, we had no idea what we were doing at the beginning, but we learned. And so I'm like, okay, Fiona, if you could learn how to do all that, like, you can learn this. So I will say, like, time at Bloom, like, definitely taught me work ethic and that, like, I am capable of, like, a lot more than I think I am. I'm sure. Oh, my God, we did that too.

[A]

So much crazy.

[B]

So I'm like, okay, I got that in my back pockets.

[A]

It's confidence building for sure. Like, we know we can do it.

[B]

But it was crazy.

[A]

But it was so.

[B]

I was literally thinking back to that London trip, and I was like, that is crazy.

[A]

I know. To be honest, the team. I think the team is, like, navigating around me in this phase of my life because they're so used to me being available all the time, because I used to say yes to everything, and now I feel like I say no to, like, so much stuff because I'm trying to honor this. This moment that I'm in, and I keep waiting for myself to, like, wake up and be that me again, and it's not happening.

[B]

You go through just, like, different stages of life and the kind of person you are, and I think we, like, had that time.

[A]

I don't think I'm gonna be that way time soon again.

[B]

Grind time. I mean, you don't have to ever be that way again.

[A]

I know.

[B]

You know I loved the orange PR box.

[A]

Oh, I know.

[B]

That was sick.

[A]

So crazy.

[B]

So cool.

[A]

Yeah. People are loving Juicy Orange. Fee actually came in drinking a Juicy Orange. It' new favorite.

[B]

I tested Juicy Orange before I left.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

One of my favorite flavor flavors.

[A]

It's one of the more subtle ones. It's like, if you're looking for a morning energy drink, I would feel like it's the best morning one because it's not as intense. Yeah, it's, like, light and orangey.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. It's actually my favorite right now too. I had one yesterday. Austin girl trip. Rex. That's a good one.

[B]

I'm not good at this.

[A]

Okay, I'll help. God, actually, am I good?

[B]

At this.

[A]

No, I'm old. Like, all I do is go to Pecan Square in Jeffrey's.

[B]

I did have a girl DM me asking. She, like, I don't know if it was a bachelorette. She was saying she's like, we want to come in August. And I was like, it's gonna be really hot, and that's not a good idea. I was like, I don't know if, like, I was like, austin's really fun, but, I mean, one of my friends had a bachelor out here and we went on a boat. We went to a winery. And like, there was like, there's definitely a lot to do here.

[A]

There's so much to do for girls trips. Definitely a boat on the lake. Go to ski shores.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Go to Terry Blacks. Get some barbecue. Go shopping on South Congress. Go to Jacobus. Go to Clocks for dinner. Go to Swedish Hill for breakfast. I don't leave Tarrytown straight up. Like, I go like this. I literally live in a square.

[B]

Yeah. I'm trying to get better. Like I said, like, I, like, I really have been a hermit. I, like, haven't been going out at all, so.

[A]

I love that for you, though.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I feel like you do things.

[B]

I do. Honestly, when I do, it's funny. Like when I do stuff now with friends, it's like, it's. It's like some sort of exercise. Like we're cycling and getting coffee or we're going on a walk on the lake and getting coffee. Like, that's kind of like how I socialize now, which is fine.

[A]

We should walk soon, cuz it's nicer out now.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Finally, it's all about me praying.

[B]

Oh, yeah. How's that going?

[A]

It's good. I go to church every Sunday. I pray morning and night.

[B]

Wow.

[A]

Not. It's not coming from a place of, like, all of a sudden I'm religious. It's literally just like, I needed a practice and it's just helping.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, it's like a community. It's positive. I feel like I'm letting go control. I'm putting it in someone else's hands. Like, for someone like me. This is so excruciating.

[B]

Yeah. Like, it's excruciating against everything that you.

[A]

Oh, I'm dying. Like, I feel like I'm dying. Like, it's so crazy.

[B]

I know, dude.

[A]

You just said. We moved to Austin over a year ago. I feel like I've legit. I've. I've been trying to have a baby for two years now. @ this point.

[B]

Ish.

[A]

It feels like a long, long time. And I'm just like, dude, I'm ready. So when I pray, it's like I'm doing gratitude. I'm saying thank you. I'm saying, please help me get through this. Like, you know, I'm not religious and.

[B]

Like, I wasn't raised with any religion, but I. And I've been doing this for as long as I remember. Every night when I'm in bed, I don't pray to anyone, but, like, I kind of, like, say something every night.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In my head to myself.

[A]

That's cool.

[B]

I've always done that.

[A]

I think it's a good practice.

[B]

Yeah. And exactly what you were saying. Like, I say, like a gratitude thing or, like, if something's happening in the world or like something I'm going through or someone I know is going through something. Like, I always say a little something to myself. It's like almost how I fall asleep at night.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

I like, kind of like, think and like, say, that's cute. Yeah. I've done that forever.

[A]

Yeah. I find that my list gets very long, though, because I'm like, like, praying for. Oh, pray for them. Oh, and them. Oh, and them too. Oh, them also, like. And I always try to include someone that I low key, like, don't like. You know what I mean? Because I'm like, yeah, I want to, like, practice that too. Like, not just people I care about, like, people that I don't really with. Also, like, pray for them too.

[B]

January was an interesting month. Yeah, January was nuts.

[A]

Really long.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Really.

[B]

It was a long month. Yeah.

[A]

So you're getting your real estate license. Yeah, I'm getting an embryo implanted.

[B]

I know. I gotta ask you off the mic.

[A]

Yeah. And I. I thought I wanted to hear all about the trip coming up, but whatever. You'll tell me off.

[B]

Mike, I'm going to Arizona.

[A]

Yeah. That's not the info that we want, but we'll hear an update when you get back.

[B]

Going to see a friend and maybe a boy. A man.

[A]

There we go. Is he gonna listen to this?

[B]

I don't know. That's why I don't want to say anything.

[A]

Hey, I don't know, V. Thank you so much. We love you so much.

[B]

Oh, I love you too.

[A]

The girls were so excited.

[B]

I know. It's been a minute. I gotta come back more often.

[A]

I know. Next time, do you want to listen to voice messages?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

We'll bring that back. I haven't done that in a long time. But anyway, love you guys.

[B]

Love you by.

[A]

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