Parasites 101: Do You Have Them? How They Affect Us & How To Kill Them

Summary

Pursuit of Wellness: Parasites 101 with Kim Rogers

Episode Release Date: December 16, 2024

In this enlightening episode of Pursuit of Wellness, host Mari Llewellyn dives deep into the often-overlooked topic of parasites with renowned expert Kim Rogers, also known as the "Worm Queen." Rogers brings over 18 years of experience in Western medicine, shedding light on the prevalence, symptoms, and effective strategies to combat parasitic infections.

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Introduction to Parasites

Mari opens the discussion by highlighting the stealthy nature of parasites. She emphasizes their ability to remain undetected for decades, impacting various aspects of health.

Kim Rogers [00:00]: "They literally are stealthy, they're opportunist, and they will live in you for decades."

Rogers introduces herself as a wellness professional dedicated to educating the public about parasites, a topic rarely addressed in Western medicine.

Kim Rogers' Health Journey

Rogers shares her personal struggle with multiple health issues, including endometriosis and chronic Lyme disease, which led her to investigate parasitic infections.

Kim Rogers [03:09]: "I actually have two health care degrees, and I worked in western medicine since 2004... I was kind of circling the drain. I was swollen. I wasn't going to the bathroom. We didn't know what was wrong with me."

Her determination to find answers led her to explore natural remedies and eventually specialize in parasite cleansing, culminating in the creation of Rogers Hood Apothecary and the viral Parify parasite cleanse kit.

Understanding Parasites

Rogers explains that approximately 95% of people harbor parasites, which can reside not only in the gut but also in the blood, tissues, and muscles.

Kim Rogers [50:16]: "I believe it's about 95% of us have a parasite."

She categorizes common parasites, such as pinworms, liver flukes, and roundworms, discussing their symptoms and behaviors.

Symptoms of Parasitic Infections

Identifying parasitic infections can be challenging due to their subtle and diverse symptoms. Rogers outlines several key indicators:

• Teeth Grinding (Bruxism): Often mistaken for TMJ disorders, parasites can disrupt the lymphatic and nervous systems, leading to teeth grinding.

  Kim Rogers [08:52]: "Grinding the teeth... your nervous system is totally off balance and your body's trying to tell you something."

• Gut Issues: Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS) and other digestive problems are common due to parasites living in the gut.

• Skin Problems: Persistent skin issues, such as cystic acne or unexplained sores, can signal a parasitic presence.

  Kim Rogers [09:53]: "It's within the world of parasites because it's eating off of you... a parasite definition is, is living off the host."

Sources of Parasites

Rogers identifies several common sources of parasitic infections:

• Contaminated Water: Parasites like Cryptosporidium parvum can contaminate water sources, as Rogers discovered in her own water supply.

• Undercooked or Raw Food: Consumption of undercooked meat, especially pork and fish, exposes individuals to parasites like tapeworms and those found in sushi.

  Kim Rogers [27:28]: "And Pike Market... all fish have worms closer to the belly. Kite has more parasites than further up."

• Pets: Animals can be carriers of parasites such as Toxoplasma gondii from cats, leading to toxoplasmosis in humans.

  Kim Rogers [21:28]: "Only cats can give toxoplasmosis to humans this way."

• Environmental Exposure: Walking barefoot, contact with contaminated soil, and exposure to mold are additional risk factors.

Detection and Testing

Rogers emphasizes the importance of stool tests in identifying parasitic infections but notes the limitations within Western medical practices.

Kim Rogers [13:50]: "I believe that you should do at least one stool test to get an idea."

She highlights the inadequacies of standard laboratory procedures, where parasites often go undetected due to brief examination times and lack of specialized training.

Kim Rogers [16:07]: "No, they didn't catch it. And I do understand how labs work because I worked in training lab technicians, so I understand why they didn't catch it."

Rogers advocates for independent testing services like parasites.org, which offer more accurate results by focusing specifically on parasitic identification.

Effective Parasite Cleansing

Rogers introduces her Parify parasite cleanse kit, designed to guide individuals through a systematic cleanse three to four times a year. The kit includes a combination of herbs that target various parasites without relying on pharmaceuticals.

Kim Rogers [15:58]: "It's just helpful to get to a root cause of what could be going on."

Key components of the cleanse include:

• Wormwood and Oregon Grape Root: Bitters that disrupt parasites' feeding and reproductive cycles.

  Kim Rogers [41:54]: "Oregon grape root... helps curb your appetite, because as you're deworming, they're wanting to be fed to stay alive."

• Biofilm Busters: Herbs like longwort lichen break down protective layers surrounding parasites, making them more susceptible to elimination.

Dietary Considerations During Cleansing

While a strict diet can enhance the effectiveness of a cleanse, Rogers suggests that even without dietary changes, the herb-based cleanse remains beneficial. However, adhering to a candida diet—restricting sugar, carbs, and certain meats—can further support the body's healing process.

Kim Rogers [45:00]: "I'm kind of rewriting some of... no alcohol. You're really just trying over the 30 days to just really hone in on is this your root cause?"

Impact on Mental Health

Parasites can significantly influence mental health by interacting with the nervous system and brain, potentially causing anxiety, depression, schizophrenia, and obsessive-compulsive behaviors.

Kim Rogers [61:38]: "They can control your mind... it can cause you to have anxiety, depression, schizophrenia, split personality."

Rogers underscores the interconnectedness of physical and mental well-being, advocating for comprehensive approaches to health that address parasitic and environmental toxin exposures.

Additional Detox Practices

Beyond cleansing, Rogers incorporates various detoxification methods to maintain optimal health:

• Hyperbaric Oxygen Therapy: Enhances oxygenation of cells, aiding in toxin removal.

• Red Light Therapy: Penetrates deep into the skin to support cellular health and detoxification.

• Castor Oil Packs: Applied to the abdomen to stimulate lymphatic drainage and facilitate toxin elimination.

  Kim Rogers [55:35]: "Castor oil is the best... it's gonna flush your system entirely."

Preventative Measures and Lifestyle Tips

Rogers provides practical advice to minimize parasitic risks:

• Proper Food Preparation: Thoroughly cooking meat and fish and using appropriate soaking methods for produce to eliminate parasites.

  Kim Rogers [24:52]: "I do 2 cups of vinegar, half of a lime, 2 tablespoons of sea salt, and filtered or distilled water, and I soak it for five to 10 minutes."

• Water Filtration: Investing in high-quality water filtration systems with appropriate micron ratings to remove parasites and contaminants.

  Kim Rogers [35:58]: "It's about seven to eight filters before it gets to us."

• Personal Hygiene: Avoiding contact with contaminated water sources and maintaining cleanliness in environments with pets.

Concluding Insights

Mari and Kim wrap up the conversation by emphasizing the importance of facing parasitic issues head-on and becoming proactive health advocates. Rogers encourages listeners to join her community for support and to utilize available resources to understand and address their health concerns effectively.

Kim Rogers [63:32]: "Your story could inspire someone else and heal and help someone else..."

Mari echoes the sentiment, highlighting the transformative power of acknowledging and addressing parasitic infections.

Mari Llewellyn [65:47]: "Wellness means knowing what's going on with your body and being your own advocate."

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Key Takeaways:

• High Prevalence: Nearly 95% of individuals may harbor parasites, often undetected.

• Diverse Symptoms: Parasites can cause physical symptoms like teeth grinding and skin issues, as well as mental health challenges.

• Effective Cleansing: Herbal parasite cleanses, such as Parify, offer a natural approach to eliminating infections.

• Preventative Practices: Proper food preparation, water filtration, and personal hygiene are essential in preventing parasitic infections.

• Holistic Health Advocacy: Taking charge of one's health involves proactive testing, embracing cleansing rituals, and supporting overall well-being through additional detox practices.

This episode serves as a critical reminder of the hidden threats parasites pose to our health and provides actionable strategies to combat them, empowering listeners to pursue genuine wellness from the inside out.

Transcript

[Kim Rogers]

They literally are stealthy, they're opportunist, and they will live in you for decades.

[Mari Llewellyn]

This is the Pursuit of Wellness podcast and I'm your host, Mari Llewellyn. What is up, guys? Welcome back to the Pursuit of Wellness Today. I am so excited for this guest. We are speaking to Kim Rogers, also known as the worm queen. You may have seen her on TikTok. She is really an expert with all things parasites, and she's also one of the only people on the Internet talking about this topic. She's a wellness professional with over 18 years of experience in western medicine. She has contributed to many medical publications and now she's really dedicated herself to parasites. She founded Rogers Hood Apothecary, which created the viral Parify parasite cleanse kit, which gained traction on TikTok and Instagram. She is putting out information on a top topic that none of us want to talk about, but we all need to. It turns out that about 95% of people have a parasite. So today we talk about the symptoms of having a parasite, where you may be contracting it from, how to cleanse from a parasite, the different types of parasites you can have. We discuss sushi, seafood, how to clean your produce, what could be in your water, how to purify your water, ozone therapy, lymphatic drainage, how to order water correctly at a restaurant, oxygen therapy, castor oil packs, and so much more. It honestly is kind of a terrifying topic, but I have to say, Kim makes it so digestible and so approachable. I personally plan on taking the cleanse before I do IVF because I want to see what's going on in my body. And I think the fabulous part about what Kim is doing is she's really helping people take their health into their own hands, figure out what's going on in their bodies. I highly recommend you guys check out her social media. She has so many resources, so much great content. So let's hop into this conversation and learn about all things parasites. Kim, welcome to the pursuit of wellness.

[Kim Rogers]

Thanks for having me. I'm so excited to be here.

[Mari Llewellyn]

I am so excited. We have never done a parasite episode on this show, and I feel like that's very telling of the parasite industry. I'm not sure what to call it, but it really isn't spoken about enough. And you are the parasite expert. On social media, you're known as the worm queen. Yep. Beautiful.

[Kim Rogers]

Crowned as the worm queen. Well, I didn't want to be known as the worm lady. Like, that's just not, like, elegant.

[Mari Llewellyn]

It's not Good. First of all, it's not good enough. Like, you are a queen. Seriously, you're putting out so much amazing information. You're also the founder of Rogers Hood Apothecary. Yes. Which is where you have your parasite cleanses. I am so excited to try those one day.

[Kim Rogers]

So excited.

[Mari Llewellyn]

And I've just seen everyone on TikTok talking about them. I mean, it's become kind of a sensation.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah.

[Mari Llewellyn]

I'd love to start all the way at the beginning to your health journey. How did you become so knowledgeable about parasites?

[Kim Rogers]

Well, I actually have two health care degrees, and I worked in western medicine since 2004. I ran 25 healthcare colleges and I authored multiple books. I did a lot of curriculum. I just overall love medicine. So when my healthcare journey changed my health in 2019, my husband and I decided that we were going to get our affairs in order and go out to our recreational property and heal me. I was kind of circling the drain. I was swollen. I wasn't going to the bathroom. We didn't know what was wrong with me. I had had 13 surgeries and hysterectomy when I was 29. And then so five surgeries before my hysterectomy, five surgeries after my hysterectomy.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Wow.

[Kim Rogers]

And they couldn't figure out what was wrong with me. They just kept coming in and cutting, take this medication, try this, do this. And nothing was working. So my husband and I decided to kind of. He quit his job, became my caretaker, and ended up, like, figuring out what was wrong with me.

[Mari Llewellyn]

You, like, took it into your own hands?

[Kim Rogers]

I did. And luckily I have the knowledge. I do have the knowledge to sit down and really go, well, if I don't want to take big Pharma's medication, but I want to take an herb, what would that look like for me? Would my body respond better to that?

[Mari Llewellyn]

So I think I heard you say you had endometriosis and chronic Lyme.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah, so I have. I had endometriosis atomyosis. I got multiple different autoimmune labels. I didn't find out I had chronic Lyme until actually last year.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Wow.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah.

[Mari Llewellyn]

So how long does chronic Lyme, like, stay in the system?

[Kim Rogers]

I probably have had it since I was young. I remember being bit by a tick when I was 10, so. And then I started having behavioral issues and kind of presenting. But, you know, I'm 46 years old, so 26 years ago or 36 years ago, that wasn't. This wasn't a thing.

[Mari Llewellyn]

And not one of the Doctors you saw brought up the idea of parasites.

[Kim Rogers]

Parasites or mold or Lyme? No, not once.

[Mari Llewellyn]

So what led you to parasites? Like, how did you even discover that that could be the issue?

[Kim Rogers]

So about five years before I went viral in 2021 on TikTok, I thought that I had parasites. I thought I had pinworms. And when I went to my doctor, she's like, no, that's not something that happens here in western medicine or a first world country. You're an adult, you don't have pinworms. Okay, no problem. No problem at all. I don't have pinworms. I had gone and looked at colonics. So I do know that I was kind of researching it a little bit, but I just kind of let it go. And then I was watching a video on TikTok in like May of 2021, and she said she almost offed herself over parasites. And I was like, what, are you kidding me? And so I started kind of researching it and looking and then I got that cleanse that she was talking about.

[Mari Llewellyn]

And did you?

[Kim Rogers]

Within three days, I saw pinworms, liver flukes and roundworm. Within three days. Okay, I know.

[Mari Llewellyn]

I think, I think this is the part where people are like, oh my God, like, I don't even want to know if I have them because I'm scared. But I do think it's important to talk about.

[Kim Rogers]

It's so important.

[Mari Llewellyn]

So you said pinworms, liver flukes and roundworm. Okay, how did they, how did you know?

[Kim Rogers]

Oh, you can see them. Oh, you know, usually during the full moon, I had flares, I had itchy butt. Like, that's why I always joke around about it. You know, if you have itchy butt, you should be conscientious about what's going on. And I could feel movement. Like there was times I could feel.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Movement under the skin.

[Kim Rogers]

Under the skin? Yeah.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay.

[Kim Rogers]

I would cough weird things up.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah, it was a thing.

[Mari Llewellyn]

So. Okay, maybe I'm going to sound ignorant, but do parasites always come out when you're like going to the bathroom or do they come out of other places too?

[Kim Rogers]

They can come out anywhere. When you start to make your body inhospitable, they will come out. Okay, so. And that includes not just doing a parasite cleanse, but when you eat something like pumpkin seeds, that is an anti parasitic. So you've disrupted their home and they're going to start to kind of lay eggs because that's their first instinct, is to keep their generations going. So they're going to lay some eggs and Then they're going to try and evacuate because you've made their. Your body inhospitable and they don't want to live in you.

[Mari Llewellyn]

And they could come out of skin.

[Kim Rogers]

Yep, skin. Eyes, nose, mouth, ears, any orifice that you have, they can escape. And the skin especially because it has pores. So they're just going to come out the pores.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay.

[Kim Rogers]

I had them come out of my feet with the fulvic soak.

[Mari Llewellyn]

No.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah, it's.

[Mari Llewellyn]

And that's one of the products you sell with the hands. Okay, so let's start at the beginning. Everyone listening? What are some of the most. I know it's wild. My eyes are like, no, but it's important. It really is. And I.

[Kim Rogers]

So important. And I feel like it's something that just. When I started going viral In July of 2021, a million people in two hours watched my video. It literally shut my phone off. TikTok wouldn't let me open it for a few hours. And I was. It just kept rolling and I'm like, oh, my gosh. Like, this is something. Something is going on here. And a lot of my information that I got was from my comments because people do this. They just don't want to talk about it.

[Mari Llewellyn]

What are some of the most common symptoms of having a parasite? For anyone listening who's like, oh, my gosh, how do I know if I have one?

[Kim Rogers]

Grinding the teeth is a big one. And that's so unexpected that people just think they have tmj, but really you're grinding your teeth because your lymphatic system and your nervous system is totally off balance and your body's trying to tell you something. So they're grinding their teeth. Then usually an ibs, some sort of gut issues is a big one just because they live in the gut. But they don't just live in the gut. They live in our blood, our tissue and our muscle. They can burrow in. They can live in the cells. Yeah. So usually grinding the teeth. Skin issues is a huge one. That was a big one for me because I have great skin. I know I have good skin. I take care of my skin. And I could not get rid of these. Like, they were almost like a sore on my face.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah.

[Kim Rogers]

And I couldn't get rid of them.

[Mari Llewellyn]

I had. I mean, you and I talked about this a little bit, but I had cystic acne for 10 is. And recently discovered that I had H. Pylori. And is that. That's not a parasite. Right. It's a bacteria.

[Kim Rogers]

It's within the world of parasites because it's eating off of you. It's a bacteria that's living in your gut that's eating off of you. A parasite definition is, is living off the host.

[Mari Llewellyn]

That is crazy. Yeah, that is crazy because when I think about, I mean I've talked about it so much, but my acne journey, like it took over my life and we couldn't, I mean I did every lab test, every poop test and for some reason no one called out the H. Pylori and no one really looked at the parasites. It was like, okay, you have mold, you have heavy metals, you have ochratoxin A or you know, we, we saw things, but we never focused on the H. Pylori. And it's interesting to me now when I see girls struggling with acne or skin issues. It's almost like you need to go to so many different doctors just to have the one person call it out. And really you need to be your own advocate.

[Kim Rogers]

You do. That's what I'm trying to teach people.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah.

[Kim Rogers]

To be their own patient advocate. Because at the end of the day, it's you that has to live with you and figure out what's wrong.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah.

[Kim Rogers]

And you, once you start to clear these environmental toxins, you'll be able to feel your own gut intuition really kind of center yourself and figure out what's going on with you because they're there to help you. They're not there to do it for you.

[Mari Llewellyn]

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[Kim Rogers]

I believe that you should do at least one stool test to get an idea. But you can parasite cleanse without doing a stool test. Other countries, they just do it like two, three times a year. They go and get an anti parasitic at the pharmacy like Mexico does and they just take it. They just know that this is something that is common in the water, in our food, in fish and meat that's undercooked, raw produce, going in a lake, walking barefoot. These are all things that you can catch a parasite and they know it. We just don't know it here in western medicine countries it's just not something that we've ever really talked about or consider could be an option of us doing it. So I just recommend as a good practice, you do it three to four times a year. So we do it seasonally. That's what we do. Group cleanses with Rogers Hood Apothecary with the Parify kit. We do all of the things in order for us to kind of guide you and help you to do it three to four times a year. It's not going to hurt you. These herbs are we're all natural, third party tested. It's a really great cleanse that ends up just helping you kind of reset your body a little bit. Getting rid of some heavy metals, getting rid of some parasites. Candida. So I feel like it's just something that we should all be doing as a good practice in our lives.

[Mari Llewellyn]

I remember you mentioning there was a certain test you did at the beginning, right?

[Kim Rogers]

Oh, yeah. Back to the test.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah. No, I just. Because I know people are going to ask.

[Kim Rogers]

Oh, yeah. So I did a stool test with parasites.org but I actually did it with LabCorp, the same stool. And that's when I found out I had Cryptosporidium parvium, which is parvo. Which kills puppies.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah.

[Kim Rogers]

And we got that from our water. So this whole thing is because our water was contaminated in Hoodsport.

[Mari Llewellyn]

So. Okay, where is that, by the way?

[Kim Rogers]

In Washington.

[Mari Llewellyn]

In Washington. Okay. Did LabCorp catch it or did. Okay, they didn't even catch it.

[Kim Rogers]

No, they didn't catch it. And I do understand how labs work because I worked in training lab technicians, so I understand why they didn't catch it and how it's possible they didn't catch it. But no, they didn't catch it. And it was the same stool. So I did one stool that went to parasites.org and I did one stool.

[Mari Llewellyn]

That went to LabCorp and parasites.org caught it.

[Kim Rogers]

Right. And they go Arizona to Mexico. That's where their lab is.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay. Yeah. Because I have done a stool test that they actually send off to like Europe or something.

[Kim Rogers]

Yes. Because they're more educated. They understand, they believe this is a thing. They all do. But when you have a lab technician that is just looking at it for a few minutes, first off, your stool sits. Right. So anything that could have been alive or moving around is dead. And if they don't know what they're looking for, they get like three minutes and then they look at it. Oh, no, there's nothing there. They mark it negative. But at the bottom of your lab slip, it says, this is not in lieu of a parasitic infection. So.

[Mari Llewellyn]

So what are they even looking for then at LabCorp?

[Kim Rogers]

Usually eggs and ova.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah. They're just looking for very specifics. And if they don't have like a DNA STR structure to look or guide them to understand what it looks like, it's just negative and move on. Unfortunately, with insurance, it has to be positive to pay for your medication for what could be going on. So it's kind of a vicious cycle. So that's why we went independent with everything.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay, so do you guys now offer testing?

[Kim Rogers]

We don't offer it, but you can go on all of my links and parasites.org is on that link. Anybody can go to my links. Everything in my links is you can self serve.

[Mari Llewellyn]

That is amazing. Honestly, I think that is the biggest barrier to entry for so many people because, I mean, I've worked with so many different holistic doctors. It's so expensive.

[Kim Rogers]

It is.

[Mari Llewellyn]

And I hate to even recommend it to people because I'm like, the average person cannot afford this. And it should be available to everyone. Like, it should be easily accessed to figure out what's going on in our own bodies. It drives me crazy when if you go to a doctor and get lab testing done, they don't even want you to see the results.

[Kim Rogers]

And that's how you educate yourself, is to see, oh, there's a marker and I'm kind of in the middle. What do I need to do to adjust it? And that's kind of where the patient advocate side of you as a human needs to say, I'd like a copy of it. And then go online and just kind of look. They'll literally give you the ranges on the side. So it's up to you though, to actually ask for it and they'll give it to you. You just have to ask for it.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah. And that's the part, I think people get nervous because they feel intimidated by the doctor or whatever it may be. I've gotten ruthless at this point. I don't care. I'm like, I'm asking every question. I'm. I'm being annoying because I don't care anymore.

[Kim Rogers]

Good. You should be.

[Mari Llewellyn]

You have to.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah. It's your body. Like at the end of the day, you have to literally figure out what's going on. They're seeing so many patients a day that unfortunately they'll come in, they'll see you, they'll look at the stuff and then they'll leave. And that really, they're not going to give it another thought. I've been doing this for 20 years, so this was really kind of a thing when I worked in the field. Why don't you guys give more time with your patients? I don't. You know, I know it's a money driven thing, but unfortunately, you know, you have people that are getting sicker. And I don't believe that we all have autoimmune disease issues. I believe we have an environmental toxin epidemic.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Thank you.

[Kim Rogers]

Because that's what all of this is. I had mold poisoning. While we were building our log home from our travel trailer that we were living in. While I was building, my husband and I got very sick from mold. The water is what caused me to realize I had parasites, but our water was contaminated. That's an environmental toxin. Lyme is a tick that bit me. That's an environmental toxin. And then unless you find an educated doctor, you're really on your own to keep digging, putting band aids on it with medications and not getting to a root cause, which is why I developed the parafi kit, because it's just helpful to get to a root cause of what could be going on. This may not be your only issue, but it's a big issue in our country, especially if you eat salmon sushi, raw fish. I mean, seriously, raw produce out, because you don't know how it was prepared.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah. No, I really want to dive into, like, where these things are coming from. And I so agree with you. I feel like on this show, I've had expert after expert come on and say fertility's infertility is rising, PCOS is rising, gut health issues are rising. And I think it's all from.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Environmental toxins, and we're not really talking about it enough. Where are the most common places to contract parasites from?

[Kim Rogers]

Pets.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay. Pets is on my list. I'm sorry. You know, that's. I think, how I got H. Pylori.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah. I mean, think about it. They're out there and they're drinking out of puddles. They're licking their bums.

[Mari Llewellyn]

They're eating poop.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah, they're eating poop. They're. You know, it's just.

[Mari Llewellyn]

My dog eats roadkill sometimes.

[Kim Rogers]

Okay. They're eating roadkill, which.

[Mari Llewellyn]

And then I'm like, oh, my God.

[Kim Rogers]

And then you let them. You let your dog lick you.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah. Way more conscious about it. I'm like, did you give me acne for 10 years? Because I'm going to freak out.

[Kim Rogers]

But, yeah, I mean, it's possible. Like, it's possible. And I'm not saying get rid of your dogs or your cats, but, you know, if you think about, like, the cat parasite toxoplasmosis. Have you heard of the.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Is that the one that affects your mental health?

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah. So basically, it can control your mind. It'll give you. It'll be the inability to feel fear and make you promiscuous because you're not. It's like controlling you. And it lives in a mouse. So the mouse cuddles up to the cat, which we all know mice and cat don't like each other. But the next stage of toxo is in an enzyme in the cat's gut. So the mouse goes to the cat, the cat eats it, and then it goes to the next stage of toxoplasmosis, and then you poop it out. And we've all been told, oh, if you're pregnant, don't scoop cat poop. But they say that 60% of people have toxoplasmosis. So it's not just if you're pregnant. It's like, you got to be conscientious if you're scooping cat poop.

[Mari Llewellyn]

That's only cats.

[Kim Rogers]

Only cats can give toxoplasmosis to humans this way. I did get a few people that killed deer, and they cut themselves and got toxo from the deer. So I haven't dove into that realm of toxo. But as far as I understand, the way we explain it is always just cats. It's cat parasite. But okay, anything's possible because there, you know, we're all animals.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah. And what about chickens and horses?

[Kim Rogers]

So horses have ascarisis, which is large roundworm, and that's pretty normal. And that's why they use horse paste. And they should be deworming your horse. Yep. Chickens, they usually give, like, diatomaceous earth. And chickens do also have parasites. I know. I've done a few videos where the chickens eggs have worms in them.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Oh, God.

[Kim Rogers]

So I know I'll ruin food.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Like, I literally ate my chicken's eggs this morning.

[Kim Rogers]

It's okay. You'll see it.

[Mari Llewellyn]

I'll see it. Right? I do always inspect the egg first.

[Kim Rogers]

Yes.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Because I'm just, like, suspicious, you know?

[Kim Rogers]

Okay, I will ruin all food. People that come to my channel are like, oh, my gosh, I used to eat salmon, but I can't anymore after watching you. Salmon was my favorite food ever.

[Mari Llewellyn]

So I think a lot of people eat it very regularly.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah. You just have to really cook it. And everyone says, oh, you should freeze it. But freezing it doesn't kill it. It's only boiling it will kill a parasite. Yeah. Fat flash. Freezing it doesn't.

[Mari Llewellyn]

You know what's funny? I have a memory that I keep thinking about. When I was in college, I was a hostess at a sushi restaurant, and I was horrible at it. So bad. Thank God I figured out my career. But at the restaurant, I remember a customer calling me over on, like, one of my first days. I'm like, oh, shoot, what's wrong? Points at the sushi, there's a worm coming out. And that was the first time I ever was like, oh, do worms. Like, are they often in sushi? Is this a common thing? And I remember running to the kitchen, I'm like, there's worms in the sushi. But now I know that it's pretty common.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah.

[Mari Llewellyn]

To have worms in sushi. So let's. Okay. Pets. Don't make out with your pets.

[Kim Rogers]

Right.

[Mari Llewellyn]

I'm a hu. I need to stop doing that. I do it with my horse, too.

[Kim Rogers]

No, you just need to cleanse.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah, I need to cleanse.

[Kim Rogers]

That's it.

[Mari Llewellyn]

I need to cleanse food. Like, what are the top culprits?

[Kim Rogers]

Meat.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay.

[Kim Rogers]

Raw produce.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah. Not. Not soaking your produce correctly.

[Mari Llewellyn]

What's the correct way?

[Kim Rogers]

So I do 2 cups of vinegar, half of a lime, 2 tablespoons of sea salt, and filtered or distilled water, and I soak it for five to 10 minutes. And then I actually use a Thorisage after that, which is an ozone machine, and it's a bubbler. And so I'll do. We'll do our soaking first. We'll let it soak for five to 10 minutes, we'll rinse, and then we'll go and do the ozone machine. Because you're trying to nourish your body. You're not trying to recontaminate your body with parasites and bacteria, because it lives on that. Especially organic, because, you know, they're not being sprayed. So they really do have a lot more issues going on. So you want to make sure you're soaking all of your produce. Plus that soak will actually crisp up any of your grapes. Grapes. And keep your produce lasting longer because you're removing the bacteria that's eating on your produce.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Oh, okay. I was just doing baking soda.

[Kim Rogers]

A lot of people do baking soda and vinegar, but baking soda and vinegar create a salt, so you don't want to do that because you're actually like. Like, just canceling them out. So. And baking soda just isn't enough.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah.

[Kim Rogers]

In my opinion.

[Mari Llewellyn]

And how long do you leave it for?

[Kim Rogers]

5 to 10 minutes on average. So that's vinegar salt. I like Baja Gold.

[Mari Llewellyn]

That's okay.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah. Because then you're remineralizing your produce as well, since a lot of minerals are now been removed from our food. So you're remineralizing your produce by soaking it, and then I do the lime to give it a little more acidity, and then I just let it sit for five to 10 minutes, and then it Tastes way better. Way better.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay, I'm gonna start doing that.

[Kim Rogers]

It's great.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Maybe we'll write that down and put it in the description box for everyone. You're writing it down? The whole team's wr it down. Seafood.

[Kim Rogers]

Oh, yeah.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay. I know you specifically have spoken about whole foods, right? Like, the piles of seafood in whole foods.

[Kim Rogers]

Costco is a big culprit, actually. Okay. So you know I live in Seattle.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah.

[Kim Rogers]

And Pike Market, which is right there. I live. I lived on second for a few. For a while. I really love Seattle. It's great. I went down and I talked with those fishermen, and they kind of looked at me and they were like, what are you meaning? Like there's worms and the fish. And I go, yeah. And he goes, yeah, all fish have worms closer to the belly. Kite has more parasites than further up. And they say that you can, like, if they did, like, a little sample of salmon and it had, like, 10,000 eggs in it. I know, that's crazy. It is. I'm telling you. Seafood was our. Like, we love seafood. We were crabbers, Jeremy and I.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Do you feel like that's like, a big reason you had a lot of parasites?

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah. I mean, we ate sushi in the vatics. We're from. He's from Reno, and they have, like, all. You can eat sushi there. So we would like, eat that all the time, two to three times a week. And then salmon was my go to. So I would. I could barbecue as mean salmon. Oh, I know.

[Mari Llewellyn]

So do you ever eat seafood now?

[Kim Rogers]

Not salmon. I can't get over what I see.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah, I don't blame you. I mean, after just like, scrolling through your tick tock a little bit, I'm like, I don't know if I can eat salmon anymore.

[Kim Rogers]

It's tough, man.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Well, you know, it's funny because when I did lab testing and I saw that I had heavy metals, I. I used to eat tuna a lot.

[Kim Rogers]

Oh, yeah? Yeah.

[Mari Llewellyn]

I stopped eating tuna. I am somewhat conscious of my sushi intake, but I love, love, love sushi. So if we don't want to give up sushi, like, what should we be doing before or after to mitigate the parasites?

[Kim Rogers]

So for sure, you want to cleanse three to four times a year, but you can actually take paraffine, sustain, and metal flush right before you eat it to help with the digestion and to make your body inhospitable. And that's why a lot of countries will add antiparasitic foods on their food, like pumpkin seeds on salads. Because when it gets into your gut, it actually can, you know, go in there and make them not want to stay and make them leave so they won't burrow in. And especially when you have gut issues like H. Pylori or diverticulitis, it's, you know, the way that our bodies are, is it's a smooth muscle and those things go in and cause indentations inside of that smooth muscle. So they just have an opportunity to live in there and constantly and biofilm themselves. Yeah, so that's kind of the biggest issue with just taking something like not our kit is that you don't have a biofilm buster. We do. It's called longwort lichen and it's in metal flush. It's an herb that we forage. And so it goes in and it breaks that biofilm, exposing them, which that biofilm is basically like an entrance only for your nutrients and nothing comes out of the biofilm. It's a hard, a hard shell for them. It's their protector, it's their home.

[Mari Llewellyn]

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[Kim Rogers]

Yes, that's correct.

[Mari Llewellyn]

That's insane.

[Kim Rogers]

They literally are stealthy, they're opportunist and they will live in you for decades. And I'm so freaked out. I know I sometimes I get goosebumps when I talk about. I think everyone thinks, oh, worm queen. Like she could talk about it. But sometimes I'm like, this is so. It is so wild.

[Mari Llewellyn]

You're like, it deeply bothers me too.

[Kim Rogers]

I just happen to do it with a smile.

[Mari Llewellyn]

I mean, you have a great attitude around it. And it's like, I think it's making people listen.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah.

[Mari Llewellyn]

But wow. So eye opening. So bio. They could be hiding behind biofilm.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah. And things like, let's talk about hookworm. Right?

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah.

[Kim Rogers]

So hookworm. It goes on the side of your vein and it absorbs the iron. So people that have anemia really need to be, like, doing some sort of a parasite cleanse, like parify, because it'll go in and it'll absorb all the iron. And it's really hard to detect because it literally looks like the side of your vein.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Oh, my gosh, that's wild.

[Kim Rogers]

They're very hard to detect.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay, so, I mean, how many types of parasites are there?

[Kim Rogers]

Thousands. Thousands. Thousands can live in our body. And you could have them living in your body and never even know it until you have some sort of a flare or you're over, you know, your. Your body is over stressed, and then they start to become overactive. And that's kind of what started happening with me, was that I had a lot of stress, a lot of health issues going on, and I just. They just started to get wild. And then I was being, you know, pelted with worm water. I wasn't drinking the worm water. I was showering, brushing my teeth with it, rinsing my produce off with it, thinking I'm doing the right thing and brushing my teeth. I think I already said that. Oh, soaking my retainer. Just not really even thinking about the fact that my water could be contaminated.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah, let's talk about water. That's a big one.

[Kim Rogers]

I love talking about water.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Let's talk about water.

[Kim Rogers]

Water, mushrooms and worms.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Oh, yeah, let's go. And we actually, when we sat down and we have glasses of water next to us, we were both like, is this filtered water? Is the ice filtered? Because after researching you and hearing about, like, you gotta really think about everything. And when you're getting a glass of water at a restaurant, is it tap water? Was the ice made in tap water? Is it filtered? So how do we. Number one, how do you like to filter your water at your house? And then what do you do when you're traveling and out and about?

[Kim Rogers]

I. Well, our log home. Because we still own our log home. It's finished, by the way. We love it. It was great. We have a three filter system with a UV light on the filter system. And then it comes to our house and we have another UV light. Then when it gets into the house, we have a whole remineralization system set up for drinking and our ice. And then we have a soft water filter. That helps because now you've kind of hardened your water by removing everything. So now you gotta kind of go back in and assist your water or your hair will. And your skin will be not great.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay.

[Kim Rogers]

So we remineralize it with a reverse osmosis that has like an add back system. So I think by the time it gets to us, it's about seven to eight filters before it gets to us. And again, we know that that water is contaminated, so we're even extra cautious.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Right.

[Kim Rogers]

Then we moved to Seattle and we have an apartment in Seattle, which I tested their water as well and it tested positive.

[Mari Llewellyn]

For what?

[Kim Rogers]

Nematodes.

[Mari Llewellyn]

What's that?

[Kim Rogers]

It's the physical worm.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Oh.

[Kim Rogers]

So there's parasites, which is like crypto defraud Geelys and giardia. A lot of people know what giardia is. And then there's nematodes, which are worms. Okay, so it tested positive for worms.

[Mari Llewellyn]

And you wouldn't be able to see that?

[Kim Rogers]

No, not normally. I saw it in our water in Hoodsport and that's kind of what started making me. I saw something funky in the water and I'm like, gosh, this really is not. This water is looking real weird. And we even had a filter coming into our travel trailer while we were building and I could still see something. So not all filters are created equal. You have to be really conscientious about that. You usually want to look for a filter that is 5 micron or smaller.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay.

[Kim Rogers]

Because nematodes are 40 micron. So. And then other things like heavy metals, pharmaceuticals. So the more of those things you have, then the smaller the micron is.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay, got it. So something like. Do you know what aquatru is?

[Kim Rogers]

Aqua true is good. But you have to look to see what their micron is.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay.

[Kim Rogers]

Aquatru can have. It's like a cloth filter. If you think about what a micron is, it's how many layers of a cloth filter goes in and how much it like goes inside of the filter.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay, I need to check that because I have, I have a filtration system on the whole house. Like I added it when we first got the house because I was like, with my acne, I was like, I need to be taking every precaution. I need to check the microns. And then how do you feel about shower filters? Like, you know, Vitaclean, jolies, that type of thing?

[Kim Rogers]

From what I've researched, they don't have a micron.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay.

[Kim Rogers]

They just have the add back minerals. And that's what's making your hair great and your skin better. But is it getting rid of the 40 micron nematode? Is it, you know, is it getting rid of that? And that's what you have to look for when you're looking for filters.

[Mari Llewellyn]

How about. Okay, we talked about your restructured water. What is that?

[Kim Rogers]

It's basically where they go in and it's oxygenated.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay.

[Kim Rogers]

And it's also like 8.0 or you know, because our body, you're trying to bring your body to a homeostasis level with water. So our skin is like a 6.0, which is what I usually wash my face with. And then your body is around a 7.5. So you're trying to bring down the acidity or the alkaline of your body. And that's why you go in, you get a restructured water in order to have your PH be balanced because you're trying to nutri, you know, give your body nutrients with your water and kind of bring your body into that 7.5, which is really where you should target your homeostasis levels.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Is there a brand that you buy?

[Kim Rogers]

I like a Fora.

[Mari Llewellyn]

A Fora?

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah, they're really great. Yeah, they're a little pricey, but it's worth it. You don't have to drink as much of it. It hydrates your cells versus just drinking the water. And that's kind of the difference between the way we've always thought about water and the way that water hydrates you and actually heals your cells. Going in and actually pushing anything out. It can cause some detox feelings when you do drink this type of water. But man, it is so much better. I can tell. Especially when we travel it's hard because we just find what we can when we're traveling. We just buy like the best type of water we can. And you can tell when you're drinking very good water to just. Okay, I'm just drinking water to like hydrate myself a little.

[Mari Llewellyn]

So what are you grabbing like while you're in Austin, for example?

[Kim Rogers]

Usually like Mountain Valley or Evian.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah, yeah.

[Mari Llewellyn]

I feel like Mountain Valley is like.

[Kim Rogers]

One of the good ones cuz they're in glass. Yeah, I try and stay in glass as much as possible. I'll do plastic. We have plastic today. But it's just because that's like what you have to do when you're traveling.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah, yeah. And at restaurants. What are you asking for?

[Kim Rogers]

I get the dirty looks by the way when I do this. So just know you're going to get dirty looks.

[Mari Llewellyn]

You shouldn't though.

[Kim Rogers]

It's so weird.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Everyone should be doing this.

[Kim Rogers]

They should. You should really want to continue keeping your temple as clean as possible. And it's not just worrying about the tap water. It's also. How did the ice come out of the ice machine? Is it moldy? Because it's gross. Like, you have to clean these machines. And like, let's be honest, people don't always care about what they're doing at their job. So I usually say I'd like a glass, no ice, and sparkling water. Whatever you've got. And sometimes I have little lime packets. Or I'll ask for a lime if they have a bar.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Why does the lime help?

[Kim Rogers]

It just helps create a better atmosphere in the water. Like, brings it more acidity and just tastes better too. But it brings acidity to it also. Just.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Sorry to hop back, but you mentioned pumpkin seeds helping create an inhospitable environment. Are there any other foods that can help with that?

[Kim Rogers]

Papaya. Oh, I'm not a big papaya seed cleanser, but, like, if you do them here and there, I'm trying to think of what else I like to eat that's anti parasitic.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Oh, ginger.

[Kim Rogers]

Ginger's really good. Just anything that is a bitter.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah, they don't like bitter. That's why wormwood works so well. That's why we put in the Parify kit, we put Wormwood, Oregon grape root. Those are all bitters.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Got it.

[Kim Rogers]

They don't like that at all. It makes them go crazy and it paralyzes them and then they want to leave.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay, that's what we want.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah, we want them to be gone.

[Mari Llewellyn]

We want them out.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Let's like, let's go into cleansing.

[Kim Rogers]

Okay.

[Mari Llewellyn]

I have questions about cleansing. I. We've talked a little bit about Parify. I know you have some other ones too. You have a mold one, right? And Guti.

[Kim Rogers]

Right, Guti. We have Pari and that's the. We have multiple kits. And then you can also buy the tinctures by themselves. But we have Pari moldies because I had mold poisoning and it was very difficult to find a great mold cleanse. Very difficult. And then we have a support kit which is kind of a combo of the moldies and the pari. It's my. One of my favorite tinctures. And then we have Red Artists, which is my favorite tincture, next to Sustain. And then we have Fulvic and Gutti.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay. What should people expect? Let's talk about Parify. What should they expect to happen when they do this cleanse?

[Kim Rogers]

Usually you're going to get some flu like, symptoms which we call die offs.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay.

[Kim Rogers]

When these things are dying off, they're peeing, pooping, and dropping toxins. Into your body. And so you want to go in and create as much assistance as possible. And the way I usually explain how I decided on the herbs is that it's. Each herb has its own frequency, and each ailment has its own. And so it's kind of like the opera singer singing and breaking the glass. Her voice got to the same level as that glass, so it shattered. If you can find the frequency of that ailment, you can actually go in with that herb and shatter that ailment. So as I did my own detoxing and my own cleansing, I went through all of my symptoms. Headache, white willow bark. So I brought in white willow bark. Heavy metals were being dropped out of the physical worm itself, because they can hold six times their normal weight in spores, heavy metals, bacteria, and toxins.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Ew.

[Kim Rogers]

So what do you need to do to bring that in and clean it out? So I brought in ousnia. Ousnia is mother nature's doxycycline. It can go in and help assist with removing viruses and bacteria. So they're dropping those. So you got to go in and. Right. So that's the frequency of it. And I really love Oregon grape root. It is by far one of my favorite antiparasitic herbs. It's also a bourbine, so it helps with inflammation. It helps kind of curb your appetite, because as you're deworming, they're wanting to be fed to stay alive. They are wanting to be strengthened. So you're eating things you would never eat. I sat and ate hamburgers and ice cream, and I don't eat hamburgers and ice cream. When I first did my cleanse, and I'm like, why am I eating this? I don't understand what's happening. It's because they want to stay strong. You're weakening them. And they're like, no, man. Keep me strong. So eat the things like sugar. They thrive off of it.

[Mari Llewellyn]

So what's the diet you should be doing while cleansing?

[Kim Rogers]

Well, right now, we have you doing as strict diet as possible, a candida diet, which is no sugar, no carbs, no meat, which I've done some research and found that actually it's a good thing to eat some protein while you're doing these cleanses. So I'm kind of rewriting some of. I'll give, like, two different types of cookbooks soon. That's kind of on my list of things I'm doing. And so no alcohol. You're really just trying over the 30 days to just really hone in on Is this your root cause? What else can I do to my body to kind of aid it? And that's what it is. It's really just curving some of your food. And I think that's the hardest part for people.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah, I would imagine the diet's challenging. I've sort of followed a candida diet in the past. I mean, I used to eat so strict when I. My acne was bad because I was convinced every food was giving me acne. It's tough. It's a very restricting lifestyle, but it can be a good tool when you need it.

[Kim Rogers]

I feel like if you're not going to do the diet, it's okay, really. I would prefer people to just do the cleanse. If you're not going to do the diet, don't have that. Stop you. Your taste buds are gonna change. They're in our mouth, so your taste buds are gonna change. And as you're doing it, you're gonna have a better feeling. You're gonna feel like you want to take care of your food intake and you're gonna understand food better. Yeah, but, like, just get the herbs in you. That's really what makes this so successful. The tinctures get in, and they don't mess around with stomach acid. They get in. They get right into your bloodstream. That's why tinctures are so great. And you're going to start to feel better, and then you're going to go, oh, wait, I could do other things because I'm feeling better. Don't rely so heavily on the diet.

[Mari Llewellyn]

I feel like even eliminating sugar and alcohol is, like, a good start.

[Kim Rogers]

Yes, Huge, huge start. And it's so hard. I get it. It's so hard. But it's a good start.

[Mari Llewellyn]

So, okay, let's say you're doing the cleanse and things are coming out. Are they coming out dead or alive? Is that crazy to say?

[Kim Rogers]

No, not even.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Do you know what I mean?

[Kim Rogers]

Oh, my gosh. It's such a question that's asked all the time. Okay, so mostly dead.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay.

[Kim Rogers]

That's the goal. That's why it's great to have a kit with parafi, because you're binding. We have a binder, so it's three tinctures in a binder. So you're binding, you're utilizing herbs that will paralyze them and off them and then they come out. But, I mean, it's not always that way. I had a worm swim out of my feet, and it was alive, and I was shocked. Like, I have videos where I'M sitting there, I'm like, nothing's happening, nothing's happening. And then all of a sudden, seconds later, something's swimming in the water. And yeah, so they're not always dead when they come out. But mostly that's the goal, is mostly to have them dead.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Do you get sent crazy videos?

[Kim Rogers]

So many.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Like, of what?

[Kim Rogers]

Well, I've had people send me a picture of them peeing.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Your DMS are probably insane.

[Kim Rogers]

They're wild.

[Mari Llewellyn]

You're like, this is inappropriate. I don't want to see your bottle. Thank you so much. Oh my gosh.

[Kim Rogers]

Toilet a lot of toilet pictures, people's babies, diapers a lot. That's, that's. That one really hits me hard.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Oh, that's sad.

[Kim Rogers]

I know.

[Mari Llewellyn]

You can't do a cleanse on a baby, can you?

[Kim Rogers]

No, it's ages three and up. Really is when we're one of the few parasite cleanses that children can take.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Because it's all natural.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah, it's all natural. It's gentle, like, it's very effective, but it is gentle. But my DMs are wild. I do have a team that helps me now because they've gotten.

[Mari Llewellyn]

You have to.

[Kim Rogers]

Oh, thousands. I mean, you understand.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah.

[Kim Rogers]

I mean, you have like 1.5 million, so I can only imagine.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Well, I'm not getting like butthole pics.

[Kim Rogers]

Oh my God. Butthole worms, like poop. It's when you, when you come work for us, it's your first question, like, do, do you get bothered by poop worms?

[Mari Llewellyn]

Because you're going to be looking at it every day.

[Kim Rogers]

Looking at them every day. Emails, we get email pictures. We actually have a 600 page parasite identification ebook that's free in my profile. It's in two parts so that you can get a better idea of what you're looking at when you look in the toilet. Because there just isn't anything out there.

[Mari Llewellyn]

That's amazing.

[Kim Rogers]

I think I had like, I have like 15,000 pictures that I've collected over the last three years doing this because I'm easy to talk to. You can send me anything, I'm willing to look at it and I usually can identify it.

[Mari Llewellyn]

And people are probably freaked out.

[Kim Rogers]

Oh, freaked out. I was freaked out. There was no one. When I started going viral and talking about this literally, I mean, there wasn't any colleagues that I could go and talk with. They all thought I was nuts. You know, like, it's okay. I mean, I'm okay to be nuts, but like.

[Mari Llewellyn]

No, but I mean, if you're getting that many photos. It's clearly happening to every. I mean, is it safe to say we all have a parasite?

[Kim Rogers]

85 to 90 is what they say, but I would say it's about 95% of us have a parasite. 95, I would say.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Crazy.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah. But statistically, it's between 1.5 and 2 billion people in the world. So, I mean, that's a lot. That's a lot of people. And with other countries cleansing, like Mexico, Guatemala, Jamaica uses a tea called the bush, and they drink it monthly. Oh, yeah, we did a lot of cruising. Instead of doing, like, anything else, we would go on the cruise, and I would talk with all of the people on the cruise because they all live in other countries. So I'd be like, so do you guys parasite cleanse? And they're like, yeah, don't you? I'm like, well, I do, but.

[Mari Llewellyn]

But I'm the worm queen.

[Kim Rogers]

I am the worm queen.

[Mari Llewellyn]

You're like, you came to the right person. Yes, I do. I mean, most people don't even discuss this as a problem.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay, last crazy question I have. What is the biggest parasite you've seen?

[Kim Rogers]

A tapeworm.

[Mari Llewellyn]

How big is that?

[Kim Rogers]

Well, so the ones that I've seen have filled, like, the bottom of a large mason jar. Oh, my God. But they can grow up to, like, 30, 40ft, and they can live in you for decades, and they can lay a million eggs a day, and each one of the segments can have up to 46 uteruses. So I don't have a tapeworm. I'm very fortunate.

[Mari Llewellyn]

How would you know if you had a tapeworm?

[Kim Rogers]

Oh, you'd see little rice in your poop. That's their eggs. Yeah. And they just. RFK Jr. Had a tapeworm in his brain, and it ate some of his brain.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah, he just. Did he just talk about that?

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah, like six or seven months ago.

[Mari Llewellyn]

I think I saw that.

[Kim Rogers]

It's very common when you eat undercooked pork. It's very common when you eat pork.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Got it. Okay.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah. Pork is a huge factor in tapeworms.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay. Got it. I feel like I don't eat that much pork.

[Kim Rogers]

No, I don't eat pork anymore either, which is tough because I really like bacon and it's crispy, so there's probably nothing left. But, like, again, I can't get past the.

[Mari Llewellyn]

The risk of it.

[Kim Rogers]

I can't even get past the thought. Like, it's a lot.

[Mari Llewellyn]

It's a lot. I mean, when I was listening to some of the podcasts you've been On, I think there was a girl who was saying she had like a foot long black. What was it called?

[Kim Rogers]

Mucoid plaque or rope worm, which a lot of people will say rope worm doesn't exist, but it really does exist, and I've seen it, and it's in our parasite identification book, and it wraps around causing back problems. And the gutti helps with ropeworm. People that take guti. It really gets in there and like pressure washes your colon. So just like in your heart, you have plaque that builds up in your colon, and so you gotta go in there and help kind of alleviate that. We eat a lot of greasy food in life, so why not just give yourself a little bit of extra boost? But ropeworm is a thing. It can regenerate itself. So it's really kind of a taboo subject for a lot of people.

[Mari Llewellyn]

And just for anyone listening who. So I told you, I'm going through IVF right now. People listening who are pregnant, they should wait to cleanse.

[Kim Rogers]

Correct.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay.

[Kim Rogers]

You can't cleanse while you're pregnant. Breastfeeding under the age of three, on blood thinners or chemo meds. It's highly not recommended.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay. Because.

[Kim Rogers]

And it has nothing to do with parify. It's the wormwood in the organ grape root. Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you, but that's what it is. It's the herbs. It's not parify itself. It's actually the herbs say not to.

[Mari Llewellyn]

And it. Because it, like, cleans everything out.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah, yeah. It's gonna go in and just flush your system entirely. Now, if you're wanting to get pregnant, we've had a few people take our cleanse and have had a lot of success because your body is. Something's not eating off of you anymore, so your body feels ready.

[Mari Llewellyn]

I've. I've actually heard of that happening. I feel like when I was trying to conceive and I found the H. Pylori, I was like, oh, this could have been.

[Kim Rogers]

Yes.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Something getting in the way. Who knows? Let's talk about other ways of detoxing.

[Kim Rogers]

Okay.

[Mari Llewellyn]

The body. What are some other things you do outside of the cleanse? To detox regularly?

[Kim Rogers]

Not just detox, but things that I do to continue to supplement my body, which helps with detoxing. I do things like hyperbaric chamber, which is oxygen therapy, and that helps goes in and detox my cells by pushing out toxins and basically assisting my cells and getting oxygen. I do a lot of red light. It's one of my favorite things. I Do castor oil to help my body detoxify and just feel better. What else do I do?

[Mari Llewellyn]

I love castor oil puffs.

[Kim Rogers]

Castor oil is the best. Have you done it with red light?

[Mari Llewellyn]

No. And I actually heard you. I heard you recommend that. I was like, I need to do that. I would do the pack before the sauna, sweat it out, or I would wear it overnight. And that really helps you go to the bathroom. Right?

[Kim Rogers]

Right.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay. Wait. Why does red light help?

[Kim Rogers]

Because it penetrates the castor oil deep, so the red light gets through multiple layers of the derma, and then it pushes the castor oil further and further down.

[Mari Llewellyn]

And do you just put it on your stomach?

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah, I usually do my abdomen and my neck, and then I just, like, bask in the red light. I love it. I love to do biohacking stacking, because I don't have a lot of time anymore. So if I'm on my vibration plate, I'm doing weights, and I'm sitting in front of the red light, and I'll usually do some castor oil. So I do it all at once.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yep. I love a habit stack Y. I do my red light while listening to, like, positive affirmations.

[Kim Rogers]

Smart.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Red light's a good time to do multiple things at once.

[Kim Rogers]

I feel like it is.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Castor oil is a great idea.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah, it's the best. I really don't do a lot of packs, to be honest. I usually will sit with red light and castor oil, or I'll get into my infrared sauna, and I'll just slather myself in castor oil, and I'll just chill in there. Because now I'm doing multiple levels of detoxing.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah. And it's important to. How often are you doing that?

[Kim Rogers]

I try and do it two to three times a week.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay, so pretty frequently.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah.

[Mari Llewellyn]

And oxygen therapy, Is that the same thing as ozone?

[Kim Rogers]

No, ozone is its own therapy. You can do ozone. I usually will do ozone in my mouth. I'll put it in my water pick. And because lime can live in your mouth and cause you to have cavity cavities and issues in your mouth. And so I'll ozone my mouth with my water pick to get rid of the bacteria that is actually causing you to have cavities. So ozone goes in, and I use the bubbler from thersage. It's great. It's one of my favorite things.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Do you use that in your mouth, or is that a separate tool?

[Kim Rogers]

I use. I use. I make water, and then I put that. The ozone Water in my water pick. And then I water pick my mouth.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay. Because I was doing. When I had acne and I was like, felt like I had mold and all this stuff. I would go do ozone IVs every week.

[Kim Rogers]

Nice.

[Mari Llewellyn]

And I would sit there for ages and they would do the ozone light on the blood. It's pretty crazy.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah, it's pretty crazy what you can do.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah. And people would do it up their butt.

[Kim Rogers]

Sometimes they do ozone enemas, which are really great because they can help remove different types of bacteria, parasites, diverticulitis. Like you're going in and it gets up into your liver. So it's like removing bacterias. But yeah, I do nad.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah.

[Kim Rogers]

But I haven't done ozone IV yet. I. It is on my list for 20, 25.

[Mari Llewellyn]

I think you'd like it. I felt like I had crazy die off symptoms every time I did it. Like I would be really tired. It got better and better and better as I kept going. My husband kind of made fun of me because he thought it was like bs.

[Kim Rogers]

No, it's not though.

[Mari Llewellyn]

I don't think it's bs.

[Kim Rogers]

It's cleaning your blood.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yes.

[Kim Rogers]

Like our blood is our source. It's our oil in our body. Yes.

[Mari Llewellyn]

And they say, I guess they use it in Germany as a form of an antibiotic almost.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah. Germany has great medical studies. They use wormwood for patients that have Ms. Germany has amazing medical system. They're very smart. They're one of the leading for Lyme.

[Mari Llewellyn]

So. Interesting.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah.

[Mari Llewellyn]

So Lyme seems to be. Is it like when you have Lyme and parasites, do they kind of feed off of each other?

[Kim Rogers]

They do. It's a co infection. So it's usually parasites, mold and Lyme. And when you start to detox mold, it kind of exposes them because it's a spare key that burrows like Ms. Into your muscle and it stays there. And they also have a very hard biofilm that protects them. So it kind of goes in and like wormwood can help break that with different biofilm busters. And then they feel exposed. So then they're kind of removing themselves out of. And you can feel it. I can feel when my lime is dying off.

[Mari Llewellyn]

So wild.

[Kim Rogers]

Wild.

[Mari Llewellyn]

So wild. I feel like when I got rid of some of my mold and heavy metals, that's when things got exposed.

[Kim Rogers]

Yes.

[Mari Llewellyn]

And we talked about on lab results, you mentioned eos, right? What is that?

[Kim Rogers]

Eosinophils.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay.

[Kim Rogers]

So it's just an indicator that you have parasites or fungus in your blood. So usually if it's high. And again, if you look at your labs, which you're allowed to have your labs printed, and it's a high number next to the number, it'll give you a range that high number. It will end up showing you that you have something going on, whether it's mold or parasites or both. And my range was above a 1. And I have my medical records from when I was born, which is kind of funny. And I've always had a high number. That's how I'm able to kind of track back what was going on with me.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Wow.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah. But it's a really good indication.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah. I think mine is a little bit elevated.

[Kim Rogers]

And it. And it could be elevated if you're having issues with any sort of cold and you're getting it done. But I recommend getting blood work done over the full moon. That's usually what I recommend for people.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay.

[Kim Rogers]

Because it'll give you the most heightened issues.

[Mari Llewellyn]

I didn't know that.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah.

[Mari Llewellyn]

That's so interesting. I always thought it was timed with, like, the women's menstrual cycle.

[Kim Rogers]

When. When you're having the most flare or when you should get your blood work.

[Mari Llewellyn]

I guess when you should get your blood work done.

[Kim Rogers]

I mean, your body is in more heightened when you're having your woman's time. But as far as when parasites are the most active, it is during the full moon is when they're the most active.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay.

[Kim Rogers]

So if you're having a lot of flares during a full moon, you should really consider looking at why. And that's what I started doing. And that's kind of what was wild about when I watched this girl who did a parasite cleanse, went viral over it as well. About how she almost unalived herself over worms. I looked and I was like, oh, my gosh. Like, I literally have flares almost every full moon. This is crazy, because I mark everything on a calendar to just, oh, I didn't feel well today. What's going on?

[Mari Llewellyn]

Or like, I didn't sleep last night.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Interesting. Okay. I'm gonna definitely take note of that and check next time because it's a.

[Kim Rogers]

Real thing when they say people are crazy in the er. I worked in the er. They really are during a full moon.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Wow.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Okay, so let's talk about mental health.

[Kim Rogers]

Okay.

[Mari Llewellyn]

That seems like a good bridge here. How. How could. We talked a little bit about toxoplasmosis. Plasmosis. How could having a parasite affect our mental health?

[Kim Rogers]

Well, they can control your mind, so it's not always you acting like that. It literally is a living thing inside of you, and it can control your nervous system, and it can get into your brain, and so it can cause you to have anxiety, depression, schizophrenia, split personality. And if all of a sudden you're like, wait a minute, that's not really how I feel. Why did I say that? You could have something living inside of you causing you to do those things.

[Mari Llewellyn]

It makes me think about, like, when I was in college and I was going through such a hard time and just feeling very. I would make, like, very spontaneous decisions and put myself in dangerous situations. And yes, alcohol was definitely a part of that, but I always felt like something was off with me.

[Kim Rogers]

Yeah.

[Mari Llewellyn]

And even now, I've heard you say sort of like OCD tendencies could pop up.

[Kim Rogers]

Yes.

[Mari Llewellyn]

I feel like I have a very obsessive personality, and it comes out every now and again. Is that something that could be tied into parasites, too?

[Kim Rogers]

Yes, for sure it can be tied into that. And environmental toxins. Not just parasites themselves, but Lyme, strep, Epstein Barr virus. A lot of people have, I have Epstein Barr virus and strep in my brain. And I did a zoomer, and it showed that I have OCD in my brain, and it is from the environmental toxins that I've been exposed to. So it's. You know, it really is a great way to kind of start pulling the onion layers off and finding out what's going on, because it's not just one thing.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Normally, what would you say to people who don't want to talk about this topic? And, like, what's your mission with what you're doing?

[Kim Rogers]

I would tell people, first off, you can always come to us. Literally. We have this huge community. We have over a million followers at this point. So it's not just me doing this. It's all of us. We all understand what this looks like. And your story could inspire someone else and heal and help someone else, and you just don't know what they're suffering from without you opening up as well. And that's kind of where I've been so successful, because I am opening up about something that no one really wants to talk about because they think it's embarrassing. But it is an issue. This is a huge issue. And other countries don't have problems talking about it, but Western medicine countries do. And that's really where I, running a business that I run, am able to see these countries who really need to talk about this. It's a health issue, and it's not Something to be embarrassed about. It's not something that you should hide from. It's so easy to just go and take our cleanse for 30 days, see what's going on, see if anything comes out and make yourself feel better.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah.

[Kim Rogers]

Mentally, physically, emotionally, spiritually. I mean, it's really a spiritual thing as well. You start to connect more with your body and your mind and you start to feel better. You're not sitting here going, what's wrong with me? Why did I do this? Or why did I feel this way? You know, why am I always sick? You're not sick. The body is meant to heal itself. Literally, when you cut yourself, it wants to heal itself. It's just protecting your yourself from any sort of environmental toxins.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Yeah. And I feel like just from hearing your story and message, it's about kind of facing things head on too. I think a lot of us would rather pretend that nothing's happening and if I don't see it, it's not really going on. But this is about like facing it head on and also hearing stories of it happening to so many other people. It kind of makes me feel better about doing something like this. And I'm sure people listening too. My final question for you is one I ask every guest that comes on the show. What does wellness mean to you?

[Kim Rogers]

Wellness means knowing what's going on with your body and being your own advocate.

[Mari Llewellyn]

Hell yeah. I love that so much. Kim, where can everyone find you and the cleanses online?

[Kim Rogers]

You can find me on Mrs. Rogershood on tick tock and Mrs. Rogers Hood on Instagram threads, YouTube. We're on rogershood.com is our website and our company just is so thankful that we have this opportunity to be able to share all of our knowledge.

[Mari Llewellyn]

You're doing amazing things. Thank you so much.

[Kim Rogers]

Thank you for having me.

[Mari Llewellyn]

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