Ep 406 - Dumb Butts - Pick a Book Based on the Title!

Summary

Reading Glasses Podcast Episode Summary

Episode: Ep 406 - Dumb Butts - Pick a Book Based on the Title!
Release Date: April 10, 2025
Hosts: Brea Grant and Mallory O'Meara

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Introduction and Episode Overview

In Episode 406 of Reading Glasses, hosts Brea Grant and Mallory O’Meara delve into a variety of engaging topics tailored for avid readers. This episode features a mix of personal reading updates, listener feedback, interactive challenges, and thoughtful discussions on navigating bookish dilemmas. The primary theme centers around the "Pick a Book Based on the Title" challenge, encouraging listeners to select books solely based on intriguing or amusing titles.

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Current Reads and Listening Selections

Bria Grant and Mallory O’Meara kick off the episode by sharing their current literary pursuits:

• Bria’s Selection:
  Bria is engrossed in Everything is Tuberculosis: The History and Persistence of Our Deadliest Infection by John Green, highlighting its deep dive into the pervasive impact of tuberculosis on various facets of society. She notes, “He constantly is bringing up tuberculosis... It shapes the way we see the world” (00:56).

• Mallory’s Selection:
  Mallory is participating in the Trans Rights Readathon, currently reading Woodworking by Emily St. James. She describes it as a heartwarming narrative about a trans teacher forming a meaningful friendship with a trans teenage girl in a small town (02:56).

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Listener Feedback and Community Engagement

The hosts take time to appreciate listener contributions, sharing heartfelt stories and valuable resources:

• Abby’s Speed Dating Story:
  Abby recounts her experience at a fantasy-themed bookstore speed dating event, expressing disappointment that none of the attendees shared her literary interests. Mallory empathetically responds, “I really get this. And this would make me so grumpy” (05:52).

• Sage’s Recommendation - Romance IO:
  Sage introduces Romance IO, a website offering spice ratings for romance novels, which Bria enthusiastically endorses. She explains, “You can look up any romance and some non-romance books and it'll give you a Spice rating out of five... It’s a game changer for me” (06:21).

• Ashley’s Reading Glasses Challenge Success:
  Ashley shares her triumph in completing the Les Misérables reading challenge by adopting a disciplined approach of reading one chapter per day. She credits the Reading Glasses Challenge for enhancing her reading experience: “It has been the exact prompt I needed to make it through Les Mis” (07:30).

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"Pick a Book Based on the Title" Challenge

A central feature of this episode is the introduction and exploration of the "Pick a Book Based on the Title" challenge. The hosts discuss the rules and benefits of selecting books purely on their titles as a means to diversify reading habits and discover unexpected gems.

Key Points Discussed:

• Rules of the Challenge:

  • “You do not have to finish the book. All you have to do is try.” - Mallory (13:31)
  • Selecting a book based solely on its title without prior knowledge of its content or author.

• Benefits:

  • Encourages exploration beyond familiar genres and authors.
  • Sparks curiosity and a sense of adventure in reading choices.

• Hosts’ Approaches:

  • Bria plans to select a book from her To-Be-Read (TBR) list based on intriguing titles like The Spirit Collection of Thornhall.
  • Mallory shares her history of choosing books by title and the excitement it brings, citing examples such as The Library of the Dead and My Sister the Serial Killer (15:25).

• Notable Quotes:

  • Bria: “It is fun to just go like, okay, good title. I'm gonna start it.” (15:05)
  • Mallory: “It's an intriguing way to branch out a little and try something new.” (14:34)

The hosts also entertain the idea of listeners participating by sending book titles for Bria to choose from, adding an interactive layer to the challenge.

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Solving a Bookish Problem: Reading Graphic Novels in Public

The episode addresses a listener's query about the appropriateness and etiquette of reading graphic novels with explicit content in public spaces, such as airplanes.

Listener's Question:
Tim Wrightson asks, “Is it okay to read graphic novels on a plane where several people can see the content clearly?” (26:00)

Hosts’ Advice:

• Mallory’s Perspective:
  Emphasizes personal comfort levels and the discretion needed when reading potentially explicit material around children or in confined public spaces. She suggests practical solutions like adjusting font size to minimize visibility (31:14).

• Bria’s Perspective:
  Acknowledges the importance of respecting others’ comfort while asserting that reading behavior shouldn’t impose on others. She humorously advises, “Maybe they like it. Like, maybe, like, you should enjoy this. This sexy comic.” (27:30)

• Key Takeaways:

  • Discretion is Key: Ensure that explicit content isn’t easily visible to unintended viewers, especially children.
  • Respect Public Spaces: Consider the setting and the potential audience before choosing reading material.
  • Personal Comfort: Ultimately, prioritize your own comfort while being mindful of those around you.

Notable Quotes:

• Mallory: “Don’t make yourself uncomfortable is what we’re saying.” (32:25)
• Bria: “Use your discretion... Keep to yourself.” (28:15)

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Book Recommendation Request: Supporting a Spouse Facing Cancer

A heartfelt segment where a listener, Rachel, seeks book recommendations to support her spouse who is battling cancer. She specifies a preference for "Hope Punk" books—stories centered around inherent goodness and positivity.

Rachel’s Request:
“My beloved spouse of eight years is facing what may turn out to be a battle with cancer... I want to read books with the idea of goodness at their core. Hope Punk.” (33:00)

Hosts’ Recommendations:

• Bria’s Suggestion:
  Recommends Beginning at the End by Mike Chen, describing it as a post-pandemic hopeful narrative about rebuilding society and forming meaningful relationships. Bria notes, “It has an element of adventure and is a found family positive book.” (34:11)

• Mallory’s Suggestion:
  Suggests Exit West by Mohsen Hameedi, a magical realism novel that tells the story of a couple in a war-torn Middle Eastern country who discover magical doors that allow them to escape to different parts of the world. Mallory praises its themes of love, hope, and resilience: “It’s literally about a couple in this very terrifying situation having hope and getting through it.” (35:15)

Notable Quotes:

• Bria: “Mike Chen has a ton of books in the hope punk genre... You can’t really go wrong in a nice way.” (34:14)
• Mallory: “It is really beautiful and... it's such a great book.” (35:56)

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Conclusion and Community Engagement

The episode wraps up with the hosts encouraging listeners to engage with the podcast community:

• Newsletter and Book Lists:
  Listeners can sign up for the Reading Glasses newsletter to receive monthly book recommendations and updates.

• Merchandise Support:
  Brea and Mallory mention their Void merch store, highlighting that purchases support them directly, allowing them to continue creating content and caring for their pets.

• Call to Action:
  The hosts urge listeners to rate and review the podcast to help expand their audience and foster a growing community of “glassers.”

Notable Closing Remark:
Mallory shares her appreciation, “Thanks for reading and supporting the show.” (36:46)

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• “You continue picking a book based on the title and see if you like it.” - Mallory O’Meara (14:01)
• “This is a fun experiment for me as a person who likes spoilers.” - Bria Grant (15:14)
• “You don’t have to finish the book. All you have to do is try.” - Mallory O’Meara (13:51)
• “If you're next to a child and you're reading an illustrated Kama Sutra... don’t do that.” - Bria Grant (27:33)
• “Don't make yourself uncomfortable is what we’re saying.” - Mallory O’Meara (32:25)

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This episode of Reading Glasses offers a blend of personal anecdotes, community involvement, and practical challenges designed to enrich listeners’ reading lives. From tackling speed dating mishaps to navigating the nuances of public reading, Bria and Mallory provide insightful and relatable content for book enthusiasts seeking to expand their literary horizons.

Transcript

[Mallory O'Meara]

You're listening to Reading Glasses, a show about book culture and literary life designed to help you read better. I'm author and book devourer Mallory O'Meara.

[Bria Grant]

And I'm Bria Grant, filmmaker and e reader. This episode, we're ticking off another box on the 2025 reading glasses. Glasses classes challenge pick a book based on the title. Plus, we solve a problem about reading graphic novels in public. Not graphic novels, but graphic.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Graphic. Graphic novels.

[Bria Grant]

Graphic. Graphic novel. And we are recommending some hope punk books.

[Mallory O'Meara]

But first, Bria, what are you reading?

[Bria Grant]

I am listening to, you know, in our anticipated books episode, I said I'm gonna read this book. And now I'm reading it, which is, you know, I promise I delivered. And listening to everything is Tuberculosis, the history and persistence of our Deadliest Infection by John Green.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I'm still waiting for it from the library.

[Bria Grant]

I got it from. I'm listening to it. I got it from Libro fm.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Oh, our influencer arcs.

[Bria Grant]

No, I just. No, it wasn't on there. I think I purchased it. I bought it because I was excited about the title, which I didn't know understand until I started reading. The book is basically John Green, who is an. He's a fiction writer, is a nonfiction writer, kind of does both. He constantly is bringing up tuberculosis. And his wife was like, you think everything is tuberculosis? And so he named his book Everything is Tuberculosis.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I love that.

[Bria Grant]

But it actually is like. He's like. It's everything from the reason we have cowboy hats to what? All these. All these, like, little micro history stories which are really fascinating. But the thing about tuberculosis is that it kills more people every year than any other infectious disease. Minus 2020, when we had Covid, the first year of COVID And even after the first year of COVID it went back to being the number one killer in the world. And he. He does a lot of activism and work with various countries where it is a huge problem. Particularly he works in Sierra Leone, but he goes through and sort of does a history of tuberculosis, how it's affected everything from. I mean, literally, it's. Everything is tuberculosis, from beauty standards to art to influencing racism and classism. All. All of these fascinating ways in which tuberculosis has really shaped the way we see the world. And it also follows this one kid who he has made friends with in Sierra Leone and sort of telling the story through this child. He's like 17, but looks like he's like 8 or 9.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Because of tuberculosis.

[Bria Grant]

Because of tuberculosis. Cause he got it when he was young and he didn't grow in. In the way that. That he would have if he hadn't got tuberculosis. It is fascinating and at a time when we're cutting a lot of budgets for overseas help for this kind of thing, and we really don't want to have a major amount of tuberculosis here. I think this is a very important book.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Is this your science book for the reading glasses? No.

[Bria Grant]

I guess it might be. I have a couple other books on my list, but this one, yeah, I think this will be our. My science book. That's a good call. I do like a disease book. It maybe should be on my.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Bria loves disease, Famously loves disease, loves disease.

[Bria Grant]

I like a disease book and this one is a great one. What are you reading?

[Mallory O'Meara]

We are in the middle of the trans rights readathon right now and I pulled some. Some fun books by trans authors with trans protagonists and this one just came out. So I am reading woodworking by Emily St. James, I believe.

[Bria Grant]

Oh, I want to read this.

[Mallory O'Meara]

It's way good. It's her debut novel and it's like it's about this woman. She is 35 years old. She just got divorced. She's like. She's trans, but she hasn't come out yet. She's working as a high school teacher in the small town in South Dakota. And all of a sudden teen this new. I think I can't remember if the teen like transfers in or like they find they like this girl comes into her class but she's like out as a trans teenage girl and she's like really punky and really like in your face. And she's just like. She's just like, like that cool. No one doesn't give a kind of a high school girl. And so the teacher is like kind of shyly like trying to be friends with her and like, so she can ask her like, what do I do? And the. It's really funny because the. The teenager girl. The girl is like, fine, I don't want to be your trans guide, but I'll help you. And it's like there' op one of the opening scenes with them is like her. The. The teenager goes in to buy nail polish for her. She. The teacher doesn't want to be seen buying nail polish at the. Because it's a small town, right? Want to be seen by nail polish at the pharmacy. So the two of them like form this friendship like trying to learn about like teach each other and learn about life and like. And all like. But they, they don't want to come under too much scrutiny in the community. It's just like, it's so. It's very funny and very heartwarming and just like feels very real for right now. And I' so happy that it came out in time for the trans rights readathon.

[Bria Grant]

I love that.

[Mallory O'Meara]

So I'm reading woodworking by Emily St.

[Bria Grant]

James and I'm listening to Everything Is Tuberculosis by John Green, and it's read by John Green.

[Mallory O'Meara]

So I want to take a moment to share some listener feedback. Abby wrote in to say hi Bri and Mallory. I am a huge fan of your podcast and have been listening for years now. I recently listened to Mallory talk about her dating app experiences and wanted to share a dating story of my own.

[Bria Grant]

Okay.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Oh my God, I love this email. Also, I just want to. I appreciate the glasses being very invested in my. In my love life.

[Bria Grant]

It's lovely.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I love all of you so much. I attended a speed dating event at a local fantasy themed bookstore. I thought since it was being held at a bookstore that the men attending would be more my type. I was wrong. Over half the men attending had never even been to the bookstore before.

[Bria Grant]

What a great way to get them into the bookstore.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Or, I mean, sure. But I would be. If I was Abby. I would be very grumpy about this. Abby says, when I describe my favorite type of book as a mystery with a romantic subplot, giving examples such as Emily Wilde's Encyclopedia of Fairies in the Veronica Speedwell series, I was met with blank expressions. Not one of the men had ever read either of these books or understood what I meant by my description. Needless to say, I left without matching with anyone. I can laugh at this experience now, but at the time, it was disheartening to realize that not a single one of these men shared my love of reading. Oh well, maybe I would be. I would be the same way.

[Bria Grant]

Maybe one of those men went home and got those books.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I hope so. But still, I get it. This would make me so grumpy. And even though I have now I have hwb, I'm not currently on the market, on the bookish market. I really get this. And this would make me so. Oh, I'd be so.

[Bria Grant]

Yeah, that's pretty infuriating.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Especially at a bookstore. Like, also, I don't know, you haven't heard of horny fairy books. Everybody's talking about horny fairy books. Come on, Abby. I sympathize with you. I really get it.

[Bria Grant]

Sage wrote in and said, hi, Brian. Mallory. I was listening to episode 392 where y'all talked about how you wish there were a rating system for Spice in books. While I don't know of anything official from Publishers, Shares is a website that provides exactly this Romance IO did you know about this?

[Mallory O'Meara]

We have talked about this on the show a really long years and years ago. Someone was looking for a way to tell whether a book was closed or open door and we did talk about this, but I wanted to put that because a bunch of people wrote in about this and I wanted to kind of have a refresher, especially since we're talking about romance a lot more than we did a few years ago.

[Bria Grant]

As an ace person who does not enjoy spicy scenes in romance novels, but loves a cute, cozy romance, this website is a game changer for me. You can look up any romance and some non romance books and it'll give you a Spice rating out of five from no sexual content even off the page. That's a one. Up to multiple explicit scenes, possibly with kinky content, that's a five. It also lists romance tropes like Grumpy Sunshine, Love Triangle and more. Plus there are some content warnings included at the bottom. Anytime I see a romance that I'm interested in, I look it up first on this site and it's helped me so much with the warning content that would take me out of a book. Hopefully this can help someone else with their romance adventures. That's great. Romance IO I love this website.

[Mallory O'Meara]

This helped me a lot when we were doing yeah we should maybe do it like a book text whole segment on it because I I use this a lot when we did the the Max Fund Drive personalized recommendations because a lot of people were looking for Closed Door and I'm a little pervert and almost every romance novel that I own is Open Door. So I I was checking all of my recs on Romance IO to make sure that it was closed door. Very, very helpful. Ashley wrote in to say hello Mallory and Bria. I wanted to write in about my experience reading Les miserables for the 2025 reading glasses years. I've been saying this is the year I'm finally going to read Les Mis. Okay. But then I never do. Thanks to the Reading Glasses Challenge, though, I'm actually doing it. When the 2025 Reading Glasses Challenge was announced, I was skeptical that I would enjoy or get anything out of the prompt to read a book slowly as I am typically a book devourer and I was worried that I would either get bored or forget the plot. Plus I am just not a very patient person lol however, this has been the exact prompt I needed to make it through Les Mis. The book has 365 chapters, most of which are only a few pages, so I committed to reading one chapter a day and making the book last for the who year. So far I am loving the experience. To make a good thing even better, I joined a read along on Storygraph so I can discuss the book as I go with other users doing the one chapter a day plan shout out to kind souls that organized the read along because they even made a reading schedule. Wow. And a daily chapter Google Calendar to keep us all organized. Having an online community to dissect the book with as I go has been extra fun and has really helped me engage with the text. To my great surprise and unhappiness, I have had no trouble remembering the plot or getting bored. I feel like I'm just really soaking it in and reading my daily chapter is always a nice pick me up. As a nice bonus, I am checking off three Reading Glasses Challenge items with one book. Read a honker, read the oldest book on my tbr and of course read a book slowly. Obviously I should never have doubted that the RG Challenge would improve my reading life. Thank you both for all you do. So many people are getting the most out of reading because of you. That is so lovely.

[Bria Grant]

Okay, we have to repost this reading schedule because it is whoever made this.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Is just so cool.

[Bria Grant]

First of all, great at spreadsheets. Second of all, look, there are people.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Out there in the reading world that are. That are angels among us.

[Bria Grant]

Yeah, it's really impressive what they did. It's all five volumes starting January 1st ending December 31st.

[Mallory O'Meara]

God.

[Bria Grant]

And it's, it's exactly what you should be reading to finish this book.

[Mallory O'Meara]

So cool.

[Bria Grant]

Amazing.

[Mallory O'Meara]

So you can email us at reading glasses podcast gmail.com if you want a list of all the books we talk about on the show delivered to your inbox every month. You can sign up for our newsletter. There's a link in the show notes. And before we tick off a box on the 2025 Reading Glasses Challenge, we're going to take a quick break. Reading Glasses is brought to you in part this week by Pear Eyewear. Folks, it is springtime. We are changing up our looks. We are cleaning up our houses. We are getting rid of things. We are making our world a little more vibrant, a little more nice after this long, cold winter. And you know how you can refresh your look for spring? It's with Pear Eyewear. They have three new colorways for their most iconic base frames. Folks, Pear Eyewear has been a long time sponsor of the show. We love them. I literally wear my Pear Eyewear eyeglasses all the time. They have so many cool collaborations. Obviously my favorite is the NHL hockey collaboration, so I can wear my Washington Capitals glasses. Especially since we're going to the playoffs. So exciting. It's the best time of year to support hockey. But they have all kinds of other incredible collections. They have their premium collection. They have sun tops, which I also have. They have sparkle ones. They have classic colors if you don't want anything too fancy. But they also have Disney ones, Marvel ones, Star Wars. Folks, almost anything that you can think of that you're a fan of. Pear Eyewear has eyeglasses for them. It's so easy to switch them out. It's just magnets. You could change your top frames every five minutes if you wanted to. They're so easy to use. They're so fun. That means that you can wear different top frames for when you're at work. Change them out for after work. If you go to a concert, if you go to a game, if you are wearing a cool outfit with a particular color in it and you want glasses to match, Pear Eyewear has got you covered and they're really budget friendly. It is so affordable to change up your look. If you're just getting whole glasses from somewhere else, you're gonna have to pay a lot of money. But with Pear Eyewear, you can change your glasses look with new top frames starting at just 25. They have a bunch of different types of frames. They have durable acetate frames. What I love is that they have different widths. I have a big old face. I need wide frame glasses. They've got you covered. Any size face you've got, pair can put glasses on it. The base frame start at just $60. Top fr just 25. Free shipping on US orders. You can also save with pre tax FSA and HSA dollars. Folks, it's springtime. Why not try it? Go look at the top frames. Look at the colors, look at the patterns, look at the collaborations. You know you want a new look for spring so you can upgrade how you see the world and how the world sees you. Go to Pair Eyewear.com and use code GLASSES for 15 off your first pair and support the show by mentioning reading glasses sent you in your post checkout survey. That's pair P A I R I wear.com code glasses glasses doctor game shows. A podcast where we play games.

[Bria Grant]

Submitted by listeners with callers from all around the world. And this is a game to get you to listen.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Name three reasons to listen to Dr. Game Show.

[Bria Grant]

Kyla and lunar rum, freedom, Maine dishes.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Folding the laundry. Doing cat grooming.

[Bria Grant]

Okay, thank you. Great.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Oh, Things you could do while listening.

[Bria Grant]

Yeah, I love that the re. I'm like, why do you listen to this show? And Lunar's like, dishes.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Fantastic.

[Bria Grant]

Manolo number one is that it'll inspire you. You're gonna be like, oh, I could do that. That's all we have time for. But you'll just have to find Dr. Game show on Maximum fun to find out for yourself.

[Mallory O'Meara]

This week, we're ticking off another box on the 2025 reading glasses. Glasses. Glasses, Glasses. Challenge. Pick a book based on the title. Why did we put this on the challenge? How are we completing it? And most importantly, how can it improve your reading life? First off, very important for the classers, the rules, folks. You do not have to finish the book. All you have to do is try. You just pick a.

[Bria Grant]

Pick it.

[Mallory O'Meara]

It's pick a book based on the title. It's not finish a book based on the title. So just pick a book. You can read a page, hate it, and you're done. Nothing else. All right, Bria, why did we put this on the challenge?

[Bria Grant]

Well, it's fun.

[Mallory O'Meara]

It is fun. We love a silly thing.

[Bria Grant]

It is. And last year we did pick a book based on the COVID that we had a lot of fun with. Plus, I love a good title.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I know you do. You actually, I thought about you with this. You really love a fun.

[Bria Grant]

I love a fun time. A fun title can get me reading a book really quickly. So this is fun for me to just to pick a book, but I think it's just a fun. It's a fun challenge and it maybe will get you out of going and doing all that research and like, should I read this book? What. What is the. What are all the ratings? What do the reviews say? Instead of doing all that, you just pick it and see if you like it.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Yeah. Love it. So how do we think this can improve your reading life? It is a fun way to branch out a little and try something new. Maybe even surprise yourself with a book you normally wouldn't pick up. But the title is intriguing to you, and so. And the cool thing about doing this is that right away you're intrigued about something in the conte of the book. I think that's what's fun about this particular thing. You immediately want to know something about the plot or the characters of the setting. There's something that it. Because you're you. Even if it's like, a silly title, you're like, well, why is it called that? I need to know.

[Bria Grant]

Yeah.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Have you ever done this before? We did put this on the challenge.

[Bria Grant]

Like we said, I'm a sucker for a good title. So I. I do pick up books based on the title. I probably wouldn't read it without actually reading what it's about. So this is a fun experiment for me as a person who likes spoilers. It's hard for me to jump in and read because I do want to know what it's about. But there's something fun to me about. About just going like, okay, good title. I'm gonna start it. And, like, I'm. So that's what I'm planning on doing. I haven't done this yet.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I'm.

[Bria Grant]

This one I'm planning on doing is. I don't know anything about the book. I just know the title, and I'm gonna start reading it. What about you? Have you ever done this?

[Mallory O'Meara]

Absolutely. I think it's because I'm a plot reader. Oh.

[Bria Grant]

Yeah.

[Mallory O'Meara]

And I love a title that immediately makes me go, oh, and are you.

[Bria Grant]

Reading what the plots about, or you're not reading what the plot's about?

[Mallory O'Meara]

No, I wouldn't. I went in cold on this one. So I. Before I talk about the book I picked for this, I. I did look at my bookshelves, and there's a bunch of books that I did this. This with, and I knew nothing about them. So that time I got drunk and saved a demon.

[Bria Grant]

Great.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I bought before it even came out from orbit at the rip bodice, because I was like, what? What? I have to know.

[Bria Grant]

Funny. Good title.

[Mallory O'Meara]

The Library of the Dead.

[Bria Grant]

Great.

[Mallory O'Meara]

My Sister the Serial Killer.

[Bria Grant]

Great title.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Southern Book Club's Guide to Slaying Vampires. I'm gonna say I don't know if.

[Bria Grant]

That counts, because you already liked Grady.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I know. Well, but I didn't know what the book was about. But the title says it all.

[Bria Grant]

Yeah, but you're not picking it based on the title. You're picking it based on the fact that it's Grady and the title.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I guess that's.

[Bria Grant]

That's.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I would. But.

[Bria Grant]

But I would encourage people to, like, think outside of, like. Because if somebody already know. I just think you should think about, like, try to find something you literally know nothing about to really push yourself.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Okay.

[Bria Grant]

That's. That's my thought.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I. Well, I did pick an author that I know, but it's I didn't know anything about the plot. Well, Mallory, maybe I'll do multiple. Well, I also was gonna say this body isn't big enough for the both.

[Bria Grant]

Great title.

[Mallory O'Meara]

What a great title.

[Bria Grant]

Good title.

[Mallory O'Meara]

All right, so you have not completed this yet. Do you have some stuff in the running?

[Bria Grant]

I'm gonna throw some titles at you. If you read them, they are disqualified. But I want you to tell me which one you think sounds the most interesting, and I'm gonna read it based on the title. I'm not gonna know anything about it. Okay, you don't know anything about it. I. Only ones you don't know anything about. You might know all these, but. Okay, here's books that are on my tbr. I can't remember why I put them on there, so I feel like they count. You ready?

[Mallory O'Meara]

Okay.

[Bria Grant]

Serial killer, Support group.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Pretty good.

[Bria Grant]

Death Takes Me. I think it's a good title. We Live on the Horizon.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I like that.

[Bria Grant]

Good one. Everything Must Go. Stories we Tell about the End of the world.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Okay.

[Bria Grant]

And the spirit collection of Thornhall.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Ooh, that's my favorite one. Because I want to know what a spirit collection is.

[Bria Grant]

Do you know anything about that book?

[Mallory O'Meara]

Nope. But I want to know what a spirit collection is.

[Bria Grant]

Okay, I'm going to read it. I'm bolding it right now. And I will get it from the library. That will be the book I'm going to read for this particular one, the spirit collection.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I'm literally looking at my Libby holds right now to see if any of these books I just put on because of the.

[Bria Grant]

Because of the title.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Because of the title.

[Bria Grant]

Okay, I'm placing a hold on spirit collection right now. It is by. I don't even know who it was by. It's by J. Ann Thomas. And I'm not going to read what it's about. I'm just going to try to read it. What are you going to do? So you're going to go try. You're going to do the same thing?

[Mallory O'Meara]

Yeah, I'm going through my Libby holds right now.

[Bria Grant]

Read some titles and not.

[Mallory O'Meara]

The problem is.

[Bria Grant]

The problem is I looked at the covers and I was trying not to look at the covers.

[Mallory O'Meara]

These are all authors that I. That I know.

[Bria Grant]

But in the Libby collection, there's no authors you don't know in the Libby collection.

[Mallory O'Meara]

No, but I. The problem is I know so much about books.

[Bria Grant]

You didn't know the spirit hall one.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I know.

[Bria Grant]

Do you read that one?

[Mallory O'Meara]

Maybe I will. Well, so I was going to do. So my friend, Chuck Wendig mailed me an arc of his new book, and all I knew was the new Chuck Wendig. But I opened it up, and I saw that it was called Staircase in the Woods. And I was like, this is perfect, because I don't know anything about it.

[Bria Grant]

Sure.

[Mallory O'Meara]

All that I know is that there's a staircase in the woods. And now look, if you want to.

[Bria Grant]

Count it, I think it's fine. I just think that you could push yourself because you know you're gonna like it because it's Chuck Windy.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I know, but I was like, why is that staircase in the woods? Where did it come from? Where does it go? Where does it lead? And I was not disappointed. It was great. I think it's my. In my best of the year so far, but. But okay.

[Bria Grant]

I do want to read that one.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I will push myself to an author. I mean, that's a new. A different level of the challenge, though, is a book you. It has to be an author that you've never read before.

[Bria Grant]

I think. Well, I think if it's someone, like, maybe you've read. But I. I don't know. You're right. That is a little bit different. So maybe I'm pushing this a little too far.

[Mallory O'Meara]

But maybe we're doing hard mode.

[Bria Grant]

We are doing hard mode. But, yeah, I think that's right. There's easy mode where it's like, oh, it's an author that you like that also has a title. That's interesting. But I think there's something interesting about picking out a book that you don't know anything about. You just read the title. For me, it's easy because I have such a horrible memory that I've added all these to my TBR and I don't want to remember.

[Mallory O'Meara]

That's my problem is, like, my one superpower on this on God's green Earth, is that I as like, I have an encyclopedic knowledge of books that I've heard of. Like, I remember every book that I've heard of. I remember the COVID like, I do.

[Bria Grant]

You want me to send you a list that you may not have heard of?

[Mallory O'Meara]

Wow.

[Bria Grant]

I can do it. I'll send you a list.

[Mallory O'Meara]

But I do the. We're bringing the anticipated books episodes back. It's going to be so hard for me.

[Bria Grant]

I'm gonna send you ones that maybe you haven't heard of, though.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Bria's gonna send me a book wrapped up in black.

[Bria Grant]

These books are all out that I just named.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Oh, yeah.

[Bria Grant]

Like, this Death takes me. That seems Like a Mallory book.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I know, but the spirit collection seems very interesting.

[Bria Grant]

Maybe we should both read this spirit collection book.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Oh, but now, okay, you want to look it up.

[Bria Grant]

That's the problem. You just gotta read it.

[Mallory O'Meara]

But how am I gonna get it without looking it up?

[Bria Grant]

You just add it to your. Your library list.

[Mallory O'Meara]

But then I'm gonna see the COVID.

[Bria Grant]

This is a tough challenge, I think.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I think we're being too hard about it, I think, because you. Because if you're going to get it from Libby, you're going to see who the author is. You're going cover. You buy in a bookstore. You're gonna. You can't walk in with your eyes closed and be like, hand me this book, please.

[Bria Grant]

But I. That's true. But I, I, I definitely went through. I tried to just look at the titles. I tried to, like, ignore.

[Mallory O'Meara]

You're doing extreme mode on this.

[Bria Grant]

I am, because I was like, well, I just want to see. Because obviously I do pick a lot of books based on the title, honestly. But yeah, I just think there's ones like the new Grady Henders has a terrific title, but I know I'm gonna like it because I would pick it because it's pretty. He could also name it, like, dumb. Dumb Butts. And I would. I'd be like, I'm gonna read it anyway. Dumb Butts, the Grady Hendrix book. I'm gonna pitch that to him.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Imagine in, like, a cool font. I know.

[Bria Grant]

It would be like. Exactly. It would look cool.

[Mallory O'Meara]

That's the problem. It's got, like, a matte cover, like, with the dumb butts. It's, like, is embossed on the Dumb Butts by Grady Hendrix. Grady, that's for you. That's free. Yeah, you can have that.

[Bria Grant]

That's a good pitch.

[Mallory O'Meara]

All right, I'll pick another one. But I think I do. You have to look at the COVID to get it.

[Bria Grant]

Yeah, but pick it based on the title instead of the COVID Okay. I think you can know, like, this is more of a time I'm gonna.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Have to pick it now before I start doing in the anticipated books episodes.

[Bria Grant]

Okay.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Wow.

[Bria Grant]

You know what's a real challenge for you?

[Mallory O'Meara]

I'll. Okay, I think we should. I think for listeners, you should be able to see the COVID even if you know that. Like, even if you know the author. That's fine. I think for you and I, who are maybe in a need to do hard mode, I'm gonna let you pick this out for me, Bria. Okay.

[Bria Grant]

You can send me to be from this year.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I know. No, I know.

[Bria Grant]

So you could go to your TBR from, like, years ago and be like, I don't remember what this book is.

[Mallory O'Meara]

But the title from the time we did this podcast. I mean, you know, Bria, that's like my superpower.

[Bria Grant]

I know.

[Mallory O'Meara]

It is tough. People can tell me the. A scrap of something about a book, and I'll be like, but remember that time we were driving around and you were like, it's a book that takes place in a castle. And I was like, is the Keep by Jennifer Egan? And you were like, yes. So I think. What. I think you should do this for me. You should send me a selection.

[Bria Grant]

Okay.

[Mallory O'Meara]

And I will pick from there.

[Bria Grant]

Okay.

[Mallory O'Meara]

And we'll see how it goes.

[Bria Grant]

Okay. I can do that.

[Mallory O'Meara]

And I think if listeners want to try to have a friend, this would be a fun thing to do with a friend.

[Bria Grant]

Yeah, that's right.

[Mallory O'Meara]

But I think the normal, regular way to do this part of the challenge is just, even if you know the author, just pick, because there's some authors that you might want to not. I mean, obviously I love every Chuck Wendig book that comes out because he's incredible. He's one of my favorite horror authors. But sometimes authors come out with books that you don't like, so it's true.

[Bria Grant]

But if you're going to read it anyway, I just am like, I don't know if that's the ch. That's a challenge.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Okay.

[Bria Grant]

That's what I'm saying.

[Mallory O'Meara]

All right, well, Bria is going to super challenge me, okay. And just send me a shuterie board of book titles.

[Bria Grant]

I'll send you some good ones and you. And maybe you'll know some of them and then they. Disqualified.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Okay, no space books. Actually, you know what? It. Maybe it might be space book. Okay, let's go wild. Let's go buck wild on this one.

[Bria Grant]

Okay?

[Mallory O'Meara]

All right. What if there's a book called Dumb Butts? Dumb Butts.

[Bria Grant]

I just typed in Dumb Butts the book.

[Mallory O'Meara]

There's not.

[Bria Grant]

I'm. I'm. I'm trademarking that. I'm going to take. I'm going to.

[Mallory O'Meara]

We're going to write the Dumb Butts book. Well, because there is Butts by Heather Radcliffe. Yeah, radke. But those are regular butts, not dumb.

[Bria Grant]

But not dumb ones.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Folks, we are recording this on the last day of the Max Fun Drive, and we are so tired, and so we have lost all sanity. We are completely deranged. And we still have to do more. We have to still have to do multiple live things. After this, we do Dumb Butts. The book by Bria Grant Mallory Omar. That's our secret. That's the next book after the no pressure Book journal. Anyway, send your thoughts toreading glasses podcastmail.com. tell us what you're going to do for this challenge before we saw or you know what. Know what, Glassers? Send me a title with no author attached and I will. I could pick from there.

[Bria Grant]

Great.

[Mallory O'Meara]

A book you want me to read? Email it to reading glasses podcast gmail.com. just send me a title.

[Bria Grant]

No authors though.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Just raw dog it. No, no author, no book cover, nothing. Just send me a title.

[Bria Grant]

Okay.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Matchmaker, matchmaker, make me a match.

[Bria Grant]

Get. Give, give. You have to give us an update on the next episode.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Yes, I'll do that.

[Bria Grant]

I'll send you some too.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Okay. Oh, this is. This is. You know what? I'm kind of excited about this now. This is fun. Before we solve a problem about reading graphic novels in public, we're going to take a quick break. Reading Glasses is brought to you in part this week by Zocdoc. Folks, have you ever woken up one day with some kind of weird symptom? Maybe your eye is swollen, you got a weird looking rash, you got a pain somewhere, you immediately googled it. You searched the Internet to see what's wrong. You found a million different answers. We've all done it, but sometimes you need a real professional. And you know who's going to help you find that is zocdoc. Zocdoc is a free app and website where you can search and compare high quality in network doctors and click to instantly book an appointment. You can filter for doctors who take your insurance. They're located nearby, are a good fit for any medical need you might have, and are highly rated by verified patients. And once you find the right doctor, you can see their actual appointment openings. Choose a time slot that works for you and and click to instantly book a visit. Folks, we all know how much of a pain booking a doctor's visit is, especially if it's a new doctor. You haven't seen them before. I cannot even tell you how many hours of my life have gone down the drain trying to find a doctor that was in my network nearby, still alive, still practicing. It is so frustrating. And Zocdoc takes all that frustration away. It is so easy to use. So stop putting off those doctor's appointments and go to Zocdoc.com glasses to find and instantly book a top rated doctor today. That's z o c-o c.com glasses zocdoc.com glasses glasses. Say you like video games, and who doesn't? I mean, some people probably don't, okay? But a lot of people do. So say you're one of those people and you feel like you don't really have anyone to talk to about the games that you like. Well, you should get some better friends. Yes, you could get some better friends, but you could also listen to Triple Click, a weekly podcast about video games hosted by me, Kirk Hamilton, me, Maddy Myers, and me, Jason Schreier.

[Bria Grant]

We talk about new releases, old classics.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Industry news, and whatever, really. We'll show you new things to love about games and maybe even help you find new friends to talk to you about them. Triple click. It's kind of like we're your friends. Find [e-mail] or wherever you get your podcasts. Now it's time to solve a bookish problem from one of our listeners, Tim Wrightson. Hi there. I'm listening to episode 394 right now and the part about reading smutty books in public places got me thinking. I recently took a trip and was on a plane. I had brought some graphic novel to read, but hesitated. I had a saga volume and beneath the trees where nobody sees. Is it okay to read these on a plane where several people are in a clear or forced view? I thought to myself, you make a joke in episode 394 about just not telling people what's on the page, but with a graphic novel, it's right there, clearly visible. I ultimately just went ahead and read the graphic novel, but it did make me wonder about what public opinion is on this matter. And like Bria's co worker, I just had to ask the experts. Thanks and happy public's muddy reading. Bria, what do you think Tim should do here?

[Bria Grant]

I've had this problem also reading smutty or violent graphic novels on a plane. On a plane, specifically because you're sitting right next to a stranger and that's. And they can see.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I finished Priest when I was on the on the way back from my Michigan event and I was like, oh boy.

[Bria Grant]

But I feel like books, like people have to really be looking, but graphic novels, people got to be pe. You can do a glance. You can do a glance. But also people need to be less nosy.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I also agree with that.

[Bria Grant]

I don't think this is on you, okay? If a child is sitting next to you and you're reading an illustrated Kama Sutra, you know what I mean?

[Mallory O'Meara]

Like you're reading the latest issue of Hustler magazine. Maybe don't do it next to a small child.

[Bria Grant]

Use your discretion, because that child may not, like, know not to look over. You know what I mean? Like, they're not going to avert their eyes. But if the child's on, like, their iPad might be okay. You know, just keep it. Keep it away. I don't worry about it too much because I'm like, these nosy people should keep to themselves. And also, maybe they like it. Like, maybe, like, you should enjoy this. This sexy comic.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Free public service. Free public smut.

[Bria Grant]

I' in this good story for them. Later, they'll be like, this person next to me. Maybe they was reading, like, these space aliens having tentacle sex. Like that. That's a good story for them.

[Mallory O'Meara]

You know, maybe you could awaken something in them.

[Bria Grant]

Yeah. They're like, what? They're like, what are you reading?

[Mallory O'Meara]

Oh, my.

[Bria Grant]

That's actually never happened. I think just. I do go kind of quickly through those parts just to, like, be cognizant of the world around me. But. But I think also I don't know what my neighbor on the plane is doing because I don't look over. I'm not interested. Even if they're reading a book. I often like. I just. Let's all, like, keep to ourselves right now.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Yeah. No. The only way planes are even mildly bearable in which they are most of the time not is by. I am not a plane talker. No, no, no, no, no. I do not talk to people on planes. I am in my own bubble, and I appreciate everyone else to be in theirs.

[Bria Grant]

Yeah. Like, keep, keep. I want us all to put on our headphones and read our books and fall asleep.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Oh, if you were a person. Psa. When did we it all be. It become commonplace in public to take phone calls and FaceTimes on speakerphone.

[Bria Grant]

It's. It's. Oh. On public or in planes?

[Mallory O'Meara]

Both.

[Bria Grant]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Once I was sitting on a plane next to a man playing YouTube with no headphones in, and I asked him, do you have headphones? And he looked at me like I had five heads.

[Bria Grant]

The flight attendant. This happened to my plane recently. A flight attendant came by and told somebody. They're like, you need to put on headphones.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Oh, God bless those.

[Bria Grant]

Well, which I think they probably have to do all the time now. But, yeah, you gotta put on headphones. We don't want to hear all distracting.

[Mallory O'Meara]

There's a man. There's. I have a laundromat enemy, and I work Very hard to find a laundromat day where he is not there because he is always on the phone on speakerphone for like a full hour. And I'm always like, can I push him into the washer machine speaker?

[Bria Grant]

You. What is he talking about?

[Mallory O'Meara]

Nothing.

[Bria Grant]

Oh, yeah.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Just nothing. And I mean, if you were on the speakerphone in public, you better be talking to the president, which, I mean, that's not a good. That's not even a good analogy. You better be talking to NASA about aliens landing. Okay. You better not be talking to your mother in law about. About your favorite napkin brands.

[Bria Grant]

Yeah, interesting.

[Mallory O'Meara]

It happens all the time. I see people either on the phone or they're playing Tick Tock videos and no.

[Bria Grant]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Mallory O'Meara]

No headphones.

[Bria Grant]

Yeah. I don't understand. It makes me irate. Although at the same time, I just told someone it was okay to read a smutty comic on a plane. So maybe you're not.

[Mallory O'Meara]

You're not watching porn on a plane with no headphones. People can't hear the slice of a head being chopped off or a boob flapping around.

[Bria Grant]

Oh, what does that sound like?

[Mallory O'Meara]

Have you ever seen Barman Star go to Vista Del Mar? Yeah, it's a real tit flapper. Listen, what is your advice? And we are going off the rails. Yeah.

[Bria Grant]

What's your advice for. For this.

[Mallory O'Meara]

I agree with you one, I think it's your comfort level. Like, if you are. If you are feeling personally very uncomfortable, don't do it. But if you're. You're an unashamed pervert like me, myself, go for it again. You're not forcing anybody to read over your shoulder. If somebody is sitting next to you and they're reading, that's their own things. Again, if you're next to a child and you're reading your book on 72 point font and it says fairy on your. On your E reader and you could see it from a mile away, like an eye T test at the eye doctors. Don't make me. Don't do that. I will say I sometimes when I read smut on planes, if I'm reading it on my Kobo, I will make the font smaller.

[Bria Grant]

Oh, interesting.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Because I use I. My Kobo is Kobo font is comically large. I have told that story about being on a date and the guy rolled up being like, wow, that's big font.

[Bria Grant]

Yeah.

[Mallory O'Meara]

And I was like, I'm gonna fight you huge too. So I will make the font smaller. That. That helps. And like, and you know, like dimming my lights A little bit, but I'm still gonna read that. Like, like, you know, it's not like you have to. You're holding the book above your head. If you have a graphic novel on your lap and people are looking over, that is their problem. Again, it's not okay to bring like a porno onto a plane. And again, if you are next to a small child, that is different. But if you're next to an adult and you're reading a graphic novel and there's a boob or a severed head or maybe both, that's fine. Like, don't listen. Don't look at my shit. Yeah, watch a free movie. Watch the Avengers.

[Bria Grant]

Put your, watch your tiktoks without the speaker, without your headphones.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Jesus. Like, like stay in your lane. Yeah, but again, it's your own comfort level. Don't like put yourself. You don't need to like make a statement about smut and like make yourself uncomfortable by reading it in public. If it really makes you embarrassed, read something else. But if you want to read your smut book and there's people around you, do it. You're not forcing anybody to. I almost said nose drop.

[Bria Grant]

Nose drop.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Being nosy. It's ear eavesdropping. But with your eyes.

[Bria Grant]

Nose drop.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Because you're sticking your nose in someone's business. Your nose dropping.

[Bria Grant]

Yeah. I think in planes people generally keep to themselves though. I think that except for the one person who's playing tick tock videos and or video games on their phone, like most everyone else is like looking at their own.

[Mallory O'Meara]

They're all, we're all miserable because flying.

[Bria Grant]

Is the worst and you kind of keep to yourself. You like. I feel like the person next to me could be like doing all sorts of stuff and I don't know what I'm not paying.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Yeah. They could be dissecting a frog and I would not be paying attention. The only time I look up is when the snack cart goes by and then I'm like, oh, hey, yeah, sparkly water for me.

[Bria Grant]

Oh yeah, I do.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Yes, I would like a seltzer water and pretzels.

[Bria Grant]

Yeah, there you go.

[Mallory O'Meara]

The worst pretzels you could ever imagine. But yeah, driest pretzels, so. Well, that's why you need the water. Cuz it me, it's like one of those sucky things that the dentist is like. Yeah, sucks all the moisture out of her mouth. But yeah, leave people alone, for God's sake. Just let them read what they want to read. But don't make yourself uncomfortable is what is what we're saying. So if you want to solve your reader problem, send it to reading glasses podcast gmail.com foreign answer a recommendation request from Rachel. I just want to do a little content warning. We are going to be talking about cancer briefly, so either skip this section or skip forward like a minute or two while I am reading the request. Okay. My beloved spouse of eight years is facing what may turn out to be a battle with cancer. Things are incredibly stressful and frightening right now. I am looking for book recommendations to help me through this time. Specifically, I want to read books with the idea of goodness at their core. Hope Punk. I guess some examples that spring to mind are of course, my beloved Lord of the Rings and more recently the Monk and Robot series by Becky Chambers. I am open to basically anything in the fiction genre except books with a cancer plot. Thank you. Bria. What do you think? Okay.

[Bria Grant]

I think Mallory and I are going to recommend Mike Chen books.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Mike Chen, the king of Hope punk.

[Bria Grant]

Across the board, Mike Chen has a.

[Mallory O'Meara]

Little crown that just has smiling people on it.

[Bria Grant]

We are both big fans of Mike Chen. There's a ton of books he has that are in the hope punk genre. I'm going to say start with the beginning at the end. I think this is a really good way into hope punk. It's less like adventure as Lord of the Rings, but it is, it does have like an element of adventure. It is a post pandemic book. Sorry. And basically there's a bunch of people together who are trying to sort of rebuild society. And there's a pop star who is creating a new identity to kind of escape her past. And she ends up teaming up with this guy and his daughter. He lost his wife, but it is him and his daughter to survive. It's a bunch of people coming together. Kind of a found family positive book. It has an element of adventure to it. But I think all of Mike Chen's books really fall into this, this one and Here and Now and Then I think also as well. And Light Years from Home. I think they all fall into the category of you can't really go wrong in a nice way. What do you have for Rachel's spouse?

[Mallory O'Meara]

Exit west by Mohsen Hameen. I haven't talked about this book in a while, but God, I loved it. So this is a book that came out right when we. The year we started the show, 2017. And it is magical realism book about a couple. They are living in this Middle Eastern country that is torn apart by civil war. Things are very, very dangerous. And they're falling in love with each other. And suddenly these doors start appearing. And at first they were like, kind of, it's such a good book. And first they're kind of a secret and there's like a whisper network around the doors. And people realize that they can go in the doors and escape to another part of the, of the earth. But what is the cost of going through these doors? You know, like how many people can go through one door? So they're trapped in these sort of distressing and terrifying circumstances, but they are falling in love with each other and they need help and bravery to make decisions to save themselves and to escape from this. And it is, it's short, but it is really beautiful. And it's literally about a couple in this very terrifying situation having hope and getting through it. So I think it's perfect for, perfect for the situation. God, it's just, it's such a great book. So that is Exit west by Mohsina Mead.

[Bria Grant]

Mine is a Beginning at the End by Mike Chen.

[Mallory O'Meara]

If you want us to answer your recommendation request, you can send it to reading glasses podcastmail.com as always, want to thank the wonderful mods who run our Facebook group. And remember, remember folks, there's all kinds of cool bookish in our Void merch store and if you buy that stuff, it goes directly to Bria and I. We feed our cats with it. Our cats who have expensive food. Bria's cats have to get special, specifically Persian food.

[Bria Grant]

That's right, it's called Persian, Persian, Persian, Persian.

[Mallory O'Meara]

But there's so much cool stuff. There's sweatshirts, there's tank tops, there's T shirts, there's stickers, all kinds of cool stuff. Check out the link in the show notes and if you like the show, please rate and review us on the podcast listening app of your choice. Man, it's so nice. I mean, it's so nice to look at them and be like, look at all these people that love the show. But also it really helps us. It helps us spread the show and helps us reach more listeners and turn them into glassers. You can email us at reading glasses podcastmail.com find us on Instagram at Reading Glasses Podcast. Thanks for listening and thanks for reading.

[Bria Grant]

Thanks for reading.

[Mallory O'Meara]

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