Casters on Casters: Jordan Morris and Mallory O'Meara

Summary

Podcast Summary: Casters on Casters: Jordan Morris and Mallory O'Meara

Podcast: Reading Glasses
Hosts: Mallory O’Meara, Brea Grant
Guests: Jordan Morris
Date: April 20, 2026

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Episode Overview

In a special crossover episode for Maximum Fun Drive, “Casters on Casters,” Mallory O’Meara (Reading Glasses and Reading Smut) and Jordan Morris (Jordan, Jesse, Go! and Free with Ads) dive into the art and craft of podcasting itself. With humor and insight, they reflect on their podcasting journeys, the evolution of their shows, the value of audience engagement, and what keeps their podcasts fresh and fun after years in the game. Listeners are treated to lessons on building inclusive communities, favorite running jokes, the pitfalls of podcasting, and why being earnest (and sometimes silly) matters.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Introducing the Guests and Their Shows

• Mallory outlines her work on Reading Glasses (a show to help people read "better, not harder") and Reading Smut (a candid, humorous exploration of romance and erotic fiction).
• Jordan describes Jordan, Jesse, Go! as a “nonsensical pointless chat comedy show” and Free with Ads, a podcast devoted to reviewing movies available for free streaming—with all the intrusive ad breaks included.
  • (00:41 – 02:47)

2. The Importance of Improv in Podcasting

• Mallory praises Jordan’s effortless humor and speed, asking about his training.
• Jordan credits improv classes, emphasizing the “yes, and” principle as key to engaging conversations:
  • Quote: “Even if you’ve never taken an improv class, the thing you’ve probably heard about them is they want you to say yes and...it’s really important…if you’ve ever listened to a podcast and you’ve not felt it, it’s probably because the guests or the hosts are shutting someone down, or they're not agreeing to the premise.” (03:29)
• Both criticize one-word answers and “shutting down the show," agreeing that engagement and enthusiasm are critical.
  • (03:01 – 04:36)

3. Making Book Talk Fun and Inclusive

• Jordan notes that Mallory (and her co-host Bria) avoid all the usual book-snob stereotypes, focusing on fun and accessibility.
• Mallory explains the organic origin of Reading Glasses’ tone: No gatekeeping, no shame. The goal is to make reading accessible, especially for those whose reading lives have been hurt by academia or life changes.
  • Quote: “Reading occupies this really interesting space...people elevate it higher than video games, than watching movies...because when you’re in school, you’re assigned to read. So...there’s a lot of snootiness to it, and that's just not who Bria and I are.” (05:55)
• She further champions the idea that reading for fun counts, even if the books are “bad” or “trashy.”
  • (05:00 – 08:17)

4. Community Engagement and Listener Shaping the Show

• Mallory shares that reading glasses started getting a flood of listener emails almost immediately, and their feedback rapidly shaped the show’s direction—leading to recurring segments based on solving real reader problems.
  • Quote: “We use so much listener feedback in the show...a lot of our segments are answering listener questions, answering recommendation requests...it's really shaped the show.” (08:54)
• She compares the immediacy of podcast feedback to the slow gratification of book publishing.
  • (08:54 – 11:11)

5. Running Jokes, Listener Culture & Show Evolution

• Jordan recounts multi-decade running jokes on his podcast—for example, characters “Chip Dipson” and “Dip Dobson”, created as comic names that listeners adopted and which have now found their way into Marvel comics.
  • Quote: “There’s a Dr. Chip Dipson in an issue of Deadpool...I've started writing some Marvel comics...I got to put Dip Dobson into a Marvel comic.” (16:24 – 16:56)
• Mallory recalls the birth of Reading Glasses’ inside jokes, like calling their fans “Sarahs” due to email patterns and using a slide whistle for “hot book tips.”
• Both hosts revel in how listener in-jokes and culture give their shows warmth and continuity.
  • (14:24 – 18:26)

6. How Fans Change the Hosts’ Lives

• Both note their audiences may not be the biggest, but are always notably kind, supportive, and enthusiastic.
  • Quote (Jordan): “When things seem dark… the listeners we have cultivated…are nice, lovely people…Every time we hear from them, it's a nice person who is probably cool, probably a librarian.” (12:29 – 13:27)
• Mallory calls Reading Glasses listeners her “security blanket” at live events: “I have never done a book event where there were not reading glasses listeners. That’s awesome.” (14:12)

7. Notable Book/Show Moments

• Discussion of past wild book selections, like Queenie and the Krakens (“about a woman who is a polycule with a merman biker gang...the mermen are also motorcycles—murdercycles, if you will”).
  • (08:21 – 08:47)
• Favorite recommendations and fan submissions, such as “save a horse, ride a cowman,” and endless debate about the perfect snacks for reading (consensus: nude gummy worms).
  • (11:31 – 12:08)

8. Reflections on Longevity and Craft

• Jordan marvels at nearing 1,000 episodes on Jordan, Jesse, Go! and the cumulative weight (and weirdness) of long-running podcast bits.
  • (14:55 – 15:18)
• Both credit their audiences and the responsive, iterative nature of podcasting for helping them keep shows energizing and relevant.

9. A Tone of Joy, Silliness, and Support

• The episode concludes with playful banter (about giving everyone horses in Oprah style), calls for listener support (especially during Maximum Fun Drive), and affirmations of the non-corporate, co-op spirit of Maximum Fun.
  • (18:38 – End)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Podcasting with Heart:
  • “We take the shame and guilt out of your book life...and for reading smut...we smut like it deserves to be treated like a good girl—just kidding—like real literature.” —Mallory O’Meara (01:12)
• On Running Jokes:
  • "On the Marvel Wiki, if you search Chip Dipson...I got to put Dip Dobson into a Marvel comic..." —Jordan Morris (16:35)
• On Community:
  • “I have never done a book event where there were not reading glasses listeners. That's awesome.” —Mallory O’Meara (14:12)
• On Listener Engagement:
  • “It's really become a security blanket...you know what, if no one got me, at least the Glassers got me.” —Mallory O’Meara (14:13)
• On the Ethos:
  • "You can read to improve your life...but it's also just as valid to read to entertain yourself and have fun. And that's why we're here." —Mallory O’Meara (08:09)
• On Bonus Content:
  • “And a free horse. Free horse may not—you have to do one of those fast disclaimers—the free horse is a joke.” —Jordan Morris (20:36)

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 00:41 – 02:47: Host and guest intros, show overviews
• 03:01 – 04:36: Improv and podcasting skills
• 05:00 – 08:17: Building an inclusive, anti-snob reading podcast
• 08:54 – 11:11: How listeners shape show content
• 14:24 – 18:26: Running jokes, slide whistles, and community
• 12:29 – 13:27 / 14:12: Audience impact on hosts’ lives
• 16:24 – 16:56: Running jokes entering Marvel comics
• 18:38 – 20:36: Maximum Fun Drive, horses, and the support pitch

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Conclusion

This episode is both a love letter to podcasting and a masterclass in community-oriented show design. With equal parts self-deprecation, enthusiasm, and genuine affection for their audiences, Mallory O’Meara and Jordan Morris showcase why their podcasts have remained meaningful and fun. New listeners and longtime fans alike will find motivational insights and lots of laughs—especially if their name is Sarah, or they’ve ever wanted to read with zero shame (and maybe a slide whistle).

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Transcript

[A]

Hey, listeners, what are you hearing right now? Something really special. Why? Because it's a very special time. It is the first day of Maximum Fun Drive. We're so excited about it. And to celebrate, you're about to hear something really cool. Call Casters on Casters. No, there's no fireballs. No, there's no mana, but there is me and Jordan Morris talking about podcasting. Your favorite thing. Our favorite thing. It's really cool. It's really exciting. If you want to support this really fun thing that we're about to do, the show that you're. That you love, that is. This has magically appeared in its feed. Go to maximumfun.org join to sign up right now to support me, Bria, and all of our extremely hungry yet picky animals. We adore you. Thank you so much for listening. And check out this cool thing.

[B]

Welcome to Casters on Casters conversations about the art and craft of podcasting with the masters of the medium, magicians of the microphone, finessers of ad reads so byzantine that you'd never even know you were listening to one. On today's show, Jordan Morris of Free with Ads and Mallory o' Meara of Reading Glasses and Reading Smut.

[A]

Hi, listeners. You know who I am. I've been on. I've been on this show before. Are you a real listener? Have you listened to all these episodes? My name is Mallory o'. Meara. I'm the host of Reading Glasses and Reading Smut with my good friend Bria Grant. If you've never heard our show before, do you like books? Do you like reading? Do you like. Do you wish you liked books and like reading? That's where reading glasses comes in. We can help you read better. Not harder, not faster. Read better. We take the shame and guilt out of your book life and make you laugh while doing so. And for reading smut, we. I mean, does what it says on the tin, folks. We read smut and we talk about it. It's less of a book review show and more of a like, okay, mermen, Enemies to lovers, only one bed, friends to lovers. Why do people like these things? What do they get out of them? And most importantly, we smut like it deserves to be treated like a good girl. Just kidding. Like real literature. And if that sounds like you, come over and check us out.

[B]

Hi, I'm Jordan Morris. I co host Jordan Jessie Go, the absolutely nonsensical pointless chat comedy show with Jesse Thorne. Every week we sit down with a special guest from the world of entertainment, comedy, the arts, et Cetera, and we have an absolutely stupid conversation with them that we hope makes you laugh. I'm also the co host of Free Free with Ads, a podcast that has a little bit more of a point. I do that with Emily Fleming and Matt Lieb. We watch all kinds of movies as long as they're free. Classics, cult classics, camp classics, any kind of movie, as long as it's interrupted periodically by super loud car insurance commercials.

[A]

It's so real.

[B]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Hey, person staying at home, you probably leave sometimes, right? And when you do, you're gonna need car insurance.

[B]

Right?

[A]

So, Jordan, you are one of my favorite podcasters.

[B]

Cut it out. No, no, hey, the feeling is mutual. The feeling is mutual.

[A]

And something I really admire about you and I think is really cool about a lot of really good podcasters is you have training in being this good. What you do seems really effortless. Every single time you've ever been on any of my shows, Every single time I've been on a show with you, which is quite a bit at this point. You're always effortlessly funny, you're so fast, which is amazing. But there's a lot of, like, training and work to get to that point, I'm assuming.

[B]

Yeah. I mean, listen, am I embarrassed about the amount of time I've spent an improv classes? Yes, I am. But I do think it served me well when it comes to podcasting because, you know, even if you've never taken an improv class, the thing you've probably heard about them is they want you to say yes and yes and. And it's like dorky as that is. I do think it's really important because. Yeah, I mean, if you've ever listened to a podcast and you've not felt it, it's probably because the guests or one of the hosts is shutting someone down, or they're not agreeing to the premise of the show, or they're giving

[A]

one word answers and then suddenly the interview's over in five minutes.

[B]

Right? Yes. And yeah. And I think as a podcaster, you know, you wanna be kind of active in the conversation.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

You wanna be adding to it. And so, yes, those one word answers, that'll shut down a show. And, you know, crapping on the premise of the show will stop the show. So, like, yeah, so when I go on a show, I like to, you

[A]

know, lean in, baby.

[B]

Lean in, baby. So, yes, improv, it turned out to be good for something other than getting chicks. That's not true.

[A]

Can you hear those screams, folks? That's all that are waiting outside the building for Jordan Morris to come out the back door.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

I had to fight my way through them to get in.

[B]

Oh, boy. I know. They're rough. They're biters.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Mallory, something I like about you as a podcaster is that you have a topic which people could approach in a way that would be snooty. But both reading glasses and reading smut are so much fun, and they're so funny. I think that, like, when you think book podcast host, you think of a turtleneck. Turtleneck tote bags.

[A]

It doesn't help that I'm literally in a suit and tie right now.

[B]

But you are.

[A]

But I'm in a cool suit and tie.

[B]

It's cool. You're kind of, like. It's kind of, like, ironic. It's kind of got a David Byrne thing going on. But. Yeah. And I just love how much you always have so much fun.

[A]

We do.

[B]

And. Yeah. And I would love to hear more about if that was something you talked about when you started reading glasses or if that's just how the show is, because that's how you are.

[A]

It was extremely organic. It was not part of the DNA planned DNA of reading glasses or reading smut. Well, actually, it was for reading smut, because we started reading smut about a year ago. So eight years in, we were like, let's have a baby. This is going so well. But reading glasses, really, it did start that way. We were just like, this is really. We want to have a book show where you don't have to have read anything to listen to it. And that's just kind of how Bria and I are. Reading occupies this really interesting space where it is entertainment, but people elevate it higher than video games, than watching movies, than these other things. Because when you're in school, you're assigned to read. So people still, we get a lot of listeners that are like, oh, I came out of grad school and it ruined my reading life. So reading is, like, the most admirable way to pass the time for some reason. So that there's a lot more rules about it. And like you said, there's a lot of snootiness to it, and that's just not who Bria and I are. Every single time someone emails in and says, I had a kid, I went to grad school, whatever it is. And now. And it ruined my reading life. And I listened to reading glasses, and I was able to get back to it. I get wings. I have a lot of wings at this point. I can almost fly.

[B]

You're like a biblically accurate angel.

[A]

I'm so close. I get to go to heaven so soon. Jordan, it's great. Thousand wings, it's great. But, yeah, it's something that has become very important to us. I'm a high school dropout. You know, I'm quite an un.

[B]

I didn't know that about you.

[A]

Yeah, I'm a rough and tumble kind of gal.

[B]

Smoking in the alley, rolling dice.

[A]

I took a motorcycle to get here.

[B]

Loud through all my screaming fans.

[A]

Yeah, that's how I got in, actually.

[B]

Shira style. Yeah.

[A]

It's the only way I could.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

But it's. Yeah, it's something that's. I love reading so much and I just want more people to do it. Cause I think it can really improve your life. And there's so many people that feel that there's a barrier to entry. And so we wanted to take that ethos from reading glasses and bring it to reading Smut. Because a lot of people read those books and they're like. Well, they're. They're trash. They don't count. They're. They don't count because they're fun and they do. There's. They're still books. Even if they're. Some of them are quite bad, but they're still books and they're still fun. And you can read to improve your life, and you can read to increase empathy and make yourself smarter, but it is also just as valid to read to entertain yourself and have fun. And that's why we're here.

[B]

Reading Smut is so fun and interesting. I've done it twice.

[A]

Honestly, the last episode we did with you and Jesse was the funniest one we've ever done.

[B]

Oh, so much fun. The book was Queenie and the Krakens, about a woman who is a polycule with a merman biker gang.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

It's the greatest book ever written.

[A]

But you're missing the best part, Jordan. Is that the mermen, they're not just merman shifters, they're motorcycles. Shift as well, right?

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Into mer motorcycles. Murder cycles, if you will.

[B]

So hunky fishmen, magic motorcycles. This has it all.

[A]

Where else can you get stuff like this?

[B]

Tell me about interacting with glassers. In what ways do they shape the show with feedback?

[A]

I mean, that probably was and is my favorite part about reading glasses from the get go was that almost immediately we started getting just a massive amount of emails. And I still answer all the emails myself because we use so much listener feedback in the show. You know, we start the Start reading glasses off with listener feedback. We have. A lot of our segments are answering listener questions, answering recommendation requests. So I still answer all the emails, even though we get just a. I wish that they were real letters, like, because they would just come in. You know, those like. Like in cartoons when someone gets just, like, a bag full of fan mail. Yeah, I really miss that.

[B]

I. I feel like your listeners probably would write physical letters if you gave them a P.O. box.

[A]

They probably would actually, like, burn the

[B]

edges to make old timey.

[A]

I actually. I do that. I do have a wax seal.

[B]

Do you?

[A]

With an M on it.

[B]

That's great.

[A]

It is pretty cool.

[B]

Your own little taskmaster.

[A]

So we. We started getting so many emails right away, and we started incorporating them into the show, and because of that, it really shaped the show. And I. I love that. I think that's something that I love about podcasting the most, is that because we're. We're also both writers, so in writing, you can create something and you don't. It doesn't see fans for years sometimes, you know, but with podcasting, it's such an immediate. And, yeah, we're calling it an art form. Get ready.

[B]

We're elevated.

[A]

We're elevated. This is an elevated podcast.

[B]

It's basically opera. What we're doing is basic.

[A]

It's a lot of screaming.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. You know, sometimes I wear a little hat.

[A]

There's a lot of veils.

[B]

Veils, yeah.

[A]

But with podcasting, it's such an immediate thing. You. You can record it and put it out the next day if you want. Bria and I, we do batch our episodes. We record them two at a time, so it does take us a little bit. But if someone writes in or there's something we want to talk about, we can usually get an episode out within a month or so. And so right away, the fans started shaping the show with what they wanted to see. And it's really funny looking back on old episodes of reading glasses because we're nine years in right now. Next year is going to be the 10. What do you get for 10 years? Wood paper.

[B]

Sure. Silver.

[A]

I forget a horse. Oh, wow.

[B]

We're just going to bring each other

[A]

horses, honestly, into that.

[B]

The horse anniversary.

[A]

It's the horse year. There's definitely a smut book about this.

[B]

Oh, sure. I don't doubt it.

[A]

I saw a smut book the other day on our Instagram that said, save a horse, ride a cowman.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[A]

I was like, bria, damn, why didn't we do this one?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

But yeah, They've just shaped the show so much. And so early episodes of Reading Glasses were definitely. We were like, oh, we gotta do the history of this and we gotta do. And we stopped doing episodes, like, because we really focused in on the reading life aspect of it. Like, what's the best reading light to not wake your husband up when you want to sleep? When you're reading the middle of the night, what's the best snack that doesn't leave marks on the pages? We really started to learn.

[B]

We've discussed snacking while reading on the show before.

[A]

Yes. Very, very controversial subject. Yeah. The best one, if you need to know, is a gummy worm, but with no sour on it, no dust, just a nude gummy worm. Really good. No residue. How do you think your life has been changed by the listeners of your shows?

[B]

Oh, that's a really good question.

[A]

Thank you. I'm a podcaster.

[B]

Yes. I can tell. You've thrown me for a loop. I think that, like, when things seem dark, you know, when you.

[A]

He's about to burst into song.

[B]

Yeah. When things seem dark, you gotta talk and do your mic talking to your mind. Oh, boy.

[A]

The spotlight is gone on Jordan.

[B]

You know, when you pay attention to what's happening in the world, you're like, well, fuck, this sucks.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

I think. And I bet you agree that, like, the listeners we have cultivated now, are they as numerous as some other podcasts, maybe hosted by celebrities? They're not, but they are nice, lovely people. I mean, like, it is. It's nice. It's. Every time we hear from them, it's. It's like, it's a nice person who is probably cool, is probably a librarian.

[A]

Do you get it at signings? Do you get your listeners when you do book events and comic events?

[B]

Oh, let me tell you this, Mallory.

[A]

Tell it to me. Give it to me.

[B]

So 1. Always nice when people who know you from a podcast will follow you to other stuff.

[A]

Yes. Which not a lot of people do. It doesn't always translate.

[B]

It does not. But yeah, when people come out to a book event or check out a comic I wrote, that always feels really nice. And. Yeah, and it's interesting going to a comic con and, you know, you get a lot of intense people at cons, and I always find myself going, oh, thank God. This is a podcast listener.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

A podcast listener is the less weird

[A]

one in the room always. I have never done a book event where there were not reading glasses listeners. That's awesome.

[B]

That's really cool.

[A]

Not a single one. And it has become my security blanket. I'm like, you know what if no one got me? At least the glasses got me.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, that's been really nice. For sure.

[A]

It is so wonderful. Amazing. So are there any. Anything, like looking back over almost 18 years. I know that's. I mean, how many episodes? It's got to be a thousand.

[B]

We're in our boy, where are we Episode number wise. Let me check on that because we're

[A]

at 4, 40 something right now. And then however many bonus episodes. Is there anything that, like an ongoing joke or a particular podcast episode or just like a guess, like something that you remember that was really good or really funny and you're like, I'm proud of that.

[B]

Oh, yeah. So just to give some numbers, we just released episode 941.

[A]

Oh, my God. You're getting. What are you gonna do on the thousandth episode?

[B]

We're gonna pass away on Mike.

[A]

You're gonna get a horse.

[B]

We're gonna get a horse. Finally, a horse. And the horse is gonna host the show.

[A]

Moving forward, honestly. Give him some peanut butter.

[B]

That is a. Oh, yeah, that's great. It's gotta be pretty funny, honestly.

[A]

That's great.

[B]

So this is kind of interesting. So we've had some running jokes that have, like, almost been going on 20 years. This is like, you know, some very, very old running jokes. And one of the first ones was the. History's a little shaky on this one,

[A]

but I think as in shady or as you don't remember.

[B]

We don't remember that well. So someone will have to go to the tapes.

[A]

I wasn't sure if you were like, it's a little. Don't look too much.

[B]

It's a little shad.

[A]

Don't look too far into it.

[B]

Yeah, sure. Don't look into where we got the money to start the podcast. It was through drugs selling.

[A]

Noted peddler.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

Jordan Morris.

[B]

We don't do it anymore, but we

[A]

needed some startup capital, you know, after 17 years.

[B]

So we had these like stupid names, Chip Dipson and Dip Dobson, and we just thought they sounded funny.

[A]

They do.

[B]

They do sound funny. They're funny.

[A]

They're really good.

[B]

So we kind of like g those names to the listeners and said, what can you put that in? And so like, we've had like, you know, people name their pets that. So just people doing things with Chip Dipson and Dip Dobson.

[A]

It is so great.

[B]

And one of the, you know, one of the coolest things there is a great comics writer now, also a podcaster, Chris Hastings, and he Put Chip Dipson into a Marvel comic.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

So there's a Dr. Chip Dipson in an issue of Deadpool, I think, who, like, discovers this, like, alternate universe. So, like, on the Marvel Wiki, if you, like, search Chip Dipson. So something fun that happened recently. Wow. I've started writing some Marvel comics.

[A]

Pretty exciting stuff.

[B]

I got to put Dip Dobson into a Marvel comic.

[A]

Which one? In your Spider Man.

[B]

Web of Venom. Web of venom. Dr. Dip Dobson makes his first appearance.

[A]

Do you think Dip and Chip are ever gonna get to interact with each other?

[B]

I mean, we'll see. We'll see. That's the dream.

[A]

That's the dream.

[B]

That's the dream. That's the dream. I'm not like, geez, I would love. That would be great.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[B]

And just. Yeah. Just a weird culmination of a running podcast joke that no one can remember. The zenith of.

[A]

Wow. I actually. On the way to record this, I was talking to Bria because I said, there's so many. We were recently featured in the New York Times. Very exciting for reading glasses. And we've been getting a lot of new listeners, and there's so many running jokes we have on the show that I realized I was like, we should do a little intro episode, because people might not even know what we're talking about. And one of them is that we call our listeners Sarah's. Because one day, very early on in the show, I was looking at our inbox, and the first 20 or 15 emails were all from someone named Sarah.

[B]

No way.

[A]

We get so many Sarahs, we don't really know why. And so we just started calling them all Sarah. It is wild. But the other thing is, we started when listeners started to write in and give out cool book tips. We started to do a sort of, like, car talk hot book tip in the morning. Wee. Oo, wee. Ooh.

[B]

Right?

[A]

And then someone sent us a slide whistle, and it became a really important part of reading glasses.

[B]

That was live, people. If you're just listening to this, that was a live slide whistle.

[A]

I've been keeping a slide whistle in my pocket. I am happy to see Jordan. I'm always happy to see you too. Also keeping a slide whistle in my head.

[B]

Now I have to snack on this banana I brought with me.

[A]

Jordan, this was really fun.

[B]

I had the time of my life.

[A]

I would even say that we had maximum fun.

[B]

Yes. We finally done it. We've achieved maximum fun.

[A]

You're all getting a horse.

[B]

Everybody's getting a horse.

[A]

You're getting a horse. And you're getting a horse. And you are getting a horse.

[B]

Look under your seat. There's a horse. There might be dead. We have not been feeding them.

[A]

Imagine you look under a chair and there's just a horse face looking directly at. But. But if you're listening and you're enjoying, you're a fan of Jordan's or you're a fan of my shows and maybe your name is Sarah and you want to get in on this, you know where you can go where everyone's going to know your name.

[B]

Oh, yeah. MaximumFun.org join Baby, it's Maximum Fun Drive.

[A]

It's the best time of the year. We're doing all kinds of exciting stuff and we've been doing these shows for a long time. And the reason why we've been able to do them so long, Jordan, is because we have amazing members who support us.

[B]

That is the reason.

[A]

Yeah. All of our shows require a lot of time and effort. Improv classes, slide whistle purchases, bulkhorses. The amount of hay we have to buy, folks, is really putting us in the alpha.

[B]

Prices are going through the roof.

[A]

You think eggs are expensive?

[B]

Wait, at least sourcing some alfalfa.

[A]

Go to maxsonfun.org join sign up to support. Even on the $5 level, you really support us. You support the network, which is a co op and as far as we know, the only co op podcast network.

[B]

Yeah, it's really nice to be doing a podcast for not a giant evil company.

[A]

Yeah. Especially when a lot of our listeners are writing in saying, how do. I don't want to support Amazon, I don't want to support this. What do I do? It feels like everybody is evil. One place you can count on to not be evil is maximum fun.

[B]

No evil here. Yes.

[A]

There's too many horses. We don't have room for evil.

[B]

Exactly. MaximumFun.org join yeah, like Mallory said, five bucks a month goes a long, long way. There are other levels you can give at if you're feeling sassy. But five bucks a month is awesome. We love it. We'll take it it and you get a bunch of bonus stuff.

[A]

And a free horse.

[B]

And a free horse. Free horse may not. You have to do one of those fast disclaimers. The free horse is a joke. That's a bit we were doing. And you want to get a horse. Member fdic.

[A]

Thank you folks. And Happy Max Fun Drive.

[B]

Happy Max Fun Drive.

[A]

Maximum Fun.

[B]

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